I hired a piano man to move ours twice now. And this pretty much the way he did it. He wrapped it better and didnt allow much force on the lyre while tipping it over but roughly the same approach. Piano did just fine. Sounds just like it did.
I move piano's for a piano showroom in Virginia. I have never taken the lid off. It adds a extra element to wrap and potentially damage. I think it depends on what kind of gear you have at your disposal. They did a good job....different than my approach but still pretty good
I've been involved in quite a few moves (piano tech for concerts). Using the lyre system as a support is never a good idea - especially in an older piano, as they are not made to support the weight of a piano and if the lyre system is structurally compromised, it can give way.
@@Piratepocketknife Even still, when you put it on the piano board it doesn't cause an issue. Some people remove them, but you are more prone to get dirt and dust into the piano even with moving blankets covering them.
@@nicksshitbro the issue with removing the lid is you can introduce dirt and contaminants into the internals of the piano or possible damage the dampers or what ever else. If you leave the lid on, it prevents all of this. When you put the piano onto the board, we just make sure that we have the lid extending just over the board so the lid isn't resting on the board.
@@seanwright5894 fair enough, but the pads and shrink wrap that go on immediately after getting the legs off should prevent it as well. Not to mention all the stuff that has fallen in over the years from kids and butterfingers and such. One time I fished an iPod touch out of the action that the owner didn't even know about. Today I fished out some sheet music and a weird whistle thing that im thinking may have been a tuner although it looked like a coaxial cable splitter, just not for cables. Weird. But you are right about the lip, as long as you can keep the weight off of it itll ship without issue.
Looks great other than supporting the weight of a grand on the Lyre. What we saw here is how “not” to pivot a piano. Take the Lyre off first. Always. Otherwise, great job.
This may sound stupid and maybe ignorant to some people I've only dealt with uprights. I was told to never tip a piano does anybody know why I was taught that I wonder if that was wrong
If you don't tip that piano how will you get it through a door? There is a reason those are called a "piano dolly"! After it's moved it will most likely need tuning due to the forces of gravity on the wood
@@hunterfisher6670 to have moved thousands and thousands you would need to have moved one a day for over 10 years. Also I am certified by Yamaha as a Factory Authorized Repair Specialist and I can tell you this is how most broken lyres ended up broken and or damaged. Very rarely was it from anything other than inexperienced movers or owners. You do realize you can have to replace the entire thing? Also any time these are moved the acoustics change. Especially if not handled correctly. The sound of the whole thing comes from the way the wood resonates so well as one joined piece. Moving it around like this is the worst thing you can do. It should never be on its side either. Now you have the fully weight shifted onto the side which is inevitably going to change the sound of the instrument.
Oh my God never ever ever ever ever remove the lid. You expose the inside to all sorts of damage. If any mover ever wants to remove the lid scream and run the other way.
I hired a piano man to move ours twice now. And this pretty much the way he did it. He wrapped it better and didnt allow much force on the lyre while tipping it over but roughly the same approach. Piano did just fine. Sounds just like it did.
I move piano's for a piano showroom in Virginia. I have never taken the lid off. It adds a extra element to wrap and potentially damage. I think it depends on what kind of gear you have at your disposal. They did a good job....different than my approach but still pretty good
I've been involved in quite a few moves (piano tech for concerts). Using the lyre system as a support is never a good idea - especially in an older piano, as they are not made to support the weight of a piano and if the lyre system is structurally compromised, it can give way.
Agreed, it all really depends on the age and type of the piano. Overall we are doing both ways, with and without.
You don't have to remove the lid and you didn't even brace the lyre when breaking it over.
What if the lid hangs over the side a little?
@@Piratepocketknife Even still, when you put it on the piano board it doesn't cause an issue. Some people remove them, but you are more prone to get dirt and dust into the piano even with moving blankets covering them.
You always remove the lid unless you can wrap a 1x3 in foam or a pad to keep the weight off of the lip, and more importantly off of the hinges.
@@nicksshitbro the issue with removing the lid is you can introduce dirt and contaminants into the internals of the piano or possible damage the dampers or what ever else. If you leave the lid on, it prevents all of this. When you put the piano onto the board, we just make sure that we have the lid extending just over the board so the lid isn't resting on the board.
@@seanwright5894 fair enough, but the pads and shrink wrap that go on immediately after getting the legs off should prevent it as well. Not to mention all the stuff that has fallen in over the years from kids and butterfingers and such. One time I fished an iPod touch out of the action that the owner didn't even know about. Today I fished out some sheet music and a weird whistle thing that im thinking may have been a tuner although it looked like a coaxial cable splitter, just not for cables. Weird. But you are right about the lip, as long as you can keep the weight off of it itll ship without issue.
Tony you’re the man! 🫡
Looks great other than supporting the weight of a grand on the Lyre. What we saw here is how “not” to pivot a piano. Take the Lyre off first. Always. Otherwise, great job.
Not true. Not necessary in most pianos
@@hunterfisher6670 well if someone moved a $50k plus piano and I owned it I’d definitely not be cool with it. Just better safe than sorry.
You guys are AWESOME
Good job! Well done!! Good care!
You guys gotta drop the front left leg after taking the pedals off.
Apparently the whole comments section are expert piano movers😂
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Resting the piano on the pedals not a good ideaa
I have concerns about it too. But it seems it's a typical way to do it.
Most of the times it isn’t a problem. You do have to be careful on ones that may be loose or smaller framework. And never OK on a curved lyre.
This may sound stupid and maybe ignorant to some people I've only dealt with uprights. I was told to never tip a piano does anybody know why I was taught that I wonder if that was wrong
How you gonna move it lol
If you don't tip that piano how will you get it through a door? There is a reason those are called a "piano dolly"! After it's moved it will most likely need tuning due to the forces of gravity on the wood
@@philg7101 gravity is debatable but yea you’re right on point… piano dolly
@@organicsoulgumbo No, it isn't. Nothing else is causing warping.
Great vid!
Thanks guys for your video
Actually there’s a lot of wasted steps overkill is not best and never balance your piano on the lyre it can snap especially on Yamaha pianos
Untrue. I have moved thousands and thousands of Yamahas and never had a problem.
@@hunterfisher6670 to have moved thousands and thousands you would need to have moved one a day for over 10 years. Also I am certified by Yamaha as a Factory Authorized Repair Specialist and I can tell you this is how most broken lyres ended up broken and or damaged. Very rarely was it from anything other than inexperienced movers or owners. You do realize you can have to replace the entire thing? Also any time these are moved the acoustics change. Especially if not handled correctly. The sound of the whole thing comes from the way the wood resonates so well as one joined piece. Moving it around like this is the worst thing you can do. It should never be on its side either. Now you have the fully weight shifted onto the side which is inevitably going to change the sound of the instrument.
@@christopherozarks6285 ok their boss..... lets see you get it through a doorway without it being on its side..... You gonna cut a hole in the house?
@@chuckholbrook8074 this is so stupid
@@christopherozarks6285”Never be turned on its side” how the hell else is anyone going to fit it through a regular width doorway then 💀
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Don’t hire anybody EXCEPT piano movers for your baby. Look at how much care they put into moving it safely. These guys are piano heroes
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Oh my God never ever ever ever ever remove the lid. You expose the inside to all sorts of damage. If any mover ever wants to remove the lid scream and run the other way.
You have to remove the lid. That's the first thing your supposed to do 🤣 then the pedals.
You always remove the lid,if you don’t you can stress the screws in the piano board no it all
The hinges should be removed as well
@@ThePhildarealdeal nailed it. 👌🏽
Then when it breaks he’s gonna say “you’re the professional, you shouldn’t have listened to me” lol
NEVER rest the piano on the pedal lyer!!! Alsorts of damage might happen!!