Thanks for spreading a choice for people. You did a good video and easy with good detail . I will recommend others to watch your video. It will be a lot easier when English speaker explain how to do it.
Thanks for the kind words Jon. In reality your video is so easy to follow and we'll made that, any other, even a copy, merely seems like a poor sequel. We really enjoy your philosophy too. Much love, J&S
J&S, love the video, and now I am a fan, as I am a fan of Jon. Jon, you’re video is very easy to understand and follow. I worked in the water and wastewater field for years and love videos of home made water filtration system and how to make active carbon. I would love to see video of adding UV lighting powered by solar cells on the final tank where the activated carbon or an additional fifth tank. Also the solar panel placed on top of the tanks help shade, cool, and prevent BPA leaching into the filtered water. The carbon helps prevent that, but I believe cooling helps maximizing its efficiency. Great job all
Hey Jon, from Australia. I'm pretty sure I left a comment on your video about how good your design is 👌 & It's really good to see other people copying your filter design & paying tribute to you & your community. I hope you are all doing well! 👍
Jon, I have watched your videos many times. I appreciate them. I've been gathering the pieces for both the filter and steel barrels for making my own charcoal. Your English is great. Thank you all.
Idea for you. When they make purified sand they basically torch it it in a metal drum rotating the drum of sand and burn the sand which turns bugs, parasites, debris to dust leaving the sand almost white. Sift over a fine screen leaving just the sand, and a much better filtering sand.
Thanks 4 the video, great job! An advice: in order to use all the volume of the filter you need to cut the excess of the screen: the flap of the net on the barrel wall is a shortcut for the water!!!!!! In the video, showing the filling up, the flow can be seen on the wall.
Having worked with water treatment standards, I'm concerned about the use of bike tires as gaskets. You should really be getting rubber that's rated for drinking water instead of just recycling bike tires. Aside from that this looks like a really cool project!
right behind you is a roof fit guttering and down pipes with dump valves and water every time it rains ,lived on tank water a long part of my life here in AU and TPNg with the dump valve it puts the first of the a water on the ground thus removing droppings and dust and whatever plus a sieve with fine mesh on the tanks secondary filter .as a Kiwi you would be aware of this ,other tip use geo clothe as the filtrating medium as it lets through water but not silt ,reason used inland scapeing and other works
Che bro, we are in Bolivia and cant easily get geo cloth but sounds good! Our roof above is tiny and 4 sided. Could set it up to collect water. Have done for a friend with a bigger roof in a nearby city. Here we get so little rain for such a short season that it wouldn't add much to it. We do harvest rain water into 3 swales and have a well.
Thanks for sharing! Actually anciant Chinese has been using this method for thousand of years, my grandpa old house & the whole village have filter similar like these, but most of them was all in one big clay jar, not four buckets(which is more advanced), inside also big and small rocks, sand, screen, cloth and charcoal, to filter water from wells.
Great video! Not that I have built anything like you did. But I thought it might be a good idea to use a bucket custom cut to fit over float value lever so it could move freely. Put some holes in it and rocks on it so it wouldn't float up. Mount a pipe to it for the string line and float ball. Or spend $500 on a water softener.
Ola, Kia Ora and Talofa lava. Im living in Akatarawa NZ off grid using stream water. Thank you for the guide in particular the detailed parts in your vid. Starting this project tomorrow. Holla if you need parts, happy to send to help your community. You two rock! X Arohanui and alofa atu.
Greetings to Bolivia from Wallachia You have a nice filtration of water almost the same as we do here in Europe in solitary places where there is no drinking water, but if your friend from Germany helped you I am not surprised, we have Germans as western neighbors I have similar filtration only smaller for rainwater as utility free i.e. before they introduce taxes even for water from the sky 😄 I have all layers in one container separated from each other by geotextile, filtered water then I store in IBC containers, I just don't have a settling valve in the gravel layer but I will finish it 😃 for me it was probably the hardest to wash carefully all the material before it was inserted into the filter, the plan is a replacement filter so that when the first one is clogged it switches to the second one by turning the valve and the first one is repaired 🥺 I wish you a lot of successful projects all the best. Standy
Hi Guys! thanks for this great video. i was planning for a diy for river water filter. your video will help me a lot. hope it will work as well with river water. will keep you posted on my progress . thanks again. God bless!
I think an angle float valve installed at top of tank, and a pipe run to bottom, would be easier to access, service, adjust, and replace. Just a union on the fill tube will prevent having to cut the pipe during replacement. Also, using old cotton tee shirts with the mesh would protect the layers from mixing better. Just some thoughts. I really liked the video.
Thanks a lot I’m trying one with the flower pot I seen a guy do it it seems to be I got a little bit out of it you take a flower pot and then put a cork or a piece of wood in the bottom and let it drip through like a Berkey called a ceramic filter
I noticed that your charcoal wasn't all ground down into fine dust and there were lots of chunks/pieces in there. My understanding of charcoal filtration is that it is only as effective (and long lasting) as how fine you are able to make the dust. Did you know that a cup of fine charcoal dust has enough surface area to cover one acre? THAT is how effective filtration works because the huge surface area can bond with a high volume of nasties (heavy metals, etc). So unless you grind it down fine enough, (a) most of the charcoal content is not going to actually touch the water passing through the container (so not a very effective filter), and (b) the filtration effects that you do get will not last that long because most of the charcoal is being wasted. Next time use a pestle and mortar to grind each piece down into fine dust and then it will be almost like a shiny paste when you activate it with the acid. For a few hours more work, you'll have a filter that works 1000 times better at removing the bad stuff, and lasts years instead of months.
We just did a water analysis. Coliforms are present. They range from 0.5 nm wide. We will add another layer of finely ground activated charcoal to the top as per your recommendation. Let's see how thick we can put it to optimise flow through rate.
Thanks for sharing and helping the community there! Perhaps I missed the part of hamdling potential bacterial buildup found in standing water (i.e. if you went on vacation)?
We havent had that prob as is in constant use. I am amazed at how long water from this stays good if left in a glass beside the bed. If you had an issue after a long time of no use: Empty the inlet tank and reserve tank. Clean reservoir with baking soda, rice water or vinegar. Refill and flush twice the volume of the reserve tank through it with some Cl02
I have another solution. . . I had a stainless steel tank made of 1.5mm sheeting. There is no gutter water going into it. It fills by the water that hits the top of the tank, flowing into the tank via very small holes all around the lid in the center of the tank. As rain water is distilled and stainless doesn't leach toxins. . . U have water ready to drink.
Good to see another implementation of Josh's work I maybe being fussy, but I'd be careful with the kind of silicone you use, screen material and the rubber, if it's in contact with the water, particularly after the carbon stage. Great work!
Also another reason not to drink bottled water is because there is higher than recommended levels of arsenic in most bottled water. At least here in the us. I'm not sure if it's the same there though.
Consider painting the cement and put cloth (bed sheet) over it while it’s still wet and repainting it while it’s still wet. Gives it a wonderful finish and strength...
Thank you for the lovely demo of such an important thing. What I would like to know is your experience on how the water behaves when you have it stored. What average or max. temperatures and what length and how does it affect the system? Point being a rough understanding on how often one needs rain or maintenance if the water stays stagnant in the 4th storage barrel. 🙏❤
Its stored airtight so I guess a long time. Fyi I can leave a glass of this purified water on the bedside for 5 days and it still tastes pure and has no growths / discoloration etc. That is better than the commercial filtered bottled water we were buying.
@@Kaiwaipermaculturebolivia Thank you for responding. That sounds ideal! Please post more as your experience grows. This is super useful info. A joyful day to you.
This is very in depth and I hope to incorporate a system like this soon for our own property…thanking you so much for sharing this information..blessings wished…
when quoting the use of silicon use fish tank silicon as bathroom or kitchen silicon has fungicide within it and would be bad for health if water from this was consumed. Fish tank silicon has no chemicals otherwise a great video
I have a problem with using silicone in contact with drinking water, there must be a different approach. Would you repair a broken drinking glass with silicone and actually feel alright drinking from it? Maybe just a super good fitting gasket and skip the chemical contamination altogether. I’m also a bit hesitant using the plastic drums because we’re not 100% positive it doesn’t contain BHP. I’m wondering if concrete tanks would be more or less safe. Stainless steel is optimum but expensive and here in the Philippines some tanks advertised as ‘stainless’ are actually low quality stainless and soon start to rust.
since your filter is dependent on the pressure of city water, if you don't have that luxury, a supply tank on the top of the hill and attached supply line to the filter you folks have made would be needed, as well as some means to supply the water to the top of the hilltop supply tank
Hello! My country(Uruguay) is entering a Water Crisis and I came upon this video. I love how you explain and I'm sorry If you mentioned this ,my english is not very good, in my situattion the water from the tap is doubled in sodium concentration. Instead of 200 mg/L, we are getting 440 mg/L and we can't consume that, and also bottled water is expensive and also starting to scarce because we are not prepared for this kind of crisis. I want to know if this system is for that kind of water with a lot of salt. Again, Thank you so much for this tutorial, if this works for my situation, I'll start helping my community with it.
Mate, have you tested the water (End Results) with a Micro Siemens meter? Electro Conductivity (EC)? Any reading over 50 Mms/m2 is considered HARD water.
Hi Nancy, those seem super toxic and corrosive. I would use the same sequential system but instead of plastic barrels make cement structures or trenches. It will work that way.
Hello, very good video, thank you very much! I am interested in knowing how heavy metals such as fluoride and arsenic can be filtered. Some waters have them and they do not alter their taste but they silently deteriorate health. I listened to Simon talk about a chemical recombination of aluminum and chlorine, perhaps you can give me some guidelines, regards!
We have built this reliant upon Josh Kearns testing and design. Also with knowledge that commercial filters use charcoal and uv. For more detailed answers we'd need to research further.
There is not much rain here. On this farm we harvest rain water with swales and an infiltration pond. That protects our well which we could use as the water source for the water filter
The charcoal is good for two years. The first tank gets flushed periodically from the bottom valve. The second tank can be opened and stirred from the top scooping any fine sediment from it when the flow through rate slows. . Thats all the maintenance required
@@tomtomate8455 so that it can come out with pressure at lower elevations in case you plumb taps from the last tank. We have a tap from this filter in our kitchen and do notice when the water level is low
I always wondered if sun exposure is good or bad to the stet filtration system. I’ve seen videos of shaded or covered systems, as well as exposed plastic blue barrels. Does the sun help break down the material faster? Does it interfere with the internal process?
I’m curious how long it takes to refill the storage tank after it’s run dry from normal usage. How long is one complete filtering cycle? I know it may be difficult but just an estimation of time if you please.
I watched Josh Kern’s videos and yours. The filters are the same but the water source is different. Their water is either river, pond or well water. Yours is treated water. You said that it is being treated with chlorine. Wouldn’t the chlorine kill the bio organisms in the sand? Why didn’t you put the activated charcoal first? The charcoal would neutralize the chlorine before the chlorine got to the bio layer, which is in the top part of the sand.
Will the water filtration barrel setup filter out chlorine and fluoride? Is there somewhere to get a list of the stuff that it will filter out or that it will not filter out?
Yes it will filter chlorine and flouride The chemicals I would worry about would be the super corrosive kind like those our poor brothers and sisters in Ohio are being assaulted with. In that instance I would switch to cement trenches with overflow dividers of cement too and much more carbon in the trench to fill an in ground tank to act as a clean water reservoir..
@@Kaiwaipermaculturebolivia I’ve been told that alum is a necessary filter media to leech out fluoride. If this is true, which of your media contains alum?
I hope before you installed this system, you had the sense to get your water from raw juicy fruits and vegetables and not use/consume water treated with ALUMINUM --- of all TOXIC things you do not want to be ingesting! Plants can filter out what we can't ingest and provide perfectly clean safe usable water.
Why do you need to put the float valve at the bottom of the tank? Would it work if the float valve would be installed somewhere at the top of the tank, but the output of the float valve would be installed with a pipe which would run down to the bottom of the tank where the bricks and large stones are placed?
Yes the float is at the top water level near the top of the tank. The actual valve is near the bottom, the switch off arm is connected to the float with a string that is inside a tube to allow free movement
@@Kaiwaipermaculturebolivia i meant the whole assembly, including the valve, would be somewhere on top. Then just connect a pipe to the output of the float valve so that it goes down to the bottom, in that way, the water still fills from bottom to top.
@@Erick-Tags yes, that would work also. Easier to check operation and maintain the valve. Some ball valves have outlets with threads for this purpose but they are sometimes hard to find.
Are the barrels expensive there? If not you could just purchase 4 more barrels and stack them and would be back up water and just siphon in up to filter.
@@Kaiwaipermaculturebolivia I probably wasn't clear. Can you just use another barrel to use as the platform, because I'm assuming your just using gravity pressure.
@Permaculture - Quick Question :) When and where did you use the "Medium" sized rocks? Barrel 1 = Large Rocks + Bricks > Plastic Cover and Pipe > "Pea Gravel" Barrel 2 = Large Rocks > "Pea Gravel" > Mesh > Sands Barrel 3 = Large Rocks > "Pea Gravel" > Mesh > Sands > Charcoal > Mesh > Large Rocks I checked the "Jon Jandai Life is Easy" video and noticed he did not mention any "Medium" sized rocks. Just like your video, he only used Large Rock and then Pea Gravel. Thank you!
Another idea for killing microbes without bothering with Moringa seeds is this... With a large rectangular container (like an aquarium or cooler), partition in half with a divider in the middle that has a hole in it stuffed with polyfill. Put as clean as water as you can find on both sides of the partition. Hang a piece of pure metal on both sides of the cooler/aquarium. Using a solar panel or rechargeable battery source, hook up the anode and cathode to opposite sides of the tank's hanging metal strips. The polyfill will allow water to come and go between the two differently charged sides. After a period of time, one side will have water that is negatively charged and the other side, the positive. Scoop water out of the positive side and pour that into whatever water filtering system you're using. As mentioned in the comment below, the proton that you add to the water that has microbes in it, will attract the opposite sides of the microbe and they will stick together (think of a Cheerio (TM) oat cereal), and will make the microbe harmless. I wouldn't put the filthy water in the divided tank. Just clean water. That way you won't have to clean the Proton Water Producing Tank so often. In a pinch, one could just substitute the two Moringa seeds per liter (as described below), and just add an ounce to bad water, and like the Moringa seeds, the stuff floating within the water will sink to the bottom allowing the use of 70% of the water in the now much much clearer water. The goal is to make the microbes harmless. The Moringa seed method doesn't require electricity. I have 70 Moringa trees in my yard and a boatload of seeds. So when the SHTF scenario occurs and I have to drink my neighbors' stagnant pool water, the Moringa method is cheaper and more available and doesn't require a battery or solar panel. But, for those don't have a Moringa forest, the electricity method could keep them from having dysentery.
Interesting again. Should we put Moringa seeds in tank 1? How long can they stay in for? Should it be one seed per litre for the entire system? I.e 4x 160ltr tanks = 640 litres and 64 seeds. Would the idea be to replace the seeds every full flush? We are contemplating periodic use of chlorine dioxide.
@@Kaiwaipermaculturebolivia After you watch the video I provided the link for, if you want to use Moringa with your system, you could consider a final moringa-charged fine sand layer. With that layer the organic matter of moringa would be absent and the charged fine sand can last quite a while so that it doesn't become a pain to maintain, and also by being a late-stage filter it could be the last chance to get those pesky microbes out of the water. It would be interesting to see a comparison of what is going to your house and the same water, but filtered through the charged fine sand. There is a small device that measures parts per million of what's in a liquid. That and/or a microscope could verify that the charged fine sand is worth the effort. A cheap way to prove that moringa works is to take two liters of city water, and put that in two clear bottles. Leave one alone and in the other put 2 crushed moringa seeds and stir. After an hour or so, see if there is a difference. Same experiment could be done with more murky river water. That will provide a more vivid difference. Do you have moringa down there? If you have a ton of seeds, you can press them and extract BEN OIL which costs about $400 per gallon and is used in the health products industries like ones that make lotions and such. Then with the extruded part of the moringa, you can mix that with water (like in the video) and charge fine sand - or you could just add that mashed pulp into a filter tank that you have to periodically maintain. After creating the moringa water used to charge the sand, you can feed the organic matter to your animals. It keeps giving. Lots of variations possible. Start small and prove it to yourself with two liters of clear and two liters of dirty water. Sorry for all the words but I like the subject a lot. - Jim from Phoenix
Hello, thank you for making this video. Very appreciated ✊ I do have one question, could this process be scaled down to one tank operating as the filter and one storage for the clean tank ... Did you elect to go three filtering tanks becuase thats what was necessary or as a percuation? Im in California going to filter city water... Space is a consideration, if you have time to respond, i would be very grateful. Thank you either way.
Hi Aaron, for sure you could do this with two tanks. I guess.it would need to be cleaned out once a year as a sediment layer would form on the fine sand layer i.e. between the charcoal and fine sand.
@@Kaiwaipermaculturebolivia Thank you for the response! My last questions and forgive me if it's obvious but do I need to use smooth river rocks for the big rocks at the base? I imagine any rock will do and perhaps the smooth stones are better for memory but what I have available to me on the land is the more rigid looking stones, Wanted your thoughts on smooth river rocks vs the more clunky land rocks. Thank you again. You got a new subscriber.=]
@@aaronperez5047 give em a clean and they will be fine. Fyi if you find that you have algae build up in the first few weeks of use just clean away the build up (probs will be at the top plumbing connections). This would indicate that there was organic matter in the media. The algae eats that so by cleaning away any algae that forms you will fairly quickly be left with a clean system. Say this just in case the rocks are hard to wash.
I have a Q; I'm in the Philippines and our shallow well is very iron rich and sandy. It's dense black volcanic sand and it clogs our pump filter regularly. How will this affect this filtration system ie how do we get the black sand out of the first stage, without having to strip it down?
That is the function of the first tank. The sediment will settle to the bottom and there is a flush valve. So just with periodic flushing should be good as gold
@@Kaiwaipermaculturebolivia Hehehe I've heard of service with a smile, but I get a heart! Thanks.... I have just sold my wife on this after she's just had a hard day teaching, so I'll get busy sourcing materials, especially the barrels... The rest is definitely ok here. I've got a cunning plan to use the output from our well pressure tank (52psi)/32psi) into stage 1, by using a half inch inlet pipe with a ball valve so as to regulate the inflow. If you think that's not a good idea let me know; we are paying around $10 a week on distilled bottled water. Right now we only use the well for showering and washing dishes, plus watering plants. I suspect that this filtration system will recoup that in a few months. Many thanks for the quick reply.
So I’m curious….. how much would it take to build a filter in the center of the community? Say a drinking well of sorts so anyone could stop by and fill up? Your house was $250 ish? So perhaps $500? I’m interested in facilitating this for the locals
That would be amazing wherever that is. At the community center US$500 would pay for the materials, labor required and one years connection to the town water (which needs to be filtered).
@@The-Collapse-of-Civilization no probs with that as the kids aren't making a tight seal. An issue we have had with air sometimes is if you make the top exit hole too high up the barrel the plumbing will point up a little. If the system drains without constant input water it can cause an airlock in that elbow. Best to make the top outlet holes lower on the barrel to avoid the top curve inwards towards the rim. Hope that makes sense.
@@The-Collapse-of-Civilization water will always find it's level. If the filter is working properly it will filter at a fast drizzle. You won't need high pressure to push.
Dam its nearly impossible to find things that are non toxic to use 😢 I wonder 🤔 if making cobb or clay barrels would work and not crack ? How are you guys filling these ? How are you guys replacing the filters ? How often?
@@Kaiwaipermaculturebolivia I think you've already done that pretty efficiently on this already posted vid. What I'm requesting, is the frequency of replacement of each specific filter component, eg. How often should we change the charcoal, how often, the sand, how often, the gravel, etc. If you could furnish the details for those, it would be really helpful. Thanks for responding so quickly, appreciate it
@@Kaiwaipermaculturebolivia I sure hope so, and thanks as I had planned to put this is for rain water and also considering drilling a well by hand myself, Praying it turns out ok
Thanks for spreading a choice for people. You did a good video and easy with good detail . I will recommend others to watch your video. It will be a lot easier when English speaker explain how to do it.
Thanks for the kind words Jon. In reality your video is so easy to follow and we'll made that, any other, even a copy, merely seems like a poor sequel. We really enjoy your philosophy too. Much love, J&S
J&S, love the video, and now I am a fan, as I am a fan of Jon.
Jon, you’re video is very easy to understand and follow. I worked in the water and wastewater field for years and love videos of home made water filtration system and how to make active carbon.
I would love to see video of adding UV lighting powered by solar cells on the final tank where the activated carbon or an additional fifth tank. Also the solar panel placed on top of the tanks help shade, cool, and prevent BPA leaching into the filtered water. The carbon helps prevent that, but I believe cooling helps maximizing its efficiency.
Great job all
Hey Jon, from Australia. I'm pretty sure I left a comment on your video about how good your design is 👌 & It's really good to see other people copying your filter design & paying tribute to you & your community. I hope you are all doing well! 👍
Jon, I have watched your videos many times. I appreciate them. I've been gathering the pieces for both the filter and steel barrels for making my own charcoal. Your English is great. Thank you all.
Jon, I've seen your video too and it is wonderful! The more we share our knowledge the better.
Idea for you. When they make purified sand they basically torch it it in a metal drum rotating the drum of sand and burn the sand which turns bugs, parasites, debris to dust leaving the sand almost white. Sift over a fine screen leaving just the sand, and a much better filtering sand.
More of a pat on the back video than a real informative one on how to build a water filter system. So on that note, good job with the community help.
Well done . Serving your community with hopes of clean water for all. A Kiwi's Boys dream for the world..
Thanks 4 the video, great job!
An advice: in order to use all the volume of the filter you need to cut the excess of the screen: the flap of the net on the barrel wall is a shortcut for the water!!!!!! In the video, showing the filling up, the flow can be seen on the wall.
Having worked with water treatment standards, I'm concerned about the use of bike tires as gaskets. You should really be getting rubber that's rated for drinking water instead of just recycling bike tires. Aside from that this looks like a really cool project!
Good one Jay. A non leaching silicon would suffice as the gasket doesnt actually cime into contact with the water when used in unison with silicone
right behind you is a roof fit guttering and down pipes with dump valves and water every time it rains ,lived on tank water a long part of my life here in AU and TPNg with the dump valve it puts the first of the a water on the ground thus removing droppings and dust and whatever plus a sieve with fine mesh on the tanks secondary filter .as a Kiwi you would be aware of this ,other tip use geo clothe as the filtrating medium as it lets through water but not silt ,reason used inland scapeing and other works
Che bro, we are in Bolivia and cant easily get geo cloth but sounds good! Our roof above is tiny and 4 sided. Could set it up to collect water. Have done for a friend with a bigger roof in a nearby city. Here we get so little rain for such a short season that it wouldn't add much to it. We do harvest rain water into 3 swales and have a well.
Thanks for sharing!
Actually anciant Chinese has been using this method for thousand of years,
my grandpa old house & the whole village have filter similar like
these, but most of them was all in one big clay jar, not four
buckets(which is more advanced), inside also big and small rocks, sand,
screen, cloth and charcoal, to filter water from wells.
Hey! Love 💗 lovely from Africa. I saw the video too and I wanna try it myself too.
Wishing you well 😃💕
Great video! Not that I have built anything like you did. But I thought it might be a good idea to use a bucket custom cut to fit over float value lever so it could move freely. Put some holes in it and rocks on it so it wouldn't float up. Mount a pipe to it for the string line and float ball. Or spend $500 on a water softener.
Ola, Kia Ora and Talofa lava. Im living in Akatarawa NZ off grid using stream water. Thank you for the guide in particular the detailed parts in your vid. Starting this project tomorrow. Holla if you need parts, happy to send to help your community. You two rock! X
Arohanui and alofa atu.
Che cuz. If you happen to go to Bolivia give us a jingle
Did you get it done ok?
Greetings to Bolivia from Wallachia
You have a nice filtration of water almost the same as we do here in Europe in solitary places where there is no drinking water, but if your friend from Germany helped you I am not surprised, we have Germans as western neighbors I have similar filtration only smaller for rainwater as utility free i.e. before they introduce taxes even for water from the sky 😄 I have all layers in one container separated from each other by geotextile, filtered water then I store in IBC containers, I just don't have a settling valve in the gravel layer but I will finish it 😃 for me it was probably the hardest to wash carefully all the material before it was inserted into the filter, the plan is a replacement filter so that when the first one is clogged it switches to the second one by turning the valve and the first one is repaired 🥺 I wish you a lot of successful projects all the best.
Standy
Washing the materials did take time.
@@Kaiwaipermaculturebolivia 😂 🤏 👍
This was very interesting! Thanks for sharing your experience. 👍🏼
Hi Guys! thanks for this great video. i was planning for a diy for river water filter. your video will help me a lot. hope it will work as well with river water.
will keep you posted on my progress . thanks again. God bless!
If you can generate enough electricity to run two dehumidifiers and a humidity gauge the water at they collect just needs a tank to run into
AWESOME 😆 THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS AND FOR ALL YOU ARE DOING TO HELP OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS THERE WHERE YOU ARE 💯💯💯 GOD BLESS☝👐☝
I think an angle float valve installed at top of tank, and a pipe run to bottom, would be easier to access, service, adjust, and replace. Just a union on the fill tube will prevent having to cut the pipe during replacement. Also, using old cotton tee shirts with the mesh would protect the layers from mixing better. Just some thoughts. I really liked the video.
Thanks a lot I’m trying one with the flower pot I seen a guy do it it seems to be I got a little bit out of it you take a flower pot and then put a cork or a piece of wood in the bottom and let it drip through like a Berkey called a ceramic filter
Seems to work pretty good it does filter water but it’s pretty slow
Thanks!
Wow Terry, you rock! Let us know if you have any questions. We'd love to help
I noticed that your charcoal wasn't all ground down into fine dust and there were lots of chunks/pieces in there. My understanding of charcoal filtration is that it is only as effective (and long lasting) as how fine you are able to make the dust. Did you know that a cup of fine charcoal dust has enough surface area to cover one acre? THAT is how effective filtration works because the huge surface area can bond with a high volume of nasties (heavy metals, etc). So unless you grind it down fine enough, (a) most of the charcoal content is not going to actually touch the water passing through the container (so not a very effective filter), and (b) the filtration effects that you do get will not last that long because most of the charcoal is being wasted. Next time use a pestle and mortar to grind each piece down into fine dust and then it will be almost like a shiny paste when you activate it with the acid. For a few hours more work, you'll have a filter that works 1000 times better at removing the bad stuff, and lasts years instead of months.
We just did a water analysis. Coliforms are present. They range from 0.5 nm wide. We will add another layer of finely ground activated charcoal to the top as per your recommendation. Let's see how thick we can put it to optimise flow through rate.
You guys are doing great work keep it up!
Many Thanks and God bless you all
Great informational video, and your community looks like it will benefit from your good work. Tops!
Thanks for sharing and helping the community there! Perhaps I missed the part of hamdling potential bacterial buildup found in standing water (i.e. if you went on vacation)?
We havent had that prob as is in constant use. I am amazed at how long water from this stays good if left in a glass beside the bed. If you had an issue after a long time of no use: Empty the inlet tank and reserve tank. Clean reservoir with baking soda, rice water or vinegar. Refill and flush twice the volume of the reserve tank through it with some Cl02
@@KaiwaipermacultureboliviaCIO2 ?
Nice explanation 👌 🎉❤God bless you from India
I have another solution. . . I had a stainless steel tank made of 1.5mm sheeting. There is no gutter water going into it. It fills by the water that hits the top of the tank, flowing into the tank via very small holes all around the lid in the center of the tank.
As rain water is distilled and stainless doesn't leach toxins. . . U have water ready to drink.
As long as the input water is clean from chemicals and bacterias that would work I guess
Thankyou so much! for showing all details so clearly. Nicely done video. I had been searching for how to do my own activated carbon.
Good to see another implementation of Josh's work I maybe being fussy, but I'd be careful with the kind of silicone you use, screen material and the rubber, if it's in contact with the water, particularly after the carbon stage. Great work!
Great tip! It probably doesn't need silicon if that cant be found
What would you recommend instead?
@@littlered55555 I would look for food grade silicone and silicone rubber then check the constituents and use stainless steel screen mesh.
Isn't the Teflon tape another consideration for toxicity?
@@rachelwilliams248 Super neglible at best
Also another reason not to drink bottled water is because there is higher than recommended levels of arsenic in most bottled water. At least here in the us. I'm not sure if it's the same there though.
Brilliant idea and I like the idea of providing for the community . Well done 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Consider painting the cement and put cloth (bed sheet) over it while it’s still wet and repainting it while it’s still wet. Gives it a wonderful finish and strength...
Hm will try that on the next project
Thank you for the lovely demo of such an important thing. What I would like to know is your experience on how the water behaves when you have it stored. What average or max. temperatures and what length and how does it affect the system? Point being a rough understanding on how often one needs rain or maintenance if the water stays stagnant in the 4th storage barrel. 🙏❤
Its stored airtight so I guess a long time. Fyi I can leave a glass of this purified water on the bedside for 5 days and it still tastes pure and has no growths / discoloration etc. That is better than the commercial filtered bottled water we were buying.
@@Kaiwaipermaculturebolivia Thank you for responding. That sounds ideal! Please post more as your experience grows. This is super useful info.
A joyful day to you.
This is very in depth and I hope to incorporate a system like this soon for our own property…thanking you so much for sharing this information..blessings wished…
You did good! Gave me some 💡 ideas for my two 55gal drums. They had food grade peroxide in them so a couple rinses should do it.
I love the chlorine dioxide mention in your video!! Mms is amazing!!!
It's so good!
@@Kaiwaipermaculturebolivia Did you see the newer documentary? "The universal antidote" check it
I have my barrels and charcoal. Most people worry about food but clean water is more important
Both are important
when quoting the use of silicon use fish tank silicon as bathroom or kitchen silicon has fungicide within it and would be bad for health if water from this was consumed. Fish tank silicon has no chemicals otherwise a great video
I have a problem with using silicone in contact with drinking water, there must be a different approach. Would you repair a broken drinking glass with silicone and actually feel alright drinking from it?
Maybe just a super good fitting gasket and skip the chemical contamination altogether.
I’m also a bit hesitant using the plastic drums because we’re not 100% positive it doesn’t contain BHP. I’m wondering if concrete tanks would be more or less safe. Stainless steel is optimum but expensive and here in the Philippines some tanks advertised as ‘stainless’ are actually low quality stainless and soon start to rust.
That was beautiful.
On my bottom layer of my filter i use cotton material but im wondering if mould will grow on this material, seems like it will
Gracias por la ayuda . Dios los cuide.
Thank you for saving a life with safe drinking water.
After how long do you change the materials in the drums?
Just the charcoal once every two years
since your filter is dependent on the pressure of city water, if you don't have that luxury, a supply tank on the top of the hill and attached supply line to the filter you folks have made would be needed, as well as some means to supply the water to the top of the hilltop supply tank
Correct. In our case we would put a barrel on top connected to our well pump with a float valve.
Thank you for sharing this video!
You bet!
Hello! My country(Uruguay) is entering a Water Crisis and I came upon this video. I love how you explain and I'm sorry If you mentioned this ,my english is not very good, in my situattion the water from the tap is doubled in sodium concentration. Instead of 200 mg/L, we are getting 440 mg/L and we can't consume that, and also bottled water is expensive and also starting to scarce because we are not prepared for this kind of crisis.
I want to know if this system is for that kind of water with a lot of salt.
Again, Thank you so much for this tutorial, if this works for my situation, I'll start helping my community with it.
Lemon juice to activate charcoal? Is the process that activates charcoal?
Mate, have you tested the water (End Results) with a Micro Siemens meter? Electro Conductivity (EC)? Any reading over 50 Mms/m2 is considered HARD water.
Would if I had the equipment 😉
thank you so much I will collect those from the beaches
Rocks sand charcoal Thanks fir the info
Will this method remove chemicals, like the ones that spilled in East Palestine, Ohio?
Hi Nancy, those seem super toxic and corrosive. I would use the same sequential system but instead of plastic barrels make cement structures or trenches. It will work that way.
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Hello, very good video, thank you very much! I am interested in knowing how heavy metals such as fluoride and arsenic can be filtered. Some waters have them and they do not alter their taste but they silently deteriorate health. I listened to Simon talk about a chemical recombination of aluminum and chlorine, perhaps you can give me some guidelines, regards!
We have built this reliant upon Josh Kearns testing and design. Also with knowledge that commercial filters use charcoal and uv. For more detailed answers we'd need to research further.
Thank you for this. Will this be good also for rain water?
Yes
Thank you!
Wow. I want one. But ill probly not get it in this life..
Nice video. thanks for the lesson.
Have you send the water to the lab to be tested. To get a report. To remove guessing just how good the system is. Or can it be improved.
The original designer did. It took ag chemicals and bacterias out for 2 years then required a change of charcoal
Bravo.........heads up.......is ur roof asphalt shingles ......or galvanize.......many no be the best water ......test water......cheers
We are using town water as the source and may switch to well water.
Have u tried rain 🌧 harvesting there in bolivia
There is not much rain here. On this farm we harvest rain water with swales and an infiltration pond. That protects our well which we could use as the water source for the water filter
So is Teflon tape safer than Teflon coating on pans? I hope so, as I truly don't know!
If not scraped...
How often does the charcoal have to be changed out?
Seems it would be better to put charcoal in a mesh sack so you can change out.
Once every two years.
Brilliant!
"It's recharging its memory". Did I hear that right? Water has a memory? News to me.
How often do you have to change out the materials because they get to contaminated?
The charcoal is good for two years. The first tank gets flushed periodically from the bottom valve. The second tank can be opened and stirred from the top scooping any fine sediment from it when the flow through rate slows. . Thats all the maintenance required
Great job.
You have built an upflow filter system. Wouldn't a downflow filter be simpler? Thanks
Up flow supports solids to settle at the bottom.
We could put a header tank on it to provide downflow to the system with batch refill of that tank if it needed to be filled by pumping or manual means
@@tomtomate8455 so that it can come out with pressure at lower elevations in case you plumb taps from the last tank. We have a tap from this filter in our kitchen and do notice when the water level is low
Might want to consider biochar in place of activated charcoal.
You can produce your own biochar.
We definitely want to do that. Will make a video of it when we do
I always wondered if sun exposure is good or bad to the stet filtration system. I’ve seen videos of shaded or covered systems, as well as exposed plastic blue barrels. Does the sun help break down the material faster? Does it interfere with the internal process?
I’m curious how long it takes to refill the storage tank after it’s run dry from normal usage. How long is one complete filtering cycle? I know it may be difficult but just an estimation of time if you please.
I estimate we purity 160 litres in less than an hour. Maybe I'll time it sometime. You dont want it to push through too fast.
@@Kaiwaipermaculturebolivia the system isn’t under pressure so I don’t think it’s possible to overrun or over use it.
I watched Josh Kern’s videos and yours. The filters are the same but the water source is different. Their water is either river, pond or well water. Yours is treated water. You said that it is being treated with chlorine. Wouldn’t the chlorine kill the bio organisms in the sand? Why didn’t you put the activated charcoal first? The charcoal would neutralize the chlorine before the chlorine got to the bio layer, which is in the top part of the sand.
They don't treat it with chlorine its actually poly aluminum chloride. The idea with this filter system is the filter out larger to smaller.
Great ideas 🙏
Thank you! We borrowed them ☺️
Will the water filtration barrel setup filter out chlorine and fluoride? Is there somewhere to get a list of the stuff that it will filter out or that it will not filter out?
Yes it will filter chlorine and flouride The chemicals I would worry about would be the super corrosive kind like those our poor brothers and sisters in Ohio are being assaulted with. In that instance I would switch to cement trenches with overflow dividers of cement too and much more carbon in the trench to fill an in ground tank to act as a clean water reservoir..
@@Kaiwaipermaculturebolivia I’ve been told that alum is a necessary filter media to leech out fluoride. If this is true, which of your media contains alum?
can you please share the pipe layout in a picture or a small video of pipe flow tank to tank.
Coming soon
Watch the original videos on the Life is Easy Jon Jondia channel.
what can we add to filter the fluoride ?
Clean, crushed sea shells if you are by the ocean
I hope before you installed this system, you had the sense to get your water from raw juicy fruits and vegetables and not use/consume water treated with ALUMINUM --- of all TOXIC things you do not want to be ingesting! Plants can filter out what we can't ingest and provide perfectly clean safe usable water.
How do you clean the filters?
Where does.the.water come from to fill.the barrels? Is it rain water? What if it doesnt rain?
From the town water and when that fails from the well
Why do you need to put the float valve at the bottom of the tank? Would it work if the float valve would be installed somewhere at the top of the tank, but the output of the float valve would be installed with a pipe which would run down to the bottom of the tank where the bricks and large stones are placed?
Yes the float is at the top water level near the top of the tank. The actual valve is near the bottom, the switch off arm is connected to the float with a string that is inside a tube to allow free movement
@@Kaiwaipermaculturebolivia i meant the whole assembly, including the valve, would be somewhere on top. Then just connect a pipe to the output of the float valve so that it goes down to the bottom, in that way, the water still fills from bottom to top.
@@Erick-Tags yes, that would work also. Easier to check operation and maintain the valve. Some ball valves have outlets with threads for this purpose but they are sometimes hard to find.
You should get a rubber pipe.
Pipe that can bend instead of that plastic pipe that will burst if it get bent.
thanks for video is the water after filtration free of chloride and fluoride?
Yes
a UV light at the tap would be nice to kill any bacteria.
We put a uv light on the 4th tank to be able to uv treat batches but it really is not needed
Are the barrels expensive there? If not you could just purchase 4 more barrels and stack them and would be back up water and just siphon in up to filter.
Not so much. Us$25 per barrel. One on top would be enough
@@Kaiwaipermaculturebolivia
I probably wasn't clear. Can you just use another barrel to use as the platform, because I'm assuming your just using gravity pressure.
Interesting. I wonder how much fermented foods are a part of their diet?
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Kombucha on the daily!
@Permaculture - Quick Question :) When and where did you use the "Medium" sized rocks?
Barrel 1 = Large Rocks + Bricks > Plastic Cover and Pipe > "Pea Gravel"
Barrel 2 = Large Rocks > "Pea Gravel" > Mesh > Sands
Barrel 3 = Large Rocks > "Pea Gravel" > Mesh > Sands > Charcoal > Mesh > Large Rocks
I checked the "Jon Jandai Life is Easy" video and noticed he did not mention any "Medium" sized rocks. Just like your video, he only used Large Rock and then Pea Gravel.
Thank you!
Aka Pea sized gravel
Another idea for killing microbes without bothering with Moringa seeds is this... With a large rectangular container (like an aquarium or cooler), partition in half with a divider in the middle that has a hole in it stuffed with polyfill. Put as clean as water as you can find on both sides of the partition. Hang a piece of pure metal on both sides of the cooler/aquarium. Using a solar panel or rechargeable battery source, hook up the anode and cathode to opposite sides of the tank's hanging metal strips. The polyfill will allow water to come and go between the two differently charged sides. After a period of time, one side will have water that is negatively charged and the other side, the positive. Scoop water out of the positive side and pour that into whatever water filtering system you're using. As mentioned in the comment below, the proton that you add to the water that has microbes in it, will attract the opposite sides of the microbe and they will stick together (think of a Cheerio (TM) oat cereal), and will make the microbe harmless. I wouldn't put the filthy water in the divided tank. Just clean water. That way you won't have to clean the Proton Water Producing Tank so often. In a pinch, one could just substitute the two Moringa seeds per liter (as described below), and just add an ounce to bad water, and like the Moringa seeds, the stuff floating within the water will sink to the bottom allowing the use of 70% of the water in the now much much clearer water. The goal is to make the microbes harmless. The Moringa seed method doesn't require electricity. I have 70 Moringa trees in my yard and a boatload of seeds. So when the SHTF scenario occurs and I have to drink my neighbors' stagnant pool water, the Moringa method is cheaper and more available and doesn't require a battery or solar panel. But, for those don't have a Moringa forest, the electricity method could keep them from having dysentery.
Interesting again. Should we put Moringa seeds in tank 1? How long can they stay in for? Should it be one seed per litre for the entire system? I.e 4x 160ltr tanks = 640 litres and 64 seeds. Would the idea be to replace the seeds every full flush? We are contemplating periodic use of chlorine dioxide.
@@Kaiwaipermaculturebolivia After you watch the video I provided the link for, if you want to use Moringa with your system, you could consider a final moringa-charged fine sand layer. With that layer the organic matter of moringa would be absent and the charged fine sand can last quite a while so that it doesn't become a pain to maintain, and also by being a late-stage filter it could be the last chance to get those pesky microbes out of the water. It would be interesting to see a comparison of what is going to your house and the same water, but filtered through the charged fine sand. There is a small device that measures parts per million of what's in a liquid. That and/or a microscope could verify that the charged fine sand is worth the effort. A cheap way to prove that moringa works is to take two liters of city water, and put that in two clear bottles. Leave one alone and in the other put 2 crushed moringa seeds and stir. After an hour or so, see if there is a difference. Same experiment could be done with more murky river water. That will provide a more vivid difference. Do you have moringa down there? If you have a ton of seeds, you can press them and extract BEN OIL which costs about $400 per gallon and is used in the health products industries like ones that make lotions and such. Then with the extruded part of the moringa, you can mix that with water (like in the video) and charge fine sand - or you could just add that mashed pulp into a filter tank that you have to periodically maintain. After creating the moringa water used to charge the sand, you can feed the organic matter to your animals. It keeps giving. Lots of variations possible. Start small and prove it to yourself with two liters of clear and two liters of dirty water. Sorry for all the words but I like the subject a lot. - Jim from Phoenix
So do the farmers cultivate with Chemical fertiliser or Organic?
Most integrate animals and their manure, but then there are all of the cides...
Can you show me the paper about it?
Can this be scaled up proportionally to service, say, every unit in a 6-unit apartment?
We often have ten people here and it has always kept up. You could easily add another barrel to double the filtered water stored if needed
@@Kaiwaipermaculturebolivia thanks so much for the clarification! More power to your advocacy!
Thanks
Hello, thank you for making this video. Very appreciated ✊ I do have one question, could this process be scaled down to one tank operating as the filter and one storage for the clean tank ... Did you elect to go three filtering tanks becuase thats what was necessary or as a percuation?
Im in California going to filter city water... Space is a consideration, if you have time to respond, i would be very grateful. Thank you either way.
Hi Aaron, for sure you could do this with two tanks. I guess.it would need to be cleaned out once a year as a sediment layer would form on the fine sand layer i.e. between the charcoal and fine sand.
You would know when as the filter flow rate would slow down
@@Kaiwaipermaculturebolivia Thank you for the response! My last questions and forgive me if it's obvious but do I need to use smooth river rocks for the big rocks at the base? I imagine any rock will do and perhaps the smooth stones are better for memory but what I have available to me on the land is the more rigid looking stones, Wanted your thoughts on smooth river rocks vs the more clunky land rocks. Thank you again. You got a new subscriber.=]
@@aaronperez5047 give em a clean and they will be fine. Fyi if you find that you have algae build up in the first few weeks of use just clean away the build up (probs will be at the top plumbing connections). This would indicate that there was organic matter in the media. The algae eats that so by cleaning away any algae that forms you will fairly quickly be left with a clean system. Say this just in case the rocks are hard to wash.
@@Kaiwaipermaculturebolivia You guys are awesome, thank you so much!
I have a Q; I'm in the Philippines and our shallow well is very iron rich and sandy. It's dense black volcanic sand and it clogs our pump filter regularly. How will this affect this filtration system ie how do we get the black sand out of the first stage, without having to strip it down?
That is the function of the first tank. The sediment will settle to the bottom and there is a flush valve. So just with periodic flushing should be good as gold
@@Kaiwaipermaculturebolivia Hehehe I've heard of service with a smile, but I get a heart! Thanks.... I have just sold my wife on this after she's just had a hard day teaching, so I'll get busy sourcing materials, especially the barrels... The rest is definitely ok here. I've got a cunning plan to use the output from our well pressure tank (52psi)/32psi) into stage 1, by using a half inch inlet pipe with a ball valve so as to regulate the inflow. If you think that's not a good idea let me know; we are paying around $10 a week on distilled bottled water. Right now we only use the well for showering and washing dishes, plus watering plants. I suspect that this filtration system will recoup that in a few months. Many thanks for the quick reply.
Thank You
Coupler is pronounced like cup. cup lers or cup lings.
Can this eliminate nitrite and iron plz
I'd say so. This design is based on Josh Kearns as cited. They tested it monthly for two years and found it to clear chemicals and bacterias.
So I’m curious….. how much would it take to build a filter in the center of the community? Say a drinking well of sorts so anyone could stop by and fill up? Your house was $250 ish? So perhaps $500? I’m interested in facilitating this for the locals
That would be amazing wherever that is. At the community center US$500 would pay for the materials, labor required and one years connection to the town water (which needs to be filtered).
@@The-Collapse-of-Civilization no probs with that as the kids aren't making a tight seal. An issue we have had with air sometimes is if you make the top exit hole too high up the barrel the plumbing will point up a little. If the system drains without constant input water it can cause an airlock in that elbow. Best to make the top outlet holes lower on the barrel to avoid the top curve inwards towards the rim. Hope that makes sense.
@@The-Collapse-of-Civilization water will always find it's level. If the filter is working properly it will filter at a fast drizzle. You won't need high pressure to push.
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Gardening too? I assume you are using urine for fertilizer? And compost nitrogen?
Yes we have compost toilets which collect the urine in a separate bucket that can be diluted and added to the gardens.
Dam its nearly impossible to find things that are non toxic to use 😢 I wonder 🤔 if making cobb or clay barrels would work and not crack ? How are you guys filling these ? How are you guys replacing the filters ? How often?
Details in the video
Can This filter remove chlorine, chloramine & fluoride from city tap water 💦 and can we make this at home with pots? 🙏
Yes
Are you sure?
About the chemicals yes. About the pots I am unsure how you would plumb them. Perhaps try 20ltr pails instead.
Can I make this with pots
What is the frequency of replacement of each material in the filter system ?
We will publish a vid with a diagram and list of materials soon (would that answer your question?)
@@Kaiwaipermaculturebolivia I think you've already done that pretty efficiently on this already posted vid. What I'm requesting, is the frequency of replacement of each specific filter component, eg. How often should we change the charcoal, how often, the sand, how often, the gravel, etc. If you could furnish the details for those, it would be really helpful. Thanks for responding so quickly, appreciate it
@@docsheji charcoal every 2 years. Thats it
@@Kaiwaipermaculturebolivia Great, thanks !! 👍
I have a dugout with swimmers itch
Will this type of filter remove the bug
Yes
@@Kaiwaipermaculturebolivia I sure hope so, and thanks as I had planned to put this is for rain water and also considering drilling a well by hand myself,
Praying it turns out ok
What water did you use to clean all the material (I thought the water was bed) 🤔 Isn't that trading one Bad thing for another.?
Irrespective of the water used to clean once you flush the system two times the system should be clean.