Well, they are. They get joined by the Monongahela in Pittsburgh, but that could definitely be viewed as a tributary instead of two rivers coming to a confluence and forming a third.
@@harbingerofsarcasm2510it's the only river that runs through our territory that we have the authority to have a sign in Onöndowa'ga:' gawë:nö׳. It is also the name of the territory it runs through and the onöndowa'ga:' who reside there.
Indiana meaning "land of the Indians" but not having an Indigenous name... Also, the American south may get a lot of heat for not teaching the civil war honestly, but my education growing up in Indiana did not teach me the honest brutality of western expansion and manifest destiny either. My history classes taught me nothing about indigenous people after colonization. There were always those kids that said they had 1% native blood, but I don't even think I ever met students that identified themselves as culturally belonging to any tribe. I knew nothing about the treaties, what reservations were like, the spiritual oppression, residential schools, and the list of other things the US and Canada did to try and erase them. I learned all of that on my own time. I learned a lot of the truth on my own time, and I worry for the people who never took the time to learn anything more than what their small town taught them.
And then in Washington I was taught about the evil white man and all the innocent minorities they wronged. The oppression olympics really undermines education. America needs to find a middle ground 🙏
I'm from Missouri and my family is extremely white looking except sometimes we look sort of yellow but we are a quarter Cherokee but we never practiced any thing or went to Oklahoma to visit family. Kinda weird, but so are ancestry tests and genetics. Most of the people claiming that weird odd 1% are probably wrong, but there is always a chance that Great-great-times a million grandpappy cheated on grandma with an Indian.
Texas comes from the Caddo word for "friend", IIRC the original word is pronounced like "tay-shas" or something like that. The 'x' is there because that's how the spaniards would have spelled it phonetically I believe, at the time (like 400 years ago). Similar situation with Mexico, except Mexico comes from the Nahuatl language. And I think it is the word the Aztecs used to identify their own people (Mexica, pronounced "me-shi-ka" iirc) Someone can correct me on this.
You’re correct except that Taysha later went to Spanish as Tejas and the Anglo-Mexican settlers referred to it as Texas basically Caddo->Spanish -> English
@errir4042 yes, I just assumed the change fro x to j happened much later, still begs the question why does english preserve the x if it changed in spanish?
Imagine if someone butchered your name, then managed to get it put on all your official paperwork, and made you famous later on so that everyone knew and said your name the wrong way, forever? Oof.
Same point as other commenter above: we aren't choosy in America, we will happily butcher any language however we like. We don't even like being consistent about it. Visiting another Missouri town in the 90s, I had to ask for directions, but struggled, because the street names were all French, but I didn't know how exactly the regional folks had chosen to butcher them. (There was never a question as to whether or not they had butchered them. That was a given.)
“Idaho” actually doesn’t come from any native languages or indigenous cultures. It was a completely made up word that was used to increase for the campaign for statehood
I heard Iowa was actually a derogatory term that a tribe gave the people that actually lived there. It’s funny cause here in our schools a lot they tell the kids that means land or something else stupid like that
“Beautiful land” is what I was taught in school. I’m not surprised it was made up. “Sleepy ones” doesn’t fit the hard-working midwestern mythos very well. I know there was a tribe called the Ioway. Living History Farms near Des Moines has reconstructed bark houses and some demonstrations of their farming methods.
In western NY, many, many of our towns and roads have native origins. To those of us growing up here, they are familiar and most of us can spell them, but out of towners can never pronounce, let alone spell them. Tonawanda is easy, but Scajaquada is tough. I just asked my husband how to spell the very familiar Buffalo expressway and he answered, “the 198.”
And lots of rivers. When one linguistic group arrives (& takes over) names of geographic features often retain a form based upon the Indigenous word. Sometimes what a Nation was & is called depends upon who the French (English, Dutch) asked “and who are those people on the other side (of the river, mountains, etc.).” Sometimes the answer was not complimentary. Native English speakers can often spot French renditions - Illinois, Iroquois, …. I wonder what we would call & spell Houdenosaunee (a/k/a “Iroquois”) if the French had asked the Great Council of that Confederation first?
michigan is great lake in ojibwe except its not the real spelling. wyoming could be algonquian because ojibwe likes to end place names with ng like in ishpaming michigan. so if wyoming is algonquian then it could be referring to a place
@@happyfacefriescloudy water or clear water depending on how you pronounce the s. more than half the state names are native american and theyre usually from algonquian or siouan languages. a lot of states in the middle have siouan names like the dakotas and minnesota. then theres a lot of algonquian names like michigan, mississippi, connecticut, massachusetts, wisconsin and illinois. algonquians call a river sipi so big river is mississippi. the same beginning is found in michigan because it means great lake.. and its probably the same beginning for massachusetts too
This doesn’t really count, but apparently Idaho is a complete gibberish word that was made up by a white guy to sound Native American, which makes it my favorite state name for that reason
wait, i thought idaho was a made-up name? there was some story that another state was gonna be named that but it wound up going to the currently named territory
Yes, it was. At some point in the territory naming process for what is now Colorado, one of the delegates suggested "Idaho", claiming it was an Indian term that meant "gem of the mountains". It was already being used for a mining town (now Idaho springs, Colorado) in the area. A later delegate found out that the name was made up and suggested the name "Colorado" instead. A few years later, the various delegates in charge of the territories remembered the name Idaho and its supposed meaning, but forgot that the name was made up. The name then went to the now state of Idaho. Source: isb.idaho.gov/wp-content/uploads/The_Naming_of_Idaho_1283.pdf
Lake Weohyakapka is a lake 10 miles east of Lake Wales, FL. The 7500+ acre lake has a maximum depth of 12 feet. Its Anglicised name is Walk-in-the-Water, because it is so shallow, and the gradient of the lake bottom is so small, you can walk into it for 100 yards and the water is only waist deep or less.
There are alot of beautiful places on that side of the county. I wonder how long those places will be around? I'm a native of Pok County and Lakeland, and its getting too crowded.
@@johngavin1175 There's lots of land east of Haines City, Lake Wales, and Frostproof. A lot of land between Frostproof and Ft. Meade, and between Lake Wales and Bartow.
New Jersey is obviously an English name based on the Island of Jersey. We just... needed a Peninsula of Jersey too. But many of our towns and cities have indigenous names too! Ramapough, Manasquan and Mantoloking to name a few.
Many of the rivers, towns & lakes are also aboriginal names. Actually, this means that the lands belong to the aboriginal people - the American Indians. Since there was no change in names , everything still belongs to us. Therefore, our women must stand up and claim our inheritance- which we never gave away. This is the land of the Matriarchs- the tribal men never had the right to sell, lease or make treaties regarding this land-North & South America. Hear what I’m saying- the Truth!
North and South Dakota are directly north of Oklahoma, not west. Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota and North Dakota are just a belt cutting through the middle of the country.
While Washington itself isn't an indigenous-derived name, many if not most of the city and town names are. Seattle, Puyallup, Issaquah, Yakima, etc. Even my elementary school was named after an indigenous tribe.
Not here to talk about anything but geography. You'll find the Dakotas due north of Oklahoma, as opposed to the "further west" you described them as. A good and informative video nonetheless
It’s ironic that this video is about language or at least names, but you don’t know the difference between “farther“ and “further.“ Hint: “further“ it’s for non-physical distance, like “I’m going to take this a step further, and presume that you didn’t pay too much attention in English class.““ California is farther east than Hawaii.”
Im shocked that oregon isn't of native origin, at least where I lie in ~~portland~~ there are alot of areas very close with names of native origin, like the willamate, and alot of counties or neighborhoods, so for a long time I assumed that oregon was drived from a native word.
the story for Hawaiʻi is pretty interesting because it originally only described the largest island in the archipelago, but since that's the island that ended up conquering the islands, all the islands are known as Hawaiian
Iirc this is, in fact, why Kansas and Arkansas are Like That™: Kansas is the English attempt, Arkansas is the French attempt
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So we could call it "Kan-Saw" and it could be technically correct?
Also note:
Mackinac
Mackinaw
@@AndrewMcColl Actually, yeah--it's "Kansa" or "Kanza."
Ohi:yo is also the Seneca name for the Allegheny since they consider them to be the same river.
my weeb ass when driving past the signs as a teenager thought it was ohaiyo like "good morning" in Japanese.
interesting how language kinda overlaps
Well, they are. They get joined by the Monongahela in Pittsburgh, but that could definitely be viewed as a tributary instead of two rivers coming to a confluence and forming a third.
Ohi:yo' wasn't labeled on a particular river, it was what all beautiful rivers were called. It's also pronounced oh hee yo
@old17pyro55 well, fact remains the Seneca living now call the Allegheny the Ohi:yo on their road signs and not so other rivers
@@harbingerofsarcasm2510it's the only river that runs through our territory that we have the authority to have a sign in Onöndowa'ga:' gawë:nö׳. It is also the name of the territory it runs through and the onöndowa'ga:' who reside there.
Hey! I'm Baxoje! Love to hear our people mentioned! Wénawehi.
Indiana meaning "land of the Indians" but not having an Indigenous name...
Also, the American south may get a lot of heat for not teaching the civil war honestly, but my education growing up in Indiana did not teach me the honest brutality of western expansion and manifest destiny either. My history classes taught me nothing about indigenous people after colonization. There were always those kids that said they had 1% native blood, but I don't even think I ever met students that identified themselves as culturally belonging to any tribe. I knew nothing about the treaties, what reservations were like, the spiritual oppression, residential schools, and the list of other things the US and Canada did to try and erase them. I learned all of that on my own time. I learned a lot of the truth on my own time, and I worry for the people who never took the time to learn anything more than what their small town taught them.
And then in Washington I was taught about the evil white man and all the innocent minorities they wronged. The oppression olympics really undermines education. America needs to find a middle ground 🙏
In APUSH we learn all of that... (I'm from Indiana btw)
I'm from Missouri and my family is extremely white looking except sometimes we look sort of yellow but we are a quarter Cherokee but we never practiced any thing or went to Oklahoma to visit family. Kinda weird, but so are ancestry tests and genetics. Most of the people claiming that weird odd 1% are probably wrong, but there is always a chance that Great-great-times a million grandpappy cheated on grandma with an Indian.
In a way on your own time, from native ppl of from Uni if you can is the best way to do it
same here
Oh man I wish you’d actually said the tribal names!
Texas comes from the Caddo word for "friend", IIRC the original word is pronounced like "tay-shas" or something like that. The 'x' is there because that's how the spaniards would have spelled it phonetically I believe, at the time (like 400 years ago). Similar situation with Mexico, except Mexico comes from the Nahuatl language. And I think it is the word the Aztecs used to identify their own people (Mexica, pronounced "me-shi-ka" iirc)
Someone can correct me on this.
You’re correct except that Taysha later went to Spanish as Tejas and the Anglo-Mexican settlers referred to it as Texas basically Caddo->Spanish -> English
@errir4042 yes, I just assumed the change fro x to j happened much later, still begs the question why does english preserve the x if it changed in spanish?
@@_ch1pset It was called both simultaneously, Tejas/Texas were both valid spellings under Spanish rule.
@errir4042 Both Texas and Tejas were correct in the Spanish of those times, same case as México and Méjico
Yes, that's where the name Mexico comes from
Imagine if someone butchered your name, then managed to get it put on all your official paperwork, and made you famous later on so that everyone knew and said your name the wrong way, forever? Oof.
It’s just what happens naturally when names are used in different languages.
That is literally what happened when would my ancestors immigrated to America
@@Alucard_Ander I feel bad for laughing now.
That's the entirety of Western civilisation with every name ever, what are you talking about?
Same point as other commenter above: we aren't choosy in America, we will happily butcher any language however we like. We don't even like being consistent about it. Visiting another Missouri town in the 90s, I had to ask for directions, but struggled, because the street names were all French, but I didn't know how exactly the regional folks had chosen to butcher them. (There was never a question as to whether or not they had butchered them. That was a given.)
“Idaho” actually doesn’t come from any native languages or indigenous cultures. It was a completely made up word that was used to increase for the campaign for statehood
I find that native words for places are often very poetic in meaning.
Minnesota is for mni sota mackoce and it means land where the clear water flows or something like that.
Pretty sure Arkansas is also rooted in a Native American word? Interesting video!
This was lovely to learn!
I heard Iowa was actually a derogatory term that a tribe gave the people that actually lived there. It’s funny cause here in our schools a lot they tell the kids that means land or something else stupid like that
“Beautiful land” is what I was taught in school. I’m not surprised it was made up. “Sleepy ones” doesn’t fit the hard-working midwestern mythos very well. I know there was a tribe called the Ioway. Living History Farms near Des Moines has reconstructed bark houses and some demonstrations of their farming methods.
@@elisabethphdioway is apparently another name for the baxoje mentioned in the short
Part 2, please!!
if you're from new england, 7 times outta 10 your towns name is also of native origin
The other 3 times out of 10, it’s just a place name from old england
In western NY, many, many of our towns and roads have native origins. To those of us growing up here, they are familiar and most of us can spell them, but out of towners can never pronounce, let alone spell them. Tonawanda is easy, but Scajaquada is tough. I just asked my husband how to spell the very familiar Buffalo expressway and he answered, “the 198.”
And lots of rivers. When one linguistic group arrives (& takes over) names of geographic features often retain a form based upon the Indigenous word.
Sometimes what a Nation was & is called depends upon who the French (English, Dutch) asked “and who are those people on the other side (of the river, mountains, etc.).” Sometimes the answer was not complimentary. Native English speakers can often spot French renditions - Illinois, Iroquois, …. I wonder what we would call & spell Houdenosaunee (a/k/a “Iroquois”) if the French had asked the Great Council of that Confederation first?
Florida isn't on here because the name originates from the spanish meaning "place of flowers", for anyone curious
I’ve been thinking about this recently. I always knew about Ohio but thinking about states like Wyoming and Michigan, those aren’t European sounding
michigan is great lake in ojibwe except its not the real spelling. wyoming could be algonquian because ojibwe likes to end place names with ng like in ishpaming michigan. so if wyoming is algonquian then it could be referring to a place
then in Japanese Ohaiyo Gozaimasu is a formal way to say hello
I thought Idaho has no origin and is believed to be made up.
Either way, I'm surprised the cities that are as well, like Miami, Manhattan, and Biloxi
in lakota mni means water so minneapolis is actually lakota on the front and greek in the back
You are correct. The word Idaho is made up. The story that it came from an Indian word is a myth. Greetings from Idaho. 😃👍
@markmh835 hello neighbor! 😊 Greetings from Utah
@Shwatso oh dang, I had no idea!! Do you know what Minnesota means then! Land of water or?
@@happyfacefriescloudy water or clear water depending on how you pronounce the s. more than half the state names are native american and theyre usually from algonquian or siouan languages. a lot of states in the middle have siouan names like the dakotas and minnesota. then theres a lot of algonquian names like michigan, mississippi, connecticut, massachusetts, wisconsin and illinois. algonquians call a river sipi so big river is mississippi. the same beginning is found in michigan because it means great lake.. and its probably the same beginning for massachusetts too
Very interesting to learn, thank you!
I'd be curious as to what Washington's native name would have been.
How could you skip Tennessee..? The one Cherokee state name that’s origin has been lost, but long presumed to be “where the water meets”
Only state that matters
This doesn’t really count, but apparently Idaho is a complete gibberish word that was made up by a white guy to sound Native American, which makes it my favorite state name for that reason
wait, i thought idaho was a made-up name? there was some story that another state was gonna be named that but it wound up going to the currently named territory
Yes, it was. At some point in the territory naming process for what is now Colorado, one of the delegates suggested "Idaho", claiming it was an Indian term that meant "gem of the mountains". It was already being used for a mining town (now Idaho springs, Colorado) in the area. A later delegate found out that the name was made up and suggested the name "Colorado" instead.
A few years later, the various delegates in charge of the territories remembered the name Idaho and its supposed meaning, but forgot that the name was made up. The name then went to the now state of Idaho.
Source: isb.idaho.gov/wp-content/uploads/The_Naming_of_Idaho_1283.pdf
@ that’s exactly the story i was recalling. thank you for the confirmation and source
"We were all...
"Wounded...
"At Wounded Knee"
"You and me."
I see this in so many places ❤️
Lake Weohyakapka is a lake 10 miles east of Lake Wales, FL. The 7500+ acre lake has a maximum depth of 12 feet. Its Anglicised name is Walk-in-the-Water, because it is so shallow, and the gradient of the lake bottom is so small, you can walk into it for 100 yards and the water is only waist deep or less.
There are alot of beautiful places on that side of the county. I wonder how long those places will be around? I'm a native of Pok County and Lakeland, and its getting too crowded.
@@johngavin1175 There's lots of land east of Haines City, Lake Wales, and Frostproof. A lot of land between Frostproof and Ft. Meade, and between Lake Wales and Bartow.
@lazaruslazuli6130 I know. I just wonder how long it will be before all that,and the Green Swamp will be developed. I hope never.
I wish my state, Washington, had a cool
Native American name
plenty of cities have native american names
plenty of the cities there have native american names
Postal code 'CS' for Coast Salish, named after the collective term for (most of the) tribes living here for 9K+ years prior. I'd love that :)
Washington is one of the coolest state names imo…but we have TONS of cities and towns alike to at have indian names
you could be like Idaho and make up a fake name
Have you ever looked at the Massachusetts state flag?
the state i live in isn’t included but states that are significant to my heritage (on both my Native and white family) are so that’s neat
I think it's important to remember that a large portion of the Dakota indigenous went by Lakota and not Dakota
New Jersey is obviously an English name based on the Island of Jersey. We just... needed a Peninsula of Jersey too. But many of our towns and cities have indigenous names too! Ramapough, Manasquan and Mantoloking to name a few.
I live in a state named after Charles II. I think the people that received the land grants from him named it after him.
Arkansas - French version of Quapaw
Didn't know my state of Michigan was one, good to know 😊
Many of the rivers, towns & lakes are also aboriginal names. Actually, this means that the lands belong to the aboriginal people - the American Indians. Since there was no change in names , everything still belongs to us. Therefore, our women must stand up and claim our inheritance- which we never gave away. This is the land of the Matriarchs- the tribal men never had the right to sell, lease or make treaties regarding this land-North & South America. Hear what I’m saying- the Truth!
North and South Dakota are directly north of Oklahoma, not west. Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota and North Dakota are just a belt cutting through the middle of the country.
The Dakotas are further west than Oklahoma? 🤨🤔
The other half are Spanish. Florida, Colorado, Nevada, Montana
Youre telling me New Jersey isn't included? LOL just playing, i couldnt help it
As someone from Iowa, I am pretty sleepy a good 50% of the time.
Arizona’s name is still mysterious. It could be a Basque word.
I mean...where did the land come from? At least we sort of kept the names they gave it.
While Washington itself isn't an indigenous-derived name, many if not most of the city and town names are. Seattle, Puyallup, Issaquah, Yakima, etc. Even my elementary school was named after an indigenous tribe.
I'm from maine our state is named for the duchy in France but most of our counties and rivers have wabanaki names
I like how only the French names are apparently butchered, the English ones are perfectly acceptable
all over the highways next to the Allegheny and Ohio rivers is Seneca writing even outside of the res down to olean they have Seneca writing
With no disrespect but the "S" in Illinois is silent
Wait what was New Mexico named after?
I know, right!!!
Mexico is derived from the mexica people (meh-she-ka). They were the ones that built tenochtitlan and it means people of the navel/belly button.
Not here to talk about anything but geography. You'll find the Dakotas due north of Oklahoma, as opposed to the "further west" you described them as. A good and informative video nonetheless
You left out Arkansas from the list 😭
You included Kansas but not Arkansas? Both state names come from the same word…
Idaho isn't actually based on any indigenous word or name, it was made up intentionally to sound like one though.
From what I know, Idaho is actually a completely made up word that was meant to sound like a native word.
Bummed that Mass made it but not CT. But u know can be perfect all of the time
Arkansas always being left out of this conversation
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Quapaw
ngl i thought arizona had spanish origins because wasnt it owned by mexico at somepoint
Idaho was later revealed to not be Native American at all, just random gibberish a guy claimed to be a Native American word
Hawaii is "butchered"?? How did they pronounce it wrong?
@@YaboyAJ_NG probably missing the ʻokina (aka glottal stop) and/or not pronouncing the W more like a V.
@kailuapig I would not exactly call that butchering
@ missing the ʻokina is missing an entire letter and it's certainly grating on the ears of any Hawaiian speaker.
Um, if you go due south from eastern or middle Dakota you'll reach Oklahoma. So they're not farther west.
Not even gonna say ARKANSAS
Why this Kansas but this is not Ar-Kansas? AMERICA EXPLAIN!!
It’s ironic that this video is about language or at least names, but you don’t know the difference between “farther“ and “further.“ Hint: “further“ it’s for non-physical distance, like “I’m going to take this a step further, and presume that you didn’t pay too much attention in English class.““ California is farther east than Hawaii.”
What a funny coincidence, I wonder why?
Indiana is sort of, kind of, somewhat of native origin.
Is there a point
There isn't. But it might impress a 2nd grader in your life if you bring it up
I live in Utah. Of course, its name comes from the Ute tribe. It wasn’t named for the Mormons, the Salt Lake, or the red rock desert country.
The Ohio River seems like a good river 👍
Meanwhile, Florida, Nevada, Colorado, Arizona, and (debatably) California have Spanish names.
Knew for sure Washington would NOT make the list 😆😬
Minnesota, land of many lakes
Different language = different sound system (phonology)
I would not say that these names are butchered.
Hey, my boyfriend is choctaw! That's cool!
The S in Illinois is silent my dude the whole its french should of told you that.
New Mexico isnt that native to me,maybe im wrong
Virginia?
Mind blown
West Virginia was going to be named Kanawha
Im shocked that oregon isn't of native origin, at least where I lie in ~~portland~~ there are alot of areas very close with names of native origin, like the willamate, and alot of counties or neighborhoods, so for a long time I assumed that oregon was drived from a native word.
My hometown is Ponchatoula, native for "Hanging Hair" for the moss hanging in the trees.
Well, if you steal everything, why not the names …
the story for Hawaiʻi is pretty interesting because it originally only described the largest island in the archipelago, but since that's the island that ended up conquering the islands, all the islands are known as Hawaiian
Excuse me, but some of those are butchered SPANISH attempts first.
Also, those of us in central time don't consider Ohio to be Midwestern.
You don’t…use…the. nm
Where is Pennsylvanian
i mean hawaii isn’t native american per se but yeah
Oh God, Oklahoma's name feel so racist
Illinois not *illinoyss* people don’t call the Iroquois *iricoyss* so I literally don’t get why they sound like a snake when they say Illinois
Nobody knows for sure where Oregon came from.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Ohiofinalboss is proud
I thought Ohio meant “poor white people”
Mf going to be mad when they find out that Oklahoma means red people
Fun fact, Idaho isn't just a butchering of a name, it was just completely made up
Canada too
Noice! 🪶👌🏽
New Mexico really?
Land Back
Names is all what colonizer left. The rest of the continent still have natives. English/Spaniards