How Woke Conquered the World & Why It Threatens Democracy, Tolerance & Reason
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2022
- Wokeness has conquered our institutions. The worlds of politics, academia and even corporate capitalism now bend the knee to the new orthodoxies around gender, racism and identity. In her new book, "How Woke Won", Joanna Williams explores the intellectual roots of wokeness and how this movement, which poses as radical and left-wing, came to be embraced by some of the most privileged people imaginable.
Joanna argues that anyone interested in building a truly free, egalitarian and democratic society needs to tackle wokeness head-on.
Joanna Williams is founder of the Cieo think tank and a writer for Spiked Online, The Spectator and the Times.
To order Joanna's book "How Woke Won: The Elitist Movement That Threatens Democracy, Tolerance and Reason", please click here: www.amazon.co.uk/How-Woke-Won...
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Regrettably whatever form woke takes is underpinned by Neo-Marxist rooted theory and education infiltrated with critical theories of the like of Paola Freire and all the rest from Marcuse, ripping the fabric of Western society. How do we push back against this indoctrination from infant school to the heart of higher education, institutions and even commercial organizations. The thread of whether BLM, etc, rooted in critical race theory - white equals racist/privileged on and on without end. I despair!
i strongly suspect that this woman is a lunatic who cannot explain why not being racist threatens democracy
This lady asked "What are schools for?" They are day-prisons for children, which allow parents time to go to work and earn money, most of which will be stolen by the state in direct and indirect taxes.
This is so true. I'm Australian and in the 1970s a factory worker could afford a modest house, maintain a car, and support a wife and a few kids. Today this takes two parents working full time, and a daycare worker, and they are all taxed by the government.
@@grannyannie2948 It was the same in Britain. This changed with the Women's Liberation movement. Women were persuaded that, if they didn't go out to work, they were somehow inferior to men.
Back in the sixties, when I was a child, my mum looked after me and my brother. She went to the local shops most days to buy fresh meat and vegetables. She cleaned the house. She visited her mother, who was crippled with arthritis, several times a week to do her shopping, cooking and cleaning. She helped our neighbours by babysitting occasionally and they did the same for her. She made sure that my dad's dinner was ready when he came home, and we always had nutritious, if sometimes boring, food to eat. She taught me and my brother to speak properly. She could do these things more or less whenever she wanted. She could take breaks any time. She could go to visit friends and family regularly and often. If she had been interested, she could have done a bit of gardening and grown vegetables, which some of our neighbours did. She was the boss of the house.
My mum did many jobs, but none of the work she did was taxable. That's why the government was so supportive of women getting jobs outside the home. If women went out to work, they would earn tax for the government. And because they were no longer at home, they would need someone else to do the jobs that they could no longer do, such as bringing up their children. Thus, nurseries sprang up, where women could leave their children to be looked after by strangers for most of each day. The people who looked after them - mostly other women - could also be taxed. What a wonderful situation for the government. They were raking it in.
Of course, this increase in the supply of labour led to a fall in the price of labour. Wages went down in real terms. My dad earned £8 a week when I was a young child. But that was enough to pay the rent, feed and clothe the family, buy us all presents at Christmas and take us on holiday every year. How much would you have to earn now to do that?
Women were lied to, and sadly they believed the lies. They thought they were going to escape the drudgery of being a housewife and embark on a new life of freedom. What they didn't realise was that they were giving up some of the best years of their lives, watching their children grow, and subjecting themselves to state slavery.
@@Pwecko That's exactly right, feminists never recognised the cottage industries of housewives. I remember growing vegetables and keeping hens for eggs. Other women did dressmaking. But we traded skills and produce, and as you say we paid no tax.
I lived through the period. My mother was very taken by women's liberation. And that first generation of married mothers got huge advantages by working. They doubled the family income, at a time when one income was sufficient. The trouble was they ruined it for the generations to come.
By both working it became impossible for families on one income to buy a house. I know it's a little different in Britain, but in Australia couples are expected to buy a house before they have children. And making housing more expensive meant less kids were born.
By the 90s most married mothers were working and the government and their building industry mates had squeezed all the blood out of Australians. They drastically increased immigration, because ofcourse immigrants also buy or rent houses. The census before last showed that half of the people living in Australia, including newborns, were born in another country or their parents were. And we compete for housing not just with them, but with wealthy foreign investors who buy houses in the same way they would invest in shares.
I know Britain also has immigration problems. When you follow the money in housing you'll discover why.
@@grannyannie2948 People allow it to happen, elect shit leaders, and then complain.
The age at which children are put into paid for nurseries is now down to two years old. These are largely staffed by women who are themselves not with their children if they are mothers. These appear to sometimes have longer hours than schools with the children not being picked up by a parent until six o'clock. This is the industrialisation of child care and turning bringing up a child into a business. This is pre-school then the process of removing the child from both parents for most of the day is continued
The walk through the institution is reaping fruit. Now is the time to fight back. Totally agree with everything this lady has to say .👏
To fight back we need to rid ourselves of the Tories who are determined to prevent us fighting back.
You are not alone.
@@rabmcleod3508 I second that.
No, it's overdue to fight back--
way overdue!
In a nutshell woke equals hypocrite.
And yes she is absolutely right, it is grounded in contempt for working class people and a totalitarian society where these privileged people have even more power and advantages than they already have is what they want for the future.
This lady is spot on. Nails it
what utter fucking bollocks, it vital to be racist now is it?
Absolutely.
Does she nail a solution?
@@warmasterhorus Speak out. Do not comply. Make fun of and point out the ridiculousness. Shame them. Use their tactics right back at them.
@@seaslob2820 I agree with all that but their institutional power is nearly total so that alone will not suffice. The problem is who controls the institutions.
Piece of advice, how to easily use their own tactics against them: if you go into a shop/bank/business and see people wearing pronoun badges, you should ask to speak to the manager, ask them if they made employees wear those, and tell them you're taking your business elsewhere as these badges make you "feel unwelcome/uncomfortable/unsafe" (if they ask why, tell them they should know and them not knowing is part of the problem), and leave. Wokeness won by taking advantage of people's willingness to pander to any irrational nonsense as long as it's packaged in hypersensitive language, so use it against them. It's not like the left needed to provide good reasons to get what they want, so why should we? We need to start using their own tactics against them, even if it seems inappropriate and unreasonable.
Well okay, but chances are these days if you "ask to speak to the manager" they'll just send for security and have you removed from the building.
Imagine feeling unsafe coz of pronouns, now that's snowflake behaviour
@@catross3713 And that is his point. Snowflake behaviour is, by definition, ridiculous, so we ridicule them by doing so.
@@afifahhamilton8843 the tactics are the problem right so why repeat what you find detestable. Cutting off the nose to spite the face.
I'm Australian, and many people including myself, have tried to use the ABCs own discrimination policies against them when they openly criticize white people, men etc. They simply ignore these complaints, even when thousands make them together. Their indoctrination has convinced them that they are always correct.
Thank you Peter and Joanna for an honest , common sense conversation. Voices of reason amongst the madness.
Can't concentrate on what she is saying because I am worried she will spill her coffee all over her knee.
Do these interviews have a producer? Content always so good in the NCF videos ...Presentation, camerawork and direction less good!
Joanna is a breath of fresh air. No words salad, straight forward thinking and speech. Thank you for letting us watch this interview. I am now off to buy her book.
Yes l am sure she was on before.
It is not difficult. We live in a world where truth is denied and ignored, or punished for being exposed.. Here, put it to the test for yourselves..
spaceandmotion
Me too! Thank you Joanna.
I would too but got to read Douglas Murray first that I just brought!
Just purchased one and it’s coming tomorrow 👍
Wokism won't reverse until it oversteps the bounds and triggers a pushback
I loved what Williams had to say about school because the situation is very much the same in Germany where I am. Kids here are also indoctrinated with Green ideology from a very young age and a lot of time is wasted on in school on "group activities" that don't yield results and the real work of learning how to read and write and do math is delegated to homework! It's absolutely outrageous. As for the general political situation - I feel homeless too. I'm a traditional leftist and I feel that the comrades I've known for many years have recently gone completely bonkers. They have become esoteric worshippers of nature. They don't see themselves as socialists anymore but "eco-socialists". While I see myself as a humanist they want to save humanity *and* "nature" without ever explaining what they even mean by that. They're arguing against economic growth while still wanting to lift the world out of poverty which I think is utter nonsense. They've also largely submitted to identify politics especially gender ideology. None of them seem to realize that their views are anti-humanist, anti-working class, misogynistic, liberal and elitist. They've also become averse to open debate which is seen as being aggressive. Woke has been acting like a virus that has re-programmed the left into hyperliberal authoritarian braindead zombies.
Precisely - drive a wedge between parents and offspring.
Hyperliberal authoritarian brain-dead zombies. I couldn’t have put it better.
Spot on.
Describing the woke in Germany you're describing every western country now.
Joanna Williams has articulated what ''WOKE'' actually is. Well done.
Joanna's new book is superb; highly recommended!
Dr Joanne Williams is always on the money… she writes for Spiked which is always great.. This conversation was really great and factual about this Woke Left Cancer… NCF in my opinion is the best UA-cam channel exposing the truth which is decaying Britain… great show.
To woke teachers, the bullying of the non-woke is perfectly acceptable.
More nonsense from Feeble Fred!
@@salfordguy399 Your comments are meaningless nonsense.
@@fredbloggs5902 Thx.
It's taken 3 generations to get here..Gen 4 won't know there was ever a pre-woke world. Check out Yuri Bezmenov :
1) Demoralization,
2) Destabilization,
3) Crisis,
4) Normalization.
We're at 3rd stage.
Correct. It is astounding how few people, even politically active people, that have never seen Bezmenov's interview.
Check out the fact that Yuri FAILED .. Soviet KGB he was part didnt come within a Bulls Roar of winning..
AND it was the LEFT in that beat them more than the
- British Labor defeated them in the Malaya war
- Hungarian & Czechoslovakuprisings were from the left
- Left Polish Union Solidarity
Just calm down
yes there are some silly people on the far left.. but thats not the same thing ,, & its not most of the Left
@@cyclist68
Europa the last battle,
Is also something you need to watch. It’s an eye opener. It’s in ten parts, make sure,
that you watch them ALL..
It gets more poignant as you go along.
Like the cyclical nature of time universe we being in the late stages of cultural political decay and the fourth turning is worth a look
I am a Canadian citizen and resident. England has an excellent array of journalists and commentators, among them Ella Whelan, Tom Slater, Brendan O'Neil and Peter Whittle. I should add, as well, the guys hosting Trigernometry. Over here, unfortunately, we have no such media personnel. It is instead a one horse town dominated by the CBC and other mainstream media who absolutely and without exception embrace everything woke. In fact it goes beyond that sorry state. Contrary opinion is snuffed out and those voicing it regarded as some form of knuckle-draggers. Our Prime Minister has taken to saying of persons in opposition to his policies on vaccine mandates and peaceable protest, ' they are all homophobes. misogynists, xenophobes and Islamophobes." Forget about free speech, rational discussion and debate. Peter Whittle hits it out of the park time and time again.
Remembering that very good Psychological Test that was done some years ago - Where a room full of strangers were put into a room with just a few Actors. When the Lecturer asked questions of the class one of the actors would answer with an Obviously WRONG Answer and the lecturer would half agree and then ask the REST of the class if they agreed....... Almost ALL agreed with the rediculous answers because they DID NOT WANT to be singled out as daft or stupid for disagreeing with an opinion that SEEMED to be acepted by everone ELSE! ..... The WOKE! Dogma has USED this experiment as their way of Influencing the MINDS of us ALL ..... Sad Times :-(
My form tutor did this test on my class over 40 years ago. In our case, he tapped the table a number of times and then reported a deliberately wrong number.
I am proud to say I was one of only two in the class who refused point blank to go along with the concensus because I KNEW I was right. He then explained the test to us all as part - oddly enough - of his RE class. In his case, he was explaining how brave the early Christians were to defy the concensus of the time.
I am an atheist now but I have never forgoten that lesson in pyschology. I have always asserted my right to think for myself. It has not always done me any favours but at least I remain true to myself.
“The mob believes everything it is told, provided only that it be repeated over and over. Provided too that its passions, hatreds, fears are catered to. Nor need one try to stay within the limits of plausibility: on the contrary, the grosser, the bigger, the cruder the lie, the more readily is it believed and followed. Nor is there any need to avoid contradictions: the mob never notices; needless to pretend to correlate what is said to some with what is said to others: each person or group believes only what he is told, not what anyone else is told; needless to strive for coherence: the mob has no memory; needless to pretend to any truth: the mob is radically incapable of perceiving it: the mob can never comprehend that its own interests are what is at stake.”
― Alexandre Koyré, Réflexions sur le mensonge
As Orwell said in 1984, 2+2=5.
This approach works particularly well with children.
Yeah its the Asche conformity test.
Joanna seems rather kind and caring. I watched a video of her dated a few years back as she held a talk on the absurdities. Anyway, wokeness is an American invention that is simply historical identitarian vengeance encoded in 1964 Civil Rights Legislation that has effectively become America's 2nd Constitution. You can learn about it in Christopher Caldwell's The Age of Entitlement. Politics is not downstream from culture. Culture is downstream from power. Culture is a top down phenomenon and Joanna and the rest of the older generation have been told a story since they were little that bottom up revolts were what made a difference. Unfortunately, that simply is not the case in history and it never was. But it does tell a good story that makes people feel like they can make a difference. The reality is that a small group of minorities in any institution who can organize and seize power can impose their will on a disorganized minority. The reason? These people just want it more than the majority. While regular people have jobs, don't want to risk, just want to grill, sip tea and enjoy family time, the elites spend their time thinking about how they will centralize further power to ensure they maintain a buffer from any challengers to their status. So unless normal people who are against this nonsense can get counter elites to combat this, it will be with you for the forseeable future. Oh and for the parents who don't know what to do, it is a difficult position to be in.. However, you have to ask yourself a really important question. Are you willing to sacrifice the innocence of your children to these monsters? That's the tough question you need to ask yourself. And yes they are monsters. Anyone who has the mentality to think of a scheme that targets the innocence of children is a monster. And now those monsters are in positions of authority.
i strongly suspect that this woman is a lunatic who cannot expalin why not being racist threatens democracy
Mao did a less sophisticated version of this for his second revolution.
doh917
I think you are absolutely correct in your argument as to how power ,followed by social change, can be altered by those who are currently a minority.
Think of what happened post WW1 Russia and 1970's Ireland.
In both cases minority activities eventually changed things.
Lurking in the backround of Europe is 'is lam'' with
dedicated activists and an increasing but passive population.
In the UK it could said we have a compliant uselessly tolerant political class.
I believe the interviewee is naive in thinking votes can save the day.
There is nothing that the UK did in the past (not always good) that has NOT been part of the world wide historical/political development of the last 2000 plus years.
@@divvy1400yam600 Would you consider America's case fundamentally different given Trump's presidency and the evident turn against the left?
International finance is funding so much of the Woke agenda now. BLM was funded by Bank of America and PayPal.
My wife and I homeschooled. It was a wonderful experience. It has the added advantage of allowing the parent to revisit basic topics, at least enough to teach it to your child.
l homeschooled
(my adult son blames it for not being able to be "on message" automatically! Craves convention) 😳
His kids are at a top school which is full woke but peaceful. they will move on to high schools with gangs and racially based friendship circles, where they will be a minority and be travelling alone on public transport. Then he will have to deal with what l had to deal with when they were small children, in the inner city, and why he didn't go to school, gangs and groomers and violence and community self imposed apartheid.
My daughter has fully individuated and continues to be an autodidact. and has a high level of social skills, and us very open to new ideas.and is compassionate, and navigates a woke but actually ignorant workplace with quite a degree of skill.😉
He chose to go to Uni, my daughter chose not, he was shocked into the status quo, (same thing happened to my fully schooled siblings a generation earlier, sometimes the shame attack comes from the power crazed tutors initially then the students uphold the decree thru fear conditioning)
(College is Cult like, l went as a mature student, one of the most unsettling experiences of my life, it was a creative arts course ... that had zero tolerance for innovation and creativity! Treated the general staff like tools.)
My takeaway? College in some way had the biggest impact.
The adult child's personality and how their spouse and peers react to them having been home schooled, can reframe everything, as homeschooling is default seen as neo Nazi!
ln reality it ran the gamut from tepee dwelling hippies and pagans to formal home schools complete with bells and RE.
Imagine being a teacher who has defended a mob against 1 person. Imagine that! Does it get much lower than that? If they had any humanity they’d do what needs to be done.
And for the mob, the cowardly bullies. You are nothing, you are a waste of space on the planet. To be a cowardly bully is akin to being a nonce; it’s that low on the humanity scale.
The pendulum always, always swings back.
To steal a quote. A message to the Woke. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us
The Education system has gone utterly mad. You can call it woke if you wish, and it is, but it is better understood as utter madness, but that is teachers of the present day for you.
This is one of the most clearly stated discussions on the topic. I wish everyone would listen to this woman.
Don't forget the contamination of advertising agencies...
My definition of woke is cultural revolution.
Start sacking the woke, university chancellors and professors, civil servants, teachers.
Perfect idea but it means we need rid of the Tories who are determined to defend them against us.
Kids are already abandoning going to college in droves.
A good start would be to simply dissolve the bottom fifty institutions from the university league table. We have no need of the graduates they're producing and those people would be far better off doing something else. After that, I would suggest a year or two's moratorium while we take stock and decide what needs doing next.
@@warmasterhorus And replace them with who? Labour who sewed the seeds of this madness? The Tories are the last hope against 'Woke', they just need to get Maggie's balls
@@warmasterhorus Labour too then they turned a blind eye as well. Ffs learn some facts. Politicians are all the ffffing same.
Excellent interview. I could listen to her common sense all day. How refreshing it is to watch/ listen to something and not want to throw a brick at the tv/tablet. The damage being done to children in the education system in particular drives hell into me !
Thank you Peter and the team for all your hard work in bringing us some sanity in a world that has gone mad it seems.
Joanna's work is always on the button and full of usable stats. She puts me in mind of Heather Mac Donald in the US
The people that should be protecting and/or guiding culture comes from the top echelons of government so we can pretty much place the blame squarely on their shoulders. They should be doing something here starting with mandating a semblance of National Pride and National Identity first everything else second.
Unfortunately Globalisation destroyed the nation state democracy. The government is completely captured by international finance and the open borders Globalisation project.
The Tories exist to stop us fighting back against this stuff. We need to see them squarely as the enemy and defeat them totally.
@@warmasterhorus How do you propose we do this? Please don't say vote Labour! My view is to dilute the powers of the top parties by voting for far smaller parties.
@@danielschauffer8216 yep, what you said. I'll vote for nearly anyone to the right of the Tories. Nobody to their left.
@@danielschauffer8216 What did @Horus say, as their comment has disappeared like so many others in this comment section?
Around 27:30... she struggles to give herself a political label (or identity) because the definition of political labels changes. That is why one needs to define yourself by answering key questions.
1. small government or large government(ie. To what extent do you want the government interfering with the right of individual and/or family)?
2. Nation (ie. borders and soverignty) or globalist ...recent David Starkey talk asks the question "are we all the same or are we different?" Which achieves the same point. 3. Are we responsible for our own actions or victims of society? This sets the style of legislation and punitive arrangements for society...
I am sure that there are other questions which map out your political personality better than any political badge does...
Joanna, thank you for your book. I will buy your book and I can’t wait to read it.
I don’t see how we are fighting back against wokeness and despite my pessimism, there is always hope. No matter how small it may be.
Sadly, wokism has taken over the discipline system in schools as well. Most of us teachers just want to teach but disruptive behaviors have absolutely skyrocketed as our discipline protocols have become woke-er and wimpier.
Imagine being pushed into doing something you don't like in work, it's almost like... work? Honestly, the entitlement is maddening.
I agree that "wokery" requires an identitarian world view, an oppressor and oppressed hierarchical structure within those identities, and the idea that any inequality experienced by individuals must be explained by that hierarchical structure and oppression...it assumes that we are all the same and no genetic variables can explain a spectrum of outcomes.
Wokery requires categorising and measuring identities. This would be the first place to start. Stop asking people their gender, religion, race and sexuality on all job and government forms. Make it illegal to do that.
I got bad news for you if you think it was the woke who created race categories on applications lol. White wingers did that, literally your group.
Exterminate the Woke
We had to complete a survey at work to categorise ourselves as particular Identities, black, black and white, gay, non binary, Pakistani, Caribbean etc. At the end of the survey it started that we can only get funding if we have enough people who identify with these groups. You can be certain that if the workplace was majority black, no one would care and no surveys would ever take place.
There's nothing to prevent you from lying in a survey. If the authorities require X proportion of some type of person, then you can always give them that type of person.
Great post . thank you . i hope its not over
Joanna is a great guest l am glad to see return.
Some of the most rational discussion I've heard in the last year. Thank you, and even across the pond, I am compelled to contribute so you can keep doing this.
Thanks for writing this Joanna! Gonna buy it this week!
Woke is the aftermath of feminism.
My biggest concern is the brain washing of kids.
Thats why my kids are out of mainstream education and attend community schools. Set up by business and parents. Basically fighting back against this insanity. And boy is it working.
These children are far more resilient and able to survive in harsh environments.
They have been trained in many skills and may be the blue print for the future.
Fierce fighters no questions asked.
The woke can drop dead.
HR depts drive this together with 'values' of company needing to be signed up to by staff regardless of their ability to do the job.
Because we let it we reap what we sow
The fight is not over.
Excellent interview with Joanna. Such clarity, focus and acumen. Thank you so much.
A genuine question… When woke values undermine the idea of promotion by merit in the areas of science, engineering and medicine, will we see a reverse? We can see that “go woke, go broke” undermines business. Will there be a equivalent in the areas of where human progress really matter (e.g. technology and medicine). For example, I do not want to have heart surgery by someone who has achieved their position though anything other than talent and merit.
Wokism is a not very sophisticated philosophy created by Marxist to destroy western culture. A simple version was used in Maos second revolution.
I fear that we are heading towards a world in which reason and science cease to exist.
As the Donald says 'Go WOKE, Go BROKE'.....
I prefer not to use the term "woke". I prefer to call it all what it is, in practice: a post-modernist distortion of Marxist theories, and bringing in the inherent solopsistic dishonesty of post modernism which, in short, is essentially a denial of factual, evidential and even scientific reality where it comes into conflict with their ideas. This is especially the case if denying all the achievements of the enlightenment and modernism, is the goal. Because post-modernism seeks to use dishonest, deceptive language and word salad, as well as psychological techniques (as opposed to evidence, reason and argument) to sneek its zeitgeist into the prevailing thinking. An example of Marxist theory being distorted is Critical Theory, which - like Critical Theory - features oppressors and the oppressed, based on the bourgoisie / prolitariat (elites/ working classes, basically). CRT redefines the oppressor as white men, and the oppressed as ethnic and identity minorities assembled in a spectrum of victimhood depending on intersectionality characteristics (skin tone, sexual identity, able/ disable bodied, and so on). One thing is for sure: it is largely the left > left of centre who adhere the most to these ideas, which include a desire to systematically erase/ hide/ vilify our history - which contains information and learning in an evolutionary timeline - which helps us understand how to got to where we are today. And we have puritanically thinking people (which strikes me as being highly narcissistic) who appear to genuinely believe that they have the most morally correct opinions/ views ever devised. Therefore, anything and everything else must be quashed! It is an appalling, arrogant, narcissistic, naive and deluded way to think
I think that you have put that very clearly. I have been trying to understand post modernism and it is quite confusing.
Woke is the term encapsulating what you've just described. The term woke also describes very well people who want to give themselves a good conscience by thinking the right thing, by virtue signalling, siding with and patronising those who they perceive as the underdog.
Wholly agree.
@@mike_skinner it is deliberately that way, for good reasons. Because the core ideas of post modernism unravel when scrutinised. Instead, they prefer to distract and insult, using strawman arguments and ad hominem attacks. Best way to deal with post modernism is by focusing like a laser on the issue, and exposing the illogical/ unreasonable arguments used by those who adhere to the ideas
@@mrror8933 agreed. Some people do it for what they genuinely believe are good reasons. However, like all bad ideas, they are being used like "useful idiots". 20 years ago or so, the very idea of filling children's heads in school with confusion over their identity, or, teaching them to hate themselves due to their skin tone, would probably have been seen as a form of mental child abuse. I think it should be, today
Thank you for all that you do. Love n blessings from Sydney Austraia.
This lady waters down her words for fear of offending someone and wishing to appear polite. Yet, it's the teachers (who may lose their livelihoods and face very real consequences) that she calls cowards. You're being tough on the wrong people.
Where is the support? The people who write the letters to schools, LAs and newspapers? Where are the freedom of speech supporting newspapers? Where are the politicians who represent us? Where are the ONGs, the Lawyers, the Professors... an entire support group - a network - is necessary to make politics.
What a lovely, sensible and honest woman.
You hit the nail on the head regarding the elitism of woke ideologies.
I've just tried to comment on the G€rvais comedy and it was deleted five times even though I kept rewriting it. The youtube algo is determined to stop this comment. How scary is that?
Keep fighting the madness my friend 💪
There are unspeakable solutions. I hope logic wins though.
Sometimes they overlap.
@@evolassunglasses4673 yes, they should, I mean do.
It is not difficult. We live in a world where truth is denied and ignored, or punished for being exposed, and then wonder why there is no 'logic' in our societies..
Here, put it to the test for yourselves..
spaceandmotion
Go on now, don't be a coward, say it out loud.
@@catross3713 😊
Good interview. Somewhat frightening but good.
Very interesting discussion. I just ordered a copy of her book.
Being woke about woke is the new woke.
Very good interview. Spot on. Just ordered the book.
Once again another outstanding guest. Surely there is still hope for the UK while we still have people like this......
A really inciteful comment was about school homework; the parents are teaching stuff, while the school takes on the parenting role. As for home schooling, there is currently a Bill planning to put the Local Authority in loco parentis, not the parents! We stand against this political engineering.
My grandson is doing his 11+ this week . The school , opposite which we live , openly admitted that they hadn`t covered enough of the curriculm for the children to even have a fair chance , so we have spent the last year teaching our lad all the things that have been missed that he might need to know to have a decent shot at reaching his potential . And he IS a bright boy. The school is working towards SATS , which is nothing to do with where a child then goes for year 7. The level of education being dished out is utterly appalling and sub- standard. It`s disgusting , and I say that as a fairly recently retired Primary schnool teacher. I did a lot of private tutoring in recent years and it`s terrible that parents are so worried that they have to pay for tutoring outside school hours to fill in the gaps missed. Private tutors , usually retired teachers or otherwise , are considered to be the "enemy" by the school system. Well this has been coming for at least 20 years and if they were that worried they should have done something about it. The National Curricuilum was the beginning of the end for Education because its Social Engineering and Politicising at a high level . What "Education Education Education" really meant was "Indoctrination Indoctrination Indoctrination". Divide families and undermine parenting. Which is exactly what`s happened but no one noticed until recently.
The epitome of woke is the policeman in a rainbow helmet running about in a clown car in a safe area...wondering if we should get him and dump him in tower hamlets to make his point
It's curious that whilst she (rightly) points out that left have "redefined words" she uses "gender" instead of "sex" and uses the phrase "gender identity" as if it has any real meaning.
Thank you, an interesting and heartening interview with a guest speaking common sense. Great!
@The New Culture Forum: Thank you for what you are doing!
I heard the use of WOKE and WORRIED in the same thought. How prophetic in SO many Ways.
Great interview . I was thinking we need to change from saying woke to simply saying 'communist ' , or communism as that's exactly what it is .
I call them groomers. They don't like that one so I use it even more! It's what they are and you are right about the commies!
It's not communism, it's a thing of its own: woke.
But the Tories clearly support it too, hence its flourishing under their rule.
You know very little about communism if you think woke is communism. While it can be defined in many different ways, communism is typically seen as an economic principle. One definition by Marx is "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need. Another by Kropotkin is "distribution without calculation". And if you go down the route where the Soviet union was a communist society (though no bolshevik ever thought their country to be communist), do you think Stalin was woke, or Molotov or Khrushchev or Brezhnev?
It does us no good to use words in a crude way that is only meant to be pejorative. Woke is a particular phenomenon, and if anything, it is a current in American liberalism. As an old-fashioned socialist, I see much more liberalism in woke than I do socialism. In any case, it has to be stopped.
@@ostrogoth We all need to work together against it and especially against the people who give it its power
I recently retired from teaching, early because I got Covid badly. I don’t have my pension for a year!!But listening to this I am so glad I am out of it. I used to sit in big while school training sessions and I’ve got be honest they were more like indoctrination. They used to look at me and try to provoke me to say what I thought because I am opinionated. And I understand on that school they now have a whole transgender class! My head of dept was gay and honestly I didn’t have a problem, but strident activist gay. I honestly felt bullied being conservative, and I voted for Brexit and I was hated for that. So glad I can breathe freely now.
Political Correctness, Tolerance and Compromising hasn't helped either.
If you have a 'free' healthcare system then a junk food tax makes perfect sense.
The first time someone told me they were Woke, they said it like they were struggling, so I said or rather asked them if they were saying that because they wanted me to put them to sleep so to speak.
Superb talk.
I listened to Joanna Williams on the Spiked podcast where she stated her belief that Marxism was 'progressive' and claimed the connection between Woke ideology and Marxism/ Neo-Marxism was 'tendentious'. I don't think you can fully explain how Woke rose to domination if you are in denial about it's origins.
The long march home....Don't apologize. Never surrender. Counter-attack. Always!
So BADLY out of touch to suggest " home schooling " : working class DON'T have the MEANS to do that
she's good! Thanks Joanna!
Contempt and authoritarianism sums it up nicely👍
Joanna has a good understanding of the Woke culture which must be reversed to prevent damage to the children.
How can this be achieved.
Very interesting indeed.
I wonder if Joanna is missing a group of woke-promoters in her breakdown of the various groups.
There are older people with a history of liberal left or centre left politics whose political reference point might by 1997 and the Blair vs. Major election. They still see the choice as between 'progressives' on the one hand and 'the Tories' on the other. They haven't really gone over to woke philosophically, but they regard woke as primarily a new, modernised, linguistic formulation for the same progressive ideas that they supported perhaps 20 years ago. This is why they experience suprisingly little cognitive dissonance caused by the fact that some elements of woke require a 180 degree turn from what they believed ten or even five years ago.
They vehemently reject any opposition to woke, and leap to its defence, because, in their frame of reference, opposition to woke can only come from 'The Tories' and the inheritors of John Major's view of Britain. It's much easier for them to pretend not to notice anything about woke that they dislike than to align themselves with people who they have been opposing all their political lives. Perhaps there's an element of living in fear of 'becoming right-wing'.
To be sure, there is some overlap between this group and Joanna's group of cowards. However the group I'm talking about are mainly as they are due to failure to pay attention and the sunk cost of years of political activity.
Peter, l always share NCF videos, but it would be handy if you would enable the clip button option, as there are always some excellent standalone clips that would play well on the likes of Instagram or Twitter, like for instance 31:06 to 33:55 there were probably better bits but you'll know what l mean.
Mind control like Germany/Italy in the nineteen thirties or Russia/China for the last century. It has been a nightmare raising kids in this
woke educational system.
The distinction between violent and non-violent strife is a foundation of civilization that is being thrown out.
While I agree with what is said here, it really doesn't explain how woke won or who is behind it.
Big tech, BBC, mainstream media, Schools, Colleges and Universities….all part of the rise of the far left.
@@mkkravist11 I agree but how this has really come about is not really explained in the video. I often seem to find this in these new culture forum videos, they deal with subjects I am interested in and generally say things I agree with but I find them unsatisfying because they seldom seem to get to the real heart of the subjects they claim to address. Still, that they are addressing these things at all is good and may they continue to explore these issues.
What a wonderful lady.
The comedian who bragged on Question Time that he was woke was Stewart Lee.
Spot on
Not available here in the States yet, but I got a copy on Amazon UK.
Peter, please, please, please stop asking rhetorical questions! You give us these wonderful opportunities to hear from different people, but I want to hear their answer, not that they agree with your statement.
Maybe a way for Parents to regain some control back over the specific "morality/Religious Instruction" classes, is to provide children with an old fashion note to not participate in these "RI" lessons, as it is against the families Religious/Moral beliefs.
Wokeism and the Woke have so many religious nature, that it should be treated as such.
As a child I was raised in some strange Religion and although I'm not a believer today, as a child I wielded a note from my parents that empowered me to exclude myself from any lesson or aspect of that conflicted with my families Morale/Religious beliefs
Oh this is a very good summary, there are some very astute observations made here, particularly around the way that the powerful and the guilty piggy-back on claims of victim hood to further advance their wealth and influence.
love her.
It is not difficult. We live in a world where truth is denied and ignored, or punished for being exposed.. Here, put it to the test for yourselves..
spaceandmotion
It's' like a tidal wave. It comes in and may withdraw but all the destruction can then be left afterwards
Peter, Rafe, Emma & Elves another great interview. Peter can you have a chat with David Kurten. I've missed the Peter & David double act in the London Assembly.
What a super-sensible lady. The voice of the rational silent majority...which sadly stays as a silent majority........
Completely agree with everything apart from the bit about Jamie Oliver. Say what you like about his intentions, but one fact remains: the government isn't doing enough to tackle childhood obesity and the health of our children is hugely important, especially in a cost of living crisis. At least put discounts on food with some nutrition to get some healthy grub into our kids. I don't think JO is saying don't put discounts on food (people are acting like he's advocating for people to starve), isn't he saying don't put discounts on junk food? The man has a point. I'm not keen on a nanny state but if we are to have one anyway, let's at least 'nudge' the consumer in the right direction by putting discounts on semi-nutritious foods. It's seen to be elitist to judge what food people buy to feed their children, yet it's totally fine to discount junk food and expect that "the poor" desperately need their precious junk food to get by. To me, that assumption is insulting to people who may very well want to make a few new/better choices and just need some money off to make a few changes. Some children's diets are shocking, so let's forget the class war and do what's best for the kids. Does anyone else see my point?
Great interview with a great lady. Become a member, are you a registered charity (can members support through payroll giving). Keep up the great work.
When all you've known is privellege, equality feels like a threat.
When you receive preferred status based on your race, ethnicity, or sexual preferences equality doesn't exist.
Referendum on Immigration, now! We didn't vote for Mass Immigration.
Right on, but they will never dare have one.
The institutions were captured long ago.
Indeed, it was well under way when I was at university in the early seventies.
we need to embrace Christianty to provide meaning, but the COE needs their leadership clearing out.
The CoE seems to have been corrupted at every level by this stuff , not just the leadership
we need to get rid of God and all religious insanity....so we can crawl out of the dark ages....
religion is nothing but GUILT and FEAR and CONTROL....