Another great video with scenic views and great information. Here in the USA train are required to blow 2 long, one short, and one long for every crossing. I live 150 meters from one of 2 in town so that is great at 2 AM but you do get used to it.
I am enjoying your videos and learning a lot. You have answered so many of my questions from a year of watching Norwegian train videos! I also "collect" stations, finding old stations or their footprints along lines that formerly served many passengers but now serve fewer, or only freight. It's great fun when you upload video of a line I've never seen, and I look forward to seeing many more. Thank you!
Thanks for your comment. I live next to a freigh train only line that connects Kongsvinger to Elverum. Will be covering that too. That is in the early stages of converting to ERTMS signal system. Passenger traffic stopped in 94.
Thank you again very much for this new route through beautiful Norway. I'm quite sure: your mix of cab view, drone view - and all this underpinned with interesting facts about railway operations - will increase the numbers of your subscribers rather fast. It's always the same with making money - the first million is the hardest 😀. I wish you allways a safe ride without any accidents, stay healthy! Kind regards from Koenigstein im Taunus, Germany.
Impressive! Love your style; you Norwegians are inventive people and know how to capture an audience. That waterfall drone shot is sublime. I'll definitely come back for more. :)
Another nice video on Norwegian freight operations as well as additional knowledge on operations, this time the poles. Wasn't this filmed during the period when the southern route from Drammen to Oslo closed for extensive track work?
Very nice, I am looking forward for the next video. I have travelled, by car, through this area a few times and I find it strangely attractive to me. Could be the mix of forests, farms, lakes, mountains and valleys. Just a very nice area to live.
Thx for commenting Rallybear! I like it too. Alot of rivers and lakes in that area. Not so easy to drive a train thrugh. Up and down, up and dow. Same whit speed limits, up and down, lol
Congratulations for your channel and beautiful video, keep showing these videos, today I posted another video of the locomotive of the logistic direction here in Araraquara sp - Brazil, thanks
Thank you for the video. The first channel from Norway, which tells something about the Norwegian railway. The rest only show the view from the window.
Hi and thx for asking! I did some research and i think this was a part of an old line called spillleren. Here is a link to wikipedia about it: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sperillen_Line Now it continues from the timber terminal to a factory called Spenncon Rail, who make concrete sleepers. I have a friend who drives there occasionally and i hope some day i will have a vid about that.
@@thenorwegiantraindriver4788 PZB or Indusi is an intermittent cab signalling system and train protection system used in Germany, Austria, Slovenia, Croatia, Romania, Israel, Serbia, on two lines in Hungary, on the Tyne and Wear Metro in the United Kingdom, and formerly on the Trillium Line in Canada. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punktf%C3%B6rmige_Zugbeeinflussung
@@thenorwegiantraindriver4788 Hi, TNT, let me answer your question regarding the "PZB (Punktförmige Zugbeeinflussung). In the German Wikipedia you can find the following informations: Point-based train control (PZB) refers to various train control systems that enable monitoring and control of rail-bound vehicles at selected points on a railway line. The systems currently in use mainly monitor whether a signal indicating a stop has not been crossed, whether speed limits are being observed and whether the driver is aware of signals restricting movement and acknowledges them by pressing the watchdog button. The current German PZB 90 system is based on the Indusi system in three-frequency resonance design introduced in 1934. The applicable restriction or information is transmitted to the vehicle at certain points by oscillating circuits on the track (so-called "track magnets") and evaluated by the on-board equipment. If a restriction or inattention is disregarded, the on-board equipment triggers emergency braking. Overriding interventions of a PZB system is partly possible and necessary for the continuation of operation. These interventions are registered by the on-board equipment. Point-based train control systems only monitor compliance with signalled restrictions and the driver's attention. They close the safety gap between signalling and vehicle, for which otherwise the drivers are solely responsible without technical support. They cannot and should not check whether the restrictions in force at any given time are sufficient. For example, they cannot determine whether a section of track behind a signal pointing to a running position or a signal in stop position, which is passed with permission and temporary PZB bypass, is really free. Originally, point train control was intended to work covertly and not require any additional operating actions by the locomotive crew, at least for unrestricted running signals, but this principle could not be maintained. Point-type train control systems can be installed in parallel with other train control systems on the trackside and on the on-board side. In the case of line-type train control (LZB), the PZB serves as a fall-back level, as all vehicles with LZB on-board equipment also have PZB equipment. In the context of the introduction of the European Train Control System (ETCS), PZB is a Class B system that allows dual equipment on lines with ETCS Level 1 or 2. In both cases, PZB only acts on vehicles that do not have LZB or ETCS equipment or as a fallback level in the event of and after transmission failures. At the end of 2019, 32.398 of 33.291 km of operating length on the Deutsche Bahn network were equipped with PZB, with an upward trend. (...) (de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punktförmige_Zugbeeinflussung)
@@Rockphill Ill read up about it. In Norway we call it ATC (automatic train control), and the newer european system ERTMS. I will cover it at some point.
I really like this video of a previously unkown line! The drone shots give a very nice overview of the railway facilities and the waterfall. The track is very demanding. Hardly straight sections, many speed changes plus uphill/downhill. Was the diesel engine retrofitted to the locomotive? I´m looking forward to the more videos, thank you for uploading!
Hi Dieter and thx for commenting! Yes its demanding line to drive. Some of my colleges drive in constant 70 there, since the lowest is 65, and highest 90. The diesel module is integrated from the factory. So i can start/stop and switch between el and diesel from both cab and radio controller (we use radio when shunting alone)
Nice to see a different route. I'm surprised you don't have many subscribers like the other Norway traindriver channels. The falls in Honefoss remind me of the falls in a town called Almonte in eastern Ontario Canada where I grew up in the 1950s. Is there an electric power station by the falls? Cheers
Hi Don and thx for commenting. This is a very new channel tho, and i dont have many videoes out yet. Maybe you can link me in a train forum in Canada or something :D There is a small dam at the timber terminal. You can see it 2 min into the: Part 1. Freight train from Hønefoss through the Norwegian capital to Kongsvinger But i think its for the factory there winch is now closed. There are other dams down the river aswell. Im kinda fascinated by them. And we got alot of them in Norway. We get almost all our electricity from dams. There are even two dams dedicated to deliver power to the railway, since the rail power runs on another frequency (16, 2/3 hz)
Thanks so much for another wonderful video! I really enjoy all the explanations of the railroad and the signalling, etc. One question: You were talking about the stripped stakes alongside the right-of-way. What do the black and white ones mean? Norway is such a beautiful country. I loved the drone footage over the Honefoss falls as well as all the tracks entering the station. Quite a busy place.Thanks again! Dave in hot, dry and burning (literally!) California.
Hi Swarf! and thx again for commenting :D The black and white poles have two functions. Im gonna explain in a future video aswell. Some of this is hard to translate, but its called a border/switch pole. First function is that it provides a shunting border at stations. You cant pass beyond them (for often unknown reasons). The other function they have is to show you the activation point of road barriers. When you see the black/white pole on the line on the right side of the track you know there is a road crossing with barriers coming up. They are everywhere in Norway, so you wont have to watch for long to see one :D And the summer heat has left us here in Norway for the moment. But I like it that way: Cause then i can regulate the temperature myself with clothing :D
I think I know. It was the back engine. The front engine pulled everything out and left. The back engine became the front engine. For those going huh??? the previous video shows the front engine pushing the cars in and stopping at the end of the catenary at the entrance to the lumber yard. Presumably the alternate route doesn't have steep enough grades to require a back engine. Just guessing.
@@speedflash9347 Thx for commenting Speed! These locomotives got a diesel module. So we pull the wagons until we reach the catenary, then we switch :D We can also do as you said and push/pull with a diesel locomotive. It depends on what terminal we use and the locomotive :D
The drone video, makes the rail operations look like a model train set.
Very good drone footage along with a great train ride. " Thanks "
Thx R.M. It was such a beautiful day
Another great video with scenic views and great information. Here in the USA train are required to blow 2 long, one short, and one long for every crossing. I live 150 meters from one of 2 in town so that is great at 2 AM but you do get used to it.
Yeah, i live 200m from a honk signal myself :D Cool to get insight how it's done over there Leland :D
I am enjoying your videos and learning a lot. You have answered so many of my questions from a year of watching Norwegian train videos! I also "collect" stations, finding old stations or their footprints along lines that formerly served many passengers but now serve fewer, or only freight. It's great fun when you upload video of a line I've never seen, and I look forward to seeing many more. Thank you!
Thanks for your comment. I live next to a freigh train only line that connects Kongsvinger to Elverum. Will be covering that too. That is in the early stages of converting to ERTMS signal system. Passenger traffic stopped in 94.
Thank you again very much for this new route through beautiful Norway. I'm quite sure: your mix of cab view, drone view - and all this underpinned with interesting facts about railway operations - will increase the numbers of your subscribers rather fast. It's always the same with making money - the first million is the hardest 😀.
I wish you allways a safe ride without any accidents, stay healthy! Kind regards from Koenigstein im Taunus, Germany.
Impressive! Love your style; you Norwegians are inventive people and know how to capture an audience.
That waterfall drone shot is sublime. I'll definitely come back for more. :)
Thx alot for commenting Larissa! Good that you liked the drone addition. It was such a beautiful day.
Mycket trevligt och intressant, liksom alla dina filmer!
Tackar Jan
Another nice video on Norwegian freight operations as well as additional knowledge on operations, this time the poles. Wasn't this filmed during the period when the southern route from Drammen to Oslo closed for extensive track work?
Very nice
Very nice, I am looking forward for the next video. I have travelled, by car, through this area a few times and I find it strangely attractive to me. Could be the mix of forests, farms, lakes, mountains and valleys. Just a very nice area to live.
Thx for commenting Rallybear! I like it too. Alot of rivers and lakes in that area. Not so easy to drive a train thrugh. Up and down, up and dow. Same whit speed limits, up and down, lol
Congratulations for your channel and beautiful video, keep showing these videos, today I posted another video of the locomotive of the logistic direction here in Araraquara sp - Brazil, thanks
Thx for commenting. So cool to see train drivers from another country! I subscribed right away! Looking forward to see them :D
Thank you for the video. The first channel from Norway, which tells something about the Norwegian railway. The rest only show the view from the window.
Thx for your commetn Nordic, yes i wanted to do something different that required me to learn more about video editing.
Komplimenter for de veldig godt lagde filmene. Jeg husker at Bergensbanens persontog også kjørte via Roa tidligere. Vennlig hilsen fra Sveits
Tusen takk Jürg!
Thank you very much for your video, but can I have more information/video about the line you took to Honefoss (10:00-13:00)?
Hi and thx for asking! I did some research and i think this was a part of an old line called spillleren. Here is a link to wikipedia about it: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sperillen_Line
Now it continues from the timber terminal to a factory called Spenncon Rail, who make concrete sleepers. I have a friend who drives there occasionally and i hope some day i will have a vid about that.
It would be interesting to know about the rules, signs, about security systems, whether there are analogues of the PZB, etc.
Yeah, im thinking about that. Need something to put in future videoes as well. What is PZB?
@@thenorwegiantraindriver4788 PZB or Indusi is an intermittent cab signalling system and train protection system used in Germany, Austria, Slovenia, Croatia, Romania, Israel, Serbia, on two lines in Hungary, on the Tyne and Wear Metro in the United Kingdom, and formerly on the Trillium Line in Canada. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punktf%C3%B6rmige_Zugbeeinflussung
@@thenorwegiantraindriver4788 Hi, TNT, let me answer your question regarding the "PZB (Punktförmige Zugbeeinflussung).
In the German Wikipedia you can find the following informations:
Point-based train control (PZB) refers to various train control systems that enable monitoring and control of rail-bound vehicles at selected points on a railway line. The systems currently in use mainly monitor whether a signal indicating a stop has not been crossed, whether speed limits are being observed and whether the driver is aware of signals restricting movement and acknowledges them by pressing the watchdog button. The current German PZB 90 system is based on the Indusi system in three-frequency resonance design introduced in 1934.
The applicable restriction or information is transmitted to the vehicle at certain points by oscillating circuits on the track (so-called "track magnets") and evaluated by the on-board equipment. If a restriction or inattention is disregarded, the on-board equipment triggers emergency braking. Overriding interventions of a PZB system is partly possible and necessary for the continuation of operation. These interventions are registered by the on-board equipment.
Point-based train control systems only monitor compliance with signalled restrictions and the driver's attention. They close the safety gap between signalling and vehicle, for which otherwise the drivers are solely responsible without technical support. They cannot and should not check whether the restrictions in force at any given time are sufficient. For example, they cannot determine whether a section of track behind a signal pointing to a running position or a signal in stop position, which is passed with permission and temporary PZB bypass, is really free. Originally, point train control was intended to work covertly and not require any additional operating actions by the locomotive crew, at least for unrestricted running signals, but this principle could not be maintained.
Point-type train control systems can be installed in parallel with other train control systems on the trackside and on the on-board side. In the case of line-type train control (LZB), the PZB serves as a fall-back level, as all vehicles with LZB on-board equipment also have PZB equipment. In the context of the introduction of the European Train Control System (ETCS), PZB is a Class B system that allows dual equipment on lines with ETCS Level 1 or 2. In both cases, PZB only acts on vehicles that do not have LZB or ETCS equipment or as a fallback level in the event of and after transmission failures.
At the end of 2019, 32.398 of 33.291 km of operating length on the Deutsche Bahn network were equipped with PZB, with an upward trend. (...)
(de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punktförmige_Zugbeeinflussung)
@@ennohund9515 Thx Enno, that was clarifying. In Norway we call it ATC (automatic train control), and the newer european system ERTMS.
@@Rockphill Ill read up about it. In Norway we call it ATC (automatic train control), and the newer european system ERTMS. I will cover it at some point.
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I really like this video of a previously unkown line! The drone shots give a very nice overview of the railway facilities and the waterfall. The track is very demanding. Hardly straight sections, many speed changes plus uphill/downhill.
Was the diesel engine retrofitted to the locomotive?
I´m looking forward to the more videos, thank you for uploading!
Hi Dieter and thx for commenting! Yes its demanding line to drive. Some of my colleges drive in constant 70 there, since the lowest is 65, and highest 90. The diesel module is integrated from the factory. So i can start/stop and switch between el and diesel from both cab and radio controller (we use radio when shunting alone)
Nice to see a different route. I'm surprised you don't have many subscribers like the other Norway traindriver channels. The falls in Honefoss remind me of the falls in a town called Almonte in eastern Ontario Canada where I grew up in the 1950s. Is there an electric power station by the falls? Cheers
Hi Don and thx for commenting. This is a very new channel tho, and i dont have many videoes out yet. Maybe you can link me in a train forum in Canada or something :D There is a small dam at the timber terminal. You can see it 2 min into the: Part 1. Freight train from Hønefoss through the Norwegian capital to Kongsvinger But i think its for the factory there winch is now closed. There are other dams down the river aswell. Im kinda fascinated by them. And we got alot of them in Norway. We get almost all our electricity from dams. There are even two dams dedicated to deliver power to the railway, since the rail power runs on another frequency (16, 2/3 hz)
Thanks so much for another wonderful video! I really enjoy all the explanations of the railroad and the signalling, etc. One question: You were talking about the stripped stakes alongside the right-of-way. What do the black and white ones mean?
Norway is such a beautiful country. I loved the drone footage over the Honefoss falls as well as all the tracks entering the station. Quite a busy place.Thanks again!
Dave in hot, dry and burning (literally!) California.
Hi Swarf! and thx again for commenting :D The black and white poles have two functions. Im gonna explain in a future video aswell. Some of this is hard to translate, but its called a border/switch pole. First function is that it provides a shunting border at stations. You cant pass beyond them (for often unknown reasons). The other function they have is to show you the activation point of road barriers. When you see the black/white pole on the line on the right side of the track you know there is a road crossing with barriers coming up. They are everywhere in Norway, so you wont have to watch for long to see one :D And the summer heat has left us here in Norway for the moment. But I like it that way: Cause then i can regulate the temperature myself with clothing :D
Nice video! I like the explanations. I also saw some signs like a yellow arrow on blue backround, isn't that ERTMS signs?
Hi sam, thx for asking. Yes it is! And i forgot to talk about it! Its gonna be ERTMS soon.
Hi! You appeared by an engine with no catenary. Are you running a diesel, or was that the back engine?
I think I know. It was the back engine. The front engine pulled everything out and left. The back engine became the front engine.
For those going huh??? the previous video shows the front engine pushing the cars in and stopping at the end of the catenary at the entrance to the lumber yard. Presumably the alternate route doesn't have steep enough grades to require a back engine. Just guessing.
@@speedflash9347 Thx for commenting Speed! These locomotives got a diesel module. So we pull the wagons until we reach the catenary, then we switch :D We can also do as you said and push/pull with a diesel locomotive. It depends on what terminal we use and the locomotive :D
Varför finns det en kollega i andra änden på loket?
Der er et lok bak også. For påskjut
Ah-ha, I thought there must be a waterfall somewhere -- Foss == Force (northern English from Old Norse) = Waterfall.