I TRADED MY DIESEL CAR FOR A RENAULT ZOE!
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Well done,the Zoe is a great car.I bought my wife one last October 21 plate 9000 miles .Bought from our local Renault dealer and yes it was an ex onto car.The dealer left the sticker on the key.Looking forward to hearing all about your adventures and what it's like to live with.
Ah, well done. A great choice. Welcome to the Zoe fraternity.
My 6 month onwership review of my Zoe releases tomorrow evening, so that might be of passing interest!
Enjoy. I certainly have. 😊
I’m not a Zoe lover personally but even I know that was a great deal at £13k,great video ,enjoy 👍😉💪
Thanks! 👍
I'm thinking of getting one too........🙂
£12k is my budget....
@@Lookup2Wakeup you could get into an Iconic at that if you can live without the extras of the GT Line, there are some slightly older/higher mileage GT Lines around but for an approved used car from a main dealer in such good condition it’s probably worth the extra.
Had a few Zoe’s over the years, last one being exactly what you are driving, really pleased with it for the 3 years we had it so enjoy !
I was going to buy a Zoe myself 18 months ago, but they closed the local dealership so I opted for a Fiat 500e. Looks like a great buy and the colour really suits the car.
Nice buy. Great price, practical, hatchback and cheap to run.
We bought a 27 month old ID.3 1st Edition with less than 12,000 miles in March. It was a p/ex with a BMW dealer and had sat in their yard doing nothing for about 3 months.
At the time the price was truly excellent and they added an extra 6 months warranty onto the 9 months VW warranty remaining. The battery obviously has it's longer warranty.
Folk have been telling me that the used EV market has crashed and that I overpaid but when I Google I find that I still got a decent deal 5 months later. Very happy.
I am happy with what we got and we do intend to keep the car for the long term so it all makes sense.
And the icing on the cake? Currently giving 298 miles range or over 5 miles/kWh. Less than 3 pence per mile ...
We have 64 plate Zoe, my wife loves it. It's probably time for an upgrade, but if it's not broken why fix it?
I put mine in the garage overnight and use a granny charger, gets me enough on the off-peak, not that I commute with it. Trips to Scotland are close for me, where charging is quite cheap. 22kW charging can save long waits in service areas if the Gridserve chargers are full. Planning the journey to South has improved with Gridserve's rollout of bigger chargeparks too. You'll benefit from the GT Line additions my Iconic doesn't have. I like my now 2 year old Zoe as a driver's car. I hope you enjoy yours too😁😁😁
Congrats to your Renault ZOE, after a year of drinving one, I still have a big smile on my face when entering and leaving the car, it is an excellent BEV and it is a bit sad that not that many people want to own one today. It is still one of the best options for a smaller car that has a very good range.
Absolutely loved my time with my leased Zoe, and 2 friends bought after them borrowing it. Sadly both bought towards the peak of the market 😬
Very interesting video. Thanks. You mentioned you hadn't used ONTO (3:24) but wasn't the e-Tron an ONTO rental? Maybe I misheard you. Anyway, the Zoe looks great and I hope you enjoy it. Thanks again! 👍🤗
I said “I had a car from Onto and I can’t remember, but the excess was steep” 👍🏻 damn accent.
@@ModernHeroes 😂🤣😂
You certainly made a sensible choice.
A choice I will have to face soon too, with my 2009 Lexus RX450h
It is an amazing car, but compared to the MG, it's costs an arm and a leg to drive.
On our 2nd Zoe, most underrated car, absolutely fabulous.
Great video and congrats on your new purchase.
I placed a deposit on a low mileage i3 94 Rex at the weekend after watching one of your recent videos.
Congrats - you’ll love it I’m sure. I stand by what I said in that video - the 94Ah REx i3 has to be one of the best combinations and absolutely great for people trying to work out whether EV will work for them 👌
Good choice. Miles per pound and per charge you can’t really beat it. It’s not going to be our choice for the next used EV ( other half consistently shows a lack of interest in it ) but it was right up there as an option for me.
I thought it was going to be an e-Niro. But the Zoe is a good choice and you got an excellent deal. The main thing is to ditch the dirty diesel. You can't go wrong with a Zappi, I love mine
Great video, I will make a call at Renault this week I think
Nice looking wee car. I agree, if you're going all in on ev a home charger is a must.
I got a free Chargemaster charger with my Zoe in 2020. It it is just a dumb charger, so all charging is controlled by the Zoe which is during off peak hours with Octopus Go. It is a simple cheap solution as I have no need for complicated charging regimes.
Yeah the Renault app seems pretty good if you just need to set a timed schedule, much better than the BMW one for that.
Good colour choice, the red is very nice.
You done well for 21 Zoe at £13k.
A few days ago,I got a 70 plate Zoe for £12.5k with 8 thou miles and thought I had done well.
Mine was X lease car,but , unfortunately has nasty curb rash on wheels,so the previous lease company didn't bother fixing.
They probably charged the higher though.....
@@Lookup2Wakeup definitely
Very practical and very sensible. EVM just bought a 2016 Zoe for £4400....a bit of a bargain. He drove it 200+ miles home, after picking it up.....
Yeah he’s done well there, looks like a good buy for a battery owned 22.
As I suggested to EvMan get a centre arm rest for the Zoe. It makes the driving position much more comfortable on your long commute. Enjoy
Nice price, nice car. The cost per mile saving should have this car paying for itself well before it is past it. Enjoy the Zoe. It should be great.
I’ll go into the figures in detail in another video but between the VED (for now…) and insurance savings it’s less than £100 a month before any fuel savings are considered.
I would like to see a test of the VW E-Golf if you can get one. The later version with the bigger battery, and heat pump, as it's on my short list of potential ev buys.
Zappi excellent choice , but reconsider untethered, I have a tethered version and it’s so much quicker than having to mess about getting the cable out of the car in bad weather.
Ami won’t charge on a tethered unit, I’m very likely to have some old Type 1 shonker to charge at some point for one reason or another and I can just leave a cable plugged in if I wanted the tethered experience.
I’ll be interested to hear how the charge point installation goes with Octopus. I can’t decide at the moment whether to use Octopus or a local electrician.
Will be sure to report my findings - they’ve been alright to deal with so far if a touch slow to respond (but perhaps busy - lots of salary sacrifice customers get a charger in the deal)
When mine was done Octopus were using local contractors ( ie a local EVSE supplier ). Initially they did not connect the solar feature correctly so a second visit FOC was needed. Other than that it was fine and saved me a few quid. It was also at the time when there was a subsidy available.
I am still driving my WR71 Onto Zoe with 20k on the clock. Had it since Feb 22. Great little car been to London, Bristol, and Glasgow a few times a year, off to Harrogate this Sunday. I stay on the coast by Dumfries. Only had one issues at 13000mils a battery replacement(manufacturing fault), but was fixed by Renault. It took two weeks. Other than that trouble free running.
Guess they’ll be wanting it back soon will they? 🤔
Yes I am just waiting for the email, but the good news is I am getting a discount on my rental at the moment, and still have instavolt charging. Which is my only inclusive charger for onto.
Was that a failed main battery or the 12v one?.....🤔
@@Lookup2Wakeup The main one.
@@kingwong5996 Wow, okay thanks. That's the first Zoe main battery I've heard that's failed.
Go for the best deal ever time,all the cars nowadays are the same,great video
so, are you planing on a set of wide boy tires and a whale tail spoiler for the zoe? 😊
Did I hear that right, you paid 1300 English Pounds A MONTH , for that AUDI!!! That is crazy.
£80,000 car on an all inclusive 30 day rental 🤷♂️ it’s never going to be a cheap thing.
@@ModernHeroes Still crazty thinking that's a good deal,I find it genuinely shocking .AUdi andthere ridiculous pricing 'And it may cost 80g ,it is no where near being worth that.Renault Zoe defo a better deal🖖
And look at the current depreciation on these things. People are losing 40% in two years. Once off lease, no one wants them. Local Porsche dealer will not take Taycan as part ex as they can’t shift them,
I've driven almost 60k miles in a Zoe ZE50. It's a great EV and there are some excellent used bargains now.
Haha! I bought a WR71 plate ZE50 GT Line in red and a Zappi charger 3 months ago for many of the same reasons, and am very pleased so far. However I have had to have the aircon re-gassed today for £150, important I think because it also cools the battery.
😬 ice cold at the moment but I’ll definitely keep an eye on it!
Superb choice I think. Bearing in mind what you said about the n-cap ratings only really being lower due to Renault skimping on one of the airbags, I think the Zoe would be competitive if they fixed that and fitted 100kW+ charging to them. Oh, and I'd prefer the front lights of the original car too! The reality though is that Zoe ends production soon to be replaced by the new 5. RIP Zoe, welcome new 5!
Interesting that comment by someone about 'how long for your home charger to pay for itself'? Strange one that, and one I've not heard before. I'd be willing to bet though that the person has an ICE car (or some different gadget) that costs much more than they needed to pay for adequate transport. How long before the extra outlay on that pays for itself?
It’s normally EV owners that say it! The hard core of skinflints who rely on the granny charger for all of their home charging rather than getting a proper unit installed because of said “payback period”.
@@ModernHeroes Oh wow, is that right? I was lucky I suppose, I got a grant towards mine and didn't get a granny cable with my Zoe. The price of a Renault 13 amp was not much less than fitting the charger. My current car has the trickle charger though so I get the best of all worlds now.
Really enjoyed your video, what is the music you have used?
It’s just from the UA-cam audio library - I don’t normally have much luck picking music for videos that people like so thanks! 😆
This is exactly the position I'm in myself at the moment.
We're a one car family and our diesel Golf is at the end of its life. I can't decide between a cheap Leaf or Zoe, or something with better range like the classic Ioniq or at the top of my budget a Kona etc!?
I found this really hard to beat - especially with the low rate finance offers that Renault are pushing on them. Sub £150 a month on PCP with very little deposit.
Good choice! I recently swapped my 22kw Zoe for a ZE50 GT line & on the whole very pleased with the range & tech. On a recent roadtrip I grabbed a charge at Gridserve/CCS & was somewhat surprised that I got a max of 24kw's or less after driving for an 1hr. I'd appreciate any feedback on yours (or anyone else) if this is the norm? as I was hoping to see nearer 50kw's. Regards.
Do see mixed reports on the DC charging performance - I certainly hope it’s not quite that slow though. Was that a dual charging unit that someone else was also using by any chance?
Well my 22kwh Q model Zoe would consistently rapid charge at 43kw, except in the depths of winter. But then, one by one, all the 43kw AC chargers got ripped out.😢
@@AndrewEbling don’t those only charge at 43kW for a tiny part of the charging curve?
@@ModernHeroes up to 80% in my experience, then tails off
My ZS only does max charge for 20 to 40%, then starts tailing off.
Happy motoring.
Good for you. I assume the car has got CCS DC charging?
Yes! I forgot to mention that, all of Onto’s fleet had/have the CCS option.
Does the Zoe allow you to set start and stop charging times? I have a older non smart charger... don't really want to set my alarm for 2am
Yeah you can schedule charging in the app as well as in the car, I believe. Haven’t tried yet mind.
Yes very easy to set start charge times.
@@ModernHeroes In car charge set up is great. I have set the same times for every day, so that it goes past midnight. More direct that way. I never got the app loaded anyway. I've only done a pre-heat once, not much point I feel. On the Motorway, charging at 50ish percent is desired to avoid prolonged waiting around. Sometimes the M5 services have been full, so that sort of puts desired charge out of the window. M6 charging has been getting better and more success.
Like Zoe and 52kw would be so good after the 20 or leaf. How much for your kangoo van? :)
Be around £4k I think. Either battery lease or owned depending on preference.
@@ModernHeroes well battery owned is always preferable as no rent
@@lookoutleo no warranty either though so some prefer the lease.
I liked driving ours, but the satnav/infomedia went really screwey, and Renault were hopeless trying to fix it, so we traded in for a niro. But nice car really.
Oh that's not good! Sounds quite Renault, mind.
I think nearly new Zoe’s (with the rapid DC charge option) are an absolute steal right now 👍
Up until around 2019 I was doing a 160+ mile round trip commute to Nottingham in a high spec BMW i3 REX - ideal commuting car and (at the time) still free charging at the P&R near the office.
I looked at the Zoe GT Line a couple of years back when I needed to switch out of my 30kWh Leaf.
But, even though I'm a pretty regular-shaped guy, because there was no seat height adjustment, nor 'reach' adjustment for the steering wheel, I simply couldn't get a comfortable driving position... in fact, after only about 45 minutes of driving, I had the most intense aching over my shoulders...!
So, nope... the Zoe soon got dropped for my shortlist. 🤥
I was considering this as a second car for when me or the wife needs it, but the whole 0 star safety rating is a dealbreaker for me. I actually like the look and specs too, but it’s just not on to remove safety features to save cash.
Exactly! When Tesla removed some of the FSD abilities due to the chip shortage, it was as if they'd considered what is the most not needed tech to leave out, obviously not safety tech and especially pedestrian safety tech!
Enjoy the new car
I thought you might have gone for the mk2 mgze
Ioniq matches the range with 38kwh battery. More space too.
Maybe - 2-3k more expensive for the same age/mileage and nowhere near as cheap finance available though.
I've bought an ex-ONTO 2021 GT-line as well :) Paid 13K too
Lovely colour and fairly roomy
Much more spacious than I expected!
I have a Peugeot e-208 GT, there are several things that I wasn't aware of before buying the car and I'm not quite sure how the manufacturers get away with making such false claims. When I bought the car last year, on a full charge the range was reported as 216 miles, however drive just a couple of miles down and this drops by at least 30 miles. The range reported at switch on and the published range could just have been anything they like, however its rubbish, the actual mileage and range you get is nothing like that, also there are obvious other factors like the mileage reported drops depending on the way you drive, so unless you keep your foot off the accelerator you aren't going to get anything close to the reported range. Also after having owned the car for over a year and having done over 29,000 miles the charge now doesn't report 216 miles anymore, but 193, which again isn't accurate because as I said above the same applies and this drops considerably after just a few miles. Something else I wasn't aware of is that the actual charging is effected by outside air temperature, so when its colder your charging range is much less, when its warmer you get a better charge. Apart from these issues I love the car, its so much fun to drive.
Manufacturers have a long way to go in the way they advertise and sell EVs, that’s for sure. Peugeot have a good calculator on their website that shows information on “real world” range but I bet most buyers never get told about it….
@@ModernHeroes i certainly didn’t know of it until you mentioned it!
you can not go wrong with a Zoe esp when saving for a house
Nice car, great colour and bargain. Ex rental means its well maintained.
I can't wrap my head around the Rental Fee that you paid Onto for the Audi. I lease my BEV from a Leaseloco deal for £265/mth
It’s an £80,000 car and it was fully inclusive of insurance/charging/maintenance on a 30 day contract. Couldn’t be more different to a long term lease.
Nice car, that’s what I would buy if I change my petrol car.
I would have never guessed a Zoe. If it fits your needs, it’s good choice. Still not sure what my next EV will be, my 2016 Leaf is still going strong as my commuting solution. I wouldn’t buy it now as it is obsolete.
Nice buy! Why did you go for a untethered charger?
Ami won’t charge on a tethered unit with its supplied Type 2 adaptor
@@ModernHeroes ok interesting. I'm probably going for a used e208. Looked at Zoe's but just a little boring.. But for me the e208 range is enough, I can see for you it may be a pain.
@@adamcole4808 have you driven both? I really didn’t like the e208 very much, interior wise. Drove alright though.
@@ModernHeroes Yes. Zoe drove fine but as you say the e208 is a better driving car. Personally I prefer the e208 interior but it's totally subjective. I live in a warm climate so at least 200+km range even in "winter". But if I had to do lots of driving in UK winter is would not make the list. Oh and 100kw charging helps if I do some longer journeys.
With your recent BMW i3 video and prices pretty low for them did you consider a newer BEV i3 or an older Rex i3? If so what swayed you (I can imagine but just wondered). Great content 👍
We have a 120Ah i3 in the household already - OH absolutely adores it and it’s perfect for her needs but it falls a little bit shorter on comfort and range than I’d like for longer distance work.
That’s great if you can afford to do it. I will never be able to afford an electric car. Nor will the range & charging ever work with my job
This car was available on 0% finance for less than £150 a month - considerably less than a lot of people pay for even a pretty average used ICE car. It has the potential to pay for itself over the alternative. Suitability for your use is another thing entirely of course, but the used market the way it is at the moment takes the sting out of affordability very effectively.
Ive just bought my first diesel car 😅. Everyone 5:55 I'm just getting started.
give it a year you will be getting another load balanced evse, his and hers 😊
Haha I was already thinking about putting a second 16A one on a spare circuit in the garage….
@@ModernHeroes 16A will give you about 3 miles an hour or less.
@@OutofSpecMom eh?! What on Earth are you driving if a 3.6kW charger delivers 3mi/hour?
@@ModernHeroes Look at the AMPS you're delivery, 16???
@@OutofSpecMom Assuming an average range of 4 miles per kwh, that will give almost 15 miles per hourly charge. 5 hours overnight will be in excess of 70 miles which is plenty for many people's daily usage.
Do you lease the battery? That's what put me off a Renault.
No. The ZE50 Zoe doesn’t have a leased battery and no other new Renault models do/will.
Should have stuck with the Diesel as it is the cheapest Cost to run as MPG is nearly twice that of a petrol and EV.
Think your calculator’s broken - it cost just over 16p/mile to fuel, my Zoe costs a quarter of that at my current average unit rate on Octopus Agile and could be half that again on other tariffs.
Untethered is a mistake. So much easier to have the tethered. If you have time change the order.
No, it isn’t - Ami won’t charge on a tethered unit and I’ve no doubt I’ll have some Type 1 bilge to charge at some point. If I want it to be like a tethered charger I can just leave a cable plugged in 🤷♂️
@ModernHeroes fair enough. I have 1 niro. So not getting a cable from the boot is worth it.
EV prices have plummeted beyond belief. The people have spoken...they don't want EV'S as they are not fit for purpose. I have an MG ZS EV by the way and its fine round town and small runs but 200+ mile journeys are out of the question with a family.
🤷♂️ that’s one way to blindly parrot what you see in the Daily Mail, sure. Alternative explanation is that a massive increase in supply means cars are returning to actually depreciating again instead of changing hands for very close to / more than they cost new - anyone who thought that was going to continue is very short sighted indeed.
An EV bargain well done✅
Nice registration number
Is it? 🤷♂️
2021 Renault Zoe NCAP safety rating of 0 stars😮 That is shockingly bad!
Meh. It was a 5 star car in 2013, people like to dribble on about NCAP but I don’t care much.
@@ModernHeroes They changed the test since then. You do not want to be in an accident in that car.
@@MarkSmith-lu7ly right, so it’s much less safe than it was in 2013 because the test is different 🤪. Nonsense. I do wonder how some people manage to leave the house, the stress of all of the things that could happen to injure/kill you whilst walking down the road must be too much.
@@ModernHeroes They removed a head airbag since then. You really should read the report. In any case it's clear we have different priorities of what we want from a car.
You have some strange mathematics... £13k is never one third of £30k it is nearly half!!
A decent E-Tron 55 is closer to 40k than 30 so my point still stands.
@ModernHeroes So say 40.... not 30 then. Jesus Audis take the P on prices! A decent Enyak would do. Without paying for the badge.
@@mikadavies660 an Enyaq is nothing like the full fat e-Tron. The Q4 is the Audi equivelant and it’s god awful.
Did you say you were paying £1300 a month for a car?.....😮
For a short term all inclusive (inc public charging) rental, yes.
That’s a bargain alright, just don’t have a collision in it……. DO NOT fit an untethered charger, you Will understand why within a week of you do.
Bit dramatic - there are far more unsafe cars out there (and I’ve driven a lot of them!) amazing how much influence NCAP has though.
What's an untethered charger?
We traded in our 65 plate 22kwh Zoe for an MG ZS EV, after a string of big repair bills. I much prefer the drive of the Zoe and really miss it. The ZS is OK, and more practical for a family with teens and a dog, but I don't think I'll miss it when I trade it in for something else.
Oh dear........
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Hate to say it but there is a reason why there is a big drop in EV sales! However much you like to paint how good an EV is I like to get to A to B as quickly as possible within the driving limits! Not to add on extra hours on to your journey filling up on electric!! ! Also Tesla fantastic software and infrastructure but boy are they ugly! Give me a ford mustang any day!! Even the BMW electric cars are better looking. Still won’t get them. Geoff buys cars and McMaster are realistic! Also quite a lot of them just catch fire. Yep there is a cover up on that too!
Hey mate, you're going to miss that diesel. Even with 200,000 Miles, it was good for 500,000 easily and the range of the diesel is incomparable. I'll never get rid of mine. May supplement the diesel with a BEV, BUT that diesel is staying with me . Western England eh??
The range was largely irrelevant apart from the one time a year I do more than 200 miles in one hit 🤷♂️
@@ModernHeroes Fair enough. If you're running local like Bristol, I can see that, but for jaunts from London to Manchester I'd like a whole lot more range.
Bet you haven’t got a smart phone.
London to Manchester is just under 200 miles 🤷♂️
@@andytunnicliffe7223 OK mate, keep wishing!! Diesel still rules for long range running.
Renault EV bargain...Ami still rubbish...
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Dont park this thermal runaway on your property it will take everything with it if it catches fire
Why would it catch fire?
Disagree abought the Ohme Commando best way for home charger (pity you cant get one now) easy install no need for paying so called ev installer experts (who are taking the P!ss ) coupled with octopus intelligent the best way to home charge by far 6 hours at 7.5p bring it on
I have ohme commando for past couple years,been great solution.