On UA-cam there's a cool interview by the Tone Talk guys with James Brown, who designed the Classic 30 when he worked at Peavey. During the interview, he says in so many words, "Yeah, I know it's a pain to service these amps, but Hartley told me that the amp has to sell for $299.00."
Another great video Lyle. I’ve really enjoyed your “Amps under $[x]” videos and would love to hear more of your thoughts on these old Mississippi-made Peaveys. Thanks for all the great content man!
Excellent video as always! Nice to see the ole Mississippi Marshals. My delta blues and Classic 30 are a touch warm so I run a fan behind em. Always wondered if that helped at all?
I have had a Delta blues 210 for about 20, 21 years now. I don’t know what MoJo Is in there but I have owned numerous amps over that period of time, yet The Delta blues has remained in the collection. Definitely not a perfect amp, but it is absolutely a sleeper. Especially in that price range. Although I would personally avoid any of the modern offerings from Peavey
I have one of these amps. One things that's super impressive to me is the strength of the reverb and tremolo in this amp. They are both super intense. The tremolo especially, the intensity on 5 is like a Princeton reverb on 7 or 8, maybe more. Super strong effects. Not bad sounding overdrive channel as well. This amp can do pretty much everything besides heavy metal
@@tomfoolery2082 No it's actually A bit different, It has a push button to switch between clean and drive. It also has tremolo where the Classic 50 does not. Also has a mid range boost, and no presence knob like the classic 50 has. However the way the gain is done with the post and pre knobs is the same. In conclusion the delta blues has no master volume, it just has the volume knob for the clean channel and the pre and post knobs for the drive channel. besides the wattage and speaker, those are most of the differences.
Bought that same model brand new the late 90's and played it for about 10 years, but whooo weee! Removing those hinged PCB's to replace components for me was a guessing game as to which connection I was going to break in the process of repairing it.. but then again I am a rank amateur. Actually it was a pretty decent sounding amp and a real bargain at less than $400 new. Other than the board design, it's only real negative was the very muddy reverb.
Those folded circuit boards are a nightmare! 91% isopropyl alcohol will make removing the hot glue very easy. Just a few drops or some in a small spray bottle on the globs and pick it right off. I have a Delta Blues 210 and it rocks!
@@mrnobody6760 it depends on your electronic knowledge and your mechanical skill level. If you don't feel 100% confident in your abilities, take it to a reputable repair shop. The cost savings, if it smokes when you turn it on, will be lost forever. I took my time, took lots of pictures, and marked the polarity of the old caps on the board with a pencil before I took anything apart. I didn't have any problems and my amp sounds fine. Good luck with your amp whatever you decide.
My apologies for the dumb question. What is the white connector called that goes from the reverb tank to the board? My cat chewed up my reverb tank cables and I want to replace it. But all cables I can find are RCA to RCA, not RCA to that white connector. Thank you!
I owe the Delta Blues a debt of gratitude.Back in the day when they were first released i would gig with one and lo and behold it blew up on a job in a restaurant. Not cool. I returned it as it was under warranty and it was written off. The nuts you see at 5:23 had vibrated off drooped on the board and shorted the amp. My next amp was a vintage Silverface Super Reverb and i've never looked back!
Is there any higher end amp that is basically the same thing as a delta blues 2x10? I love the amps sound but good gosh id just like boutique quality...
The control panel on my Delta Blues 210 gets REALLY hot to the touch when playing for a while. Never been sure if that's a fault, or just bad design / heat dissapation with these amps?
The fusing in this is bad. It alows a lot of current being drawn from the transformer. A transformer which is really low quality and therefore prone to fail if for example the output tubes start to draw to much current. They put in fast fuses and oversized them instead. Yes they will work fast with a complete short.......And I really wonder about only having screen resistors on two of the output tubes. Which magically is the two tubes were i encountered burnt of pcb traces in conjunction with the burnt transformer and still intact fuses. Great build this one.
The folded board scheme seems to be a worst of all worlds approach (convoluted assembly and fragile, hardwired jumpers that might require recreating if bent/broken when removing the pair for component replacements). Besides that, the heat management is appalling. STACKING two 5 watt resistors atop each other? The mind boggles.
These Peavey amps have to be one of the most ridiculous designs ever made. How could anyone ever think that tri-folded board with jumper wires was a good idea? It's amazing these don't break more often.
@@davidfuller581 Maybe they did it to save space, but it's a really bad design. I would have just made the cabinet a little bigger, so I had more room to lay all the PCB's flat.
On UA-cam there's a cool interview by the Tone Talk guys with James Brown, who designed the Classic 30 when he worked at Peavey. During the interview, he says in so many words, "Yeah, I know it's a pain to service these amps, but Hartley told me that the amp has to sell for $299.00."
Angryshoebox you never disappoint with your comments. You've turned me onto much good information.
Very cool that we get to sorta see the focus your face has when examining this amp. As always thanks for the great content & info.
Always timely Lyle. I’m knee deep in a small herd of sick c30’s and 20’s. Love the origami pcb!
Another great video Lyle. I’ve really enjoyed your “Amps under $[x]” videos and would love to hear more of your thoughts on these old Mississippi-made Peaveys. Thanks for all the great content man!
nice video. waiting for part 2
Excellent video as always! Nice to see the ole Mississippi Marshals. My delta blues and Classic 30 are a touch warm so I run a fan behind em. Always wondered if that helped at all?
I’ve been playing my delta blues a lot lately. You did a great job on it!
I just don’t have that expensive JBL speaker in mine.
I have had a Delta blues 210 for about 20, 21 years now. I don’t know what MoJo Is in there but I have owned numerous amps over that period of time, yet The Delta blues has remained in the collection. Definitely not a perfect amp, but it is absolutely a sleeper. Especially in that price range. Although I would personally avoid any of the modern offerings from Peavey
My first tube amp was a Crate Vintage Club 50 2x12. I almost went with a Peavey Classic. Ahh youth. You know, you grow.
that's one of my best sounding tubers, did it die on you? they can be that way.
I have one of these amps. One things that's super impressive to me is the strength of the reverb and tremolo in this amp. They are both super intense. The tremolo especially, the intensity on 5 is like a Princeton reverb on 7 or 8, maybe more. Super strong effects. Not bad sounding overdrive channel as well. This amp can do pretty much everything besides heavy metal
Is this pretty much a classic 50 with a 15" and different wattage . Thks
@@tomfoolery2082 No it's actually A bit different, It has a push button to switch between clean and drive. It also has tremolo where the Classic 50 does not. Also has a mid range boost, and no presence knob like the classic 50 has. However the way the gain is done with the post and pre knobs is the same. In conclusion the delta blues has no master volume, it just has the volume knob for the clean channel and the pre and post knobs for the drive channel. besides the wattage and speaker, those are most of the differences.
Bought that same model brand new the late 90's and played it for about 10 years, but whooo weee! Removing those hinged PCB's to replace components for me was a guessing game as to which connection I was going to break in the process of repairing it.. but then again I am a rank amateur.
Actually it was a pretty decent sounding amp and a real bargain at less than $400 new. Other than the board design, it's only real negative was the very muddy reverb.
Nice
Those folded circuit boards are a nightmare! 91% isopropyl alcohol will make removing the hot glue very easy. Just a few drops or some in a small spray bottle on the globs and pick it right off. I have a Delta Blues 210 and it rocks!
I went with the 2x10 in the 90's and it has been a great amp. Still have it. I liked it so much I bought a classic 20 too. Best small amp ever 🙂
I got the 210,playing it regularly,good amp.
I recapped mine about four years ago. What a nightmare! I wish I had known about Psionic Audio then.
@@mrnobody6760 it depends on your electronic knowledge and your mechanical skill level. If you don't feel 100% confident in your abilities, take it to a reputable repair shop. The cost savings, if it smokes when you turn it on, will be lost forever.
I took my time, took lots of pictures, and marked the polarity of the old caps on the board with a pencil before I took anything apart. I didn't have any problems and my amp sounds fine. Good luck with your amp whatever you decide.
My apologies for the dumb question. What is the white connector called that goes from the reverb tank to the board? My cat chewed up my reverb tank cables and I want to replace it. But all cables I can find are RCA to RCA, not RCA to that white connector. Thank you!
Curious to know the price point on the different repair tiers you mentioned. It varies market to market to market, I’m sure.
Have you ever worked on a Peavey Wiggley? They are intense looking amps. But like Kustom Coupe series.
I owe the Delta Blues a debt of gratitude.Back in the day when they were first released i would gig with one and lo and behold it blew up on a job in a restaurant.
Not cool.
I returned it as it was under warranty and it was written off.
The nuts you see at 5:23 had vibrated off drooped on the board and shorted the amp.
My next amp was a vintage Silverface Super Reverb and i've never looked back!
So did he go for the recap?
This never got a part two?
The folded board thing Peavey did in these always amazed me. Of all the choices they could have made, that was what they went with?
It baffles me. It made construction so much more difficult in the factory.
And those wire jumpers are notorious for coming unsoldered or breaking...
The folded circuit board had to have added production cost, it makes no sense.
Is there any higher end amp that is basically the same thing as a delta blues 2x10? I love the amps sound but good gosh id just like boutique quality...
Can you modify this amp like a Fender Vibroverb?
Are those silicon tube dampeners worth try as opposed to the metal covers? Do they cut down on microphonic noise?
Yes I have them on mine and they make a huge improvement
The control panel on my Delta Blues 210 gets REALLY hot to the touch when playing for a while. Never been sure if that's a fault, or just bad design / heat dissapation with these amps?
Mine is the same
The fusing in this is bad. It alows a lot of current being drawn from the transformer. A transformer which is really low quality and therefore prone to fail if for example the output tubes start to draw to much current. They put in fast fuses and oversized them instead. Yes they will work fast with a complete short.......And I really wonder about only having screen resistors on two of the output tubes. Which magically is the two tubes were i encountered burnt of pcb traces in conjunction with the burnt transformer and still intact fuses. Great build this one.
I've always thought those Peavey amps look and sound pretty good for the money.
What a strange way to do a pcb. Surely a single, flat, one sided board would have been cheaper to manufacture?
The folded board scheme seems to be a worst of all worlds approach (convoluted assembly and fragile, hardwired jumpers that might require recreating if bent/broken when removing the pair for component replacements). Besides that, the heat management is appalling. STACKING two 5 watt resistors atop each other? The mind boggles.
These Peavey amps have to be one of the most ridiculous designs ever made. How could anyone ever think that tri-folded board with jumper wires was a good idea? It's amazing these don't break more often.
I don't like the way this amp is built. I would pull the JBL, and toss the amp.
Yep. These and the Classic 30 have the most absolutely bonkers internal design.
@@davidfuller581 Maybe they did it to save space, but it's a really bad design. I would have just made the cabinet a little bigger, so I had more room to lay all the PCB's flat.
The worst chassis design ever ? All that unused open space with the boards all jammed together? Yuch