Electric scooters destroying oil demand 4 times faster than electric cars
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I use my e-bike almost exclusively for trips of less than 8km. Not only am I saving money and helping the environment, it is much more fun and I get some exercise. Now I cringe when I take our 2 ton ICE car for a short trip. It seems so grossly inefficient.
Does it often rain where you live ?
@@pauld3327 frequently wet and cold enough to make scooting about for most impractical, but I’m considering getting one for my trip to the gym (a recent commitment to my health given I’m 64) as I can choose when I go. I’m not sure, but here in the uk I think they’ve banned scooters in an attempt to make those publicly available (the ones you hire, ride and leave) more viable for the operators?
How do you prevent theft? Personally I can't use bike, since Id have to take it up to my apartment or office to be safe.
Whish I could do that here in the UK. I'm from the Netherlands and rarely used a car back there.
Here it's the other way around. The roads are just not safe here for cyclists. I'd rather not get knocked off my bike by a dozy car driver. ...I had a few close calls. At least my 2 tonne SUV is a plug in hybrid. Best I can do at the moment.
Did you ever heard about rain suit?@@pauld3327
i visited New Delhi recently and the amount of 3 wheeler electric scooters i saw, was unbelievable.
compared to the last time i went about 10yrs ago.
If you had to guess, what percentage?
@@fjalics
About 50%
They have reached air polution levels that are leathal for many people in winter and the number of small two stroke and small four strokes is colossal.
They have to stay indoors seal windows if they can and industry shuts down ...
Like China had to do in big cities the air outside can kill you and makes everyone ill. The Chinese just banned them from urban environments and big cities outright.
India has to go the same way but its a lot harder to change things Thanos style in the rest of Aisia.
The electric cargo bike and powered trailer will be a huge boost while cleaning up city life and air..
Though they still need to put a limmit on that other form of air polution their non stop Horns 🎺 😂
@@jonjosenna5581 i think your figure is wrong . there are 95,359.000 3 wheeler as of Dec 2023
from google" overall three-wheeler sales in India last month were 104,712 units, with e-wheelers accounting for 54% of them. In January 2023, when 70,929 three-wheelers were sold, the EV share was 48%, which is reflective of the shift.3 Nov 2023"
the number dont add up, yes there are many older non electric but the number sold per month is too low to achieve the 50% of the 3 wheeler are electric in a few years.
Delhi can use the improvement in air quality.
I've saved a fortune using my scooter. Have done at least 5000 km with it in 2 years, but not exactly sure because the odometer wraps at around 650 km for some inexplicable reason!
More people should use them for local trips and for fun, and lobby governments to legalize and derestrict them - they might not like the loss of gasoline revenue, but our lungs will.
I saved so much in 8 years, that I was able to buy a Tesla Model 3 last week! Still gonna use the scooter though.
Should be about 136 gallons at 22mpg. About $400 at 2.89 a gallon. Plus tires, maintenance.. at 0.50 per mile, the government tax write-off would be about $1,500 for that many miles on a car
@@macmcleod1188 2 years for scooter. 8 years with ebike after selling cars. Gasoline in Europe is closer to $10 per gallon. Miles not driven more like 100,000 miles, and I have a high paying job allowing me to put aside a couple k per month.
It's for countries without winter only (
@@MaksimSSM not true, just need a bit more energy to run. I've done 6600 km in the last 30 days, in winter, around Europe, no problems.
@@ahaveland Try in Moscow or Ekarinburg 😃
All forms of electric ⚡️ mobility should be supported and encouraged
Yes, but the smaller the better (less input materials mean less mining, and less diesel burning in the supply chain).
So we should still ban SUVs.
Exactly. Then, when everything is electric, you can focus on the most bestest solution ever, but don't hold up electrification anywhere where infernal combustion engines are still a thing.
@@thorium222 I'm saying the opposite: Electrification will be helped up by material constraints. So if we conserve materials, for example by banning SUVs , we'll complete the process faster.
The more we conserve battery materials the faster everyone gets an EV.
@@domtweed7323
Nothing shouts Communism like banning stuff.
@@tassie7325 "Communism is Soviet rule plus electrification" -comrade Lenin.
Thats wild. These things make a lot of sense for high population areas where your average trip is short.
Needs separation from cars and pedestrians. ie bike lanes.
As an American living in SE Asia, I see exactly what you are saying every day. Especially in developing countries, which don't have modern infrastructure, these battery swapping machines are brilliant. And yes, scooters are solving transportation problems efficiently TODAY. No need to borrow billions from other countries to construct high speed trains!
I think a high speed electric train would be a fantastic replacement for relaticely short range flights, but you need real population density for that.
@@fjalicswell yes, but SE Asia has some of the most densely populated cities in the world eg Manila, Jakarta, Bangkok, Singapore and KL.
Yes, I'm absolutely going to go five hundred miles on a scooter. Super smart.
If you want to go from, say, Shanghai to Beijing or even London to Birmingham, on your electric scooter it will take you quite a while. I saw a while ago, that a man was arrested on the M6 for being on an electric scooter! Brave soul indeed!
@@jonevansauthor not going 500 miles in one trip but those 1 mile and 2 mile 5 minute E-bike trips add up quick. The E-Bikes and scooters are huge success in dense poor city areas. PLUS they can be brought inside for added security vs a gasoline scooter.
I absolutely agree. Not only e-scooters, but also e-bikes.
They are not a solution for all types of travel, but they are a solution for short-range, they are a great solution for most inner city travel. And cities are exactly the place where cars are more of a problem than a solution. In a densely populated area cars take up too much space.
In the USA, getting bike for short range riding isn't a thing. Spending 30 grand for traveling just 100 miles to spend hours recharging will not work here
@@Cre8Lounge 30 grand? Try 50 or 60 but then Dealers are asking that much for ICE vehicles now too. If the under $20,000 Chinese electric vehicles ever pass North American standards & are permitted to be sold here, it will mean the end of the North American Auto Industry & all it's sub industries.
@@Cre8Lounge In which diluted world do you live in that anyone spends "hours charging?" Is it the Murdock misinformation empire world?
@@daytriker You can get a brand new Tesla Model 3 for under 30 grand. And a new Model Y for under 40 grand. And no dealer to deal with. And don't forget that Rivian is another American company without dealers. And their gen 2 trucks are going to the in the 50 something thousand area, which is as much as most regular ICE trucks now.
But I agree that the dealership monopoly needs to end to bring legacy prices lower. And I wholeheartedly believe it will end with the Gen-Z generation.
@@Cre8Lounge Or anywhere else for that matter, that's why people don't do that.
We visited Key West a decade ago and it stank so bad from gas 2 stroke scooters we couldn't enjoy eating outside. Electric scooters would (and maybe is) be great there.
This very significant move to electric scooters will also dramatically improve air quality in Asia as more and more electricity is generated by PV panels.
Small gas engines pollute horribly and are terribly inefficient. E-transportation greatly reduces pollution even if all the electricity was generated by burning coal or even by running a giant diesel generator set.
@@peteinwisconsin2496 They don't reduce pollution. They EXPORT the pollution to somewhere else. Both in powering it and in the production of it. If E-enthusiasts were honest about that, then perhaps there would be less hostility from everyone else.
Much of the enthusiasm though for EV-anything is Virtue Signalling. If that honesty went mainstream, the enthusiasm for electrification would take a pretty significant nosedive.
@@Crosshair84 We get it, you skipped science class. Too cool for school.
@@Crosshair84 Let's say your bullshit was true. Would not it be helpful to export the pollution to areas where people don't live?
EVs in the end don’t actually reduce anything. Gas and diesel have little effect on air quality overall, it’s the coal and other industrial plants producing toxins at far greater rates. China is the “leader in green energy” yet has the lowest air quality in its cities and 90% of its ground water is too toxic and unusable.
Agree on more scooters, electric bikes etc. But to make a real impact we’d probably need to drop speed limits on many residential streets in inner mid suburbs to 30k. That’s the speed limit that has been found to work in getting people to feel safe, and having the rate of accidents drop, in areas where cars have been dominant. You can design street scapes to be more bike/scooter friendly and more green and include stormwater catchment too. So this can be a win, win, win for the environment.
Saw a thought provoking post on FB: the reason Japanese city side streets seem to have such a human scale is because on street parking isn’t allowed.. And you see lots of bike riding, even after dark through those streets. Something to think about as population density is increasingly in Australia’s biggest cities.
20mph (32kph) is now law in most urban areas in Wales.
Daily, I use only a bicycle. The car is used maybe once, or twice a week, especially in winter.
Here in Singapore, electric scooters are heavily regulated. There have been many accidents because of delivery people (Grab, Uber, etc) going as fast as possible to get more pay. I personally love powerful electric bicycles and scooters. Simply follow the rules of the road.
also, motorists need to put down their phones. A Harley rider I know says it's way more dangerous than about 7 years ago, because of all the people texting.
Harleys should be banned. Effing noisy nuisances.
@@wyganter I don't ride a Harley. But from what I know about motorcycles in general is they are all designed to meet emissions standards. The loud noise you hear comes from aftermarket mufflers. Same is true for cars.
Easy to solve because their max speed can be limited easily...and without being able to circumvene this limitation.
But this shows that the administration administration is pretty dumb by showing that it doesn't know about that but tries to "educate" people to behave. No education needed when your ride is limited.
@@thyristo Ok. So using this logic, why not limit the speed of ALL cars?
I agree...Like The Electric Viking said this is helping to reduce oil consumption, and I know a lot of people don't like these small 2 wheeled eScooters but small eMobility vehicles doesn't have to come in that form, a better design should be looked at if necessary. I have a eScooter and they are so useful to get about on small journeys but unfortunately I have to run the risk of getting it taken away from me because they are not legal yet, and so many others here use them because they are useful.
I can tell you this, Orthopedic surgeons sure love them.
You forgot the e- bicycles. Over here in France you see them more and more.
In the UK, kids were taking them from riders right and left (while the riders were on them!) Is that happening in France, too?
@@AllDogsAreGoodDogs
I haven't seen that yet over here.
The Dominican Republic heavily uses motos/scooters (the sit on kind), mostly in a short range around where people live. It would be perfect for electric ones. (For longer trips, buses and vans ("gua-guas") seem to be used.)
I now leave my Model Y in the garage and commute 5km to work on my electric scooter with a 'pogo' seat attached - very comfortable and twice as fast as the car. No more queuing at traffic lights - no parking fees either. Makes great sense. It cost $1k - which would be 20 week's of bus tickets - so after 6 months, I now ride for free and no more waiting at bus stops. I wonder what sort of impact on a country's productivity ubiquitous electric mobility would make. It has cut at least 5 hours off my commute per week - whether taking the bus or car.
Gogoro needs to enter into a deal to have the battery swap station sat every Walmart in the US.
Not every country has the weather to embrace scouters as an all-year replacement for trains/cars
Wear a coat 🧥. Even in Denmark they cycle all year in 1 metre of snow ❄️😅
@@matthewspry4217 looking at the sidewalks, currently, neither scooting nor cycling is recommended
I think 2 and 3 wheeled eletric vehicles are the future.
My city in the USA is converting some of the streets from 4 lanes to 3 lanes including a center turn lane. This conversion allows for bike lanes. Problem is, during the winter, snow plows clog all bike and pedestrian paths with snow. So, when the weather turns mild enough to ride, it takes another two weeks for the snow berms to melt. Just a small grip I have in a generally positive view of our city. Ebiking is wonderful: hills, no problem.
Snow tires.
@@godemperormeow8591 better yet, electric snowmobiles.
Viking, keep in mind that some of us live in cold climates which have snow and ice on the roads part of the year. Scooters can't be a universal solution for us so then we would be another form of transportation for the winter.
Also that he would never go further than a handful of miles on one, so why is he opposed to trains. It was a weird take for which he's taking flak, quite rightly (and I do like him and his videos).
as soon as sub 20k Ev's hits the western markets its game over for ICE cars what i find baffling is that almost everyone i know that owns a electric car has no wish to go back to an ice car again (only had one trading into a hybrid) but all the naysayers i meet have'nt owned a EV.
Indeed. All those naysayers who worry about range, charging, bursting into flames and batteries needing to be replaced every few years..none of them have any experience of owning an EV. I am nearly 5 years in to EV ownership and there is no way on this earth I would go back to having to buy fossil fuel again even if I was gifted a fossil fuel luxury car.
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
And you should know. I’ve yet to buy mine, I’ve always wanted an i3 and since the 42kwh version came out I’ve been waiting for the right car for me. My wife will use it to commute and I’ll get to drive it during our shared 3 day weekends. We do half a dozen 200 mile plus journeys a year, so a couple of 30 minute stops to use the bathroom, get a drink and rest a while is no bad thing. I can’t wait. Niro is a great car!
How much range would a 20k$ EV have? Even the cheapest ICE car gives you 500+km of range on a full tank. For people who don't live in a place where they have access to parking space power, having to rely exclusively on fast-charging is ludicrously expensive in many places. The lone Chargepoint charger that showed up last time I planned an EV trip billed $0.45+tx/kWh, which is about as expensive as gas.
@@teardowndan5364 If you have a car then by definition you must have a place to park when you are not using it. And why the obsession with + + 500, 600, 700 km range? The number non-EV owners demand from an EV keeps going up, which is really funny. I've owned an EV for coming up 5 years now and its range of 450 km is irrelevant as I never drive for more than 2-3 hours before taking a break to take my eyes off the road, grab a drink and use the bathroom...just as I always did from 1974 to 2018 when I drove ICE cars. ICE drivers keep finding excuses for why they will not ditch fossil fuels and go electric, which by the way is is a big saving in running costs. Petrol here is €1.80 a litre and electricity is €0.20/kWh including tax..and what with no oil changes to worry about I've saved at least €8,000 over 95,000 km when compared to a fossil car doing 50 mpg...and the EV is a better car to drive.
I have had Tesla Model 3 for 4 years now (Sydney). I have no plans to go back to ICE. In fact, I sold my Nissan pathfinder as it starting growing weeds around it. 70% of my friends have Tesla now. In the absence of advertisements, Tesla sells better with word of mouth I guess.
I've owned a Tesla from a little over a year, and I love it! My next purchase is either an electric scooter or bike, I totally agree 🙂
Here in the states the infrastructure is lacking. I ride an electric skateboard to work using sidewalks and some backroads that are not busy. It is a 2 mile trip for me and have fun doing it. But the city is difficult to navigate with only some streets bike friendly.
Absolutely love my e-bikes. Unfortunately I chose to live in a rural hilly area. I so hope the Indianapolis area gains non-car infrastructure. Uts good for local people and I would use it even if I had to drive my e-bikes there to use it.
We bought 'Lectic' a couple years ago. $999 delivered and we each got $300 cash rebate from EWEB, our local electricity provider (which I spent on spare batteries because I live up a big hill :):)
One of the biggest drawbacks of electric scooters or scooters in general is safety.
nothing and nowhere is safe anymore might as well have fun
Yeap it's true nothing is safe,even cops that drive motorcycles with those lights and siren they still get in to accidents.
if there were fewer multi ton vehicles on the road the safety factor goes up exponentially it's all relative i ride a hundred pound e scooter for fun my weight is 200 so im pushing a 300 lb projectile that is capable of doing major damage to any one however when in the presence of pedestrians i can ride the scooter at walking speed and not upset anyone it's all relative.
Because auto drivers don't see them.
@@AllDogsAreGoodDogs a simple law- wear reflective strip at night and light same rule as bicycle
that solve the driver dont see BS
This is a real good one Sam. Really what we need to hear. Although, keep in mind those that live in the more northern latitudes and scooters don't work too well in a foot of snow.
They do work well during at least half the year, and northern latitude roads tend to be wider to accommodate snow during the winter, so the shoulders are wider than in the southern USA.
January 8th here in my part of Canada around Toronto and its curretnly +2celcius and no snow. You could ride a e-scooter today
SKI-DOO.
Yesterday we had some snow... Today I rode my ebike no problem. I'm 73
@@peteinwisconsin2496 folks, it's the traction I worry about. Bicycles are a little different because they have more contact pressure at the wheel. I rode my bike all year round in Vancouver. I even came up with my "bike windshield " for riding in the rain wearing glasses. Hint, not actually a windshield or fairing.
Thanks!
Welcome!
Weather plays a big part in adoption Sam
clothes could be better , even electric heater plugin if you will
Finally Sam. I waited for a long time for this video. Electric cars are good and all, but there are ways to cut emissions much faster
dont breath dont fart😂😂😂😂
I have been ebike commuting since 2005 and have ridden well over 100,000 km since. We also sold one of our 2 cars already 10 years ago and haven't gone back since.
Trains are the most reliable , economical and environmentally friendly transport ever.
We need to put batteries in the Diesel Electrics though!!
Clearly you don’t live in the uk 😂
That depends on where you are. They vary from great in some places all the way through to non existent in others.
Well, depends upon the motive power, but yes. Problem with trains is that they don't pick you up or set you down exactly where and when you want. And that's their limitation. In the UK they cost a mortgage to go anywhere. By comparison, in Europe the tickets are very reasonably priced.
I will be 81 yrs this year. I have probably used a train 4 times in my entire life trains can replace expressways in some circumstances. Suburban to urban commuting😊
They are so useful, literally changed my life having these things.
Cars are good but take up too much space, you don't need a two tonne vehicle to carry one human.
Also in UK private scooters remain illegal because of stupid lobbying and monopoly apart from rent-scooters, but the police generally ignore it cos they know it's stupid.
I own an E-bike and I love it!!. I wish the car companies would build a micro electric car for when bad weather. Ow that's right only the chinese build those kind of cars. The ICE companies can't make any money on electric cars, thats because they only build tanks for cars. I'll just keep riding my E-bike thank you very much. I don't need to go 200 miles just around town.
its too cold here in Norway for comparison, we are having a hard time with a cold right this minute in fact its been colder than usual and ive driven past alot of electric buses and a few smaller electric cars that gave up, noticed even my phone charge isnt doing so well outside, its been minus 22 celsius.. we love going ev but in the harshest of colds ICE still has alot going for it..🥶
Electric scooters do have an important role to play - but here in the UK, the users create havoc - no training, no insurance and users who drive them flat out on roads, footpaths, shopping centres, parks.......... terrorising pedestrians. Government urgently needs to review the rules and regs, communicate and enforce the rules to ensure safety for everyone.......
For middle to long distance travel, trains are superior actually. Electrical mopeds and bikes are viable within cities and towns, but if you want to go further, you need other means.
Yeah essentially you scoot around until you reach a train station, take that for fast travel on long distances, get off and do the last mile with the scooter again. That is especially true when you have high speed trains which are twice as fast as cars or inside cities where linear subway lines are faster than getting stopped by a million traffic lights. Cars are #1 in terms of suburban environment and small towns but they get progressively worse the higher the population density.
@@Arathreas You should see what they are doing with Teslas in NYC.
Great video Sam, electric scooters are clearly a game changer, particularly in crowded cities and lower income countries. Can’t agree with you about trains though. Rapid mass transit will remain an absolute necessity, especially for longer journeys (say over 20 Km).
We’ve replaced 1/4 of our annual car miles with our ebikes. Great for around town use. Less stop and go miles on cars helps them last longer too.
Absolutely would love more videos about electric bikes
Awesome vid Sam!! You validly point at an inexpensive technology that drives the petro industry bonkers! As a midwestern resident in US in a red state I can say the fees collected by republican run states are obscene as are the rules regarding legalizing scooter utilization on the roads. Do we really need the dark age relics in charge still?
The problem is the security of scooters and e bikes. Too many thieves will steal them.
Yes you should talk about them way more often... + Ebikes have no impact on roads. My first ebike paid for itself in 8 months and my daughter And I super enjoyed traveling on it.
I'm in Kaohsiung, Taiwan at the moment. Scooters are everywhere. I've seen the battery swapping station. The Mass Rapid Transit & High Speed Rail play a crucial role in moving a vast amount of commuters around. Public transport help reduce the amount of vehicles on the road.
Use an e bike for any journey less then 40km round trip. It can still be a struggling here im Edmonton for snow removal in the winter and reallly a tough sell even to myself not to drive ( i have about an hour ride to work) when temperatures plummet into the -30s like they will next week. I do however think micro mobility should play a large role in the future as well as accommodating transit. The small escooter is really easy to carry onto a tram , train , or bus , and connect you to your end location
here is a fact. I live in eurponand in Spain the driving schools are having a hard time making a living because people are not getting their driver license and just riding around on scooters. same for mallorca and ibiza. it is too easy to get around with a scooter than trying to find a parking space and getting tickets and paying gas insurance and tax and inspection . the scooters in Spain have little regulation so they go very fast. up to 70 kmh. with city street speed limit at 50kmh. it is a great choice for young people. not car no extra hassle and money. scooter is 500 to 700 euro for a fast one and no registration needed. only 20 euro a year insurance . less people driving cars . I went to Rome last summer and it was so quiet there so many electric scooters and cars the city is real quiet without all the real loud vespa scooters and such , huge change in Europe
Was just in Ho Chi Minh City/Saigon [what the locals still call it] and the scooters are like a river in the streets with cars and buses like boulders being both swept along by the flow are obsticals to flow around. There wouldn't be room for cars. So eScooters are the perfect way to end oil as soon as possible.
Where I live, I wouldn't want to drive without protection from the elements for about half the year. Using a bicycle in the rain is far from pleasant and ludicrously dangerous in winter with snow, slush and ice.
Don't you use winter tires with spikes? I remember when I was young 60 years ago, we used chains on the front wheel.
@@leiflillandt1488 If studded tires are only legal from December through March due to road wear concerns, I doubt seasonal chains which are much worse for road wear and the risk of flinging things up including themselves are still allowed.
I want people to understand this simple FACT. The FACT is that without Petroleum, you would not have the materials necessary to build EVs. Without coal, you would not have Carbon Fiber either. Let That Sink In.
Thanks for highlighting this issue, Sam as electric cars have been getting most of the attention, but to a vast majority of the world, micro-mobility solutions are the best and will have the greatest impact on reducing our reliance on fossil fuels. We should not just replace every gas car with an electric car. Rather we should be expanding public transit and micro-mobility options. Thanks for covering such important topics.
I think they make a lot of sense in urban areas. I love getting around on a one wheel however only 6 months of the year in Canada. Some sort of e mobility for the winter would be fantastic
Off the highway viechle. Like ATV style EV is good. K car is pefrct fit. You aint get heater or AC, but you get a roof shelter you from element
Got one! It is a fair weather short trip machine here in Canada. Have a scooter so must stand for long rides and stick to asphalt surfaces. Standing is surprisingly tiring after 10 minutes.
My EV is an electric bike. Remember that scene in "ET" where the children take off into the sky on their bikes?? That is EXACTLY how I feel when I ride my electric bike. I have been riding it for a couple years now. Maybe Viking (or viewers) could tell me why the electric bike batteries seem to quickly degrade, such that I don't get the same mileage per charge. It could be because as time goes along, I enjoy going faster and faster? :):) I ride my regular bike TWICE as much as my electric one.
It sounds like you like the electric but you ride the normal one more often? Is that because the electric got you back into cycling and you got fitter?
As for the battery, electric bikes have lower quality batteries and afaik don't have cooling and heating systems as cars do. Whether or not there are better quality batteries with smarter management available I couldn't tell you but future battery chemistry will likely make them last longer. You might also be hurting your battery if you're not keeping it and charging it in optimal conditions (e.g. should it be warm when you start out, should it be charged to 100% etc etc).
@@jonevansauthor . I enjoy the total freedom of a regular bike and have been riding frequently forever. They are much lighter. I live up a very big hill so I arrange my regular bike rides around my GF's swimming schedule and she gives me (and bike) a ride up the hill. We put our small dogs in the back of the electric bikes, something I can't do on a regular. :)
I love my electric bike. Fast,
1000 watts, fat tires, cheap per kilometer, does 24 km round trip to work with plenty of battery to spare and very comfortable... except when it rains. I crashed twice in a span of 5 days.
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The problems we've had with electric scooters (the stand on type) here in the UK is that people riding them aren't insured, so no recourse if they damage you or your property and also the inconsiderate use of them around pedestrians, particularly on pavements (sidewalks). I think if we want to legalise them, any that can go faster than a quick walking pace would need mandatory third party insurance.
I live in the uk, in my area quite a lots of e scooter user, what cause danger and damage is (i seen a few time already) when the see police car, they all scramble every direction to get away. e scooter is no more danger or cause more damage than a bicycle
@@jetli740 I have had an escooter overtake me in my car when I was doing 30 MPH. I've NEVER had a cyclist do that!
I ride my e bike about 18 miles a day in all kinds of weather thay work great
This is good news! ICE scooters might not have room for emission equipment so they might be heavy polluters; living in the desert southwest of the US, I still see an occasional 2-stroke ICE scooter.
I'd like to see another video on e-bikes. I think I saw that sales of e-bikes here in the USA outsold EV cars. Even though I have an EV, I've been considering an e-bike for short errands. Thanks for another good video. I watch these in the morning to get the day off to a positive note.
Sam, I think you are right on point, and electric micro-mobility can reduce gas consumption faster than electric cars. It less costly to add an e-bike or e-scooter to your fleet than to replace a fossil car with an EV.
IDK about eliminating trains and using their track right-of-way for scooters. Although this has been done for abandoned railways in the US, if all rail was eliminated how would freight be delivered?
Yes, I thought it was silly just for passengers and the fact this thing called 'distance' exists but freight is an exceptionally good point. What destroyed Americas infrastructure was ripping up railways. It hurt the UK too - people are still upset about the closures of smaller lines 60 years ago.
I got a big electroc Scooter 45 km/h) a Honda Forza 125 ccm for big range and a car. We use the Methode of tramsportation depending on distance an weather consutions... Greetings from Germany
Trains are reasonably efficient for what they do. They also protect you from the elements. But yes we should have more small electric personal vehicles. Step over small wheeled e-bikes are also nice.
That train take is utterly ludicrous
the great thing in China is that they have lanes in almost all cities for the ebikes, about 8' wide for all those ebikes. They don't get run over by the crazed car drivers as much that way. Works great for small trips.
Yes. Used to live in Beijing. Bike lanes are great there. Totally segregated from cars and trucks.
Your comment highlights that it can be done. Just put in a comment about five minutes ago good to see how it’s going in China. Thank you.
Cost continues to be a significant factor in the transition to EVs. The average person cannot afford Tesla or other EV. Small vehicles like scooters, or motorbikes that use swapable batteries make sense, especially when they are very affordable. This trend needs to be encouraged and supported by national and local governments. Imagine the creation of special lanes with support for such vehicles, especially in urban environments. For short trips where a person doesn't need to carry much this is the answer. Even in harsh environments, small three-wheeled vehicles with small cabins would function as well. I never thought such vehicles could make such a big difference. Thank you for bringing this up; I hope you keep following this trend.
As soon as spring arrives in my part of the world (northeastern U.S.) I'm getting an electric scooter of some kind, whatever I can afford. I spend $100/month on gasoline right now, hoping to cut that in half by scooting to the store rather than driving 😇
Get an E bike and cut your gasoline by 75% I use to spend 60 to 80 dollars a month on gas now I only spend maybe 20. Everyone says you can't ride in the cold but dress warm and you won't have to much problems.
@@glendavisl-p3w Hope so. My main concern is motorists. I am a lifelong cyclist but I have been staying off the road in recent years -- too many distracted drivers.
As a person in my 70s I don't see myself zipping around on an electric scooter any time soon
My uncle is 75 years old and he rides around everyday on his electric motorcycle, thou he only goes home to pub and pub to home mostly... :D
@@Argoon1981
Save the planet while drinking and driving
oh you have to try before you kick the bucket, it maybe something you probably enjoy or help with get to the shop at 1/2 tthe time.
72 here and live on my 2 wheel electric scooter. It rocks!
@@jetli740
No, its OK.
I prefer to walk to the shops and really help the planet rather than pretend by using another form of transport.
I ride my electric scooter for pleasure along bike . My grandkids join me on some of these trips on their Escooters, and my partner accompanies us on her electric bike we all enjoy our outing and stop many times to enjoy the views along the riverside We can ride all the way into the city on a bike path and only crossing roads occasionally at light controlled points. It makes for a pleasurable trip mostly away from traffic. In Perth, the bike paths are even along the offside of the Freeways so you can travel a great distance without encountering a main highway. There are many bike paths and are well-used.
We bought a electric cargo bike in 2023 for our small buisness and use it a lot for smaller trips instead of our old diesel van.
Saudi Arabia cut an additional 1 million barrels a day, on TOP of the OPEC cuts, and it didn’t move the needle on crude prices. Part of that is production, but a lot of that is dropping demand
Meanwhile in IRL:
"World oil demand is on track to rise 2.3 mb/d to 101.7 mb/d in 2023."
"Global 4Q23 demand growth has been revised down by almost 400 kb/d, with Europe making up more than half the decline."
"Europe, Russia and the Middle East account for most of the adjustment. Europe is particularly soft amid the continent’s broad manufacturing and industrial slump."
"China accounts for 78% of this year’s increase."
Not much real life stuff from Sam .. mostly fantasy
Agreed, my daughter uses her electric scooter on her University campus travels. Electric bikes also help. I remember going to China years ago, & 2 cycle engines were heavily pervasive. These small electrics do not require nearly as much from utilities as an automobile. She charges her scooter in her dorm room. The existing infrastructure is more ready for electric scooters than automobiles. Electrics are good for local travel.
Wow, I agree with you. I'd love to use a scooter or ebike but it' s not safe where I live in Florida. There are no dedicated roads and only one trail in Sarasota. It would be fun to boot around downtown and to the beaches on these and for sure would declog the roads and vastly reduce pollution. I figure 25% waste of fuel idling with a/c running and driving at slow speeds with gas cars. You can smell the old clunkers too, awful. Way less parking space required too. Older people will find it impossible to use for the most part and we have millions in Florida. I'm up there too but still very mobile
In the summertime, my wife and I love to use our electric skateboard and scooter. It is far too wet or icy in the winter to use them.
An underrated form of PEV is the Electric Unicycle (EUC). While there is a small commitment to learning a new skill required (making it less useful for public hire schemes), there are many benefits. Range of even the smaller/lighter wheels is 50-100km from a charge. When you get to your destination, just wheel it around like a small suitcase with a trolley handle (rather than locking it up and hoping it isn't stolen). Smaller and more discrete on board public transport or out of the way in a cafe. And fun! Still waiting for the Victorian government to stop kicking the can down the road though...
Before COVID and working from home, I would commute on my EUC (Kingsong 16X).
Trains work fantastic in tandem with escooters. The escooter solves the last mile problem. My one colleague here in NZ that uses the train can only do so because his escooter takes him the 7km to the train station.
Going on car free almost two years ago, and my future “car” might first be an EV bike or scooter. Living central to amenities it’s been really easy to go car free, especially now that my kids are away at school. Further, it’s easy to get a car share or rental if I need a car.
I see a lot of vacant, weed infested land along side railway tracks. This should be duel use for electric bikes and access for railway maintenance. Bikes and scooters are much safer to ride when not mixed with cars. I have often thought that electric buses would be better than trains on those city lines as they can leave the lines and pick up and drop off passengers at more locations. Like to see a logistic convenience and cost comparison on trains vs electric buses.
Just now noticed your comments very similar thoughts to mine just put one in a couple minutes ago. Good to see somebody else is thinking along the same lines. Thank you.
Some very interesting insights on the upside of micro mobility platforms. Thanks
Tell this to the rain forest where much mining is done for these batteries.
I bought an electric moped in the summer. Top speed 28mph.
I love it it's so fun to use. I really only need my car for long journeys and I feel I'm at the cusp of maybe just hiring an EV for long trips. The winter is tricky though as it's very cold wet and slippy. But I think I will find a way to do this.
It may be worth noting that the countries where e-bike usage is highest are those that are much nearer the equator than Norway for example. When was the last time anyone rode their e-bike in the snow, when their was ice on the roads, or even just during a downpour, which I'l grant happens more often in equatorial regions than in regions much further North or South.
But the Asian super conurbations are largely in warmer climes. I think the solutions chosen are clearly location dependant. From my experience, electric scooters are brilliant up to say a 15 or 20% gradient. Not really practical on steeper than that. I bought mine here in Chiang Mai, Thailand. It cost about $300 new, incl upgrading to LiFeo4 battery. Range is about 40km and it tops out at 45km/h.
That's when you need a micro electric car.
Of course it's no good if the weather is crap, or if you need to carry more than a few bags worth of stuff, but there's plenty of times this wouldn't be an issue. Personally a very small 3 or 4 seater (think smart car) would be a better fit for me. Currently we have a 2004 civic beater that does 80% - 90%, and a minivan for when we need something bigger. I'm holding off a few years to see where technology goes ...
Sam, always entertaining and thought provoking.
Sam, you did not mention electric bicycles! I bought one 18 months ago, use it all year round to check on livestock etc.unless I have to use my ICE car and to date, have clocked up 2500+ kms. Not only saved money on not having to buy fuel, have recouped the cost of the bike, and have lost weight and gained fitness as an added bonus! As for electric scooters, these are vitually banned from public spaces here in the UK.
I'm an old Canadian and run around in an electric scooter. No insurance, cheap to buy, no license, no parking problems, cheap to run and store in my home.
True , i have an electric 2 wheeler, I charge it exclusively from Solar . It has a 110 km range , very useful in congested city use. From India 🇮🇳.
Most people think that there will be a slow diminishment of fossil fuel vehicles. That isn't true.
The reason is refineries. Refineries have to refine hundreds of thousands of barrels of oil to just break even at market prices. If they cannot do that they have to raise the price of the refined products.
Ergo as less and less fossil fuel is used, gas and diesel prices will go down at first (because of a glut) but then go steadily up to make up for the loss in revenue.
As this happens more folks shift to EVs and the process gets faster and faster. Oil refineries will start collapsing in just a few years.... certainly by 2027 many will shut down as they are refining uncompetitive sources.
First on that list will be shale oil from Canada and similar areas (more expensive to refine), then very quickly many refineries will stop refining gas and diesel and will only refine other petroleum products where there is price stability. Gas prices will go up even further to the point everyone wants an EV.
The snowball has just started rolling downhill, it will obliterate the fossil fuel industry very quickly.
Yeah I agree, the electrified personal transport device is the fastest way to shift this thanks to it’s awesome affordability
Interesting idea. Even here in the cold northern plains of North America, we could adopt a far more scooter friendly infrastructure, and dramatically improve the air quality in our cities at the same time. Perhaps we could have some covered routes to help with the problem of snow and ice in winter?
E-scooter is good for personal use. A few States have already had laws on this since 2023. It is still illegal in NSW, but I have seen people doing it in ACT. The only problem is that it is giving the pedestrians a much larger power than before. Travelling power in term of speed, and destructive power such as suddenly crossing the street without looking from the behind of a van, escalating an accident from barely avoidable to totally unavoidable.
The problem with being small is the idiots in cars think that the road is only for them. If I have to fight for space with the cars they need to know that I pay taxes too. If the Karens out there can't give some space then they need to pay more taxes to fix the roads.
Good report. I had no idea 😮
GREAT FOR A RIDE TODAY IN NEW ENGLAND USA, JUST HAD A SNOWSTORM 4 INCHES 😂
I THINK YOUR CAPS LOCK KEY IS STUCK.
Government should not ban scooters/e-bikes but instead create dedicated lanes for them. I just got home where an electric bike sped past me, I'm pretty sure much faster than the allowed 25kmh. The mix of pedestrians and e-bike lanes are a recipe for disaster. These things gets more efficient and faster by the day and I have seen very close calls with small toddlers walking in the pedestrian lanes and these ebikes and scooters flashes past them. It is only a matter of time.
How do you protect yourself from rain or snow or very cold weather? How do you carry groceries? Nice for recreation but at least in the USA it will not replace cars.
my plan is to purchase an electric motorcycle this summer. I have been looking at the E-bikes, and may have one soon, but my daily drive is 21 miles each way. My brother has been riding his e-bike to work for two years. He loves it.
Good idea in mild climates, or weather. Not so good in the cold or snow.
as a driver, these things are a menace to the public roads.
Two points:
(1) Being a skeptic, China is leading the world in green electricity and cars etc since if or when they invade Taiwan, they will be less vulnerable to sanctions etc.
(2) About scouters etc.: When riding BMW bikes 1200cc in Spain for a week, in Barcelona there were scooters(gas since it was a while ago) everywhere. If you want to move quickly in the city, you drove a scooter. At a red light we 6 guys in big bikes would go between the cars to be first inline for a fast start. Here you would get momma on her scooter and her teen daughter on her scooter going between us and going ahead of us when the light turned green. Spain (Barcelona at least) is very motorbike friendly and everyone has probably driven one when young to get around. I am sure momma would be getting an electric one these days.
Love you channel. Very informative.
In Korea I went all in on Lime scooters, everyone did during the pandemic, then they brought in helmet mandates and made it harder and harder for Lime to do business by fining them for users parking locations etc. Im sure it was due to the sudden drop in Taxis, was the most awesome way to get to get around as Seoul has an awesome subway except some line changes can make you go a lil cross country an awesome last mile solution. I would go to Hyundai Gangnam jump off at Sinsa and instead of a Taxi or 15min walk would just blast there on a scooter to review EV's haha love your chan!
This is an amazing and suddenly unexpected thought entering nearly a billion mindsets. We should see it rapidly expand. Wow!
Viking! Love to see scooters acknowledged as less polluting. A great use for ebikes & scooters is to get people to/from train/tram lines, not replace them! I'm from Detroit; GM killed our mass transit and it killed most of the state. Michigan has lost 10 million residents in 20 years. No population growth even as immigrants come in. Just like cars can't replace mass transit, scooters & ebikes are not a total replacement for mass transit or cars. Ideally, car use & parking are reduced to give way to better density, meaning walkable/bikeable neighborhoods that you can get to by both robotaxi & mass transit.