VINTAGE FENDER VS CUSTOM SHOP STRATOCASTER
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2019
- The age old question... Vintage or Custom Shop Relic? We give you the scoop on our all original 64 Bootleggers Flame Stratocaster and how it stacks up to one of our favorite Custom Shop Stratocasters!
O M G that ‘64 neck pickup 🤯🤤🤤🤤
“Hey Alexa, find me a buyer for my left kidney”
Yes...that pickup was frustratingly good! We were very upset to see this guitar fly away but wow that was fun while it lasted:) Thanks for watching.
Paul Caruso is have to put together more bucks than I’ve ever compiled for any purchase in my life😃
Paul Caruso ya, but that custom shop neck pickup didn’t sound like the ‘64. 🤤
😂who needs two kidneys anyway 😂😂😂
That 64' was opening up a portal to bring Hendrix back... Beautiful.
Really like these custom shop vs old-school comparisons. Mostly because you guys say it the way I say it- they're both worth it and neither is there to replace the other.
Each did it's own thing, but both sounded amazing to me.
Keep it up
Thank you and and thank you for watching! We love them both for completely different reasons as well. That vintage one makes you work for it but man she's fun. But hot darn we get excited whenever a custom shop shows up, Xmas every day here:)
The '64 is from another world !!! LES
Lesley Les Paul in 1964 Fender started using enamel wire for their pickups replacing formvar. This gave them a scooped mid, mellow tone. They switched to polysol wire in 1965 and back to enamel in 1966 and upwards. It is my favorite Strat tone and to my ear gives them that quintessential Hendrix tone.
Agreed, it really was a joy to play and we know we are super lucky to get to work in a place where we get to see and play them! Thank you so much for watching and for your thoughts!
“WHAT TONE. ! WOW
@@GCKelloch "there are eddies in the current? Well get him out." -Hitchhikers guide.
Just ordered my first custom shop can't wait for it to get here.
You’ll love it
i have original 57 strat . very old very good . i can sell too
That 1964 sounds like it has got a booster built it, what a great sounding guitar!
Love your content, always great, honest discussions between you two.
Also love how Baxter was ahead of the curve having quarantine hair well before it was a thing.
That made me (Baxter) smile. I feel very sorry for my wife...shes been stuck with this for far too long:)
Thanks a bunch for watching and be well out there!
I’ve heard some amazing Custom Shop guitars. The craftsmanship has been amazing from A to Z, but this face off goes to the 64” Stratocaster! It took me back to hearing Hendrix and even Johnny Cash, for the first time. That sound was so crystal clear, and glassy, indeed. Even though I personally prefer the larger frets. I would simply make believe it was Summer of 64’, each time I picked her up. She’s worth the trip back in time. Simply Majestic.💎💎💎
Great review, thanks for letting us hear these very expensive instruments !
Thanks a bunch Billy for watching and don't worry, we like to hear them as much as you!
Very late to this, but this is one of the best examples of what a ‘60 - ‘65 vintage Strat should sound like. It’s different class.
The 64 is just awesome... I ever wanted a guitar that sounds like this but never found one. Maybe the best Strat i ever heard!? I could kill for her....
We agree Murat. This guitar has a truly fabulous "Strat" sound and that neck pickup could breath magic. Don't kill anybody:) And thanks for watching!
The Fender Custom Shop pickups have come a long way in recent years. They’re the best new pickups I’ve heard, especially the hand wound year specific Stratocaster pickups. I own a 57 Mary Kaye CC, 59 Journeyman “Transitional” and a 62 relic.
That 250% vintage sound? I fucki* love that!! :o :)
the '64 had the edge in sound to my ears.
Thanks for commenting and yes, that girl has something special to her:)
I like the vintage one more as I know it’s vintage and it looks way cooler, but if I’m honest in a blind sound test I wouldn’t have a clue which one was vintage they both sound great
Thanks a bunch Lee! And thank you for watching and commenting. It is a tough one to hear the difference sometimes. We agree there. That neck pickup on the 64 though is something unworldly:)
100% true...
They both sound great, and you are a hell of a player!
Holy shit that 64' start SCREAMS
I didn't expect that at all from Baxter for some reason. Jeez those tones were some of THE best strat tones I've ever heard.
Beautiful guitars, incredible playing, great review...
Phil Thank you for watching! We love this part of our "job." Have a beautiful day and best to you and yours.
OMG that 64!! My Strat just slapped me looking at my expression.
Thats a nice one:)!
My '62 strat sounds like the '64. It has that chewy midrange (and no ice pick highs even with the tone knob fully open, including the bridge). Mine has the original pickups. Got it refin, player grade. The CS sounds like a great strat, but it sounds a lil bit "smaller" and more "refined". The vintage sounds like a "big" strat somewhat.
AMAZING playing and video guys!!!
Lior Thanks! Love hearing from you and appreciate the comments and feedback always! Best to you and yours.
Great tones! Great playing!
That '64 Strat sounds so damn perfect
They both sound gorgeous,
Recently picked up a 2020 CS Strat w/Handwound 64’s (GT11 Dealer Select). Has some great specs but was surprised by the mid-forward character of those pickups. Took some getting used to but now loving them.
Both sound incredible, nuff said
Super nice guitars and fantastic playing!
Thomas Beer thanks a bunch!
Recently picked up a late 90s AVRI 62 that has been played a lot. It’s amazing, better than a lot of custom shops that I’ve played. I can only imagine how a true vintage instrument that has been doing this for 30 more years must feel.
Just discovered you guys, love the channel , subscribed 👍
I own a 2015 Custom Shop Stratocaster 1969 by Gregg Fessler and a 2018 Custom Shop Stratocaster 1963 Fiesta Red. Both are awesome. Trems even stay in tune (mostly). Have owned all the boutique Strat brands, including James Tyler (once had three). The Fenders have the feel, the sound and the mojo. Makes you want to keep picking them up. The masterbuilts do have their own thing, whether that is worth an extra thousand bucks is an individual choice. Kind of like if an added accessory to a new car is worth it.
I recently got to play a real '64 L series that looked just like that one and WOW! Sounded as good as any Strat I've ever heard! It's too bad the price tag was >$20k 🙈
Baxter, revisiting this video (I'm a lefty and am fortunate to own a few Fender Custom Shop Strats and Teles) and I've only had the chance to play a vintage 65 Lefty Strat once at the Guitar Center on Sunset in Hollywood. It was only there a week before it was bought. And while I agree completely that Fender Custom Shops play and feel amazing, with rare exceptions. But the tone of those pickups in that vintage Strat...is why people play guitar. Just unreal.
I was out of the room when the playing started and I guessed right that it was the 64. The Custom Shop one is a fantastic sounding guitar no doubt but the 64 jocks it.
Lou's House of Tunes thanks a bunch for the thoughts there! She was an amazing instrument and thank you for watching!!!
@@CasinoGuitars For sure, fantastic vintage strat, I have a nice 62 reissue in the same color scheme, and it is a great guitar, so I wasn't lusting after the 64, not too much anyway! Great content so I subscribed.
No comparison, in my mind. The 64 sounds incredible.
Gotta love that relic on the CS.
@@_DeadEnd_ That over the top is what I like. They say it opens up the tone. lets the wood breath. I love the grain.
Yea man, the vintage sounded soooo much better to me, especially overdriven! IT WASSSS PERFECTTT! THAT HAPPENS TO BE A GOOD ONE! BOTH MINT! BUT THE 64 IS AMAZING!
Man, that Pink Shell Telecaster 😍😍😍😍😍
Thats a Todd Kraus Masterbuilt with Abby pickups...a sick and fabulous instrument, thanks for noticing:)
Ive owed a 64 strat for 20 yrs and enjoy growing in time with it. But to be honest my 55 tele is just as enjoyable. Rock On...
both are strats, but i'm sad to say the 64 sounds better ): that chime is unbeatable, might be the best strat i've ever heard
I'm with you on maybe the best strat I've ever heard too.
Watch this one then: ua-cam.com/video/oWHFvgGH90M/v-deo.html
Sadly its better sounding than my 60
They were right about that neck pickup. Woooow. So warm and 3D.
My vote goes to this one: ua-cam.com/video/_OuSjrHxDqI/v-deo.html
As soon as you hit the open E string on the 64 and i heard those slightly microphonic overtones i was sold thing sounds amazing
Both are amazing.
Yeh that 64!! Funny how it sounds so hendrixy 60 years on but at the time jimi wasn't playing vintage strats....cool vid lads!!
That custom shop guitar sounds great. I don't get vintage or relic guitars, ill take new every day over either of these. still, that custom shop looks and sounds very nice despite the relic work.
Same. I am in the market for a guitar of that caliber and if I go custom shop I am going NOS or closet classic.
Total Hendrix sound in that 64.
Agree completely. Had many vintage Fenders sold many years ago but I actually prefer my Custom Shop 60 Stratocaster and my American Vintage 60s Stratocaster.
As we all know, Hendrix used 64 at the time of its debut, and my favorite Robert Clay used 64 through the 1980s. And the pickup Clapton had installed on that famous blacky was a gray bobbin with enameled wire. Anyway, it must have been the legendary model.
Thanks for watching and yes oh yes...there is something magical about the 64. But that being said...Love the 61, 57, 54...oh shucks I need a larger bank account:)
OMG, that od sound sliding on that vintage strat reminds me Jimi.
You guys done good here!
I have a real ‘73 with veneer rosewood that’s been planed to 9.5 and refretted with bigger frets. Everything else except one pot and the switch are original including the case. It’s got the most unique neck shape I’ve ever played. It’s a pretty fat and took some getting used to, but now I love it. I’ve got a buddy with a maple one from the same year and it feels completely different. Having a real vintage guitar is definitely a completely different experience.
Just Fantastic !!
I have a 78 strat with a Dimarzio SD in the bridge position, a Mexican 93 with a Dimarzio SD in the bridge slot, with Floyd Rose, and a 64 Custom shop arriving soon, that I won in an auction for 368 bucks.
I have a 63 with all black bottom pickups and a 64 with all grey bottom. The 63 is pure magic in the neck and middle position. The 64 has a fantastic neck pup but the middle and bridge can be a bit thinner. I have found vintage strat pickups (or the guitar) just sound warmer and “bigger” to me than any modern repro. There are great repro pups out there and I have tried the best of the best. But they still don’t 100% have the warmth with clarity that vintage ones seem to have.
Cool comparison. I have a 1960 Time Machine CS strat (light relic Fiesta Red with vintage frets) that actually sounds closer the 64 in this video than the 63 CS. I will say that I am not disappointed by that, and no offense to the 63, it also sounds fantastic, but I prefer the glassiness of the older strat.
I think that 63s CS pickups sound a lot like late 60s than early, and the vintage sounds more like a warmer 50s. Glassy with a little more warmth.
Nice review and comparison!! Both are as different as adults and children. I love Fender strat. My main guitar is custom shop 60 reissue. If I were rich, I would get...
Thanks a bunch Bluesy! We had so much fun playing both of them. They have now flown off to their forever homes but we have very fond memories of both. Thank you for your thoughts and thank you for watching!
@@CasinoGuitars Thanks for a kind reply!! Vintage under excellent condition is a killer!! Fender strat is not all rounder, but the coolest tone made in history. Jimi Hendrix, EC, SRV, and so on. I especially love the tone of neck PU.
@@bluesysamurainao4557 Agreed 100% and thank you again for the kind words! Love these guitars and we consider ourselves very fortunate everyday to get to come in and play these beauties!
I just picked up a '64 after spending an afternoon playing a '57, '58, '59, '61, and a '65. The '64 was just bigger, fatter, juicier than anything else I played. I do not have dainty fingers and typically play jumbos, so the frets will be a fun project to get used to, but it's all worth it for that neck pickup. Lord almighty!
I traded my 58 years ago for cash and an Lseries
original???
Great video. Yes at this time I’m having some coffee with my favorite Casino! 😊 coffee and Casino! Great combination.
I want the homie with the red strat to say "i shave my armpits because it makes me aerodynamic when i fight"
Love Both!!! However, that Red CS... WOW
I luv the vintage fretboard now I know that look is Brazilian rosewood!
which amp was used for this ? amazing demos for both video lads!
That vintage is all sorts of the right sass
You know I can fix those guitar finishes and make them look new again for a fair price 😂😂
If your reliced guitar gets knocked over does that just add to it?
Wow great demo, fine hair in sound, 64 is preferred but $$$$$vs$$$$
Which amp did you guys use to play em through, it sounded great!
I just picked up a Custom Shop LE '63 Strat from Carters, and OH MY GOD this is the best guitar I have ever played. Not just best Strat, best guitar! 10/10, will save up and get another Fender Custom Shop guitar!
64 Bite is outstanding.
Very good guitar playing
The 64 sounds much warmer. The CS still sounds amazing.
My current favourite strat is an avri 62. They aren't custom shop guitars but they're still amazing guitars. It has its own mojo as.the previous owner has had it on a guitar stand and melted the nitro finish.
Boy love to play that 64 fender on my 64 bassman
Match made in heaven!
The guy holds the real vintage guitar looks like robert smith and noel gallagher had a child
Thats perhaps the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me (I'm that guy)! I love both of their bands and thank you thank you thank you:)
And thanks for watching!
@@CasinoGuitars Sir I'm the one is most thankfull for this wonderfull video. İts good to hear some nice guitars especially in this quarantina times. Used to go local guitar shop for test some old vintage guitars and one of the most spectecular guitars are old epi casinos and gretsch. I hope someday ı can watch a video about those guitars in your hand. Only guitar ı have kinda vintage 94 squier strat with 60s specs that can not handle but at least makes me feel like playing guitar you played in the video.
@@berkyerlikaya2579 Were trying to keep things up and positive during this time. Check out our video on the new taylor case...we had officially lost our minds that day and had had enough I think:)
Sincere thanks for sharing your positive energy as well!
notice that beautiful dark Brazilian fretboard!!!! 64 is amazing!!!
The original sunburst strat looks great!
Bax…. You should play more on the newer videos! I personally loved the sound of BOTH guitars and for different reasons. Now for the price point… I would have to sell 3 or so guitars to buy (afford is the WRONG word for a player like myself) the vintage instrument. It’s just wrong for me on a number of levels. Number one, being that I would feel terrified to take it out of the house to play, and more so to leave it home while on vacation. The Custom Shop…. No brainer, I have a 63’ that has both a roasted neck as well as body that sounds incredible and feels even more so than I would have ever expected.
I'm a little late to the game. But, I loved this video. It is a subject very dear to me. My first electric guitar I received back in 1983 was a 1961 Strat. Got it for $300.00. I had already been "'Tinkering" with guitar for a good 4 years at that time. I only owned a P.O.S. acoustic from J.C. Pennys and always seemed to borrow other friends guitars. Everything changed for me in my playing when I got my Strat. And Yes. I still own it. Per my daughter. It will always stay in the family. So I do not care about it's monetary value. But it is FAR from anything of allot of value as it was quite abused in the 70s. Only thing original is the body, neck, HT bridge, input jack, neck pick up and the finish. I also think the case might be. This guitar has been to Hell and back. And I wasn't real nice to it in the early 80s either. There is allot of "Baddness" about it. It is a very hacked up guitar. But I have never had a guitar that plays like this one. And I have had quite a few. As of right now I have a Gibson Les Paul (Finally but that is another story) a 65 Gibson ES330, an 86 Charvel Model 2 and an 85 Model 2B bass (That I bought new) and just got a cheapo Squire Bullet Strat to have some fun tinkering with. But my 61 has been and always will be the first one I grab. There is just something magical about it. I am for sure not someone with the means to ever buy a vintage guitar like the one in your video. Not even a modern custom shop one. So I am very grateful for this one that I have. It is one of my most prized possessions and I am so glad that my daughter holds the same feelings for it and to one day pass it onto her son. And at the age of 2. He loves to strum it. Yes I do let him at his age handle my guitars. I did with my daughter when she was young. Maybe that is apart of why she feels that way about all of them.
What were you playing through? Amp? Pedals?
I liked the vintage ‘64 with the overdrive but preferred the CS ‘63 clean.
The Custom shop sounds every bit as good. I have several Pre CBS strats and three custom shop creations which I prefer. I am a professional guitarist and dont buy into this vintage is better because it's not the case. A fantastic guitar is a fantastic guitar.
Yes the luthiers these days are phenomenal Just recently got a CS hard tail and love it and is as good as my 65
I totally agree bro, I’m also a professional and my custom shop sounds incredible and plays incredible and I didn’t have to pay 20,000+ for it but don’t get me wrong I love those vintage guitars but with touring my custom shop is just perfect 👍
I agree only if the guitar could talk the history is cool but that would mean that fender never progressed as a company and that's not true!
I’d rather have a custom shop 62 than an actual 62. A more consistency B I would be terrified every time I touch my $25,000 guitar
Yeah so you should definitely try a Les Paul and let us know
The 64'
I wish I worked for the custom shop. I know I can hang with their master builders.
The Custom Shop is great, but it just does not compare to the '64. Amazing to HEAR the difference. I wonder what it FEELS like in the room 🤩
Were there any pedals involved? What amp were you using?
I don’t mind a newer reissue that sounds good but I definitely want the dark oily rosewood .
Was waiting to Hear Buck Owens Kick in during Country Licks, Love the Original Tone and CS Look, Building a Sonic Blue 62 Reissue, using 69 Custom Shop Abby Strat SSS Pickups and added a Super Flamed Neck, although looking for a Maple Ebony Neck, and most likely going Sperzel Lockers although have a set of D'Addario Auto Trim Locking tuners in desk. My Dilemma is although leaning towards Red Tort Pickguard a Mint Green Pickguard is just as bad ass as a Red Tort. Already rebuilt a 94 MIM into Super Strat with Custom White Pearl/Red Tort HSS w/Rosewood board and a 1983 Fender Elite in Rose
64 sound awesome. which strings did (do) you set them up with? pure nickel? the bass-side of the pickups seem to be further out than the treble side...thanks
IS THAT NECK PICKUP FROM THE VINTAGE GUITAR AVAILABLE IN SALE ANYWHERE ??
Im late but that original was awsome .
Listening with my jaw on the floor .
Great video! Fender really relic this guitar (some like, some don't) and then go put a new looking *green* pick guard that looks all wrong Imo and would someone please lemon-oil that fingerboard it looks as dry as a desert especially next to that gorgeous dark fingerboard on the '64 strat. Personally I think Fender have lost it with the way they relic their guitars they used to look a lot better and more realistic years back. The '64 strat for me everytime! Thanks!!
relicing is so silly.they have these beat up looking guitars with beautiful necks.even when they relic the fret spaces of the fret board it still looks fake...but I am in two minds
Lemon oil actually dries out necks it is a cleaner NOT a conditioner!
Episode Suggestion, Best Rig 1 Guitar, 1 Amp, 3 Pedals For Yourself and For the Other. Performance Quality Rig, at least 20 Watt Amp. Set Limit of No One Item costing more then a 1/3 of total cost and $500 limit on pedals like most struggling musicians might start with. Then One I would love to see, An Acoustic Board Shoot Out, and how to include things like acoustic DI, VoceLive or Vocalist Live into such Things, as No One is doing Acoustic Pedal Boards or how to integrate D.I's and other acoustic and Vocal interfaces into the mix, or How and Where each belong in Loop or in front or back of signal etc
That's the sound.
Blind test here will be the best. A lot of psychological mind games going on as soon as we hear Vintage.
Matan Elmalem that is more true than you can imagine! Great point and thank you for sharing that!
Casino Guitars Thanks for uploading! Both of those guitars sounds amazing!
Matan Elmalem thanks for taking the time to watch! We feel so lucky every day here at “work.”...:)
Right now we’re prepping to do some vintage fender custom shop and PRS demos...it’s never a bad day in this world and it really is great to hear good feedback like yours to help us do this better!
Casino Guitars Thank You for the kind words! I’ll be following 👌🍺
hardtail strats are my favorite imagine that thing with a hardtail
Marcus Munn I like this imagination already!
I would not change a thing in that vintage Strat. Perfection....
@@hgostos hardtails resonate so much better and double stops stay in tune its preference if I was to spend that type on a vintage would be a hardtail but that's what I like
I have a '64 sunburst that I bought that sounds.....awesome. smokey bell tone and huge when cranked? I also have a CS'55 heavy relic which is fantastic, very close to Gilmour's 0001 but much more worn. The sound of the '64 is better, but the CS is slightly easier to play partly because of the frets and radius I suspect, but ultimately subjective? I bought both guitars after inheriting some money from a very dear friend who passed away and although neither were cheap I have no regrets in having both......the vibe you mention is worth the extra bucks.
I’ll also add that I have a few Am original series strats and Teles and they’re outstanding guitars as are my 57 and 58 CS Les Pauls.. But nothing I have plays, sounds or feels better than my CS 63 telecaster 2017 NAMM special edition It’s incredible and I wouldn’t trade it for the world
Use Hendrix Trick for inbetween positions on a 3 way of using a matchbook cover
Hearing is only half the experience. You have to feel how it plays. I always think that the custom shops are like really high quality new cars. They do everything perfectly. Often vintage guitars have something that’s kinda wrong but makes it an incredible player. Something soft and mushy in the sound and feel where the new guitar often feels a little sterile and too perfect.
I kinda liked the sound of the custom shop better
Because you own one...?
SAGABIJO2 nop, i wouldnt pay $5,000 plus for a custom shop ✌🏻
@@javierservigon I've owned 6 MASTERBUILT Strats ( 3 JC ) at once + a lot of CS during the years, when I played a - 64 Strat on the first time in London I sold all of the MB, bought the - 64 and never looked back again.
Now I own 3 - 64 and one - 65.
I can tell you that: do not rely too much on YT clips, there are things that are not translated very well when you listen like that and not many people know the art of recording these days, only when you play it yourself you can understand.
You can never get dynamic range, sensitivity to touch, volume, feel on the neck, the focus of each not and the way the instrument respond to what you throw at it, you also do not get the sweetness.
When you may think here that the original Strat is dull, in the room it's actually fatter, meatier, woody, dry, focused and super responsive.
Not all Vintage Strats are the best of the best but if you will play a very good one, you will understand after - 30 seconds that you have been fooled for years...
What a damn shame that that absolutely incredible Ash body of the orange one was wasted in such a manner.