E3 2003 has not aged well, Twenty Years Later
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- The year is 2003. The Nintendo Gamecube is not selling, and Sony wants you to buy an eye toy
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Maybe we should have kept the past where it is
Ngl this kind of makes me glad that E3 folded after all.
A corpse, should be left well alone. Oh, I know very well how the secrets beckon so sweetly. Only an honest death will cure you now. Liberate you from your wild curiosity.
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Cant wait for E3 2004!!!
I was born in 2005 so this is news to me
As a Nintendo shareholder I am devastated by this news. 2003 isn't looking great for us.
might sell my stock right now
@@yasquishyboi902especially before the next console comes out
Don't worry, I have faith the audience will go crazy as soon as Mario starts SHOOTING UA-camS
@@SkyP9812 hmmmm that might be a good idea?
@@noodel3374yea, I hear there's rumors that Nintendo wants to do some stupid gimmick with motion detected controllers, there's no way that would ever work
"And of course, Mario will never start shooting hookers"
The fact that this is a real quote from a Nintendo-backed event feels like something straight out of a shitpost.
I can't tell if the heads upper up thought that their fans were expecting Nintendo to turn their games into GTA or something.
It was the early 2000’s. GTA was releasing its trilogy and gangsta rap was at the peak of its popularity. Nintendo actually was considering a more edgy rebrand at this time, but decided not to go with it.
The “Mario shooting hookers” timeline is closer to ours than you think
@@TheDeadPenguin2237 Unironically need an edgy Mario game.
@@yuarentluckyMario and Rabbids. Take it or leave it
cause it was
You know, I'd rather Nintendo had broken the "Mario will never shoot hookers"-promise instead of "We will never make people pay for a monthly service" one
Could you imagine charging a monthly fee for something that's the same quality as when it was free?
That sounds like something Sony or even Microsoft would do to appeal to the 98%!
Well, one of those was made by Iwata, and we no longer have an Iwata.
Sadly.
Oh god...
Good timeline: Mario shoots a hooker.
Bad timeline: Nintendo Switch Online.
Worst timeline: Mario shoots a hooker as a Nintendo Switch Online subscription perk.
Actually what about mario raving rabbits
Please _please_ *_PLEASE_* make this a yearly thing. It's such a hilarious idea to see how often history repeats itself.
98% of male audiences want to see it.
I very much agree
i agree as a fellow part of the 98%
98% of the female audiences want to see it as well
@@potipotiron Yeah but that isn't a funny video reference
@@aelanarbrightfield6817 It's okay, I'm also a male gamer, and as it is well known - gamers don't look up - so I'm not gonna look up if they actually watched the video or not and assume they did, both getting the reference and giving support from this undocumented side of audiences.
Science should really make graphs on them or something.
I can't believe it's 2003 already, i still remember 1984 like it was yesterday
Litterally 1984
yeah remember the bite of 87? good times
@@Jr837_ like it was yesterday! I was in the audience!!
You got it backwards. It will SOON be 1984
Pah! What is Gen K doing watching hella edgie video games. E3 is too jiggy for ya gramps!
The era where Nintendo was just completely unhinged in their marketing produced some absolute comedy gold
I still miss that but i know if they put that into today many will try to "cancel"
@@skullcandy14785 what
@@skullcandy14785the only things that get cancelled and boycotted now are movies and companies supporting LGBTQ people
@@skullcandy14785 Ah yes, getting owned on twitter. Such a strong method of pressure that surely make everybody cower in fear. At least that's what my favorite influencer said, so it must be true, right?
@@skullcandy14785 Love how "cancel" has lost it's meaning online. Getting one mild insult on Twitter is enough to claim you've been canceled nowadays
"Who ever thought Nintendo was edgy?!"
_2 minutes before:_ "And Mario will not be shooting hookers."
To demonstrate how non edgy GTA is
They weren't lying though
Big late I know, but didn't he say that the challenge was that gaming as a whole was getting edgier? It was a challenge to recommend Nintendo back then because they continued to target their games at whole family (kids) instead of them catering to the largest market, teenage to early 20s boys and men like Xbox and Sony did. It was only when the Wii outsold everything by a country mile that the others started wanting to diversify.
I loved the part where Mario said "I don't shoot hookers" and never started shooting hookers. Truly a video.
My favourite part was when he said "its-a me, Mario" and Marioed all over those guys
@@jacobg1796 me personally I liked when Luigi
@@Error_451 so true!
i honestly thought he said orphans instead of hookers
I loved it when Mario supported sex work and banged a hooker on stage
“Vice City is too violent. How much further will we let this go? …. Anyway, we’re proud to have Resident Evil 4 as an exclusive!”
Killing zombies is totally different in concept
@@westonmeyer3110 I was thinking more having your head brutally severed with a chainsaw right in front of the player or the numerous other ways Leon can get killed. Also, you can blow the head off of the *human* enemies. It’s a bloody game.
Vice City had an implied chainsaw scene, meanwhile Leon can gruesomely get his head cut off with a chainsaw in gory detail and Leon was human.
They're not zombies in resident evil 4. They're infected Spaniards there's a big difference@@westonmeyer3110
Ah yes, 2003, the era where there was a warring states period between developers, Nintendo brings up Mario shooting hookers, and they had a 60 year old radio host announcing the conference presenters. I miss it so much.
The early 2000s were just the best
when you said warring states i at first thought you meant the 2003 invasion of iraq
@@FalteredGreed the 2000s in general
@@rolltideroll8458 Very true
touching is good.
Love how in 2003 Mr. Iwata himself said that he really hates the idea of online connectivity being behind a monthly payment considering it a sc@m... Look at today's Nintendo and how much they actually offer with Switch Online.
Rolling in his grave?
It such a scam, especially seeing the quality of the online experience
🏴☠️
@@h3069 brother
But consider how long it was free compared to everyone else?
It's so funny that these multimillion dollar companies used actual PowerPoint presentations and couldn't even do them right
Have you ever actually seen a PowerPoint presentation done right?
@@factsnfeatures They're not horrible in some parts of academia.
To be fair, E3 wasn't originally a fan event. It was only open to journalists and people in the industry, who were probably used to bad sideshows lol
@@Blazik3n99Sideshows or Slideshows? 😂
It went about as well as every other PowerPoint presentation in 2003
2003: Mario’s not gonna start shooting hookers.
2023: Link commits new and creative war crimes every day. Join in the fun.
To be fair it's not Mario committing the war crimes
/lh
They made no promises on the future atrocities of Link
Hasn’t link always committed the odd war crime? He’s just that kinda guy. Do destroying that one guys pumpkins and that lady’s pots in skyward sword count?
I used to love just raiding peoples houses in that game as a kid. It was so funny to 9 year old me.
But he never lost hope
Crucifying koroks
It is SO weird to think about how only 20 years ago, video games were still new enough that conferences were held for STOCKHOLDERS
By this point E3 wasn't even 10 years old it's not that surprising. The first few were much MUCH worse
I mean, that is what that one slide in Sony's conference was actually talking about, was how relatively new gaming was (and I suppose still is) in the realm of entertainment. It is weird to think about, given how pervasive gaming has become now!
What did they do when the NES was a thing?
This is mostly a press event. There was hardly a streaming audience in 2003. Many people were still not on the net, many others on dial-up. Even UA-cam only launched in 2005.
In 2003 I was only a year old. Now I'm old enough to drink alcohol.
"Solid Snake will be back in Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater"
Out of the 16-24 hours of total gameplay in MGS3, Solid Snake never appears even once. Hideo Kojima is not a man you wanna upset bro.
He does appear in Snake vs. Monkey 😄
He lied as naturally as he breathed
16-24 hours? the game is only like 12 hours long, 3-4 hours once you get to know the game and you're skipping cutscenes
@@spagootest2185 depends on whether you're speed running or 100%ing it. Besides, the ladder part was pretty long yo
@@mbrillon765and that's only in the PS2 version as the 3DS never has snake vs monkey
You can just tell how early 2000's it all is with that editing and music choices
The slide shows look like something a middle schooler could make today
I genuinely thought those fonts were only used in memes (I was born in 2006)
I’m freshly 18 (so I basically just popped out of the womb) and the editing is shit I only see in memes. High quality content tbh.
@@h3069 today? Yeah no we were doing this in like elementary school back then. Middle schoolers now could probably make something way better
I'm pretty sure the Google-presentations I made for my assigments last year were more dynamic than this, and that's bizarre to say out loud.
I am glad RT is branching out into modern video game journalism.
I'm super excited for Pikmin 2! I sure hope they keep up with this quick and consistent sequel releases!
I'm sure we will have at least 4 games by 2010
This comment made me look up how many pikmin games there are. They really gave us one per decade after 2 came out. Pikmin 2 in 2003, pikmin 3 in 2013, pikmin 4 next month in 2023. Absolutely incredible.
I'm sure they keep it as consistent as the release schedule of Bethesda.
@@SolomonCaineReaper I mean as Froggy pointed out it's legimately *incredibly* consistent. One game a decade for 3 games in a row.
@@froggy5748you forgot the 3DS game
I think the "Mario will never start shooting hookers" line was more of an attempt to imply that Mario and Nintendo don't need to go the route other companies had gone, and remain mostly kid friendly.
But it really should have been worded like this: "There's no need for Mario to get violent, he can do just fine on his own." or something like that.
The irony of suggesting Mario won't get edgier in the most edgy way possible
i mean, mario is technically already violent, you curb stomp turtles and use their corpses to break bricks and collect money.
@@athena1491 Yeah, he does kill a lot of... KOOPAS.
I think the successful executive knows how to talk to investors at a conference better than you might
@@acex222 First of all, not necessarily, being a financial genius does not make you a good people person. But secondly, you could be right, if they don't even consider the public then their language choice would likely be different. It is a weird hybrid
1:23 That Mario comment really tells you that so much has changed in just 20 years that it really makes me wonder what gaming is going to be like in the next 20 years from now and how the 98% is going to cope
jesus it's been a far too long time since i've seen a stickmaster comment
in 20 years we won't be playing games, we will be playing advertisements for microtransactions.
@@Silamon2 Nah, genuine indie games will always be around
i mean in his defense how could he have known that mario would start shooting hookers
Maybe he will start shooting hookers…and maybe I will buy said game…for the plot and character development
The Xbox conference was losing me, but then they flashed five different asses on screen and I immediately ordered three consoles.
which Xbox conference? it's for research purposes.
@@oceanblade95 I assume it's also the 2003 one, although i am not sure.
@@m4yr4iyt/whoooosh
@@pyroflare7774 I was playing to the joke :P
Fun fact about that clip of Halo 2! That build of the game was completely scrapped. Halo 2 came out just a year later.
Actually it's even worse, that was a tech demo which Bungie had rushed in a panic to show at E3 in less than two months. Because some moron at Microsoft said "oh yeah there is to be a sequel" when asked by the press; Bungie didn't even know there would be a sequel at the time, this was news to them. Then after showing what they had done at E3, Microsoft said again "oh it will be out in December NEXT YEAR!" Giving Bungie only 10 months to develop the game from Scratch when what they had shown was a tech demo on rails, the whole thing was scripted, the AI was scripted, the warthog was scripted and the vehicle hijack animation was fake. The only parts of the map which were made, were the stuff we saw in the demo, nothing else existed.
Halo 2 was developed in 10 months, it was absolute hell, the developers had PTSD over it, it caused drama in their home lives (someone almost got divorced because of it), people suffered from "zombie mode", brought to light for the first time the concept of "crunching", which was made light of by Microsoft, who joked about it on the Bungie website, much to the anger of the devs and gamers for the first time came to be aware of crunch as the devs secretly let us know how hellish Halo 2 was via Reddit in 2005. It was also the hellish development of Halo 2 which ultimately caused Bungie to want out from being with Microsoft. Also, the base Halo 2 game is an absolute mess of a game, the version we have on Steam now is the patched version; Halo 2 had 6 months of continuous updates and patches which released alongside with the mappacks DLC, until I remember Halo 2's "patches" taking up a solid whopping ~400MBs of space on my Xbox's hard drive, over half the memory space for the patches partition of the drive. So yeah, via Xbox LIVE almost the entire game code was replaced onto the system itself, when you put the disc into the system, all it was using from it was the art and the music at that point.
Halo 2 was supposed to have a massive city to explore and battle in, but because the game was rushed in 10 months, all of that got scrapped in favour of prioritising the Halo portion of the story, so the city section only got two levels and it was no where near to what was promised at E3. But... we did get what was promised, eventually, just not in Halo 2, instead we got the city vehicles run we always wanted, instead in Halo 3 at the start. With the whole cyberpunk concrete cityscape in Halo ODST.
Man 2003 was such a good year for games, you had such good games like *checks notes* Drake of the 99 Dragons
I love the part where you die, load a screen, get trash talked by statues then load a screen again before you can try again
KOTOR and Jedi Academy came out so those were good
That makes Too Human’s death penalty seem light in comparison.
This is something scott the woz would say
@@gabethebabe3337KOTOR is nostalgia glasses - it wasn't very good - and Jedi Academy was never good. And what's that leave for non-"Star Wars Jedi Worship" gamers?
My favorite part of Nintendo's conference was either the cops interrupting the Madden section, or the Pac Man guy looking like he was about to cry on stage.
"Mario will never start shooting hookers" To be fair to Nintendo, they only brought it up because Joey Libel-man was just on the news a few months before this conference attacking GTA 3 for allowing you to shoot hookers (you can shoot anyone, even important mission characters, in GTA3), to the point normies and parents only knew it as "The game where you shoot hookers and get money". Because that's what he called it.
And yes, I know that slimeball has a real name, but he's one of those people who deserve to be buried by the sands of time IMO.
I knew I remembered something like that. All the mothers were pearl clutching.
Hey buddy, cool it with your anti-Semitism. Don't you know that they've suffered from the Holocaust, which means they're now allowed to do anything they want to, including lie and censor video games?
@@KiraSlith I only know of him because of the Lieberman mode in Postal 2.
My dad knows it as "the game where you steal cars and drive around listening to funny radio stations"
can this please be an annual thing? like every year we look at the E3 from 20 years ago.
yes
Yes please. It's so hilarious and interesting.
Looks like that's exactly what we're doing
@@TreasureTrackerGreenToad I applaud you for taking to time to find my comment again after a whole year
@@RTGMonika Thank you
This is the EDGIER youtube channel we need in our lives
edit: i failed. i peed my pants :(
Piss boy
As someone who didn’t watch the full video yet, the edit really took me by surprise lmao I assume it refers to something in the video, but some of me likes to pretend it doesn’t and you’re just informing us of this.
Game over
You survived 4 rounds
This conference really aged like 20 year old milk and I love it.
If you thought that was bad, watch Bill Gates announce windows 95.
I'm SOBBING I'VE PLAYED THAT EYE TOY GAME AROUND 16:05
Yes making wriggly gestures helped the camera see you lmao
Eyetoy was the best as a kid, still have it :)
The eye toy was low key really fun as a kid
My god how long has it been since we've last heard Satoru Iwata's voice. I wasn't ready to hear his voice again. God I miss him
It's not the same without him.
Please do 2004 after this. I need to see Reggie kicking ass, taking names, and making games.
11:50 The Nintendo Exec was right though. Their next console was extremely successful because it was a value oriented console not the most powerful console.
Yeah wow he smashed it, they would have absolutely had it in the works at this stage
Yep. What's always made them great, even when everyone cries they're still better
Gotta love how RT has a perfectly placed green screen behind him and he refuses to use it
lime screen?
It’s weird to think there are adults who weren’t alive yet when these conferences happened
This was the year I was born, and clearly an omen of what the world had in store for me.
Same here!
me as well
Yooooo! 2003 gang!!!!
Yooo same
2003 gang represent
I'm a time traveler, the newest zelda game is frickin AMAZING! You're gonna have to wait until 2023 to try it though. Anyway, good luck everyone.
20 YEARS⁉️
@@sergiosantosfilipe165 I'm not saying the next one comes out in twenty years, I'm saying that a really good one comes out in twenty years. Sorry if I caused any distress!
@@1th_to_comment. How’s the economy for the next, say, 5ish years? i’m really hoping to buy a house!
@@lixyororke🤫nobody tell him
Wow the year 2023!!!! You must have flying cars and able to live on Mars by then right?
Honestly, I hope you make this a yearly running gag where you look at the 2004 E3 in 2024, and so on.
For the sims part you have to buy the dlc to see the other slides
Lmao, savage
Yeah you have to buy the sims: gameplay expansion for it. It’s definitely worth it and not at all a scummy business practice!
god tier comment
Honestly, my biggest takeaway from this is that since the early 2000's (which I do remember thoroughly and fondly, as a late junior high kid), the public, and Nintendo in general, haven't forced native Japanese speakers to speak in English for a lot of these announcements and interviews anymore. It's still done, sure, but in many of the biggest announcement videos from Nintendo, the Japanese participants speak Japanese and English-speakers speak English. It's really interesting and different from the era I grew up in where everything had to be English-ified if it was to be big in other countries. Things are still in English, but different languages can now be a bit more comfortable being themselve with less pressure in gaming these days. It's quite interesting.
Granted, I'm not the biggest follower of Nintendo media news, but I don't think I've seen Miamoto speak English for ages.
IIRC Miyamoto has said he chooses not to speak English anymore since he's not quite that fluent vocally. Even in interviews, he understands the English-speaking interviewers just fine, but he answers in Japanese with an interpreter.
@@Gabo2oovery fair. Understanding a language is the easy part, forming your own grammatically correct sentence on the spot and pronouncing it all well enough to be understood is hard as hell
Wow, I can't wait to see what E3 is like twenty years from now!
2043: old Dan: oh boy let's see how the 2023 E3 was like!
*error 404*
back to ass, probably
2023? It's going to be impossible to see
**clueless**
Uh oh
Only Iwata could threaten a war between companies and then switch gears to be as friendly as possible saying goodbye
hopefully we keep doing these, I need to see a LIVE RT REACTION to E3, like... 2006 or 2010
2006 especially because the start of E3 2006 for Nintendo is literally "Why do I hear boss music?" and is perhaps the only positive usage of base game Wii Music in the entire history of the world
Riiiiiidger Racerrr! Remember that one?
I thought that was 2008?
Honestly the worst part of this is remembering that the 2000’s were 20 years ago.
Watching old stuff like this is always enlightening, like when they introduce something new and boast about how revolutionary it will be and you've never heard of it before
Yeah I've never heard of the eyetoy before, but Xbox went on to repeat the same mistake years later with the kinect
Yup, I've legit never heard of the Eye-toy before this video. Allthough the big three didn't learn their lesson considering the Playstation Move, the Wii U and Xbox's Kinect.
@@leithaziz2716 The EyeToy was actually a huge success and partly the reason why the 2000s ended up being largely defined by motion controls - it sold 10.5 million units globally, although it was far more successful in Europe than the US (2 million units sold versus 400,000 units by the end of 2003). Out of the 25 games that were specifically developed for it (as opposed to simply offering optional features if you had one connected), only eight were ever released in the US.
Ultimately, however, the EyeToy was a gimmick since it would detect *any* kind of background movement and there's only so many variations of "wave your hands to smack stuff about". Nowadays it's mostly used as a retro USB webcam on PC since all you need to do is download and install an unofficial driver.
Just because something was revolutionary at the time doesn't mean that younger people will know about it decades later. I wonder how many kids today even know what a floppy disc is or a walkman or successful fads like tamagotchi.
You guys are just real young. This was cool stuff we'd talk about in the cafeteria at school
Cannot stop laughing at "Working with Kojima-san is like working with Socrates" ah yes Socrates famously collaborated with others on products to be sold
That hookers line was 100% a shot at GTA, but it's still so bizarre to hear.
That 98% male demographic stat is testament to how the Big 3 went about with their conferences.
Still good to know that Mario won't resort to committing violence against sex workers any time soon.
i wonder how they even got that statistic
@@sinzones3909 made it up out of air and ego like a lot of their numbers, pushing the whole "video games are toys for BOYS!" was a big dumb thing they started around that time to go along with the "Xtreme!!!" theming they slapped on everything at the time, and it left a toxic stain on gaming to this day.
@@TheMichigami It probably wasn't that off honestly. The odds that "mainstream" gamers were less than 90% male in 2003 feels very slim
@@TheMichigami That's like saying it's toxic that they advertised barbies to girls, sure boys can play with it too, but it's obvious it's marketed for girls, just like how gaming used to be when it was new, cause like we see in this video, it was "cool, edgy and violent". Things boys might be more into compared to girls.
Today it's become more normal for women to also play games so it isn't marketed like that anymore.
There's really no need to take it personal and act like it was a toxic decision to target girls in order to make them feel left out.
@@fgqgqlfqsfsffeff
I'm still of the opinion that gendering the toys in ads and societal expectations is the only thing that causes little girls to like Barbies more than little boys.
"Working with Kojima-san is like working with Socrates. He asks me annoying questions that break down my whole world view until I pour poisoned tea down his throat."
Based
@@astro837 Glad to hear it. And now that you've drawn my attention back to this comment, I have to rewatch the whole video to figure out what I was talking about. :P
@@n.henzler50 lol
Oh god, being reminded of the Console Wars from the get go was such a gut punch. Companies really would just go for below the belt, huh. The commercials, the conferences, the magazine ads... The Flame Wars on old forum websites... [shudder]
This is an amazing glimpse at a nostalgic time, in all the good we remember, and all the bad we very quickly forgot. All those old visual effects for the trailers, logos and slideshows! As fun as it is to look back and laugh, it's also interesting to just... see where we've come from since then. Things really do change quickly, don't they?
(And how they stay the same. Business never keeping their promises is a constant, huh?)
Well there’s one promise Nintendo did keep…
Dude i remember the boys in my school who i would try to talk about my gaming with were so into the console wars. Like death threats if you had an xbox or hurling insults at playstation. I was afraid to really talk about my gaming in case i got yelled at for… enjoying something. Luckily most of those guys also played overwatch or destiny so i got to seem cool and hip with my 200+ rank thingy in OW and _g u ns_ when i was 12. Good times, or were they?
Sad to hear whats happened to overwatch though, even if it’s been like 5 years since I’ve played it.
@@commandergs1390and it wasn’t to a dead man
Instead of fighting amongst each other, thereby sowing class division, we should have unionized against the rich kids who owned multiple consoles
I like how saying that the quote in the thumbnail aged poorly implies that Mario did, in fact, start shooting hookers.
The further back you go, the more of an actual press conference these presentations are. Once they started being broadcast, they began to put on a show for the consumer.
Yall know we will watch Dan watch paint dry. Guys an entertainer. But the 2003 E3 Press Conference? what the fuck
You know, this 2003 E3 conference was closer to the original release of Skyrim than we are to it today.
But it is Not closer to Skyrim than we are to Skyrim being made again.
It's also closer to the original release of Skyrim than we are to The Elder Scrolls VI release.
Honestly one of the coolest things about this is hearing Miyamoto speak some english as you dont tend to hear it that often. Also im as old as this presentation.
I’m as old as this conference too
Remember that the current meaning of 'being edgy' was not used as is until recently. When they say edgier in conference, they would likely meaning 'more sharper, like the edge.'
But it sure hasn't aged well, that's for sure.
I always assumed people mistake the word "edgy" for "mature" in terms of what they're actually looking for. That being said, they tend to just say they want stuff to be "darker" without really understanding what they're talking about or if that adds anything.
I naturally appreciate mature stories and games, but if you give me something lighthearted with a lot of well, heart, it can be just as worthwhile and be loved just as much. The tone doesn't have to be moody or grim to achieve that. For every Dark Souls or Metal Gear, there's a DMC, Ace Attorney or Kirby game out there (somewhat weird analogy, but hopefully the point is clear).
The modern meaning of edgy was in use at the time. (Iwata even says "more mature content" when edgier comes up on the slide) Edgieness was just not seen as a bad thing yet.
it was used the way we use it now all the time back in 03. a good way you can check is that when shadow the hedgehog came out in 05 everyone called it edgey because he was emo sonic with a gun
As someone alive well before 2003... nah man, are you kidding me? "Edgy" meant what it does now even in the 90s. The 90s were the king of edge.
No, no, he's right. They definitely meant "with more edges", since the GameCube had 12 :D
To be fair with the subscription internet thing, Nintendo was the last holdout with a free service all the way until the Switch. But charging money with very little improvement over their Wii/WiiU service is not a good look.
It's not even the subscription that's the sole problem really. It's that the online infrastructure is really bad by today's standards and could certainly be a lot better.
Not the Last. PCs still let you buy games, play games, play multiplayer, host servers....
Where as Sega decided they would rather stop making consoles all together. So they ...win?
@@leithaziz2716 If only Nintendo had enough money to fix those kinds of things. Oh well, maybe they'll make it big one day... /s
Caddicarus did a video recently on the PS EyeToy games and they are surprisingly both plentiful and functional... both even more than the Kinect library.
"Donkey Kong will remain an ape"
Huh? That fuckin so?
UA-cam*
Gorillas are part of the 'great ape' grouping.
2024 new Donkey Kong announced. DK will now be a blue tongued skink.
Donkey Kong will no longer be an ape. Because of woke
Please tell me you're going to watch more E3 conferences, RT! This was really fun!!
These are such a capsule of their time. The trash talking thing being so big was in part due to the WWE and the likes of The Rock and Stone Cold being such icons towards the end of their main runs iirc
I don't think it had a thing to do with the two of them. It's just what men do when theyre being competitive.
"Mario will never start shooting hookers"
That's one helluva quote
I love the title specifying the current year for the archaeologists in hundreds of years
You know, after UA-cam collapses after making a BS change to its TOS and CGs that banned every creator.
Such a UA-cam moment for Nintendo to go back on their promise not to have paid online subscriptions
2002 was very exciting, cant wait for this new year
This is so funny, there are SO many things you wouldn’t expect to show up in this presentation
“Unlike in Mario, you’re not gonna catch our characters jumping on turtles” You will catch them shooting hookers though.
EA demonstrating their brand new N-Word On Delivery system sells the whole thing
Nothing makes me feel old like someone who was barely out of preschool when this conference was held poking light-hearted, nostalgic fun at how janky and pixelated one of the best years of my life was.
Yep. We are getting old.
2003 is as long after 1983 as 2023 is after 2003. That makes me feel terribly old.
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My gosh. Voice chat in video games was specifically designed for trash-talk. No wonder it’s always been such a nightmare in most games.
Yes that was always the point, don't you remember? Maybe you're too young. It was hilarious and fun until the gaming space was invaded by a bunch of sensitive babies
@@andycopeland7051 Screaming babies talking about my mother never interested me, so I tended to stay away from Xbox voice chat.
@@Dash123456789Brawl reducing it down to just that tells me all I need to know about you.
I initially thought that they were referencing the Robot Chicken Segment "Grand Theft Mario" here with the whole Mario shooting hookers thing, but it seems the segment was made in 2006, so I have no idea why this completely unhinged E3 conference went down like this. This will surely go down in history as one of the E3 conferences of all time!
I believe it's referencing the controversy over GTA3 letting you shoot hookers for fun which happened a few months before
ah yes, back in the day when all companies were seeking game exclusivity, well they still do now but back then even the people wanted that exclusivity until crossplay started getting more demand in recent years
Man I can’t believe it was just 2003 and now twenty years has now passed wow time flies can’t wait to blink and now be 2043
man, seeing that halo 2 E3 trailer just got me thinking how cool it would be to see RT playing a halo game. He already played Doom, why not see the other big green power-armored butt kicker in action?
Not that anything from that particular trailer ever made it into Halo 2. Hell, I don't think _anything_ from Halo 2 as it released had been finished by that point. Everything but the basic multiplayer stuff was made in only a year. It's amazing the damn thing was even playable.
@@LieutenantAlaki I mean, a lot of the gameplay stuff made it in, like hijacking vehicles. But this was when they thought Halo 3 wouldn't exist so...
The comment about Iwata trying to implement online without a payed subscription service makes me angry because after he passed, they started charging money for online. Genuinely pissed
"Oh good, that guy's dead now we can finally start exploiting our fanbase in every conceivable way"
Wish we still had him
can't wait for RT's 2004 coverage, I hear some cool games are gonna come out next year
I really hope you actually do 2004 e3. I was honestly disappointed when I realized there aren't any other videos like this
Ah yes, the 20th anniversary of Mario not shooting hookers. I'm glad Nintendo is continuing to uphold their promise!
Until this exact moment I didn't realise how nostalgic I was for 2003, where companies could just be cringy in front of everybody and we didn't consider them either god or the devil.
I bet you just didn't have the ability to make those kinds of judgemnts back then
We just weren't looking into companies as close as we do today.
Games were cheap enough that we were just happy to play them and enjoy, not bothering about internal problems, crunch or any kind of sexual allegations.
And especially that last part back then wasn't treated as seriously as it is now.
We tend to judge past by the lenses of today. But let's be honest, we used to be too lenient and too quick to dismiss things than we are today.
@@nihili4196 how exactly were games cheaper? With inflation in mind games are far cheaper now than in 2003 even with the price increase from $60 to $70.
@@poiri okay, cheaper wasn't the right word.
They felt like they gave you more value.
You would always get finished game on the launch and right out of the box. Games were Simpler and smaller, that's true, but games for the most part were functional, and most felt like more than quick cash grab
Sorry for poor choice of words, I wrote this early in morning and English isn't exactly my first language^^
My bad.
Couldn’t wait for RT to cover this ive been looking foreword to this :D
I don’t think gaming could get any better than this. 2004 is prob gonna be *UA-cam* guys
Fr tho, 2004 was probably the best year for gaming ever.
I don't know, I'm really excited for that Warcraft game next year
@@PajamaPantsStudios 2017 was amazing though
What's a UA-cam?
Meh, I am buying an xbox to play Halo and KOTOR. Enjoy your kiddy console!
Nintendo’s showing was honestly really solid. It was back when EA made decent licensed games. And Rogue Squadron 3 is fun.
My favorite Reaction Streamer back at it reacting again, truly 2003 is going to be a great year.
Them: "How old are you?"
Me: I'm resident evil 4 reveal old
Nintendo: "Mario would never shoot a hooker!"
Sega: "Sonic is way too cool to commit crimes!"
XBox: "If you haven't shot a wh*re AND directly called someone's mother one, we're compensating you!"
hooooooly shit the EyeToy (15:37) has awakened MEMORIES! i remember playing with it at a school costume event and then never seeing anything like it ever again. and bc i was like six and has never seen a gaming console before, i never even thought about asking the owner what the hell this was and just live with the very livid memories of it and not knowing.
Really looking forward to these new games
Since Nintendo now has paid online we can expect donkey Kong to no longer be the lovely ape that we all know, link to lose hope and Mario of course to start shooting hookers
Little Timmy wasn't watching this. Press conferences were not shown or broadcast until G4 started doing it live in 2007. These were literally just for press and investors.
I have no idea how Dan came up with this idea, but reacting to early 2000's cringe is a content goldmine. It's recent enough that much of it's digitally archived, but old enough that people hadn't figured out that all the crazy shit they said and did would be permanently preserved on the internet.
The only game I ever had that was compatible with the EyeToy was Monster Rancher 3, where it literally just took a picture for one cosmetic item in the game. Never knew that it was Kinect seven years before Kinect.
the way i watched you stream this and now i’m watching this lil recap,, E3 2003 really is just that good
As a 2000's kid, as you can imagine, I never heard or saw this. It's really interesting to look back on it now!
jeez wathcing this gives all the context i need to understand why the male/female ratio started so one sided
I have nothing of note to say since I missed this stream but Daniel was called the Drift King back in college
Also yeah video game companies were absolutely ruthless towards one another in the 90s and 2000s
0:35 "and here to get us going is Nintendo of America's George Harrison!"
The Beatles been real quiet since this dropped...
Iwata was truly a gift to the gaming industry.
Man, the early 2000s entertainment industry was like a total fever dream 24/7. Good times. 😂
Didn't know that game companies used to actively encourage their audience to trash talk each other. Were they simply out of touch and was only expecting playful insults that were within the spirit of sportmanship,
or did they know that some of their audience likes to yell extreme threats (e.g. descriptive r@pe threats) and slurs, but the company just didn't care because they don't have the technology to regulate it. Yet they are actively encouraging their audience to say whatever they want.
They just didn't care. They knew via play testing that things got vitriolic very fast with online play, but they cared more about the technology and trying to prove their technical specs and hardware capabilities more than they cared about player safety-- Keep in mind, it's all about money. E3 was for shareholders. I'm old lol, so I remember this era of gaming well, unfortunately.
Saying they'd try to keep players safe wouldn't have earned them as much money, compared to just shoving new tech out the door as fast as possible to beat the competition regardless of the impact that would have on player experience and wellbeing. This was the era of games that encouraged players to be overly aggressive with each other online, and that's part of why the online gaming environment is still toxic to this day.
They didn't even bother trying to think of female players, because they didn't believe they had any--- Look at their "98% male" statistic. Girls played games as much as boys did, it's just that women weren't counted in the numbers because of a lot of sexism in the business culture at the time (which also still persists, just to a less obvious degree). It's also worth realising that none of this stuff was ever marketed to women or even tried to make itself appealing to women, so there was a very real gender imbalance, but this was purely because their marketing failed to even try to reach that audience at all.
They thought that "girls don't play games" because "girls don't like games", when in reality, their gender numbers were so skewed because 1) they never even tried to consider women players for a moment, and 2) the community was even more sexist back then than it is now, and it was difficult for women to enter a video gaming community where they were subject to verbal and sometimes physical abuse. At the game store near my house in 1998, it was well known that women going into the store were likely to be harassed by staff simply because they were women looking at video games. It was a huge problem in a lot of places, but for some reason I almost never hear anyone mention it, probably because a lot of people feel ashamed about their piss poor behaviour back then. But that's no excuse. Video game culture was hostile towards women for a very long time, both online and in real life. And this is still an issue, but back then it was very blatant and out in the open. So of course, if women don't feel safe, they won't play.
EDIT: Also, if they found a large number of female players for a particular game, they would often excuse this as "her brother probably bought the game, so the brother is the consumer we want to target, and girls are just a by-product of boys buying games". This was almost never the case, but they made assumptions about gender of players back then. That was genuinely a common belief back then. It was awful.
It is also true that games, hardware, etc. were all almost exclusively marketed towards boys, because it was believed that "girls don't play video games", which was obviously untrue-- But they never bothered to even try to appeal to general audiences instead of just their very specific target range of 18-25 male players, because they believed that was where the money was. Lots of sexism was involved.
So they never even bothered to consider that online play and encouraging aggression between players would inevitably result in threats and slurs, especially aimed towards various minority groups who they never bothered to include in their play testing or statistics, because it's all about getting the product out the door and not about how that product might hurt people. It sucked then, and it sucks now. :(
@@effluviah7544That’s a really youtube situation right there. Sigh :(
They were completely out of touch with their audience and had no idea how mean they could be yet