My Arcade 40th Anniversary Micro Player vs. Pocket Player Comparison - Which One's Worth Your Money?

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  • Опубліковано 31 жов 2024

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  • @thanos4035
    @thanos4035 3 роки тому +21

    The 40th Anniversary sounds sad or sick. It almost sounds like a hardware issue :( But you made it clear it’s in the software. It’s a shame.

  • @Emceemur
    @Emceemur 3 роки тому +1

    These are always interesting and fun. And great opportunities for glamour shots of the different gadgets. You really went in depth on the audio too! Great job, dood.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 роки тому

      Thanks for watching and for the feedback, Mur. As you know, I always try to put in all the work I can to make my stuff as informative and entertaining as I can muster within my limitations. It's good to hear once in a while that I hit the mark! 😊

  • @02DooD
    @02DooD 3 роки тому +5

    My only problem is that ghosts don't work the way they should. At 2:22 Blinky starts circling the top left instead of going towards the top right like he does in the Arcade. It seems they switched Blinky and Pinky's target zones because she starts going to the top right, where Blinky should be. Also not really useful info, but Pac-Man doesn't munch as fast as he does in the arcade game. I've played this so much I noticed his mouth isn't as fast. 1 more thing, the ghosts eyes look huge in these ports
    Edit: Forgot to mention this, the screens too tall because some pixels seem doubled. It kinda gives the scared ghost sprite a bigger forehead

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 роки тому +1

      That's your ONLY problem?

    • @02DooD
      @02DooD 3 роки тому

      @@GenXGrownUp Well the only major one. Gameplay is the biggest thing so the screen and other small things don't bug as much, but that audio is legitimately gross. It's way too noticeable

    • @corellioncrusaderproductio4679
      @corellioncrusaderproductio4679 Рік тому

      @@GenXGrownUp From a gameplay perspective, that is the only major problem with the ROM.
      - Ghost scatter targets are flipped on X axis
      - Frightened/Fleeing ghost do not pause scatter timer, meaning they can reverse in this mode.
      - Ghosts do now update their directions while in the tunnels, if a reverse is scalled it will not go through until they reach the end of the tunnel which means they get in a strange loop of going back and forth through the tunnel
      - Audio buffering is nonexistent, but not the worst
      - Pinky and Inky's starting positions are flipped. This means Pinky takes longer to exit than normal and Inky takes less time, which desyncs it from the actual game.
      You could go on and on about the differences, but the gameplay itself is pretty solid. Yes the sounds are a big factor.
      Also 02, the reason Pac-Man's mouth doesn't 'munch' as fast is because the original game uses the exact pixel location to determine what frame it uses. Basically the faster Pac-Man moves from pixel to pixel, the faster he advances through his frames. This one doesn't seem to use that system, but I could be mistaken.

    • @Danyplaysboblox
      @Danyplaysboblox 5 місяців тому +1

      @@corellioncrusaderproductio4679and don’t forget one thing: the scared ghost will ALWAYS follow you

  • @cowciumchloride5702
    @cowciumchloride5702 2 роки тому +2

    Woah...The 40th Anniversary Micro Player's intro music is 3 half steps lower than the intro of the original arcade version.
    Original Arcade: Key of C
    40th Anniversary Micro Player: Key of A

  • @ethanshellington9866
    @ethanshellington9866 3 роки тому +4

    I agree with you with all of that. I do think the looks of the my arcade one looks better.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 роки тому +1

      They're both My Arcade; do you mean the 40th Anniversary? That one is quite pretty.

    • @ethanshellington9866
      @ethanshellington9866 3 роки тому +1

      @@GenXGrownUp ya the 40th anniversary one is the one I meant.

  • @Cyko..
    @Cyko.. 2 роки тому +2

    I got the Tiny Arcade Pac-Man and to me, it's awesome. Great sounds.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  2 роки тому +1

      Cool. The Tiny Arcade units are surprisingly good.

  • @KarynLaura
    @KarynLaura Рік тому +1

    Hi. I like how you’re able to unscrew the joystick on the 40th anniversary unit. Great idea. Why isn’t this a feature on any all two handed controllers? Seems like a cool option. Great video. 👍👍👍

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  Рік тому +1

      This has been a feature of My Arcade's Micro Player line from the get-go. Many don't care for it, but it opens up options depending on your needs or preferences, so I like it. Thanks for watching! 😀

  • @thunderm00se88
    @thunderm00se88 3 роки тому +3

    So many Pac Man collectibles available, so much inconsistency! I play it on the Arcade1up countercade which seems to be the arcadeport or at least very close to it

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 роки тому +1

      For sure, M00SE. The A1U models are using the arcade ROMs, and as long as they don't have processing problems (I'm looking at you, generation 1 Partycade), they play pretty well. They're in a much higher price bracket, though beyond what I'd call "collectibles" (though I know many people do collect 'em).

    • @thunderm00se88
      @thunderm00se88 3 роки тому

      @@GenXGrownUp Haha I'm not familiair but with the early incarnations! Got mine 4 months ago :) I agree that you can't consider them collectibles, they're for playing! I bought it mainly for when friends come over, people love the thing, so it gets used a lot!

  • @TheKurtsPlaceChannel
    @TheKurtsPlaceChannel 3 роки тому +1

    Very entertaining and fun to watch. Thanks for posting this.

  • @Fungib1e
    @Fungib1e 3 роки тому +5

    "What does all this mean in summary?" Easy, MyArcade doesn't give a damn and are just cranking these out for a buck. The Space Invaders was apparently just a case of accidentally failing upwards.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 роки тому

      I would've agreed with you twelve months ago, Allen. Two things have changed, though. First, the Premium Edition line do show a bit more care. Though they weren't perfect, they were miles closer to what fans like me would want than these players. Second, "cranking" is now past tense: "cranked" (or crunk? 😉) My Arcade hasn't announced or shipped anything new since SF2CE, and with nothing on the horizon, we may have seen the end of the My Arcade Micro Player mill. Failing upwards, though? Spot on.

    • @Fungib1e
      @Fungib1e 3 роки тому

      @@GenXGrownUp They hadn’t put anything out lately? Huh, hadn’t noticed. But then, a lot of stuff has been slowed down quite a bit lately. Hm, I wonder why. I guess we’ll never know.

  • @marccaselle8108
    @marccaselle8108 3 роки тому +2

    I wish my arcade would do a combo of WWF superstars and WWF wrestlefest arcade games that would be awesome. 🙂

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 роки тому

      I'd show up to check it out at the very least.

  • @pj_siconolfi
    @pj_siconolfi 3 роки тому +3

    Honestly, in my opinion the micro player sounds better than the pocket player just because the pocket player audio sounds really squeaky and loud and high pitched

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 роки тому +1

      Wow, that really surprises me. Despite it being a completely different pitch you prefer it to the one that's technically closer to the original? Fascinating!

    • @pj_siconolfi
      @pj_siconolfi 3 роки тому +2

      @@GenXGrownUp yeah, I usually keep it on my shelf anyways.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 роки тому +1

      @@pj_siconolfi On the shelf, it sounds awesome! 😜 Thanks so much for watching, Claws!

  • @SoulcatcherLucario
    @SoulcatcherLucario 2 роки тому +1

    I really love this video, because this reminds me of the early to mid 2000 plug and plays. The differences between the two to three revisions are stark and I would love to know how they were programmed. Apparently the 2003 version was written in assembly and the 2005/2008 revision was in C? Do you know anything about the hardware in the Jakks Pacific pnps like I grew up? Five year old me could tell the vast changes between the arcade and the plug and plays, but I still enjoyed it.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  2 роки тому

      I'm so glad you enjoyed it. I hear tell of the Jakks Pacific units and only rarely run across them, but I haven't picked one up. Maybe I should!

    • @SoulcatcherLucario
      @SoulcatcherLucario 2 роки тому

      @@GenXGrownUp A very fair warning; the original 2003 version isn't arcade accurate at all (the sound chip seemed to only produce square waves); in fact, neither of them really hit the mark. In terms of still being fun? They hold up beautifully.

  • @AbeM.
    @AbeM. Рік тому +1

    @ 2:29 oh that’s weird, the title screen on my pocket player actually says “pac-man 1980 BNEI” 😮 so even within the pocket players there’s revision differences?

  • @jessragan6714
    @jessragan6714 3 роки тому +2

    The ghost munching noise is wrong in both of those games, to the point of distraction. However, I'd generally agree that the handheld sounds better than the cabinet. I heard that the handheld is running a custom made Genesis version of Pac-Man... has there been any effort to extract the ROM and port it to the actual system?

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 роки тому

      I'm pretty sure they're both running on a Genesis core, Jess. I expect the 40th cab just used a different (read: worse) sound chip which was unable to accurately reproduce the sounds required. No ROM extraction efforts done by me.

  • @randysmith7094
    @randysmith7094 3 роки тому +2

    I think the ROM is probably the same (except for the date text). The units are most likely using two different "One Chip Genesis" ICs as well as different timing crystals, filters, and audio chips...

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 роки тому +1

      Not identical (shown by the date revision), but based on observation it's quite likely that the bulk of the functional code is unchanged. As I've discussed with some other commenters, it could just be a different chipset; but to choose a chipset that changes the pitch and timbre as to make it so far off? That's an oof.

    • @randysmith7094
      @randysmith7094 3 роки тому

      @@GenXGrownUp Those old single chip genesis clones were famous for their really bad audio replication.

  • @corellioncrusaderproductio4679

    I really wonder if this is a software issue. It's almost like they transposed the audio down an octive. It's not like it's the wrong sounds or the wrong music, its just played in the wrong key. The music itself all sounds exactly right, just played at the incorrect pitch. Huh.

    • @robd1329
      @robd1329 Рік тому +1

      Your probably right. I wonder if they have to pay a shit load of money just for the original arcade 'sound'.

  • @ButterSpider3
    @ButterSpider3 3 роки тому +1

    Another slam dunk review! Thanks Jon!!!

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 роки тому

      Flattery will get you far in life. Keep it up! 😜 Thanks, Butter Spider!

  • @renefigueroa6309
    @renefigueroa6309 3 роки тому +2

    Can you review the Space Invaders Basic Fun game? I got it last week at a mall and while it isn't as accurate to the actual Space Invaders, it changes some stuff up like in the asteroids like how in the later levels, the invaders get faster.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 роки тому +1

      I don't have that one, Rene, but I'll keep an eye out for it. That's the blister pack, right? Not the boxed one?

    • @renefigueroa6309
      @renefigueroa6309 3 роки тому

      @@GenXGrownUp It's the blister pack one with no modern version yet.

  • @dreadtheweekend
    @dreadtheweekend Рік тому

    I had the pocket player. Yeah sounds like the audio is a bit better and you get the two other games. But if you want something to display on a shelf and maybe only play very occasionally I guess you would go for the 20th anniversary my arcade.

  • @andyrockett495
    @andyrockett495 2 роки тому +1

    One thing Jon, I have the PAC-MAN Pocket Player also, can you maybe tell me why it plays the PAC-MAN song at the start of EVERY board please? I'd like your input (if you haven't explained that already). Thanks from one die-hard PAC-MAN fan to another.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  2 роки тому

      Hey, Andy. I don't have any good reason for it, but I did notice and call it out in my Pocket Player review: ua-cam.com/video/QeuR9oO32MQ/v-deo.html
      Just a programming oversight by whomever made that particular simulation. 😀 Thanks for watching, man!

    • @andyrockett495
      @andyrockett495 2 роки тому

      @@GenXGrownUp Thank u for replying so fast....Have you had the chance to review or play the Numskull Designs Quarter Arcade PAC-MAN yet? I'd love your insight/review of it since it is my FAVORITE version of the original PAC-MAN I own....very true to the actual arcade cabinet IMHO.

  • @KingD-light
    @KingD-light Рік тому +1

    The pocket sounds very close. But it's way better than the Nintendo version the other version of my Arcade

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  Рік тому +1

      I thought so, too. Thanks for watching!

  • @russellj.s.257
    @russellj.s.257 Рік тому

    The 40 th anniversary version reminds me of what it sounds like when you play a 33lp record album at 45 rpms.

  • @THEKLEVER187
    @THEKLEVER187 3 роки тому +1

    Bro ! I gotta stop watching your videos , all they do is make me wanna go out and hunt them or buy them on Amazon lol … great work brotha

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 роки тому

      (a) Please don't stop watching! 🥰
      (b) You're not the first to accuse me of being a bad influence! 😉

  • @jfmc7775
    @jfmc7775 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Jon off topic but Galaga or Galaxian?

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 роки тому

      Oh, easily Galaga. Once you've played the sequel, it's tough to go back to Galaxian.

    • @jfmc7775
      @jfmc7775 3 роки тому

      @@GenXGrownUp yeah I suppose Galaxian is more of a chill game 🤘

  • @cxk7127
    @cxk7127 3 роки тому +4

    At least it's not the Atari 2600 version ; )

  • @NEOGEOMVS
    @NEOGEOMVS 3 роки тому +1

    I think they’re both good but definitely don’t compare to the actual machine rom. What blows my mind is that the pocket player sounds way better for being 2 years older than the 40th anniversary device.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 роки тому

      I get the feeling that they're running a different chipset, which accounts for the wide variance in audio reproduction.

  • @richlo8887
    @richlo8887 4 місяці тому

    Looks like MyArcade finally nailed down decent versions of the classics Galaga, Space Invaders and Ms. Pac-Man. All they need now, is a decent version of Pac-Man! For now, the #14 Arcade Classics version is the best. Let's go, MyArcade....step it up!!!
    The question is, should we hold out hope or give in to #14?

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  4 місяці тому

      Did you catch the 2024 re-issue (basically) of the BF #14? ua-cam.com/video/gUm6Oss3mBk/v-deo.html

  • @mediumsizedm
    @mediumsizedm Рік тому +1

    Very good
    Subscribed

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  Рік тому

      Thanks for the sub! Happy to have you here. 😀

  • @MusicMan32K
    @MusicMan32K 3 роки тому +2

    I'm thinking it might be the same game but different Genesis emulation hardware. They probably cheaped out and use inferior hardware on the 40th anniversary cab.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 роки тому

      I suspect you're onto something, MusicMan. The ROM was also revisioned between the two as indicated by the date on the title screen, but that doesn't necessarily mean there was a substantial code change. It could literally be a different chipset; but to choose a chipset that changes the pitch and timbre as to make it so far off? That's an oof.

  • @mikethinks
    @mikethinks 3 роки тому +2

    5:20 OMG someone needs to get Pacman some new shoes....those are very squeaky

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 роки тому +1

      Wet rubber, meet wet leather! 😅

  • @trainsplanesandotherthings5187

    Man if I had that back in the 80's as a kid ..I would be God !

  • @QunMang
    @QunMang 3 роки тому +2

    I'm going to be the negative Ned here and say I don't really like either one to be honest. If I had to pick though, I would take the pocket player as it seems more normal to be inferior to the original in that form factor. That, and I can carry it in my pocket for a quick play when waiting for something. But hey, at least the 40th anniversary version is worlds better than the Coleco VFD version from back in the day, am I right? :P

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 роки тому +2

      Way to go, Ned! 😉 I was honestly not at all interested in the Pocket Players before I picked this one up on the cheap - especially after being burned by this 40th Anniversary unit. But I've actually been pleasantly surprised by it. I still prefer playing the genuine article on my PowKiddy, of course, but if you were gonna pick one of these, that 40th box is good as a decoration and that's about it in my book. And speaking of the old Coleco VFDs, those have their charm (if not accuracy)!

  • @MIKandJEAN
    @MIKandJEAN 2 роки тому

    Maybe you should remake this video... The My Arcade port of Pacman is the Nintendo NES version, (the same one on Evercade & NES mini) and has nothing to do with the arcade version. The handheld sounds correct to the NES game, but my guess the C3P0 coverings on the 40th edition may not of been cheap so they used cheaper hardware to run the game??? The standard yellow that is the same size as the 40th edition runs fine and is identical to the handheld from what I can see, I have the standard yellow one and was checking out the 40th. ;)

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  2 роки тому +1

      Maybe you didn't watch the video, but neither of these include the NES port of Pac-Man. Orientation, sprites, layout, etc. are all much closer to the arcade version, and include modern copyright notices.

  • @Carlb328
    @Carlb328 Рік тому

    You need to hack that little cabinet with a raspberry pi and MAME.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  Рік тому

      I really don't. Way more cost and effort than just choosing another product that does what you want the "modded" device to do.

  • @MIKandJEAN
    @MIKandJEAN 2 роки тому

    Check out the Pacman versions on NES mini, Nintendo Switch Namco Museum Archives 1, Evercade Namco Museum Collection 1 and even the standard yellow one of this Gold stand-up mini. Could be another comparison video on the horizon. 😉

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  2 роки тому

      I'll check into it. I'll need to be careful, though, or I may be accused of posting nonsense. 😉

    • @MIKandJEAN
      @MIKandJEAN 2 роки тому +1

      @@GenXGrownUp lol that reply was removed as I realized it was not a random who posted but the video creator. Tube being very glitchy today.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  2 роки тому

      @@MIKandJEAN Just razzing you! 😉

  • @antoniojesusdiazmartinez3267
    @antoniojesusdiazmartinez3267 3 роки тому +1

    Pocket player = BEST Pac-Man emulation

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 роки тому

      That's a bit of a stretch. It's certainly better than the 40th Anniversary box, though.

  • @negative1723
    @negative1723 3 роки тому +1

    still waiting you to review the namco myplayer compilation, which blows
    all these other versions away. (except the controls).
    later
    -1

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 роки тому +1

      You and about two dozen other, neg. 😉 Other stuff just keeps percolating to the top of my production list. I will get to it one day. Thanks for the reminder.

    • @negative1723
      @negative1723 3 роки тому

      @@GenXGrownUp I'm just messing with you. I know life gets busy. I'm just getting the numskull 1/4 scale cabinets for ms pac-man, pac-man and galaga. They are all aesthetically very well done, but the controls don't scale down to small sizes very well. they also cost a lot more for that quality.
      the namco myplayer is an excellent compromise for the price, game selection, although the control is lacking.
      later
      -1

  • @GamerAlexYT
    @GamerAlexYT 2 роки тому +3

    I did a video on different pacman games sounding the same like the one as My Arcade

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  2 роки тому +1

      That's going in the wrong direction! 😜

    • @GamerAlexYT
      @GamerAlexYT 2 роки тому +2

      @@GenXGrownUp lol facts

    • @GamerAlexYT
      @GamerAlexYT 2 роки тому +2

      Did you see it

  • @andromedaone3640
    @andromedaone3640 3 роки тому

    They are using cheap speakers, the 40th anniversary unit is probably that what is used in a wrist watch, still a nice piece.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 роки тому

      Not sure if you watched all the way through, but I bypassed the speaker for the audio tests and sampled the sound directly from the headphone jack. Can't blame the speaker in this case! » 4:01

  • @I-like-Sonic-91
    @I-like-Sonic-91 5 місяців тому

    Say, I know the possible reason why both sounds so off. Both use hacked Sega Genesis software, therefore it uses different soundchips from the original.

  • @leejoe86686
    @leejoe86686 7 місяців тому

    The 40th anniversary version is completely low pitched. I do not prefer that low pitch sounds. 3.2/10

    • @leejoe86686
      @leejoe86686 7 місяців тому

      Also, My 2018 pocket player is a bit newer cuz It has Micro USB-C.

  • @VikyValdes
    @VikyValdes Рік тому

    The pocket Player sounds like colocovision

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  Рік тому

      Was there a Pac-Man on CV? I didn't know that!

  • @heatherbrunette2685
    @heatherbrunette2685 Рік тому

    honestly i think you're a little too picky. i think they are all fine and i would play any of them. but dont get me wrong, you are right about a lot of things like ms pac man. that is meh. they are putting out a new edition of these though that are like the real deal.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  Рік тому

      I respect your opinion, but disagree. Particularly on a unit earmarked to celebrate the 40th anniversary of such a landmark game? Anything short of accuracy is disrespectful. Thank you for watching, Heather! 😀

  • @andrewdupuis1151
    @andrewdupuis1151 Рік тому

    i have both of them

  • @theretrogamerfromatariland2021
    @theretrogamerfromatariland2021 3 роки тому

    I bet they used a speaker designed for the nes in the 40th anavesery

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 роки тому

      Heh. I don't recall the NES having a speaker, and you may have missed it, but I completely bypassed the speaker in my testing. » 4:01

  • @russellj.s.257
    @russellj.s.257 Рік тому

    I think the pocket player version is the best

  • @alextheeditortheobjectthingy
    @alextheeditortheobjectthingy 2 місяці тому

    2:28 this is broken screen Pac-Man

  • @djw315mw2
    @djw315mw2 Рік тому

    Sounds like an atgames machine

  • @nuggetprich7069
    @nuggetprich7069 Рік тому

    You know I didn't care about the sounds until I started watching your videos. Shit!

  • @MrSlomo67
    @MrSlomo67 3 роки тому +2

    Sound yuck!

  • @gamrroyale5928
    @gamrroyale5928 3 роки тому +1

    63 to like I am speed

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  3 роки тому +1

      Get it, Lightning McQueen. 🏆

    • @gamrroyale5928
      @gamrroyale5928 3 роки тому +2

      @@GenXGrownUp yeah 👌👌👍 love your reviews

  • @zerozero5027
    @zerozero5027 3 роки тому

    $40. For crap ....I like the other games