Were These Mythical Warriors Real? What New Discoveries Reveal | Fate & Fabled
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- Опубліковано 29 лис 2023
- Ancient Greeks portrayed Amazons as very real bloodthirsty, man-hating warrior women in their art for centuries, and then they faded into myth. Modern archaeological evidence suggests that the myths were inspired by fighting women from nomadic tribes in the Eurasian Steppes, revealing the ways that Greek writers exaggerated reality.
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I like to think these warriors were like modern day mma fighters or boxers. They were probably the best fighters but overtime their stories got exaggerated and they became superhuman.
I've also heard the Scithians,because of their horsemanship ,were an inspiration for the centaurs. So the men were centaurs and the women were amazons
Amazon's were a scythian tribe - one of five groups attached to tribal gods. From research, they offered training and refuge to abused women. They went to war right alongside their men. With the other Scythians they dispersed partway through conquering of Persia. The Scythians were the origin of metal working.
honestly I thought the 'removed breasts' thing was just clueless Greeks misinterpreting Scythian women binding their breasts (ancient sports-bras!)
So excited to see the Scythian wartior women show up here. It's such a rich and interesting culture that is under-explored.
As always, humans not only fear what they don't understand...they are envious of 'the other's' successes. Imagine a Greek soldier being bested by not only a Sythian soldier, but a woman, as well?! The audacity😮
ok, but was amazon prime real
Why is Achilles falling in love with Hippolyta an issue? Sure his relationship with Patroclus is pretty queer-coded, but that doesn't prevent him from being bisexual.
"Amazon" may be derived from the Persian word "ha-mazan", which means "warrior". Also there are other versions of how Amazons reproduced: one version of the Hercules' labor story depicted men tending to the children while the women competed with Herc. In that version men did live among the Amazons as husbands and fathers, but were crippled in infancy so that they would never go to war. Another version says that there was an all-male society that the Amazons would visit occasionally to copulate with. These men would keep the male babies, while the women would take the girl babies with them. This all-male tribe was called the Gargareans.
I love the current thinking that they were Scythian horse nomads, they're sequencing DNA of these burials and finding a high number of women with typical signs of fighting like larger shoulder muscles (archery maybe) and leg muscles, bowing of the legs (from basically living in the saddle) and healed fractures of regular fighters. I can see how this travelled to places like Greece and became the myth of the Amazons
You didn't mention that Scythian fashion was many-coloured and had gorgeous detailed patterns and that they invented trousers.
well yeah...but Xena was really a Cylon.
It occurs to me just how much this sounds like J.R.R. Tolken's Lord of the Rings Kingdom of Rohan and its Shieldmaiden, Eowyn. Probably not qualifying as nomadic, Rohan was still very much about horses and did train their women to fight. The big difference, of course, is that Eowyn actually won against her enemy and lived to settle down and get married.
As a Thracian and euroasian it’s so nice to be seen by one of my favorite channels. Also good job explaining amazone history.
Some fact checking, and I found that there are accounts from Egypt, Greece, Persia, and even China describing these similar steppe tribes with warrior women. Greeks called them Scythians, which the Amazons would be part of/inspired by, the Persians called them the Saka, and the Chinese called them the Xiongnu (which served as inspiration for the Huns in Disney's Mulan as they are suggested to be related).
I love how much fun you two seem to be having while making these excellent videos. 😊❤
I’d LOVE to see what you have to say on the several variations and origins behind the legend of Mulan.
The story of the Amazon's remind me of an old saying. " Hell hath no fury like a woman scorn. "
"Wait, don't I also love Patroclus? Why can't these writers make up their mind?" 😂😂😂
I’m hoping one of your future Pantheon Picks will be Kali, because she is an absolute badass