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Nikon D200 vs Nikon D700 - CCD vs CMOS - A Quick Test

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  • Опубліковано 17 сер 2024
  • As per request I'm doing a test looking at the files of the Nikon D200 and D700 to see how the two cameras compares to each other. At the same time it's a comparison between a CCD and CMOS sensor, something I've planned to do for some time. The results actually surprised me, not really what I expected to see!
    Chapters:
    0:00 Intro
    0:33 Scene 1 - Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8
    2:08 Scene 2 - Nikkor 35-105mm AF f/3.5-4.5
    3:30 Scene 3 - Tokina 12-24mm f/4
    5:28 Super Quick Lens Review
    5:50 Results / ”Forest Analysis”
    8:50 Rant about CCD vs CMOS

КОМЕНТАРІ • 26

  • @mikaelrphoto
    @mikaelrphoto  Місяць тому

    More photos from both cameras on my Flickr: flickr.com/mikaelrphoto/
    Raw files can be found on my Patreon: www.patreon.com/posts/108052640
    About the methodology: Cameras set to RAW + JPEG (standard) -> Same scene shot with same settings -> D700 RAW-file edited to my liking -> Settings copied to the D200 RAW-file -> Export as JPEG -> (Video compiled in Davinci Resolve in 4K)
    The reason for this methodology is to test the cameras in a way I would actually use them, by taking photos in the field and edit them how I would normally.
    (There was a difference in the D200 output from the D700, which I had to compensate with 2/3 exposure increase on the D200 files. I’m not sure why this happened, but it didn’t cause any problem for editing the files. The RAW files are very flexible from both cameras.)

    • @Astraperfectum
      @Astraperfectum 8 днів тому

      What software do you use for editing?
      Default color rendering from D700 and D200 is quite different, but your RAW editor seem to ignore this.

  • @michaelfehrenbach8437
    @michaelfehrenbach8437 15 днів тому +8

    Thank you very much for your video. In my opinion, there was not much difference between the Nikon D200 and the D700 to be expected. You may have taken the wrong camera, I mean the D700. The D700 was positioned strictly against Canon's very well known 5D Mark1, which is characterized by extremely pop colors. This is due to a joint venture between Canon and Kodak. As a result of the 5DMark1, Nikon then launched the D700 with extremely poppy colors, i.e. the D700 is very poppy for a CMOS sensor in terms of colors and not representative of an ordinary CMOS sensor. You should have taken the Nikon D200 versus the Nikon D300 (CMOS sensor) for the test. Then the advantage of the D200 would have been much greater. I have all the old Nikons like Nikon D200, D300, D3, D3s and D700 and D800 and see clear advantages in the colors of the D200 compared to D300 and D800.

    • @mikaelrphoto
      @mikaelrphoto  5 днів тому

      Interesting information, thanks! I would like to try the D300 as well, I'll surely do a comparison between the two if I get one.

  • @robertdavis1255
    @robertdavis1255 8 днів тому +1

    Thanks for sharing your experience with interesting comments...I use a Tokina 12-24mm lens on my D7100 & am happy with the results... cheers from Australia 🦘🦘😊

  • @matskay1971
    @matskay1971 Місяць тому +7

    Hi Mikael , Nice comparison. If you have the 35mm 1.8 DX try it on D700 in FX mode (DX crop OFF ) you will be surprised with results . You get perfectly usable images from f2 to f4 with slight vignetting. I have both the cameras, the D700 was bought last week and the D200 about a year back. While i agree the D700 is a better camera overall. But i like the mechanical shutter sound and feel of the D200. Also i find the D700 back LCD screen on the bluish side. Both are excellent cameras to use if you know their limitations and weaknesses. I don't think i will ever part with these two cameras.

    • @mikaelrphoto
      @mikaelrphoto  Місяць тому

      Hi, thanks! I used to have that lens when I was shooting with a D7000, I didn't know it could be used on FX!

    •  7 днів тому +1

      I concur...your description between the two is as I would describe 100%. I've got the D200, D700 and the D750.....my favorite hands down is the D200 ...It's easy and predictable....great feel, great sound, files and colors outstanding ...manual lenses are cheap and work beautifully ....low light right up to max 1600 ISO are beautiful as long as you know how to work the available light ....put it in a tripod and it's really outstanding ....fantastic colors. ..the grain is similar to film from 1935 up through 1959....think national geographic..... The built in flash is a game changer for night shooting bands and stuff....the camera has everything u need to produce stunning unusual photos ....be a photographer again get a d200 ...love it

  • @sushi_donut
    @sushi_donut Місяць тому +4

    My theory about the current CCD hype is how cameras of that era interpreted colors for SOOC JPGs, which is an instant starting point for that 'film-like' vibe. Personally, I don't think it looks like film at all, but it's still very pleasing for persona work. 😊Also new tech is so sterile and expensive, it's exciting to think that there are multiple system out there for everyone, at a fraction of what the cost of what it was then & now.

    • @mikaelrphoto
      @mikaelrphoto  Місяць тому +1

      I was quite confused when I first saw comparisons between film and early digital - I started shooting film, around 2009 or so, because I couldn't get a "film-look" from cameras that now get praised for having a "film-look". I guess my definition of a "film-look" was quite different from the popular definition today. Well, anyway, I agree that new cameras can give very sterile results, these old cameras can give very interesting results!

    • @ccderik
      @ccderik Місяць тому +2

      I believe "film-like" has become an over-used cliché phrase (I use it myself, haha) and rather means "unique" or just old-school in any way. I remember using my first digital, the Canon Powershot A80, which felt oh so digital. 😅 Agree, it's more about re-discovering fun and still cabable cameras. While less perfect, they have more personality than new cameras.

  • @sushi_donut
    @sushi_donut Місяць тому +2

    This video is comparing the exact the two cameras and lens combo (DX on D700) I'm looking for!! 😭📸💪 Thank you, Mikael!!

    • @mikaelrphoto
      @mikaelrphoto  Місяць тому +1

      Happy to be of help! Thanks for watching!

  • @MyArmHurtsBad
    @MyArmHurtsBad Місяць тому +1

    i literally lover this stuff! keep it up!!!

  • @ccderik
    @ccderik Місяць тому +1

    Interesting comparison. I think the D700 has a bit of a smoother transition between light and dark parts (e.g. 3:05, 4:50) and it obviously knocks it out of the park when it comes to ISO. Would be cool to see a similar comparison but with compacts. 😁

    • @mikaelrphoto
      @mikaelrphoto  Місяць тому

      That's true yeah, the D700 has very nice transitions! I'm actually doing a comparison with compacts at the moment, but a bit different concept 😀

  • @federicozanello3756
    @federicozanello3756 13 днів тому +1

    Hallo Mikael, thank you very much for this interesting comparison. Which one would you suggest for “Black + White” photography? Does the ccd sensor really take advantage on cmos for B&W purpose? Thank you

    • @mikaelrphoto
      @mikaelrphoto  11 днів тому +1

      Hello, thanks for watching! I haven't seen any big difference other than noise levels. CCD sensors tend to have much more noise at high ISO which can give the impression of film grain.

    • @federicozanello3756
      @federicozanello3756 11 днів тому

      @@mikaelrphotoThank you very much Mikael. I appreciate your answer. Please go on with such kind of videos and comparisons

  • @derekcoe9633
    @derekcoe9633 Місяць тому +2

    Love my D200 but I think the D700 has the edge.

    • @mikaelrphoto
      @mikaelrphoto  Місяць тому +1

      Yeah the low light performance is quite impressive on the D700, but otherwise they are surprisingly similar!

  • @Gielon
    @Gielon Місяць тому +2

    You have question mark for d700 sensor - it was made by... Panasonic - that's what few sources say

    • @mikaelrphoto
      @mikaelrphoto  Місяць тому

      The sources I found said it was made by Nikon, but I wasn't entirely sure, since I've seen different information.

    • @kermitage
      @kermitage 4 дні тому +1

      @@mikaelrphoto It was made by Panasonic, 100%. OFC Nikon colour science was added while in camera processing. The D3 has the same sensor albeit with a bit different colour science. These are the only 2 Nikon cameras with Panasonic sensors.