BATTLE of Tamai 1884 The Forgotten War in Sudan
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- The Battle of Tami was fought on the 13th March 1884 between the British and Mahdist armies in Sudan.
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This is the story of the Battle of Tamai 1884.
Just to be confusing this battle is also referred to by some other names / spellings:
The Battle of Tamaai (often seen on campaign medals)
The Battle of Tamanieh
The Battle of Tamai was fought during the Mahdist revolt against Egyptian control in Sudan.
After a botched attempt by their army to relief the garrison besieged by Osman Digna's Beja tribesmen at Tokar, the Egyptians appealed to the British for help.
Despite his reservations about getting involved in a bloody, costly and pointless war in the Sudan, Prime Minister Gladstone agreed to send an expeditionary force to the Red Sea coast of Sudan.
The force, led by General Gerald Graham VC consisted of just over 4,000 men drawn from:
1st Black Watch
3rd King's Royal Rifle Corps
1st Gordon Highlanders
2nd Royal Irish Fusiliers
1st York & Lancaster Regiment
The Royal Marines Light Infantry
10th Hussars
19th Hussars
Royal Artillery (20 guns)
Naval Brigade (with 6 Gatling & Gardiner machine guns).
Having defeated the Mahdist-supporting Beja at the battle of El Teb, General Graham advanced on Osman Digna's camp at the wells at Tamai.
In a 3 hour battle, the Beja warriors managed to break into the British square - something almost unheard of since the Napoleonic Wars - before being repulsed.
In the end British army discipline and firepower turned the tables on the Mahdists and delivered a British victory.
Nevertheless, with over 100 men killed and a further 100 injured, the battle of Tamai was the costliest engagement that the British fought during the Mahdist war.
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I always admire your tact in commending the bravery of both sides. It’s too easy too look back and simply show the bravery of the British empire’s soldiers, and dismiss the courage of the young warriors fighting for their homeland against technology they couldn’t hope to match.
Thank you.
So 'ere's ~to~ you, Fuzzy-Wuzzy, at your 'ome in the Soudan;
You're a pore benighted 'eathen but a first-class fightin' man;
An' 'ere's ~to~ you, Fuzzy-Wuzzy, with your 'ayrick 'ead of 'air --
You big black boundin' beggar -- for you broke a British square!
Rudyard Kipling
Which was Kipling's point in the poem I linked:
"We took our chanst among the Khyber 'ills,
The Boers knocked us silly at a mile,
The Burman give us Irriwaddy chills,
An' a Zulu impi dished us up in style:
But all we ever got from such as they
Was pop to what the Fuzzy made us swaller;
We 'eld our bloomin' own, the papers say,
But man for man the Fuzzy knocked us 'oller.
Then 'ere's to you, Fuzzy-Wuzzy, an' the missis and the kid;
Our orders was to break you, an' of course we went an' did.
We sloshed you with Martinis, an' it wasn't 'ardly fair;
But for all the odds agin' you, Fuzzy-Wuz, you broke the square."
Facts❤
lmao bravery
I am an American and I got into British Colonial history in the 1980s. I started collecting the Campaign medals and yeah its gotten huge. I'm up to 114 since last month. Mostly from 1815 to 1911 including El Teb-Tamaii, 3 of them. I love the history.
Glad you are enjoying. Thanks for your support.
I would assume you’d appreciate British officers swords with provenance? A piece of kit with them as they made history 😊
I have an 1822 pattern infantry officer's sword with a VR cypher. Glad you have an interest British history.
1980s?
Wow!
Wow. What men. Mateship, faithfulness, unswerving discipline and downright bloody professionalism. Taking the firing pins from the guns then recapturing and bringing them back into action. What lads. The bloke sticking his weapon in and dragging his victim....What a bloody legend. I bet there were a few moments of kicking....Absolutely love the stories of the individuals. Thank you Chris.
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SCARED MEN USE GUNS.
Christian 🏴 🇪🇸 🇵🇹 are the true “Mark of the Beast” plague of our beautiful planet.
you're gross
I'll tell you something. I work with young adults with challenging behaviour. I made a point of showing them this video tonight while on shift. They loved it. I will be showing them all your videos over time. Thank you!
I am humbled. Thank you.
Why show young adults w/ behavior issues this bullshit. You stupid for that. This is pure evil and bullshit and if I could go back in time I’ll drop a nuke on England
This channel is a breath of fresh air in understanding and remembering our Islands history by covering off the grid moments & battles nearly lost to time and a modern world to fixated on itself to care about sacrifices and strife in the past. It's the ordinary soldier that fascinates me. From every corner of Britain they stood shoulder to shoulder unwavering. What courage and steel balls they must have had. That is why it saddens me to see Scotland wanting to break up a Union that stands strong together.
Much like the United States in 1776, it's the government that wants it.
Unlike the United States, Scotland doesn't even have the backing of almost half the people.
Thanks for taking the time to post and for your supportive comments.
Bollocks about Scots wanting tro leave the Union.The majority are back to voting.
YOUR VIDEOS ARE THE ONLY REASON WHY I LOOK FORWARD T FRIDAYS.I LOVE THEM!
Thanks so much. Have a great weekend!
@@TheHistoryChap Perhaps you could consider making a series on the Napoleonic wars.
Such a great historian and presenter. I really do like the way he doesn't sugar coat British shortcomings.
Thanks for that - a cracking good story. I saw the film "Khartoum" when it first came out, and it left a lasting impression. The Mahdist war is seldom covered.
Thanks. I also find it fascinating after watching Khartoum.
Me, too.
Your content is fantastic and shows that Britain didn't have the easy colonial progress many today claim they were usually heavily outnumbered facing enemies that didn't just have spears and shields. What's also very clear is the empire might have been run by the upper class but it was built by the working class firstly in the factories, mills and shipyards and secondly by those lads who joined the military and rose above their lot demonstrating loyalty, bravery and professionalism again and again. I wish your content could be viewed in every school in the UK because the impression kids in school are given about the British empire is that it was a dark malevolent entity continually murdering and subjugating the reality as you show is of a hesitant nation that often wasn't looking to expand or involve itself casually into the affairs of others but got dragged into situations by events or the actions of ruthless self absorbed individuals ( the Anglo Zulu war being the best example ).
Kudos to you sir for the subject matter and your unbiased presentation of it.
Andrew, thank you for your kind comments.
This man is great, informative, easy to listen to, ALL done without the idiocy of sensationalist graphics (movie clips), or breathless speech, and without copying the works of someone else who had posted the same topic earlier.
Many thanks for your support
Superbly researched, Chris. Well done
Thank you.
Another well narrated and edited video, I can't get enough of them... Thanks Again!
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
A true tale of iron discipline, will, and cold steel and sheer guts. I am running out of superlatives. Kudos Sir for producing another brilliant mini documentary. 🧐🤔👊👍🙏
Glad you enjoyed it
They don’t like the cold steel... they don’t like it up ‘em. 😅
Great video, looking forward to the next. I like that you recap all the soldiers mentioned and what happened to them after the war, nice touch
Thank you very much.
this channel is criminally underrated
Very kind of you. Thanks.
Brilliant video of very brave men fighting a long way from home, thank you.
Glad you enjoyed.
Another BRILLIANT story telling. It is a great story, but you tell it, oh so well. Thank you 😊
Many thanks for your kind words.
I'm Spanish and I love History....These stories of bravery, audacity and boldness are my favourites
Ivan, thanks for watching. I'm glad that you are enjoying my stories.
I have also enjoyed those stories about Zulu wars...Keep making more videos please? and Thanks a lot
Excellent presentation, as always. I especially appreciate how you paint the picture of what these brave soldiers must have been experiencing on the advance. Something that you don't receive from text in a book.
Thank you.
Excellent ...as always.I attended Marling Grammar school in Stroud Gloucestershire...I must check to see if Percival Marling VC had any connection to the school. Thanks again..Nick Tanner
I'm guessing that as he came from the county it probably does have.
Hi - just watched your fantastic video and really enjoyed it, especially as whilst I was doing my family tree, I found out that my great Grandfather was awarded the Egypt medal & Khedive Star 1884. He was a sergeant in the 1st Battalion Gordon Highlanders and I have his war diary, which has a fantastic description of their march to El Teb for the 2nd battle and then onto Tamai. It is facinationg reading and describes how they formed a square and how the enemy were using the previously captured Gardner guns against them. Would love to find out some more information if possible and if you could possible share any additional details. Many thanks, Graham Cameron
It's always nice to see your posts. Good stuff
Thank you. Have a great weekend
@@TheHistoryChap And you too............
Well done! I look forward to more.
More on the way :)
Great short video on the history of the British battles in the Sudan. Brave and tenacious warriors the Madi. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨
Glad you enjoyed it.
These videos are amazing , although interested in history I've never heard of half these battles and events let alone the details of the combatants and the decorations won , brilliant, thank you .
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A very interesting account. Sir Percy Marling VC was my mother’s great uncle and I have a copy of his book “Rifleman and Hussar” published in 1931, 5 years before his death. His account of the battle of Tamai corroborates what is said in this video.
Fascinating family tree. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks a great story well told. I was introduced to the words Fuzzy Wuzzy and Dervish as a child.
It brings back memories.
Thanks.
Super, The Four Feathers is a rare film that treats the Sudanese with respect, even admiration, which seems well deserved.
Looking forward to the next one!
Peter, thanks for taking the time to comment about the Four Feathers
@@TheHistoryChap I meant to praise your video as well, I'd hoped that was obvious.
Excellent and superbly delivered. Thanks from Aust.
Many thanks. Glad you enjoyed it.
Perhaps 'break the British square is not really an accurate statement of what happened at this battle. As you said, the Black Watch's forward charge created a whole in the square and the Madhists merely run into that whole. Quite a different scenario compared to breaking through a solid square which is not what happened here. Like leaving my front door open, so thieves merely walked in and took some of my stuff, compared to them breaking down the door to get in.
Thank you for taking the time to comment.
Great story telling. I remember Corporal Jones adding that the 'Fuzzy Wuzzies' didn't like it up 'em, in his stories as well. Thanks .
That was Dad's army....
Thank you.
Again I have to say "thank you" for an excellent presentation. It was concise, clear, and inspirational. This is subject matter that ought to be taught in schools, unlike some of the nonsense being forced down the throat of children today.
Thanks for taking the time to post your comment.
Thanks Chris, I had to make some undisturbed time to watch and enjoy another fantastic video. Keep bring them out, Cheers
Have a great weekend.
I was waiting for this video, thanks! Always loved Kipling's Fuzzy-wuzzy since my youth...
Glad you enjoyed it.
Wonderfully retold. As always.
Many thanks.
What a fantastic story and once again superbly told , looking forward to the next instalment 👍
Many thanks.
Very inrteresting. My great Grandfather was at the the battle while in the Black watch. I have his medals and bars.
Thanks for sharing.
Excellent documentary. Thank you.
My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it.
Brilliant channel and content. I enjoy these so much
Thanks for your support.
Looking forward to your next video
Working on it right now (well, when I'm not responding to comments :)
Really great info here, appreciate you
Thanks for your support.
Love your videos mate 👌🏼🔥
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This guy is good, interesting & extremely watchable, but Chris, please stop apologising for using the term fuzzy wuzzies nobody is going to sue you sir. Brilliantly told with an engaging manner. Keep 'em coming!’
Gary, thanks for your kind comments. I am very aware that some people use Fuzzy Wuzzy not to describe Beja tribesmen but all black people, which is wrong.
@@TheHistoryChap fair one Chris, never heard it used other that way before, only as an outdated way of describing the enemy in the 1880’s … I’ve just finished listening to ‘No Road to Khartoum ‘ by Nigel Seed, General Gordon is described as using a Webley revolver, I’d thought maybe an Enfield in 476 cal or an Adams Mk2 in 450 cal… any thoughts?
@@TheHistoryChap I think that you're correct to explain it as you do.
Good stuff as ever,Thank You.
Glad you enjoyed it
Looks like they were very lucky on that day and right at the end you said about another square being broken looking forward to the next video thanks for your time
Abu Klea - the other battle in which the square was broken - will be my next video, early next week.
@@TheHistoryChap thank you I'll be watching it
Excellent Episode 👍
Thanks
Lessons learned: technology always matter plus professionalism! Thank you for your nice history videos!
Glad you enjoyed.
What a story, brilliant
Keep them coming 👍
Glad you enjoyed. More coming your way :)
I bet you are a hoot at a party 🤣
I recently watched Khartoum the film, very interesting. Charlton Heston made a perfect Chinese Gordon and Ralph Richardson was a spot on Gladstone, with Laurence Olivier playing a great Mahdi. I first saw this film as a young teenager, and honestly I did not recognise Laurence Olivier, the part was played that well.
Another fantastic battle story!
I have a couple of questions: was there any particular British unit that was considered the best of the best; the best Rifleman, the best disciplined?
Concerning the Gatling and Gardner guns, we’re they also in Caliber 577/.450? Thank you again for your time that you put into making these great videos for us to view.
Thanks for your support.
I'm not sure which regiment was considered the best.
There were shooting competitions but they would not equate directly to ability in battle.
Hopefully someone else out there has the answer.
Another fine video sir 👌.
Very kind of you, thanks.
Another wonderful video, I had never heard of this battle. Any more coming?
Oh yes, another one from this war early next week.
Brilliant Video of a Close Run Affair!!!
Glad you enjoyed.
Fantastic video!
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.
Thankyou. Good story
Thanks for watching my video
Ripping yarn as always chap, thank you.
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
Very good depiction of the battle!
Thanks.
Jolly good story, Old Chap...bang on. I am a bit confused though...I thought these blighters were called Fuzzy Wuzzies. Well, never mind...thoroughly enjoyed your analysis of the battle and the even handedness of it all. Cheers.
Brian, thanks for posting your kind comment.
@@TheHistoryChap I hope I didn't cross any "lines" with my humor. The real take away message is I really appreciate the in-depth and unbiased commentary. I grew up in an era were history, particularly where and when "Western" forces clashed with "Non-Western" forces were described using slang to delineate the non-westerners (i.e. "Fuzzy Wuzzies", "Red Skins/Indians", etc., etc.). It's refreshing to learn that tribal peoples had real names and their leaders had real names. Thank You for the education (Yes, I'm subscribed and wait for each new video).
@@brianfoley4328 Ive been wondering if someone will try to cancel dads army because of its use of the term. From what i can find online it was used as a respectful nickname. I can imagine it was well earned aswell i doubt youd forget them in a hurry if you came up against them.
Did corporal Jones in dad's army not always go on about fuzzy wuzzies
Loved that that one British officer got mad about those 2 soldiers not also getting the Victory's Cross.
Thanks for taking the time to comment.
@@TheHistoryChap Your welcome.
Victoria Cross
Named after Queen Victoria
Bravo Chris! Bravo!
Thanks.
thank you for that well presented tale of a long forgoten campaign corporal jones would be proud !!
I'm glad you think so :)
And the channel is great. My younger sons now enjoy this part of history and they get the medals equally. Incredible finding some all the way in California! A Persia 1853 to a Lt. for $200!
Thank you.
Absolute fascinated with this, I've never heard of this before, have seen the movie Four Feather though but never made the connection. Kitchener too, wow. Thrilling story!
Many thanks.
Hi Chris
Another great video
You mention at the start that this was the first time that a British square had been broken since the Napoleonic Wars; was a British square broken in that conflict?
Not exactly. A square was ordered to fallout into extended line by the Prince of Orange when it was attacked by French cavalry.
@@TheHistoryChap Indeed, von Klenke's Luneburg Battalion ridden down by cuirassiers (David Hamilton-Williams - Waterloo New perspectives, Arms and Armour Press 1993).
I am glad the officer who won the VC acknowledged the fact that the 2 Privates also deserved the VC.
Unfortunately that seems o be a common problem when it comes to awarding medals - and not just the British Armed Forces. It seems to be an even bigger problem with Naval forces.
PS I like watching your videos Chris.
When will you go back to the Boer War and the battle of Paardekraans in particular (I am South African by the way)?
Thanks for your kind words. I will add Paardekraans to my list.
I lived in South Africa from the ages of 3-10.
@@TheHistoryChap
Thanks Chris - I had a feeling you had a South African connection, I remember you mentioning it in your Rorkes Drift video.
Apologies - it was Paardeberg (Horse Mountain), the first major victory by the British Forces, resulting the capture of nearly 10% of the Boer Force. That battle basically changed the nature of the war; as it went from a conventional conflict to a guerilla war.
I always see this great full bookshelf behind you, any good historical book recommendations for Christmas?
Khartoum by Michael Asher is a very enjoyable read
If you are into modern history, go for any of the 14th army in Burma WW2, John Latimer," Burma the forgotten War", just for starters
I'd love to hear your narration of the British Expedition to Abyssinia leading to the Battle of Magdala in April 1868
It’s coming soon
Thanks so very much
My pleasure.
Very interesting thanks
My pleasure.
I always enjoy your story's of a subject I love military history
Very kind of you, thanks.
The Beja people today have been largely Arabized. They no longer wear their hair in fuzzy wuzzy fashion and have largely adopted Arab, dress, language, custom and religion. It's amazing that during the time of the Anglo-Mahdist War, the Fuzzy Wuzzies appeared exactly as they had been depicted in ancient Egyptian art that are thousands of years old. These are an ancient people who had remained largely unchanged until the modern era.
Thanks for sharing.
If I may make a small complaint, it would be helpful to have the scale shown on the maps. Thank you.
Thanks for the feedback
Excellent video 📹
The details are not seen in ordinary history books.
There are about four /five films 🎥.
Many 'four feathers ' and types.
The best one is starring, Charlton Heston and Sir Laurence Olivier.
Look forward to next video.
Thanks for sharing.
I always love a good bayoneting story. The soldier had to realize had he missed with that bayonet thrust, his head would’ve probably been lopped off.
He must have given it some force. The bayonets were just over 20 inches long!
Thanks, you brought the breaking of the British square to life, I suspect the Highlanders were too quick off the mark for the English midlanders, I had a mate like, opening bat at cricket, for ever running people out, then complaining they were too slow.
Did Gladstone actually officially order Gordon to evacuate? I suspect Gordon wanted to be martyr.
(I've been researching the 1st & 2nd Opium Wars , check out the excellent Anglo-Chinese movie, would you like to summarise this war?)
I don’t think he had as much of a deathwish as Nelson, but I certainly think that he had his own agenda before he ever got to Khartoum
Thanks Chris - I am once again educated - cheers
My pleasure.
Well done as always Chris, Would you know how many Gatling guns were involved in this battle and how effective they may have been? Having the movie Khartoum on DVD, I never tire of watching it although I realize that it is not 100% historically correct.
There were 6 machine guns - a combination of Gatlings and Gardiners.
Thank you Chris...@@TheHistoryChap
The fact the Beja warriors broke the British square says something of their fighting abilities. For a chaotic five minutes, those British soldiers, especially that Brit serving in a Scottish unit, fought ferociously. He definitely had the heart of a Scot. A rifle muzzle going into an enemy body and getting hit the head whilst lying down are rare. Having to drag an enemy corpse back to your own lines is inconvenient and probably hilarious. The gun crew locking the Gatling gun was very smart and was nice when they got to put it back into action. It is always an honor for an enemy to earn respect from the opposing side. It is interesting to know Kitchener's first administrative post was a port. One might think of it as a lame assignment.
It must have been a heck of a bayonet thrust. The bayonets were 20 inches long!
Excellent videos of English history. Out of couriosity how did they lock the guns?
Thanks for your kind words. Not sure about how you lock the guns in those days.
WOW! What interesting and exciting history.
Glad you enjoyed.
Thank you.
My pleasure
I like this channel, just subbed, my great grandfather fought the fuzzy wuzzies.
Thanks for your support.
I love the tales of the Black Watch...and also the war against the Mahdi
Thanks! Cheers
My pleasure
In the beginning, I would like to admire your professional work that is associated with portrays and detailed interactions, which is totally impressive!. one issue, if you would allow me to say the picture of (Osman Digna), is not actually his!! I would be more than happy if you would allow me to send you his true picture for your reference.
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Was always told ,probably incorrectly,that the Black Watch wore white spats with a notch cut out of the front because of the square being broken.
Interesting story. Wasn’t aware of that.
The normal point of issued spats are cut square across with BW spats, as opposed to the remainder of the Highland regiments, their spats go to a point. I think it's a regimental custom as opposed to a dishonour.Similar to the Cameronians wearing their puttees with the tie knot to the inside of the leg as opposed to the rest of the army having the tie knot on the outside of the leg.
@@crouqetoo2 I have seen the square cut spats but am sure the spats that we wore in the regular bns of the Canadian Black Watch had a notch cut in the front. However that was from 67 til 70 a long time ago indeed .I will query my comrades.
@@markfisher8206 Mark, as an instructer at the Highland Bigade depot in Aberdeen and as an Argyll posted to 1 BW, I noted that the BW spats had the full pointed nose of the spat cut square across. However I do concede that the story did relate to it being ordered as a result of the BW square being broken. As mentioned, I am an Argyll, I am also extremely proud to have served in the BW, albeit for a very short time,
Now that was a battle!! What brave men on both sides.
Thanks for taking the time to comment.
What color were thé British uniformes at thé battle of Tamai ? I read the battle of Ginnis was the last one fought with Scarlet uniforms.
Most wore khaki the Egyptians wore white.
The lowliest, malingering Private of this era was *10x* the man we are today
Absolutely incredible devotion to honour and position
_"why us?!"_
*"Because we're HERE, lad."*
🙏🏻🇬🇧
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
This would make a great movie!!
It would indeed.
The first photo is not Osman Digna, the last one while he was in Egypt as prisoner of war is his photo , when he reached the age of 82 they let him free, but he stayed in Egypt. he died in Egypt but buried in his land, Osman Digna is my great great grandfather.
My apologies. My image provider and countless sources on the internet claim it is him.
The charge of the light brigade please Chris
Hi Rod, here it is just for you...the Charge of the Light Brigade:
ua-cam.com/video/KJmTOEDguHU/v-deo.html
What can you tell me about the Cheshire Regiment in Egypt early 1880s
he was Jonathan Raymond Wright from Cazeley Suffolk born abt 1867 .
we know he was a boy soldier and was a veteran of the Sudan War, We have traced his pay slips to Egypt .
but no info on what his regiment did or what he did.?
Can’t easily help you. Have you tried the regimental museum in Chester?
@@TheHistoryChap Nahhhh I have not got a clue on how to do it.?
My great grandfather was in the 10th hussars at both El Teb and Tamai. 🐎 💂♂️
thanks for watching & for sharing your family story
@@TheHistoryChap I meant to say and thank you for explaining in much greater detail about the battles! 🙂
Do you have any books for this history because this is my Tama history so i would love to read the history thanks and let me know the name of book please
I particularly like "Khartoum" by Michael Asher.
Here's a strange thought. Was the old rhyme "Fuzzy Wuzzy was a bear" from this conflict? I don't know but it seems a strange coincidence.
Not sure about that rhyme about the bear. Certainly first used by the British (troops, press and public) after this campaign with the Beja. Then started to be used more widely and with less respect.
Excellent story
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.
Does anybody know what possessed the British commander to form a square when facing infantry? Deployed in line and armed with Martini Henrys and a machine gun, would surely have seen the Mahdi army off, with much less excitement.
Good question. Hope people provide views.
My Tama history thanks ❤
You should be very proud.
Dude had awesome hair
They did indeed.
What is the purpose of the sticks in their hair?
I think it was actually hardened animal hide:
The Black Watch can always be relied upon to stand firm.
Thanks for posting.