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Blepharoplasty (Eyelid Surgery|Hooded Eyes) - Review & 2nd Opinion
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
- This is the penultimate video in the Blepharoplasty series/journey - this is reporting back on my 4 month review appointment with my surgeon, and also my 2nd opinion appointment with another surgeon and company.
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Oh Karen. You have dealt with this in such a dignified manner. I totally get it. You have spent a lot of money on something that you feel like you didn't receive. I don't think you'd feel as short changed if you had been treated with the respect you deserve.
I know you are disappointed and understandably so but you look absolutely lovely and you have such a fizzy, fun and lighthearted personality despite your condition which must be wearing at times.
I think you are doing the right thing in complaining. Some surgeons really do have a God like complex and never expect to be challenged. He didn't cure your hooded eyes and you have accepted that but he has left you with something that is making you even more self conscious. That needs to be taken way more seriously. He should be finding out what that is and working on a solution not cracking jokes and labelling it with a nickname.
Sending you lots of love. Keep us updated and I hope you get at least a partial refund to pay for the Botox. X
Karen, pretty sure we all understand the difference between needs and wants in life, that is not to say you do not deserve to wang visible eyelids. Prase don't sell yourself short. 😘
just a note- I’m not seeking compensation specifically from Spire Healthcare, I’m not even going to ask for it but I AM going to complain about how he dealt with the medical issue of my right eye droop. I made a comment in the video saying the only way I could afford a brow lift would be if I got compensation which I simply meant if it was offered which is unlikely! I DO think it would have been a “gesture” to offer a partial refund to cover the Botox that will be required to allow me to take photos as I could before the video BUT I don’t think this is something I’m due. I’m not sad or angry at all, quite the opposite - I’m blessed to have had the opportunity to have the surgery & think after the Botox I’ll love it but even if I don’t it’s ok cause there are so many other more pressing issues in my life, how my eyes look is of very low importance. These videos are so detailed because I want to help other people to have all the information & know the risks. X
Mrs Ginger Beauty i enjoy all your videos. very informative. thank you pretty lady. hi watson xxx.
BBSM surgeon I have had three ops with is Mr Johnson in Derby. Plus he is hot.
Mrs Ginger Beauty I would definitely complain.
@@badfairy9554 which surgey is this in derby .
I'd get an eye specialist to write a letter stating that this surgeon made a mistake when he did your eyes, he may have nicked the nerve slightly. An eye specialist would know
At this point I think it is more of a neural problem to me.
Good advice! Jennifer 😄
Doctors are thick as thieves. Don't think one will easily go against another in this ligatious society of ours. Perhaps a legal practice with attorney/doctors would be the route to try?
Hope you find answers to your eyebrow problem. Thank you for a very thorough and honest review. Good luck with the Botox! Xx
I’ve had two unsuccessful rhinoplasties :( I understand your frustration entirely. I wouldn’t want to have further surgery other than correcting my nose because it feels like you fix one thing and create 3 more problems.
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I am so sorry that you've had this experience. Personally, I don't think your surgeon has anything to be cocky about. I think he did nick something when he was working on your right eye and I would definitely pursue that with as many doctors as it takes because you have no idea what the long-term effects might be. When I had my blepharoplasty, at the same time I had what they called a mini brow lift. I had about an inch-long incision just above the temple and behind the hairline on each side. I believe when one goes in for an elective surgery and tells the surgeon what their expectations are, the surgeon has an obligation to tell the patient what the limitations are. Plain and simple. I have never been a litigious person, but in your case, I would probably seek legal advice also.
❤️🌈🦋Hello from New York. I am 37 and had a Blepharoplasty on Monday. I had the surgery under anesthesia and it was all completely free because It was interfering with my eyesight a bit and here in the USA our insurance company pays for this surgery. I can see a huge difference immediately in my eyelids and I am terribly sorry for your experience and want you to know I think your beautiful and love your videos! Stay well 🌻
Hi dear, I’ve just undergone a blepharoplasty and I’ve researched a lot regarding this area of surgery. Have a look at sub-brow lift. It basically lifts and excise your skin just right below your eyebrow instead of lifting your eyebrows (to avoid the surprised look). Not sure how much more invasive surgery your eyes can go through after your procedure. But we have this in Asia and it might be worth it to study what options you got now. I wish for the best outcome and that you’ll manage to find a safe way to get your optimal results. Best regards from Thailand
Thank you for sharing your story and sorry things didn't work out as you had hoped. Loved how you see the brighter side of things and gained confidence 😃.
Karen, I would go to an eye specialist. They know the eye inside out. It's the best option, and do that *before* the Botox, so they can see it as is!
I have filmed it so that if I do need to go to an eye specialist they can see it lol. x
@@TheBeautyMaverick, yes I know, but nothing beats actually being there and being able to touch the affected area, if needed, but if you want to go for Botox first, then that's totally up to you.
I know your heart is set on it, but I would leave well enough alone. It's useless saying you look very pretty but keep it in mind it's a blepheroplasrty. A word to the wise (and you are) Cheers.
I'm sorry it didn't work for you Karen and I think I know how you feel on the confidence issue. I think you look lovely anyway and you don't know what other people really have going on. I know some do have everything I grant you. But I doubt if they all have such a good heart and generous disposition, a huggy dog and a hubby sweet enough to give such a thoughtful gift.
how sweet.
You have such a great attitude towards things, I hope the botox looks great and your happy with the final results! x
Karen, I have pancreatitis and know a few people with EDS.
Please don’t ever feel inferior, you are an amazing woman and as you say, you know your own body and try’s your gut! ❤️
I had the same operation done just a week before you. Your scars are way lower than mine. I had very hooded eyes and they look fine now. Could be brow compensation, but I think he took too little skin from your eyelids. And my surgery cost me only 800 euros and it was done in a good clinic by a plastic surgeon.
I'd be wary about using botox on that droopy eye, the last thing you want is for the muscle to weaken. Sorry you're going through this, you're handling it brilliantly.
I know what you mean but I had Botox for 8 years for droopy eyes lol so I'm quite happy because if it weakens the muscle I have botox in it will actually help - the muscle I will be weakening is the one that pushes the brow down! xx
@@TheBeautyMaverick - But....is it a muscle issue or is it actually nerve damage? I think I would want to know concretely which is was. I am so sorry you have had to deal with this.
Girl, love your honesty. Wish I had seen you before my surgery. Had upper and lower blephroplasty, and braciahioplasty. I am three weeks out, and so disappointed with my hooded eyes. I feel like I have one good big eye, with crappy scarring, and one small puppy dog eye, very hooded. I am trying not to loose my shit over the whole. But, was very depressed yesterday. Decided to quit whining. No more surgery for four months. I am 64, and this is my first surgery. I just wish I had seen you sooner. Anyway, I think you look great, but, sad to say, I know and can see why your unhappy. Please keep doing these videos. Now I am afraid I need Botox or whatever. But, the point of the surgery was not to have to jack with that😩
I’ve had two blepharoplasty operations. One was to fix the other. I regret both and wish I could go back to before
I had a similar experience (result was not that bad though) and my plastic surgeon offered to correct it after 6 months from the first surgery, and now I love the result. If I were you, I would request him to do a revision surgery, otherwise you should post your experience with the name of your surgeon online, so that he is being hold responsible for such a poor result. This is just my opinion.
I'm really happy that you are in a good place after all you've been through. You've dealt with it graciously and professionally so all credit to you. Hoping all goes brilliantly for your botox. Looking forward to seeing the results. I still feel very unsure about botox so I am always interested in your thoughts as I trust your judgement and opinion. Thank you.
Dear Karen, I had the same experience. Before surgery I had a natural very strong overreaction of the frontalis muscle that lifted the eyebrow. After the surgery, the compensation of the frontalis decreased and the eyebrow dropped. The eyes look actually more hooded than before. The only positive thing from the surgery is that now my deep and numerous wrinkles above the eyebrows, caused by the contraction of the frontalis, are smoother. I don’t know what correction I can do. Botox would wrinkle my forehead above the eyebrow. I will discuss with my surgeon on Monday. He also never mentioned the possibility of brow compensation and in my case was obvious given the deep wrinkles above my eyebrow before surgery.
Keep us updated and I hope you get the result you are looking for at the end of this journey, xx
I want this surgery but will you please do an update? Thank you ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I have done several updates! ua-cam.com/video/pfd2mFcdGWQ/v-deo.html
Been watching and enjoying you videos for 6 months now, really enjoy them. Then in today's video you said you have EDS and I thought wow, because i have marfan syndrome which is a connective tissue disorder aswell. Sometimes I think I'm alone with all the problems the conditions brings, but you are such an inspiration . Thank you for all your hard work. Xx
Wow, I know about Marfan, I'm sorry to hear you have that but I'm glad its helped knowing you aren't alone! I've done a few videos on it, and I intend to do more about the drugs and resulting conditions but they are mostly on my other channel - feel free to request any videos and if I can help I will! Hugs, Karen ua-cam.com/channels/IjG3WGxs6TNTHpPzz8oDvw.html
@@TheBeautyMaverick thank you for you kind reply and I will have a think about what videos to request. I've been trying alot of the ordinary, so I have been binge watching all you ordinary videos. You help so much, thank you again and take care, lots of love xx
Just curious, did you tell him about your eye droop before you had the surgery. Since you said you thought botox injections did it. I mean yes, after the surgery it may have caused it to be worse, but maybe he wouldn't have done it at all with that eye droop. The botox injector may have damaged the nerve. Just trying to find an answer for you.
Yes, he was aware. x
I'm so sorry this happened to you. I had mine done not long after you. Mine was done with spire a different hospital different surgeon. My surgeon has been amazing and sound so different to yours. Good luck with whatever you do and hope you get a solution to your droopy eyebrow xx
I had Blepharoplasty surgery because of my eyesight! But I also have brow compensation! I’ve been so nervous about having Botox and have heard that your eyelids can become even more droopy! Sending you blessings and good luck 🍀 with the Botox! Looking forward to seeing your results 💞💋💄
Did you watch Caroline Hirons' eye lift surgery video Karen ? Her eyes don't look any different to me either ( although she is happy and says it was a physical problem for her, where her kids were affecting her vision prior to surgery .)
I'm sorry the results weren't what you wanted. It is definitely something for me to consider before making my attempt to get eyelid surgery. Thank you so very much for your candor during this process. Wishing you luck as you move forward. I'll look forward to seeing a future video after your botox takes effect.
I’m so sorry you have to go through this. We all know how much you were looking forward to getting a good result from the surgery. Remember, you were blessed to have been able to have the surgery, and you are most definitely blessed with a loving and generous husband. That is so much more important than more space on your eyelids. And I don’t mean that to sound like I’m deflating your disappointment. I feel you. It’s just that I have never been lucky in love, and so am still single at 58. Much love and good luck with the Botox. ❤️😘
Thanks Miss Mona - I can't remember which video, but I said exactly this - I feel so lucky to have had the opportunity to have the surgery, and to have a husband do this for me :0) If you watch my video that went up a few days ago, you'll see its now all good! Anyway, regarding love, I'm sorry to hear of your misfortune - if it helps, watch my video on my Dad's wedding - he's just found the love of his life - at 76 years old - they got married last year - its on my channel. x
Mrs Ginger Beauty: Oh, that’s wonderful, on both counts! I’m about a month behind in my video watching, so I’ll have to catch up. I’m thrilled that it all worked out! 💋🇨🇦
So sorry to hear about your surgery issues . Can I make a suggestion ? Perhaps don't bring your brow tail so far down as I think this might help lift your eyes . Love Angie x 💋
Thanks Angie! That's where the brow tail is from the microblading lol, I'm not extending it. x
@@TheBeautyMaverick oh I see ! It's just looking at you straight on they appear to curl round. Anyway no offense intended just my thoughts as I was looking at you. I agree with your comments about spire bupa and felt when I went they weren't qualified sufficiently. Good luck with it all ! Angie x 💋
@@TheBeautyMaverick yes Karen. Try blending the tail of your brow out a little just to see how it would look. All the architecture changes as we age anyway. X
I'm so very sorry for your results. I posted this on your channel before, I had the worst possible outcome...EVER. I went to one of the "prominent" plastic surgeons in Southern California. My right eye was melting down my face like Cyclops. Needless to say, I was beyond distraught. He sent me to an Oculoplastic Surgeon. He actually paid for 2 surgeries from this wonderful, talented man. I will never be 100%, but no one can tell. Please get yourself a eye only surgeon. Get several opinions. Someone the is proficient and professional can and will be able to help you.
You are such a lovely person and you should never feel less than anyone! You have handled this so well and given other people so much insight into this procedure. That is a great service! I hope Watson is doing well. God bless you!
Botox brow lifts never work for me. I was getting a bletheroplasty but this has put me off. It's too risky. I'm just going to get a brow lift.
Sadly, there are never any guarantees regarding any form of plastic surgery. We all rush in hoping for an optimal outcome
yet we are left having to deal with the consequent results. We then have to find a competent surgeon that we entrust to revise the issues left by the primary surgeon. Who already have the excuse that they a revising some other surgeons work, which has resulted in excessive scar tissue. This will compromise the cosmetic outcome. Personally, if you can live with the result you have already, I would. Sadly I am a victim of this cycle of revision surgery with the result of diminished cosmetic outcomes.
Also, I no longer trust the internet one single bit🤯 Mostly lies! Eyes look great in a week, arms looks awesome in 3 days. Like I said, three weeks out, swelling and bruising of eyes, cheeks, arms. I look like hell. Still sleeping in a recliner. Arms still in compression. Oh, arm compression, I think I have nerve damage and swelling from I’ll fitting compression. Just worn down. Thankyou again💕
Sorry this has not worked out for you. I would contact your GP for a referral to a neurologist for your droopy eye. Good luck with your Botox this week, hope it goes well. Xx
Thank you! Thank you again for all the details and information. I know it’s a old video but still very good guidance for us.
Absolutely typical arrogant surgeon reaction. Psychopathic the lot of them.
I'm glad I've seen your story as I am contemplating upper and lower eye surgery, and Im in Scotland so wouldn't want to go to that surgeon. Not saying that in a bad way but the before and after is so minimal I would want them to do it again. Huge hugs to you!!! oxoxo
Sorry you’re having this experience
i had my brows lifted just over my brows by local you cant see the scar
I went to Transform in Manchester for upper & lower in 2008 and they did a fantastic job. I think I had slight brow compensation looking back but that didn't bother me because I had no hood & a more visible eyelid which was what I wanted. Looking forward to seeing if the Botox works for you & that you get something back from Bupa for the nerve issue but I don't think he took enough lid away. Xx
Hey there :)
I would suggest before you do your botox to make an appointment wit a neurologist! If its a problem with the nerve and botox is primarily affecting nerve function could be potentially damaging nerve function even more.
All the best😘
We can't just make an appointment with a Neurologist here in UK - I'm waiting for one for my headaches and its been nearly a year now! Botox affects muscles :0) Thanks! x
@@TheBeautyMaverick Im a physiotherapist from Croatia..and maybe physical therapy colud help but first neurologist has to run some tests.
Keep an eye on it especially if you notice any further progress in that problem with the eye movement.
P.S. botox is a toxin affecting acetylcholine (a neurotransmitter), at the junction where the nerve endings meet muscle cells🤓 thats why cold be messing up with the nerve function
P.P.S. love your videos 😘
Yes of course, Botox inhibits the release of acetylcholine, but the end result is on the muscle. Its almost as if the nerve has already had the signal to stop contracting! I appreciate your concern and input, very interesting and as it happens there has been a funny turn of events that I will talk about as soon as the Botox kicks in! I will keep an eye on things, excuse the pun lol x
Hiya, how soon after the fibroblast did you have the blepharoplasty? I have had fibroblast and it hasn't done anything so now want surgery. Many thanks
I think it was a couple of years.... x
Have you looked into ultherapy? It has good results treating brows...
Hi Karen I'm new to your channel.
Very informative as I'm just about to have a consultation about a blepharoplasty as I 2 have hooded eyes( our eye shape is simular) .
I have had very heavy brow droop in the past with botox and am really concerned about this
I'm now thinking I might be better with a brow lift as I have forehead lines. Confused.com xxx ( love your channel by the way xxx
I've got a yard of extra skin on my eyes but I'm 61. I think you're eyes look lovely, but if you're not happy with it get you're money back if nothing else. That surgeon is taking advantage of the fact that you've been very nice. I'm so sorry you didn't get what you wanted. You won't believe me or anyone else, but I think you're eyes look great.
I cannot tell you what to do but my gut says maybe chill a bit before having botox.If you dont can you try exercising your eye and force it up.I had a nose job and was told it takes 6 months to settle???my surgeon volunteered abroad to help disfigured children.You may figure a way to take photos with time.Whatever you are beautiful before and after.
Aww thanks for the lovely comment! I'm quite happy to have botox tbh since I had it for 8 years for my hooded eyes and loved it. I have also done facial yoga exercises on and off for many years and not seen much results but I admit that's probably due to my lack of dedication! x
It looks good, regardless of the eyebrows.
I just had a second revision on my left eye. I had blethloplasty on both eyes 3 Years ago. I really only wanted an eye fold on left eye done but he recommended both eyes so they look even. So I had both done and still had the left eye fold. So I think it was about 6-7 months after and a second revision was done on left eye fold and it still there. It’s been three years and I just had the third one done on left eye fold again. The incision wasn’t near as big and I get stitches out Thursday. I even tried Botox before this 3rd revision and it didn’t work. However , my left eye protrudes a little more then the right ( always has ) and my rt eyebrow was always just slightly higher then the left. So it’s just my left side is drooping I guess. I hope this third one works. I don’t think I can do it agsin and I don’t want to get an eyebrow lift and the Botox didn’t work. So I’m praying third time is the charm. Also , in this video you look fantastic. I can only hope the corner of my eyes look like yours ! We are hardest on ourselves tho . I was told that when we look closely in mirror everthing is magnified. But your eyes and eyebrows in this video look really nice
I couldn't even begin to put myself in your position. I went for a tooth out, a week last Thursday, long story short i ended up with 2 out. So im still in agony, not happy, at all. So gummy bear here. You cant really tell they where right at the back. Thats my tuppence worth. I just think you more brave than me. Thats for sure. Don't underestimate yourself. xxx💖💗💝🐕🐾🐾
My father was an “old school” surgeon. I grew up in a small town in the states. His patients used to bring us bushels of fruit, and call him at home. He was the least arrogant man I know and he was very loved by the whole community. It’s a shame that a few bad doctors give the whole lot a bad name. It must be a new thing.
Aww, your father sounds lovely!
I have Marfan's, which is also a connective tissue disease, and have the droopiest eyelids ever, they hang a good 1/4 inch past my eye and its so depressing. I've wondered whether surgery would help. I'm so sorry it hasn't helped you, and assume I would be the same x
I don't see why you would necessarily be the same lovely, its also worth consideration if its something you really want, we are all unique! x
Thanks so much for these videos. I have very hooded eyes and always considered this surgery. After seeing and hearing a boy our experience I will stick with Botox.
Awe sweetie i really feel for you
For those of us not in Great Britain can you clarify when you talk about medical treatment centers or what seem to be different than hospitals? I don't get where you went to have the eye surgery or what you were referring to about insurance, was it? I would be upset too if I didn't get what I expected from the surgery and I know it won't help any if I said you do look great. I certainly would go after getting a refund. Would that be something you would do in the courts in the form of suing the doctor?
I don't recall talking about insurance or medical treatment centre lol. In the UK we have the NHS Hospitals and then there are private hospitals. For those with either a lot of money, or with high paid jobs, they can get treatment in a private hospital. That means they get seen quicker and the treatment is much better. An example would be that I had knee pain & saw my GP who referred me to a surgeon. I waited 4 months to see a surgeon on the NHS who told me there was nothing I could do. I went back to my GP and asked to be referred to a private hospital and I would pay. I got an appointment that time in 2 weeks at the private hospital, with the very same surgeon (they often do some time with NHS and some time private) and he told me he could operate. With cosmetic surgery, you can pretty much only get it done privately other than in extreme cases so I needed to pay for the surgery myself. My choices were to go to a cosmetic company that does plastic surgery or to go to a medical hospital that does plastic surgery. I chose medical thinking that would be best. However, I'm not seeking a refund or compensation, that was my fault for miscommunication in the video - I said "the only way I could afford a brow lift was if I got compensation" which has made people think that's what I'm looking for, but I'm not. I'm making a complaint about the way the surgeon dealt with my medical complaint about my droopy eye, but I'm NOT asking for compensation or refund. I DO think it would be a gesture of good will to offer but I think its highly unlikely that will happen. I certainly won't be going to court or suing any doctor! I think he did a great job of the Blepharoplasty, its not his fault I had brow compensation and that was confirmed by a 2nd opinion by another company and since by a 3rd specialist (i will talk about in next video). The only maltreatment is not giving me reassurance regarding my eye droop and offering to investigate and as I say, really good customer service would have been to offer a partial refund to cover the cost of Botox to preven the eye droop whilst they investigated the cause. Hope that helps explain. x
Adding to what Fiona Midgley wrote, I was really on board with your frustration with surgeons. I live in Canada so it's not a cultural thing. My mom had brain cancer and post -op this appalling man walked into the ICU where visitors were not allowed at 9 am and told her he had done a brilliant job and she had 3 months to live. My sister and I ganged up on him and terrified the life out of him; we had every reason to be outraged and he was disciplined by the medical board in my country. I am contemplating Blepharoplasty but with your help and caveats and generously sharing your experience, I will be extra cautious. Thanks so much for your video, you were so candid, like a friend. Best best wishes.
Aww Evelyn, thank you for your kind words and I'm SO sorry for what your family went through, that is dreadful. Good on you for fighting back! Hugs, Karen x
I think he nicked a nerve...nerves do regenerate. A neurologist may be able to give you better advice. Doctors are the cockiest people on the planet and I find most are not nearly as good as they think. I find women doctors to be more balanced in their approach and willing to explain complications… So I have switched to women doctors when possible and have enjoyed medical the experience much more than going to men.
LOL ... having worked for about 20 years in my early career for attorneys, I would have to say that attorneys would give doctors a good run for their money in the cocky department :D
Its horrible to be mistreated by a doctor, its very upsetting, and i understand how you feel on that one because i have been in your shoes.
I really feel that you would get a better result going to a doctor who does Asian double eyelid surgery.
I am so sorry for your experience! I though u had fibroblasting was that not effective ?
The fibroblast only lasted a month or so sadly. x
Oh no I am so sorry! I just had mine done yesterday I am hoping for a better result! @@TheBeautyMaverick
Mrs. Ginger, why not get the botox. And if you get the desired goal, then begin to save up slowly for the brow lift. Even if it takes two or three years, you've lived this long with hooded eyes so two or three years wont hurt. And in the meantime, you can get botox.
This is the issue with plastic surgery, Ive had a few things (surgery) done and each time I have been disappointed, I feel that the surgeons are happy if you praise them but as soon as you complain they can turn unpleasant and don't even listen. I had a breast lift and implants done on the NHS which was ok but not 100% and I also had my ears pinned back on the NHS but I am not sure whether it is the NHS surgeons? Although they did work privately too. The only thing I have been happy with is fat transfer which I had in sept after having an unpleasant experience with filler where I had to argue and say it was still there as I could feel it! The dr dissolved it whilst saying it wasn't there but as soon as the area deflated I could see in his face he knew he was wrong not that he admitted that! I have slight loose skin above my eyes but the DR im now seeing does not really like doing blepharoplasty now he fills the area with fat. He says so many people have had fat removed from the upper eye lid making it look hollow which ages the face. If you look at a youthful face you only see a tiny portion of the lid. I'm having fat put under the eye brow too and temples as this raises the area also. I think maybe this surgeon is just very good he's in Harley street and I know competition there is high and only the best survive. I hope you get some kind of compensation. You can always ask for the paperwork you signed for your 'records' and check that the eyebrow compensation is actually there but also I would say that this wasn't properly discussed with you anyway. regardless whether you still would have gone ahead you should of had it explained to you at the very least and that is a failing on there part. With every op I have had the NHS has gone into great length to tell me all the complications with the- this happens to 1 in every 1000,0000 ETC. I think you were not given the time to ask to read the document either and you should never be rushed into signing or reading any document.
Yes exactly that, I feel like he was really nice UNTIL i said I didn't think the outcome was good and that's when he got really cocky! Sorry you've been through so much :0( x
Hi Karen, could you possibly give the name of the dr in Spire Cambridge Lea hospital?
I am due to have a surgery on both my eyes for ptosis and very nervous if the dr I have chosen is the same??
I'm not in Cambridge, I'm in Scotland so definitely not the same guy. I can't actually remember his name now tbh but he mostly does facial reconstruction. x
I'm so sorry this has happened to you. I would see an eye dr. next. xo. Cindi
I'm guessing you are in US, we can't just decided to see an Eye doc in UK, its a whole referral system that takes an age! x
You give the surgeon way too much credit! Be careful with the Botox until you see an eye specialist. Beautiful as always 💕
Aww thank you lovely! x
Sorry to hear your experience was not the greatess. How extensive was your research on your surgeon? and did he give you those cocky vibes when you first met him or his cockiness was worst at your final appointment?
All details about my consult in 1st video but I didn’t get major cocky vibes then no, just the usual amount lol
Mrs ginger , I think you are very pretty and did you ever think of having a fringe ? I am a hairstylist and I think a relaxed fringe would be lovely on you, please don’t think I am being critical I promise I’m not . Even a side fringe would work !! I really hope things work out for you . Damm doctors sometimes are so insensitive ! X
Bless you honey, I don't think that's critical at all (you should see what some people say lol). I had a fringe for most of my life, and tried it again about 10 years ago but didn't enjoy it. Perhaps I'll try again one day :0) I do have a "fake fringe" that I try now and then to see what I think lol. x
did you have bells palsy as a result of nerve inflammation during surgery?
btw, its cranial nerves 2 and 3 affected here
No, not bells palsy - I had brow compensation . x
Unrelated but check out FL-41 rose tinted lenses they reduce blue glare from computers/phone and help in general with headaches 😘😘
Good luck on Monday Karen , will be thinking of you , XXX
I followed the whole procedure and all of your videos about it. I am sad that there is virtually no result from the Blero. But mind you: take heed! Botox can also put your eyebrows DOWN (and that is certainly not uncommon). You sound like a very sweet, not very assertive person, but stand up for yourself this time!
Thanks - I have done lots of videos on Botox and 2 of them are showing when it went wrong and my brows got pushed down because they put it in the wrong place - I will be making sure it goes in the right place lol. x
Wow! This guy is a real Joy isn't he? The way he just basically wrote you off is so wrong. It really seems like you should have some recourse with the surgeon.
I absolutely love those earrings! ❤
Imo surgeons are kind of all business. They aren't the easiest to talk to and they definitely want it known they are in charge, not you. I think some think we are all just stupid, but it is because they are so smart (and yes arrogant!)
Karen I've got to say I know where you're coming from. Had a facelift in 2016, in my last followup appointment I told him I wasn't happy as he hadn't done what I'd asked, which was to pull my jawline in quite tight and get rid f the 'evil twins ' what I call my jowels. Instead he did what he wanted which was much more conservative. Then gets all snooty and says I have unrealistic expectations! Not so.
Note to self, always read before posting, auto edit.😀
Search Forme clinic in Prague...they are unbelievably good. I had a breast Augmentation 2 years ago, and I couldn’t be happier big perfect boobies...my mother had eyelid surgery here too, and she loved the results...he hasn’t took enough skin, and he’s covering his tracks...paying for surgery in the U.K is crazy it’s so much cheaper abroad, and they treat your like a King, but you MUST do your research first 🙏🏻❤️
Hello hunni I am booked in for blepharoplasty with dr nick Rhodes have you heard of him I hope I get a good result x
Haven't heard of him no, best of luck! x
How old are you if I may ask? I have hooded lids. And this is something I have considered.
I'm 46 x
You are smart and educated and informed. Good review with lots of valuable information for others.
Great video Karen!! Please do a video about the Botox and good luck on Monday. Hope everything works out well.
Will do - I've done 3 or 4 videos on my Botox brow lift before including ones when it went wrong, they might be of interest x
Hello,am not sure if your surgeon was an occulplastic surgeon but I doubt it.anyone who deals with eye surgery should go to one and not a general plastic surgeon.probably u would of got same result but your eyes would of been better taken care of.just my opinion.
Great opinion and one I'm aware of but no Ocular plastic surgeons near me. x
I do see more of your eye lid than you had before,they tend to be very conservative though,but there are some people who get the surgery and have that Opossum look.
Hi Karen I can see a difference in the before and after, there is an improvement, and your eyebrows look really good in the after photo too, hope all goes well on Monday have a restful Sunday xxx Jenny
Have your sinuses checked. It may be a collapsed sinus causing your drooping
I'm interested why you feel that would connect to an eye droop?
Cant believe how calm and dignified you have been Karen. Awful bedside manners. You defo need to complain and I think you should get some compensation. In any other job or service they wouldn't just let them off so easily. You look fabulous no matter what anyway (much better than Pamela Anderson 😂) x
Haha, I don't know why I chose Pam Anderson, not sure I'd actually want to look like her lol, maybe Jennifer Aniston! x
@@TheBeautyMaverick 😂😂
Hmm 🤔 my previous comment can’t be publicly viewed on your channel. Wonder if this one can be. Had this issue before 🧐
I just found your previous comment in held for review - nothing can post with links for some reason (not an option I chose as far as I know!), I'll try and approve it and see if it will appear). I have been using Eva Fraser facial yoga for years though, I just don't do it often enough, I bought her very first book :0) I don't mean to sound know it all, but I don't feel like I need to email anyone about botox - I was the person that approved Botox studies (some on children!) when I worked in the hospital and I had botox for 8 years for my hooded eyes - I feel like I'm experienced enough and knowledgeable enough to know that it will work for me if done in the right areas. Yoga can work on certain areas to an extent but not strong enough to create the amount of lift I need in my opinion and especially not unless I was dedicated enough or remembered enough to do it daily. xx
Annoyingly, I have approved that comment but its still sitting in the other folder, You Tube aargh!
Mrs Ginger Beauty oh I wasn’t suggesting emailing Carolyn about the Botox - she doesn’t agree with it anyway. It was to see if she thought her program would be able to help, before you went ahead with more expensive procedures. But like you said to get the results you have to be consistent; like going to the gym.
So sorry to hear all this :/. And i am sadly pretty sure you will not get any compensation from nowhere (i have read a lot about plastic surgery lately) . Looking forward to see the botox results
Thanks Cristina, I'm not actually asking for compensation, I should have edited out that comment as it makes it sound like I am lol, I just meant the only way I could pay for a brow lift is if by some miracle I got offered compensation, but I AM going to complain. x
@@TheBeautyMaverick oh sure, absolutely, but usually the documents that plastic surgeons have you signing before the surgery usually cover their asses allright (ooopss) unless there is really a BIG problem/neglicence ://// . Good luck.
Yes, your outer corners look much better, and that part is a clear improvement. But I see what you're saying about the rest. So, interesting about the botox. I shall watch carefully what happens to you. I am upset because I'm droopy in the upper eyelids now, making me look sad when I don't. I certainly can't afford surgery, so if botox lifts your eyes I'll consider it too. Good luck tomorrow! X
Have you seen my previous videos on Botox? They may be of interest to you - I had botox to lift my eyes for 8 years and loved it. x
@@TheBeautyMaverick No, I haven't. I honestly didn't know that my crepey eyelids could be lifted with botox! I'm on a very tight budget atm, what sort of price range would I be looking at? Thanks for your help!
Karen, I can't find the botox videos? How far back am I going in time, lol? Thanks. X
Let me post a bunch of links here :0) ua-cam.com/video/thX_3_VK9cc/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/wiWHeyBaN6o/v-deo.html
Too bad about the lid surgery. p.s. I watched some of your dog grooming videos and they are very good.
I haven't finished watching all the video yet but what a complete arsehole he seems, I'm so angry for you xx
I completely understand how you fee, about getting a disappointing result and having used the bonus money but I’m also sure your hubby is still glad he was able to give you the opportunity. I think you’ve handled the situation brilliantly and you’re right about putting things in perspective. I would also say you’re braver than you think as I would love to get rid of my 11s but am too scared to even consider botox let alone any types of cosmetic procedures...so it’s skincare only for me. I shall look forward to seeing the effects of the botox. X
I think you look great!
Please do a video on the Botox, I am considering Botox for my self so any video would be great 👍🏻🙂
I will do but I have done about 3 already which may help you - 2 of them showing when it went wrong! x
Maybe go to your doctor and see what he says about your eyebrow coming down. I would def complain about the doctor that did your eyes and see what they say.
I’ve had consultations in past with Male consultants and have found them arrogant. I walked out of one . I value my time and money and would not part with a penny.
Thank you for sharing your experience, you’re a lovely, kind and beautiful woman ❤️
If you have EDS you should not be doing botox!! Botox is dangerous :( it gave me permanently hooded eyes. Although I had dysport brand which I think made it worse. I would do anything to have my pre botox body back. Ive lost my hair, my eyelids are permanently swollen, my foreheads twice as long. Its horrible. I’m young too :( very young. Dont do it. My body is fucked and they dont have enough research to know why dysport does this to some people.
I'm not sure what ELS is? I would only use Allergan due to the cruelty on animals with other brands. I worked in medical research for years, there is so much evidence about the safety of Botox (Allergan) and it is used in children, and I also have it medically for migraines and will be having it for bladder issues. Dysport I know nothing about - I'm so sorry for the awful issues you've had. x
@@TheBeautyMaverick sadly there are thousands who have been injured from botox, although I guess rare it does happen. I would have never known unless it happened to me during my 7th set of injections. Its called iatrogenic botulism poisoning and the reason we have a black box warning today as it killed a child in the past. Ray Chester is the only attorney to ever take on allegran when it killed someone, he has an interview on the truth of botox and what can happen. Ofcourse do what makes you happy but I want young women like me who were marketed to as it being a prevantative in my early 20’s that it can mess you up permanently despite the studies. Ive had to consult plastic surgeons in beverley hills and theyve told me whats happened to me is not as uncommon as youd think. Ive spoken to a lot of young women like me who have been deformed in the face by it so thats why I speak out now. Much love and Thank you 💜
In California you can get Botox at the drug store. Lol. No need to go to the hospital 😊
It's a very interesting experience you've had..you have a wonderful attitude about it with much information to share with your veiwers..im sure you could have done without his condescending remark about exspecting perfection🙄what an arrogant asshole!😬 we are taking a risk when electing to do cosmetic surgery however, poor judgement of him to have done it under a local anaesthetic..that be my complaint.
I fully agree with you on everything...the goodwill gesture would have gone such a long way. So strange that he didn’t OFFER to do the right/caring thing for a client that obviously wasn’t trying to get anything but what you paid for. Such a small cost for him, to give you back a bit for BOTOX. Definitely not someone I would want to build a relationship with. Thank you for your informative videos. YOU are a true beauty inside and out so please TRY to not let yourself feel inferior. Trust ME, that those pretty ladies with the high heels also feel the same as you...