Yeah, the GSX with the Stsge was a beast. Was known as a Hemi killer. The Cougar Eliminator was a cool car but was heavier and slower than the Mustang with the same set up.
Torque monsters. Wonder why GM put 10 bolts instead of 12 bolts in them. I guess with those tires the 10 bolts handled the tq. Put cheaters and that rear end can snap under pressure. Love them though
Exactly! We used to do test and tune/run what you brung races at US 66 in IL just to sort the car out. Next day we did bracket races and got our times. Very often on the day after that, the track conditions changed and the car hooked up harder, ran faster, but we got disqualified. I remember in '99 17 cars got disqualified cuz they ran faster than their bracket. After a warm sunny morning, a cool dry weather front came through and cars were running 2 to 8 tenths faster with ease. Some way faster than that. Racers were really mad.
@@carmineredd1198 The GT40 was powered by V8 engines ranging from 298 cid to 427 cid. not a V6! Besides you are comparing apples to oranges. The GT 40 was designed as a Lemans race car. These are passenger cars designed for street use.
70 Buick GSX Stage 1 blows away anything Ford made and is the Hemi Killer. Fastest USA production muscle car made. 510 on the torque. OUCH. Not bad looking either do you think.😍
@@therewhatgoes8038 oh lookie, some internet jackass calling someone they dont agree with a name....isnt that cute. Well dickhead they could actually put some effort into it and idk actually make it look like they are at least trying...also a very easy solution. I agree with him, the older videos were better. Talking into a microphone isnt exactly a challenge. I like hearing the sounds from the cars too but a video of basically silence is a little dry sometimes....oh and the word you were trying to type was **watch not want. If you are gonna try to start a fight with some random guy, at least proofread your shit first
@@jrvbamafan1 Nice to see you standing-up for your boyfriend. I’m sure he appreciates that. Proofread? I should say the same to you. Specifically, at least learn how to use commas correctly. And thanks for calling me cute, but I’m sure your boyfriend won’t appreciate that. Plus, I’m not really into that sort of stuff. Good for you, though! Next time, try not to get so offended, princess.
Don't underestimate the 428 Cobra Jet off the showroom floor with some headers better tires and a little tweaking you could get these cars into the 12's I'm surprised the cougar did as well as it did against that brute GSX. Those cars were no joke. Growing up at Detroit Dragway I have seen them put hemis on the trailer before.
Excellent matchup, I'm Ford through and through, but the 455 Stage 1 was a Monster off the showroom floor, The 70 Buick GS and GSX are one of the few GM cars i enjoy, along with the 68-72 Nova,s and 70-73 Camaro,s. The FE Big Block Fords were a little before my time, I'm more into the 429-460,s and Clevelands. But that 428 CJ did a Damn Good job running right with that Stage 1 A little more rear gear with that heavy Cougar and it'll be a Screamer, and swap out the C-6 for a Top Loader, and a Detroit Locker with some 4.30,s.
Found you here! A nice battle indeed. That 455 is a monster, lightest big block on the playground, monstrous torque, just pure sex. The Mercury fought well though, pretty nice.
@@kuiper6926 Yes sir, i enjoy these videos of the old Muscle Cars. Those Stage 1 Buicks were very impressive, i was actually able to take a ride in one few years back, was a White Model with a 4 Speed, Completely Stock except Headers and Exhaust System, i was So Shocked at how quick it actually was, those Stage 1 455,s are No Joke, i can't definitely see them taking out Hemi Cars and LS6 Chevelles, on the Streets, the amount of Torque was insane, Very Light Engine Blocks indeed, But because of that, they were somewhat Weak, I've heard numerous times, i don't Know from experience, cause i never owned one, but would Love to. I'm really not a GM Fan, but those Buick GS and GSX cars are definitely my favorite GM. I would definitely buy one if i could.
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 About those Stage 1's ... March 1985 Muscle Car Review magazine. The infamous 1970 GTX Hemi vs. GS Stage 1 race. Man, I was there in G'ville, FL back in Dec. '84 with my '66 Fairlane GTA running 14.20's at the time and saw that classic race. MCR editor Donald Farr (who owned an early Cougar) said that race was put together in less than two weeks for his magazine to "settle a score". These two contenders were like muscle cars you'd find on the street back then. Neither were prepped just for that race. Sorta like just "run what you brung". The GTX was trailered there from Tampa and the GS was DRIVEN 300 mi. round trip from somewhere in Georgia. I remember that the Hemi guys were sooo confident. Then that quiet GS showed its stuff, and the rest is muscle car history!
@@benkrom2737 - You tube is putting comments on wrong videos all over the place! That comment is for here: ua-cam.com/video/4FOnW001eFU/v-deo.html (Some BS here: 06:15... Red car doesn't have posi... '428' looks to have about 200 HP... leaves just mostly exhaust smoke at takeoff...) Your comment was over there at the time...
@@BuzzLOLOL Yeah, I believe gm required certain options when getting packages and posi was one of them. Ford I believe you had to hit all the boxes. Easy to miss when ordering. These days you want one thing you end up with at least 5 things you could do without. Open end rear-end is easy to drive both tires by throwing in reverse 1st and one blip of gas locks diff. Then put in 1st and go and you'll think car has posi 😁
I thought the GS with the Stage 1 would take this handily, but bracket racing is what it is...not a fan of the breakout rule. Congrats to the Cougar...that is cool ride...you don't see many '69s, especially with the 428. Two muscle classics....love them both!
The GSX was a recent frame off Concours Resto and never intended to be raced according to "Steve" ... the guy in MI that did the resto work. This car was as "bone stock" as they come.
The Mercury really digs in nice in the low end and 0-60 in 5.7 was a good time when they tested it in 1969. It can't keep up with the Buick's extra cubic inches in the mid range.
I can tell you that my 70 cougar with a two barrel Windsor in it has a hard time grabbing the pavement, I can only imagine how much it takes to get the 428 to hook up.
Excellent match of these 2 iconic muscle cars, but for Merc,you need the big brother 70 Mercury Cyclone Spoiler 429SCJ drag pack 4:30 which had monster torque to and could match the stage 1 all day long.
Cougars are my favourite Ford next to, well a few more. Why? Bigger than a stang, way more comfortable and luxurious, plus they had engines designed to tickle a little muscle. Most people don't realise, Ford were more interested in total sales than having the most bezerk quarter miler in every model. For that category, God created Mopar. And I'm Ford forever.
I always thought that the Ford automatic trans. Shifter look so cheap & cheesy. If you are going to have split buckets. Put a console.& use some sport ideas to the shifter.
@@tracewallace23.....The XR7 was a separate interior option equivalent to Mustang's Interior-Decor-Group "pony" interior. The only thing that distinguished it on the exterior was an XR7 badge on the c pillar; most GT-Es were optioned with the XR7 interior package; there's one for sale for $159,000!
Cougar- the luxury version of the Mustang. a bit on the heavy side to. Wish this one had the ram air and a little stiffer rear gear but thats the way it goes.
Yeah more gear, Drag Pack Option would've been nice 3.91,s or 4.30,s with Detroit Locker, and a Top Loader 4-speed would be the icing on the cake. And Ram Air too.
Grudge [challenge] races are not subject to any such disqualification. There was a sign in our shop that was huge and across the top of the side wall, "No bracket racing spoken here."
Somebody mind explaining the point of the breakout rule? From what I gather, you're penalized for running a faster time in a race than you did in a qualifying round? Why is that? Seems pretty stupid to me.
In bracket racing the driver who runs quicker than his predicted ET looses. Bracket racing puts emphasis on driver skill. There is heads up racing where any 2 cars go at the same time and the first one to cross the finish line wins.
@@markg7030 with respect, I understand that. I don't get why you're disqualified if you run a faster time than your qualifying time. In this video the Buick ran a 13.96 in his qualifying round if I recall correctly but ran a 13.47 in the race and lost because he ran a quicker race time that his qualifying time. I don't understand the logic there. Seems counter-intuitive to penalize a driver for running his best race.
@@FunkyMonk4Life It prevents cheating known as "sand bagging". If I say my car runs 13.00 and your car runs 13.00 and I run 13.10 and you Run 13.20 then I win. If I run 12.90 then I'm disqualified for lying or I don't know my car well enough. Don't bracket race, race heads up that's what I explained.
@@markg7030 to start, this isn’t bracket racing. It’s heads-up with a breakout rule. Second, you can run faster than your qualifying time, but only a couple tenths. The Buick blew way past that.
@@theangrydragon182 You can't say it any better than what you said. It's amazing how many Idiots will comment on something like this that have No Clue, Can't understand the difference between Bracket Racing with a breakout, and Other types of Drag Racing which has a set Breakout et.
What the hell, that break out rule is stupid. Most cars are not going to run their fastest during their qualification run. So what happened to the minimum ET rule set for all cars in this class? Man, in my opinion, those Buick steel mags are the best looking wheels ever put on any classic muscle car. I used to own a '71 Buick Riviera with those wheels, posi-traction, and duel exhaust. Leaving the automatic transmission in Drive, it would flat out roast the tires in all the gears. Not good for the hole shot at all, but from a 40 mph roll off, hardly anyone could beat me.
I don’t understand why this is so difficult to comprehend. They give you 3/10 grace with breakout. If you can’t get your car dialed in during time trial to that amount and you don’t deserve to be on the drag strip.
What your hearing is 428 cubic inches of Cobra Jet Horse Power ! No I'm not sure that 455 Stage 1 was one of GM,s best, One of them had a mean exhaust tone tho.
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 I had one of those Buicks with the 455 stage 1. Just at idle with stock exhaust you could FEEL it as much hear the rumble, hard to hear the radio though (not that you wanted to most of the time). Quite the beast for sure. I could pass anything on the road, except the gas station😏😀
A. Silver and Gold. Black vinyl roofs. Girls loved those cars too.. Those were the wildest times. Buick GS 455. Stage 1. North of NY city.. Taconic and sprained parkways. 150+. Lucky to be alive.. Bias tires half worn-out...I have True stories about those cars.....
If I remember correctly there was a handful of Boss 429 Eliminator cougars made. Anyway I think The Eliminator cougar was one of the sexiest cars ever😁
The GS are the ultimate sleeper car. Highly underrates. The highest torque from the 60's and 70's of all muscle cars. Car and Driver said its the true stamp puller!!!. I. had. 2 - 70 455 GUs's.. Won most street races. 150 mph.easy.. Love those cars. I paid. 500 for one. And. $ 750 for other. Wow!!!!!.
Break out rule totally suck and should not be included in this type racing Buick ever round lost due to the idiotic breakout rules That’s why I quick racing, it runs what it runs
This is exactly why they SHOULD have a breakout rule. It stops sandbagging and creates closer matches for the best of 3. If you don’t have it then most match-ups would be blowouts. And it’s probably good you quit racing because you obviously don’t under the rules.
In Pure Stock Racing cars are paired together for eliminations according to their time trial times. If two cars aren't closely matched, they aren't run against each other. So you can't sandbag in the time trials and then run all out in the eliminations, as that would ruin the show. And this is a show - entertainment - not real professional racing with actual prize money. You want a horse race, not one car blowing away the other. Not sure what happened to the Buick. Sometimes cars will run a lot quicker late in the day after the car and the outside temps have cooled down, and I'd guess something like that is what happened here.
510 FT/LBS TORQUE AT 2800 rpm DAMN THAT'S AMAZING ... BUT STILL A DISMAL SHOWING ... I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE HIGH 12'S .... ELIMITOR IS A BEAUTIFUL CAR WITHOUT ANY FASTBACK 440 FT/LBS IS IMPRESSIVE BUT AS ALWAYS SHAME ON FORD FOR THE CAST CRANK !!!!
Jim, cast cranks are fine for these applications. You'll never break one unless something else breaks FIRST. I was at the very first "Supercar Showdown" for "stock original muscle cars" ever held. It was in May '85 at Bowling Green, KY. The quickest pure stocker there was a 1970 GS Stage 1. Several bad-azz Hemi's, Boss 351 Mustangs and W-30 Olds never got out of the 14's. My point is that a 14-sec. Hemi would also be a "dismal showing". Performances of a given car are often all over the place. A lot has to do with so many factors.
biggest bank account wins that's why Drag racing big boys are struggling to get full fields of cars in professional classes. Bracket racing its the best car AND DRIVER !
@@theangrydragon182 8:55 of video ... when a car "Breaks out" that's Bracket racing. maybe between 2 cars but those are bracket racing rules also note a win with slower ET by getting to line first because of reaction time Also Bracket racing rules. I've been to some of these Pure Stock /Factory Stock races with all kinds of different rules But in this video if you award a win to a car that crossed second because of Breakout you're bracket racing.
It’s NOT a bracket race. They just put a breakout rule to prevent drivers from lying about what their car can run which is known as sandbagging. The organizers use the qualifying times to pair cars up for the best matchups. I wouldn’t want to race against someone who runs 1/2 second quicker than their qualifying ET. Would have zero chance of winning.
@@alfredodirks3537 A breakout rule does not mean bracket racing. Do you see the tree going at different rates on each side? No. Dumb moron this isn’t bracket racing. And what are you talking about? In any type of drag racing a person with a higher ET can win....The winner is who crosses the finish line 1st. Do you seriously not understand that the elapsed time does not start until the cars move? Reaction time is not included? Go back to drag racing 101.
Funny nobody mentions the fact that the '70 GSX stage1 was the FASTEST PRODUCTION CAR IN AMERICA beating out the big block corvette, the other A body big block cars, AND the venerable HEMI!!!! Not many people know this...... Grandpa's Buick COULD stomp them ALL!!!
What happened bro did you get laryngitis usually you're telling us all about the cars anyway another good video I'm going to take a guess at the Buick kicks butt on this one that's just my guess.
I can believe the GSX running low 13's...but the Eliminator? Sorry, myself, I don't buy it. I say this because in 1971 I had a bone stock '69 Roadrunner, 383 4spd, 3:23 posi. There were three of these Cougars where I lived, not one could beat my RR, pure stock form Also, in every article I have read, fastest muscle cars in 1970, seeing the yop 10, no Cougar to be found, the GSX was in the top 3 every time
Both these cars have so much meaning to me. My wife owned a 69’ RX7 390. Car was definitely a runner and looked so good in gold. However the Buick GSX is probably my favorite car ever. Such a beautiful car and strong performer. Followed closely by the 70’ Chevelle 454 SS. Oh and a friends 70’ GMC Sprint 454.
The 428 CJ has a serious disadvantage in pure stock because Ford ruined it with the most awful flowing exhaust manifolds. On the other hand some Big Block Buick exhaust manifolds will flow well enough to support over 500 HP.
Why in the HELL would anyone have ever ordered one of these cars with an automatic transmission? If I was in the market for any muscle car, an auto would be an instant deal breaker. Jeez...
@@adriangall9025 Oh, I totally agree with you on that point, but dammit, it's just more fun to row your own gears ( unless you're like in a 10 hour traffic jam, been there done that. Not fun. ) but generally...
I find myself re-watching the old videos because they were not only more entertaining, you got a lot more useful information from them.
Can’t remember the last time I saw a 428 cougar. Very cool.
Very rare car for sure!
@@danmyers9372 428 Cougar not all that rare.
Back then those Buick 455 GSX cars were badass cars on the street or on the dragstrip. Buick V6 GNX cars were also.
IMHO two of the best looking muscle cars ever
I would buy either one today
Buick should have this one fairly easily
The Buick was faster. The driver was disqualified because he ran faster ( lied or was mistaken).
Yeah, the GSX with the Stsge was a beast. Was known as a Hemi killer. The Cougar Eliminator was a cool car but was heavier and slower than the Mustang with the same set up.
*Stage 1
Hard for the rubber to hook up at the start when the tarmac and tire temp is not very hot. 510 ft.lbs @2800 rpm makes it much more difficult
Torque monsters. Wonder why GM put 10 bolts instead of 12 bolts in them. I guess with those tires the 10 bolts handled the tq. Put cheaters and that rear end can snap under pressure. Love them though
When they started bracket racing and break out rules I quit drag racing. My motto was run what you brung and hope you brought enough!
Exactly! We used to do test and tune/run what you brung races at US 66 in IL just to sort the car out. Next day we did bracket races and got our times. Very often on the day after that, the track conditions changed and the car hooked up harder, ran faster, but we got disqualified. I remember in '99 17 cars got disqualified cuz they ran faster than their bracket. After a warm sunny morning, a cool dry weather front came through and cars were running 2 to 8 tenths faster with ease. Some way faster than that. Racers were really mad.
Exactly. Basically the Buick could beat the cougar head up. They break out nonsense is supposed to even things up. Blah.
that 455 v8 could never beat ford's v6 gt40
@@carmineredd1198 The GT40 was powered by V8 engines ranging from 298 cid to 427 cid. not a V6! Besides you are comparing apples to oranges. The GT 40 was designed as a Lemans race car. These are passenger cars designed for street use.
@@jdgimpa do the research, the 2021 Ford GT40 has a 6 cylinder twin turbo engine not a V8
Sounds like there's a helluva lot of frost out there this morning!
That's the way we got these things 😂
Yep, i heard the same thing.
I was wondering about that
I kept thinking again with the frost! 😅
Looks like it's mostly on the left lane.
70 Buick GSX Stage 1 blows away anything Ford made and is the Hemi Killer. Fastest USA production muscle car made. 510 on the torque. OUCH. Not bad looking either do you think.😍
That's not blowing away.
Big block on Big block violence it's a great thing to see in 👍
Finally! Cars that are actually stock and running the quarter mile times they would run from the factory.
What video were you watching? 06:15... Red car doesn't have posi... '428' looks to have about 200 HP... leaves just mostly exhaust smoke at takeoff...
I like these cars. Not something you see all the time. Thanks for posting the vid.
I miss the wisecracking guy. These videos are so dry they're hard to watch. Not much fun.
Then don’t want numbnuts.....a very easy solution
@@therewhatgoes8038 oh lookie, some internet jackass calling someone they dont agree with a name....isnt that cute. Well dickhead they could actually put some effort into it and idk actually make it look like they are at least trying...also a very easy solution. I agree with him, the older videos were better. Talking into a microphone isnt exactly a challenge. I like hearing the sounds from the cars too but a video of basically silence is a little dry sometimes....oh and the word you were trying to type was **watch not want. If you are gonna try to start a fight with some random guy, at least proofread your shit first
@@jrvbamafan1 Nice to see you standing-up for your boyfriend. I’m sure he appreciates that. Proofread? I should say the same to you. Specifically, at least learn how to use commas correctly. And thanks for calling me cute, but I’m sure your boyfriend won’t appreciate that. Plus, I’m not really into that sort of stuff. Good for you, though! Next time, try not to get so offended, princess.
Don't underestimate the 428 Cobra Jet off the showroom floor with some headers better tires and a little tweaking you could get these cars into the 12's I'm surprised the cougar did as well as it did against that brute GSX. Those cars were no joke. Growing up at Detroit Dragway I have seen them put hemis on the trailer before.
Excellent matchup, I'm Ford through and through, but the 455 Stage 1 was a Monster off the showroom floor, The 70 Buick GS and GSX are one of the few GM cars i enjoy, along with the 68-72 Nova,s and 70-73 Camaro,s. The FE Big Block Fords were a little before my time, I'm more into the 429-460,s and Clevelands. But that 428 CJ did a Damn Good job running right with that Stage 1 A little more rear gear with that heavy Cougar and it'll be a Screamer, and swap out the C-6 for a Top Loader, and a Detroit Locker with some 4.30,s.
Found you here! A nice battle indeed. That 455 is a monster, lightest big block on the playground, monstrous torque, just pure sex. The Mercury fought well though, pretty nice.
@@kuiper6926 Yes sir, i enjoy these videos of the old Muscle Cars. Those Stage 1 Buicks were very impressive, i was actually able to take a ride in one few years back, was a White Model with a 4 Speed, Completely Stock except Headers and Exhaust System, i was So Shocked at how quick it actually was, those Stage 1 455,s are No Joke, i can't definitely see them taking out Hemi Cars and LS6 Chevelles, on the Streets, the amount of Torque was insane, Very Light Engine Blocks indeed, But because of that, they were somewhat Weak, I've heard numerous times, i don't Know from experience, cause i never owned one, but would Love to. I'm really not a GM Fan, but those Buick GS and GSX cars are definitely my favorite GM. I would definitely buy one if i could.
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 About those Stage 1's ... March 1985 Muscle Car Review magazine. The infamous 1970 GTX Hemi vs. GS Stage 1 race. Man, I was there in G'ville, FL back in Dec. '84 with my '66 Fairlane GTA running 14.20's at the time and saw that classic race. MCR editor Donald Farr (who owned an early Cougar) said that race was put together in less than two weeks for his magazine to "settle a score". These two contenders were like muscle cars you'd find on the street back then. Neither were prepped just for that race. Sorta like just "run what you brung". The GTX was trailered there from Tampa and the GS was DRIVEN 300 mi. round trip from somewhere in Georgia. I remember that the Hemi guys were sooo confident. Then that quiet GS showed its stuff, and the rest is muscle car history!
Agreed
NOTHING more sexier than a GSX!
Hell yeah mate!
Couple of rare muscle cars from the past. E.T tells that these cars are bone stock, nice ! Oh, yeah rumor has it that it's frosty outside ! 😆
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@@BuzzLOLOL These cars are yellow and blue ! Yeah, send me some of what's in your pipe plz !
@@benkrom2737 - You tube is putting comments on wrong videos all over the place! That comment is for here:
ua-cam.com/video/4FOnW001eFU/v-deo.html
(Some BS here: 06:15... Red car doesn't have posi... '428' looks to have about 200 HP... leaves just mostly exhaust smoke at takeoff...)
Your comment was over there at the time...
@@BuzzLOLOL Yeah, I believe gm required certain options when getting packages and posi was one of them. Ford I believe you had to hit all the boxes. Easy to miss when ordering. These days you want one thing you end up with at least 5 things you could do without. Open end rear-end is easy to drive both tires by throwing in reverse 1st and one blip of gas locks diff. Then put in 1st and go and you'll think car has posi 😁
Guess there was a lot of frost that morning....lol
I thought the GS with the Stage 1 would take this handily, but bracket racing is what it is...not a fan of the breakout rule. Congrats to the Cougar...that is cool ride...you don't see many '69s, especially with the 428. Two muscle classics....love them both!
The GSX was a recent frame off Concours Resto and never intended to be raced according to "Steve" ... the guy in MI that did the resto work. This car was as "bone stock" as they come.
@@LR-my2di That is one beautiful Buick!
@@gary9426 Agreed! At the '21 GS Nats last May in Bowling Green KY, there were 67 of them (GSX's). .
This looks like it will be one DELICIOUS race.
Not as Delicious as your Coleslaw !
...with all the fixin's!!
😂😂
You can see the Buick didn't come off the line as quick in the second that eliminator had two car lengths off the line and still almost lost
The GSX is a killer machine. The Cougar held in there pretty well considering the monster opponent.
The Mercury really digs in nice in the low end and 0-60 in 5.7 was a good time when they tested it in 1969. It can't keep up with the Buick's extra cubic inches in the mid range.
I can tell you that my 70 cougar with a two barrel Windsor in it has a hard time grabbing the pavement, I can only imagine how much it takes to get the 428 to hook up.
Good honest race with real factory cars.
Love the Buick, fast class. I have a 68 Buick GS400 and I am jealous.
Excellent match of these 2 iconic muscle cars, but for Merc,you need the big brother 70 Mercury Cyclone Spoiler 429SCJ drag pack 4:30 which had monster torque to and could match the stage 1 all day long.
Dam can’t beat the raw torque of the buick
Cougars are my favourite Ford next to, well a few more. Why?
Bigger than a stang, way more comfortable and luxurious, plus they had engines designed to tickle a little muscle.
Most people don't realise, Ford were more interested in total sales than having the most bezerk quarter miler in every model. For that category, God created Mopar. And I'm Ford forever.
68-72 GM A-bodies are the best and the sexiest. Reasonable curb weight, lots of power and spacious for 6 average adults.
Bring back the entertaining commentary
How about get lost
Way better with commentary
I always thought that the Ford automatic trans. Shifter look so cheap & cheesy. If you are going to have split buckets. Put a console.& use some sport ideas to the shifter.
True -- and the rest of the interior is really nice.
Yes, it did, but the C6 tranny was a good one.
Hands down the best looking body style Cougars Mercury ever made, surprised it made the big Buick use all it's 510 ft.lbs of ground pounding torque.💪
I'd pick the 68 GT-E, gorgeous car with the 427
The xr7 was a good looking one too. Def the best looking cougars ever made
@@tracewallace23.....The XR7 was a separate interior option equivalent to Mustang's Interior-Decor-Group "pony" interior. The only thing that distinguished it on the exterior was an XR7 badge on the c pillar; most GT-Es were optioned with the XR7 interior package; there's one for sale for $159,000!
@@bhaggen let me check my lotto tickets 😏🤣
Thanks for the info though👍
@@tracewallace23 What years did Mercury make that body style of Cougars, 67-69? I know they made small changes to the grille,
They were matched up really well.
Cougar- the luxury version of the Mustang. a bit on the heavy side to. Wish this one had the ram air and a little stiffer rear gear but thats the way it goes.
Yeah more gear, Drag Pack Option would've been nice 3.91,s or 4.30,s with Detroit Locker, and a Top Loader 4-speed would be the icing on the cake. And Ram Air too.
In the video, i thought it said it had the ram air
@@tracewallace23 nyet! if u look at the engine picture you can see it doesnt have RA
Grudge [challenge] races are not subject to any such disqualification. There was a sign in our shop that was huge and across the top of the side wall, "No bracket racing spoken here."
335 HP was modest numbers the 428 scj were actually 425 HP
What really counts is "Not what you drive, but How you drive what you got" Super cool cars both.
Somebody mind explaining the point of the breakout rule? From what I gather, you're penalized for running a faster time in a race than you did in a qualifying round? Why is that? Seems pretty stupid to me.
In bracket racing the driver who runs quicker than his predicted ET looses. Bracket racing puts emphasis on driver skill. There is heads up racing where any 2 cars go at the same time and the first one to cross the finish line wins.
@@markg7030 with respect, I understand that. I don't get why you're disqualified if you run a faster time than your qualifying time. In this video the Buick ran a 13.96 in his qualifying round if I recall correctly but ran a 13.47 in the race and lost because he ran a quicker race time that his qualifying time. I don't understand the logic there. Seems counter-intuitive to penalize a driver for running his best race.
@@FunkyMonk4Life It prevents cheating known as "sand bagging". If I say my car runs 13.00 and your car runs 13.00 and I run 13.10 and you Run 13.20 then I win. If I run 12.90 then I'm disqualified for lying or I don't know my car well enough. Don't bracket race, race heads up that's what I explained.
@@markg7030 to start, this isn’t bracket racing. It’s heads-up with a breakout rule. Second, you can run faster than your qualifying time, but only a couple tenths. The Buick blew way past that.
@@theangrydragon182 You can't say it any better than what you said. It's amazing how many Idiots will comment on something like this that have No Clue, Can't understand the difference between Bracket Racing with a breakout, and Other types of Drag Racing which has a set Breakout et.
If there wasn't so much frost the Buick wouldn't have broke out but man there must have been A LOT of frost because that's how they did them....
Yeah baby Buick powa !!!
What the hell, that break out rule is stupid. Most cars are not going to run their fastest during their qualification run. So what happened to the minimum ET rule set for all cars in this class? Man, in my opinion, those Buick steel mags are the best looking wheels ever put on any classic muscle car. I used to own a '71 Buick Riviera with those wheels, posi-traction, and duel exhaust. Leaving the automatic transmission in Drive, it would flat out roast the tires in all the gears. Not good for the hole shot at all, but from a 40 mph roll off, hardly anyone could beat me.
I don’t understand why this is so difficult to comprehend. They give you 3/10 grace with breakout. If you can’t get your car dialed in during time trial to that amount and you don’t deserve to be on the drag strip.
I always wanted a cougar or a Cyclone. Love them
Just sold my 70' stage 1,, mildy built 455c.i 11:53 through the mufflers,, 3,900 lbs,
One of those cars had a wicked sounding exhaust...I assume it was the Buick but hard to tell.
What your hearing is 428 cubic inches of Cobra Jet Horse Power ! No I'm not sure that 455 Stage 1 was one of GM,s best, One of them had a mean exhaust tone tho.
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 Both marquees were at the zenith of push rod big block awesomeness.
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Maybe it was both. Like two guitars playing the same riff
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 I had one of those Buicks with the 455 stage 1. Just at idle with stock exhaust you could FEEL it as much hear the rumble, hard to hear the radio though (not that you wanted to most of the time). Quite the beast for sure.
I could pass anything on the road, except the gas station😏😀
Yup, stock manifolds on the Buick.
Cougar did incredibly well .....beautiful cars.
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A. Silver and Gold. Black vinyl roofs. Girls loved those cars too.. Those were the wildest times. Buick GS 455. Stage 1. North of NY city.. Taconic and sprained parkways. 150+. Lucky to be alive.. Bias tires half worn-out...I have True stories about those cars.....
Awesome The Buick !!!!😲🚘
If I remember correctly there was a handful of Boss 429 Eliminator cougars made. Anyway I think The Eliminator cougar was one of the sexiest cars ever😁
Two of them in 1969
Excellent drag race!
One of the few races where I was neutral...love em both...👍
The GS are the ultimate sleeper car. Highly underrates. The highest torque from the 60's and 70's of all muscle cars. Car and Driver said its the true stamp puller!!!. I. had. 2 - 70 455 GUs's.. Won most street races. 150 mph.easy.. Love those cars. I paid. 500 for one. And. $ 750 for other. Wow!!!!!.
Break out rule totally suck and should not be included in this type racing
Buick ever round lost due to the idiotic breakout rules
That’s why I quick racing, it runs what it runs
This is exactly why they SHOULD have a breakout rule. It stops sandbagging and creates closer matches for the best of 3. If you don’t have it then most match-ups would be blowouts. And it’s probably good you quit racing because you obviously don’t under the rules.
@@mitchroberts2457 Your exactly correct. I agree 100%
In Pure Stock Racing cars are paired together for eliminations according to their time trial times. If two cars aren't closely matched, they aren't run against each other. So you can't sandbag in the time trials and then run all out in the eliminations, as that would ruin the show. And this is a show - entertainment - not real professional racing with actual prize money. You want a horse race, not one car blowing away the other. Not sure what happened to the Buick. Sometimes cars will run a lot quicker late in the day after the car and the outside temps have cooled down, and I'd guess something like that is what happened here.
510 FT/LBS TORQUE AT 2800 rpm DAMN THAT'S AMAZING ... BUT STILL A
DISMAL SHOWING ...
I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE
HIGH 12'S .... ELIMITOR IS A BEAUTIFUL CAR WITHOUT ANY FASTBACK
440 FT/LBS IS IMPRESSIVE BUT AS ALWAYS SHAME ON FORD FOR THE CAST CRANK !!!!
Jim, cast cranks are fine for these applications. You'll never break one unless something else breaks FIRST. I was at the very first "Supercar Showdown" for "stock original muscle cars" ever held. It was in May '85 at Bowling Green, KY. The quickest pure stocker there was a 1970 GS Stage 1. Several bad-azz Hemi's, Boss 351 Mustangs and W-30 Olds never got out of the 14's. My point is that a 14-sec. Hemi would also be a "dismal showing". Performances of a given car are often all over the place. A lot has to do with so many factors.
Recomendado ...... 1970 Buick GSX VS Camaro Yenko 1970 🚘🚘😋👏😘
Did they change the breakout rules or something? Because they need to change them in the description
OK WE GET IT! There's a lot of fuckin frost out there and that's how u got those things! Damn! 🤣😂
Hate the bracket races. I llke straight out drag racing , fastest car wins.
biggest bank account wins that's why Drag racing big boys are struggling to get full fields of cars in professional classes. Bracket racing its the best car AND DRIVER !
This isn’t bracket racing moron.
@@theangrydragon182 8:55 of video ... when a car "Breaks out" that's Bracket racing. maybe between 2 cars but those are bracket racing rules also note a win with slower ET by getting to line first because of reaction time Also Bracket racing rules. I've been to some of these Pure Stock /Factory Stock races with all kinds of different rules But in this video if you award a win to a car that crossed second because of Breakout you're bracket racing.
It’s NOT a bracket race. They just put a breakout rule to prevent drivers from lying about what their car can run which is known as sandbagging. The organizers use the qualifying times to pair cars up for the best matchups. I wouldn’t want to race against someone who runs 1/2 second quicker than their qualifying ET. Would have zero chance of winning.
@@alfredodirks3537 A breakout rule does not mean bracket racing. Do you see the tree going at different rates on each side? No. Dumb moron this isn’t bracket racing. And what are you talking about? In any type of drag racing a person with a higher ET can win....The winner is who crosses the finish line 1st. Do you seriously not understand that the elapsed time does not start until the cars move? Reaction time is not included? Go back to drag racing 101.
Kudos to the Cougar driver making the GSX earn the win. Beautiful cars.
Pretty close.
Funny nobody mentions the fact that the '70 GSX stage1 was the FASTEST PRODUCTION CAR IN AMERICA beating out the big block corvette, the other A body big block cars, AND the venerable HEMI!!!!
Not many people know this...... Grandpa's Buick COULD stomp them ALL!!!
So the Buick was supposed to ride the brake.What a waste of time. We never got to see what the Buick could actually do.
What happened bro did you get laryngitis usually you're telling us all about the cars anyway another good video I'm going to take a guess at the Buick kicks butt on this one that's just my guess.
I prefer the cougar over the Buick both cars are nice.
The thing is those Cougars were nice drivers, could get right up on the freeways, but trying to outrun a Big block Buick, I don't know
OMG the driverside Eliminator sticker is soooo crooked it would drive me nuts!
just peel it off! No names, no stripes please. Looks super tacky.
Good thing you are too poor to own one! 💩
@@turboturd5289 and im most definitely ok with that. I would not buy a car that was effed up
I added my own voiceover and I really suck at it.
I'd like to see both of them run with 4.10
I can believe the GSX running low 13's...but the Eliminator? Sorry, myself, I don't buy it. I say this because in 1971 I had a bone stock '69 Roadrunner, 383 4spd, 3:23 posi. There were three of these Cougars where I lived, not one could beat my RR, pure stock form Also, in every article I have read, fastest muscle cars in 1970, seeing the yop 10, no Cougar to be found, the GSX was in the top 3 every time
The only Cougar I'll rock all night every night!
60 degrees, 41% humidity is a perfect recipe for a lot of frost
Also great intake temps for those hot running big blocks😎👍
The real skill here is racing with crap tires on a slick track.
Both these cars have so much meaning to me. My wife owned a 69’ RX7 390. Car was definitely a runner and looked so good in gold.
However the Buick GSX is probably my favorite car ever. Such a beautiful car and strong performer. Followed closely by the 70’ Chevelle 454 SS. Oh and a friends 70’ GMC Sprint 454.
Imagine showing up thinking your the king of the drag Strip and getting Smoked by Grandpa Buick Grocery Getter 🤣🤣🤣
Not quite even matched cars. 335hp in the Cougar against 360 in the Buick. 440 torque against 510. Torque wins races.
Pity we don't see any LS6 Chevelles in these videos
Oh theres a lotta frost out here this morning
The 428 CJ has a serious disadvantage in pure stock because Ford ruined it with the most awful flowing exhaust manifolds. On the other hand some Big Block Buick exhaust manifolds will flow well enough to support over 500 HP.
Buick 455 Exhaust manifolds restrict it alot sadly :( that is one reason I switched mine to Headers
Burick all day
Wasn't there a similar Cougar that was about $4800? and the most expensive car showcased on this channel?
What's the break out rule? I'm a total noob to drag racing
This rule explain it all
Why in the HELL would anyone have ever ordered one of these cars with an automatic transmission? If I was in the market for any muscle car, an auto would be an instant deal breaker. Jeez...
I was always a 4 speed fan and its much more dramatic but the consistency of an automatic is hard to beat. Just ask Herb "Mr 4 Speed" McCandless
@@adriangall9025 Oh, I totally agree with you on that point, but dammit, it's just more fun to row your own gears ( unless you're like in a 10 hour traffic jam, been there done that. Not fun. ) but generally...
A shit ton of frost that morning.
And don't forget the hp was lies back then to get around outrageous insurance prices ..all the manufactures did this
VIDEO IS PRETTY GOOD
JUST MISSING THE GREAT COMMENTARY !!!!!!
Groundhog Day at the Track!
They really messed up the driver side Eliminator letter... Would hate that so much
A 428 SCJ Cougar ran a 14.3 huh?
I guess I don't feel so bad then about my '67 cougar 302 only running a 16.0
It’s better with your voice. Still awesome though!
I dont see a ram air setup on the cougar... just a bolt on hood scoop.
this cougar was meant for the street, not for the track.
Screw dial in/ break out racing. Run heads up!
I would be surprised if either car got better than 10 mpg.
Who cares,too much fun
@@markbuchanan3694 I agreed but both can be true.
Know what would make this video better? Someone hyping these cars up like they deserve.
Give me a break, gear ratio is everything, the cougar was out geared
Buick gonna Buick.
I'd be MORE than happy to pay $33K for that GSX today, LOL.
Dude try $300,000!😍
@@paulschisler5594 YA, understood man. I'm not a rookie.
@@douglasstreet7304 You could of bought one for $4500 off the Showroom Floor in 1970 though. Darn it I missed out too.👎LOL.
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@@paulschisler5594 Remember it well.
I miss the funny guy that compared both race cars I'm a GM man or mopar himis
Those Buicks were beasts! GM was still foolish to keep them over Pontiac and Oldsmobile, though. 👎
So no matter what, if the Buick wins, he's disqualified
I thought that ads were tuned to who views this video, so why is there a women's deodorant before it?