Planting A Rose In Less Sunlight
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- While we all love to grow roses in our gardens, many gardeners don't have a spot that gets full sun. This video talks about, and gives some tips, on growing roses in less sunny areas.
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I've been a successful rose grower all my life. You can plant many roses in shady areas and sometimes they will survive a few years but will have a reduced number or no blooms at all. However, even a couple hours of sunlight (full, not dappled) will be enough for most roses to survive and bloom. They might not be the biggest or showiest, but they will still be beautiful. It's a myth that roses need sunlight all day but it's also true they do their best when they consistently get four or more hours of it daily.
In our northwest facing 2 story home with one garden in front, I achieve excellent results with my hybrid teas in morning shade at one end of the front garden. Many of them get an hour or two early morning before the sun gets up behind our Bald Cypress and then the house for a few more hours until the sun comes around the house and they get full afternoon sun the rest of the day In fact, they are more proliferous than the ones at the other end of the garden that receive full sun sunrise to sunset. How is is you have such bad luck without morning sun?
i have a rose under a tree that is perfectly happy! when it was planted the tree was small. don't remenber how old the rose is now. i don't dare move it!
Glad to hear it's doing well. If it's happy just leave it where it is.
I planted the Golden Showers on my east facing wall (my balcony faces north) it seems to be happy. Blooms last longer too and it’s growing. I’m glad you confirmed that they like morning sun.
I always say if a rose is happy then you did the right thing!
@likeimsosure I would say 6-8 weeks should be plenty enough to give you an indication if the plant likes that spot. However, if the plant starts to go downhill sooner then that don't be afraid to take it our early.
Paul
What considered morning sun. My roses get full sun from 10:00am to 3pm.
Generally surprise to at least noon. That being said 10-3 should be okay.
Another great video. I learn so much from you.
I got confident through trying different things. From there I learned what works and what doesn't. Just remember roses are just a plant and behave like all other plants.
Hi! I'm an amateur to any kind of gardening. I live in Seattle,WA. I have planted a few rose plants this summer, namely Alec's Red, Fragrant Cloud, Voodoo, Good as Gold, Bonica and Zephirine Drouhin in my front yard which gets afternoon Sun from after 1.30 on wards till sundown. All of them are own root plants and have been planted in organic soil +compost+bone dust meal. They are healthy plants and though very small in size have grown good foliage and also a few buds. But I'm a bit worried after seeing this video if I should leave them where they are or should I plant them in my backyard which gets sunlight from morning to almost 4 pm in the summer. Your suggestion will be very valuable to me. Thank you.
@@rawnee83 How did it go? Did you end up moving them?
Absolutely. Just break up the root ball a bit when you transfer them to the ground.
I belong to tropical climate, my roses droop leaves in afternoon but it becomes good in evening
I moved the plant under a tree and gets only little bit sun.
Will my rose thrive there?
My place is having afternoon temperature 36 degrees Celsius
With those temps try having it in a place that gets morning sun and then afternoon shade. It should do well.
I recently bought William Baffin an apparently hardy(zone2 Canada), vigorous monstrous shrub rose that is well suited to grow as a climber. This is my first year planting roses. I have been waltzing around with the potted rose for a week now not knowing where to put it...convinced I had made an impulse buy & chosen the wrong rose. Not anymore thanks to your video(s)! This video & the one on pegging have eased my concerns about light conditions & overall size issues. Thank You.
What is full shade
One side of my 2 storey house has full sun from morning till evening.
Is that full sun?
One side is hid from the sun from morning till evening. Is that full shade or low light or indirect sunlight?
I have carport in the middle of my yard, it casts shade all day, I can still see and read under it when I lie down there out of sun. Is that full shade indirect sunlight or?
I have a windowless fibro shed, I can still clearly see my way round in the daytime. Is that fullshade low light or indirect sunlight?
Some of this is going to depend on where you live. Let me know and I can give you a better answer.
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@@jack9463 The side with full sun from morning to evening is great for roses. The one with shade all day isn't good. In your climate you can also get away with morning sun and afternoon shade.
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In my climate I can grow sunflowers all year, nearly 5 feet on occasions.
12+ 11+ hrs everyday thereabouts.
In Sydney 8 9 foot every time branches everywhere 6ft across by early summer to early winter late autumn
Show stoppers many times entered into Competitions by bypassers.
Branches here are spindly, the flowers undeveloped.
I grew many varieties successfully.
But I'm talking secifically 'autumn beauty'
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Long hot days in Sydney, is it, the longer the day, the bigger they grow, they grow better in England than here, or Russia?
Or am I doing something wrong?
I respect your point but I know from experience this works and roses can thrive in these conditions.
Always wondered why my bouquet climbing rose stopped blooming. I have a bougainvillea growing almost over it. I will move it as soom as it gets cooler, we live in deep s. Texas. Thanks for info!
Light needs are only one half of the larger problem here... Planting a small, shallow rooted shrub under large shade trees in a futile effort, due to the fact that trees take up and respirate hundreds of gallons of water a day, drying out the soil very quickly. You'll be wasting a lot of water keeping that rose alive... Not to mention the Ph problems that are encountered!
I planted a rose last night and its in shock! I put root stimulator, liek always but had rinsed some of the tight clay off its roots when I took it out of it bucket it came in. What can I do for it? I have never seen any of my roses act this way..2 to 3 inches of new growth are drooped over! :'( It was over cast and only 86 today!I live in Kansas so it wasn''t bad, but mild today and the rose is used to being in my back yard. Thx for your help!
You should try living in the desert. Roses do fine here without morning sun. Mine all have 6 to 12" of growth and buds covering them already. They actually still get scalded with just a few hours during the hottest part of the summer. Although I would not be surprised if they would do the best with morning sun only. I love all your videos btw!!
Glad you like the videos and I have no desire to live in the desert! But I admire those who do!
that's a great tip. . .I need some advice from you on deadheading a new hybrid tea that's a bit smaller than the plant in this video. I've seen your videos, and am concerned if the outward facing bud eye practice applies to young hybrid tea (Tiffany) . . .do I stay with the outward eye? or just cut the spent bloom to the first foliage.... thanks a bunch.
If it's still small I would just to go first foliage. Feel fee to post some photos on my Facebook Page along with the question. facebook.com/paul.zimmerman.roses/
Paul Zimmerman Roses will do! I appreciate the help. stay awesome
How to grad goog garden in balcanoy with low sunlight
Roses won't grow in low sunlight condition. You might want to go for plants that tolerate shade.
Just ordered my first Hybrid Musk Rose, "Danae". Can't wait to get it planted to see how it does for me, zone 6b. Great instructional videos!
Lovely rose. Hybrid Musks are some of the easiest roses to take care of.
I just planted 3 on an East fence. No morning sun. Zero. And one is covered in the afternoon by a large branch.
That's a lot of shade. Keep an eye on them but you might have to move them.
afternoon is the only spot I have. you don't mention what to do if that's the case. and I don't like polyantha roses. I prefer lots of petals and more of an english garden rose.
They won't be happy with only afternoon sun.
Thank you 👍🏼
Excellant ! Thank you. Question ~ Want to plant 5 small Knock outs in a very large planter and then come fall transfer to the soil - ground. Can I enjoy them in the planter a few months before transfering them to the garden permanently ?
Zone 5 here.
I have done this. Matter of when you plant (preferably not the hottest part of the season)
In your experience, will floribundas and grandifloras do well in shade? I have a spot on the side of my apartment that's dappled in the morning and full sun for about 1.5 hours. and that's it.
Derek Everette c
Derek Everette hi
Try David Austin roses
There is one variety that flourish on dappled shade
Called The Generous Gardener
Fadi Hajjaj thanks! That's the second time I've heard about the Generous Gardener in the last couple of weeks. It looks like a beautiful rose. I hear it has a nice fragrance too. How long have you grown yours?
Derek Everette I ordered one for me this summer. I saw it at my friend house growing in a shady area ( dappled shade mainly ). The fragrance is amazing and sweet can travel in air ! Not overwhelming but nice
This rose is a vigorous grower and best as a climber
You can always check this website for roses seeing pictures and reviews
Helpmefind.com
ohhhh good ole daysss😘🥰
Likely it was rinsing off the soil that did it. Cut off all the new growth and in fact pull all the leaves. This will reduce the pressure on what roots are left to feed the plant. It should recover just fine.
How about using grow lights as a supplement to mitigate the problem?
that might work. Even if you turned them on for 4 hours or so.
Thanks! Now I know why the rose I planted twenty years ago doesn't do as well as it might, it is on a north- east facing wall. We do get roses though.(It flowers above the wall and we use steps so we can prune)
Perhaps this might se the oldest video i am seeing on any topic. This is mostly discussed topic..My question is do you still belive this information holds good in 2021 also. As over the years you have gained Experience so opinion may change. Also is this relevant in indian context too???
My opinions have not changed much. In fact with some areas of the world getting hotter, putting roses in afternoon shade is actually a good idea.
i cant under stand even in with plant growers the truth is hard to find roses never grow well in full sun
Well done video. Loved the cat too. Solving the sunlight part was reassuring, but still worried about the terrible clay soil and drainage problem in rural NC. Being budget conscious I’ll just try starting with two in various locations and see how they do - like you say. Thanks 😊
Glad you enjoyed it. I live in the upstate of SC with clay soil. Amend the heck out of it with compost of some kind.
Is 9 am - 1 pm sun considered full sun condition?
Yes. Roses should do well with that.
Only 86." Generally: Transplant in cool weather, for better results. 60 degrees is really nice. Like spring and fall, not summer. Wait till next year for flowers, you probably will not get too many. Your roses should look better now, if not, you will have to wait to next year. Too hot! Start cutting the dead growth off slowly. Clean dead leaves and keep moist. Do not over water.
I have rose that was planted in full shade by previous house owner. They can still bloom once a year. So I believe half day in the afternoon will be perfectly fine.
That's great
I recently bought a miniature rose but I only gets 2 hours of sun light in the morning from 8-10 will it be fine ?
Roses like full sun so I'm afraid that won't be enough. Sun from 8-1 would probably work but 2 hours isn't really enough.
Thank you for this great explanation. Feel much better planting my beautiful hybrid tea roses .
Glad it was helpful!
I have been looking for this info for long time somehow you tune suggested me this. I am very happy that I got the information needed. Thanks so much sir.🙏
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for sharing!! Can you tell the name of this rose..
That was so long ago I have no idea. Sorry.
@@Paulzimmermanroses 😃 that's ok.. thank you!!!
So disappointed i didn't see this video when I bought my roses last year! I have one hybrid tea rose that only gets morning sun part of the year. When my neighbor's leaves bloom closer to the summer it will get less sun. I'll see how it goes this summer and may move it in the fall! Thanks!!!!
The same mistake i made! my don juan is doing poorly
I want to plant old english rose. But it will get morning sun only and North CA. It's oK?
I very much like your information about the Roses,thank you. Km.
English roses do well in 3-5 hours of sun
Try the apricot , yellow or dark red
Wow, best advice ever. Thank you sir.
Very welcome
Yeah! Another rose lesson. Made my day.
very good idea.Thank you very much.
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Thanks for the common sense approach!
You're welcome!
@RenegadeTimes yes, you can.
I’m going to use this method! Thanks.
You're welcome!
Great info, thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
what are your favorite roses?
Great information, thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Good information thank you
Glad it was helpful!
god bless you more
Thank you!
Very informative thank you!!
Kizzy thank you!
Genius.
Thanks!
What if I have already planted it ?
If it's happy leave it. You do have the option of transplanting it if it's not.
@@Paulzimmermanroses its 2 months now its growing, new shoots are also coming but no blooms yet, its a climbing rose gets 3,4 hours of morning sun zone 5
I would leave it. 3-4 hours of morning sun might be enough. The fact it’s growing means it’s happy.
@@Paulzimmermanroses thanks 😊
Enlightening!
Thanks.
God has given us such beauty, but some of us don't know how to appreciate them.
You seem so confident . How can I be confident too