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  • @archangelkiragis
    @archangelkiragis 9 місяців тому +18

    Both the "break your spells" mod and the "heal the enemy every turn" mod seem to be very undervalued for heat points imo.

  • @AlannaStarcrossed
    @AlannaStarcrossed 9 місяців тому +12

    That 10-heal modifier is brutal, it really seems like it's way too punishing compared to the other things at that point score.

  • @thelaurens1996
    @thelaurens1996 9 місяців тому +4

    NIce Try Retro!
    Crazy brutal curses!!!

  • @FluffyBuffyPuppy192
    @FluffyBuffyPuppy192 5 місяців тому

    Feels bad man... This particular playthrough shows how just the right combination of modifiers and build can also be a perfect storm in a bad way. I like that you explained which mechanics made things difficult in this situation and then highlighted what could have been good in the end. I think it's a good combination of comments on strengths and weaknesses.

  • @herotalib9556
    @herotalib9556 9 місяців тому +2

    Those were some brutal choices.

  • @nuuskye
    @nuuskye 9 місяців тому +8

    Those mutation modifiers were unreal. That must have been the literal worst roll

  • @blackartsviper77
    @blackartsviper77 9 місяців тому +4

    so at 41:21, only the damaged illusion healed - maybe the fight was actually a little bit easier because you could always have an illusion 'block the heal'? If Flame Storm didn't mess with it randomly. Regardless I don't think it would be possible with this combo of absolutely insane modifiers, that breaker one was absolutely savage too

  • @isaacwolverine
    @isaacwolverine 9 місяців тому

    That mutations were really brutal

  • @markcarbone9052
    @markcarbone9052 9 місяців тому +2

    I did a similar wound build the other day on a lower mutation. Was doable with Vindictive, my problem was that the original 3 spells MUST be kept to make it viable. Leech especially! Ty for the vid. Was fun to watch. Wp.

  • @Dachaz1234
    @Dachaz1234 9 місяців тому

    You said everything needing saying at the end there. Fully agreed.

  • @patou454
    @patou454 9 місяців тому +7

    Yo retromation, You gotta try a run with Azar and weak stacking. It's absolutely broken. Superheat: Deal 5 + 5 x weak, Kairotic Moment: inflict 8 weak on all enemies (3 charges, unrestorable), Heatstroke: Double weak on target ( I ended up not using it for many fights). I was able to turn 1 Boss 1 AND boss 2 as well as most elites.

    • @fiethsing9988
      @fiethsing9988 9 місяців тому +1

      That's a great suggestion, I was looking for a build to do the 'Kill a boss on Turn 1' unlock.

    • @JezzyHsu
      @JezzyHsu 9 місяців тому +1

      How does stacking weak kill the bosses?

    • @lunacynplays1852
      @lunacynplays1852 9 місяців тому

      Yeah not only is the weakness build super strong, it’s also super safe; one of the easiest builds to take zero damage with IMO.

    • @patou454
      @patou454 9 місяців тому +1

      @@JezzyHsuWith superheat. it deals (5 + 5 times weak on unit) damage. So early game with 5 weak, you hit for 30 (and turn off their damage) .

    • @SimpusMax
      @SimpusMax 9 місяців тому

      There's also an artifact that applies 4 damage when you apply weak. And the AoE weakness to all spell. I did 356 damage in one shot on phase 3 of the last boss when I ran it

  • @dndesperado8809
    @dndesperado8809 9 місяців тому +1

    It could be argued the "break your spells" mod is properly valued at 7 points (or at least not 12, but probably an 8 or 9) considering the "-1 charge to all spells" mod is valued at 10, since the break mod can function like a soft version of the -1 charge mod if you just leave 1 charge in each of your spells. I'd imagine that it would be best to treat it like the -1 charge mod (other than not prioritizing deplete effects), but maybe choose to break one of your spells if you got a substantial benefit or could fix it that turn. Goes without saying though that the starting build having only 2 charges in each spell, while also being scaling, made that impractical at best.

    • @Retromation
      @Retromation  9 місяців тому +3

      yes but the -1 charge to all spells is absurdly undervalued at 10 so it is moot

    • @dndesperado8809
      @dndesperado8809 9 місяців тому

      @@Retromation Fair

  • @danhein5391
    @danhein5391 9 місяців тому

    Would it be better, at 19:50, to leach -> extract the 15hp, and then finish off the 13 hp?

  • @ManlyPicnics
    @ManlyPicnics 9 місяців тому

    The spell break on depletion is absurd. It's a severe punishment for having a good build that utilises all your spell charges, which makes builds that need set-up turns infinitely worse. But it also sucks on single charge spells. That's the type of modifier that I personally would never take. I think the enemy heal for 10 isn't too bad, unless you're doing a lot of small hits.

  • @paw-paddedcalamity216
    @paw-paddedcalamity216 9 місяців тому

    What in the world was that set of mutations offered? That was horrifying, not gonna lie. Like yikes, there was no clean way to play around that one I feel.
    Diminishment+++ seemed possible to play around but the guaranteed loss potential if you run into Chaos Angel (and being unable to play 1-charge spells AT ALL) is painful. Some of those mutation point totals should be higher lol

  • @LaserStorm117
    @LaserStorm117 9 місяців тому +2

    Dang. I see the theme of today's run is suffering

    • @LaserStorm117
      @LaserStorm117 9 місяців тому +1

      Man, the Djinn not having a CD on his illusory mechanic and tripling is just so toxic. I tried very hard to not look at the time remaining on your video so to not spoil the fight, in hopes you smashed him.

  • @chrisosborn6401
    @chrisosborn6401 9 місяців тому +1

    Self harm suffering for the Algorithm.

  • @zakkai5196
    @zakkai5196 9 місяців тому

    rough start yeesh

  • @awalker300
    @awalker300 9 місяців тому

    so you're at 5/6 wins at mutator 6. I believe my current record is 1/7 wins. Oooffff.

  • @Rabhadh-RhymesWithJava
    @Rabhadh-RhymesWithJava 9 місяців тому +1

    I'll be honest, I saw the runtime and thought, "Ooh, short episode. Sounds like it's gonna be a steamroll."
    And, I mean, it was...

  • @LovelyBloodRose
    @LovelyBloodRose 9 місяців тому

    For the algorithm

  • @donaldsnyder1543
    @donaldsnyder1543 9 місяців тому

    Owwwie