Awesome-thank you so much for posting this, Wink and team! Kevin is one of the most underappreciated hosts, IMHO. He delivered "Go" and his several pilots with eloquence, wit, genuineness, and professionalism. He never had a "big hit" in the game show realm other than "Go" but was always a solid, strong host and a joy to watch. I look forward to more pilots!
Marc Summers on Announcing Duty! I forgot he did it! Meanwhile Kevin O'Connell is doing well on Channel 2 News in Buffalo until this year (when he retires).
I really miss seeing Kevin and the gang on WGRZ! I used to watch them in New Brunswick, Canada more than any other news broadcast, even ones more local to me. Then I moved to Ontario and after a few years, my satellite provider switched to Detroit affiliates and I lost WGRZ. :( I still see them once in a blue moon, but that's not enough.
I agree. I think it would be better if the host would say to the home audience to look away if they don’t want to see the reveal and then tell the audience when they can focus back on the screen.
@@DBR00 Like I said, the Aussie version didn't do the reveal, whereas the UK version did. Complete with Alistair telling the home audience to look away if they wanted to play along.
One, licensing costs (seeing how they didn't use a live band but rather recordings). Two, Reg Grundy was already bankrupting the heck out of NBC with Sale of the Century and Scrabble, not sure they'd be considered for anything else.
@@wschmrdr You can tell it's RG because they used a lot of pink. They were on a roll with Sale of the Century and Scrabble, but Time Machine and Hot Streak didn't work, so they couldn't build up more. Too bad.
@@davidlivingston2754 Jay Wolpert should've done this then. Two changes, shoot it at CBS Studio Center and hire a house band (Tom Scott or Jack Elliott) to reduce costs of licensing.
I can kinda see why this didn't get picked up in the states (it's essentially "Bid A Note" from Name That Tune) but I think a revival would work. Modern songs, a different set, another 5 seconds added to the clock in the bonus round....
In contrast, look at the contestants on the UK and Aussie Keynotes. They usually don't get that excited (unless they won the main game and/or bonus round)!
Even if this show had become cleared to air on CBS, I doubt that reruns for this would be possible later because this is a musical game show, with clips from various songs be used and they'd have to be cleared for use each time with whoever owns the rights to the recordings heard on each episode.
Not much of a show, but Kevin O’Connell did a decent job with what he had to work with. Personally, I would have liked to have seen him as host of the nighttime version of Card Sharks as opposed to Bill Rafferty. I could have pictured Bill Rafferty hosting Truth or Consequences.
Paulette was a contestant on the 1991, John Davidson-hosted "$100,000 Pyramid" during it's first week. In one of the "Double Trouble" categories, she gave a hilarious clue for the phrase "Bosom Buddies..."
"Summer, where is the $25 money card?" "Behind #4, Jim!" BTW, that little jingle when the light flashes around was also used on the UK and Aussie Keynotes in their bonus rounds.
It had a fairly successful run in Australia during the 1992-93 summer period (when the usual shows, "Sale of the Century", "Wheel of Fortune" etc. were not airing). The following year (1993), a summer revival of "The Price is Right" fared way better... and lasted until the end of Australia's 1998 season.
Because the US version had a "play-to-a-goal" format, whereas the other versions required you to have more money than your opponents to go to the bonus round. By the way, if I did have something negative to say about the UK and Aussie Keynotes, it's the payoffs. You could be down 90-0 (or 900-0 in the case of Australia) in round 3, get the final song, and win. (It's 30-60-120 for each round's songs on UK Keynotes, multiplied by 10 for the Aussie counterpart.)
Hell, I could even see Alistair Divall commuting between Los Angeles and London doing both US and UK Keynotes if Kevin O'Connell wasn't available. BTW, I know this was meant to be for CBS, but it really felt more like something NBC could've added to their schedule.
BTW, I wonder if anyone tried to show the pilot to Alistair Divall and Richard Wilkins-- who hosted the UK and Aussie versions of Keynotes, respectively? Bet they'd appreciate the franchise's beginnings as a US pilot.
No mistaking Marc Summers' voice at the start... and I even remember meeting Kevin alongside the Channel 2 News team on a class field trip during senior year in college (for the record: I went to Canisius College, with Digital Media Arts as my major). Granted it was our take on an international favorite, it's got a *lot* of promise-too bad CBS didn't seem to think much of it.
This was a RG production that did sell in both the UK (ITV) and Australia (Nine Network) but both of those could of used taking the US rules, cause in both of those versions (UK and Aussie) you could win both of the first two rounds, and the other team win Round #3 (it was a force three rounds in both of those versions) and the winner of round #3 automatically WON the game, no matter who won rounds 1 and 2 due to the prize mechanic ($300-$600-$1,200 Aussie : 30-60-120 Quid in the UK version)
Marc Summers was announcing. And for a bit of trivia, the theme music was also used on Run for the Money (a.k.a. Questions pour un Champion US), and the time's up buzzer in the bonus round was also used on Scattergories.
You know, speaking of the theme song, it reminds me of NBC’s short-lived Grundy game from 1985, “Time Machine”, leading me to believe that the Keynotes theme Might’ve first been used on a pilot of Time Machine, but I’m not 100% sure.
I saw the Wiki entry for this show and am BOGGLED as to how early this pilot was; THREE YEARS before it started airing in the UK. I'm also amazed how easily I guessed Grundy as the producer of the show as it had all of those Grundyisms: New wavish musical score Graphics slightly ahead of their time Post-Break cue Bonus points for Marc Summers fresh off his stint on Hot Streak. I can only ask why the BALLS did this not debut in the US months after the pilot? -_-
Not every pilot sells, sadly. I think this could've worked. But RG was not doing well at this point. They started well with Sale of the Century and Scrabble, then Time Machine and Hot Streak failed, so it was harder for them. This is the second pilot they made that didn't sell that I thought had potential. They were sort of like Goodson-Todman and Barry-Enright, game show wizards.
This show was a daytime TV staple in the late 80s and early 90s here in the UK. Great fun and it had almost cult status. Pretty sure it was popular in Australia too.
I sat in the audience for the Clint Holmes hosted pilot. As for as I can remember there are some changes to the set but the game remained the same. This is my favorite unsold pilot.
Biggest problem i see is after langes ntt flopped music quizzes were relegated to the country genre and tnn and well need more diversity in tunes for these kinds of shows...also theyre right the $$$ needed to play actual recordings made this too big budget for anything but the networks
Marc Summers also announced for the last 3 or 4 weeks of "Bruce Forsyth's Hot Streak"*, taking over for Gene Wood. I guess it's common practice for a "no-name" announcer to take over when a game show is ticketed for cancellation. *Forsyth also died this past August at the age of 89, RIP.
This was taped in August of 1986. Perhaps Marc took jobs he could find until he got the call to audition for Double Dare, or he took different jobs to stay busy until Double Dare began taping after he was confirmed as host.
Marc had his final audition for Double Dare around Labor Day of 1986, based on interviews with him. When in doubt, throw it to commercial. That's how you get the job.
It was most likely going to air at a time where CBS must cancel that show so they can afford to make room for a court show or talk show that requires syndicated
It could of still made it within an 80s timeframe, if it wasn't for the pilot/opening episodes necessity of reexplaining everything nonstop. In addition, make the song reveal while the first two come up each round if you need to pair more time off, and for 2018, make it hit a button to stop a random number or light instead of the cards. What also gets me is like the others, have the 9 boxes in physical representation at the top, but NEVER use them!!! Seriously??? Why not have the trilion turn to a note symbol when got behind the host. The ONE WIERD thing the US Pilot fixed that neither UK or Aussie solved was the previous rounds issue. Let me explain, here it's $500-$500-$1,000 (or $500) with $1,000+ to win, making it who won two rounds first). On both the UK and Aussie versions rounds #1 and #2 meant absolutely nothing but winning money, as the value of round #3 was more than Rounds one and two combined, so it was only "who won round three won the game" game. Quite a shame...
If this format had a little quicker pacing, I believe it would have sold. The "key" problem with this pilot is that the bonus round wouldn't fit in a single episode if there had been three full rounds played. Also was surprised that the three sections of the gameboard didn't have the same Red/Yellow/Blue sections like the British & Australian versions. That being said, this was definitely a solid format & Kevin O was on top of his game here. So instead of this game, ABC opted for clunkers like Double Talk & Bargain Hunters? Hm. I wonder if Fremantle owns the rights to this game. I'd watch a revival.
I agree. This pilot ran 25 minutes without commercials, so if it had made it to air-they'd have to do some heavy editing, play shorter song clips at each faceoff, and do what the UK and Australian versions did-give the fifth keynote for free at the start of each song. That could have made the pilot fit in a 30-minute timeslot better.
I have seen Rochelle somewhere before... maybe The Price Is Right? I remember a priceless moment of someone that looks like her all excited, shaking her head and hand and jumping up and down....somewhere in one of the 1980 episodes. I'm sure someone will recall this as well.
They did it in the UK version, too, however, Alistair did remind the home audience to look away from the screen if they wanted to play along. The Aussie version, however, did not give away the song.
18:12 - the sound effect of the Fame Game board and 21:56 buzzer on $ale of the Century, and 18:24- a possible incomplete sound effect from NBC's Scrabble.......both are Reg Grundy shows!
You're right. There isn't any penalty for ringing in early. They should stop the song at a ring-in. Then if you really were confident, you can guess without the audio cues.
Clever. Some aesthetics issue but it’s ok. Marc Summers as announcer... interesting. Only thing, the pace needs to improve otherwise how could you play the end game in under 23 mins
I can believe that it did not get picked up here in the U.S; it does not have much staying power and variety like Wheel of Fortune or The Price Is Right. If it would have been picked up, then I can see a short run for less than three years. When compared with the U.K. (Alistair Divall) version, they used both British and American music, which is rather surprising. This pilot only featured American music, which showed the limited variety that the pilot wanted to convey. Plus, the U.K. version has more simplicity, a little less on the volume of excitement, hosting was less rigid, and it was more laid back despite the lower payouts. As a music teacher, the format is very basic, and is very useful indeed for classroom usage.
Genuine question and I know that there are cultural differences between the US and the UK but seriously, do people behave this way in real life? Like way way OTT shrieking and arms wailing.
The exaggerated reactions were very commonplace on American game shows back in those days (still the case with some of their game shows today). I think "energy" is the keynote (sorry) keyword that most American game shows use for their contestants - the "reactions" on this pilot episode notwithstanding.
Awesome-thank you so much for posting this, Wink and team! Kevin is one of the most underappreciated hosts, IMHO. He delivered "Go" and his several pilots with eloquence, wit, genuineness, and professionalism. He never had a "big hit" in the game show realm other than "Go" but was always a solid, strong host and a joy to watch. I look forward to more pilots!
Keynotes proved to be more successful in the UK, where 5 series were made between 1989 and 1992.
Actually a clever game show for the '80s.
A month later, Marc Summers would begin hosting Double Dare
A month later Marc Summers would become a legend
(I fixed it for you)
This would have been a really good game show to watch. Even this host fits the show. Love it.
Marc Summers on Announcing Duty! I forgot he did it! Meanwhile Kevin O'Connell is doing well on Channel 2 News in Buffalo until this year (when he retires).
He also announced "Bruce Forsyth's Hot Streak" on ABC the same year.
I really miss seeing Kevin and the gang on WGRZ! I used to watch them in New Brunswick, Canada more than any other news broadcast, even ones more local to me. Then I moved to Ontario and after a few years, my satellite provider switched to Detroit affiliates and I lost WGRZ. :( I still see them once in a blue moon, but that's not enough.
John Beard, one of Kevin O'Connell's KNBC colleagues was at Channel 2 News in Buffalo as well.
didn't know he was retiring this year from Channel 2
As well as the 1998 Fox Family flop I Can't Believe You Said That!, hosted by ex-Detroit Piston John Salley.
This show would've been a lot better if the watchers didn't know the big reveal.
I agree. I think it would be better if the host would say to the home audience to look away if they don’t want to see the reveal and then tell the audience when they can focus back on the screen.
@@DBR00 Like I said, the Aussie version didn't do the reveal, whereas the UK version did. Complete with Alistair telling the home audience to look away if they wanted to play along.
Why didn’t this get picked up? Would have gotten the audience from “Name That Tune,” for sure. Host did a great job, too.
One, licensing costs (seeing how they didn't use a live band but rather recordings). Two, Reg Grundy was already bankrupting the heck out of NBC with Sale of the Century and Scrabble, not sure they'd be considered for anything else.
@@wschmrdr You can tell it's RG because they used a lot of pink. They were on a roll with Sale of the Century and Scrabble, but Time Machine and Hot Streak didn't work, so they couldn't build up more. Too bad.
@@wschmrdr This was actually for CBS
@@davidlivingston2754 Jay Wolpert should've done this then. Two changes, shoot it at CBS Studio Center and hire a house band (Tom Scott or Jack Elliott) to reduce costs of licensing.
This show should've sold.
I can kinda see why this didn't get picked up in the states (it's essentially "Bid A Note" from Name That Tune) but I think a revival would work. Modern songs, a different set, another 5 seconds added to the clock in the bonus round....
Nobody could be that geeked up without the use of a couple producer supplied speeders.This was beyond enthusiasm.
In contrast, look at the contestants on the UK and Aussie Keynotes. They usually don't get that excited (unless they won the main game and/or bonus round)!
The once and future host of "Double Dare", Marc Summers.
Even if this show had become cleared to air on CBS, I doubt that reruns for this would be possible later because this is a musical game show, with clips from various songs be used and they'd have to be cleared for use each time with whoever owns the rights to the recordings heard on each episode.
I'm not usually big on music game shows, But I really like this one. I wish Kevin O'Connell hosted more shows, he was very underrated.
Marc Summers would be taping his first eps of Double Dare a month after this pilot was taped. :D
This reminds me of Family Feud's Face Off and Name That Tune
Not much of a show, but Kevin O’Connell did a decent job with what he had to work with. Personally, I would have liked to have seen him as host of the nighttime version of Card Sharks as opposed to Bill Rafferty. I could have pictured Bill Rafferty hosting Truth or Consequences.
Paulette was a contestant on the 1991, John Davidson-hosted "$100,000 Pyramid" during it's first week. In one of the "Double Trouble" categories, she gave a hilarious clue for the phrase "Bosom Buddies..."
I knew she looked familiar! I never forget a face. Or a rack.
During the bonus round I kept waiting for the contestant to say, “I need a $25 money card NOW!!”
Me too
"Summer, where is the $25 money card?"
"Behind #4, Jim!"
BTW, that little jingle when the light flashes around was also used on the UK and Aussie Keynotes in their bonus rounds.
Thank you! This would have been a great show.
Rochelle, the infamous contestant from Match Game!
It's still a shame Kevin O'Connell's game show hosting career never really took off after Go came to an end...
True, though he returned to being a weather anchor (I'm unsure if he retired from) WGRZ in Buffalo.
@@newstarcadefan He got fired. He still lives in the Buffalo area (his hometown, and mine as well!) and works for Catholic Health.)
In 1972 Merrill Heatter's my favorite game show is called : Runaround w/ Paul Winchell. I wish I 👍 to watch ⌚ it. - Krista Venise Jones
It had a fairly successful run in Australia during the 1992-93 summer period (when the usual shows, "Sale of the Century", "Wheel of Fortune" etc. were not airing).
The following year (1993), a summer revival of "The Price is Right" fared way better... and lasted until the end of Australia's 1998 season.
The Australian version had lower than expected ratings even though they were respectable during the summer.
it would 4 years later in 1990, the UK have their version and Australia in 1992
The UK version started in 1989, actually.
Andrew Schroy oh ok. The US version has two rounds while the UK and Australian version has three rounds.
Because the US version had a "play-to-a-goal" format, whereas the other versions required you to have more money than your opponents to go to the bonus round.
By the way, if I did have something negative to say about the UK and Aussie Keynotes, it's the payoffs. You could be down 90-0 (or 900-0 in the case of Australia) in round 3, get the final song, and win. (It's 30-60-120 for each round's songs on UK Keynotes, multiplied by 10 for the Aussie counterpart.)
it looked very great
Let me toss this idea out there. Who else could have hosted this? Could Tom Kennedy have pulled this format off?
Hell, I could even see Alistair Divall commuting between Los Angeles and London doing both US and UK Keynotes if Kevin O'Connell wasn't available. BTW, I know this was meant to be for CBS, but it really felt more like something NBC could've added to their schedule.
Taped at Television City in Hollywood for CBS!
I get it ''i dare you'' is the clue to Marc Summers thanks Wink
BTW, I wonder if anyone tried to show the pilot to Alistair Divall and Richard Wilkins-- who hosted the UK and Aussie versions of Keynotes, respectively? Bet they'd appreciate the franchise's beginnings as a US pilot.
No mistaking Marc Summers' voice at the start... and I even remember meeting Kevin alongside the Channel 2 News team on a class field trip during senior year in college (for the record: I went to Canisius College, with Digital Media Arts as my major).
Granted it was our take on an international favorite, it's got a *lot* of promise-too bad CBS didn't seem to think much of it.
This was a RG production that did sell in both the UK (ITV) and Australia (Nine Network) but both of those could of used taking the US rules, cause in both of those versions (UK and Aussie) you could win both of the first two rounds, and the other team win Round #3 (it was a force three rounds in both of those versions) and the winner of round #3 automatically WON the game, no matter who won rounds 1 and 2 due to the prize mechanic ($300-$600-$1,200 Aussie : 30-60-120 Quid in the UK version)
BTW, it was 50-100-200 during the first series of the UK version.
marc summers
When Family Feud Meats Name That Tune
Ahh... So Marc Summers did both this and Bruce Forsyth's Hot Streak. Nice.
The show should've been on the US!
Linda appeared on Press Your Luck earlier that summer.
The Eggplant That Ate Chicago that’s right! There is a clip of her on youtube
Don't recognize him... I think I'll have to take the physical challenge.
Marc Summers was announcing. And for a bit of trivia, the theme music was also used on Run for the Money (a.k.a. Questions pour un Champion US), and the time's up buzzer in the bonus round was also used on Scattergories.
You know, speaking of the theme song, it reminds me of NBC’s short-lived Grundy game from 1985, “Time Machine”, leading me to believe that the Keynotes theme Might’ve first been used on a pilot of Time Machine, but I’m not 100% sure.
For those who wondered and asked before (me, too) Yes, Rochelle was also a contestant on MATCH GAME
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I saw the Wiki entry for this show and am BOGGLED as to how early this pilot was; THREE YEARS before it started airing in the UK. I'm also amazed how easily I guessed Grundy as the producer of the show as it had all of those Grundyisms:
New wavish musical score
Graphics slightly ahead of their time
Post-Break cue
Bonus points for Marc Summers fresh off his stint on Hot Streak.
I can only ask why the BALLS did this not debut in the US months after the pilot? -_-
Not every pilot sells, sadly. I think this could've worked. But RG was not doing well at this point. They started well with Sale of the Century and Scrabble, then Time Machine and Hot Streak failed, so it was harder for them. This is the second pilot they made that didn't sell that I thought had potential. They were sort of like Goodson-Todman and Barry-Enright, game show wizards.
Wow, I didn’t know America had their own version of that game show. I only know the British and Australian version.
I like it!
This was a musician’s show. Probably would’ve aced this!
This show was a daytime TV staple in the late 80s and early 90s here in the UK. Great fun and it had almost cult status. Pretty sure it was popular in Australia too.
This pilot was good, surprise it didn't sell.
Again, it did sell to England and Australia.
The show sold in Australia, but it got canceled after its lone season by 9 because of lower than expected ratings.
Ben was on Sale of the Century, he is in the Tournament of Champions in 1988
Was he as hyperactive there as he was here? Considering SOTC is not known for having over-caffinated contestants... XD
He was also a contestant on NYSI in 1989, taking home close to $40K.
Who sang the Where Oh Where Has My Little Dog Gone song?
I sat in the audience for the Clint Holmes hosted pilot. As for as I can remember there are some changes to the set but the game remained the same. This is my favorite unsold pilot.
Who was the announcer on Clint's pilot? I still want to say Johnny Gilbert, but I could be wrong...
I didn’t know that Kevin O’Connell ever attempted another game show hosting job after Go!
He also did Money in the Blank in 1987. Like Keynotes, CBS said no to selling it.
Again yet another show that should had been picked up.
If it’s any style of game show I could’ve aced, it was music.
Biggest problem i see is after langes ntt flopped music quizzes were relegated to the country genre and tnn and well need more diversity in tunes for these kinds of shows...also theyre right the $$$ needed to play actual recordings made this too big budget for anything but the networks
Marc Summers is the announcer. The day of taping in May 86, which 4 months later he was doing Double Dare. K.O. was coming off doing GO!
Marc Summers also announced for the last 3 or 4 weeks of "Bruce Forsyth's Hot Streak"*, taking over for Gene Wood. I guess it's common practice for a "no-name" announcer to take over when a game show is ticketed for cancellation. *Forsyth also died this past August at the age of 89, RIP.
When was Marc Summers confirmed as the host of Double Dare? The first episode was taped on September 18th of that year.
It's August of '86, you got the 5 and 8 backwards.
This was taped in August of 1986. Perhaps Marc took jobs he could find until he got the call to audition for Double Dare, or he took different jobs to stay busy until Double Dare began taping after he was confirmed as host.
Marc had his final audition for Double Dare around Labor Day of 1986, based on interviews with him. When in doubt, throw it to commercial. That's how you get the job.
Wasn't contestant Ben Wong also a contestant on Match Game '90 with Ross Shafer?
Yes. He had a three day run. He won over $5,000.
Reg could've then tried to put this on CBS he never had a GS for that network
Maybe he tried but just never could do it.
It was most likely going to air at a time where CBS must cancel that show so they can afford to make room for a court show or talk show that requires syndicated
They also taped this show at CBS Television City, since they are using the "applause machine" that CBS used on its game shows back then.
It could of still made it within an 80s timeframe, if it wasn't for the pilot/opening episodes necessity of reexplaining everything nonstop.
In addition, make the song reveal while the first two come up each round if you need to pair more time off, and for 2018, make it hit a button to stop a random number or light instead of the cards.
What also gets me is like the others, have the 9 boxes in physical representation at the top, but NEVER use them!!! Seriously??? Why not have the trilion turn to a note symbol when got behind the host.
The ONE WIERD thing the US Pilot fixed that neither UK or Aussie solved was the previous rounds issue. Let me explain, here it's $500-$500-$1,000 (or $500) with $1,000+ to win, making it who won two rounds first). On both the UK and Aussie versions rounds #1 and #2 meant absolutely nothing but winning money, as the value of round #3 was more than Rounds one and two combined, so it was only "who won round three won the game" game. Quite a shame...
If this format had a little quicker pacing, I believe it would have sold. The "key" problem with this pilot is that the bonus round wouldn't fit in a single episode if there had been three full rounds played. Also was surprised that the three sections of the gameboard didn't have the same Red/Yellow/Blue sections like the British & Australian versions. That being said, this was definitely a solid format & Kevin O was on top of his game here. So instead of this game, ABC opted for clunkers like Double Talk & Bargain Hunters? Hm. I wonder if Fremantle owns the rights to this game. I'd watch a revival.
If ABC brings back their "Fun and Games" block for another summer, _this_ should be worth considering.
That's why you start off with three notes instead of two.
Except the UK Keynotes had a green section in place of blue...
I agree. This pilot ran 25 minutes without commercials, so if it had made it to air-they'd have to do some heavy editing, play shorter song clips at each faceoff, and do what the UK and Australian versions did-give the fifth keynote for free at the start of each song. That could have made the pilot fit in a 30-minute timeslot better.
Just a bit of info-- in round 3 of the UK version, they gave the seventh keynote for free as well.
I have seen Rochelle somewhere before... maybe The Price Is Right? I remember a priceless moment of someone that looks like her all excited, shaking her head and hand and jumping up and down....somewhere in one of the 1980 episodes. I'm sure someone will recall this as well.
I remember seeing her on Match Game as well, nearly scaring Bob Donner in the process when she won.
Rochelle was previously on Match Game in 1981, where she infamously mugged Robert Donner.
I FINALLY FOUND Rochelle! ua-cam.com/video/bji8qNf9qlM/v-deo.html
Marc Summers
For God's sake, Rochelle.... INVEST IN DECAF!!!
Timothy McClelland LOL
Better yet, don't drink before going on the air.
Just like Match Game.
What TV show had the cast see the movie 'Rochelle, Rochelle'?
This Feels Like 2 Gameshows Put Together Family Feud And Name That Tune.
Who is the announcer what are the rules
This should've been in syndication not network.
Disagree-- I think it would work better as a network show. Though I think NBC would've been a better fit instead of CBS.
The ring in sound effect was from Sale of the Century
One of the ring-ins-- the other sound came from the Run for the Money pilot. As did the theme song.
And the bonus round randomized was the Fame Game board sound
I hated how they gave the home viewer the answer...took all the fun out of it.
They did it in the UK version, too, however, Alistair did remind the home audience to look away from the screen if they wanted to play along.
The Aussie version, however, did not give away the song.
The bells and buzzer are both from "The Price Is Right" and this isn't even a Mark Goodson Production.
18:12 - the sound effect of the Fame Game board and 21:56 buzzer on $ale of the Century, and 18:24- a possible incomplete sound effect from NBC's Scrabble.......both are Reg Grundy shows!
Plus a couple of Sale of the Century sounds effects too.
Like the bell for a right answer or giving each player $20 to start on $ale.
It was common for shows taped at CBS to use those sounds back in the day-- look at Press Your Luck, for example.
Don't forget Scattegories at 18:21.
I would ring in as soon as the song started, and then figure out the last word when it got to that point. At least you have good chance.
You're right. There isn't any penalty for ringing in early. They should stop the song at a ring-in. Then if you really were confident, you can guess without the audio cues.
Or is it Marc summers
Hey, Is this the WIVB weatherman?
I thought Kevin only worked at WGRZ there...
Clever. Some aesthetics issue but it’s ok. Marc Summers as announcer... interesting. Only thing, the pace needs to improve otherwise how could you play the end game in under 23 mins
This wasn't a bad pilot, it should've sold.
It did in the UK and Australia.
If it did, would Marc have ended up the announcer, and not the host of Double Dare?
Given how many shows he announced for CBS in the 80s, I would've maybe had Johnny Gilbert in the booth, had it sold in America.
I can't believe this wasn't picked up, this is more exciting than some of the game shows over the years that did get picked up
It did, however, get picked up in England and Australia...
maybe the network execs. were concerned about music clearances.
I can believe that it did not get picked up here in the U.S; it does not have much staying power and variety like Wheel of Fortune or The Price Is Right. If it would have been picked up, then I can see a short run for less than three years. When compared with the U.K. (Alistair Divall) version, they used both British and American music, which is rather surprising. This pilot only featured American music, which showed the limited variety that the pilot wanted to convey. Plus, the U.K. version has more simplicity, a little less on the volume of excitement, hosting was less rigid, and it was more laid back despite the lower payouts. As a music teacher, the format is very basic, and is very useful indeed for classroom usage.
Maybe Fremantle should make another pilot of this one with Mandy Moore as host.
This pilot sounds like it was taped at CBS, rather than NBC.
It was, at Studio 33.
Those opening nine notes are creepy as hell.
Rochelle needs to chill
and so does Toni!
Ohhhhhh the licensing.
Not if NBC had picked it up. Honestly, what non-public domain music DON'T they own?
This was supposed to be on ABC
Although it was taped at CBS Television City.
Jessy Leppert it was actually made for CBS.
Judging by the date it was taped, it was set to replace Press Your Luck before CBS decided to give their affiliates the 4pm spot.
Genuine question and I know that there are cultural differences between the US and the UK but seriously, do people behave this way in real life? Like way way OTT shrieking and arms wailing.
The exaggerated reactions were very commonplace on American game shows back in those days (still the case with some of their game shows today).
I think "energy" is the keynote (sorry) keyword that most American game shows use for their contestants - the "reactions" on this pilot episode notwithstanding.
Was this show taped at CBS Television City?
TonyKanameKuran yes
At Studio 33/The Bob Barker Studios, no less!
It sounded like a CBS game show!
Taped at CBS Television City (Studio 33, now known as the Bob Barker Studio).
Is this the only game show Reg did for CBS?
I could hear the CBS dings, too. And that buzzer from Price is Right, too. And that randomizer from Sale of the Century.
Seems like a poor version of Name That Tune.
Chuck Ganc It seems more like Name That Tune with elements of Family Feud (contestant face-off) and Super Password (guessing the puzzle song).
I can ask you, Nicely... Do you have more games, Yet?
Marc Summers
Jessy Leppert yes it is