I was afraid of growing roses for such a long time but, over the last couple of years I’ve learned so much from you and now love them and growing them. Thank you so much!!!
Always glad to see one of your videos pop up. I've never had much luck with what some call "body bag" roses, but with the advice in your video I may try them again. Hey, they're cheap, so I don't have much to lose !
Thanks. Be sure to also check out my Facebook group for Q&A. It's called Paul Zimmerman Roses Gardening. Lots of people over there who can give you all kinds of help.
Thank you! I have a mostly bag roses from "big box store" and they are doing pretty well... my better ones are definitely bare root roses that I buy now because I earn a little more money. Thanks for the tips on bag roses!
Hi there, Paul! Fabulous to see you back doing what you do so well! I really appreciate the wonderful content you have put out for us over the years and I have learned SO MUCH from the expert advice you have shared so generously. May I ask a question, please? I heard you mention disbudding - what is the purpose of it and when should it be done in the growing cycle of a rose? I've started a small flower farm in country Victoria, Australia, and I'm especially keen to understand how to get long stems on my roses to sell for cut flowers. Thank you in advance for your thoughts on this and your time in replying. Best wishes to you and your family. Sarah xo
Disbudding is really only done when the plant is young so it can focus energy into growing as opposed to flowering. Generally you longer stems when you prune harder. This would be the method as people who exhibit roses use.
I purchased 2 bag roses from a box store today 1/3 the price of all potted plants I have shopped for. I am a new gardener and these are my first roses. Glad I found your video. This gives me hope and an idea of what to watch for. I see you put yours in pots. I’m in Texas do you advise pots first and let them establish themselves?
That's not a climate I know about. But join my Facebook Group Paul Zimmerman Roses Gardening. We have members who live in your area who grow roses. They will be a big help.
For the price you can't go wrong with bag roses. I cut them back to no more than 3 canes and keep them in light shade. These are non-patent roses that most of the time aren't available except as bag roses so if that's your only option for that particular rose then buy and enjoy.
100% of all the plants I buy, I buy in late winter, which is February here is the Southern CA High Desert, are "bag"plants, also called bare root. I just bought a set of 10 bare root fruit trees this way. Every one but one multi-variety pear is doing great. Not sure if that pear is alive or dead, but has some green in the stems. Several bare root, one multivariety apple and one peach, produced fruit that are growing this spring in their first year. I bought two dozen bare root roses this way. It is the only way I typically buy them but exceptions are the potted roses for $25 at Costco that ooh, looked to nice to pass up. Intense yellow-orange for one variety. Pretty much have to be desperate, something died in a key, visible yard spot, to buy a potted rose. It is just burning money. I am trying my third year to get a rose to clone and root from a cutting. If that ever works instead of the typical takes all summer to die slowly, then I won't buy any roses again.
Thank you for the video. I started out with bag roses and still end up buying some when something interesting comes up. But every year I would get at least one that wasn’t true to name.
I got two years ago (8), have moved since then. About 2 years ago I visited the old house, one rose had died, the other one was blooming very strong scent. My guess is that they were neglected most of the time after we moved out, the house wasn't occupied for a loooooooong time. I was shocked one was not only alive, but blooming.
I just purchased 6 bag roses from Walmart that were on sale, only $5 each. Hoping to keep them alive in pots till I move and can plant them in ground. Last year I bought a bag chicago peace rose from Wally World and it produces the most beautiful roses I've ever seen. Such large flowers, and fragrant! It's definitely worth it buying these.
Thank you for the helpful info- I just bought my first bag rose ever- "Proud Land" from Walmart for 10 bucks..I've never been drawn to the bag roses but for some reason I was called to this one.
I think I saw on a prior video you’re located in SC. Me too! I accidentally cut back a main came from about 25 ft to maybe 4 feet. Did I kill my vibe ride? We bought this house and I have no idea what to do with the roses. Learning a lot from you!
So bag roses (if in good health) will eventually get to the same size as regular bare root roses? I spend a bit more money in the very front of my garden but if I can save some for the side garden I wouldn’t be opposed to trying out bag roses at all.
Ultimately at the end of the day a rose variety will all come to the same size no matter which way you buy it. The only exception are roses on fortuniana rootstock which is a specialty rootstock. They will get bigger than normal.
I've had no luck for bag roses until last year since I've learned tricks to help them survive. This year I'm hoping they take off because last year they were over taken by pests and just didn't perform well. Most ground planted survived the winter, potted test run seemed like some died, some survived. Unfortunately I'm still waiting to see new growth to verify if they're dead dead or still dormant in the pots vs ground. I lost 4 of my purples/blues though. Ugh, I need some rose plugs but how to buy/find without nursery license. I'm not ashamed to say I garden on a budget (or try to). I think rose plugs should be available more easily for budget gardeners.
Plugs are sold to the trade in trays of generally 52 of one variety. I don't think it would make economic sense for them to sell them to the public as individual plants.
@@Paulzimmermanroses yeah unless they do a tray of 32 roses but that would only work for the general public if we could divide it by variety (X amount of each variety) I've seen trays of 32-70+ plugs.
@@Paulzimmermanroses I'll be doing pots for my purple/blues and other varieties that didn't survive in ground for the 1st year. My area has tough soil to grow in.
I would really, really like it if you updated your Video repertoire as you are my go-to Authority for roses, but some of your original vids are a little scratchy, so would be fab if you shared your knowledge with a new generation of rose gardeners! Thank you; keep safe up there. 🙏🐾🦘👍🌹
Many of those were done over 10 years ago before HD cameras etc. So yes, there are showing their age! I did a bunch of new ones on similar subjects with Jackson & Perkins that are much newer. If you haven't seen them go to my channel and you will see a playlist there.
Great video. thanks. I have seen bag roses and often they are well known roses - i.e. last one I saw thrown in a pile in a big box store was a mister lincoln! Was dying to buy him but living in Tampa Florida I am leery of nematodes so end up buying roses on fortunatia stock.
I just scored at that “cheap” place hahaha. $4 per bag rose on clearance. I bought 10 but wish I could have bought them all!! I was shocked most of the root systems looked beautiful! Even with new fleshy white roots!
$4 jealous. I went in to bitch that their $12.83 bare root roses looked almost dead, and got a discount to $7. Since this is now late spring and otherwise roses are potted at $35, I did the rational thing and bought 15 because, you know, deal.
@@donaldkasper8346 for sure! I love buying things that are marked down! Lowes is the best for that! I got the $4 roses at Walmart but normally I don’t score there. I check Lowe’s every few days because I always find goodies!
I assume you are growing their pots? If you are then during winter bring them and the pots into an unheated garage or shed once they have gone dormant. Keep the soil a bit damp but don't water a lot.
About 3/4 of my roses are of these cheap ones. I didn’t know they were all different. But man they are amamzinf. I lost one to RRD and another one never game me flowers. It’s about to come out.
Sir In India we planted roses in cinder... They grow very well.. Why not try in usa. You could find in youtube in India famous cinder medium for growing roses
@@Paulzimmermanroses Thank you. Think if you do it... Youd really be mastering it there. Therey are grown in cinder. Its very good for the roses. Roses grows excellent, green and new leaves everytime and their growth is just amazing.
Bag roses is called bare root. Your left row are later in the spring potted roses, not bare root. Yeah of course they are more developed. They are two months older of spring growth. The difference is that the potted roses generally run twice the cost. Now over at Walmart for the last several weeks here in early summer, in the discount rack of the gardening area, are a bunch of really bad shape, drying out roses. So I went in to customer service and complained and they gave me bar codes for $7 each. How much is a potted rose today? Just $35. Well, I can take the risk of a few dying at that dumpster fire price. Soaked them two days. By day three, getting that musty rot smell and spent all evening putting them in the ground. How do I put such sick roses with just a bit of green stem remaining, in the ground? Well, I keep them in their bags of course, and cut 3 long slits for drainage. Why? We have loam soil that sucks all the water out, so the bags will keep them extra wet until the roots move out and the plastic rots and breaks up. Temps now getting into the mid 90s so they aren't going to be soaking in water in the bags. They still have to be soaked every day with a hose. About half show itsy bitsy buds and leaves just starting to come out after a week. Bought in three stages couple days apart. Man last batch look bad, but we shall see, I see budding on one after just a few days in the soil already. This is my first experiment keeping roses in the bags, so we shall see, I think that was a good strategic choice.
@@Paulzimmermanroses By third day they smell of, what is that rot smell. Anyway, didn't have the time to immediately plant and they were dried out in really bad shape. But our loam soil wicks out all the water and since they were water starved for two months at Wally World, I have experimented with putting them in the ground in their bags with 3 long slits to allow the water to slowly seep out. Temps getting to 100 this week, so they are in full sun, and in response I water them every day. This is the Lancaster, CA High Desert. Humidity here averages 25% so everything dries out fast. I will know soon enough if this worked. Healthy dry root plants always have the bags removed. I made them like pots with drain holes. I water the plant in the bag and around the bag. Standing water lasts about say 30 seconds.
@@donaldkasper8346 Never tried putting them in the ground with long slits to drain the water. They might work. At some point you'll need to try a slip the bag out because it won't break down.
@@Paulzimmermanroses While environmental groups pretend plastic never breaks down, two things. First, that is a total lie. Second, they haven't seen what happens to plastic in the Southern California High Desert. Be that as it may, as long as it survives, it helps the plant retain water, so it is doing its job.
@@Paulzimmermanroses yes, here we get a small piece and not in a good condition. The one and only common nursery the whole country is ... PUSHPANJALINURSERY. ONE thing Paul, why dont you try out Cinder medium roses they damm good. Where roses are grown in cinder medium.... Those we get from industrial waste. You can look up videos... Cinder roses.
I was afraid of growing roses for such a long time but, over the last couple of years I’ve learned so much from you and now love them and growing them. Thank you so much!!!
You are so welcome
Your content is so helpful and entertaining. Glad to see you back.
I appreciate that!
Glad to have you back!
Thanks!
Always glad to see one of your videos pop up. I've never had much luck with what some call "body bag" roses, but with the advice in your video I may try them again. Hey, they're cheap, so I don't have much to lose !
Glad it was helpful!
New to gardening and just discovered your channel. Thank you for all the wonderful tips!!! 🌹 🥀 ❤️
Thanks. Be sure to also check out my Facebook group for Q&A. It's called Paul Zimmerman Roses Gardening. Lots of people over there who can give you all kinds of help.
Thank you! I have a mostly bag roses from "big box store" and they are doing pretty well... my better ones are definitely bare root roses that I buy now because I earn a little more money. Thanks for the tips on bag roses!
Glad to hear they are doing well. It's a good way to get started.
Yes sir I'm glad to see you're back I watched a lot of your videos now and I've learned a lot from you.
Bag roses are bare root roses.
The first thing I did was to check when did your video drop. Have learnt a lot from your channel. Please do post videos when you get time.
Thank you and I plan to start making more. Just took a break for a while.
Hi there, Paul! Fabulous to see you back doing what you do so well! I really appreciate the wonderful content you have put out for us over the years and I have learned SO MUCH from the expert advice you have shared so generously. May I ask a question, please? I heard you mention disbudding - what is the purpose of it and when should it be done in the growing cycle of a rose? I've started a small flower farm in country Victoria, Australia, and I'm especially keen to understand how to get long stems on my roses to sell for cut flowers. Thank you in advance for your thoughts on this and your time in replying. Best wishes to you and your family. Sarah xo
Disbudding is really only done when the plant is young so it can focus energy into growing as opposed to flowering. Generally you longer stems when you prune harder. This would be the method as people who exhibit roses use.
@@Paulzimmermanroses Thank you, Paul, appreciate the advice.
I purchased 2 bag roses from a box store today 1/3 the price of all potted plants I have shopped for. I am a new gardener and these are my first roses. Glad I found your video. This gives me hope and an idea of what to watch for. I see you put yours in pots. I’m in Texas do you advise pots first and let them establish themselves?
Yes, with these kinds of roses I advise pots first no matter where you live.
I have been waiting for your videos. I am glad you posted a new one, very good. I have learned a lot from your videos. Thank you.
Glad you like them!
So glad to see new video pop up on your chanel😊
Do you have any recommended rose variety for Bali climate?
That's not a climate I know about. But join my Facebook Group Paul Zimmerman Roses Gardening. We have members who live in your area who grow roses. They will be a big help.
For the price you can't go wrong with bag roses. I cut them back to no more than 3 canes and keep them in light shade. These are non-patent roses that most of the time aren't available except as bag roses so if that's your only option for that particular rose then buy and enjoy.
Totally agree.
@@Paulzimmermanroses what have you got to lose? If you don't plant them they're gonna be trashed anyway!
@@claygreen4723 totally agree
100% of all the plants I buy, I buy in late winter, which is February here is the Southern CA High Desert, are "bag"plants, also called bare root. I just bought a set of 10 bare root fruit trees this way. Every one but one multi-variety pear is doing great. Not sure if that pear is alive or dead, but has some green in the stems. Several bare root, one multivariety apple and one peach, produced fruit that are growing this spring in their first year. I bought two dozen bare root roses this way. It is the only way I typically buy them but exceptions are the potted roses for $25 at Costco that ooh, looked to nice to pass up. Intense yellow-orange for one variety. Pretty much have to be desperate, something died in a key, visible yard spot, to buy a potted rose. It is just burning money. I am trying my third year to get a rose to clone and root from a cutting. If that ever works instead of the typical takes all summer to die slowly, then I won't buy any roses again.
There are some bargains in these kinds of roses.
Thank you for the video. I started out with bag roses and still end up buying some when something interesting comes up. But every year I would get at least one that wasn’t true to name.
It can be chancy but seems to be getting better.
I got two years ago (8), have moved since then. About 2 years ago I visited the old house, one rose had died, the other one was blooming very strong scent. My guess is that they were neglected most of the time after we moved out, the house wasn't occupied for a loooooooong time. I was shocked one was not only alive, but blooming.
Once they get established they are as good as any rose.
I just purchased 6 bag roses from Walmart that were on sale, only $5 each. Hoping to keep them alive in pots till I move and can plant them in ground. Last year I bought a bag chicago peace rose from Wally World and it produces the most beautiful roses I've ever seen. Such large flowers, and fragrant! It's definitely worth it buying these.
Agreed. If you do as you are doing and take a little extra care getting them going they will do fine.
Thank you for the helpful info- I just bought my first bag rose ever- "Proud Land" from Walmart for 10 bucks..I've never been drawn to the bag roses but for some reason I was called to this one.
Glad it was helpful!
I think I saw on a prior video you’re located in SC. Me too! I accidentally cut back a main came from about 25 ft to maybe 4 feet. Did I kill my vibe ride? We bought this house and I have no idea what to do with the roses. Learning a lot from you!
The rose won't die. It will just put some energy into growing again. It should recover fine.
I love buying bagged roses. They grow so fast in my 5 climate. I have David Austin. They are more slow.
Agreed, They work well.
So bag roses (if in good health) will eventually get to the same size as regular bare root roses? I spend a bit more money in the very front of my garden but if I can save some for the side garden I wouldn’t be opposed to trying out bag roses at all.
Ultimately at the end of the day a rose variety will all come to the same size no matter which way you buy it. The only exception are roses on fortuniana rootstock which is a specialty rootstock. They will get bigger than normal.
I've had no luck for bag roses until last year since I've learned tricks to help them survive. This year I'm hoping they take off because last year they were over taken by pests and just didn't perform well. Most ground planted survived the winter, potted test run seemed like some died, some survived. Unfortunately I'm still waiting to see new growth to verify if they're dead dead or still dormant in the pots vs ground. I lost 4 of my purples/blues though. Ugh, I need some rose plugs but how to buy/find without nursery license. I'm not ashamed to say I garden on a budget (or try to). I think rose plugs should be available more easily for budget gardeners.
Plugs are sold to the trade in trays of generally 52 of one variety. I don't think it would make economic sense for them to sell them to the public as individual plants.
@@Paulzimmermanroses yeah unless they do a tray of 32 roses but that would only work for the general public if we could divide it by variety (X amount of each variety) I've seen trays of 32-70+ plugs.
@@Paulzimmermanroses I'll be doing pots for my purple/blues and other varieties that didn't survive in ground for the 1st year. My area has tough soil to grow in.
I would really, really like it if you updated your Video repertoire as you are my go-to Authority for roses, but some of your original vids are a little scratchy, so would be fab if you shared your knowledge with a new generation of rose gardeners! Thank you; keep safe up there. 🙏🐾🦘👍🌹
Many of those were done over 10 years ago before HD cameras etc. So yes, there are showing their age! I did a bunch of new ones on similar subjects with Jackson & Perkins that are much newer. If you haven't seen them go to my channel and you will see a playlist there.
Thanks Paul!
You're welcome!
Great video. thanks. I have seen bag roses and often they are well known roses - i.e. last one I saw thrown in a pile in a big box store was a mister lincoln! Was dying to buy him but living in Tampa Florida I am leery of nematodes so end up buying roses on fortunatia stock.
In your case roses on fortuniana is a good idea.
I just scored at that “cheap” place hahaha. $4 per bag rose on clearance. I bought 10 but wish I could have bought them all!! I was shocked most of the root systems looked beautiful! Even with new fleshy white roots!
Nice!!
$4 jealous. I went in to bitch that their $12.83 bare root roses looked almost dead, and got a discount to $7. Since this is now late spring and otherwise roses are potted at $35, I did the rational thing and bought 15 because, you know, deal.
@@donaldkasper8346 for sure! I love buying things that are marked down! Lowes is the best for that! I got the $4 roses at Walmart but normally I don’t score there. I check Lowe’s every few days because I always find goodies!
He’s honestly I got the give the man some credit I was getting ready to hear the negative bashing and boasting to buy only from Jackson and Perkins
Just telling it like it is.
Thank you.
You're welcome!
Stay healthy Paul
Thanks!
How big should my roses be, before I keep them outside over winter in zone 5a?
I assume you are growing their pots? If you are then during winter bring them and the pots into an unheated garage or shed once they have gone dormant. Keep the soil a bit damp but don't water a lot.
@@Paulzimmermanroses so wait a couple of seasons before I transplant them permanently in the ground?
Yay his is back!!!!!!!
Thanks!
About 3/4 of my roses are of these cheap ones. I didn’t know they were all different. But man they are amamzinf. I lost one to RRD and another one never game me flowers. It’s about to come out.
They do well if you help them along in the beginning.
Sir In India we planted roses in cinder... They grow very well.. Why not try in usa. You could find in youtube in India famous cinder medium for growing roses
I've seen photos of that. I'll check more into it.
@@Paulzimmermanroses Thank you. Think if you do it... Youd really be mastering it there. Therey are grown in cinder. Its very good for the roses. Roses grows excellent, green and new leaves everytime and their growth is just amazing.
Bag roses is called bare root. Your left row are later in the spring potted roses, not bare root. Yeah of course they are more developed. They are two months older of spring growth. The difference is that the potted roses generally run twice the cost. Now over at Walmart for the last several weeks here in early summer, in the discount rack of the gardening area, are a bunch of really bad shape, drying out roses. So I went in to customer service and complained and they gave me bar codes for $7 each. How much is a potted rose today? Just $35. Well, I can take the risk of a few dying at that dumpster fire price. Soaked them two days. By day three, getting that musty rot smell and spent all evening putting them in the ground. How do I put such sick roses with just a bit of green stem remaining, in the ground? Well, I keep them in their bags of course, and cut 3 long slits for drainage. Why? We have loam soil that sucks all the water out, so the bags will keep them extra wet until the roots move out and the plastic rots and breaks up. Temps now getting into the mid 90s so they aren't going to be soaking in water in the bags. They still have to be soaked every day with a hose. About half show itsy bitsy buds and leaves just starting to come out after a week. Bought in three stages couple days apart. Man last batch look bad, but we shall see, I see budding on one after just a few days in the soil already. This is my first experiment keeping roses in the bags, so we shall see, I think that was a good strategic choice.
Don't leave them soaking in water too long. They'll "drown". 2-3 days tops.
@@Paulzimmermanroses By third day they smell of, what is that rot smell. Anyway, didn't have the time to immediately plant and they were dried out in really bad shape. But our loam soil wicks out all the water and since they were water starved for two months at Wally World, I have experimented with putting them in the ground in their bags with 3 long slits to allow the water to slowly seep out. Temps getting to 100 this week, so they are in full sun, and in response I water them every day. This is the Lancaster, CA High Desert. Humidity here averages 25% so everything dries out fast. I will know soon enough if this worked. Healthy dry root plants always have the bags removed. I made them like pots with drain holes. I water the plant in the bag and around the bag. Standing water lasts about say 30 seconds.
@@donaldkasper8346 Never tried putting them in the ground with long slits to drain the water. They might work. At some point you'll need to try a slip the bag out because it won't break down.
@@Paulzimmermanroses While environmental groups pretend plastic never breaks down, two things. First, that is a total lie. Second, they haven't seen what happens to plastic in the Southern California High Desert. Be that as it may, as long as it survives, it helps the plant retain water, so it is doing its job.
Im looking for a variety of rose that grows as good as Belindas dream Roses. Know of any?
Do a search for Earth Kind Roses. These are roses that have been tested to be easy to grow without much care than you would give to most any plant.
👍🏼
Thanks!
My rose is having a lot of dieback should I trim it?
Yes, Always trim off anything dead.
OK SO TELL ME HOW TALL AND HOW WIDE DO THEY GET
That depends on the specific variety. The information should be on the label.
Damm... I hope like this are available in our country India
It's a good way to purchase them.
@@Paulzimmermanroses yes, here we get a small piece and not in a good condition. The one and only common nursery the whole country is ... PUSHPANJALINURSERY.
ONE thing Paul, why dont you try out Cinder medium roses they damm good. Where roses are grown in cinder medium.... Those we get from industrial waste. You can look up videos... Cinder roses.
aha...father of Juno!!