NEW VERSION - drive.google.com/file/d/0B5PzieBxOKAdUmJ3Tjc1OFpsX0E/view - click "open in google sheets" at the top in the middle (may be under "open with") and you'll be able to fill in the blue boxes on your own version. If that doesn't work and the backup doesn't either then the maths is - Current Blue Essence * 6.5 Current Tier 3 Runes * 100 Current Tier 3 Quints * 300 Rune pages from IP * 1500 Current IP converts to same number of Blue Essence
shashank nerurkar are you kidding me? If they didn't care why are they doing something that will give them LESS money, there is no way of them gaining money besides bringing new players
For those that didn't get it to work, I redid the math and made a spreadsheet that should work. Here is the link: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15PK8Hh0YMRpq_nyxSh3SOeB5iR-UcoXQapfcRZo8J74/edit?usp=sharing Get this pinned so everyone can see
I actually took the time out of day to redo the spreadsheet for a multitude of people that couldnt get it to work. I think that gives me enough credibility XD
So i calculated what i will get back, and i also calculated what i spent (using 420ip for every tier 3 rune and 1500ip for every quint) and riot basically will delete 77% of my IP i collected through many years playing league. Thanks :)
The main issue with them not giving free champs once you hit lvl 30 is that there are a lot of people who still have no where near all of the champions and need them, not stupid emotes.
I like how he doesn't care about reaching 10 mins for his videos and about clickbait and hes sooo informative and helpful not like other youtubers, wow im subbing 😍
A tip: Usually buying a champion shard (for 1700 IP) will give more than 263 BE (i think most usually you get shards worth 263 BE plus some extra BE sometimes), which after the transition will equal 1700 IP. So to my opinion, apart from keeping what IP you need to buy things before the transition, using the rest to buy champion shards and disenchanting them for BE will most probably make you end up with more BE than what you'd have simply waiting for your IP to be turned into BE in a 1:1 analogy. Note: This is just a theory and if it stands true, it does so for buying _enough_ shards. Buying e.g. just one could very well mean you get a Twisted Fate for 195 BE and even with some extra BE that will probably pop out, you still don't get 263 BE. But if Riot gives the shards randomly, and considering the average champion value is around 3900 IP (and gets bigger with every new release, since from now on all new releases eventually cost 6300 IP - BE, soon - ) which is higher than 3150 IP, the IP-champion value that corresponds to the 263 BE shard value, trying this strategy out _enough_ times you get the probabilities in your favor. _Enough_ is used in a statistical sense, meaning you don't get too influenced by extreme (and rarer) results. But ofc proceed with caution and at your own risk :)
For all the german users out there: The spreadsheet could show an error. That is because of the formula. In english, you would use a point for 6.5. But in Germany, you use 6,5 (weird ik)
I just bought all the runes. Before the purges my total was 203.701 and now my total is 230.886 if the spreadsheet are correct. There is 171 Marks, 225 Selas, 239 Glyps - 108 Quints. Just so you don't have to count ;-)
That would mean if you were to buy a champion mastery shard for 1400 IP you could theoretically end up with more blue essence in season 8. So, 1400 IP cost and you get a champion worth 325 blue essence to disenchant 325*6.5=2112.5. And, 2112.5>1400. This will only be worth it in season if you get a champion shard worth 325 blue essence to disenchant.
there is no need to disenchant your shards. once those changes are here you just get a lot more from disenchanting so it really doesnt matter if you disenchant them now or next season
You said that the blue essence in the loot tab is 6.5x what you have now right? So do you think it would be worth it to use your IP and buy a lot of random champion shards, which then can be disenchanted into blue essence?
2:05 in the entire existence of hextech crafting, across unlocking two seasons worth of chests per champion, i have only ever gotten ONE single gemstone.
Does anyone know if it's POTENTIALLY worth (more than 50% chance) to buy champion shards for 1700 IP and disenchant them so that we get multiplied blue essence afterwards ?
hey @Phylol wouldnt it be better to use the IP and get champion shard tokens and get blue essence from that? that way the blue essence would get multiplied right? or am i missing something?
the last result cell is not using the sum function how it should be. its =sum(value1,value2...) and what's written is =sum(C2+C3+C...) so there's only 1 value in the function. you dont acctually need it
I mean, I have all runes, 20 rune pages, all champs and I quit the game for a year and when I came back I was still able to buy all the new champs with IP/rolled champ shards. I hope that store has something decent to offer.
Thanks for the video. Very helpful. I got two questions tho...will the LOOT BE be combined with the IP BE ? Or do we need to buy Champ Shards now and refund them to BE ? Please answer. Thank you.
is there any reason for me to save ip now? i won't get urfwick etc, coz i have almost no ip now, I'm missing like 12 champions now, but i don't think ill get them easier when s8 comes, right?
So should we open Hextech boxes after the change or before? We might get more blue essence if we open them now, but if we open it after the change we might get "better" loot.
So i'm thinking about something. If you really want to make the most dust possible, maybe it's a good idea to invest in mystery champion tokens? It would be good if we knew what the dust prices in the store will be when the update goes live.
with this coming out is it worth spending all your ip on champion shards to then disenchant the shard for blue essence, since current essence is being multiplied by 6.5?
Will the cost of blue essence that it takes to upgrade your champion mastery be increased when this goes live? Will we even use blue essence anymore to craft our 6th & 7th mastery levels?
It actually is way worth because not only did you get the new rune page that you can use next season but you're also getting 1500 back that you can use for other stuff
they dont transfer over to the new pages, everyone gets all pages unlocked for free so like i said, not worth. Also you only get a 15% refund on runes so you get fucked there also
He literally said "The plan for Rune Pages is for them to carry over into the new system, so prices on rune pages aren't being changed." Everyone has the new runes unlocked, but not all rune pages unlocked
they said that you get to keep your rune pages, but since having multiple rune pages when you can pre-game edit them lowers their value, they will give you some BE back as compensation
So now they are going to offer a system where i will get a gemstone if i have a bad streak of boxes? Bad streak? Since it has started i have opened so many chests and have yet to get a single gemstone to date.
And we still won't get the 1-30 chests, meaning that someone who starts playing 2 weeks before season 8 will actually have LESS than someone who starts the day after s8 comes out.... What the hell?
How will lower tier runes work? I know we can buy tier 3 runes for a normal amount but you can also buy tier 2 runes for 1 IP each. So will this conversion include tier 2 runes or will those just be completely deleted? Because if I went and bought all of the tier 2 quints I could make a lot of blue essence from essentially nothing. My best guess tho is that tier 2 runes will be refunded for the price you paid for them
Ok - I get that you should disenchant all shards for champions you own and aren't likely to hit rank 6/7. But what if you don't own the champion. Does it make sense to hang onto the shard or not?
This episode has one thing missing BTW didn't watch to the end but wanted to point this out. Um wouldn't it be smarter to hold onto the champion shards and use them after the new season because you can more easily activate the shard in the new system.
i have a champion shard and if i want to keep the champion it will take 675 blue essence. will the blue essence cost rise or stay the same when the update comes. im a bit confused
I didn't understand everything, is it worth if we buy mystery champion shard with IP and then transform in blue essence or it's better to keep our IP ?
does that mean its better for me to buy as many champion shards as i can with my current IP and then disenchant them ? will i get more rewarded this way ?
Let me think about this,so if i rather buy mystery champ shards and dischant them into essence i will be getting more blue essence then i would from normal ip when it gets converted
No no no! They are only doing that for the ones before this. When they dropped it to 10 IP, you get nothing from those. You get 100% refund on ones bought before the drop, but after they announced new runes, sorry for the mix up, good luck, have fun.
Will be refunded into Blue Essence, and the full cost will be refunded. Example: a quintessence costs 2000 ip, you will be getting 2000 Blue Essence in s8.
Ok so I have 2 questions... 1 being when does this new patch come around (probably after worlds?) and 2 wouldn't it be the smartest thing to spend all of your IP into champion shards and disenchant them....
NEW VERSION - drive.google.com/file/d/0B5PzieBxOKAdUmJ3Tjc1OFpsX0E/view - click "open in google sheets" at the top in the middle (may be under "open with") and you'll be able to fill in the blue boxes on your own version.
If that doesn't work and the backup doesn't either then the maths is -
Current Blue Essence * 6.5
Current Tier 3 Runes * 100
Current Tier 3 Quints * 300
Rune pages from IP * 1500
Current IP converts to same number of Blue Essence
Phylol Notification squad!!!!! XD
doesnt work lol
doesnt work T.T
thats not how google docs works bro
how comes? I've had all my friends test it and as long as you copy paste the entire thing, fill in the blue boxes it works for them. What goes wrong?
You're saying RIOT GAMES, the franchisee of league of legends, is giving out free shit?
Are you shitting me?
hardly free shit, just barely giving back what took us weeks to spend IP on
free? are you joking? its the least they can do for all the stuff we grinded back then
sion U wat
They don't care
shashank nerurkar are you kidding me? If they didn't care why are they doing something that will give them LESS money, there is no way of them gaining money besides bringing new players
shashank nerurkar I can't tell if you are saying RIOT doesn't normally do this but RIOT gives free shit out constantly.
For those that didn't get it to work, I redid the math and made a spreadsheet that should work.
Here is the link: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15PK8Hh0YMRpq_nyxSh3SOeB5iR-UcoXQapfcRZo8J74/edit?usp=sharing
Get this pinned so everyone can see
Duplicate the first page and use it
But but... you're not an indian... :< How can we trust you?
I actually took the time out of day to redo the spreadsheet for a multitude of people that couldnt get it to work. I think that gives me enough credibility XD
Phy fixed it anyway
thx man, it worked :D
So i calculated what i will get back, and i also calculated what i spent (using 420ip for every tier 3 rune and 1500ip for every quint) and riot basically will delete 77% of my IP i collected through many years playing league. Thanks :)
The main issue with them not giving free champs once you hit lvl 30 is that there are a lot of people who still have no where near all of the champions and need them, not stupid emotes.
Well no one said that you wont get champions after 30,you will just get other rewards more than champs higher your lelev goes probably
Jasko yes
Alex Clark
Im at a point where i don't even want free champs, those i don't own are the ones that don't interest me
of course they are not going to just give you all the champions
Alex Clark my exact problem 😂
I like how he doesn't care about reaching 10 mins for his videos and about clickbait and hes sooo informative and helpful not like other youtubers, wow im subbing 😍
is it better to pay for champ shards with ip and convert them for dust or to just save?
you get roughly 8% more currency if you buy champion shards and disenchant them for blue essence once this update rolls out iirc
of course this is the average, you could be unlucky and get less or lucky and get more
It is worth it if you get champion shards from champs that cost more than 1350. With 450 and 1350 champs you would lose out on IP/essence
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Bram Clasen u get nearly 8% more ip that way. If you want watch my video, I explain it there.
Hi phy how about rune pages bought from the 2 for 1 event? Does it count for both or only for one?
Good question! I have no idea, they didn't mention that either. Maybe we get lucky and they count for both :)
It makes sense that the *amount* of rune pages you *currently have* will count.
Workbenth So are you implying the initial 2 rune pages count aswell?
Thank you for the correction - subtract the two you haven't purchased which were initially given to your account for free.
A tip:
Usually buying a champion shard (for 1700 IP) will give more than 263 BE (i think most usually you get shards worth 263 BE plus some extra BE sometimes), which after the transition will equal 1700 IP. So to my opinion, apart from keeping what IP you need to buy things before the transition, using the rest to buy champion shards and disenchanting them for BE will most probably make you end up with more BE than what you'd have simply waiting for your IP to be turned into BE in a 1:1 analogy.
Note: This is just a theory and if it stands true, it does so for buying _enough_ shards. Buying e.g. just one could very well mean you get a Twisted Fate for 195 BE and even with some extra BE that will probably pop out, you still don't get 263 BE. But if Riot gives the shards randomly, and considering the average champion value is around 3900 IP (and gets bigger with every new release, since from now on all new releases eventually cost 6300 IP - BE, soon - ) which is higher than 3150 IP, the IP-champion value that corresponds to the 263 BE shard value, trying this strategy out _enough_ times you get the probabilities in your favor.
_Enough_ is used in a statistical sense, meaning you don't get too influenced by extreme (and rarer) results. But ofc proceed with caution and at your own risk :)
For all the german users out there: The spreadsheet could show an error. That is because of the formula. In english, you would use a point for 6.5. But in Germany, you use 6,5 (weird ik)
GreydonLP same in france
GreydonLP Well thanks man!
Probably one of the better vids you've made. Gj and thx!
League roulette/gambling: buy a champ shard and see if it's over 1350 IP, if not you lose blue essence in the update otherwise you gain some.
Thanks for taking the time to calculate all this!
Clickbait title, they are NOT rewards, these are COMPENSATIONS
Yoo, runes are on sale in the store for like 90 percent off. Why dont buy many of those for blue essense?
because they only count the ones you bought before S7
I just bought all the runes. Before the purges my total was 203.701 and now my total is 230.886 if the spreadsheet are correct.
There is 171 Marks, 225 Selas, 239 Glyps - 108 Quints. Just so you don't have to count ;-)
Ronni Sc - season 7 runes only get refunded. So the blue essence will be less than the "normal" conversion.
Ronni Sc thats not how it works... if you do a little research you will find a video from riot that says that they won't refund the 10IP runes
He just fucking lost all! LMFAO!
What about orange essence? does that stay the same?
Nik Thalanki yes, it does.
man , you say ''if that makes sense'' a lot
that doesnt make sense
Swagons Swaglord he also says "kinda" and "I guess" a lot .. it is kinda annoying I guess.
comment section is always hilarious i love it
That would mean if you were to buy a champion mastery shard for 1400 IP you could theoretically end up with more blue essence in season 8. So, 1400 IP cost and you get a champion worth 325 blue essence to disenchant 325*6.5=2112.5. And, 2112.5>1400. This will only be worth it in season if you get a champion shard worth 325 blue essence to disenchant.
Thanks for the spread sheet. Its very useful! :D
there is no need to disenchant your shards. once those changes are here you just get a lot more from disenchanting so it really doesnt matter if you disenchant them now or next season
You said that the blue essence in the loot tab is 6.5x what you have now right? So do you think it would be worth it to use your IP and buy a lot of random champion shards, which then can be disenchanted into blue essence?
2:05 in the entire existence of hextech crafting, across unlocking two seasons worth of chests per champion, i have only ever gotten ONE single gemstone.
good thing i got the EXP quints before the price drop to 10 ip XD
That moment when he says his Essence is in the high end, and I'm just here, ending up with a bit less than 500K Blue Essence...
Good work phy. I appreciate the hustle.
everyone claim down n do the maths ,
current blue essence x6.5
tier 3 red yellow blue x100
quins x300
rune page x1500
current ip x1
pretty bad deal for old players
WhiteNecromancer I mean we're getting free exclusive stuff
Well there is a good reason to make Champs not lvl 6 or 7 till season 8
where can i get my reward and how?
Does anyone know if it's POTENTIALLY worth (more than 50% chance) to buy champion shards for 1700 IP and disenchant them so that we get multiplied blue essence afterwards ?
Takafumi :] I think it will depend on what champion you will get. If it's an expensive champion, I think it's worth buying it. Idk tho.
450 and 1350 champs (around 25%) make you lose a lot. 3150 champs are even, 4800 you get a very little more 6300 you get around 500 more IP/BE.
but isnt all of them worth it? Even if you get a cheap champ, that is still
450*6,5 =2925 Blue Essence
Do i have something wrong here?
a 450 shard gives you 87 BE 87x6.5=566. You lose 1134 IP
I did it and got 12% bonus Blue enssence once it's convernted
I just want a victorious bard skin.
Excuse me. I don't want it. I *NEED* it.
I think the spells (especially the w) would look really cool, but I'm not sure about the model tho
I'm sure it'd look a w e s o m e
MrNoName999 FUCK NO
FU K YEA
BARD IS LIFE
for those who dont want count your runes if u already have every single one.. u get around 89000 if u got all runes before S7
Nice Vid dude. Its pretty amazing to find a based video wich want to share information! Missing that in a lot of clickbait vids..
so what happens to the orange essence??
Nemesis 5451 nothing
hey @Phylol wouldnt it be better to use the IP and get champion shard tokens and get blue essence from that? that way the blue essence would get multiplied
right?
or am i missing something?
the last result cell is not using the sum function how it should be. its =sum(value1,value2...) and what's written is =sum(C2+C3+C...) so there's only 1 value in the function. you dont acctually need it
I mean, I have all runes, 20 rune pages, all champs and I quit the game for a year and when I came back I was still able to buy all the new champs with IP/rolled champ shards.
I hope that store has something decent to offer.
hey, if you bought rune pages with RP he said you get an actual epic skin for each four rounded up not skin shards. just making sure.
when I put my numbers in the blue boxes it doesn't give a reward number
AM I GONNA MAKE A FORTUNE IF I BUY ALL RUNES FOR 10 IP NOW AND GET 100 BLUE ESSENCE AFTER OR DOES IT LIKE "COMPENSATE"?
hey phylol is it possible for u to make a calculator for those who bought the runes after season 7 but before riot announcement?
Thanks for the video. Very helpful. I got two questions tho...will the LOOT BE be combined with the IP BE ? Or do we need to buy Champ Shards now and refund them to BE ? Please answer. Thank you.
is there any reason for me to save ip now? i won't get urfwick etc, coz i have almost no ip now, I'm missing like 12 champions now, but i don't think ill get them easier when s8 comes, right?
The calculator doesn't work at all. I made one and if you have the same issue I can send you a file or download link.
^ill take one
Can you send me please?
I too
drive.google.com/open?id=0B2syi-LOE2YCUEt6cmdieUl4TmM
I fucking love you, thanks.
So should we open Hextech boxes after the change or before? We might get more blue essence if we open them now, but if we open it after the change we might get "better" loot.
So i'm thinking about something. If you really want to make the most dust possible, maybe it's a good idea to invest in mystery champion tokens? It would be good if we knew what the dust prices in the store will be when the update goes live.
with this coming out is it worth spending all your ip on champion shards to then disenchant the shard for blue essence, since current essence is being multiplied by 6.5?
So is it more worth to buy mystery champion shards and disenchanting them instead of just saving up ip?
Phy, would it be worth it to purchase champion shards and disenchant them for the essence before S8? or should I just hoard my IP as is?
Will the cost of blue essence that it takes to upgrade your champion mastery be increased when this goes live?
Will we even use blue essence anymore to craft our 6th & 7th mastery levels?
Does that mean that the blue essence worth more than IP , if they change it in S8?
you only get 1500 per page when they cost 6300 each. not worth
It actually is way worth because not only did you get the new rune page that you can use next season but you're also getting 1500 back that you can use for other stuff
they dont transfer over to the new pages, everyone gets all pages unlocked for free so like i said, not worth. Also you only get a 15% refund on runes so you get fucked there also
He literally said "The plan for Rune Pages is for them to carry over into the new system, so prices on rune pages aren't being changed." Everyone has the new runes unlocked, but not all rune pages unlocked
they said that you get to keep your rune pages, but since having multiple rune pages when you can pre-game edit them lowers their value, they will give you some BE back as compensation
Thank you, point proven
Is it worth it to buy 10 hextech chests from the shop and save the essence for this update?
So now they are going to offer a system where i will get a gemstone if i have a bad streak of boxes? Bad streak? Since it has started i have opened so many chests and have yet to get a single gemstone to date.
One more question. How many "blue essence" do we get after a game?
And we still won't get the 1-30 chests, meaning that someone who starts playing 2 weeks before season 8 will actually have LESS than someone who starts the day after s8 comes out.... What the hell?
turns out i have over 400k blue essence, now what rewards will i be able to claim
I got 2 rune pages from the 2-for-1 sale. Do I count it as 1 or 2 pages purchased with IP?
Gamal Elkordy i did this too and thought the same
It's per page I think
An Double ip weekend would be nice again and maybe double ip boosts are worth it now^^
So is it worth buying champion shards with your IP and disentchant them all?
Monin 4800 6300 champ shards worth others are not gonna be worth so luck if the answer
Is it better to convert your current ip to champion shard and then to blue essence?
So do you get more blue essence, if you buy champion shards now, and disenchant them all?
How will lower tier runes work? I know we can buy tier 3 runes for a normal amount but you can also buy tier 2 runes for 1 IP each. So will this conversion include tier 2 runes or will those just be completely deleted? Because if I went and bought all of the tier 2 quints I could make a lot of blue essence from essentially nothing. My best guess tho is that tier 2 runes will be refunded for the price you paid for them
Now we are talking, thanks for the calculator!
what about skin shards? now will be easy upgraded through BE?
Can you tell us when the season 7 started? Like the exact day? Because I started playing lol on november 2k16 so I wanna calculate it that way
Ok - I get that you should disenchant all shards for champions you own and aren't likely to hit rank 6/7.
But what if you don't own the champion. Does it make sense to hang onto the shard or not?
So i have to disenchant all my skin shards to get more blues stuff?
it does not work for me, i paste it, fill in the numbers and nothing happens. could u just show the math behind it ?
So I started league in mid s7 and I bought a lot of tunes like 2 months ago, so am I not getting blue essence for that
wait guys im confuised ... so the runes i bought this season (7) doesnt count but the runes that i bought in season 6 counts ?
Is better disenchant into blue now or after
What are they going to do with people that have been at lol 30 for awhile like iv been lvl 30 since season 4
Wait so if you only bought like 1 or 2 tune pages with rp they just say fuck it and dont give you anything?
So do u have to put all my runes in the inventory
Will upgrading champ shards to champ permanent still cost the same or will it scale with the new currency?
This episode has one thing missing BTW didn't watch to the end but wanted to point this out. Um wouldn't it be smarter to hold onto the champion shards and use them after the new season because you can more easily activate the shard in the new system.
if you bought only one rune page with RP do you just not get anything?
i have a champion shard and if i want to keep the champion it will take 675 blue essence. will the blue essence cost rise or stay the same when the update comes. im a bit confused
may i ask? blue essence or ip give more blue essence after season 8?
Is it more worth to reroll 3 and get a permanent champion or to disenchant all three?
Does it still count what I bought in s7?
Mid Katarina the runes you bought in s7 will be completely refunded
I didn't understand everything, is it worth if we buy mystery champion shard with IP and then transform in blue essence or it's better to keep our IP ?
does that mean its better for me to buy as many champion shards as i can with my current IP and then disenchant them ? will i get more rewarded this way ?
so, buy champ shards with ip and disenchant them to get more blue essence season 8?
It's a gamble but you could use your ip to buy the mystery champion shards to profit, but it's a risk because you don't know what shards you'll get.
you dont have a section for runes bought during season 7 which are refunded for full value
So we can spend all our ip on champ shards and disnechant all of it in essence? Then get all of that 6.5x?
hey phy!!! you look really good now. like seriously :)
I have 20 rune pages but most of them were 2 for 6300.. how do I calculate?
Why didn't u let us see all the blue essence rewards ? I mean Gameston will ba able to get ?
Is it worth it to buy random (mystic) champion shards? Now, and disenchant them to vain more from them in season 8?
Let me think about this,so if i rather buy mystery champ shards and dischant them into essence i will be getting more blue essence then i would from normal ip when it gets converted
When S8 comes out?
How do you know that your curren Blue essence will be multiplied by 6.5?
wait so should i disenchant champ shards now or later?
Is it worth it to buy mystery champion shards and disenchant them for the 6.5x multiplier?
all the runes are 97% off do they count?
When you get a chest do you get a key with it?
I bought most of my tier 3 quints in season 7 do i get the ip's?
Runes bought in season 7 wont give you Blue Essence but Will be refounded? Into what?
into blue essence. each cost 10 ip so you will be getting 10 essence each one you bought
No no no! They are only doing that for the ones before this. When they dropped it to 10 IP, you get nothing from those. You get 100% refund on ones bought before the drop, but after they announced new runes, sorry for the mix up, good luck, have fun.
Will be refunded into Blue Essence, and the full cost will be refunded. Example: a quintessence costs 2000 ip, you will be getting 2000 Blue Essence in s8.
Ok so I have 2 questions... 1 being when does this new patch come around (probably after worlds?) and 2 wouldn't it be the smartest thing to spend all of your IP into champion shards and disenchant them....
will the champions price be 6300,4800etc blue essence ? is blue essence worth the same as IP?