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  • @dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd
    @dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd Рік тому +96

    Warhammer Fantasy was kept alive thanks to Total War Warhammer and by extension Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay. Now its back as the Old World😎.

    • @livefromtheblacklibrary
      @livefromtheblacklibrary  Рік тому +9

      GUESS WHOS BACK
      BACK AGAIN

    • @dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd
      @dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd Рік тому +10

      40k and sigmar : we thought you where dead
      fantasy : my death was greatly exaggerated

    • @garethholman1050
      @garethholman1050 Рік тому +7

      Total war and the 9th age/Warhammer Armies Project kepth the fantasy flame burning.

    • @johnhamilton6768
      @johnhamilton6768 Рік тому +2

      Greed and bad rules finished 8th edition really saying fantasy wasn't selling enough is a joke not just because the sheer volume of models needed but all the army books for each faction even if you never got the faction you got their book so you could read up on their rules! Forcing Hordes onto newer players would no doubt have chased of many would be players also 1 regiment of 50-100 models was essential to be able to even stand your ground in a battle! I'm not sure how many 8th players will come back after how GW did some amazing characters dirty (cough...tyrion.. cough) I'm wanting to give it a go but the clear lack of support from GW has me cautious with my and my kids warchest time and reviews will tell I guess!

    • @fckprc8149
      @fckprc8149 Рік тому +2

      You have not the slightest idea about Warhammer Fantasy! A video game did not keep it alive. It is the thousands of player in 9th age or Warhammer army project and the ones still playing 8th or older versions. Video gamers don't spend thousands on miniatures, it is the table top players.

  • @imperialguardsman_stell_legion
    @imperialguardsman_stell_legion Рік тому +45

    I hope we get more lore for tilea, estalia and the border princes

    • @livefromtheblacklibrary
      @livefromtheblacklibrary  Рік тому +6

      Yeah I bet we will!

    • @mcyolicjones9081
      @mcyolicjones9081 Рік тому

      A lot going on there. Crusades to free Estalia from Araby who had invaded. So many Knights riding South they actually establish the Border Princes at this time. Major clashes with Greenskins I'm sure.

  • @roccorumiano5031
    @roccorumiano5031 Рік тому +50

    It always baffled me that they didn’t foresee Warhammer Fantasy getting a huge popularity boost from one of the best selling rts franchises of all time. The end times and age of sigmar just seem weirdly timed and like GW didn’t have a finger on the pulse

    • @raptonsoul2557
      @raptonsoul2557 Рік тому +13

      hindsight is 20/20

    • @ExValeFor
      @ExValeFor Рік тому +15

      GW, like many other corporations, absolutely excel at making just the worst decision possible and at having consumers bail them out with their wallets because after decades of plastic slavery they are now a captive audience

    • @mogwaiman6048
      @mogwaiman6048 Рік тому +7

      Playing total war doesn't mean buying models. Most of the TW crowd isn't playing TOW.

    • @commentarytalk1446
      @commentarytalk1446 Рік тому +5

      WH Old World had so many decades of lore and assets, the Age of Sigmar moderning imho is just such a bad idea to throw that all away... well it's proven because as you say Warhammer made a video game brilliant with it's lore and world building and all the details of various armies for combat.
      And lo! Based on that a return of Old World.
      People talk about 3D Printing minis these days I but I think grabbing the digital models themselves and playing WH digitally is probably the future - because fans can just run everything without a corporate mess being made by the company GW... time will tell.

    • @JMoon1231
      @JMoon1231 Рік тому +2

      ​@@mogwaiman6048there are so many people that got in to 40k from Dawn of War. I'm sure there would be tons of people that would have gotten in to fantasy if it was available.

  • @ogrynmod1765
    @ogrynmod1765 Рік тому +17

    The fact that we will know almost everything about Warhammer fantasy's history up to aos is insane

  • @obscure-cultist1709
    @obscure-cultist1709 Рік тому +13

    It’s also worth keeping in mind the Vermintide games as well as Total War. People really seemed to latch on to the Ubersreik Five and their adventures against the skaven

    • @livefromtheblacklibrary
      @livefromtheblacklibrary  Рік тому +3

      HOW DID I FORGET VERMINTIDE

    • @xdragoonzero0
      @xdragoonzero0 10 місяців тому

      The Ubersreik Five makes me hope that the new RPG works to both allow both "died getting stabbed by a beggar" and "died fighting off hordes of goblins and orcs alone" styles of games.

  • @LGMUFO
    @LGMUFO Рік тому +8

    Just wanted to say that as someone who consumes daily amounts of Warhammer UA-cam content, and a massive, massive fan of The Black Library.. that you are fast becoming one of my top Warhammer UA-camrs, and I'm excited to see your channel grow!

  • @drysocks4412
    @drysocks4412 Рік тому +14

    I'm hoping for some of the dark horses of the franchise to shine; Tilea, Estalia, the Border Princes, Albion, and the life. Maybe if we are lucky we'll get to see some untouched Solland lore.

    • @livefromtheblacklibrary
      @livefromtheblacklibrary  Рік тому

      SAME! This is such a good opportunity for them to explore the setting more

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 2 місяці тому

      Every Warhammer universe had a ton of factions which would have made amazing armies and stories, but GW forgot that you occasionally need to spend money to make money.

  • @theeternalchronicler3072
    @theeternalchronicler3072 Рік тому +7

    Cathay is coming to the old world just not now but a bit later.

  • @jeancreamintime5633
    @jeancreamintime5633 Рік тому +8

    i hope they eventually do a "what if" scenario where the end times dont happen, and they make new models for all the old characters like karl franz, gotrek and felix, grimgor, tyrion and teclis, etc. or at least make new models and let people run them as legends.

    • @livefromtheblacklibrary
      @livefromtheblacklibrary  Рік тому +1

      I wouldn’t hold my breath for that to happen and imo it might distract from the setting itself

    • @matthewpurling5179
      @matthewpurling5179 Рік тому +1

      Yeah that would be admitting fault. They should but they should just bring the world back. But to me the Warhammer world never was destroyed. I don’t allow canon from companies that I totally disagree with.

  • @TheHobgoblyn
    @TheHobgoblyn Рік тому +2

    The team working on The Old World has already said that Cathay IS going to be introduced in The Old World. It just isn't going to be available at the launch of the game. But the book for it has already been written and the Total War Warhammer III Cathay is based on it.

  • @rhuulu110
    @rhuulu110 Рік тому +3

    The one thing I've been most curious about is change in technology ...for example are the knights still in full plate or have they regressed to chainmail and are handgunners of various factions going to use longbows and crossbows instead since the setting it going back in time by like 200-300 years? Or will they still have same technology because there ''high middle ages'' lasted way longer than our real world one.

  • @Mikester88
    @Mikester88 Рік тому +3

    WHFB was my entry into warhammer and where it all started. Loved playing some regimental warfare on the floor. Floorfare!

    • @livefromtheblacklibrary
      @livefromtheblacklibrary  Рік тому +1

      Ohhhh that sounds so nostalgic! What was your army of choice?

    • @Mikester88
      @Mikester88 Рік тому +1

      @@livefromtheblacklibrary i think i started with skaven, or that was my first big force at least. Had to buy plague monks in blister-packs of three metal figs. I also collected some vampire counts but I don't think i ever finished/played with them.

    • @livefromtheblacklibrary
      @livefromtheblacklibrary  Рік тому +1

      Good choices! I’m unsure on which faction I’d want!

    • @Mikester88
      @Mikester88 Рік тому

      @@livefromtheblacklibrary I bet the box stuff will be a great starting point. But you are not starved for choice with whfb, they all got their charm.

  • @achromicwhite2309
    @achromicwhite2309 Рік тому +1

    "No Teclis"... You sure about that?

  • @lachlanevans5013
    @lachlanevans5013 Рік тому +1

    2:07 in fairness to him there are worst names to be given in warhammer.
    Malus darkblades last name literally translates to bad quality sword in druchii society as Dark meant basically badly made(which is ironic consider they were the dark elves).

  • @thechefhans739
    @thechefhans739 Рік тому +4

    Great video, I've been interested in the Old World lore and I'm only really familiar with some of the Gotrek and Felix stuff, but it doesn't really get into too much of the deeper stuff.

    • @livefromtheblacklibrary
      @livefromtheblacklibrary  Рік тому +1

      Gotrek and Felix are the Eisenhorn of Fantasy in that they were a lot of peoples gateway. Hope this video helped you find where to start! 🧡

    • @thechefhans739
      @thechefhans739 Рік тому

      @@livefromtheblacklibrary Yes! I'd love for you to give reading recommendations for both Old World and 40K (preferably easily accessible and affordable stuff in paper if at all possible.)

  • @bwtrader
    @bwtrader Рік тому +1

    Those massive fantasy battles on UA-cam are fantastic..

  • @Windows7enjoyer
    @Windows7enjoyer Рік тому +13

    Fantasy Battle always had better characters than 40k. Maybe not as deep and fleshed out like the Primarchs but they are certainly more charismatic. I'd pick Gelt, Settra or Saltzpyre over any of the Primarchs any day of the week.

  • @garethholman1050
    @garethholman1050 Рік тому +5

    Ikit Claw successfully took Skavenblight for clan Skryre during the 2nd Skaven civil war during this period.
    Fantasy wasn't really supported and there were far too many old models across facions with some such as the Bretonians being entirely neglected.

    • @roccorumiano5031
      @roccorumiano5031 Рік тому +2

      I bet he had a huge advantage having that level 5 settlement by turn 3

    • @garethholman1050
      @garethholman1050 Рік тому

      @@roccorumiano5031 plus access to those Jezzails early! ;)

  • @benjamintrejo9307
    @benjamintrejo9307 Рік тому +5

    Love your channel

  • @jamescairns8428
    @jamescairns8428 Рік тому +1

    For someone new to Warhammer fantasy lore, you told a very good yarn!~

  • @mohamedmaiza3866
    @mohamedmaiza3866 8 місяців тому +1

    Teclis was around then

  • @remusventanus5341
    @remusventanus5341 Рік тому +1

    Great video. Hope you give Fantasy more coverage. Cheers

    • @livefromtheblacklibrary
      @livefromtheblacklibrary  Рік тому

      I’ll try but the algorithm ain’t loving it XD I’ll need to release them alongside 40k videos like a day after

  • @willv5300
    @willv5300 Рік тому +2

    Talks about Tileans: shows Estalians.
    Just nitpicking here, great video. It made me beyond excited for the setting and I hope we'll get new BL books for it!

  • @ryancrazyrhino8976
    @ryancrazyrhino8976 Рік тому +9

    I want to get into Warhammer Old World because I love it's lore over whatever AOS is doing and I think it's more immersive and interesting that 40k especially now but I struggle to find motivation to get into Old World because I know how it ends and it sours the experience for me , because I know the world going going to end because of some Merry Sue dickhead and then be replaced with what's basically a 40k reskin.
    I hope I can get over that fact because I want to see this series do well.

    • @livefromtheblacklibrary
      @livefromtheblacklibrary  Рік тому +2

      Yeah that’s what bummed people out, it has a really grounded vibe but AoS just has so much going on it can be hard to decipher

    • @ryancrazyrhino8976
      @ryancrazyrhino8976 Рік тому +2

      @Live! From The Black Library also AOS lacks human diversity in culture, in AOS the humans are only for a lack of a better term imperial and the fact they have Space Marines and worship a **God Emperor** doesn't help them.
      In Fantasy the Human races had different countries and cultures and it made all of them super interesting and fun to read about

  • @supremercommonder
    @supremercommonder Рік тому +5

    I hope we get expansions on factions like araby and Ind ect

    • @livefromtheblacklibrary
      @livefromtheblacklibrary  Рік тому

      Yeah same though I doubt Ind or Cathay will happen

    • @supremercommonder
      @supremercommonder Рік тому +2

      @@livefromtheblacklibrary I get they might try avoid them incase of offending anyone. However getting kinda tired of the single Eurocentric culture representing humans. I don’t mean that in a offensive way. You have every culture of Europe represented.

  • @legionaireb
    @legionaireb Рік тому

    LFTBL: NEWS FLASH! The Old World takes place in the time of The Three Emperors!
    Me: I'd never have thought that two and a half years ago...

  • @scathliath
    @scathliath Рік тому

    Hey, not just reminiscent of the 3rd century crisis; Looking at you Cardinal Richelieu.

  • @CaptainRellius
    @CaptainRellius Рік тому +1

    😂😂😂bro that SpongeBob reference great stuff

  • @parkermaisterra8532
    @parkermaisterra8532 Рік тому +2

    I would absolutely adore to get some Araby and maybe even some Estalia units

    • @livefromtheblacklibrary
      @livefromtheblacklibrary  Рік тому

      YEAHHH ESPECIALLY ARABY

    • @parkermaisterra8532
      @parkermaisterra8532 Рік тому +1

      @@livefromtheblacklibrary They *really* should since from how this time period has been described its basically the Dark Ages but if thats the case then Araby should be going through what is essentially the Islamic Golden age. So for Araby we could see stuff like superior technology, advance magic that would be leagues better than anything other humans in the Old World would have at the time, and Cavlary skills the Brettonians would *never* have encountered before from other human civilizations. Seriously Araby does have a lot of potential

    • @livefromtheblacklibrary
      @livefromtheblacklibrary  Рік тому

      Absolutely! They also have a few named characters like Sultan Jaffar, I’d love to see a fantasy equivalent to Saladin too!

  • @connorsmith1005
    @connorsmith1005 Рік тому +1

    The less Nehekara the better. Oh wow Egyptian skeletons so unique and interesting. We totally have never heard of those before.

    • @livefromtheblacklibrary
      @livefromtheblacklibrary  Рік тому

      Thats…fair

    • @matthewpurling5179
      @matthewpurling5179 Рік тому +2

      It’s not just Egyptian skeletons - what’s your saying is just like saying “the less Empire the better, oh wow Renaissance humans so unique and interesting, we totally have never heard of those before”

  • @ogrynmod1765
    @ogrynmod1765 Рік тому +1

    There's a veeeery small chance for a young thorgrim. Which I hope we will get

  • @DCJMS
    @DCJMS Рік тому +1

    Glory to MIddenheim

  • @HereticalKitsune
    @HereticalKitsune Рік тому +2

    When I played Fantasy it was back in the early to mid 2000s. First came across AoS on a Games Day years ago, GW presenting proudly their new Stormcasts and I wasn't interested at all in fantasy Space Marines. So seeing my childhood return is nice for sure.

  • @CrimsonTemplar2
    @CrimsonTemplar2 Рік тому +6

    This really reinforces my belief that they’re going to go Empire vs Empire in the launch box, just like Age of Darkness (aka HH2). Generic men at arms & cavalry that you can paint up how you like. Two different general minis (great sword vs sword & board). Maybe throw in a steam tank & a dude on a hippogriff.

    • @livefromtheblacklibrary
      @livefromtheblacklibrary  Рік тому +1

      I hope they have enough variation between them to make it worth it

    • @JackRabbit002
      @JackRabbit002 Рік тому +2

      This was my idea too similar to the Heresy stuff. Just with the reveals focusing on Tomb Kings and Bretonnia I really feel that will be the starter now!

    • @livefromtheblacklibrary
      @livefromtheblacklibrary  Рік тому +1

      Yeah probably! They’re fan favourites!

    • @arvid1190
      @arvid1190 Рік тому

      There's no way. A lot of people find the regular humans boring (sad to say as an empire player lol), and there's a reason why every box set so far in the game's history has been two very different races. Empire v orcs, high elves v skaven, dwarfs v goblins

  • @LazzarrusLong
    @LazzarrusLong Рік тому +2

    00:03 This is quirky goodness

    • @livefromtheblacklibrary
      @livefromtheblacklibrary  Рік тому +1

      My other channel is making memes and dubs, gotta put the skill to use somehow 🤣

    • @LazzarrusLong
      @LazzarrusLong Рік тому +2

      @@livefromtheblacklibrary Understandable and love it.
      Keep up the good work! 🫡

  • @fumarc4501
    @fumarc4501 Рік тому

    Liking to encourage more warhammer fantasy comparison videos!

  • @oldeskul
    @oldeskul Рік тому

    What also pushed GW to put the kibosh on Warhammer Fantasy Battles was that they got the rights to the Lord of the Rings universe and started publishing Middle-Earth Strategy Battle Game.

  • @danmorris5498
    @danmorris5498 Рік тому

    Teclis should come in during the great war against chaos, if I'm not mistaken after that he founded the colleges of magic.

  • @LordFargothUr
    @LordFargothUr Рік тому +2

    Can’t wait for this

  • @cortofredudu
    @cortofredudu Рік тому

    To complement the not well selling of WFB, the game was 30 years old, there where no real range refresh with upscale minis (unlike primaris or else) so many veteran players didn't need to renew their collections and in general games struggled to seduce new blood because of self concurrence with Lord of the rings who was coming on screens and tabletop.

  • @lostsanityreturned
    @lostsanityreturned Рік тому +3

    I hope they keep it mid fantasy in tone and don't try and force AoS style stuff into the old world... but I am in general quite excited. I always wanted to get into warhammer fantasy but never did.

    • @livefromtheblacklibrary
      @livefromtheblacklibrary  Рік тому

      Yeah same but I have faith they’ll keep the vibe in check. It’s a lot of why people wanted it back and I think they recognize that

  • @IanCampbell-r2v
    @IanCampbell-r2v Рік тому +1

    Im pretty sure that Cathay has been confirmed to be in the old world. Also I thought that the old world was referring to "old" as in, before aos, as much as "old world" the continent.

    • @Sara3346
      @Sara3346 Рік тому

      Fantasys equivalent of Erupoe has always been called the Old World by the human and Dwarf factions it just doens't come up too much because so much is set their that differentiating it from cathay, or naggoroth or lustria , etc isn't usually needed.

  • @theeternalchronicler3072
    @theeternalchronicler3072 Рік тому +2

    All armies and units that were in 8th edition will make a return in the old world.

    • @livefromtheblacklibrary
      @livefromtheblacklibrary  Рік тому

      They’ll be rules compatible but I’m talking about new models and possibly books

  • @Turnil321
    @Turnil321 Рік тому

    I do hope to see more of Marienburg.

  • @Anton-cc7yc
    @Anton-cc7yc Рік тому

    To be honest, I only wait for the Old World because of Kislev - their models will be perfect for kitbashing proper Vostroyans.

  • @cairocopper3238
    @cairocopper3238 Рік тому +3

    I'm a bit unsure about this. Cool moment of history, but I just think it is a huge mistake to not lean into the success of the Total War game, especially when it's bringing new people in.
    Gonna be disappointing for a few to get in with Total war and find out the lord or faction they liked isn't there.

    • @livefromtheblacklibrary
      @livefromtheblacklibrary  Рік тому

      Yeah that’s gonna bum people out for sure :( I think they wanted to give people more variety and even so if it isn’t working they can always expand into The End Times as well

  • @joaogabrielsilvadarosa9734
    @joaogabrielsilvadarosa9734 Рік тому

    I really, really want to get invested into Warhammer Fantasy lore (hell, even Age of Sigmar I would love to get into), specially because I'm more of a Fantasy fan than a Sci-Fi one (despite still enjoying Warhammer 40K). But I couldn't find any good introductory video to the lore of the setting, only videos that talked about big events and battles of the lore, but with no proper context (if anyone reading the comments see this, please share here, I would gladly check it out). I hope that, with the release of The Old World and people getting interested in learning more about the setting (from beginning, middle and end), this could incentivize people into introducing the setting to newbies, like me.

  • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
    @PelinalDidNothingWrong Рік тому +2

    The Old World looks tempting...but no Skaven :*(

  • @akumaking1
    @akumaking1 Рік тому +1

    I think it would be easier to just use a program like NinjaRipper to extract the in-game models from Total Warhammer to create new minis.

  • @sebastianhovenas272
    @sebastianhovenas272 Рік тому

    Yo wtf? Where's Gorbad Ironclaw at?

  • @Mrwarfull
    @Mrwarfull Рік тому +1

    Yesssss come on empire of man!

  • @psychokozel9916
    @psychokozel9916 Рік тому

    Skavenblight will-shall rise again!

  • @kengc3
    @kengc3 Рік тому +1

    Moar Warhammer Fantasy/Old World! MOAR

  • @stevesteverson
    @stevesteverson Рік тому

    I'd like maybe the Norsca.

  • @johnhamilton6768
    @johnhamilton6768 Рік тому +2

    Greed and bad rules finished 8th edition really saying fantasy wasn't selling enough is a joke not just because the sheer volume of models needed but all the army books for each faction even if you never got the faction you got their book so you could read up on their rules! Forcing Hordes onto newer players would no doubt have chased of many would be players also 1 regiment of 50-100 models was essential to be able to even stand your ground in a battle! I'm not sure how many 8th players will come back after how GW did some amazing characters dirty (cough...tyrion.. cough) I'm wanting to give it a go but the clear lack of support from GW has me cautious with my and my kids warchest time and reviews will tell I guess!

  • @ashslaa
    @ashslaa Рік тому

    I hope we get the great cannon back for the empire, I miss my hunking great cannon.
    Yeah they have the hell storm and hell fire in age of sigmar, but they just never felt the same as that juice great cannon or morter.
    I can (grudging) forgo the handgunners if GW opt's not to have them back, but please GW bring back the great cannon with the old world, please.

  • @gunthergiel7088
    @gunthergiel7088 Рік тому +2

    Man I hope GW don't drop it 6 month after launch...

  • @ValentineCorp
    @ValentineCorp Рік тому

    Where is the map @3:28 from?

  • @leothewhiteranger
    @leothewhiteranger 6 місяців тому

    I remember hearing you saying your fantasy videos don't do as good. Well, +1 view then, this is great.

  • @dagon99
    @dagon99 Рік тому +3

    Neat

  • @RRR-ew6jx
    @RRR-ew6jx Рік тому

    Teclis was there...

  • @emanuelursan8047
    @emanuelursan8047 Рік тому +1

    I hope we can play ogres kingdoms

  • @UnknownOrc
    @UnknownOrc Рік тому +1

    So its old old old world!?

    • @livefromtheblacklibrary
      @livefromtheblacklibrary  Рік тому +1

      More or less!

    • @UnknownOrc
      @UnknownOrc Рік тому +1

      @@livefromtheblacklibrary I hope you are wrong about IND and Cathy. I want to see both of them getting revived in tabletop. 😀

    • @livefromtheblacklibrary
      @livefromtheblacklibrary  Рік тому +1

      Same! Now’s the perfect chance to get them in!

  • @ozzfan1974
    @ozzfan1974 Рік тому +2

    Age of sigmar models so unique? They are literally space marines. The models are crap.

    • @Sara3346
      @Sara3346 Рік тому

      Hatred makes people say dumb things huh? AOS has a ton of factions that bear no ressemblance to space marines. Ioneth Deepkin, Gargants, the flesheater courts, none of these even have a 40k equivalent.

  • @micquprmicqu7213
    @micquprmicqu7213 11 місяців тому

    WHF being saved by Total War is exaggeration
    Yes you may feel like it, looking from your direction, but RPG was being developed constantly.
    If you want to play the game competetively, by tournament rules you need to use GW figures, so no knockoffs, no 3D printing.
    Not to mention that 8th edition brought canonical end to the setting, which only made players upset (because it genuinely sucked - so no wonder they did not buy figures.
    Infact - GW wanted to end WHF WAAAAY earlier. Huge event in which people could personally participate was released, and campaign was booted, to clash good with evil. Archaon took his hordes and raided south, but ... problem was that Empire got adventage. Submitted battle outcomes (people played in stores, and submitted wins and loses contributed to the final outcome) made law and order thrive and GW could not destroy the Empire the way they wanted.
    Second edition of WFRP campaign begins in Middenheim devastated by invasion.
    Hope you'll research the matter and release some new, better version with correct informations because many many things are misinterpreted.

  • @howardjohnson9239
    @howardjohnson9239 15 днів тому

    Would’ve been better without all the foul language, and by the way Manfred was called the rat slayer

  • @That_Rat_Bastrd
    @That_Rat_Bastrd 18 днів тому

    Shallow understanding of the lore ✅
    Bad jokes ✅
    Misinformation ✅
    Poor audio balance ✅
    Predictions not just wrong but the logic behind them completely wrong too ✅
    Yikes

  • @thesmilyguyguy9799
    @thesmilyguyguy9799 Рік тому

    :)

  • @Itisoverthere-rw
    @Itisoverthere-rw Рік тому

    I want to see your opinion with the recent news and how disappointing it ended up being.