The Biggest Fraud in Stem Cell History

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  • Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
  • In 2014, the world of science was shaken by an unprecedented fraud. So, what really happened to shatter the dreams of a Nobel Prize and became a dark chapter for stem cell research? This is the story of STAP cells.
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    Let’s set the scene. It’s the early 2000s. Japan has become a powerhouse in stem cell research. Stem cells are cells that form our bodies during development. Back in the day, stem cells could only be isolated from embryos. In 2006, Yamanaka and Takahashi demonstrated how we can make stem cells from skin cells. Through the introduction of 4 genes (oct4, sox2, klf4, c-myc) they converted skin cells into pluripotent stem cells. For this discovery, Yamanaka later won the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine.
    Haruko Obokata was a japanese scientists who tried to develop another method to make stem cells. She teamed up with Charles Vacanti who theorized that stem cells can be made through stress. When Obokata bathed body cells in mild acid, she claimed to have produced stem cells. She refined this method and STAP cells were born. Later, they approached
    Teruhiko Wakayama and Yoshiki Sasai. Both helped them and in 2013 "STAP Cells" were finally published. In the first weeks, STAP cells seemed like a huge success. But the scientific community soon discovered manipulations in the presented images. RIKEN, the institute where Obokata was hosted launched an internal investigation. They concluded that the STAP cell works have to be retracted and Obokata lost her position. RIKEN had to undergo reconstruction due to the lasting public outcry which ultimately affected everyone involved. Today, STAP cells are considered as one of the biggest scandals in stem cell research.
    00:00-3:35 The Japanese Stem Cell Wonder
    3:35-7:53 Fabricating the Discovery of the Century
    7:53-13:10 How Everyone Found Out
    13:10-15:37 The Devastating Aftermath
    References:
    Brilliant Article:
    www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...
    Other STAP Cell Stories:
    www.science.org/content/artic...
    www.nature.com/articles/natur...
    RIKEN Investigation: www3.riken.jp/stap/e/c13docume...
    www.nature.com/articles/natur...
    www.nature.com/articles/natur...
    link.springer.com/article/10....
    More About Stem Cells:
    www.sciencedirect.com/science...
    link.springer.com/article/10....
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    About Clemens Steinek:
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 629

  • @beowulf2772
    @beowulf2772 Рік тому +6164

    We were forced to manipulate our results in research in highschool because the teacher wouldn't accept that in our research we found no results after the experiments, we wouldn't have a grade. It shows how deep this goes. Our society focuses on success and big headlines instead of experiments that serve to verify if something is true or not.
    OMG 5k likes I did not expect that 😵

    • @sweatergod5386
      @sweatergod5386 Рік тому

      Yeah you fudge data in the lab for a grade lol not for getting paid and getting checked by scientists across the country bruh 😭 😭 😭 why don't u just use chegg and chatgpt to get a Nobel my nihg

    • @aleahlrb
      @aleahlrb Рік тому +239

      I had flashbacks to my old research classes. I immediately checked out of the whole process after we were told the first time we submitted a "no significant difference" outcome project, and we were told we did it wrong because you're supposed to get "something" and made us redo the whole thing. This was the first year of those classes and I started so excited for the whole thing. I immediately lost interest then and there and did the bare minimum to pass the class.

    • @markelder6497
      @markelder6497 Рік тому +30

      ​@ALRB❤ was it a lab? Because maybe they are trying to train you on how to use the equipment properly/ avoid contamination ect. I did science fair for 8 years when I was in grade school. After your experiment and procedure is approved you should just be able to present it and that's that. But im assuming you're talking about science fair... I haven't even started the video yet but I have a feeling this is about greed, not the scientific community. (Hopefully)

    • @aleahlrb
      @aleahlrb Рік тому +54

      @@markelder6497 Pretty sure it was a lab class since I remember our teacher once told a different group that they had to be sure that their chosen topic will yield results since they wouldn't want to go through the whole process of renting a univeristy lab/equipment only to get "nothing results."

    • @submarooo4319
      @submarooo4319 Рік тому +77

      This is far more common in all research than one might think, can be quite political in motive

  • @kdbublitz88
    @kdbublitz88 Рік тому +3041

    This is why scientific rigor and scrutiny is important. We could have wasted decades of time and research if this wasn't caught, just like what happened with alzheimer research..

    • @Dave_of_Mordor
      @Dave_of_Mordor Рік тому

      They manipulated their data because it's the only way they can get the grant to continue their research. This practice is pretty damn common in a capitalist society

    • @sweatergod5386
      @sweatergod5386 Рік тому +117

      tf happen with Alzheimer's?

    • @Wingzero5555
      @Wingzero5555 Рік тому +48

      Context?

    • @NaparoniAndZzs
      @NaparoniAndZzs Рік тому +147

      Seriously don’t leave us hanging

    • @_Chessa_
      @_Chessa_ Рік тому

      I’d love to know what you mean by Alzheimer’s research. Thanks for educating my curiosity lol
      Updating: it’s easy to search on google actually and now I know a little bit about Amyloids and the shifty research practice we have had since the early 2000’s of plagues of the brain. And how so much funding has gone into it with with little results and in fact has even been found that many photos they used to justify their research into the brain plagues were fabricated.
      Interesting stuff. I didn’t get it all in here because it’s easy to type into the search bar and just read.

  • @Rice0Cake
    @Rice0Cake Рік тому +841

    I work in regenerative research. While I remember the shock of learning about this fraud, the whole thing was caught fairly quickly and not a lot of scientists in the field believed the original publication in the first place. Scientific fraud like this ultimately damages the image, progress, and legitimacy of the field; but the biggest thing for me and for everyone really was Sasai's death. While going through grad school I read many great papers published by him and had profound respect for the scientists at Riken. This was a tragic loss of life and an unnecessary loss of great human potential.

    • @8koi245
      @8koi245 Рік тому +37

      japanese backlash is no joke..

    • @allisonavery7273
      @allisonavery7273 Рік тому +53

      It doesn’t even sound like he was in the wrong. He was just a mentor, trying to help and push research further I don’t believe based on this video that he was actively engaged in defrauding people.

    • @ahmedhussain5515
      @ahmedhussain5515 Рік тому +1

      hey, i just finished my alvls with the subjects Maths, Chemistry, Physic and Biology. I'm taking a gap year to figure out what i like and what i want to do. Could i please get your email so i can ask you more about your field! Please

    • @louzo5175
      @louzo5175 Рік тому +1

      ​@@allisonavery7273 true :[

    • @sirrenn1936
      @sirrenn1936 Рік тому +6

      @@ahmedhussain5515 Seriously, don't ask for emails

  • @oxylepy2
    @oxylepy2 Рік тому +1620

    This stuff always gets me. I understand the cutting edge, strong reputation, difficult to try to replicate lies in science, people can manage to get away with it for years. But... people are going to try to replicate your work, that's part of the whole process. If people can get to your level, they'll try to replicate it, then when they can't you're going to be called in on ethics

    • @infiniteloopcounter9444
      @infiniteloopcounter9444 Рік тому +63

      Probably the same reason Lance Armstrong did drugs to win, etc. The buzz and feeling of fame in some people may override common sense thinking about the future.

    • @GregConquest
      @GregConquest Рік тому +74

      I *think* Ms. Obokata may have taken a shortcut or two that she didn't think was consequential early on in the process, and then she found herself on a slippery slope. Unable to admit she had misbehaved earlier, she just wove a larger and larger web of lies to cover for earlier missteps.
      At least that is the most innocuous explanation.

    • @vangcruz4442
      @vangcruz4442 Рік тому +5

      Imagine this is also required for Chips Technology.....other countries must be able to replicate...😂😂😂

    • @rkv88kanyan39
      @rkv88kanyan39 Рік тому +3

      Dr. Ort-Meyer already accomplished this and more many years ago

    • @Dave_of_Mordor
      @Dave_of_Mordor Рік тому +27

      @@infiniteloopcounter9444 I think it has more to do with scientists trying to get grant money to continue their research. They have to manipulate their data to show positive results otherwise they won't get the money. Isn't science about progressing from failures? You can't treat science like a business and expect things to go smoothly.

  • @ginnyjollykidd
    @ginnyjollykidd Рік тому +230

    Science is not business. In business one can expect fruitful outcomes. In scientific research, fruitful results are often not possible. Sometimes, research produces null results that eliminate inaccurate hypotheses.
    These results are as important as positive results, but they are often dismissed as not scientifically or publicly worthy.
    But we should praise them for what they are: null results.
    _The_ famous null result changed scientific understanding and is studied by every science student (or if it isn't, it should be): the Michelson-Morley result, that velocity of light does not change from the coming and going of the Earth around the sun.

    • @sonarbangla8711
      @sonarbangla8711 Рік тому +15

      Einstein's GR was a confirmation of a fruitful null result. Similar confirmation is necessary for stem/stap cells.

    • @UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana
      @UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana Рік тому +2

      Everyone should just obsessively publicise everything. Not in a journal, but still.

    • @morejoy5188
      @morejoy5188 Рік тому

      Another of the problem are invalid and inhumane animal mutilation /'research '

    • @Flash020201
      @Flash020201 Рік тому +16

      @@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana Only if it is accurate, truthful, and justifiable. Incorrect null results are just as dangerous as incorrect positive results

    • @UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana
      @UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana Рік тому

      @@Flash020201 Only if you believe them.

  • @patternwhisperer4048
    @patternwhisperer4048 11 місяців тому +56

    Imagine we held politicians or even economic leaders half as accountable for misconduct as we do with scientists

  • @do3807
    @do3807 Рік тому +94

    4:25 "They heckled him"
    Bro imagine getting roasted by PhD holders, while you're presenting your ideas and dreams 😭😭

    • @thevillainousqueenofhearts4976
      @thevillainousqueenofhearts4976 Рік тому +8

      I would probably feel hurt and might even want to cry

    • @OGAngie
      @OGAngie Рік тому +36

      Sure, but also imagine walking into a room of scientists and presenting utter nonsense and being too delusional to stop and admit that smacking cells or putting them in acid wouldn't magically make them do the same thing as an extremely complicated biological process...

    • @GabrielleduVent
      @GabrielleduVent Рік тому +22

      That's basically every academic conference ever. You either develop a thick skin in this industry or you leave.

    • @myme8208
      @myme8208 Рік тому +19

      That's normal. Because scientists would always question delusion from reality and ground you. It's not bad. It pushes you to do better and prove you actually can do it but it takes alot of years and studying.

    • @justcommenting4981
      @justcommenting4981 Рік тому +1

      ​@@OGAngie I can imagine why he might have thought that based on healing after injury. It seems like you could dispose of that idea pretty quickly though. Also certainly wouldn't use mouse cells to start.

  • @artemisia457
    @artemisia457 Рік тому +178

    In my masters theorem my professors guided me in entirely different direction than my research was pointing. My teachers at school hated it when i questioned some of the things we learned even though i presented proof. We werent allowed to criticize books we had to read. This is a problem of entire system that we're supposed to manipulate our findings and opinions to fit one theory or another

    • @essennagerry
      @essennagerry 11 місяців тому +11

      I got a lower grade even for disagreeing on what we were taught about Hamlet in an interpretative essay even though I demonstrated that I knew and understood what we were taught and had layed my arguments for the statements I was making in my essay. It was the only time I did that because we were always given titles for our essays and this was the only time the title technically allowed it. Honestly maybe it's an overall societal thing and not just a problem in education. I think people raise their kids this way too. I got treated like I was doing things "the wrong way" a lot from adults and peers alike and it really wasn't the wrong way, there was no right or wrong way for those things.

    • @lifeline_
      @lifeline_ 11 місяців тому +3

      I work in IT, a bit different, but this is a field you usually would associate with communication skills.
      The problem is that you either work in the field and get paid well because you are a top programmer or because you made strong connections through strong communication skills.
      This is similar to how I see other STEM fields.

  • @hautakleightontam771
    @hautakleightontam771 9 місяців тому +24

    From the Wikipedia article on Obokata:
    *In a note to Vacanti, Sasai wrote that Obokata had discovered "a magic spell" that led to their experimental success, described later in The Guardian as "a surprisingly simple way of turning ordinary body cells…into something very much like embryonic stem cells" by soaking them in "a weak bath of citric acid."*
    The moment you hear words like 'magic' and 'miraculous' in science, start sniffing! If magic is the product of mystery, a replicable process cannot stay mysterious nor magical.

  • @spacecate
    @spacecate Рік тому +452

    I watched this unfold in real time when I was in Japan! I was a middleschooler back then, I didn't understood fully what was going down, but this was all over the news and my science teacher talked about this in class. It's nice to see a video breaking down things coherently like this!

  • @TVtheTV
    @TVtheTV Рік тому +115

    I’m a biology student and if stress induced a change into pluripotent stem cells then we would see them in the sites of injury. If acid exposure does it, then we would see pluripotent stem cells in people with chronic stomach injuries and cancers. At least, that’s my guess. Either way, acid turning cells back into pluripotent stem cells is just a weird hypothesis to begin with.

    • @janycebrown4071
      @janycebrown4071 Рік тому +6

      I'm not a biology student, and I know that acid would destroy any cell😂

    • @TVtheTV
      @TVtheTV Рік тому +23

      @@janycebrown4071 stomach acid bro…

    • @kumokundomo9705
      @kumokundomo9705 11 місяців тому +1

      That’s not how it works 😅

    • @markozivic5959
      @markozivic5959 9 місяців тому

      Then what is the cause of chronic diseases, parasite, virus, heavy metals?

    • @LEARNING-67
      @LEARNING-67 7 місяців тому +3

      (BIO)ELECTRICITY, has been known for inducing healing in injuries! They shouldve focused more on the bioelectricity part rather than just solely on chemistry!

  • @haleyw5677
    @haleyw5677 Рік тому +36

    academia is so results focused that a lot of young talented scientists feel more pressure to get specific results than to figure out the truth. science takes both skill and luck, and we need to be doing more to recognize skill in emerging scientists regardless of their luck

  • @lifeline_
    @lifeline_ 11 місяців тому +13

    I work in IT, and Ive found this:
    You either stick in the field and get paid well from being a top programmer/architech/etc or you have really strong communication skills, are average at programming (at best), and made good connections.
    Communication skills are important, but they can also lead to someone in a position that they don't have the skills to be in.
    This is how I expect a lot of STEM fields work.

  • @jasperism27
    @jasperism27 Рік тому +464

    Calling it the biggest stem cell fraud is a bit too much - the South Korean incident involved big US government funding (bypassing Bush's restrictions), became a household national icon, and had involvement with officials in the highest echelons of South Korea's government.

  • @burntgyoza
    @burntgyoza Рік тому +151

    I'm so thankful for my teacher. She told the students to make a presentation about something she choose. I decided to make a dramatic presentation about why I hate to talk about that topic. She gave me straight A. I didnt have to pretend that I like the topic or doing useless research to impress anyone. I hope many teachers are like that. Sometimes it's not about the result.

    • @NickolaiPetrovitch
      @NickolaiPetrovitch Рік тому +5

      What kind of science teacher would ever give a good grade to a student for not actually writing a scientific paper. What an awful teacher.

    • @marianojunioralcondoregosa9067
      @marianojunioralcondoregosa9067 Рік тому +32

      ​@@NickolaiPetrovitch its a presentation though, not a scientific paper assignment

    • @NickolaiPetrovitch
      @NickolaiPetrovitch Рік тому +7

      @@marianojunioralcondoregosa9067 what kind of science teacher would let a kid say “I don’t want to do this,” and just… say “okay.” That’s legit one of the most asinine things I’ve ever heard. Why would you reward that Behaviour. “I don’t want to do this because I don’t like this subject in school.” “No problem!” what kind of school is this

    • @burntgyoza
      @burntgyoza Рік тому +38

      @@NickolaiPetrovitch Not about rewarding a "i dont wanna do this" behaviour. Its about how I manage to explain logically why I think it was unecessary for me to do that. And it's about a teacher who also willing to learn from the student that not every assignment is "up to date" to the next generation.
      Just because I say "dramatic" doesnt mean I didnt explain it logically or only speaking gibberish and screaming nonsense.

    • @Problemsolver434
      @Problemsolver434 Рік тому +18

      ​​@@NickolaiPetrovitchrom the story, she asked for a presentation, the student gave one. It didn't have to be positive, just well thought out. I think that is something that should be rewarded .
      That is, if the story is true

  • @victorkmlee
    @victorkmlee Рік тому +274

    A good research is a well conceived, prepared, constructed and run research that produce accurate consistent results, which can be negative or positive. Too much emphasis on publication and grants are based on 'positive results'. The temptation to commit fraud is strong because the stakes (losing grants, promotion and tenure) are just too high. There is also a temptation to push for many publications.

  • @JeanPaulBeaubier
    @JeanPaulBeaubier Рік тому +33

    Even as a layperson I can't comprehend how stressing a cell by bathing it in acid would ever turn it into a stem cell rather than just killing it.

  • @XX-bn9sf
    @XX-bn9sf Рік тому +52

    How did they think they would get away with that? It must have been clear to them that it was only a matter of time till the truth would come out.

  • @fareastmanside5f4in
    @fareastmanside5f4in Рік тому +42

    If Obokata fabricated papers why did she blame the other researcher? Its a good example of how assumptions lead to catastrophic failure.

  • @newguy954
    @newguy954 Рік тому +91

    Its rather strange that a lot of medical research fraud seemed to be coming out of Japan then again saw a video on such cases already.

    • @hyperion8382
      @hyperion8382 Рік тому +1

      What's the video title?

    • @ryanwillingham
      @ryanwillingham Рік тому +52

      if you're talking about the bobbybroccoli video, that's south korea. very different

    • @newguy954
      @newguy954 Рік тому +1

      @@ryanwillingham take a look👆

    • @boaaintnowayboa3002
      @boaaintnowayboa3002 Рік тому +7

      it’s coming from everywhere unfortunately, a global race for recognition in scientific breakthroughs

  • @benmcreynolds8581
    @benmcreynolds8581 Рік тому +14

    When u see a company gets to review itself. It reminds me when a 5 yr old is lying, and they get a chance to "analyze" if they are lying? And then the 5 yr old proves they aren't lying 🤥🤡👍🏻😄

  • @cronostvg
    @cronostvg Рік тому +11

    We in general do not view failure as necessary step for success. Likely because customer only pay for success.

  • @ch.4904
    @ch.4904 Рік тому +45

    This story is kinda like a meme in Japan. I never heard anyone else talk about it so thanks for bringing this up!

  • @souvikmitra4357
    @souvikmitra4357 Рік тому +16

    Once our ELISA results were shown negative despite the sample being positive, but our professor told us to interpret what actually happened and we just predicted the possible troubleshooting that lead to the false negative results.

  • @estusshart6470
    @estusshart6470 Рік тому +10

    It's cool that youtube recommended me this, one of my favorite youtubers uploaded a two part series about a stem cell cloning fraud, except this one was in korea. Feels like a cool way to complete the series!!

  • @indian_doc
    @indian_doc Рік тому +62

    This got recommended right after watching BobbyBroccoli's new video on the South Korean stem cell research fraud. It ended where this video begins - 4 genes inserted making any cell pleuripotent. Felt like a good continuation of the story 😅

    • @jamesc5751
      @jamesc5751 Рік тому +4

      Except this one discusses inducing pluripotency through changes in environmental acidity, this is entirely different from genetic modification.

    • @jaydenwilson9522
      @jaydenwilson9522 Рік тому

      should look at abiogenesis.... they love making big sensational claims but offer little in the form of true evidence that life can originate from unconscious particles lol

  • @Molist
    @Molist Рік тому +33

    I've just discovered your channel today, thanks so much for your videos :) I did my PhD in biochemistry and I can absolutely relate to the extreme anxiety related to results, etc.- not justifying what they did, though, but I am not surprised. Especially in societies as competitive as Japan and the US.

  • @militantpacifist4087
    @militantpacifist4087 Рік тому +10

    “Never let yourself be diverted, either by what you wish to believe, or what you think could have beneficent social effects if it were believed; but look only and solely at what are the facts.”- Bertrand Russell

  • @tnijoo5109
    @tnijoo5109 Рік тому +175

    Wow!! How crazy. Makes you wonder how much scientific data is manipulated. Excellent video! Thoroughly enjoyed how well told the story was.

    • @catmoore2443
      @catmoore2443 Рік тому +51

      Way more than you can imagine . "Money" writes peer review papers and scientific articles .

    • @Itried20takennames
      @Itried20takennames Рік тому

      I don’t think it is super common, as science likes “reproducibility” and will fairly quickly ask to see others get the same results if following the same technique….so especially today, a big chance of being caught.
      But many cases before, from “Piltdown man” being a clear forgery, to one of the first transplant “breakthroughs” (in fighting rejection) turning out to be faked…with the “transplanted” patches of dark fur on white mice just being ….from a brown magic marker.

    • @hectornonayurbusiness2631
      @hectornonayurbusiness2631 Рік тому +6

      Probably a lot.

    • @Jinkypigs
      @Jinkypigs Рік тому +25

      Dude the video itself tells you a bit about the requirements for peer review in any scientific publication. Unless your's is an obscure field of research that no one else look into ... it is very unlikely that any mistake will go unnoticed, not to mention total scam

    • @tnijoo5109
      @tnijoo5109 Рік тому +9

      @@Jinkypigs are you talking to me? Dude? LOL. In the field of psychology there was a major issue about ten years ago maybe with failures to replicate findings. And of course, we’ve all heard about stories of academics basing their entire theses on research that was later found to be falsified.
      I’m sorry, but I’m not sure what you’re attempting to say. I think it’s well established that data is sometimes manipulated. There’s been plenty of stories similar to this one. What really struck me about this one, though, is that she faked such a huge discovery that she had to assume everyone would try to replicate. That’s the part that stunned me and made me wonder how much data has been manipulated, the type of findings other scientists wouldn’t bother replicating. I’m not sure what point you’re making about the peer review process, either. A study can be peer reviewed without anyone scrutinizing if any aspect of it has been tampered with, falsified, or otherwise manipulated. If you cloud, please clarify what it is you’re saying about the peer review process.
      Could you try to be more clear about what points you’re trying to make overall? It almost sounds like you’re saying that any “mistakes” would be quickly found and that no one would get away falsifying their findings. That’s not what you’re saying, is it?

  • @fluffypuff766
    @fluffypuff766 Рік тому +6

    Weird how in the same year, there was a 'breakthrough' for Alzheimer's research, and that one lasted over a decade.

  • @kumokundomo9705
    @kumokundomo9705 11 місяців тому +10

    Obokata allegedly copied most of her 2011 dissertation from a U.S. National Institutes of Health website on stem cells😅. Someone who is able to easily plagiarize might not care about integrity. It impacts not only herself but those around her and the university/country/ future patients that could benefit from the research 😢

  • @thedaredevilincognito9581
    @thedaredevilincognito9581 Рік тому +11

    I think the big question to be asked is how the hell did the paper passed the review hence it being published?

    • @terriplays1726
      @terriplays1726 Рік тому +3

      Paper reviewers never check against wilful deceit. If they did they would have to reproduce the entire work. They complain if you arrive at conclusions that your experiments did not show, or request certain complimentary experiments to verify claims, but they never assume experimental data might be faked or samples mislabelled.
      If someone in the team secretly swapped the sample, then a paper might well be accepted. You performed a valid verification of your claims after all.

  • @cris1735
    @cris1735 Рік тому +5

    Nobody gets forced to leave in academia unless they were caught doing something inappropriate. I've had multiple professors that have never contributed to the body of knowledge and they're still around collecting a sizeable paycheck while proudly displaying their titles and designations.

  • @giselletdc1871
    @giselletdc1871 Рік тому +6

    My friend's dog died recently, she paid so much money on this stem cell therapy for nothing! It's really sad!

    • @Hate_wagon
      @Hate_wagon 11 місяців тому +1

      What?…stem cell therapy on dogs?.. really?

  • @maryannwilliams8506
    @maryannwilliams8506 Рік тому +197

    This makes me feel terribly sad for those like one of my Son-in-laws who need stem cells to help regain normal sight. I remember hearing about how they could take cells from your own body, create stem-cells from it than inject it into a diseased or failing organ and it would start producing healthy cells and that organ would become like new. All the wishful thinking, hopes & dreams cannot make a truth from a lie. The lie is a dead end with no where to go. A truth has unlimited possibilities and bring hope into the failing hearts of those who are getting tired enough to give up. Hope is eternal because the Spirit within each of us is who we truly are and is eternal. Whether in this world or the world to come, hope gives us life eternal and brings us all back to our begining. It is the end of sadness and the continuation of Love, Light & Truth Eternal where Time & Space become one & the same!!! Hope to see you there!!😇

  • @Fr3d0mC0nsum3d
    @Fr3d0mC0nsum3d Рік тому +160

    This is why I absolutely hate when people say “the science is settled” or “don’t question the science”. It was a huge thing over the COVID pandemic. Even some pubs in huge journals can have fabricated data. Always question science, and the best data will survive the questioning.

    • @danielh.8602
      @danielh.8602 Рік тому +1

      To an extent, the thing is, the argument you're espousing is often used by people who know nothing about science who try to question it with baseless claims and hypothetical scenarios ("what if everything is fabricated!!!???!!!") instead of legitimate questions. So yes, for the average person questioning science is going to be a fruitless endeavor and can even be damaging, it can be like giving a blind person a shotgun. That's why the REAL questioning is done by other scientists in the same field, like in this video.

    • @souvikmitra6161
      @souvikmitra6161 Рік тому +34

      It's so stupid to say "don't question the science" when, in the first place, we have advanced this far by the scientists over the centuries... questioning science!

    • @raulthepig5821
      @raulthepig5821 Рік тому +2

      Don't look up.

    • @-TheUnkownUser
      @-TheUnkownUser 11 місяців тому +15

      The problem with that is that it leaves the door open to bad criticism. And no, what I say can’t be refuted by saying that the bad criticism is rare or non-important…

    • @MlewIs-qr5ot
      @MlewIs-qr5ot 11 місяців тому +2

      "I AM the Science"----Anthony Fauci

  • @Eirexeyes
    @Eirexeyes Рік тому +12

    I remember a good few years ago now, that a French group had a press conference that they had the first cloned human. Nothing was heard of them since.. I wonder what became of this 🤔

    • @stormer9952
      @stormer9952 11 місяців тому

      Most likely false, I believe the UN or one of those organizations have outlawed human cloning, seeing it as against the laws of nature. Though a sheep was cloned in Scotland named Dolly.

  • @h.yadigarece1446
    @h.yadigarece1446 Рік тому +6

    I advice to check on the biggest fraud in chemistry that occured at Columbia University.... The person is from my major and country, as a scientist in chemistry I feel shamed already...But this shows how much is easy to create fradualent results....😢

  • @Gatinois
    @Gatinois 8 місяців тому +2

    That ending with the funny and happy music was so brutal.

  • @jai_nasu
    @jai_nasu Рік тому +20

    Just one thing, the institute - RIKEN - is pronounced "Ree-ken" as it is a short form for "Rikagaku Kenkyujo(理化学研究所)". Great video, enjoyed very much!

  • @benmcreynolds8581
    @benmcreynolds8581 Рік тому +64

    I find stem cell science as some of the most facinating cutting edge science in all of humanity. If we can advance this field of science, who knows what might be possible to us in the future? (Have scientists researched how octopus handle physical trauma? Since they have shown to grow back fully usable tentacles after they have been bitten off? Their Tentacles are such complex structures. If we could figure out how they go about that process, then maybe we could figure out even a slight possibility of how to fix Normal human injuries? Idk? Just a thought 💭

    • @tedchapple5991
      @tedchapple5991 Рік тому

      Google Dr. Michael Levin.

    • @Moncrom
      @Moncrom 11 місяців тому +4

      Issue with is that the bodies and genetics are so extremely different that you cann't just include octupus genes into a human and it's done.

    • @stormer9952
      @stormer9952 11 місяців тому +1

      It's much more complicated than that to make a long story short. Human DNA isn't comparable to most animals DNA except primates and mice (If I'm remembering correctly).
      Stem cells can be used to regrow tissue like organs and limbs for example, in artificial environments.

  • @Find-the-Devil
    @Find-the-Devil Рік тому +83

    Great story on stem cell technology! Can I share a link to my own video about stem cell therapy and tourism in the comment section once it's uploaded this week? I really want to spread awareness about the problem around stem cell tourism.

    • @Sciencerely
      @Sciencerely  Рік тому +29

      Sure, no worries! Links are automatically blocked by YT but I'll try to manually allow your comment!

    • @Find-the-Devil
      @Find-the-Devil Рік тому +10

      @@Sciencerely That would be Awesome. Thank you.

    • @celestialstar124
      @celestialstar124 Рік тому +7

      Not sure if you can share the link on comments because yt doesn't allow url. But after this comment and this video i will check your profile and page to see if i can find any video about stem cell

    • @Find-the-Devil
      @Find-the-Devil Рік тому +4

      @@celestialstar124 I will upload the video in 2 or 3 days in my channel.

    • @celestialstar124
      @celestialstar124 Рік тому +3

      @@Find-the-Devil really appreciate that 😊

  • @Idontgothatway
    @Idontgothatway Рік тому +153

    As a research scientist myself, these stories are unbelievable and disgusting. How dare they.

    • @alexanderthegreatoz5945
      @alexanderthegreatoz5945 Рік тому +7

      _belieb all wahmen_

    • @marcomalo02
      @marcomalo02 Рік тому +13

      Elizabeth Holmes could make it happen?

    • @malakatan3235
      @malakatan3235 Рік тому +2

      it is often 🙄

    • @aoikishi99
      @aoikishi99 Рік тому +1

      its common isnt, epsc ure result driven in research. Only very few got breakthrought in their papers. Also not many get the funds unless ure making something. I thought as someone who is a research scientist themself would understand the whole situation.

    • @Yewtewba
      @Yewtewba 11 місяців тому

      ​@@alexanderthegreatoz5945"translate to English" on your comment gives "feel free to watch"

  • @PersimmonHurmo
    @PersimmonHurmo Рік тому +8

    The reward system in society is wired the wrong way around.

    • @Wokskdiskjss
      @Wokskdiskjss Рік тому +1

      :OO lain?

    • @snowimayko659
      @snowimayko659 11 місяців тому

      I can imagine they are just taken advantage of or gained in the wrong wayc but still wired right

  • @Thebloggermustdie
    @Thebloggermustdie Рік тому +43

    Loved this video, wish there were more about fraudulent scientific discoveries

    • @soul1d
      @soul1d 11 місяців тому +1

      there are probably countless ones, but they are being covered up for money. Lots of nutritional studies with cooked books.

    • @grahamstrouse1165
      @grahamstrouse1165 9 місяців тому

      He does a series on them.

  • @mikescarlet4261
    @mikescarlet4261 Рік тому +5

    RIP Mr Sasai. He believed the wrong people

  • @KeithCooper-Albuquerque
    @KeithCooper-Albuquerque Рік тому +1

    Great video! Thanks for all you do!

  • @thefoundationagent61
    @thefoundationagent61 Рік тому +8

    Like I always say, sensationalism is the most poisonous substance to mix with science. It's a complete embarassment to the practice, which should be the pure pursuit of knowledge.

  • @Vault1337
    @Vault1337 Рік тому +2

    "But what if you don't get your big breakthough?" 15:07
    That's why I chose the engineering path. It's possible that you are just unlucky and never make a great discovery. That's depressing AF.

  • @stevemartin4249
    @stevemartin4249 5 місяців тому

    Applied linguist and former undergrad bio lab director here (Temple University Japan).
    Good, summary and timely.
    A year or two ago, I read Robert Friedman's "The Politics of Excellence: Behind the Nobel Prize in Science", and just bought the book "The Death of Science", by Doddard and Galgleish.
    Minor point, the company "Rikin"s name with the "i" as in "hit".

  • @o0Hidden0o
    @o0Hidden0o Рік тому +6

    I gonna be honest, there is little surprise here, I’ve 100% penciled in completely fabricated results for a grade. Put money on the line and it’s a wrap. The difference is whether or not you’re willing to bet some else’s life on lies. For some the money is worth it the gamble.

  • @EmperorShang
    @EmperorShang 11 місяців тому +3

    We need more scrutiny to find deep issues like this to make holistic solutions that address the symptoms and root cause

  • @Trihalo42
    @Trihalo42 Рік тому +10

    Read "The Body Electric" by Robert Becker MD and Gary Selden. Starts off with research on why some amphibians and reptiles can regenerate lost limbs, not just a tail but a full limb, touches on old Soviet research showing that when a plant is clipped there is a change in electric charge at the point where it starts growing back, further research showed a change in the electric charge on stumps of newts capable of regeneration, different manipulations including surgically rerouting a nerve that caused the new limb to grow in the wrong place showing that the nerves were the source of the electric charge leading to limb regeneration, and talks about cells reverting to a simpler state that then develop into more specialized cells being triggered by electric charge. And THAT is where the Japanese research went sideways. It wasn't the acid itself. It was a tiny electric charge formed from the reactions with the acid. Chemistry is all about the movement of electrons, and unsurprisingly to me, so is medicine. Problem is, the Big Pharma owned medical establishment doesn't want to acknowledge this legitimate repeatable scientific research on electric charge because it would cut deeply into profits.

  • @palyddon
    @palyddon 7 місяців тому

    Excellent explanation of the controversies without being overly technical. BTW, I love the Rubik’s cubes in the background: Just goes to show that the 4x4x4 is worlds harder than the original!

  • @advchtube8208
    @advchtube8208 Рік тому +9

    What about South Korea's Hwang Woo Sook?

  • @NicolasMiari
    @NicolasMiari 11 місяців тому +2

    "Obokata, what are you doing...? Obokata... STAP!"

  • @lindyloohoo
    @lindyloohoo Рік тому +5

    If i remember correctly, you can grow stem cells but it is a long, hard process with a massive failure rate. I effing love biology, especially micro. I cant remember completely how the process goes tho

  • @williambrasky3891
    @williambrasky3891 Рік тому +19

    Came here b/c I was pissed somebody ripped off BobbiBroccoli’s most recent video. Left a new subscriber with a whole new respect for science’s knack for rooting out frauds.

    • @pyxylation
      @pyxylation Рік тому +1

      Good to know this is different than his video

  • @hodolski
    @hodolski Рік тому +9

    Obokata was nothing more than a character, like Elizabeth Holmes in the Theranos scandal. While Holmes was a Steve Jobs copycat but more toxic, Obokata claimed herself to be a passionate female scientist, but her appearance in the media was well... nothing scientific and terrible. She, at least her marketing scheme was all about Japan's traditional ideal for obedient woman, a cute anime mascot for the government-funded research.
    Who in the right mind wears a kitchen apron in the facility? Do we need the "good wife, wise mother" imagery in science?

  • @whiskeyjackedup
    @whiskeyjackedup 11 місяців тому +3

    This is a cool story but I don’t think you can remotely call it the biggest fraud in stem cell history, Hwang Woo-suk will forever hold that title.

  • @mrunderhill3970
    @mrunderhill3970 Рік тому +4

    2 problems off the bat - nobel and harvard

  • @marcelo55869
    @marcelo55869 Рік тому +19

    Please do a video on cell eletricity via ion pumps. There is a paper on regeneration based on it from Michael Levin . I wish to know if it is true or not.

    • @anthonyjh02
      @anthonyjh02 Рік тому

      If you’re planning to power leds the size of atoms it looks promising

    • @marcelo55869
      @marcelo55869 Рік тому +4

      @@anthonyjh02 No, the paper is about bioelectricity and it's use by the cells as a kind of "communication protocol" using ions pumps of the cells.
      This was the guy that regenerated a frog's leg some time ago. Frogs don't usually regenerate, but he was able to trigger the regeneration using some drugs that induced electric potentials following certain patterns recognized by the cells. It was like a message about what part of the body they were and what to do.
      It seems very interesting but still did not explode enough in the news...

    • @Find-the-Devil
      @Find-the-Devil Рік тому +1

      @@marcelo55869 Hey. I would like to make a video about this topic
      Just send me the link of this article.

    • @marcelo55869
      @marcelo55869 Рік тому

      @@Find-the-Devil there is an introduction here: ua-cam.com/video/XheAMrS8Q1c/v-deo.html

    • @marcelo55869
      @marcelo55869 Рік тому

      Another one with more details : ua-cam.com/video/AC2_S-wcJes/v-deo.html

  • @Frank-bg7yd
    @Frank-bg7yd 3 місяці тому +1

    Excellent scientists are the ones who are honest. Extraordinary scientists are the ones who are honest and making important discoveries.

  • @IHateThisApp626
    @IHateThisApp626 Рік тому +2

    Btw what are those first two songs called? Approximately playing at 0:02 and 0:31 respectively?

  • @mattpet7913
    @mattpet7913 Рік тому

    awesome content!

  • @stefunnylim
    @stefunnylim Рік тому +3

    I wonder what happened to Vacanti, was he also fired from Harvard?

  • @reicarlos975
    @reicarlos975 Рік тому +11

    i manipulated my research paper too in order to be graduated 😂

  • @lesliestandifer
    @lesliestandifer 11 місяців тому

    its amazing the issues humans have with admitting they were wrong and just moving on from it.

  • @yriEth
    @yriEth Рік тому +1

    At 0:44, why is 'loss' censored in the captions??

  • @jeromebarry1741
    @jeromebarry1741 Рік тому +5

    I first learned of pluripotent stem cells from John Mauldin. LifeLine had skin cream product claimed to be made of pluripotent stem cells.

  • @sanghyunhwang1297
    @sanghyunhwang1297 Рік тому +3

    This is exactly happened with Lesne’s amyloid beta

  • @deprivalli
    @deprivalli Рік тому +1

    well-timed recommendation right after i watched a video about the south korea stem cell scandal, thank you haha

  • @hyperactivists9390
    @hyperactivists9390 Рік тому

    Great story thanks

  • @heliocentric2223
    @heliocentric2223 Рік тому +1

    How did the last person in charge of injecting stap cells into the mouse embryo not know?

  • @panostriantaphillou766
    @panostriantaphillou766 Рік тому +2

    The Earmouse is NOT the Onco mouse.
    The earmouse photo was published in the media because there was no interesting picture for the oncomouse and therefore the two were conflated.
    It is best to disentangle them for scientific clarity and channel credibility.

  • @eirikraude854
    @eirikraude854 8 місяців тому

    Fantastic! :)
    Will you also make a similar video disclosing the "hockey stick" fraud by Michael Mann? That would be even more fantastic! :)

  • @chrislaezur730
    @chrislaezur730 11 місяців тому +2

    I know about this, actually. This woman…has run from her responsibility and in effect shamed the many, many people she shared her field with, not to mention the intelligent gentleman that took his own life after being viciously criticized due to her actions. I am curious to know if there is anything redeeming about her. I will return to see if there is any such data later.

  • @marjhuncantago9476
    @marjhuncantago9476 Рік тому +4

    they should use different acid.
    like acidic yet poisonous?

  • @cobar5342
    @cobar5342 8 місяців тому

    Well done. Thank you

  • @madprophetus
    @madprophetus 7 місяців тому

    It's never the wrong time for skepticism.

  • @PepperPersonal
    @PepperPersonal Рік тому

    Oh I remember randomly hearing about this back then.

  • @Gandalf47
    @Gandalf47 Рік тому +4

    Sounds like the Theranos of stem cell research.

  • @user-zf4uz3hy8z
    @user-zf4uz3hy8z 2 місяці тому

    Finally, the videos that will demonstrate us all that medical science is not what you think at all!

  • @nothereforit.605
    @nothereforit.605 Рік тому +1

    Wait, so that fat with the ear was fake? I’m confused.

  • @dr0g_Oakblood
    @dr0g_Oakblood 11 місяців тому

    5:46 - well that sets off a number of alarms for me, since I know from my classes that a lot of the stuff involving human tissues and fluids tends to be closer to acidic over neutrality or basic in terms of pH. (There's actually some interplay here from certain infections that prefer basic environments, which during the course of their infection increase the pH of the infected area, and typical basic soaps are less effective on them than say, a mild acid bath from dilute pharmacy-grade ~3% Hydrogen Peroxide)
    Edit: I completely forgot my end point: that being that if cells really did flip back to being stem cells purely from a mild acid, a number of cells would cease to function in normal human tissue conditions by virtue of flipping to stem* cells, which is clearly not happening......

  • @kokujin5446
    @kokujin5446 Рік тому +1

    Song at the start of video????

  • @KaiseruSoze
    @KaiseruSoze Рік тому +1

    So how do you motivate a diploid stem cell to divide into haploid cells then into a zygote and prove the identity of a stap = stem cell. I.e., grow a stem/stap cell into a fully functional animal.

  • @stevenbrenner2862
    @stevenbrenner2862 Рік тому +2

    Unfortunately, sometimes scientists convince themselves of something in error.

  • @joepeake8972
    @joepeake8972 7 місяців тому

    This is the natural consequence of science being a business where your career is determined by producing positive results, regardless of whether they're fake. Nobody gets a research grant by disproving something

  • @magdalenazawada8191
    @magdalenazawada8191 Рік тому

    I suggest to take a look at Chal et al 2016 protocol to develop muscle tissue in vitro. I am interested whether we were not skilled enough to write down the steps based on this publication & then develop the muscle tissue, or there is something wrong in here too...?

  • @johnmichaelrichards
    @johnmichaelrichards Рік тому

    Clemens, I spotted the Coat of Arms of Imperial College London behind you. I was at Christ's College Cambridge in the 80s.

  • @krakoosh1
    @krakoosh1 Рік тому +3

    Just curious but I was wondering if you had Bell’s palsy before. I’m suffering from it now. I’ve had it for 3 weeks now. I see similarities between your face and mine. I’ve gotten some use of my facial muscles back but still can’t close my eye or smile fully. Sorry if it’s too private and you don’t want to answer.

    • @heatherweiss7507
      @heatherweiss7507 Рік тому

      Theraphi

    • @aaronwestley3239
      @aaronwestley3239 Рік тому

      I had before. I was scared as f. Lol. I cant move half of my face, can't smile, wink. Took around a month or more for me to fully recover with therapy. There are tutorials on UA-cam for this. Just follow them and do them 3x a day. Also eat vegetables and more meat and eggs to help your nerves regenerate and sleep a complete 8 hours or more a day. You'll get better. Don't worry too much.

  • @Zithorius
    @Zithorius Рік тому

    4:20 I hear that Quinn's Ideas bgm, cultured

  • @UtaShirokage
    @UtaShirokage Рік тому +2

    I mean, have they tried soaking cells in goat milk mixed with paprika and soy sauce? No? Thought so.

  • @Grrr111___
    @Grrr111___ Рік тому

    Beo what’s the song name in the beginning?

  • @YTChannel344
    @YTChannel344 6 місяців тому

    This teaches us to never take anything at face value, always do independent investigations & research on something that sounds too good to be true.

  • @TravellerZasha
    @TravellerZasha Рік тому +2

    I only have minimum level science so i'm super naive to this but does the concept of STAP cells, specifically converting a cell back into a stem cell (maybe under stress) have potential outside of this fraud?

    • @hulahula6182
      @hulahula6182 Рік тому +1

      Didn't you watch the video, stahp cells don't exist, dipping cells into acid just makes them glow green

    • @musthaf9
      @musthaf9 Рік тому

      I believe so, if true

  • @pauljoey7977
    @pauljoey7977 Рік тому +2

    Reminds me of a virus topic

  • @studiosandi
    @studiosandi 11 місяців тому

    So interesting ❤

  • @hikaryagravity
    @hikaryagravity 11 місяців тому

    What's the tittle of the first music at the beginning ?