Nice video , I think al the sails in a bag in deck could be a problem in high winds and bad weather. If something gets loose you have a terrible problem i think. Endless reefing systems are not so durable as roller furlers. The top boats use, brake and get new ones for racing. I live dynema rigging and going to fit my contest 38 with it. But except for the forestays. My thoughts are 1 kutter roller and 1 staysail roller. And 1 dynema forestay extra for light wind wing on wing. No trouble hank on in light wind. No work on deck in high wind. Love to see how you like youre setup, i might change my mind then. All the best machiel
Hi, The only sails we will have on deck will be the staysail and storm jib. But it won't be very often. The storm jib will only come out when we expect to need it soon. So if a storm is forecast we bring it out and hank-on at the mast before conditions deteriorate too much. This way the bag is by the mast behind the dinghy to leave as little exposed as possible. Once flying the storm jib we would bag the staysail and bring it aft. We can wait until conditions improve a lot before getting ready to hoist the staysail again. Even earlier we would furl, lower the yankee and bring aft for reduced windage. We hope our roller furling will last longer because we are not abusing it as much as if racing. We will see how it goes and share :-)
This was an interesting discussion; thanks for sharing. Maybe I missed something about the new stay sail, but I do not see any back stay support for the main mast where it is attached. Do you have any comments? Cheers.
We forgot to mention that yes we are fitting checkstays and runners for the inner forestay (we know it's not ideal that we don't have spreaders at the connection point).
Watch out not to miss the chance of getting higher aspect ratio's. And higher masts is something you always regret having done earlier. Another question is, do you REALLY want a mizzen?
Some changes would only be possible if we replaced the whole rig. That's way beyond our budget and I guess most people wanting that would probably buy a higher performance, lighter, wider, newer boat which would have a fractional sloop rig. We are more looking at incremental changes. We needed new sails as they were worn out, so we have made changes like to cutter rig which are in tune with many Rivals. Similarly switching to continuous line furlers is closer to the original design and higher performance than roller reefing genoas where one sail is used for all wind strengths.
We didn't look for a boat with a mizzen. It is a disadvantage for fitting lots of solar panels. But we love the extra safety of a 2nd mast and the very easy response to a squall (furl the Yankee and drop the mainsail). If we got rid of the mizzen we would need to replace the main mast to get back the sail area. That doesn't sound like a good idea to us.
Apologies that when the GoPro got hot the sound quality went down for a while in the middle 3rd of the recording
Very interesting video thanks for sharing
We were a bit nervous about a long talking video so very pleased you found it interesting.
Very interesting vid ... I have no other comment apart from I hope this help your algorithm thingo's
Thanks 😁
Nice video ,
I think al the sails in a bag in deck could be a problem in high winds and bad weather.
If something gets loose you have a terrible problem i think.
Endless reefing systems are not so durable as roller furlers.
The top boats use, brake and get new ones for racing.
I live dynema rigging and going to fit my contest 38 with it.
But except for the forestays.
My thoughts are 1 kutter roller and 1 staysail roller.
And 1 dynema forestay extra for light wind wing on wing.
No trouble hank on in light wind.
No work on deck in high wind.
Love to see how you like youre setup, i might change my mind then.
All the best machiel
Hi,
The only sails we will have on deck will be the staysail and storm jib. But it won't be very often. The storm jib will only come out when we expect to need it soon. So if a storm is forecast we bring it out and hank-on at the mast before conditions deteriorate too much. This way the bag is by the mast behind the dinghy to leave as little exposed as possible. Once flying the storm jib we would bag the staysail and bring it aft. We can wait until conditions improve a lot before getting ready to hoist the staysail again. Even earlier we would furl, lower the yankee and bring aft for reduced windage.
We hope our roller furling will last longer because we are not abusing it as much as if racing.
We will see how it goes and share :-)
This was an interesting discussion; thanks for sharing. Maybe I missed something about the new stay sail, but I do not see any back stay support for the main mast where it is attached. Do you have any comments? Cheers.
had the same thought. gonna need runners or go to the mast top.
We forgot to mention that yes we are fitting checkstays and runners for the inner forestay (we know it's not ideal that we don't have spreaders at the connection point).
Yup, runners and checkstays coming 😄
Watch out not to miss the chance of getting higher aspect ratio's. And higher masts is something you always regret having done earlier. Another question is, do you REALLY want a mizzen?
Some changes would only be possible if we replaced the whole rig. That's way beyond our budget and I guess most people wanting that would probably buy a higher performance, lighter, wider, newer boat which would have a fractional sloop rig.
We are more looking at incremental changes. We needed new sails as they were worn out, so we have made changes like to cutter rig which are in tune with many Rivals.
Similarly switching to continuous line furlers is closer to the original design and higher performance than roller reefing genoas where one sail is used for all wind strengths.
We didn't look for a boat with a mizzen. It is a disadvantage for fitting lots of solar panels. But we love the extra safety of a 2nd mast and the very easy response to a squall (furl the Yankee and drop the mainsail).
If we got rid of the mizzen we would need to replace the main mast to get back the sail area. That doesn't sound like a good idea to us.