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- Survivors, whistleblowers and experts recount the Boy Scouts of America’s decadeslong cover-up of sexual abuse cases and its heartbreaking impact.
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I am in this documentary and I was still shocked and saddened beyond belief when we had the survivors premiere last night. I didn't think I had any tears left until I saw myself on the screen baring my soul for the world to see, but I did. Seeing newspaper articles from 1923 about pedophiles in the Boy Scouts threw me for a loop. 100 years of denial isn't a very good look for such a revered institution. Kudos to Brian Knappenberger, Sabrina Parke and the whole production team for making such a compelling documentary. I just wish the last 45 years of my life could have been different. 96 days clean and sober today, despite the Boy Scouts of America.
Stay strong brother.
Good for you on getting to 96 days. I can't imagine how hard it must have been to participate in this documentary. Hopefully you sharing your experience saves someone else from experiencing the same and validates what others know they, too, experienced due to the cruel disregard of the Scouts. Your voice matters! 💜
@@heathermccain5064thank you so much for such a kind response!
Good job on your sobriety and thank you for speaking out.
You can do it one day at a time❤😊🎉
Congrats and keep on keeping on! Praying for your great success🙏
Was a scout for over 10 years in France and i still consider it as the best and most formative moments of my teenage years. Feels shitty to see that some criminals may pervert that.
Merci beaucoup.
Yes, I was a Girl Guide in India for nearly 10 years. Completed my President's Award (highest level in India). The movement was very formative for me too! This feels so sad that they actually let this disgraceful scenario continue, and didn't report the criminals.
There is a far more mature attitude in France about sex and being open about it. That helps a great deal when it comes to the subject.
Scouts and scouting as it exists in other countries is vastly different than the culture and operations of Boy Scouts of America. Which is fortunate for those scouting organizations and those involved in them. The international scouting community is pretty great
Were u in the transatlantic council?
My heart breaks for these boys that were abused. My son wanted to be a cub scout but there were no scout leaders. My husband worked irregular shifts and lots of overtime, so I, his mom, volunteered. I was shocked at the number of parents that dropped their kids off with me, a total stranger to them, with no questions asked except when to pick them up.. Although invited to stay, and I sure could have used the help, except for one other mom, I got no takers. I did this for one year and it was a truly rewarding experience for me. My son developed other interests and so his cub scouting and mine ended. Now I am so glad I was there to watch over him and all the other boys! Parents, no matter what, please be more involved in your kids lives. You will never regret the time you spend with them.
I know what you mean. Too many parents treat school and youth programs as free babysitting when its not. Thank you for looking out for those kids.
Thanks for your service and support. I helped rebuild a cub program from 6 families to over 50. We set the bar high and got a lot of volunteers from the parents. Great support and a great program. If the BSA policies are followed it is virtually impossible for any abuse to happen but as you noted, many parents don't help, just drop kids off and that is not responsible parenting. Sad to see a great program be attacked by outsiders. There is a negative element in our society that seeks to attach itself to youth programs. The BSA, in my experience, has done a better than average job of policing itself. Until recently there were no national background checks and even local checks left a lot to be desired. The BSA motto: Do Your Best, is what they tried to do but you can't keep 100% of those people out. So they crucify the BSA instead of placing the blame on the abusers...
Your heart should break for the fact that we STILL HAVE NO JUSTICE . four years and the lawsuit is burried in BS , hamstrung and not moving
I see that of the 2.4 billion that the lawyers are getting 1 billion... The real reason for the class action suit is to make a bunch of lawyers and firms rich. I would suggest that the brave victims find new lawyers and sue the abusers and their estates directly. They are the ones that abused the trust of kids, parents, sponsors and the BSA. Screw those overpaid lawyers and get compensation to the victims.
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Yes. Creeps rely on and thrive because of parents being busy or absent. Thanks for giving your time for the kids.
I just watched this documentary and I'll say this... Anyone who is a part of an organization that has to do with kids and says no to background checks and mandatory reporting, that's a major red flag.
Surprisingly, I had a very inappropriate Brownie leader (female). Parents have got to protect their children from adults they don't know personally.
I'm sorry to hear that.
Tbh, it doesn't suprise me, I remember various trips I went on that were very secluded. Some special trips lasted 4 days.
Scouts and Brownies are clear targets for predators.
Workers should have ***up-to-date*** extensive checks, psychological screenings and training to weed out predators.
The system keeps letting criminals get away with SV and SA crimes. Unless these crimes are prosecuted effectively, history will keep repeating itself.
Yes, GSA has been full of lesbians for decades.
Being a lesbian does not have anything to do with exhibiting inappropriate behavior as an adult volunteer. GSUSA and it's affiliated councils (there's no such thing as GSA) are more than willing to report to authorities,, document, and let go of volunteers when necessary.
@@jbooops9646also Girl Scouts unlike the Boy Scouts always implemented the buddy system so no adult could ever be with a child alone. They were always more proactive.
The Boy Scouts on the other hand = Catholic Church
As an Eagle Scout, this will certainly be an interesting watch. My troop was thankfully devoid of any creeps or predators but it's a real tragedy that not all other troops could be so lucky. I still did deal with some bullying from older scouts during my years but that was the worst of it from my experience.
I too am an Eagle Scout (1990s, they should have given the award to my mother, not me). I was raised Mormon, and I participated in Mormon scout troops. I have really fond memories of scouting. I was never abused nor did I witness any abusive behavior. However, I believe that a lot of the alleged abuse did happen, and I will watch this documentary when it is published.
If you want to watch some podcasts now about this abuse and its connection to Mormonism, I recommend the following on UA-cam:
1) Mormon Stories Podcast - Episode 1639 - The Mormon Church Abuse Hot Line w/ Attorney Tim Kosnoff
2) Mormon Stories Podcast - Episode 1640 - Boy Scout Sex Abuse & the Mormon Church w/ Attorney Tim Kosnoff
3) Mormon Stories Podcast - Episdoe 1664 - Boy Scouts Bankruptcy & the Mormon Church - An update w/ Tim Kosnoff
“Thank you. Thank you.”
“I’m sorry.”
“I know. I know. Thank you.”
From one Doctor Who fan to another: I’m glad to see Peter Capaldi’s Doctor as your UA-cam profile picture. He was always my favorite.
Yes our son as well and we were very involved with our church (not LDS) Troop in the early 90’s. The only things that gave us red flags was when we as leaders went to District events where we saw the money operation of BSA and the increasing bend to culture and less AMERICAN tradition coming from the top. Here in Texas, national headquarters so we saw pretty early something was not right. The truth of a lot must be revealed before there can be real healing. They did not have the safety measures in place even back then because they were desperate for volunteers, basically. There are always more boys than PARENTS willing to volunteer.
Same here, Eagle, never saw any abuse like that, and if I did, would not tolerate it. I was bullied a tad, but that was sop growing pain. The attorneys blow this stuff way of proportion.
@@markbrown1609something tells me if your boy was raped by a trusted bsa leader, you wouldn't think the lawyer was blowing things out of proportion. The number of denialists in the comments is astounding, and explains exactly how and why the abuse happens.
I can’t say I’m surprised now. This documentary for sure may have been hidden for years. Thank God I, nor any of my other scout buddies experienced anything of this nature. Coming from an all black troop, I am gratefully indebted to the guardianship they took to watch over us in our adolescent and former years.
I’ll NEVER forget seeing and hearing the police come to camp on multiple occasions, now this documentary is pulling all the loose strings together for me.
Eagle Scout
‘05
The God that made sure you had nothing of this nature happening to you, is the same God that let other kids be sexually abused and raped.
So yeah, there’s no God. There’s just humans, good ones and bad ones.
Eagle Scout 2009. Vigil Member of the OA in 2011. And I appreciate you for telling us your story.
I was abused and didn't get a cent because I didn't want the camp getting sold. I couldn't sue the people directly either because the crimes were that sick to repeat and have my words twisted about in court. It's nightmarish thinking about all day. Every day I just want to stop remembering it.
So sorry, Nick. Hope you are receiving the support you deserve.
The sad thing is!?This all has been going on for generations.I just wish that it hadn’t taken SO long to get called out.😔
Hearing all these stories made me realize how lucky I was that my troop didn't experience anything like that and we had good scoutmasters.
This documentary was needed. So glad these men got to tell their story and get this off their shoulders. Parents please be more cautious of who the orgs and folks you affiliate your child with. If they don't have a rigorous background check of the adults that will be around your child, don't send them! Also be weary of just dropping your kids off to just anybody. Do your due diligence to protect your child and the environments they are in.
Me too
Part of BSA youth protection (currently in place) is that no adult should be alone with a Scout, ever. Two adults at a minimum are required at all times. Background checks are fine, but don't catch paedophiles without records. They can abuse for years before being caught. As important as background checks is the youth protection plan that the adults are trained on and required to follow. I can think of many youth organizations (little league, school, musical instrument instructors, after school programs of all kinds, religious programs) that have nothing in place. Zero. Remember, the CDC reports that about 1 in 4 girls and 1 in 13 boys in the United States experience child sexual abuse! You've made a good point...parents be diligent. Don't just drop your kids off, get involved. By the way, there have been 110 million scouts since it started in 1910. Roughly 82k of those have come forward as abused. Surely that number is higher as some have passed away a long time ago. However, that’s roughly 1 in 1300 Scouts. It’s terribly tragic that sexual abuse exists and the goal should be none at all. Everyone agrees on that.
It was great to be able to participate in this documentary. Tune in on September 6th, it's a really incredible documentary!
I was a girl scout, and nothing did happen to me just I had a lovely time, and I learned loads of good things, but is sad that not all of us had the same experience, in fact, it makes me very sad that other kids had a totally contrary experience that the one I had. sad.
As a survivor of sexual assault I am saddened and outraged at this American institution that allowed this to happen. The men in this excellent documentary have no reason to be ashamed or embarrassed.
You are heroes. You should feel hurt, anger and betrayal.
You need to be in group therapy. I was for years. It really helps
To be with people who get your stories and can give genuine support.
Bless you all, love.
I was a scout in the mid 70s. This documentary has me feeling confused. Of course I feel very bad for these men who went through all this bad stuff. Yet, being a cub scout then a boy scout was one of the best thing that happened in my life. I've been working with troubled youths for a long time and getting ready to retire. I strongly feel that I wouldn't have gotten through this career if it wasn't for the the good moral things I learned as a scout. To this day I thank my mom for putting me in the scouts. I was planning on being a scout leader for my grandson but don't know if the tarnish name will make that happen. Moreover, I was an alter boy for years and that was a great experience too. Blessed.
Man, you ran the gauntlet with pedophile priests and pedophile troop leaders everywhere. You were lucky, nothing but lucky.
I was a Boy Scout around 1969 through 1971. Unfortunately I experienced being bullied by other Boy Scouts. I was not the only victim. I witnessed other boys as well. It was not the leaders, but other Boy Scouts who showed cruelty and perverse behavior. I also had some great experiences as well. It was a mixed bag. If I could go back in time, I would stand up to the bullies and stand up for other kids.
Bullies everywhere. I was bullied in grade school, but other kids got worse. If I could go back in time, I would stand up for myself and others
Don't beat yourself up with "if I could go back" and such. It's the present you talking with the mental and physical strength the child you weren't able to possess.
I don't believe this was your fault, it was those ones' who had these resources and failed to notice the situation and utilize them for you.
I wish you and all of us forgiveness towards ourselves and healing.
I have been in the Scouts for most of my childhood and I’m so proud of getting myself to become an Eagle Scout and a Vigil Member of the Order of the Arrow. That being said, I am appalled by what the Boys Scouts of America has done to these former scouts who were sexually assaulted, abused, and were shut out by the organization that made me the man that I am. I hope that this documentary will see the light of the BOA. I hope that these former scouts get the closure that they needed and I hope that the scoutmasters get what they deserve. Sexual assault is still sexual assault and I pray to God that these men burn in hell for what they did.
I too am an Eagle Scout and Vigil Member of the OA. I share your thoughts.
I believe you used "justice" in this sentence wrong. The scouts are the ones who need justice the most
@@SarahGrace221 My apologies. Just changed my comment.
I hope you know that it is not only "bad people" that will go to Hell Fire, right?
People that you people consider to be "good people" can also go to Hell Fire, because they don't believe in God and/or don't obey His commandments.
@@Koki-hc3mw There is a reason why fake Christians end up in Hell Fire (lava).
I registered my son to the "Boys Scouts Of America" and just find this documetary. Definitely im going to register my self to volunteer. Also they're asking for backgroung check, wich makes me more confortable but for sure, never leave your kids alone.
These horrible people are everywhere. Could easily make a documentary about predators in church too. Despicable :( My heart breaks for the victims.
There have been MANY made about the church.
This is the problem with unchecked power in my opinion especially in organizations with children.
It attracts people with a SICK mindset and when they have a position of power within that organization especially one that would benefit from covering up the abuse rather than actually stopping it than it's always going to result in children being hurt much like in the Catholic Church
ya i want the documentary abt church predators.
I had quite a few friends in Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts over the years. I really hope none of them ever got hurt.
I knew of one of these predators, Scott Bradshaw. Worked with the guy in 2021. Most difficult person I ever dealt with in a workplace and everything was remote. I heard one time he gave some lady a deadline the day of her mother’s funeral. Needless to say, we weren’t too surprised when he turned himself in for this stuff.
I just finished watching this and I could not stop crying I have a son of my own 7 years young, I just can’t even imagine this amount of pain and also for the parents that didn’t know that can only wish to take that pain away from their child, I’m truly disgusted and sick of these pedophiles taking advantage of places where kids should feel safe, to only rob them of their lives. I hope any parent that is watching this documentary is hyper aware and vigilant of any activities or programs your children become a part of look for warning signs because not only are you their parent but your their private investigator as well and we a duty and responsibility to make sure our children grow into healthy young adults so that they may prosper. My heart hurts and prays for those that were abused in this documentary I pray that you continue your path to healing.
Amen
I was in scouting for over 10 years and was an Eagle Scout.
Everything is this documentary is a real and needs to be addressed and stopped.
I was very blessed to have great scout masters who guided me and helped me through my scouting journey. But no doubt these creeps exist. The BSA is going down hill and it is a shame to see. I do want to recognize the many scout leaders who were just good people and inspired 100’s of boys and help them become men. And shame to those who were involved in this inappropriate behavior that needs to be stopped immediately. My heart goes out to all of the victims.
I come from a family of scouts and unfortunately I don’t think I would encourage my future children to join it’s just not the same.
Well done to you Anthony for speaking out!
I was a boyscout for many years, all the way up to one merit badge away from Eagle. I can attest there were some big, big creeps around, both fellow Eagle scouts and Scoutmasters, both.
Yes I know 😢 and some of the creepiest were ones working for BSA
How many of them did you report?
It's time that the Statue of limitations is gone for crimes like this. I understand why we have statue of limitations on non-violent crime. But violent crimes there should be no Statue of limitations.
it was invented purely to help the criminal because most of the crooks were super rich pale stale males, like jeff epstein who was protected by Harvard
It shocked me when i first heard about this problem with the Boy Scouts. I was in Scouts from 5 years old until I was 13. The troop i was with was like one big family, never once did we encounter abuse like this and we trusted each other. So my troop was one of lucky ones. But i have lost all respect for Boy Scouts hearing this news, what was happy childhood memories has become tainted knowing this organization had predators hiding in plain sight
Yo también fui Scout, pero sólo Scout a secas, hace años lo fui, fue hermoso, y no puedo creer que esto haya pasado en realidad, pero lo que si puedo ver es que fue en otro país que no fue el mío, al ver esto estoy en shock, pero por ello no mancillare los recuerdos hermosos ni el sentimiento que me da haber estado ahí y sigo igual de orgullosa, yo creo que no deberías de tomarlo del lado malo, tómalo del lado que está bien que a ti no te tocó y del lado que hay que apoyar, como buen Scout a la gente que pasó por ésto
I understand completely. But I'm sure your scout masters didn't know of these issues as well. Therefore, as a former scout in the mid 70s; I say...don't let it tarnish your great memories of being a scout. Just be thankful for the experience and the wonderful adults who were there for us, and moreover that we were blessed.
They need to expose the Big Brother/Sister program next.
i'm waiting for them to expose hospitals.......doctors v nurses, lots of ppl very silent
They have not even come close to peeling away enough to see the whole truth...
I live in Burnside KY where the Boy Scouts of America was founded. I was a Boy Scout as a child but my mother was m Troop Leader so I never had any bad experiences. I’ll definitely be watching this as the Boy Scouts are a big deal here.
was in the boy scouts during my teenage...best time of my life
I would never send my child to an overnight camp with strangers because of things like this
@IndigoUA-cam, it’s why careful parents always VOLUNTEER to go along. They do it for Bible Camp, and hey, I wouldn’t just send my boys and girls with some FAMILY members either.
Sadly children are more likely to be victimised by somebody in your family or a close friend
@@MTknitter22The sad thing is so many of these boys grew up in bad situations or with a single parent who had to work hard just to afford basic things and don't have the free time to volunteer unfortunately.
It's why so many predators prey on those vulnerable children. It's so sad that the executives at the Boy Scouts decided to cover this all up rather than actually address the issues
The people in charge of BSA need to be held responsible
As an eagle scout, I heard stories about the adults who were known to be "funny".
What do you mean with “funny”
@@claudia3539 Making advances at the other kids.
So much more needs to be done to protect our children !!
There is a lot being done, despite what Mr. Johnson says. There is certainly more that can and should be done, but I am thankful for how safe my experience in Scouting has been.
Couldn't stop the tears watching this horror, it's horror for the victims . My heart goes to all those poor children,men , I'm so sorry that you had to go through that horror, I wish your trauma would just vanish somehow.
New Orleans Troop 137 is a horrific case with direct ties to North Fox Island and the John David Norman ring that I hope is included in this. It was the blueprint for modern trafficking.
I was thinking the same thing!! And how connected to many boys homes (bud verymile) and of course Francis Sheldon and Norman who had connections to many organizations.
@@deeanngrayson1195 Father Bud’s Boys Farm, BoysTown, Franklin, etc.
@@Canyonradio norman even had connections to dean corll and John Wayne gacy.
@@deeanngrayson1195 yup!
Even though the boys scouts has its problems, I am still proud to be involved with such a great organization. A few bad people should not indicate what the entire organization beholds.
Seeing these men’s tears, at their most vulnerable… truly a sad sight. I’d be lying if I said I didn’t tear up.
i was in the scouts growing up im so glad that my troop had non predators in it. it sucks that across the country some troops had these people in it. scouts is a good program for the youth but these people make it so harmful for the young.
Yes. We have to remember many of us were blessed to be part of Troops that had none of this stuff. In our church troop, not LDS, there were so many eagle-eye PARENTS involved at every single camp out, event, that uh, we realized early that made for safety for ALL THE BOYS. We were watching at night time, not sleeping!
I feel incredibly thankful for the people I was involved with in the scouts when I was growing up. I can report nothing bad happened to me but I do recognize this exists. The only bad thing I can remember was a head counselor for a summer camp who when I reported another counselor for whipping me in the nuts while sleeping he said "well, it looks like we have a queer on our hands".....That counselor was let go and I quit because I felt uncomfortable working as a CIT at that camp.
I’m not surprised. Do the Girl Scouts next
Feminist-run media protects Girl Scouts - that is why you do not hear of the weird things going on there. However God will see to it that they get exposed too.
I'm always intrigued by the decision to cover up. How is it there's never anyone in the room who anticipates the inevitable eventuality of the truth coming out and the cover up looking just as bad if not worse than the initial offense? But over and over again you see companies and organizations trying to cover up what obviously eventually came out anyway: Boeing, the Vatican, JW, LDS, Purdue Pharma, etc... They all end the same way, with the truth still coming out. And I'm just wondering how is it possible there are still people stupid or arrogant enough to think, "Sure, let's engage in a conspiracy to cover this up and it'll never come out."
They just made it worse covering up in long run
I am currently a scout and hope to work for scouting one day, I’m so sorry this happened and I know it is unacceptable, But I will always love and forever stay loyal and dedicated to scouting. These victims did not deserve what happened to them. This makes me sad.
This must have been such a horrible thing for those poor kids to experience. Thank goodness I have never gone to that area. If I had been there, and those horrible things would have happened to me, I would have reported this to my parents no matter what.
Do High School Football next
Whoa! What's gone on with that?
@@shalalala868nothing new . Every sport , every activity, anything that involves a group has abuse in it . Literally anything you can do in today can get you abused by someone. Still happening to this day
@@Dreas_Diaz88 oh ok. That’s so sad!!
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92% of kids get CTE and that makes rapist, drug addicts and more@@shalalala868
I’m watching it and for some reason I feel like the main bald white dude was in on it the whole time. He said “No “ to a lot of great ideas for them kids protection. It’s like he wanted to get ahead of it first. So either he was paid for allowing them to do whatever to them kids or something
These perpetrators/ predators will never stop. They don’t stop lying, and covering up their heinous acts. Why are we surprised by this?! It’s up to people like us to open our own eyes to what actually goes on around us and open our ears to what happens behind closed doors. This shouldn’t be a surprise!
I was a Cub Scout. I thankfully had a great scout leader and experienced no problems.
This will be a hard thing to watch…
This documentary was shocking!!!
THE reason I will NEVER let my son join Boy Scouts
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This is everything now days . Scouts, football, Olympics , baseball, church even , our kids aren’t safe here or anywhere… sad but true
Become a leader so you can keep an eye on everything. My son is going into his first year of Webelos this year and I've been a Den Leader since he was a Lion. My dad was also an Assistant Scoutmaster and went to all overnight activities - my brother and I made Eagle and thankfully never encountered this type of behavior from adults.
I'm proud to be a scout...
Absolutely. There are other better programs now. And whichever one you choose, it’s up to the PARENTS to be there not just drop them off. If YOU are a constant volunteer, the WEIRDOS see it. Too many parents just dropping theirs off, rarely or never volunteer to go on overnights or events is partly WHY these weirdos had free rein too often.
I can't beleive they are still allowed to be operating and that there are parents out there that let them have they're children. I guess money does mean everything in this country.
Nowadays there's a lot of safety nets regarding sexual abuse. I don't know about everything in place but I am aware the adults as well as a lot of youth leadership teams have to take trainings to be able to identify and stop abuse, there are a lot more rules about who's allowed to be alone with who. I have not watched this doc yet but from my experience in scouting, even over the last couple years loads of safety rules have been put in place to keep this like this from happening. I'm interested to see what the doc says about the state of it today.
Just finished the documentary. I cried for those victims. They were so brave speaking out. I am angry at BSA. The main man who continually defended BSA and deflected the issues is still part of the problem. The ex- employee was outstanding. BSA's bankruptcy case was disheartening. And...they continue on.
The shame of this whole thing is that this crime was committed by people long ago and none of them are suffering for this. The people that are suffering are the kids today that are losing their camps and having their organization destroyed. The current generation of leaders in BSA are working hard to create a safe place for kids. I know this is true because I am a scoutmaster and we are doing background checks and enforcing strict rules and oversight to keep these horrible monsters away from our kids. I haven't watched this documentary yet, but I hope it is fair and shows the massive good that BSA has done for this world. This new generation has done good work to build a better safer organization. I have been involved with the scouts for 20+ years of my life and I have never seen any of the negative side portrayed here, I have only seen the huge impact it has had in helping kids grow into amazing leaders and awesome citizens.
Funny how most of these cases are beyond a court's ability to prove guilt or innocent. Almost like it's an easy payday if you cry hard enough.
No not funny! I am in this documentary and my abuser got three life sentences for what he’d did to me and three others!
This documentary is about the abuse that occured in BSA foremost. 82,000+ victims came forward. That cannot be brushed aside. It is not a promotional video. I advise you to watch it and then comment. Trying to save the the program without recognizing the problems was part of the downfall.
We had a positive experience. My son became an Eagle with my husband as den leader. We attended most camping trips and events as a family. Fortunately some really good people were involved with our troop.
As an Eagle Scout, I find this disheartening nine there’s people in the organization that I’ve done this Luckily, my troop never Had a scoutmaster do such heinous thing.
Because one church organization comprises a huge number of troops, this is why BSA survives. It should have been disbanded by now starting in Irving Texas headquarters my home state. Trail Life USA is far far better.
Trail Life was made because the Mormons didn't life how the Boy Scouts opened themselves to girls. If your organization was made due to sexist and misogynistic means arguably it's the worst organization. The Boy Scouts believe in inclusion now, arguably that's good for society
Which church?
I have had a wonderful scout experience and am sad for these tragedies but since then the organization has done a lot and hopefully this will never happen again
So heartbreaking to think the boy scouts would be a safe, fun, and informative outlet for children only to feel the sharp dagger of betrayal! :(
My husband wasn't molested but a couple boys were. One turned in the adult doing this and he served time at Salem Oregon penitentiary. Two days after he got out the boy who talked, now a man, turned up missing on a lake here. His girlfriend was missing too. They dragged the lake and found both bodies with blunt force trauma. As in hit by a boat. The molester was never heard or seen from again.
Sexual predators, male or female, should have it tattooed on their foreheads. That's how you stop predators from going to another group, school, church, etc...
Scouts was a great experience for me and the dozens of other scouts I knew. I never saw abuse. I hope the 82,000 plus victims that have now come forward with the cash settlement get the money they deserve.
I am proud of the fact that I am an Eagle Scout, however, I no longer support the BSA not just because of this but also because they chose to allow girls to participate.
I know right?? Boys need community with other boys so they can express themselves, just like girls being in Girl Scouts so they can express themselves with people that understand them
I agree. They gave up the one thing they told us to maintain-principles
I never allowed my children into this program. I would never allow my children alone with other adults in the woods or dentist doctors offices by themselves. It’s an easy babysitter but at what cost?
I like that Tim Kosnoff is involved in this. He has battled with the Mormon Church in Court for over 30 years due to their cover ups of Sexual Abuse.
I'm a Gold Award Girl Scout with Lifetime Membership - and if you want to see some real shadiness with money - you got to check them out. Same thing - no background check or nothing to be a leader, I cant tell you how many troop leaders embezzle troop funds, its such a shame. Not gonna lie - I'm so big into the scouts that when I have kids regardless of gender they will do scouting. I'm excited to watch this documentary.
Are you insane! This must be a troll
kinda looks bad when you comment this under a trailer with a subject matter like this.
IDK what to think about American scouting really, since I'm from Europe, and although i do know two people that did scouting as kids. I'm pretty sure it operates a whole different way than it does over there. Mostly just parents or previous gen of scouts volunteering over here most of the time probably.
What i don't get tough is these comments talking like scouting is some sort of way of life. I also saw a comment stating about learning morals in scouting. Like he could not learn some simple morals if he never became a boy scout or something lol. I always saw it as a place where kids go for the weekend or vacation if there parents where busy with work, or not being home for a while and didn't want to leave there kid alone home for a long period of time.
I once did a scouting camp, and it really was not that fun most of the time. It was basically just camping with other kids with forced activities to keep you busy. I don't want to be constantly pushed into activities that feel like work when i was trying to relax in my vacation as a kid, and it's still that way today. It just isn't for me.
IDK if these people have been brainwashed into thinking they could not learn basic survival skills, or morals outside of scouting. You can also just learn stuff like that with friends when playing outside as a kid, or by going camping with your friends, family, or family friends. But i know some people don't have those options available.
@Kiritomens I wouldn't doubt it's the same in other countries and you don't know it yet
As a current adult leader in Scouts BSA (there's no more Boy Scouts) I can assure you that every adult leader goes through a complete background check before being allowed to work with the Scouts. Two deep leadership, no adult is allowed to be alone with a scout.
I don't know how Girl Scouts works, but those are some of the things that are required of us.
My heart goes out to those who were abused, I hope for a brighter future for all of you.
Former Boy Scout, here. I'm terrified to learn what I'm about to learn.
It's not pretty I can tell you that
@@krashthrillsman I'm so sorry. I've been in the movement as a kid, completed all the levels in India. Thank goodness, I didn't encounter such criminals. I can't even imagine what you must've been through. I wish you love and peace.
Luckily my troop educated me and my parents about this before we joined. As a result we had zero sex offenders. We all took YPT extremely seriously and one ASM was literally a cop. And you had to be interviewed by him to join the troop. That was the norm in my area. It’s gut wrenching knowing others weren’t as lucky.
Well, I just learned what I was terrified to learn. I bailed at 15 min in. That's enough for me.
I am a proud Eagle Scout in the Boy Scouts of America. But I agree the sexual abuse needs to be proud to the public
Your asshole must be like a wizards sleeve then 😅
I'm glad this is being brought to light. Prayers up for the victims. I know they'll be tortured by this forever but I hope they find some solace in knowing that by telling their story, they will either bring the organization down or force it to change all of its policies for the better.
It did this documentary is filled with truth but also lies the organization now has one of the best youth protection program out of many
@@lukaskubasik1063 What were the lies?
@EricaHansberry the fact that nothings been done is a lie its gotten a lot better but the past history is terrible non the less
@@lukaskubasik1063 I don't doubt efforts have since been made to make things better. But my god, they have to make amends for their past transgressions. They need to be apologizing publicly. They need to make their policies public. They need to do an entire campaign of reassurance that they are making efforts to correct their mistakes and that they will do everything in their power to make sure it never happens again. And though money won't help the victims, they need to pay out every single claim. Not pennies. Round that over 82 to 83k and pay them all at least $25k. There's no amount of money that could cover psychological damage but it's something. They need to make that gesture.
I am a proud Eagle Scout. It is very tragic that this organization did this. My heart is deeply saddened, and I am very sympathetic for the victims! I personally never experienced any kind of abuse, but then again, my parents were very much involved in my cub scout pack, and eventually, my troop.
My three sons are all Eagles. The council they were in was very proactive about the abuse, and it was talked about through all of the adult leadership training and also presented to the scouts themselves. We all were made aware of what is and what to do about it if we saw it or the boys experienced it and needed to tell an adult.
The organization has its flaws and problems, but I had a great experience and learned some lifelong skills I still use today. My sons didn't have quite the same positive experience because the troop they were in was always struggling to retain adult leaders and also get other parents involved. Unfortunately, Boy Scouts of America became Baybysitters of America!
Very sad indeed.
The fact that 82000 victims came forward and the organization continues is baffling to me.
This breaks my heart. More needs to be done for the health and safety of our children - especially for our young men. They’ve been neglected for so long.
I was a boys scout and I couldn’t get used to sleeping outside but it was mostly fun
This just reinforces the idea that parents need to be very vigilant in places their kids go where adults volunteer OR work at, such as the scouts AND freaking school...
Whether it is churches, whether it is scout or any other organization/institution, all have cases of child abuse in USA.
More evidence of predators going where their prey is plentiful while being in positions of authority. And the devastating effects of covering up abuse to preserve these institutions/organizations' reputations. The pervasiveness of this evil in the world is almost too disturbing to think about.
What I don't understand this type of abuse been going on from the very beginning of the Program started. So men like Thomas Hecker knew and understood they could get away with anything. SMDH.
I could not continue to listen Steven McGowan downplay the abuses. I get really mad over it. right now literally stop watching the documentary because it just pissed me off how this man even able to say all those kind of things. he literally gaslighting it.
It is unfortunate that the Netflix conglomerate, their advertisers, and the corporation along with the attorneys "servicing" the class action lawsuit and those representing the survivors will all sail away on their yachts and profit off the stories of these survivors while the survivors fight over the table scraps left after the settlement. There is something deeply and immorally disgusting about that.
I'd be curious how much of the $2.64 Billion dollar settlement will end up going to the former Scouts.
@@marchhare9440 VERY SMALL PORTION. The attorneys will win. Everyone else will profit off of our stories. We will walk away with almost nothing.
These poor boys. My heart absolutely broke for them. I hope their parents feel guilt everyday of their lives. I don’t care what your reasoning is, no grown man should be spending that much alone time with your young son. Some of them even slept at their houses and one mum dropped her son off to a hotel to meet with one of the leaders?!? How is that not a red flag.
Unfortunately you don’t need to do an IQ test in order to become a parent. Any halfwit can become one and most of these ones ignored the signs.
Also, for all those comments saying ‘I was in BSA and I was never abused’ cool, good for you. Just because it didn’t happen to you or you didn’t see it, doesn’t mean it wasn’t happening to others.
Yet you still see them in schools encouraging kids to join them.. eeek
This case lawsuit was won and now how do survivors show they were abused when these people destroyed tens of thousands of files.
Funny how conservatives who were so vocal about sound of Freedom are silent about this.
I gave the series a single thumbs up, and not two. While the information was there, i felt the interviewer was extremely biased against current scouts. He was way too aggressive within his interviews and was practically yelling at the subject half the time. This young man has a lot to learn about objective interviews and documentary filming. A good start, but definitely needs improvement.
It was a fair expose of an organization that had a “perversion file” and swept it under the rug. BSA is a sick org
@@Daymariee as a current Eagle Scout and former employee at a national camp, I very much disagree that parents should keep their kids away from the organization. The sheer amount of training and various amount of protections we have now for scouts is aguably better than any school institution or any where else. No adult can be alone with a scout, there always has to be two adults. Youth and Adults use separate bathrooms. We are notified to make sure adults are not violating guidelines or they are kicked out of the camp. Our "Youth Protection Training" is used industry wide. A few points this doc said in this trailer made me question their purpose or if the presenters are telling the full truth. Also if your immediate response is regarding my motive, I am 20 years old and just have a love for the movement and camps.
This movie is ridiculous in their take that H O M O S E X U A L S are not PDFIles. Yes DUDE! THEY ARE. Literally older men taking advantage of Young Boys. 🤦 The movie was fine up until they started starting saying the Older Men Taking Advantage of the Young Boys were straight. WHAT
Ya most of them are…
I'm glad my parents never had me in no shit like that thank yah, but I can't help but feel so sad for all those young kids 💔Christ heal
Not shocked. The only shocking thing is how long it has taken to be revealed. Happening in South Africa too..
Are they talking about raping the kids?
We had solid leaders in our scout organization, never any abuse, and great outings into the wilderness.
That’s fine but there was still abuse and it was being covered up.
You were lucky.
Have the Gita scouts had any cases similar to this ?
I would like with either my parents or someone as my guardian caretakers. To go camp.
It just gets me angry that reputation and image is put in front of the lives of children. These boys came in wanting to be part of something great. In return, their lives were ruined in the most horrific way possible. It’s infuriating!
I'm curious if any chartering organizations will be implicated in this documentary, such as The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Yes. They were a giant part of the numbers of troops. They had tremendous influence in the organization (I was told this) because of it. If LDS had ever pulled out, it would have been disastrous financially.
Netflix doc states LDS left BSA in 2019
My scout troop was not like this…. I guess I was lucky any camping trips we did they always allowed our dads to go and my dad went every time with me… I had the best experience with my friends and had great bonding time with my father… I have two boys that I want them to experience the fun I had… but now I’m worried maybe I’ll just have to make my own scout troop now..
The organization is complicit and reactionary. If it wasn’t for the law suits, this would have continued. The organization transferred responsibility to the units. The units were run by part time adult volunteers. Give me a break. To the core, they are unapologetic
You should learn about the current Youth Protection Program before judging TODAYS Scouts. Every child, every parent, every leader must take training on how to identify, prevent, and report signs and patterns that lead up to abusive behavior by anyone. I'm pretty sure kids would be safer today in a Scout group than they are in their own home, where statistically, most abuse takes place. Not YOUR home, of course.
I hate to be the ants at the picnic. We HAD the same exact spin about training, that everyone had to have a background check before being allowed as a Scoutmaster or Asst Scoutmaster, etc. back in the 90’s.
@@MTknitter22 I don’t believe it’s the same training or rules.
@@rong1924The thing is, the trust in the Boy Scouts has eroded. There needs to be some outside oversight by law enforcement or something because this organization failed these children and tried to cover up the abuse for decades I don't see how they be trusted to govern themselves at this point
Is it only "safer" now because the decades of abuse and cover ups, and the depth of the cover ups have finally come closer to being fully exposed?
At my troop one ASM was a cop and you needed an interview with him to join. Plus we had an updated YPT packet different from the 90’s. As a result zero creeps. No bullying.
Growing up in Haïti, my experience in the Girl Scouts was nothing, but amazing! Watching this documentary was an eye opener on how the organization tried to seal the truth from the public. These men had their childhood stolen from them. I'm glad they finally found the courage to come forward. To the ones still suffering in silence, I am sorry. May you find a way to take the first step forward. Wishing you healing. 🖤🤍
2013-2017: BSA bends the knee toward the LGBT.
2019: LDS church cuts ties to BSA.
Current year: BSA is spiralling downhill with sexual lawsuits.
What was the cause for the thousands of sexual assaults prior to 2013 ?
This is terrible. Hopefully next we'll get a Netflix doc on abusive school teachers and the predatory cover ups that plagues our school system.
Can understand how frustrated that great black guy must have felt. He was a amoing those who A. abuse kids or B have no problem with child abuse... Stay strong brother amoing the demons