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I would love to see you guys go to the original site of the 1969 Woodstock Music And Arts Festival. Would be super interesting to see what would be found.
History Seekers I did a bunch of research myself on this site. Planned on going. I live in Mississippi. I absolutely love y’all finds. I would so love to join you if you ever return to this historic site. Great work guys. Loved other video also. Just amazing. HH
History Seekers I’m a guitarist. That burn ointment could have well been used for there finger tips. Back in the 80’s we started using superglue to help the rawness of the finger tips. Now they actually sell a similar healing sealing product for just that. Amazing!!
I’ve always wanted to visit the site. I live in Arkansas, always been a huge Skynyrd fan. So they let you go to the site? I heard a Korean guy owns the land and wasn’t letting anyone on the property??
You got that right, I'm a survivor of the Skynyrd plane crash. The plane metal isn't a issue. If I see a personal item that will change everything. It's our belongings.
I heard a survivor interview saying people looted everything the day of the crash including the ring off his hand. That is a sad reflection of what was important to some. The guy wasn’t dead and I think he said his watch too.
@@maurad5378 Many came to help and tried to save lives but you always have bad (and bigoted) people too. I`ve performed before and desperately needed the money I earned but had my tip jar stolen. It`s a punch to the gut to be robbed.
Lost two good friends in a really bad car accident. June 89. I went to the site a few weeks ago and there's still pieces of the car there. God i miss the boys. RIP Scott and Doug.
Billy Powell said "a thousand baseball bats" or similar. The trees literally pureed the aircraft into hundreds of pieces the size of a matchbook. It's a miracle anyone survived at all.
Tis tragic yet amazing how some of the passengers walked away with no injuries while others were killed on impact. Billy Powell said Ronnie was killed instantly from a massive head wound from a tree branch, his surviving family were apparently offended by this and released an autopsy report that concluded he succumbed to suffocation from debris that piled on top of him. Road manager Dean Kilpatrick and guitarist Steve Gaines were supposed impaled by a table on impact, and the back up singer, sister of Steve Gaines, Cassie, was almost decapitated according to Powell (as a piano player, one of my favorites. RIP Billy, others should know he meant no harm and regretted recalling this horrible scene the way he remembered it) . The band was going to ditch this plane, and this happened after the band released what I feel was their best work to date. As a yankee rock lover who liked Zeppelin, Rush, Aerosmith, Hendrix, the WHO, and yes, Neil Young, etc I still loved 'you got that right' and 'what's your name' along with sweet home, free bird, and others that didn't get much air play (every mother's son, one more time, etc). Southern rock. Long live Skynyrd and the Allman Brothers. Thanks for bringing some light to this tragedy, so many have some level of love for these guys, of course we seek closure to this loss because we love and respect these guys who made and make such a difference in our lives. not out of morbid curiosity. I think they would want us to know their final stories. I understand there is so much infighting in the ensuing years. Hopefully some day soon they will let it go and be a model for us during these trying and stressful times. Love and forgiveness.
Lynyrd Skynyrd keyboardist en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Powell "As time went by I’d kinda forgiven Ronnie for [knocking out] my teeth, but right before the plane crash I was getting really fed up with it all. The strangest memory of my life is that when that plane came down I wasn’t knocked unconscious like all the rest, 1 of my first thoughts was: ‘Thank God it’s over - I don’t have to get beaten up anymore'.. It didn’t last long, of course. I wanted the beating to stop, but not like it did"
No such thing as “got it all” in a violent plane impact. You can hunt that site for years, and will continue to find random pieces. Very interesting video.
Wow...I can't believe that you can still find pieces after all these years! I saw them play in July of 77 in Asbury Park, NJ. The memories are just flooding back. Good times : ) Thanks
@@HistorySeekers I would love to learn more about your equipment. I want to buy a set up, but always confused when it comes time to make a choice. Thanks for any help
I sell detectors as my regular job. I would be happy to tell you about the differences in all of them and find you the right one for your budget. We sell every major brand.
@@HistorySeekers I have been think about the same thing about getting me a detector ! The main part of my house was built in 1890 and last added on in the mid to late 1970's ! I have 24 acres here in Kansas ! I found out a while back my place to referred to same the Robinson place ! My great grandmother maiden name was Robinson ! Maybe I did wind up with a piece of ancestors places ! I also have heard of few old trash dumps that could have some old bottles in them . I have trying find out who owns a place that has some old building that are falling down ! It looks like a good place to detect some day !
Heath,I have such mixed emotions watching these videos. Not by any means what you guys are doing but because my memories. I grew up in Jonesboro, Georgia and saw Skynyrd so many times. From a 16 yo kid sitting on a pontoon boat in Lake Spivey watching them at Lion Country Safari 2-3 years before a album to All three nights at the Fox Theatre in Atlanta when they recorded “One More from the Road” to seeing the survivors playing the Fox in the Rossington Collins band where they did Free Bird with no vocals only Ronnie Van Zant’s hat hanging on the microphone. I have never brought myself to seeing the current or any previous incarnations of the band. I love them and they certainly dominate my playlist. Love you guys too! Thanks for stirring my soul once again. It doesn’t happen much anymore.
Thank you for sharing that Jeff and i understand. Growing up in AL, we were raised on sweet home Alabama. Unfortunately, I was only a few months old when this crash happened and it happened the day Kelly was born.
History Seekers take some time sometime and watch a UA-cam video of when they did Free Bird live. That is what that band was all about. They had so much fun when they performed.
I was a 16 year old when this crash happened and over here in England, we were still reeling from the death of Elvis in August, followed in September by Glam Rock star, Marc Bolan of T Rex fame, who died in a car crash in London aged 29. When news broke of this tragedy, a good friend of mine was in floods of tears as Lynyrd Skynyrd were his favourite band and he had all their records, some of which were not easy to obtain over here. He said he paid big money for some of them as imports. As others have said, it's amazing that anyone survived this crash. When planes crash, the resulting fireball is usually the reason for zero survivors, but due to this plane running out of fuel, mercifully they were spared that horrific ending. God bless all those who died.
It’s sad because the survivors tried to do this and were denied to bring metal detectors. They are angry this group was allowed to do this and they were they ones that survived and lived through this
@@HistorySeekers Hi,I been watching couple little things Never knew u existed and were digging on that horrible day! What do u do with what u find? It's so Brutal!! Ty
@@jasonmiller4046 Me too. These people should follow the general rule of respect- Don't molest such crash sites for recreation as long as there are living peers.
The green is zinc chromate primer. The "button" is a PUSH TO RESET KNOB and is on various instruments. After many years as an aircraft mechanic / crash recovery tech we never get everything. The "danger" disc is a carbon monoxide detector which is on the instrument panel and turns color when the CO is high.
I am so absolutely blown away by this! Good job guys! I’m ex Air Force and understand most of what you found so I really appreciate you guys doing this. Back “in the day”, Skynard was my thing so you can imagine how this made me feel. Wish I could have been on site with y’all 👍🎸🎼🤘
Do you know they denied survivors from the plane to take metal detectors in there to find pieces of the plane?? Those survivors are pissed that this group was allowed in to do this but not the people who actually went through this and survived and lost people close to them.
Wow, this is crazy! Years ago as a young man I was applying for a job offshore and a couple of guys came in wearing Lynyrd Skynyrd 'Crew' shirts. I asked them... Did you guys work for LS? They said 'No. The plane crashed nearby our property. There were T-shirts, guitars, personal items etc., EVERYWHERE!' I thought 'Damn'. Now over 40 years later I'm watching this.
There are still survivors would love their item returned. Like Mark Howard from Texas he was on that plane. He was the lightning man. Check out his channel. Backstage. Just saying 🇺🇸
Thank you for brining us a some of the historical finds you found at the crash site. I have watched both of the videos and it brings chills to me when y'all show these little pieces of history.
It is awesome that you guys are still finding artifacts from the tragic crash on that fateful day. I wonder if any surviving members of Lynyrd Skynyrd have watched your videos.
Seeing the fern growing where a part of the instrument panel was dug reminds me of "Where the Red Fern Grows." It's thought that a fern grows where a lot of love is buried.
We know from the crash story that the plane hit the trees while trying to crash land. That means the plane had to have been hitting the tops ot the trees, middle of the trees, etc, on the way down. It's not like the plane just crashed completely RIGHT THERE. I wonder how much debris is still underground along the path that the plane was clipping the trees before the final "crash?"
It stretches for a distance but most of the items related to the crew, cockpit, and passenger cabin are in the area that were were focusing on. As we worked back toward the rear it was just pieces of metal from the exterior of the plane. We did not show all of that, well, because all the pieces were similar and repetitive. If you saw our first video here, we later released the uncut version of it which shows more of that other types of items found. Check it out if you haven't seen them.
@@HistorySeekers Awesome. I watched first video but not extended version. VERY cool videos, btw! I was watching another doc about the crash since I commented here earlier. I think it was Gene Odom who mentioned that when they first started clipping the trees on the way down it wasn't so bad. But when they got closer to the ground and started hitting the trees down lower it got VERY violent. That makes sense with what you're saying about the debris scatter too I guess.
That...is clled a "debris feild" and like a meteorite will start at a single point and widen and lengthen out in a pyramid or conical shape across the ground.
@@HistorySeekers, I believe that too and I have no doubt you guys will be able to find it! And judging by your reply, does that mean I can expect more of these hunts?!
I remember that night that happened. very sad. Presumably NTSB crew got enough to figure out what happened, but I sure wouldn't expect them to find every single square inch of the plane, even today.
The day they crashed I was in Korea at a mountain warfare school, I didn't hear about it for weeks. After training I returned to Okinawa to Camp Schwab, Armed Forces Radio play their songs all week or more as I recall. SEMPER FI 👍❤🇺🇸
I went there a week or so after the crash, maybe a little longer. There were no investigators, nobody cleaning anything up -- it was already gone. I had been out of town at a place called Millington -- but when the weekend came around I went back down there. I was living about 9 miles due south of the place. I didn't see anything except a big old hole in the woods, and I turned my Gold Wing over on a little hill and couldn't pick it back up without flagging some guys down to help me. Memories from a long time ago.
Why are the video’s so short? I could watch an hour of that did. I would also like to see your finds close up and cleaned up at the end. Thanks for saving the rest of the plane from the earth. It is a part of our history.
Shannon the finds that can be seen up close we try to put a picture up. The button came apart and couldn’t be saved. Unfortunately our cameras don’t have zoom.
As long as the families of the dead are cool with it (and apparently they are if they want to put the relics in a museum), I think it is a great thing to find these pieces that would have just rotted in the ground otherwise. I have watched both of your videos on the crash site and maybe someday I will have a chance to see the items you found in a museum. That's an opportunity that I and lots of other fans would never have if it were not for your efforts. Thanks for the videos and giving people a chance to someday see in person these pieces of rock history!
The green primer was used to help the paint stick on the plane! I used to paint aircraft and the white or gray was used as away to prevent radar from not being able to detect the plane. It was also used as a camouflage tool. Green prime was also used to protect electronics in aircraft and keep the temperature down inside aircraft.
I would be HUMBLED walking around that area. Having permission to detect the area is insane! I grew up on the band and that story. Thank you for bringing us to the actual site!!
permission, lol. I would fly over the site many times in the early 80's when I flight instructed taking students into MCB. For a couple years you could see the ground scar. I didn't visit the site at ground level until the later 80's. Found many pieces with no metal detector as the ground churns up pieces that were buried in the crash.
This is such an unbelievable video Lynyrd Skynyrd are one of my favourite bands of all time and Free Bird is one of my favourite songs. Thank you very much for sharing this incredible content. You now have a new subscriber.
5:04 that part is the oil temperature gauge. The PUSH TO DRAIN button is for the Pitot/Static Drains. "The pitot tube also has drain holes. If water enters the front of the tube or condenses inside the ram air chamber, it can drain out. Many pitot tubes also include a static port. But, on most IFR certified aircraft, separate static ports on either side of your fuselage measure static pressure." "A pitot-static system is a system of pressure-sensitive instruments that is most often used in aviation to determine an aircraft's airspeed, Mach number, altitude, and altitude trend. A pitot-static system generally consists of a pitot tube, a static port, and the pitot-static instruments.[1] Other instruments that might be connected are air data computers, flight data recorders, altitude encoders, cabin pressurization controllers, and various airspeed switches. Errors in pitot-static system readings can be extremely dangerous as the information obtained from the pitot static system, such as altitude, is potentially safety-critical. Several commercial airline disasters have been traced to a failure of the pitot-static system"
@@HistorySeekers No, the pitot system failing would cause airspeed and/or altitude indicators to become erratic or give false readings. This would be a factor mainly in very cold weather. The Oil Temperature gauge just shows the engine oil temperature. Neither would cause an engine to stop working. There is some speculation that in the case of this crash, pilots were attempting to transfer fuel from one wing to the other because one engine was using far more fuel than the other and had nearly exhausted it's fuel supply. This could have been because that engine's fuel mixture was set to "Full Rich" by mistake. In the process of transferring fuel from the other wing, they inadvertantly dumped some of it instead. I can't substantiate any of this, but it is a viable theory and would explain why there were flames coming from one engine according to witnesses. (due to too much fuel being ingested and some of it remaining to burn as the hot, fuel rich exhaust hit the oxygenated outside air.) Having been around flight training for many years, I can tell you this: A good crew monitors fuel flow and calculates remaining fuel constantly during flight. There is no way an error this big could happen unless the crew was very, very complacent and not following standard practices and procedures. My opinion is that this crew was just going through the motions and may have been distracted by outside influences. (Aerosmith is quoted as saying that they turned down this plane and crew because bottles of alcohol were being passed around between the crew on the plane. Of course this is hearsay). I don't mean to point fingers at the dead, but it is a very suspicious case. I'll leave it at that. RIP all who perished.
That button that you found the says push to drain maybe what the pilots pushed to drain the fuel tank. If it is that's an important part because the story says that they accidentally dumped Fuel and that's why the plane crashed
I watched 3 plus hours about the plane crash tonight. One of the vids a man said he seen them dump the fuel because it was going down. That likely saved the survivors lives
Hey just an idea you may want to check the trunk of the bigger trees. The reason being a friend of mine was in a bad street bike accident and they found his front brake caliper embedded into a tree about 1/8 of a mile down the road. I can almost bet that's the same case here at this crash sight. Just a thought good luck of your findings.✌🏼
Thank you for realizing the historical aspect to the site. No matter what people's opinions on the crash site are, it appears to be someone's private property and they control access to the site. It would be nice if Judy or the Skynyrd group would purchase the wooded area and deem it a sanctuary.
It's definitely not the oil gauge..just look at the freeze frame with the piece they found ..the 2 middle numbers are much farther apart on the piece they found then the oil gauge pic
@@fcukyou2_ It looks like it tops out at 150º-160º, which seems low for oil temperature, but maybe aircraft engines are different? I'm guessing you'd see something a little higher in a car's gasoline engine.
Very interesting! My husband was good friends with Ed King when he was in music business. I also knew Jo Jo Billingsley(Debra Jo White was her name I knew her by) she sang at our church and lived near my moms Best friend. One nice lady! Told us lots of stories of her time as a Honkette.
Just took a motor bike ride with friends to the memorial site. It was very nice memorial to honor them. Didn’t know people could metal detect there. That would be so cool.
@@HistorySeekers lol....i worked on buses not planes but they probably share similar equipment. Since it said push to drain, could be fuel, sewage or a number of things. I will search the web.
@@HistorySeekers that other piece with the half circle cut out that is broken with the wafer like stuff similar to Kellys fuse would be some kind of electrical part. That wafer like material would isolate something from grounding out.
What a tragic loss that was. I'm really surprised that they didn't get fuel when before they left for their next destination. Heaven has the best music.
Wow! Those are some cool finds for sure. I don't know how I would feel going there and digging up stuff, it's definitely a sacred site. Also there's no way the NTSB got everything. Theres probably a lot of other stuff beyond this area cuz that plane was moving very fast and got shredded by the trees on the way down. Just very sad, I couldn't do this, good luck guys.
HISTORY, SOME PEOPLE MAY THINK THIS IS MORBID, BUT I SEE IT AS WHAT THE NTSB DID NOT FIND, OR DID NOT CARE TO LOOK FOR, SO WHAT A ROCK AND ROLL BAND HAD A MISHAP, OH WELL, LET'S MAKE A GOOD INTERVIEW AND CALL IT A DAY, WELL IT MATTERS TO ME, I LOST FRIENDS THAT DAY, AND I CARE STILL TO THIS DAY, THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS, IT SHOULD MEAN A LOT TO MANY PEOPLE, MAY THEY ALL R.I.P., THEY HERE HUMAN BEINGS THAT LOST THIER LIFE, PERIOD, MAY IT BE A ROCK BAND OR FRANK SINATRA, COUSIN FIGEL
Yes I was in the Air Force and worked in the paint shop and I agree with you about the zinc chromate. If I remember correctly it was a primer that was used on two dissimilar metals that were fitted together and gave the paint something to hold to.
Wow awesome job y’all!!! Great video again, it’s so crazy how much is still out there especially since they said they that they recovered everything!!! Love Ms. Debbie’s shirt too!!!
The primer paint your referring to is probably Zinc Chromate. At the 7:20 mark that looks like a part of a Phenolic block that may have secured something like a hydraulic line. I used to recover crashed aircraft, in areas like you were in it is next to impossible to find every part of the aircraft. Thanks for posting the video, very interesting.
The part that says "push to adjust" is from the altimeter, or the heading indicator. On an altimeter, you use it to set the pressure for the atmospheric conditions around you so the altimeter reads right. On the heading indicator, you use it to set the heading indicator when you line up on the runway so the indicator matches the runway heading. What a cool find!
Definitely thinking about that vanquish as a backup, saw your used one for sale, very tempting! Love that oil gauge, what an AMAZING piece of history to hold on to!
When you guys said your searching for parts of the airplane, I thought maybe you'll find one or two tiny fragments, I mean, I've seen you already have 20 or more pieces, ntsb, wow, there's a wake-up call. Maybe because they were a rock band, I was 17 years old with long hair, and I can tell you that prejudice was alive and well, I'd love to be a fly and have heard what the ntsb and local cops and other assorted bullies had said under their breath. Anyway, thank you guys for putting the time and effort to uncover the lapse of those in charge back then. I'm grateful as a huge fan back in the 70's, they happened to be my favorite bands. 🙏
Thank you! Be sure to check out the first video that we did there. Some more amazing history. It is almost to 500,000 views on our first video from there.
I'm a history addict, and agree that this is a secret site. But unfortunately there are thousands of sites and places that death has occurred and many of us don't even know or realize these places. and that's what makes addiction so crazy because that's something else I study about and spirit possession and addiction go hand in hand period our bodies were made to house a soul so yes there are souls and spirits out there that can take over the soul that's in your body if you don't put your foot down about it and make changes kind of thing. And sacred land brings me to think about the Indians and all of the death but it's not only the Indians it's so much death before then and before then and then before then period all over the world. There's nothing but different time frames were a bunch of people have died and souls are just floating up in the droves. Just so the world knows it's very important that you learn astral travel so you can control your soul and that you learn Ascension so you know what to do there's a part of you that's going to know what to do when it comes your time to pass on. the big dilemma here is either the souls get taken down to the roots or the souls just keep floating up higher than high and go away so high that their energy ball just starts collecting dust and you turn into an asteroid and then that collects you know more and more and more and I think that's what the asteroids are is just floating souls that are stuck there and then they crash down to the Earth and they're rocks and I think all the souls are in these rocks and I think that River rocks are possibly just souls that floated up collected a bunch of debris and the outer space and then they come crashing down. To me every square inch of this land is sacred and the concrete is really pissing the Earth off cuz it covers it. I don't know if anybody has ever had a Band-Aid that just won't stay on but that's what concrete is to the Earth and one day it's just going to erupt that's what earthquakes are all about it's just a big air bubble of airborne mold or airborne bacteria and it just creates a big air bubble down there and it actually is physically something but when that something decides to leave that area then poof there's nothing holding it up and you got yourself a gigantic sinkhole. Where I live there's a ton of caves and mining caves for Miles underneath this dirt and all you got to do is run some leaky water for days and all that stuff is going to cave in so it makes sense to me how California could just slip off the land because of the fault level so if anybody were to attack the fault line it sink the whole state the California . The funny thing is I constantly hear water gushing underneath the dirt it's like a heavy flow of a creek or something like a heavy flow like out of a dam so I don't know why there's so much of that that I hear because it's definitely not the freeway. Remember it's United we stand and divided we fall forever more worldwide. This is God's Game of Life everybody. It's up to us to make the changes. Killing somebody because of land is not the answer we already know that. And we've just got to pray to God that the people can understand this this is no joke because this is not just a small section of the world that is going to be into havoc it's going to end up just killing the whole planet and all the people on it and that is going to be one sacred planet if we don't do something about it. I choose to live I want to live I'm 57 years old and I just started living. Let's see if we can hold hands and go twice around the world and be different . Happy holidays and God bless to everyone.
N.T.S.B. or some good hearted southern folk ? I'm going with the latter. As a Floridian and a L.S. fan, thank you. Proud to be a Rebel cause the souths gonna do it again. 🙏👍🤙🇺🇸🎼🤙👍🙏 God bless you all. May they all be resting in peace.
Having been a Naval Aviation Tech for 20 years, the one item you found that you weren't sure of the material it was made of but thought it was from the interior of the cockpit is a Micata block. Micata is a laminated none conductive material invented by Westinghouse used in aircraft as supports for wire bundles and tubing for fuel, hydraulics, and bleed air systems. The curve is where the bundle or tubing lays as it is supported throughout the aircraft.
Thank you for letting us know and watching. Be sure to watch our first video from this site. We found many other items that we are looking for help getting identified.
Great job guys. Hey Heath, looks like your investigator skills are still going strong. Nice to see once again, Civil War items are not the only history in our back yards. Now find the Emilia Airhardt plane.
Very very cool site! It is crazy that there are so many targets left there. Guess the technology back then with metal detecting was not very good compared to today. Awesome job guys!
@@historyseekersscott3672 They may have just walked the site and just picked up what they could see. Just seems like a lot of debris left behind. More for you to find I guess!
An aircraft crash site is rarely clinically cleaned and you will always find small bits. The investigators normally know what they are looking for, the rest is left on site.
Mark Howard who was on that plane has a channel call Back stage . Anyway he was told that after they took the parts of the plane what was left small pieces where buried in a big hole. There's a warehouse that has the parts too. He went there an got some small pieces of the plane. Anyway cool stuff and I will definitely keep watching. Thanks 😊🇺🇸NJ
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@@HistorySeekers it's actually more bad energy than a graveyard imo, people's souls left their body at this place. If you believe in that sort of stuff ya know?
The Crafty Realtor, I have a close friend with the Sheriff’ Dept in the Sugarland area we plan to visit. Will keep that in mind after all the virus stuff is over.
The property is fenced off with Barbed wire and no trespassing signs. the man that owns the property does not give permission .people have offered money to go out there and he says no. I don't know how you guys got out there.
Well that is not the section where the crash happened. But we have exclusive permission and just have to notify them each time before we go. We have a well established reputation and have worked on project to include Andersonville Prison with NPS archaeologist.
@@HistorySeekers That's awesome.my buddy went out there years ago And he couldn't get permission he even offered money to somebody and they said no .so that's cool you have that kind of trust. thank you
@@HistorySeekers I live in Baton Rouge and visited the site this weekend and talked to rescuer Jamie Wall, and board member Krystina. I would love to join y’all with my ACE 250 if you go again, I was unaware y’all came but spoke to Jamie about recovering some pieces for their proposed museum shadow boxes. Let me know thanks. Chad
The piece at 7:00 in, looks like it could be part of a phenolic block. They are wooden clamps for hydraulic lines, so they don't chaff through the line.
I don't find it very surprising at all that you are finding items. A plane hitting the ground and busting up like that is going to leave bits and pieces everywhere. Add to it that the technology your using is unbelievably better than what was available back then. But awesome video! I am hooked on our channel!
I’ve worked on an NTSB crash investigation (Charlotte NC). There is almost no chance that every piece of wreckage from a crash is recovered. Mainly as the investigation progresses causes are narrowed down, if a particular system of an aircraft ( fuel, electrical, engines, pneumatics, hydraulics...etc) is determined to be at fault the hunt will be on for the remaining components of that system, once recovered the search for parts and manpower allotted becomes reduced.
Understand. What are your thoughts from reading the reports from this case? Eye witness reports seeing leaking fuel and fire shooting from the engine. Yet it’s listed as pilot error for the most part estimating fuel consumption. Would be interested if you think finding more of the parts that had fuel on it then would have changed the outcome?
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History Seekers thank you guys will look it up after work
I would love to see you guys go to the original site of the 1969 Woodstock Music And Arts Festival. Would be super interesting to see what would be found.
History Seekers I did a bunch of research myself on this site. Planned on going. I live in Mississippi. I absolutely love y’all finds. I would so love to join you if you ever return to this historic site. Great work guys. Loved other video also. Just amazing. HH
History Seekers I’m a guitarist. That burn ointment could have well been used for there finger tips. Back in the 80’s we started using superglue to help the rawness of the finger tips. Now they actually sell a similar healing sealing product for just that. Amazing!!
I’ve always wanted to visit the site. I live in Arkansas, always been a huge Skynyrd fan. So they let you go to the site? I heard a Korean guy owns the land and wasn’t letting anyone on the property??
You got that right, I'm a survivor of the Skynyrd plane crash. The plane metal isn't a issue. If I see a personal item that will change everything. It's our belongings.
If anything personal is found we would make every attempt to return it to a survivor or family member.
I heard a survivor interview saying people looted everything the day of the crash including the ring off his hand. That is a sad reflection of what was important to some. The guy wasn’t dead and I think he said his watch too.
@@maurad5378 Many came to help and tried to save lives but you always have bad (and bigoted) people too. I`ve performed before and desperately needed the money I earned but had my tip jar stolen. It`s a punch to the gut to be robbed.
Glad you made it
Lost two good friends in a really bad car accident.
June 89.
I went to the site a few weeks ago and there's still pieces of the car there.
God i miss the boys.
RIP Scott and Doug.
Sorry to hear that. What did you find? I have a friend that died nearby in an accident 17 years ago. Your comment has me thinking to go and look
Billy Powell said "a thousand baseball bats" or similar. The trees literally pureed the aircraft into hundreds of pieces the size of a matchbook. It's a miracle anyone survived at all.
yes the force they hit those trees was unbelievable for sure.
Tis tragic yet amazing how some of the passengers walked away with no injuries while others were killed on impact. Billy Powell said Ronnie was killed instantly from a massive head wound from a tree branch, his surviving family were apparently offended by this and released an autopsy report that concluded he succumbed to suffocation from debris that piled on top of him. Road manager Dean Kilpatrick and guitarist Steve Gaines were supposed impaled by a table on impact, and the back up singer, sister of Steve Gaines, Cassie, was almost decapitated according to Powell (as a piano player, one of my favorites. RIP Billy, others should know he meant no harm and regretted recalling this horrible scene the way he remembered it) . The band was going to ditch this plane, and this happened after the band released what I feel was their best work to date. As a yankee rock lover who liked Zeppelin, Rush, Aerosmith, Hendrix, the WHO, and yes, Neil Young, etc I still loved 'you got that right' and 'what's your name' along with sweet home, free bird, and others that didn't get much air play (every mother's son, one more time, etc). Southern rock. Long live Skynyrd and the Allman Brothers. Thanks for bringing some light to this tragedy, so many have some level of love for these guys, of course we seek closure to this loss because we love and respect these guys who made and make such a difference in our lives. not out of morbid curiosity. I think they would want us to know their final stories. I understand there is so much infighting in the ensuing years. Hopefully some day soon they will let it go and be a model for us during these trying and stressful times. Love and forgiveness.
Lynyrd Skynyrd keyboardist en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Powell "As time went by I’d kinda forgiven Ronnie for [knocking out] my teeth, but right before the plane crash I was getting really fed up with it all. The strangest memory of my life is that when that plane came down I wasn’t knocked unconscious like all the rest, 1 of my first thoughts was: ‘Thank God it’s over - I don’t have to get beaten up anymore'.. It didn’t last long, of course. I wanted the beating to stop, but not like it did"
@Burr Anderson, sarcasm? You really don't know?
It would be cool if they found an old les paul or strat. Or a microphone but that stuff has probably been picked over.
No such thing as “got it all” in a violent plane impact. You can hunt that site for years, and will continue to find random pieces. Very interesting video.
imagine what an archeology dig would find. 1,000 years from now somebody may have a reason to dig in that site.
Right Idk what these guys expect..
Thats what i thought. 40 years of rain and floods sinking and raising pieces.
Wow...I can't believe that you can still find pieces after all these years!
I saw them play in July of 77 in Asbury Park, NJ.
The memories are just flooding back. Good times : )
Thanks
Yes we were shocked too. You should see all the stuff from the first video. Thanks for watching and sharing your story about seeing them.
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I would love to learn more about your equipment. I want to buy a set up, but always confused when it comes time to make a choice.
Thanks for any help
I sell detectors as my regular job. I would be happy to tell you about the differences in all of them and find you the right one for your budget. We sell every major brand.
@@HistorySeekers I have been think about the same thing about getting me a detector ! The main part of my house was built in 1890 and last added on in the mid to late 1970's ! I have 24 acres here in Kansas ! I found out a while back my place to referred to same the Robinson place ! My great grandmother maiden name was Robinson ! Maybe I did wind up with a piece of ancestors places ! I also have heard of few old trash dumps that could have some old bottles in them . I have trying find out who owns a place that has some old building that are falling down ! It looks like a good place to detect some day !
Thanks for sharing Stuart!
Heath,I have such mixed emotions watching these videos. Not by any means what you guys are doing but because my memories.
I grew up in Jonesboro, Georgia and saw Skynyrd so many times.
From a 16 yo kid sitting on a pontoon boat in Lake Spivey watching them at Lion Country Safari 2-3 years before a album to All three nights at the Fox Theatre in Atlanta when they recorded “One More from the Road” to seeing the survivors playing the Fox in the Rossington Collins band where they did Free Bird with no vocals only Ronnie Van Zant’s hat hanging on the microphone.
I have never brought myself to seeing the current or any previous incarnations of the band.
I love them and they certainly dominate my playlist.
Love you guys too!
Thanks for stirring my soul once again. It doesn’t happen much anymore.
Thank you for sharing that Jeff and i understand. Growing up in AL, we were raised on sweet home Alabama. Unfortunately, I was only a few months old when this crash happened and it happened the day Kelly was born.
History Seekers take some time sometime and watch a UA-cam video of when they did Free Bird live.
That is what that band was all about. They had so much fun when they performed.
Totally understand Jeff. Thanks for watching!
Is there footage of the song being preformed with his hat on the mic stand?
Kevin Charles not sure.
I was a 16 year old when this crash happened and over here in England, we were still reeling from the death of Elvis in August, followed in September by Glam Rock star, Marc Bolan of T Rex fame, who died in a car crash in London aged 29.
When news broke of this tragedy, a good friend of mine was in floods of tears as Lynyrd Skynyrd were his favourite band and he had all their records, some of which were not easy to obtain over here. He said he paid big money for some of them as imports.
As others have said, it's amazing that anyone survived this crash. When planes crash, the resulting fireball is usually the reason for zero survivors, but due to this plane running out of fuel, mercifully they were spared that horrific ending.
God bless all those who died.
I'm glad you guys are able to dig the crash site and save what you can from that tragic day in history. Means alot to all the Skynryd fans!!
Thank you Alan. Check the original video from our first trip there if you haven’t seen it yet.
It’s sad because the survivors tried to do this and were denied to bring metal detectors. They are angry this group was allowed to do this and they were they ones that survived and lived through this
@@HistorySeekers Hi,I been watching couple little things Never knew u existed and were digging on that horrible day! What do u do with what u find? It's so Brutal!! Ty
I'm amazed that the S.O.B. that owns it would let anyone in there. The POS shot artimus Pyle in the stomach with a shotgun.
so weird look i no lets sell them on the internet
chills...to see the pieces that broke away..I love the respect you guys show in your videos!! Great one as usual!
Thank you!
Thank you!
The spirits are there. You should ask them for permission. They are standing around you and it's always nice to respect them that way.
for sure i would feel akward digging around
@@jasonmiller4046 Me too. These people should follow the general rule of respect- Don't molest such crash sites for recreation as long as there are living peers.
what code section is that in? I never saw that Paul.
Lol...stop
Could you imagine what music we'd have if they never crashed? So tragic. They were the best. They'll live forever through their music!
Best rock band every. We all grew up on their music.
Something tells me they wouldn't have been around much longer..it seems arguing and breaking up would've been inevitable
The green is zinc chromate primer. The "button" is a PUSH TO RESET KNOB and is on various instruments. After many years as an aircraft mechanic / crash recovery tech we never get everything. The "danger" disc is a carbon monoxide detector which is on the instrument panel and turns color when the CO is high.
I am so absolutely blown away by this! Good job guys! I’m ex Air Force and understand most of what you found so I really appreciate you guys doing this. Back “in the day”, Skynard was my thing so you can imagine how this made me feel. Wish I could have been on site with y’all 👍🎸🎼🤘
Thank you
Do you know they denied survivors from the plane to take metal detectors in there to find pieces of the plane?? Those survivors are pissed that this group was allowed in to do this but not the people who actually went through this and survived and lost people close to them.
Wow, this is crazy! Years ago as a young man I was applying for a job offshore and a couple of guys came in wearing Lynyrd Skynyrd 'Crew' shirts. I asked them... Did you guys work for LS? They said 'No. The plane crashed nearby our property. There were T-shirts, guitars, personal items etc., EVERYWHERE!' I thought 'Damn'. Now over 40 years later I'm watching this.
Mustang Writer Holy Crap!!!!!!
There are still survivors would love their item returned. Like Mark Howard from Texas he was on that plane. He was the lightning man. Check out his channel. Backstage. Just saying 🇺🇸
Thank you for brining us a some of the historical finds you found at the crash site. I have watched both of the videos and it brings chills to me when y'all show these little pieces of history.
Thank you for watching and commenting. We appreciate the support.
It is awesome that you guys are still finding artifacts from the tragic crash on that fateful day. I wonder if any surviving members of Lynyrd Skynyrd have watched your videos.
thank you
Seeing the fern growing where a part of the instrument panel was dug reminds me of "Where the Red Fern Grows." It's thought that a fern grows where a lot of love is buried.
Thanks for watching
We know from the crash story that the plane hit the trees while trying to crash land. That means the plane had to have been hitting the tops ot the trees, middle of the trees, etc, on the way down. It's not like the plane just crashed completely RIGHT THERE. I wonder how much debris is still underground along the path that the plane was clipping the trees before the final "crash?"
It stretches for a distance but most of the items related to the crew, cockpit, and passenger cabin are in the area that were were focusing on. As we worked back toward the rear it was just pieces of metal from the exterior of the plane. We did not show all of that, well, because all the pieces were similar and repetitive. If you saw our first video here, we later released the uncut version of it which shows more of that other types of items found. Check it out if you haven't seen them.
@@HistorySeekers Awesome. I watched first video but not extended version. VERY cool videos, btw! I was watching another doc about the crash since I commented here earlier. I think it was Gene Odom who mentioned that when they first started clipping the trees on the way down it wasn't so bad. But when they got closer to the ground and started hitting the trees down lower it got VERY violent. That makes sense with what you're saying about the debris scatter too I guess.
That...is clled a "debris feild" and like a meteorite will start at a single point and widen and lengthen out in a pyramid or conical shape across the ground.
That path was about 400 yards if I recall from the accident report.
Skynyrd is the best band ever. They’re just free as a bird
You are right. Such a horrible loss
Tragic but definitely not best band ever. Southern rock probably.
.......i see what ya did there. Nothin gets past me ill tell ya
You got that right!
Awesome to see yall back out there saving pieces of history.
Thank you!
Thank you for watching!
I'm glad you guys went back to this site. It was definitely one of my favorite hunts y'all have done. Thank you for sharing, Heath!
Thank you! I am glad to see our people appreciate it. It just feels like something is still there that could be off the charts.
@@HistorySeekers, I believe that too and I have no doubt you guys will be able to find it! And judging by your reply, does that mean I can expect more of these hunts?!
Thank you!
I remember that night that happened. very sad.
Presumably NTSB crew got enough to figure out what happened, but I sure wouldn't expect them to find every single square inch of the plane, even today.
Boyd, D.E.
I would die to have a piece of that plane, being a huge skynyrd fan and a history buff, would add to my collection of historical items.
Thank you for watching.
@@HistorySeekers as always my friends. I need to start another channel just for metal detecting.
@@HistorySeekers you should also metal detect the buddy holly plane crash site in Iowa
Pay the land owner money to detect on it. Money talks.
@@alphacharlie65ms 🤔
That's sacred ground be careful
Apparently the pilots didn't know what the fuel gauge looked like either
Fuel gauge was faulty and had to check the fuel with a stick to get accurate readings...
The day they crashed I was in Korea at a mountain warfare school, I didn't hear about it for weeks. After training I returned to Okinawa to Camp Schwab, Armed Forces Radio play their songs all week or more as I recall. SEMPER FI 👍❤🇺🇸
Thanks for sharing your memory of it and thank you for your service!
I was down at Camp Kinser in 1986 when the Space shuttle Challenger exploded. I worked all over the island though, including up at Schwab. Semper Fi!
Thank you for your service 🇺🇸❤️👍
I went there a week or so after the crash, maybe a little longer. There were no investigators, nobody cleaning anything up -- it was already gone. I had been out of town at a place called Millington -- but when the weekend came around I went back down there. I was living about 9 miles due south of the place. I didn't see anything except a big old hole in the woods, and I turned my Gold Wing over on a little hill and couldn't pick it back up without flagging some guys down to help me.
Memories from a long time ago.
Why are the video’s so short? I could watch an hour of that did. I would also like to see your finds close up and cleaned up at the end.
Thanks for saving the rest of the plane from the earth. It is a part of our history.
Shannon the finds that can be seen up close we try to put a picture up. The button came apart and couldn’t be saved. Unfortunately our cameras don’t have zoom.
Thank you for watching! And thanks for the feedback!
I know you guys aren’t planning to sell anything, but I’d love to know if you change your mind
As long as the families of the dead are cool with it (and apparently they are if they want to put the relics in a museum), I think it is a great thing to find these pieces that would have just rotted in the ground otherwise. I have watched both of your videos on the crash site and maybe someday I will have a chance to see the items you found in a museum. That's an opportunity that I and lots of other fans would never have if it were not for your efforts. Thanks for the videos and giving people a chance to someday see in person these pieces of rock history!
Thank you for the support Jim. Yes we spoke with one of the family members a while back and told them to just let us know when they open the museum.
Rock and Roll hall of fame Cleveland would be good curaters........@@HistorySeekers
This was extremely interesting and sad at the same time...
Take a shot of whiskey each time he says "They said they recovered everything".
He’s as dumb as dirt
The green primer was used to help the paint stick on the plane! I used to paint aircraft and the white or gray was used as away to prevent radar from not being able to detect the plane. It was also used as a camouflage tool. Green prime was also used to protect electronics in aircraft and keep the temperature down inside aircraft.
I would be HUMBLED walking around that area. Having permission to detect the area is insane! I grew up on the band and that story. Thank you for bringing us to the actual site!!
Thanks for watching.
permission, lol. I would fly over the site many times in the early 80's when I flight instructed taking students into MCB. For a couple years you could see the ground scar. I didn't visit the site at ground level until the later 80's. Found many pieces with no metal detector as the ground churns up pieces that were buried in the crash.
@@skyboy1956 wow..did you take any pics of the ground scar? That'd be something..
This is such an unbelievable video Lynyrd Skynyrd are one of my favourite bands of all time and Free Bird is one of my favourite songs. Thank you very much for sharing this incredible content. You now have a new subscriber.
Thank you for watching and subscribing! They will always be one of my favorite bands!
Welcome! Thank you for watching. Be sure to check the first video we did from there. We found a beer that may have been from the band.
Thank you!
5:04 that part is the oil temperature gauge.
The PUSH TO DRAIN button is for the Pitot/Static Drains.
"The pitot tube also has drain holes. If water enters the front of the tube or condenses inside the ram air chamber, it can drain out. Many pitot tubes also include a static port. But, on most IFR certified aircraft, separate static ports on either side of your fuselage measure static pressure."
"A pitot-static system is a system of pressure-sensitive instruments that is most often used in aviation to determine an aircraft's airspeed, Mach number, altitude, and altitude trend. A pitot-static system generally consists of a pitot tube, a static port, and the pitot-static instruments.[1] Other instruments that might be connected are air data computers, flight data recorders, altitude encoders, cabin pressurization controllers, and various airspeed switches. Errors in pitot-static system readings can be extremely dangerous as the information obtained from the pitot static system, such as altitude, is potentially safety-critical. Several commercial airline disasters have been traced to a failure of the pitot-static system"
Thank you for the information. Could any of those parts have played a part in what actually caused this plane to crash?
@@HistorySeekers No, the pitot system failing would cause airspeed and/or altitude indicators to become erratic or give false readings. This would be a factor mainly in very cold weather. The Oil Temperature gauge just shows the engine oil temperature. Neither would cause an engine to stop working.
There is some speculation that in the case of this crash, pilots were attempting to transfer fuel from one wing to the other because one engine was using far more fuel than the other and had nearly exhausted it's fuel supply. This could have been because that engine's fuel mixture was set to "Full Rich" by mistake. In the process of transferring fuel from the other wing, they inadvertantly dumped some of it instead. I can't substantiate any of this, but it is a viable theory and would explain why there were flames coming from one engine according to witnesses. (due to too much fuel being ingested and some of it remaining to burn as the hot, fuel rich exhaust hit the oxygenated outside air.)
Having been around flight training for many years, I can tell you this: A good crew monitors fuel flow and calculates remaining fuel constantly during flight. There is no way an error this big could happen unless the crew was very, very complacent and not following standard practices and procedures. My opinion is that this crew was just going through the motions and may have been distracted by outside influences. (Aerosmith is quoted as saying that they turned down this plane and crew because bottles of alcohol were being passed around between the crew on the plane. Of course this is hearsay). I don't mean to point fingers at the dead, but it is a very suspicious case. I'll leave it at that. RIP all who perished.
loved the first trip...this one is fantastic...you're digging up Rock History !!
Thank you so much!
Awesome Video and Awesome Finds History Seekers! Your doing an excellent job with this series Heath... great editing too!
Thanks Ed!
Thank you!
That button that you found the says push to drain maybe what the pilots pushed to drain the fuel tank. If it is that's an important part because the story says that they accidentally dumped Fuel and that's why the plane crashed
Could be... if so that is HUGE!!!! May know Scott would find it.
Great info! I'm going to try to reach out to some sources to see if we can nail down it's purpose.
I watched 3 plus hours about the plane crash tonight. One of the vids a man said he seen them dump the fuel because it was going down. That likely saved the survivors lives
They didn’t dump the fuel, that’s a myth. The official accident report is online if you want to read it.
Great Video! Thanks again guys I had a blast and Thanks to Kevin Bob he’s the man!
Thanks brother! Happy that you made it out with us. Congrats on the civil war bullet too! I heard yall had fun.
Thanks! It was great to meet you and hunt with you!
Keep up The GOOD work bro you guys are fantastic! 👍💪😎
Thank you!!!!
Thank you!
Hey just an idea you may want to check the trunk of the bigger trees. The reason being a friend of mine was in a bad street bike accident and they found his front brake caliper embedded into a tree about 1/8 of a mile down the road. I can almost bet that's the same case here at this crash sight. Just a thought good luck of your findings.✌🏼
Thank you for realizing the historical aspect to the site. No matter what people's opinions on the crash site are, it appears to be someone's private property and they control access to the site. It would be nice if Judy or the Skynyrd group would purchase the wooded area and deem it a sanctuary.
If you look back on some of the old videos, they said they buried most of the little things that were left
Really cool site and video! My blind self needs that metal detector haha 1 button and done, that’s right up my alley! 😎 Great video!
Man when you come out with us we will get you fixed up.
Haha! Join Scott and Heath and their endless squinting because they forget their cheating glasses! 🤓
Kelly - History Seekers Hahaha
Thank you!
You guys do a great job of saving these priceless pieces of american history. Thanks for all you do!
Thank you sir!
Thank you for watching!
What do you guys do with what you find?
The oil temperature gauge is simply amazing, what a find.
We thought so too. Wish we could find the fuel gauge.
It is an amazing find!
It's definitely not the oil gauge..just look at the freeze frame with the piece they found ..the 2 middle numbers are much farther apart on the piece they found then the oil gauge pic
d cy that is why we are leaning toward the oil temp. What do you think?
@@fcukyou2_ It looks like it tops out at 150º-160º, which seems low for oil temperature, but maybe aircraft engines are different? I'm guessing you'd see something a little higher in a car's gasoline engine.
Surprised Judy Van Zant hadn’t tried to stop this.
This is insane, great stuff. Love these kind of digs!!
Thank you Curt. You should see the stuff in our first video from there. It is even better.
@@HistorySeekers, oh I have watched them all!!
Thank you!
That had to be one of the coolest hunts ever!!
Very interesting! My husband was good friends with Ed King when he was in music business. I also knew Jo Jo Billingsley(Debra Jo White was her name I knew her by) she sang at our church and lived near my moms Best friend. One nice lady! Told us lots of stories of her time as a Honkette.
Wow! Thank you for sharing. Would have loved to hear those stories.
Just took a motor bike ride with friends to the memorial site. It was very nice memorial to honor them. Didn’t know people could metal detect there. That would be so cool.
The actual crash site is posted property. The memorial isn’t where the crash actually happened.
Great finds, nice that you guys were able to go back there + be able to field test the vanquish.
Thanks man. We need you to ID that knob for us. lol
Thanks Jeremy! Did you get out today?
@@HistorySeekers lol....i worked on buses not planes but they probably share similar equipment. Since it said push to drain, could be fuel, sewage or a number of things. I will search the web.
@@kellyhistoryseekers3090 not today Kelly. Hopefully I will do some digging tomorrow....new areas opened up by bush hog.
@@HistorySeekers that other piece with the half circle cut out that is broken with the wafer like stuff similar to Kellys fuse would be some kind of electrical part. That wafer like material would isolate something from grounding out.
What a tragic loss that was. I'm really surprised that they didn't get fuel when before they left for their next destination.
Heaven has the best music.
Wow! Those are some cool finds for sure. I don't know how I would feel going there and digging up stuff, it's definitely a sacred site. Also there's no way the NTSB got everything. Theres probably a lot of other stuff beyond this area cuz that plane was moving very fast and got shredded by the trees on the way down. Just very sad, I couldn't do this, good luck guys.
HISTORY, SOME PEOPLE MAY THINK THIS IS MORBID, BUT I SEE IT AS WHAT THE NTSB DID NOT FIND, OR DID NOT CARE TO LOOK FOR, SO WHAT A ROCK AND ROLL BAND HAD A MISHAP, OH WELL, LET'S MAKE A GOOD INTERVIEW AND CALL IT A DAY, WELL IT MATTERS TO ME, I LOST FRIENDS THAT DAY, AND I CARE STILL TO THIS DAY, THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS, IT SHOULD MEAN A LOT TO MANY PEOPLE, MAY THEY ALL R.I.P., THEY HERE HUMAN BEINGS THAT LOST THIER LIFE, PERIOD, MAY IT BE A ROCK BAND OR FRANK SINATRA, COUSIN FIGEL
Thank you for watching. We too see it as a follow up investigation that should have been done better.
I've been to mccomb,Greenville sc,and visited the memorial garden in Jacksonville fla....I love the music and always have....Thank you for this guys
Thanks for watching. If you missed our first trip out there. Check that video out. We found even better stuff.
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The green paint is called Zinc Chromate Primer .
Thank you Terrance.
Yes I was in the Air Force and worked in the paint shop and I agree with you about the zinc chromate. If I remember correctly it was a primer that was used on two dissimilar metals that were fitted together and gave the paint something to hold to.
Wow awesome job y’all!!! Great video again, it’s so crazy how much is still out there especially since they said they that they recovered everything!!! Love Ms. Debbie’s shirt too!!!
Thanks buddy. Yes that is cool. Kelly has one too.they don’t have them in my size lol
History Seekers that’s to bad you would rock that shirt!!! I wish they sold them, I want one so bad!!!
Thank you!
Good times right there! Double trouble was a great tune!
The primer paint your referring to is probably Zinc Chromate. At the 7:20 mark that looks like a part of a Phenolic block that may have secured something like a hydraulic line. I used to recover crashed aircraft, in areas like you were in it is next to impossible to find every part of the aircraft. Thanks for posting the video, very interesting.
Thank you!
The part that says "push to adjust" is from the altimeter, or the heading indicator. On an altimeter, you use it to set the pressure for the atmospheric conditions around you so the altimeter reads right. On the heading indicator, you use it to set the heading indicator when you line up on the runway so the indicator matches the runway heading. What a cool find!
Thank you!
Definitely thinking about that vanquish as a backup, saw your used one for sale, very tempting! Love that oil gauge, what an AMAZING piece of history to hold on to!
Thank you!
When you guys said your searching for parts of the airplane, I thought maybe you'll find one or two tiny fragments, I mean, I've seen you already have 20 or more pieces, ntsb, wow, there's a wake-up call. Maybe because they were a rock band, I was 17 years old with long hair, and I can tell you that prejudice was alive and well, I'd love to be a fly and have heard what the ntsb and local cops and other assorted bullies had said under their breath. Anyway, thank you guys for putting the time and effort to uncover the lapse of those in charge back then. I'm grateful as a huge fan back in the 70's, they happened to be my favorite bands. 🙏
Thank you for watching John!
Thank you for doing this. This is so interesting to see, such an important spot for the history of American music
Thank you! Be sure to check out the first video that we did there. Some more amazing history. It is almost to 500,000 views on our first video from there.
That is a sacred site!!
Yes it is
I'm a history addict, and agree that this is a secret site. But unfortunately there are thousands of sites and places that death has occurred and many of us don't even know or realize these places. and that's what makes addiction so crazy because that's something else I study about and spirit possession and addiction go hand in hand period our bodies were made to house a soul so yes there are souls and spirits out there that can take over the soul that's in your body if you don't put your foot down about it and make changes kind of thing. And sacred land brings me to think about the Indians and all of the death but it's not only the Indians it's so much death before then and before then and then before then period all over the world. There's nothing but different time frames were a bunch of people have died and souls are just floating up in the droves. Just so the world knows it's very important that you learn astral travel so you can control your soul and that you learn Ascension so you know what to do there's a part of you that's going to know what to do when it comes your time to pass on. the big dilemma here is either the souls get taken down to the roots or the souls just keep floating up higher than high and go away so high that their energy ball just starts collecting dust and you turn into an asteroid and then that collects you know more and more and more and I think that's what the asteroids are is just floating souls that are stuck there and then they crash down to the Earth and they're rocks and I think all the souls are in these rocks and I think that River rocks are possibly just souls that floated up collected a bunch of debris and the outer space and then they come crashing down. To me every square inch of this land is sacred and the concrete is really pissing the Earth off cuz it covers it. I don't know if anybody has ever had a Band-Aid that just won't stay on but that's what concrete is to the Earth and one day it's just going to erupt that's what earthquakes are all about it's just a big air bubble of airborne mold or airborne bacteria and it just creates a big air bubble down there and it actually is physically something but when that something decides to leave that area then poof there's nothing holding it up and you got yourself a gigantic sinkhole. Where I live there's a ton of caves and mining caves for Miles underneath this dirt and all you got to do is run some leaky water for days and all that stuff is going to cave in so it makes sense to me how California could just slip off the land because of the fault level so if anybody were to attack the fault line it sink the whole state the California . The funny thing is I constantly hear water gushing underneath the dirt it's like a heavy flow of a creek or something like a heavy flow like out of a dam so I don't know why there's so much of that that I hear because it's definitely not the freeway.
Remember it's United we stand and divided we fall forever more worldwide. This is God's Game of Life everybody. It's up to us to make the changes. Killing somebody because of land is not the answer we already know that. And we've just got to pray to God that the people can understand this this is no joke because this is not just a small section of the world that is going to be into havoc it's going to end up just killing the whole planet and all the people on it and that is going to be one sacred planet if we don't do something about it. I choose to live I want to live I'm 57 years old and I just started living. Let's see if we can hold hands and go twice around the world and be different . Happy holidays and God bless to everyone.
As always Awesome video you always do a super job thanks for taking us along 😁
Thank you for the support Mary
Thank you!
N.T.S.B. or some good hearted southern folk ?
I'm going with the latter.
As a Floridian and a L.S. fan, thank you. Proud to be a Rebel cause the souths gonna do it again.
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God bless you all.
May they all be resting in peace.
Thank you for the video. I enjoy them all but this one means a lot.
Thank you! Did you catch the first one?
@@HistorySeekers Yes I did.
Thanks for watching!
Amazing!! I am going to order a devise and get into the woods with the kids this summer!!
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Do it! It is great for fresh air and exercise!
Very cool - the next best thing to being there. Hope y'all are staying healthy, thank you and best wishes!
Stay healthy Scott! If you have Facebook, please join our group there, the History Seekers.
Thanks Scott. Yes we are doing well. We have enough video to edit to stay inside a couple more weeks.
Thank you Scott! Same to you and yours!
Having been a Naval Aviation Tech for 20 years, the one item you found that you weren't sure of the material it was made of but thought it was from the interior of the cockpit is a Micata block. Micata is a laminated none conductive material invented by Westinghouse used in aircraft as supports for wire bundles and tubing for fuel, hydraulics, and bleed air systems. The curve is where the bundle or tubing lays as it is supported throughout the aircraft.
Thank you for letting us know and watching. Be sure to watch our first video from this site. We found many other items that we are looking for help getting identified.
Yes micarta made by westinghouse
Could be bakelite but you can tell if you look close and micarta has layers
Great job guys. Hey Heath, looks like your investigator skills are still going strong. Nice to see once again, Civil War items are not the only history in our back yards. Now find the Emilia Airhardt plane.
Thank you William. Yes, once a cop always a cop I guess. We would love to find more places like this outside of our usual civil war sites.
Thanks for watching!
Very very cool site! It is crazy that there are so many targets left there. Guess the technology back then with metal detecting was not very good compared to today. Awesome job guys!
Thank you for watching. Yes, tech has came a long way.
True. I also don't know how much they used metal detectors for these investigations back in the 70s.
@@historyseekersscott3672 They may have just walked the site and just picked up what they could see. Just seems like a lot of debris left behind. More for you to find I guess!
An aircraft crash site is rarely clinically cleaned and you will always find small bits. The investigators normally know what they are looking for, the rest is left on site.
Peter, we would agree but you should see some of the pieces also found in the first video. Keep in mind we were out there less than 2 hours each time.
Great finds everyone, there is no telling what is of there. Enjoyed the video and as always be Safe and HH my friends.
It has surprised us both times we went.
Great vid guys! very interesting place to hunt! GL & HH
Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Great Job Gang. Awesome how Y'all are still finding parts to that tragic event so it's not lost forever.👍#seeker4life
Thank you!!!
Thank you for watching!
Great video heath ! great saves everyone !
Thank you Bill. Look forward to seeing you at the Chatanooga show this year.
Stay safe Bill! Hope the weather clears up so you can at least leave the house and dig!
Thank you!
Mark Howard who was on that plane has a channel call Back stage . Anyway he was told that after they took the parts of the plane what was left small pieces where buried in a big hole. There's a warehouse that has the parts too. He went there an got some small pieces of the plane. Anyway cool stuff and I will definitely keep watching. Thanks 😊🇺🇸NJ
Amazing gauge find!!
yes, we were shocked to see that pop out of the ground.
It was awesome!
Definitely more there! Good job team!
Thanks Jon
Always enjoy watching.
Thank you!
Thank you!
Love all the detail you put into your videos thank you for sharing I'm only been detecting since Christmas and find you guys so informative
Welcome Mark! If we can ever help please let us know. This is such a great hobby! If you are not in our Facebook group feel free to join. It’s listed as The History Seekers.
Great Job guys! So glad yall have that permission!
Thanks Brandon. You are going to have to go with us some day.
@@HistorySeekers Would love to!
Thanks!
The primer is called Zinc-Chromate. the primer starts to turn brown at 350F
Thank you
Very interesting area to bring history to light. Nice finds, be well.
Thank you. Be sure to check out our first video. From this site. It has almost 400,000 views currently. Some amazing finds in it too.
Interesting second video. Debbie is lovely, I met her at the Toronto, Canada Vanquish launch. Great machine.
Andrew, yes Debbie is a great friend and we love when she is able to come to dig with us.
Personally.... I think detecting a crash/fatal site is kinda like detecting in a grave yard. Bad JuJu comes with it
I guess other than the fact nobody has ever been buried there. But thanks for watching anyway.
Yeah like taking artifacts from the titanic.
@@HistorySeekers it's actually more bad energy than a graveyard imo, people's souls left their body at this place. If you believe in that sort of stuff ya know?
I wouldn't feel good about detecting where people lost their lives but that's just my opinion. Everyone is different
I kind of think it's a little bit morbid
I'll bet the landowner has a garage full of Peavey gear with some scratches but fully functional.
I would love to be able to hunt this site. Y’all are truly awesome doing this. It is amazing that you are still finding parts of the plane.
Thank you. What state are you in? If we get in that area we will see what we can do.
History Seekers, I’m in Houston, Tx
The Crafty Realtor, I have a close friend with the Sheriff’ Dept in the Sugarland area we plan to visit. Will keep that in mind after all the virus stuff is over.
Thank you so much for watching!
Really enjoyed the video! What an amazing opportunity to be able to hunt this site for a second time. Incredible finds.
Thank you! Kelly wrote a great article on it in the magazine also. Not sure if you saw that one.
The property is fenced off with Barbed wire and no trespassing signs. the man that owns the property does not give permission .people have offered money to go out there and he says no. I don't know how you guys got out there.
Well that is not the section where the crash happened. But we have exclusive permission and just have to notify them each time before we go. We have a well established reputation and have worked on project to include Andersonville Prison with NPS archaeologist.
@@HistorySeekers That's awesome.my buddy went out there years ago And he couldn't get permission he even offered money to somebody and they said no .so that's cool you have that kind of trust. thank you
@@HistorySeekers I live in Baton Rouge and visited the site this weekend and talked to rescuer Jamie Wall, and board member Krystina. I would love to join y’all with my ACE 250 if you go again, I was unaware y’all came but spoke to Jamie about recovering some pieces for their proposed museum shadow boxes. Let me know thanks. Chad
The piece at 7:00 in, looks like it could be part of a phenolic block. They are wooden clamps for hydraulic lines, so they don't chaff through the line.
Great job guys and good to see you again Debbie
Thank you! Yes, Debbie is awesome!
Debbie would prefer it if you refered to her as Debbie Minelab Princess Vanquish Guru Extraordinaire. Lol
Thanks for watching!
I seen Lynyrd Skynyrd band back in nineteen seventy something I can as I can remember in Hattiesburg Mississippi and they were awesome
Thank you for sharing.
I don't find it very surprising at all that you are finding items. A plane hitting the ground and busting up like that is going to leave bits and pieces everywhere. Add to it that the technology your using is unbelievably better than what was available back then. But awesome video! I am hooked on our channel!
Thank you Travis.
You are right. Thank you!
You guys had some more good finds with this hunt. Thanks for the videos!
Thank you!
I’ve worked on an NTSB crash investigation (Charlotte NC). There is almost no chance that every piece of wreckage from a crash is recovered. Mainly as the investigation progresses causes are narrowed down, if a particular system of an aircraft ( fuel, electrical, engines, pneumatics, hydraulics...etc) is determined to be at fault the hunt will be on for the remaining components of that system, once recovered the search for parts and manpower allotted becomes reduced.
Understand. What are your thoughts from reading the reports from this case? Eye witness reports seeing leaking fuel and fire shooting from the engine. Yet it’s listed as pilot error for the most part estimating fuel consumption. Would be interested if you think finding more of the parts that had fuel on it then would have changed the outcome?