LT B. Smith White Lewis Peppers * *88 balls defended/batted, 44 forced fumbles, 175 tackles for loss, 159.5 sacks (77 different qbs),186 qb hits, 11int.. Perspective: all time leader in balls defended was CB champ baily with 203. Peppers had 88 and he played line +80% of the time... The fact that he was snubbed from NFL 100 team, is a complete failure... Peppers may just have been the #1 all around defensive player ever. Sorry Donald... Not yet my man. You got some work to do big fella.
@@happyface35 How many years did Peppers play? Answer: more than twice as long. Was Peppers great? Undoubtedly. Donald is approaching those numbers in less than 1/2 the time. Gretzky had much greater career numbers than Lemieux, but Lemieux had a 3-4 year run that no one has equaled. Who's better? Up for debate. We'll see with AD
To further your point, when playing the rams Donald is the 1st and by far most extensive factor in opposing teams game plan. There is no way for a stat sheet to account for teammates stats as well as teams minimizing how often they pass the ball all because Donald. Stats won't show how many fewer deep balls a team will even attempt because they know the receivers won't have time to get down field. People often talk about Steph curry's "gravity" on the court, that is also the perfect way to describe someone like Donald. His presence permeates throughout the game in ways stats cannot show.
Right. Skip gives sack numbers in games for a DT who's job is to fight and beat double teams....like DT are supposed to get a bunch of sacks. The fact that he gets double digit sacks every year. There hasnt been another one to ever do that
@@crittoneida958 agreed. It's harder to get sacks as a DT because the line of scrimmage congested in the middle as opposed to an edge rusher who has more space to operate. And Aaron Donald is STILL putting up edge rusher numbers. Surreal
Lawrence Taylor is the last defensive player to have won MVP. Ray Lewis won DPOY and SB MVP in his 2000 season which he led one of the most suffocating defensive units of all time. My current Mount Rushmore for defensive players are Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor, Ray Lewis and Deion Sanders
I’d wouldn’t put Deion up there unpopular opinion only bc he struggled covering the crossing route, and yes you have to tackle if you want to be on a Mt Rushmore for defensive players
If you’re double teamed almost every play you’ve done your job BUT he also produces numbers. All time great no doubt. Before him and JJ d-tackles getting double digit sacks were fairly rare. John randle was one of favs growing up.
As a Bears fan, Khalil Mack fell completely off. There was once a time when people were debating who was the better player. Funny part is Leonard Floyd played with both of them in their primes
Most fans, and even some "analysts" fail to acknowledge the fact that Donald is an interior defensive linemen. He is such an efficient pass rusher despite having a high double team rate
That's cuz AD learned it from the first one to do it and that was John Randal a guy that wasn't given any opportunity to play cuz he was too small in the NFL until he came to the Vikings. He revolutionized the DT position that proved smaller DTs can be a superstar cuz back in those days u had to be a big guy to play at that position. AD is great but there are alot of great defensive players that played that were on some other level.
It’s crazy to hear Shannon read AD’s stat lines since he entered the league knowing damn and well he’s double teamed every play not to mention a RB in the back field waiting for AD to beat that double team and even with 2 often times 3 blockers on him he still gets to the QB the most. By A CRAZY margin. AD is one of the 4 most impactful players to a single team in nfl history you could argue for even top 3 maybe even 2
@@austinnherrera6272 ok to have an opinion. So let me get this straight: Your building a defense and you have to chose between Dieon and Aaron Donald. You would pick Dieon?
@@playlistiphone8743 I easily can see how one would pick Donald to start a defense and I’ll even give that do you. Donald is a monster bottom line and definitely has potential to be the best defensive player to ever play
Defensive Lineman rarely get the recognition they deserve. Cliff Avril should have been the MVP in SB 48, but they gave it to Malcom Butler (whose Int was a tip by Avril). He was also the MVP in SB 49 until the concussion.
When you watched Giants games in the LT era, you actually felt fear for the opposing QB. He was all anyone was thinking about. And when LT would take over the game, it was electrifying.
Best of his generation, best interior D lineman since Sapp and a first ballot HOFer. Forget the hyperbole. You just cant be better than LT, Ray Lewis, Reggie and Prime.
@@Elusivve Nope LT won MVP in a league with Marino, Montana, Elway, Kelly playing QB. He changed the game. There's nothing lazier than when people go oh he was just a pass rusher, no he was tremendous everywhere we just talk about his pass rushing because it was off the charts in a league where teams threw the ball way way less than today.
You definitely can make an argument that Aaron Donald is top 5.. When teams drafting DT’s they looking for Aaron Donald’s.. Just like when teams drafting at CB they looking for Deion sanders type players or drafting pass rushers they looking for LT, Bruce smith or Reggie white type of players. Aaron Donald is in that tier now He’s the standard in today’s game.
All the years Aaron Donald has played in the league, it's been a handicap for the offense(from a rules standpoint), making Donald's accomplishments even more impressive.
I hate seeing people try to compare a LB to a DT. DTs do the dirty work that only football players (or aficionados something Skip thinks he is) can really appreciate. LBs are flashy and even casual fans can see what they do.
@@interceptingfist5682 LT had some of the best defenses of all time around him; so he wasn't doubled/tripled as much as Donald. He was also an OLB, so he SHOULD have more sacks than an interior DT... yet, AD's numbers are about the same. AD > LT
All beasts. I like the the love for Sanders. If a guy today could actually shut down a side of the field like Prime could, football analysts would lose their minds.
I still think that the Ravens Defense with Suggs on the line, Ray up the middle, and Reed in the backfield. Was the most ridiculous Defensive combination in the history of the NFL. I felt sorry for EVERY single team that had to face that defense.
My Defensive Mt. Rushmore 🗿(Top 5) Deion Sanders, LT (NYG) Ronnie Lott, Bruce Smith (No Order)… then I have a few players I just can’t choose from 🤦♂️, below in No order ⬇️ Ray Lewis, Mike Singletary, Reggie White, Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, Mean Joe Green, maybe D-Revis?? 🤷♂️
@@James-yf7vy I understand you, but try to understand me. Mean Joe Green I watched a ton on UA-cam & ESPN highlights. Example - Tomorrow’s generation will think Cooper Kupp is honestly BETTER than Jerry Rice 😳😔 // I love Reggie White too, but I did list Bruce Smith, the man played almost 20 yrs + he played a lot in a 3-4 Defense, yet still had 200 Sacks 🤦🏻♂️ that’s UnReal!!! Reggie played in a 4-3 defense, so he had more lineman Help
Lol Deion... Best coverage corner EVER fo sho! However he couldn't tackle a paper bag. In heavy run 1st Era his weakness couldn't be masked. He got trucked by Dave Brown (trash NYG QB)smfh. Ray & Reggie 4 & 5 for me.
It becomes a non debatable point to me when they talk about how much this man has been double teamed and still putting up hall of fame numbers. It’s not even close in my mind.
Lawrence Taylor is the only player in NFL history to put legitimate FEAR into offensive players’ heads. Aaron Donald is great but he isnt LT. He just isnt. And mind you LT has an MVP AND 2 rings. Aaron Ronald has a lot of ground to cover. One superbowl isnt going to make this a legit argument.
@@zacwoods yea and that was back when you could absolutely VIOLATE quarterbacks. If these quarterbacks had to worry about AD doing those things to them they would be JUST AS SCARED. Quarterbacks are Protected by the league more than the damn pentagon nowadays. That’s a horrible argument. And LT won the MVP. I can’t do anything but give kudos to that. But I don’t care about team achievements like Super Bowls when we are talking about best individual players.
As far as defensive linemen go, Aaron Donald is definitely up there with the best. Reggie White, Bruce Smith, Deacon Jones, Michael Strahan were all considered the best, and now you have to mention Aaron Donald in the conversation with them.
@@YounginBallin LT was a OLB though. I would say with a SB he is top 3 and w/ a sb mvp i would say top 2. If he plays at this level for another 2 - 3 years then he has a legit chance to be #1 and at worst #2 regardless what happens on Sunday
@@dupreehundo3070 no I didn't. Sapp was great, but he wasn't on their level. Each one of the individuals that I listed had to be game planned around. You didn't have to change your entire system because of Sapp.
Why do you guys like to say things like this? You already trying to put Lebron over MJ! NOT!!!! Now you want to put Donald over Lawrence Taylor. NEVER!!! You are living in the moment! WAKE UP!
He's top 5 with or without a Superbowl ring but certainly not number #1 that spot belongs to Lawrence Taylor and Reggie White is arguably number 2 and Ray Lewis is also ahead of Donald
@@frankburn6312 I'm a Cowboys fan so you know that I'm fine with putting Deion in the top 5, but you certainly could debate Donald vs Bruce Smith, because remember Aaron Donald is one of only 2 players to ever win 3 defensive player of the year awards
Here after 99 ended the Super Bowl much like he ended the NFC Championship Game...winning the game by getting to the QB when it mattered most. Top 5 All Time, Offense or Defense. May be the greatest defensive player of all time.
He's a short, small, quick and strong DT. The NFL experts preach Leverage, Leverage Leverage but keep signing 6'6 linemen. A good 6 ft, 6-1, 300-315lb guard would make life easy going against Donald. Low man wins most of the time.
AD is the best swimming pass rusher ever. No contest. He's had a countless amount of plays where he is just not touched at all. But AD's run defense and presence is what drops him for me. He just doesn't take up enough space and hold multiple olinemen in place like a prime Cox, Snacks, or Suh. Still top 20 all-time though.
I feel like defensive players don’t need rings for validation unless they win MVP or really dominated the game. I don’t think I would move him up or down the list much for this one game. I could be wrong though.
Aaron Donald is really that dude. He's already regarded as top 5 player in the league. Not just defensively, but altogether. What does that tell you about how great he really is as a defender? In a QB centered and offense centered league. If he's regarded the way he is by fans and peers the way he is now and he's only 30, I think he just might retire as the greatest defender to ever play the game. This is one of those guys who even if you come up with the best and most positive adjectives to describe his greatness, you're probably still selling him short.
I like how these guys think they know football, and don't even put Deacon Jones or Alan Page in their top 5 Defensive players. Alan Page actually won an MVP as a Defensive Tackle/end. No one has done that again. He was the JJ Watt of his era, but had closer to 20 good seasons at it. Deacon Jones had season with over 20 sacs, Multiple. and OH BY THE WAY THOSE WERE 14 GAME SEASONS.
The reason he “flashed more” is not only based on talent, or scheme, it’s largely based on who is across the line with him....Vaughn Miller is one of those names. It was the same with Charles, as it was wit Damaracus Lawrence. You can be a good player, but when you’re the only good player on the line it’s easy for you to disappear(depending on level of talent dictates level of transparency) As soon as you have a person who the offense has to pay a smidgit of legit attention to along side your star; the good players become great, and the great become UNSTOPPABLE!
The difference between AD and the other great pass rushers is, aside from Warren Sapp, they are basically all edge rushers. The fact he's doing what he does at DT is what makes him a top 5 pass rusher all time.
Vita Vea is super underrated. Teams also scheme for him very simply: 2-4 men on him, no less lmao. The way that man disrupts a whole line or 3/5 AND the backfield by literally going straight forward is stupid crazy. And he can reach left or right for a tackle deceptively fast. Talking about a man who it's rare to see push back less than 2 other full grown men. Minimum. It's insane. I think next year, he could maybe take a leap and be considered a top 5 defensive PLAYER in the league today. Pretty sure he's already the only or one of the only NTs isn't he?
honestly that's a pretty decent argument. everybody praising AD but I just want to see someone come out and say he's better than LT, but they'd be committed to a psych ward.
In this offense centric NFL I have to say Arron Donald is playing with rules set against him and he is still putting up these types of numbers. Shannon is right top 5 for sure.
The rules are set against DBs, not DL really. He just has to rush the passer and tackle RBs. This also helps him, more offensive plays, more tackles, more sacks, etc etc.
@@mrjonsey Have you not been watching football the past two seasons? Anything more aggressive than a mild push to sack the QB is going to be a penalty.
@@EmmanuelTurner245225 that’s when you get to the QB, his actual job hasn’t changed because of the rules, they just cant hit QBs below the knee and on the head but it’s not like they told them they have to play with one hand behind their backs or something.
Yea I don't think he's eveb one to Deon at all, even if he wins the supers bowl, because a lot of the time when they needed him to show him Donald doesn't especially against the packers got shut down by a back up oline, and if he performs EXTREMELY well this super then maybe, but I really don't see his ype at all at least in comparison to the greats
@@blaqueazzme in the biggest games he wasn't, he's been performing pretty well yhia play offs, but some of the biggest games I'm talking about are primarily against the packers, last 2 years he was shut down by either David or backup oline in post or regular season, but I just want him to be consistently great I'm the games that matter, and he hasn't
I'll accept what Shannon says he's top 5 but the game did not change because of him. LT changed how the game was played, he is the top man until someone else makes the game change because of that person.
Exactly. Great player but he’s the Drew Brees of defensive players. The stats are legendary but he did not change the game like Deion, LT or even Ray Lewis.
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Peppers *
*88 balls defended/batted, 44 forced fumbles, 175 tackles for loss, 159.5 sacks (77 different qbs),186 qb hits, 11int..
Perspective: all time leader in balls defended was CB champ baily with 203. Peppers had 88 and he played line +80% of the time... The fact that he was snubbed from NFL 100 team, is a complete failure... Peppers may just have been the #1 all around defensive player ever.
Sorry Donald... Not yet my man. You got some work to do big fella.
@@happyface35
How many years did Peppers play?
Answer: more than twice as long.
Was Peppers great?
Undoubtedly.
Donald is approaching those numbers in less than 1/2 the time.
Gretzky had much greater career numbers than Lemieux, but Lemieux had a 3-4 year run that no one has equaled.
Who's better?
Up for debate.
We'll see with AD
Donald sometimes doesn’t fill the stat sheet but he is a menace. Teams game plan for him specifically for him. Definitely top 5
To further your point, when playing the rams Donald is the 1st and by far most extensive factor in opposing teams game plan. There is no way for a stat sheet to account for teammates stats as well as teams minimizing how often they pass the ball all because Donald. Stats won't show how many fewer deep balls a team will even attempt because they know the receivers won't have time to get down field. People often talk about Steph curry's "gravity" on the court, that is also the perfect way to describe someone like Donald. His presence permeates throughout the game in ways stats cannot show.
Exactly. He’s one of those guy that you have to watch the game to see the real impact that he has. He’s a nightmare for offenses
Facts I might not get hella tackle but he the reason the qb get hurried and throw pic AD IS A BAD MAN
Shannon right, at this point
And than they gotta worry about von Miller,Robinson and Leonard Floyd💀
Of course LT’s motor “ran hotter” than AD’s. LT was on coke. 🤣
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Cough.........Any given Sunday lol
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@@williamwatsoniii3895 🤣🤣🤣🤣 LT wasn't acting on that movie .....he was himself
I love when Shannon shares his knowledge of the game. Peak commentary
Right. Skip gives sack numbers in games for a DT who's job is to fight and beat double teams....like DT are supposed to get a bunch of sacks. The fact that he gets double digit sacks every year. There hasnt been another one to ever do that
@@crittoneida958 uhh yes there has
@@stevewalsh5668 yep. Kinda botched that one....white, Millard, randle, Sapp.....there have been others.....AD has more 10+ sack seasons tho.....
@@crittoneida958 agreed. It's harder to get sacks as a DT because the line of scrimmage congested in the middle as opposed to an edge rusher who has more space to operate. And Aaron Donald is STILL putting up edge rusher numbers. Surreal
30 year old Aaron Donald is a kid now…
“Joe Burrow is going to have 99 problems and AD is it.” -Shannon Sharpe
that was a bar
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This aged like fine wine since AD CLOSED THE GAME
AD is all 99 of em. Lol
Lawrence Taylor is the last defensive player to have won MVP.
Ray Lewis won DPOY and SB MVP in his 2000 season which he led one of the most suffocating defensive units of all time.
My current Mount Rushmore for defensive players are
Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor, Ray Lewis and Deion Sanders
Perfect Rushmore tbh. At the moment I think Donald is around Singletary or Lott level.
That's a legit list.
Very legit.
Reggie White, Deacon Jones, Deion Sanders, Lawrence Taylor and Aaron Donald
I’d wouldn’t put Deion up there unpopular opinion only bc he struggled covering the crossing route, and yes you have to tackle if you want to be on a Mt Rushmore for defensive players
If you’re double teamed almost every play you’ve done your job BUT he also produces numbers. All time great no doubt. Before him and JJ d-tackles getting double digit sacks were fairly rare. John randle was one of favs growing up.
@Rell Mitchell he plays interior lineman tho
@Rell Mitchell he’s been a 3-4 DE most of his career, which essentially a interior lineman
LT the greatest defensive player period!
@@spenser6353 no
Warren Sapp no?
Shannon is at his best during these segments
I hope you now will admit Lebron is better than MJ If you think Shannon is at his moment of best during so many segments.
@@jamesnelson5618 Lol not even close
@@spendsshanks6050 thank you I am glad you Knew about Exactly it will never Be True At all sometimes Shannon is Not Perfect but in the most part.
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@@jamesnelson5618 u can’t judge because it’s his opinion
As a Bears fan, Khalil Mack fell completely off. There was once a time when people were debating who was the better player.
Funny part is Leonard Floyd played with both of them in their primes
Yeah but we got to consider that Khalil is on the bears
Khalil is the only pass rusher for the bears, that’s the issue with him aging badly. Still a good player but cannot produce as the only d linemen
@@TripleLayerLemonCake are you kidding me... Robert quin had a legendary season tf!?!?!
he was a sack a game player this season until his injury
@@TripleLayerLemonCake mack played injured but he is not Aaron donald
Most fans, and even some "analysts" fail to acknowledge the fact that Donald is an interior defensive linemen. He is such an efficient pass rusher despite having a high double team rate
My son idolize his game off Aaron Donald..... Not the biggest not the tallest but damn sure the baddest..... AD top 5 for sure
AD is one of the biggest....
@@VaanRavi not really he 6’0 285 not really ideal for a dt. You want them to be 6’2-6’4and closer to 300 lbs if not more. And he still a beast
@@VaanRavi no he's not he's 6'1 275 hes just built but he's is not the biggest.... He's just an elite guy
@@VaanRavi myles garret 6'4 tj watt 6'4 nick bosa 6'4 most great defensive players 6'3 and up
That's cuz AD learned it from the first one to do it and that was John Randal a guy that wasn't given any opportunity to play cuz he was too small in the NFL until he came to the Vikings. He revolutionized the DT position that proved smaller DTs can be a superstar cuz back in those days u had to be a big guy to play at that position. AD is great but there are alot of great defensive players that played that were on some other level.
Donald’s value doesn’t always show up on paper he’s a DT
TJ Watt 🤔?
Exactly
@@Theenableduser he is 3-4 defensive end
@@Glacien3 What does that mean🤔? Listen I like Donald but I've seen Watt win games for the Steelers....he got robbed for DPOY!!!
@@Theenableduser he plays on the edge he’s basically always getting 1v1
People also forget he plays on the interior. the difficulty on that alone is something that gets dismissed.
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It’s crazy to hear Shannon read AD’s stat lines since he entered the league knowing damn and well he’s double teamed every play not to mention a RB in the back field waiting for AD to beat that double team and even with 2 often times 3 blockers on him he still gets to the QB the most. By A CRAZY margin. AD is one of the 4 most impactful players to a single team in nfl history you could argue for even top 3 maybe even 2
He Will Be Top 3 with a Title, But Like Shannon said He's already top 5.
One 🏆🤔? INTERESTING!!
who are the other 4?
@@playlistiphone8743 just my opinion but LT, Reggie White, Ray Lewis, Deion Sanders
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ok to have an opinion.
So let me get this straight:
Your building a defense and you have to chose between Dieon and Aaron Donald.
You would pick Dieon?
@@playlistiphone8743 I easily can see how one would pick Donald to start a defense and I’ll even give that do you. Donald is a monster bottom line and definitely has potential to be the best defensive player to ever play
If Rams win like 20-17 and Stafford and Kupp dont have big numbers and Donald has like 2.5 Sacks, 2 TFL, 5 QB Hits he will MVP.
Defensive Lineman rarely get the recognition they deserve. Cliff Avril should have been the MVP in SB 48, but they gave it to Malcom Butler (whose Int was a tip by Avril). He was also the MVP in SB 49 until the concussion.
Well duh??? Lmao that's a lot of factors tho, won't happen
Oh that would be a sight to see whens the last time a defensive player on SB MVP
in your scenario, Stafford doesn’t need big numbers.
He can have the game winning drive with Rams walking off with FG
@@bobbymeade2099 Malcom butler didn’t win the Super Bowl mvp Brady did that game
Dude had 84 tackles as an interior d lineman...dude is top five defensive player all time
Because he is not obesed. He is pure strength
I wish i can disagree with you but i can't i can name 3 top of my head i put over Donald but he probably top 3 of all time
@@bgstv10001 Lawrence Taylor..and Reggie white the only ones I can say forsure we're better
@@lance.da.legend9837 me i put Ray Lewis, LT, Ed Reed, Reggie White and Deion Sanders it's real tough
@@lance.da.legend9837 No TJ Watt love 🤔.....I've seen this man win games for the Steelers!
This is by far my favorite sports analyst show. The banter between Shannon and skip is legendary. Love you guys.
I won't lie deion clothes was clean the entire game 😂😂
Running wind sprints😂😂😂
Yep 🤣🤣
"Joe Burrow is going to have 99 problems and AD is it" 🤣
You know it!!!!!! Agreed 100%!!!!!👍😉
That aged well
Reggie White had 21 sacks in 12 games. That's insane!
2 diffrent eras dude.....
I feel like the GREAT Justice Alan Page always gets forgotten in greatest players of all time convos.
When you watched Giants games in the LT era, you actually felt fear for the opposing QB. He was all anyone was thinking about. And when LT would take over the game, it was electrifying.
To be fair if the rules were the same as back then I think Donald would put equal fear
@@shanaeverowe9626 Nah
i dont think a title would make any difference. He's the consensus best defensive player in the NFL for the last 4 years if not more
He’s already number 1 even without a title
@@Elusivve Of all time?
@@dvdnj78 player* all time
exactly!
even his peers voted him best player
@@Elusivve he’s not #1 of all time but he’s up there
Best of his generation, best interior D lineman since Sapp and a first ballot HOFer. Forget the hyperbole. You just cant be better than LT, Ray Lewis, Reggie and Prime.
Already better than Ray. Won’t argue with LT or Reggie. Plays a different position than prime.
AD in his prime is better then anyone, AD > LT
@@Elusivve I’m a rams fan but he’s just not. AD is behind LT, Deion, Reggie, and Lewis and AD interchangeable
Can’t be why? You d riding?
@@Elusivve Nope LT won MVP in a league with Marino, Montana, Elway, Kelly playing QB. He changed the game. There's nothing lazier than when people go oh he was just a pass rusher, no he was tremendous everywhere we just talk about his pass rushing because it was off the charts in a league where teams threw the ball way way less than today.
You definitely can make an argument that Aaron Donald is top 5.. When teams drafting DT’s they looking for Aaron Donald’s.. Just like when teams drafting at CB they looking for Deion sanders type players or drafting pass rushers they looking for LT, Bruce smith or Reggie white type of players. Aaron Donald is in that tier now He’s the standard in today’s game.
That's a good point once you become standard for that position your goated 🐐
All the years Aaron Donald has played in the league, it's been a handicap for the offense(from a rules standpoint), making Donald's accomplishments even more impressive.
I saw Deacon Jones play. Changed the game.
you going way back lol
You old asf bucko
@@matthewgulley9725 that just means his opinions are more valid. Most kids don't know anyone passed 1999 these days
I hate seeing people try to compare a LB to a DT. DTs do the dirty work that only football players (or aficionados something Skip thinks he is) can really appreciate. LBs are flashy and even casual fans can see what they do.
Ok? But Donald still isn’t better than LT
@@spendsshanks6050 yes he is LT couldnt stop the run like donald
@@justinalley3399 lol you probably never even seen LT play. 🤣
Lol skip is 70 and has forgotten more football than you have ever known.
@@interceptingfist5682 LT had some of the best defenses of all time around him; so he wasn't doubled/tripled as much as Donald. He was also an OLB, so he SHOULD have more sacks than an interior DT... yet, AD's numbers are about the same.
AD > LT
White, Sanders , Smith , Lewis, and Taylor are the ones that I remember from MY ERA
All beasts. I like the the love for Sanders. If a guy today could actually shut down a side of the field like Prime could, football analysts would lose their minds.
@@Michael_Page Probably the closest we got is Darrelle Revis, but even he isn't close to Prime's influence.
@@magicalmixer5453 The Revis Island era was fun, but yeah, nothing like (coach) Prime.
And Michael Strahan on that list?
To say he's the best defensive player imo is crazy, there's just too many to say that
I still think that the Ravens Defense with Suggs on the line, Ray up the middle, and Reed in the backfield. Was the most ridiculous Defensive combination in the history of the NFL. I felt sorry for EVERY single team that had to face that defense.
Like Shannon said he's already top 5
I’m a Rams fan, but LT is still on top. The eye test favors LT over anyone who ever played.
And as a NYG fan I will give the devil his due . There was a time when Kevin Green was just about as unstoppable as anyone who played the game.
Agreed, but that's about it. Everyone after that is interchangeable including AD
You guys obviously don't know football because for a dt to do what he's doing is unheard-of. Easier for an edge rusher to create havoc.
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99 problems 😭😭😭
Patrick Willis MLB SF 49ers
would have been #1 (for me) if he stayed atleast another 2-3 years BUT he's a genius too leave waaaay before any decline
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LT's motor ran really hot, but he was using some special fuel!
😂 let's not talk about that lol .
Then again, so did the entire decade!
Best defensive player of all time is number 56 NY Giants Lawrence Taylor (LT)
Linebacker
Be quiet fake Rams fan
@@mouadalr6924 Nah just D player period
@@mouadalr6924 LT the greatest defensive player period!
Jesus, the dude made a mistake in the comment and said "defensive lineman" ,I corrected him and said linebacker lol i know LT is goat
3/4th of the way through and I'm waiting for Skip to pull out his: "to my eye test..." 😂
Shannon had this from jump
Or every subject he brings up a cowgirls game like they were the team to beat
My Defensive Mt. Rushmore 🗿(Top 5)
Deion Sanders, LT (NYG) Ronnie Lott, Bruce Smith (No Order)… then I have a few players I just can’t choose from 🤦♂️, below in No order ⬇️
Ray Lewis, Mike Singletary, Reggie White, Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, Mean Joe Green, maybe D-Revis?? 🤷♂️
NFL Mount Rushmore (top 4) Tom Brady, Jerry Rice, Jim Brown and Lawrence Taylor.
Dude,.. Mean Joe Green, Reggie White should have NEVER been on the " I just can't choose from list" from the start🤪🙄🤔😡
@@James-yf7vy I understand you, but try to understand me. Mean Joe Green I watched a ton on UA-cam & ESPN highlights.
Example - Tomorrow’s generation will think Cooper Kupp is honestly BETTER than Jerry Rice 😳😔 // I love Reggie White too, but I did list Bruce Smith, the man played almost 20 yrs + he played a lot in a 3-4 Defense, yet still had 200 Sacks 🤦🏻♂️ that’s UnReal!!! Reggie played in a 4-3 defense, so he had more lineman Help
Lol Deion... Best coverage corner EVER fo sho! However he couldn't tackle a paper bag. In heavy run 1st Era his weakness couldn't be masked. He got trucked by Dave Brown (trash NYG QB)smfh. Ray & Reggie 4 & 5 for me.
It becomes a non debatable point to me when they talk about how much this man has been double teamed and still putting up hall of fame numbers. It’s not even close in my mind.
Lawrence Taylor is the only player in NFL history to put legitimate FEAR into offensive players’ heads. Aaron Donald is great but he isnt LT. He just isnt. And mind you LT has an MVP AND 2 rings. Aaron Ronald has a lot of ground to cover. One superbowl isnt going to make this a legit argument.
Donald got 20 sacks as DT the year Patrick Mahomes threw 50 tds and everyone was on his nuts. but we all know who should've been MVP that year.
@@zacwoods yea and that was back when you could absolutely VIOLATE quarterbacks. If these quarterbacks had to worry about AD doing those things to them they would be JUST AS SCARED. Quarterbacks are Protected by the league more than the damn pentagon nowadays. That’s a horrible argument. And LT won the MVP. I can’t do anything but give kudos to that. But I don’t care about team achievements like Super Bowls when we are talking about best individual players.
Other players have faced the same amount
@@stevencrawford6924 Agreed comparing eras is so hard. The fear thing is partly rules though LT was also a mean MFer on the field.
He is most def top 5 all time.
Easily
Not even close I can name 5 players who if they started with aron Donald he wouldn't even be close
@@kashpaablo3580 who
Is he top 1?
Ed reed will always be my favorite defensive player
And Warren Sapp?
he was before and is NOW officially. Congrats to the Super bowl 💍🏈🏈
As far as defensive linemen go, Aaron Donald is definitely up there with the best. Reggie White, Bruce Smith, Deacon Jones, Michael Strahan were all considered the best, and now you have to mention Aaron Donald in the conversation with them.
U forgot LT
@@YounginBallin LT was a OLB though. I would say with a SB he is top 3 and w/ a sb mvp i would say top 2. If he plays at this level for another 2 - 3 years then he has a legit chance to be #1 and at worst #2 regardless what happens on Sunday
Forgot warren sapp
@@dupreehundo3070 no I didn't. Sapp was great, but he wasn't on their level. Each one of the individuals that I listed had to be game planned around. You didn't have to change your entire system because of Sapp.
Skip made some amazing points with the LT and Charles Haley comparisons, AD’s motor just doesn’t run as hot as those guys did.
He's definitely one of the best ever! Dude is a BOSS
Why do you guys like to say things like this? You already trying to put Lebron over MJ! NOT!!!! Now you want to put Donald over Lawrence Taylor. NEVER!!! You are living in the moment! WAKE UP!
He's top 5 with or without a Superbowl ring but certainly not number #1 that spot belongs to Lawrence Taylor and Reggie White is arguably number 2 and Ray Lewis is also ahead of Donald
@william Burney reggie white is my hero! I miss him so much.
Lt, Reggie White, Ray Lewis, Bruce Smith,Aaron Donald.
@@frankburn6312 I agree with that 👍
@@williamburney3166 there’s primetime to put in there as well. I would put him 4th , moving Smith the 5th and Donald to 6
@@frankburn6312 I'm a Cowboys fan so you know that I'm fine with putting Deion in the top 5, but you certainly could debate Donald vs Bruce Smith, because remember Aaron Donald is one of only 2 players to ever win 3 defensive player of the year awards
Shannon sharp is my favorite dude on this show
Donald got his ring! Hope he comes back to try and run it again
“Lt motor rain higher I felt like” yea skip dude was on every drug possible 😭
Eagles o line keeps Aaron Donald pretty quiet too. Regardless, best DT I've watched
Kelce is a beast and I credit a lot of Hurts’ success to having him in front of him
That 0:50 camera shot lowkey gave me chills....
Lawrence Taylor hands down. NO ONE dominated, took over a game like he did. Donald has not done what LT has done.
are you still saying that? lol
Lawrence Taylor and Mel Blount GOATED!
If I ever go to jail, I want "Hall Of Famer Shannon Sharpe" as my defender
For a BJ I'm sure you would
@@pbsimmons2303 huh
@@pbsimmons2303 oh, you are a homosexual. I get it now
“HE’S LEGIT!”😂
Here after 99 ended the Super Bowl much like he ended the NFC Championship Game...winning the game by getting to the QB when it mattered most.
Top 5 All Time, Offense or Defense. May be the greatest defensive player of all time.
Facts he has at least 3 good years left
“”99 problems and AD is it” ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh damn unc dropping 💎
He's a short, small, quick and strong DT. The NFL experts preach Leverage, Leverage Leverage but keep signing 6'6 linemen. A good 6 ft, 6-1, 300-315lb guard would make life easy going against Donald. Low man wins most of the time.
People who are 6ft and 300lb that have any sort of athleticism is very rare. Not many exist and are good enough to play in the NFL.
AD is the best swimming pass rusher ever. No contest. He's had a countless amount of plays where he is just not touched at all. But AD's run defense and presence is what drops him for me. He just doesn't take up enough space and hold multiple olinemen in place like a prime Cox, Snacks, or Suh. Still top 20 all-time though.
LAWRENCE TAYLOR THE GREATEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER EVER !!!
I wonder what skip gotta say today
I feel like defensive players don’t need rings for validation unless they win MVP or really dominated the game. I don’t think I would move him up or down the list much for this one game. I could be wrong though.
Agreed
Aaron Donald is really that dude. He's already regarded as top 5 player in the league. Not just defensively, but altogether. What does that tell you about how great he really is as a defender? In a QB centered and offense centered league. If he's regarded the way he is by fans and peers the way he is now and he's only 30, I think he just might retire as the greatest defender to ever play the game. This is one of those guys who even if you come up with the best and most positive adjectives to describe his greatness, you're probably still selling him short.
This aged well 😭
I like how these guys think they know football, and don't even put Deacon Jones or Alan Page in their top 5 Defensive players.
Alan Page actually won an MVP as a Defensive Tackle/end. No one has done that again. He was the JJ Watt of his era, but had closer to 20 good seasons at it. Deacon Jones had season with over 20 sacs, Multiple.
and OH BY THE WAY THOSE WERE 14 GAME SEASONS.
What a surprise no matter what the topic is Skip has to bring up the 90s cowboys
“He’s top 5 already.”
Facts. Been top 5 for a minute.
When suh was there they had to double block two players because both have to be double blocked
The reason he “flashed more” is not only based on talent, or scheme, it’s largely based on who is across the line with him....Vaughn Miller is one of those names. It was the same with Charles, as it was wit Damaracus Lawrence. You can be a good player, but when you’re the only good player on the line it’s easy for you to disappear(depending on level of talent dictates level of transparency) As soon as you have a person who the offense has to pay a smidgit of legit attention to along side your star; the good players become great, and the great become UNSTOPPABLE!
The difference between AD and the other great pass rushers is, aside from Warren Sapp, they are basically all edge rushers. The fact he's doing what he does at DT is what makes him a top 5 pass rusher all time.
Reggie White and Bruce Smith were amazing against the run wtf are u talking about?
@@elbowgang9715 did you even read what I wrote before commenting? They were both edge rushers, which is what I said. Learn to read.
@@alex-og.zalez9403 people like to shoot their mouths to quick without reading lmao scrubs
Vita Vea is super underrated. Teams also scheme for him very simply: 2-4 men on him, no less lmao. The way that man disrupts a whole line or 3/5 AND the backfield by literally going straight forward is stupid crazy. And he can reach left or right for a tackle deceptively fast. Talking about a man who it's rare to see push back less than 2 other full grown men. Minimum. It's insane. I think next year, he could maybe take a leap and be considered a top 5 defensive PLAYER in the league today. Pretty sure he's already the only or one of the only NTs isn't he?
What more does he have to prove skip?
Show up in important moments. Was invisible in 2019 superbowl
@@nostalgiacorner1999 cmon now, those Olines completely shifted their guys to AD almost every play lol
@@VisceralCarbon well on that Gronk play. AD was single. he even said "my bad guys that's on me"
I mean the segment is about him becoming the best defensive player ever, so I'd say he has a decent amount more to prove
@@nostalgiacorner1999 he was triple teamed and had a rib injury
Funny uncle did not mention Ray Lewis
Some consider LT as the greatest football player ever. That's including some of the best QB's ever.
L.T. is the greatest player in the history of the game. He is top dog everybody is wherever you put them
honestly that's a pretty decent argument. everybody praising AD but I just want to see someone come out and say he's better than LT, but they'd be committed to a psych ward.
1. Lawrence Taylor
2. Ed reed
3. Reggie white
4. Ray Lewis
5. Donald
Think he might have a case being the best linemen ever but LT/Sanders are in a category of their own.
Patrick Willis, Troy Polamalu, Those old Steelers, Bears defense players, Ravens defenders, Deion, LT. etc. yea. I'd say top 10 is more likely
As a Seahawks fan, I’ll see Donald disappear in our games a lot....until he doesn’t then you regret forgetting about him😭
"We're talking about Lawrence Taylor" -Bill Belichick
Stop comparing players from different era's. The game is not the same
Ray Lewis , Ed reed, Brian Dawkins, Troy palumalu, Sean Taylor
In this offense centric NFL I have to say Arron Donald is playing with rules set against him and he is still putting up these types of numbers. Shannon is right top 5 for sure.
The rules are set against DBs, not DL really. He just has to rush the passer and tackle RBs. This also helps him, more offensive plays, more tackles, more sacks, etc etc.
@@mrjonsey Have you not been watching football the past two seasons? Anything more aggressive than a mild push to sack the QB is going to be a penalty.
@@mrjonsey Also the offensive linemen are more athletic and bigger in this era
@@EmmanuelTurner245225 that’s when you get to the QB, his actual job hasn’t changed because of the rules, they just cant hit QBs below the knee and on the head but it’s not like they told them they have to play with one hand behind their backs or something.
@@Elusivve That’s true, but these dudes start much earlier now in their careers. Back then guys weren’t going to skills camps and AAU circuits
Lawrence Taylor was on that blue magic 🪄
AD showed the world tonight who he was. And that is a world Champion, and one of the best EVER.
LT is the greatest defensive player of all time
Charles Haley isn’t on the same planet as Aaron Donald. Skip is way too biased
AD on that Lawrence Taylor and Reggie White HOF & legend trajectory. He just needs the title to back it up.
Y’all be reaching with this best of all time this super bowl would not put him up there
Yea I don't think he's eveb one to Deon at all, even if he wins the supers bowl, because a lot of the time when they needed him to show him Donald doesn't especially against the packers got shut down by a back up oline, and if he performs EXTREMELY well this super then maybe, but I really don't see his ype at all at least in comparison to the greats
He's a non factor in some games and he's top 5? Yeah reaching with a 🧢 on.
@@blaqueazzme in the biggest games he wasn't, he's been performing pretty well yhia play offs, but some of the biggest games I'm talking about are primarily against the packers, last 2 years he was shut down by either David or backup oline in post or regular season, but I just want him to be consistently great I'm the games that matter, and he hasn't
Raiders of the mid 70s and Dolphins of early 70s was also very Great.
Shell ,Dalby, Upshaw of Raiders.
Kuchenberg,Langer, Larry Little of Dolphins
I'll accept what Shannon says he's top 5 but the game did not change because of him. LT changed how the game was played, he is the top man until someone else makes the game change because of that person.
Exactly. Great player but he’s the Drew Brees of defensive players. The stats are legendary but he did not change the game like Deion, LT or even Ray Lewis.
@@mrjonsey more like the Tom Brady of defensive players, ppl don’t want to accept he’s the greatest defensive player ever AD !
@@Elusivve
Aaron Donald is overrated
LT had a high-octane motor but Aaron Darnold has the ninja focus.
Now watch the naysayers change the narrative with the quickness since AD made them eat crow the biggest stage....
Factz is undisputed never 2 be debated 💯💯😎
Don't think I heard his name once during the 49ers game. Lol
He had the pressure that resulted in the game sealing interception. So you must of missed that.
@@jasonlyle4113 that's nice.
@@sharkl11 he has a total of 12.5 sacks against the niners you casual
He truly is all that and some - I always keep my eyes on him "always"
wayyyy harder to get a sack as an DT
Top 5 defense list (after the Super Bowl)
1. Lawrence Taylor
2. Deion Sanders
3. Ray Lewis
4. Reggie White
5. Aaron Donald