The malzeno variant is probably gonna be the real fatalis of this game imo, and as the base mal armor was a pretty solid early master rank stat set, i imagine the variant might be really strong like the ristrax set
Realized we are gonna get a new weapon for the mal variant also, since its a variant like flespinas and lucent narg. I wonder what element it could be. Not water or fire, which is good bc theres no way itd beat those options, but maybe dragon again, in fact imo very likely dragon again. Imagine if it was exhaust lmao
I think that the grinder S set with heaven sent would be nice. and if you'd be able to slot in redirection lvl2 and use it well then you'd be able to nullify any attack comming your way that way and not loose heaven sent.
one thing to note is that Heaven-Sent isn't deactivated by roar, tripping attack, pin attack, teammate knockback (except bomb), it also can activate while you're wyvern riding, sheathing, using items, as long as you're in combat and stay close enough to monsters. currently I'm using it on some of my element dragon conversion sets. you start in blue, activate dragon conversion with some sharpness lose then swap back to red scroll to refill sharpness back and make it stay that way. kinda hard for SA than DB tho since the weapon itself is slower but it feels good not to lose all your sharpness while zsd XD
Frenzied bloodlust works on weapons that A) have silkbinds that are strong, and B) can access these attacks without sheathing often. Sheathing instantly removes this extra wirebug, nullifying the skill instantly, and weapons that have sluggish movement with an unsheathed weapon struggle to utilize the extra bug in the time frame. It’s noted that wirebug whisperer 1 doesn’t affect frenzied bloodlust at all, though it appears wirebug whisperer 3 does. I’d suspect for switch axe, Aerial style gameplay would work slightly better now as you can combo Zero sum+Wyvern blade+ switch charger twice over for big damage. Burst counter isn’t impacted too much imo, but being able to do 2 in quick succession is noteworthy. Also due to how bloodlust works, coalescence with low affinity element or status could be the play here, since SwitchAxe can cure frenzy quickly
I find it a crazy coincidence that I managed to pull the exact same best talisman (so far) as you. Rapid morph 3, CB 1, and three 2-slots. Also, I appreciate your swaxe videos, they're always so informative. Keep it up, good sir
Quick shout out, the update increased sharpness so most elemental metas, almu and the like, only need 1 handicraft for purple instead of 2 now and that also opens up a lot
I'm quite bummed out by the armor sets in TU5 for SwAxe, it's not that bad, I hear it, especially when I see that Heaven Sent synergizes with Grinder S, but all in all, I expected a little more for a final monster (not to the Fatalis' set madness tho). I'm a bit sad we only had power phials in updates (iirc) and still have to rely on the same pool of 5 elemental weapons since the launch of SB.
With the magnitude of every other update this one does feel a bit soft minus the absurd ceiling on the new talismans. Not getting new weapons does indeed feel bad. We did get element phial with flespinas but the problem is the existing elem phials were just too good in combination with element being pushed so hard in sunbreak. Frankly, if element wasn’t pushed as hard the conversations around weapons would be more difficult kind of like it was before TU1. But with build element values over 200 the only better option will be a element phial with more base element lol.
@@AifritGaming Indeed although this update did not bring anything new for the SA the new melding made your already amazing builds even more crazy. With your Dragon Conversion build + dereliction I am able to take down anomaly monsters from 12 to 7 minutes and elder dragons from 17 to 11 minutes and I am loven'it.
Man if I'm good at this game those two new armor set is a godsent. Sadly I still kinda suck lol, especially in multiplayer where most of the time the monster always targets me lol. Kept chugging those pots and boom I miss the heavensent benefits
Hahah, I get hit a lot too! I've found with the 15 seconds at heavensent level 2/3 and intrepid heart it's not too bad. Unless you are taking advantage of the stamina with maximum might, heavensent's only purpose is to keep you at purple sharpness. So even if you're getting it to just scroll swap and restore sharpness instead of having to use your whetstone it seems good to me.
I wonder - with Dragon Conversion capable of being augmented onto armor now, is there _any_ reason to use Power Phial SwAxes with element now over their Element Phial counterparts? Is there any reason to run, say, Zinogre over Khezu/Narwa, Daora over Lagombi, Rathalos over Magmadron, or Daimyo over Almudron? Are there any matchups where having the 15% extra raw is better than the 45% extra element now that Element values can blow past the 200 mark? I know status SwAxes are good when paired with Buildup Boost, and a good Poison axe seems to still be the best choice against (Risen) Kushala when augmented with Foray, while (Risen) Valstrax's immunity to elemental damage (save for the front claws) while it's charged up means that running elemental damage at all is pretty much a waste.
I think this is accurate. Because element damage increased so much that it nearly doubled. The 45% extra on element phial really pushes it to be powerful even when element exploit is not active. Typically element power phials would see use in the high rhzv low ehzv targets but I do think element has raised so high now that element phial is stronger in those cases. If raw also increased by over 50% then we might be having conversations around power phial still. I can believe there may be just a couple match ups where power phial elem might be better (extreme cases like narwa sac, maybe hot bazel face) but I wouldn't expect that difference to be more than a couple % difference.
so uhhhh yep, amatsu sa, contrary to velkhana vs lagombi, beat the crab as the best magnamalo bullying machine amatsu armor kinda suck to be honest though, best case scenario i can see is using the legs tying to augment away his new skill for something better like... dunno... 4-4-4 slots biggest gamechanger of all is getting dragon conversion 3 on a charm, if it comes with good slots /second skill you can put in the trash the risen valstrax armor end bring back from the dead the generic but way more efficient armor pieces like risen teostra mail for example, to fit a lot more skills or make room for frenzied bloodlust, that looks really really nice (especially for stupid me who's too lazy to grab wild wirebugs), i would personally stop at 2 points, 1 minute sounds good enough, which happens to be the duration of bloodlust, so in an ideal world you have a 10 seconds downtime every minute in which you activate bloodlust again
I think previous TU4 DC sets don’t do as well with amatsu SA but as you said the dc charm might open it up to be pretty crazy against mag because we can fill in all the raw skills for the power phial. Risen teo head + body and shag hands + waist and Val legs looks good to me with a DC or furious talisman. Slightly unfortunate overcap on wex but still quite efficient.
At level one heavensent will take 30 seconds to come up so it kind of depends on how much you get knocked over. I personally use 2 points to reduce the time to 15 seconds. With this I never have a problem with having heavensent up when hitting blue.
Yeah I think that’s fair for optimal matchups, it should be creeping down to only a handful of targets with bad ehzv now. Can just chop feet in those too.
@@robertomacetti7069 not realy, rn element swaxe has reached it's peak, you can build dc3 in augments and have good set with 100% crit and even some good raw boosting skills like moh in it, you can literally have everything you want in the build, only in very very few match ups (3 or 2) raw can catch up
The malzeno variant is probably gonna be the real fatalis of this game imo, and as the base mal armor was a pretty solid early master rank stat set, i imagine the variant might be really strong like the ristrax set
Also unrelated to swaxe meta but oh my fucking god my expectations for the variant mal fight are way too high i am so excited
Realized we are gonna get a new weapon for the mal variant also, since its a variant like flespinas and lucent narg. I wonder what element it could be. Not water or fire, which is good bc theres no way itd beat those options, but maybe dragon again, in fact imo very likely dragon again. Imagine if it was exhaust lmao
I think that the grinder S set with heaven sent would be nice. and if you'd be able to slot in redirection lvl2 and use it well then you'd be able to nullify any attack comming your way that way and not loose heaven sent.
Ah yes.. redirection is a pretty interesting option to use with heaven sent.
one thing to note is that Heaven-Sent isn't deactivated by roar, tripping attack, pin attack, teammate knockback (except bomb), it also can activate while you're wyvern riding, sheathing, using items, as long as you're in combat and stay close enough to monsters.
currently I'm using it on some of my element dragon conversion sets. you start in blue, activate dragon conversion with some sharpness lose then swap back to red scroll to refill sharpness back and make it stay that way. kinda hard for SA than DB tho since the weapon itself is slower but it feels good not to lose all your sharpness while zsd XD
Frenzied bloodlust works on weapons that A) have silkbinds that are strong, and B) can access these attacks without sheathing often. Sheathing instantly removes this extra wirebug, nullifying the skill instantly, and weapons that have sluggish movement with an unsheathed weapon struggle to utilize the extra bug in the time frame. It’s noted that wirebug whisperer 1 doesn’t affect frenzied bloodlust at all, though it appears wirebug whisperer 3 does. I’d suspect for switch axe, Aerial style gameplay would work slightly better now as you can combo Zero sum+Wyvern blade+ switch charger twice over for big damage. Burst counter isn’t impacted too much imo, but being able to do 2 in quick succession is noteworthy. Also due to how bloodlust works, coalescence with low affinity element or status could be the play here, since SwitchAxe can cure frenzy quickly
I find it a crazy coincidence that I managed to pull the exact same best talisman (so far) as you. Rapid morph 3, CB 1, and three 2-slots. Also, I appreciate your swaxe videos, they're always so informative. Keep it up, good sir
Thank you!! That is quite the coincidence lol. I got mine through cyclus targetting Rapid Morph!
Quick shout out, the update increased sharpness so most elemental metas, almu and the like, only need 1 handicraft for purple instead of 2 now and that also opens up a lot
I'm quite bummed out by the armor sets in TU5 for SwAxe, it's not that bad, I hear it, especially when I see that Heaven Sent synergizes with Grinder S, but all in all, I expected a little more for a final monster (not to the Fatalis' set madness tho). I'm a bit sad we only had power phials in updates (iirc) and still have to rely on the same pool of 5 elemental weapons since the launch of SB.
With the magnitude of every other update this one does feel a bit soft minus the absurd ceiling on the new talismans. Not getting new weapons does indeed feel bad. We did get element phial with flespinas but the problem is the existing elem phials were just too good in combination with element being pushed so hard in sunbreak. Frankly, if element wasn’t pushed as hard the conversations around weapons would be more difficult kind of like it was before TU1. But with build element values over 200 the only better option will be a element phial with more base element lol.
@@AifritGaming Indeed although this update did not bring anything new for the SA the new melding made your already amazing builds even more crazy. With your Dragon Conversion build + dereliction I am able to take down anomaly monsters from 12 to 7 minutes and elder dragons from 17 to 11 minutes and I am loven'it.
Man if I'm good at this game those two new armor set is a godsent. Sadly I still kinda suck lol, especially in multiplayer where most of the time the monster always targets me lol.
Kept chugging those pots and boom I miss the heavensent benefits
Hahah, I get hit a lot too! I've found with the 15 seconds at heavensent level 2/3 and intrepid heart it's not too bad. Unless you are taking advantage of the stamina with maximum might, heavensent's only purpose is to keep you at purple sharpness. So even if you're getting it to just scroll swap and restore sharpness instead of having to use your whetstone it seems good to me.
Welcome back =)
I wonder - with Dragon Conversion capable of being augmented onto armor now, is there _any_ reason to use Power Phial SwAxes with element now over their Element Phial counterparts? Is there any reason to run, say, Zinogre over Khezu/Narwa, Daora over Lagombi, Rathalos over Magmadron, or Daimyo over Almudron? Are there any matchups where having the 15% extra raw is better than the 45% extra element now that Element values can blow past the 200 mark? I know status SwAxes are good when paired with Buildup Boost, and a good Poison axe seems to still be the best choice against (Risen) Kushala when augmented with Foray, while (Risen) Valstrax's immunity to elemental damage (save for the front claws) while it's charged up means that running elemental damage at all is pretty much a waste.
I think this is accurate. Because element damage increased so much that it nearly doubled. The 45% extra on element phial really pushes it to be powerful even when element exploit is not active. Typically element power phials would see use in the high rhzv low ehzv targets but I do think element has raised so high now that element phial is stronger in those cases. If raw also increased by over 50% then we might be having conversations around power phial still. I can believe there may be just a couple match ups where power phial elem might be better (extreme cases like narwa sac, maybe hot bazel face) but I wouldn't expect that difference to be more than a couple % difference.
I was so upset when i began melding, only for all my element builds to not use the new charms I got for swax.
but for other weapons....
hoo boy.
Melding is like fantic. Probably going with MoH builds over DC lol
Yeah MoH strife is better. I get hit too much frankly lol.
@@AifritGaming Wire step helps a lot, at least for me. Although you basically are grounded always.
so uhhhh
yep, amatsu sa, contrary to velkhana vs lagombi, beat the crab as the best magnamalo bullying machine
amatsu armor kinda suck to be honest though, best case scenario i can see is using the legs tying to augment away his new skill for something better like... dunno... 4-4-4 slots
biggest gamechanger of all is getting dragon conversion 3 on a charm, if it comes with good slots /second skill you can put in the trash the risen valstrax armor end bring back from the dead the generic but way more efficient armor pieces like risen teostra mail for example, to fit a lot more skills
or make room for frenzied bloodlust, that looks really really nice (especially for stupid me who's too lazy to grab wild wirebugs), i would personally stop at 2 points, 1 minute sounds good enough, which happens to be the duration of bloodlust, so in an ideal world you have a 10 seconds downtime every minute in which you activate bloodlust again
I think previous TU4 DC sets don’t do as well with amatsu SA but as you said the dc charm might open it up to be pretty crazy against mag because we can fill in all the raw skills for the power phial. Risen teo head + body and shag hands + waist and Val legs looks good to me with a DC or furious talisman. Slightly unfortunate overcap on wex but still quite efficient.
The nargacug weapon + grinder is an amazing idea, will it work nicely with just amatsu skill level 1?
At level one heavensent will take 30 seconds to come up so it kind of depends on how much you get knocked over. I personally use 2 points to reduce the time to 15 seconds. With this I never have a problem with having heavensent up when hitting blue.
What are your thoughts on the seething bazel swaxe, in can have 415 raw with a rampage 3 slot, the only downside is -15% affinity
Yeah negative affinity and less slots put it a little behind I think compared to scorned magnamalo but it’s not by a lot I think.
If scroll swapping activates grinder s then I know what Im making lol
dragon conversion is on augments
in tu5 there's basically no reason to use status brah
Yeah I think that’s fair for optimal matchups, it should be creeping down to only a handful of targets with bad ehzv now. Can just chop feet in those too.
well
in low elemental hitzones match ups exhaust sa with buildup boost can put up a heck of a fight
@@robertomacetti7069 not realy, rn element swaxe has reached it's peak, you can build dc3 in augments and have good set with 100% crit and even some good raw boosting skills like moh in it, you can literally have everything you want in the build, only in very very few match ups (3 or 2) raw can catch up
also exaust got a good boost but it still worse then element 95% of the cases, at least it's now it's the best raw build you can have
btw i forgot one thing but uh element also can have critical element so your loop combo realy hits way harder on element