HEATED!: 2 electricians ARGUE on the job

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  • Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
  • 00:00 episode preview
    00:30 background to the job
    01:15 fact the problem and the circuitry
    02:44 fault finding
    03:45 Heated: confusion on radial vs ring
    04:45 Del question Ken on what he's done
    05:30 identifying the faulty legs
    06:45 Ken queries Del's methods
    07:37 dodgy workmanship
    08:20 back to fault finding
    09:15 Del decides to disconnect everything
    10:30 heating up between Del and Ken
    11:30 job continues
    12:20 tracing out the circuit
    14:00 new point discovered on the circuit
    14:20 insulation resistance testing continues
    15:10 figuring out how the cables have been run
    22:00 faults identified
    25:00 explaining findings to the customer
    25:55 my closing thoughts

КОМЕНТАРІ • 152

  • @bigbud1978
    @bigbud1978 Місяць тому +73

    Ken ain’t telling all he knows 😂

    • @josephking6515
      @josephking6515 Місяць тому

      Maybe he is and he's coming up really short (no pun intended).

  • @HA05GER
    @HA05GER Місяць тому +84

    If hes legit why aint he got test equipment, i smell a rat.

    • @TheChipmunk2008
      @TheChipmunk2008 Місяць тому +5

      left it in the shed

    • @toddt6730
      @toddt6730 Місяць тому +4

      I work with people like that all the time, a lot of times they take off the same days I do so they don't like idiots trying to do the job

    • @eastwayelectrical
      @eastwayelectrical  Місяць тому +38

      Ken is retired he does the hod now and then. He's a good electrician who has ran big job in the past. However like many sparks of our vintage testing is not a strong point. Back in the day you just done a rewire and that was it no testing. On big projects they had sparkys who done testing but not the average electrician. The most a sparky would do in those days is use a wind up megger to check that a Pyro was "clear"

    • @davidcantona1774
      @davidcantona1774 Місяць тому +3

      Perhaps it was the rat that damaged the cable?

    • @HA05GER
      @HA05GER Місяць тому +2

      @@eastwayelectrical cheers for the info. Makes alot of sense

  • @user-ex8kq5hn4p
    @user-ex8kq5hn4p Місяць тому +9

    Point 1,safe isolation
    Point 2,disconnect all appliances
    Point 3
    ,test the ring at the db for continuous
    Point 4,split the ring somewhere in kitchen
    Point 5,test at 250v IR both legs
    Point 6,work out one side of the leg to the db if both faulty
    Very easy especially on two man’s job
    Credit to Dell for being patient
    Good job 👍

    • @Roadtripper1983
      @Roadtripper1983 Місяць тому +1

      Point before 1, with power on identify all sockets on the circuit.

  • @meethree6305
    @meethree6305 Місяць тому +51

    Delroy and Rodney

  • @carlbeech9497
    @carlbeech9497 Місяць тому +27

    If he hasn't got the testing equipment he had no buisness changing the board in the first place.

    • @eastwayelectrical
      @eastwayelectrical  Місяць тому +8

      Now a days that's true. But Ken is from the old school.

  • @CH-en4er
    @CH-en4er Місяць тому

    That was brilliant viewing ! This is life today. Great video Del

  • @blackdotkiller1
    @blackdotkiller1 Місяць тому +50

    If he doesn't have any test equipment, he shouldn't be touching boards or any electrics and should go back to college he is not a sparky he is a DIY er people like that kill people

    • @TheChipmunk2008
      @TheChipmunk2008 Місяць тому +4

      correct, he may have gone to college, with del, 40 yrs ago, and hasn't updated since .... sad situation.

    • @TheChipmunk2008
      @TheChipmunk2008 Місяць тому +3

      regs change, you should aim to comply... get some decent test gear, you don't need top of the line (the megger x-1 isn't it, i am sorry for delroy having to deal with it,. it's a heap of expensive junk)

    • @TheChipmunk2008
      @TheChipmunk2008 Місяць тому

      'earth is hazardous live'... no it isn't you stupid machine

    • @eastwayelectrical
      @eastwayelectrical  Місяць тому +15

      You know nothing about him. He's been in the trade for over 50 years and probably forgotten more than you know about electrical work. Also unlike you Morden day spark he is a "TIMED SERVED ELECTRICIAN" qualified and well trained in all aspect of the trade. He is neither "domestic or commercial " He is an electrician does it all. however like I said before testing is a problem for some of us.

    • @gazabeebles
      @gazabeebles Місяць тому +5

      @@eastwayelectrical if like you say hes time served with 50 years experience he should know how to test, there are first year apprentices with more testing experience than your boyfriend

  • @richierich8334
    @richierich8334 Місяць тому +24

    That guy (Delroy's mate) has been a Sparky for 50 odd years?? He's got the knowledge of a first year Apprentice, shocking.

    • @richierich8334
      @richierich8334 Місяць тому

      @@Walktheline1991 Yh, but he knows what he's doing.

    • @HeathWP
      @HeathWP Місяць тому +1

      @@Walktheline1991 That's not true mate

  • @Si6Si6
    @Si6Si6 Місяць тому +14

    Cheap and tearful

  • @frankieobrien2667
    @frankieobrien2667 Місяць тому +8

    Anonymous Ken isn't a spark. Getting the impression he's messed up and withholding information.

  • @P2DAPIPE
    @P2DAPIPE Місяць тому +12

    Sometimes it's easier and faster to work by yourself.

    • @eastwayelectrical
      @eastwayelectrical  Місяць тому +4

      yep agreed ken is a cool guy though and funny as hell.

  • @ewanbuik765
    @ewanbuik765 Місяць тому +5

    Cowboy Ken should be nowhere near a fuseboard until he gets a tester and learns how to test.

  • @paulstimpson8977
    @paulstimpson8977 Місяць тому +16

    No way, no way 2 Electricians going to argue, I can't see it

  • @Ryantg3611
    @Ryantg3611 7 днів тому +1

    The Ken Holdups!!! 😆😆😆😆
    0:15
    6:58
    7:16
    10:39
    11:25 - My Favorite 😆 Clearly hear the frustration before it cut off
    17:59
    18:54
    24:47

  • @benpatana7664
    @benpatana7664 Місяць тому +23

    Wish the guy would let Del get on with it. If he's such an expert why doesn't he fix it?

    • @eastwayelectrical
      @eastwayelectrical  Місяць тому +5

      Fault finding is not his strong point but he's a good spark

    • @ghostlywhimbrel
      @ghostlywhimbrel Місяць тому +1

      ​@eastwayelectrical a good spark, apart from fault finding. Oh and testing.

  • @hashimanwar243
    @hashimanwar243 23 дні тому +1

    Them wires look good from my house!
    Love the content mate keep it up as I’m a plumber and find electrical fault finds so interesting 👍🏼🙌🏽

  • @ianchristie7153
    @ianchristie7153 Місяць тому +3

    I'm a DIYer, my background is electronics. I would not do any electrical work without having a proper MFT. Bought a 2nd hand Metrel to check out any wiring I do.

  • @sephirothsoul999
    @sephirothsoul999 Місяць тому +7

    Del has the patience of a saint. Been watching for years now and it really comes across!

  • @ghostraider4312
    @ghostraider4312 Місяць тому +8

    Lol. Clearly this was a mickey mouse job.

  • @petercregg7525
    @petercregg7525 Місяць тому

    Good work dell. 👏. I would need to be on my own trying to sort a nightmare like that out. Nothing worse than someone in your ear lol 😆

  • @JosiahBuilder
    @JosiahBuilder Місяць тому +26

    Honestly delate Ken’s number that’s embarrassing!!!

  • @JACS14
    @JACS14 16 днів тому

    Just curious what are you using for video set up I see you have the rode microphone what camera are you using and rig

  • @stephenthompson1449
    @stephenthompson1449 Місяць тому +7

    Painful watch that, and Ken's the reason why there's so many accidents and fires! Ain't got a scooby doo

    • @eastwayelectrical
      @eastwayelectrical  Місяць тому +3

      I would guarantee Ken has forgotten more than you know

    • @stephenthompson1449
      @stephenthompson1449 Місяць тому +8

      @@eastwayelectrical I would suggest he goes on update courses then as playing with people's lives aint no joke

    • @michaelgirard4445
      @michaelgirard4445 Місяць тому

      @@stephenthompson1449 or retire from the trade

    • @joshcoupe556
      @joshcoupe556 Місяць тому +3

      ​@eastwayelectrical looks like your trying to defend ken, when it looks like he doesn't know much about the job.

    • @israeladesanya4596
      @israeladesanya4596 Місяць тому +2

      ​@eastwayelectrical that's his problem, too forgetfull

  • @Englishcobblestone
    @Englishcobblestone Місяць тому +1

    I usually power one leg up and go from that to next after taking all sockets off

  • @PanacheConnection
    @PanacheConnection 10 годин тому

    I'm no electrician but even I can understand that if the old fuse box was not tripping and the new one is It's means the old one is faulty. You can reinstall the old one and have electricity but you could also have an electric fire in the middle of the night. Loved the part where you and ur mate were trying to give each other advice Both interrupting each other and then it turns out you both had the same thing in mind.

  • @gallagr4
    @gallagr4 Місяць тому

    Great content thanks for sharing.

  • @rsdelectrical
    @rsdelectrical Місяць тому +1

    Think Ken had Barbie in doing the wiring for him by the looks of it 😂

  • @foppo101
    @foppo101 29 днів тому

    Ken sounded nervous.You took the lead and you know what you are doing.Respect.

  • @Spark101.
    @Spark101. Місяць тому +1

    You're not being told the truth on that job Del.....!

  • @sabreautomotive
    @sabreautomotive Місяць тому

    I know there is a lot of flak going around in the comments, and also you stood up for what you believe to be true, and best, which is very respectable and right of you.
    But all that aside, it makes for a very informative video to listen to all those small discussions and explanations, going through trouble shooting a problem. Without Ken there no checks or balances, I disagree heavily with people saying better working on your own. You both worked great together all in all.

  • @vexedimpulse
    @vexedimpulse Місяць тому

    I thought it could be an outside socket within that ring that has water inside of it.

  • @antoniomillan8211
    @antoniomillan8211 6 днів тому

    what's the device he's using to test with a screen?

  • @Simondofficial
    @Simondofficial Місяць тому +2

    maybe a nice guy but definitely shouldn't be an electrician

  • @andrewantony3787
    @andrewantony3787 Місяць тому +1

    ‘Try the other leg’
    ‘Do you mean pull the other leg delboy?’

  • @Englishcobblestone
    @Englishcobblestone Місяць тому

    I recon it’s a nail or a screw from the kitchen fitter

  • @muzikman2008
    @muzikman2008 Місяць тому +2

    Good grief.. Chancer DIY Dave no test equipment 😁 who installs a new board without testing first?

  • @danf6491
    @danf6491 Місяць тому

    Would have been quicker on ya own with a set of wagos to bell the wires out . I honestly thought it was either going to be vrong circuit in board or a lollipop. Im still confused as it seemed like you didnt have any continuity at the board from both legs together.

  • @andybuckland7660
    @andybuckland7660 Місяць тому +1

    How did he test the install after changing the board 😳

  • @walker1054
    @walker1054 Місяць тому +12

    *Any time ken opens his mouth*
    Del: hold up hold up listen. listen. the thing is.
    Also this is why I wish electricians or any tradespeople actually left notes or diagrams. Spend 3 hours doing just buzzing out and trying to find sockets and figuring out whats on the loop before even fixing anything and then the next person to go when theres a fault in a few years time will be spending 3 hours doing the same thing while also charging the customer £100 an hour. Why not just get a £1 sharpie and write on the backbox what number socket it is on the circuit. First socket on the circuit just write the number 1 on the backbox with an arrow pointing to the next sockets with number 2 written in it. So basic but no electrician will ever bother spending 2 mins doing that. If theres a spur off of one of the socets, lets say socket 3, then inside the spur on the back box write "3-1" again with an arrow pointing to socket 3. None of this "wheres the socket" rubbish while looking through kitchen cabinets and charging the customer £100/hour. I'm glad I do comms now, at least theres a decent chance jobs have diagrams showing how everthings connected.

    • @mikegmarshall
      @mikegmarshall Місяць тому +1

      Your not an electrician are you

    • @walker1054
      @walker1054 Місяць тому

      ​@@mikegmarshall nice reply mate. Totally adds to the conversation at all. You thinking someone needs specific skills to literally just suggest making notes really says a lot about your work though. Imagine getting salty about someone saying it would be nice to have diagrams lol. Might as well not mark up the consumer unit too, can't be making notes anywhere lol. Like I said I used to be one and now I mainly do Comms, most stuff is nicely labelled showing where it's all connected, no need to spend hours figuring out how a small circuit in a small room is connected. Mark up your consumer unit when you change them mate, don't make things a pain for us and del when we turn up years later

    • @walker1054
      @walker1054 Місяць тому

      ​@@mikegmarshallalso it's spelt "you're". Don't need to have lots of qualifications to know that either

  • @Mainly_Electrical
    @Mainly_Electrical Місяць тому +4

    Memberships available

  • @johndoe-cv4we
    @johndoe-cv4we Місяць тому +2

    Surely Ken would have performed Continuity and IR on the all the Kitchen circuits for the EIC???

    • @rodd8170
      @rodd8170 17 днів тому

      Ken didnt carry out an eic as orig consumer unit already disconnected.

  • @ashwinpais7423
    @ashwinpais7423 Місяць тому +1

    Nice isolation Delroy ……

  • @ail9483
    @ail9483 29 днів тому

    Interesting how old Ken suggested there may be a junction under units...

  • @thesilentonevictor
    @thesilentonevictor Місяць тому +2

    What a mess delroy and friend is applying pressure on you for coming to help him out sad smh

  • @user-rm8dt1ix6d
    @user-rm8dt1ix6d Місяць тому

    You're a good man

  • @thatstory1092
    @thatstory1092 3 години тому

    I don't know much abut electricity. But im hearing a lot of "maybe" and "are you sure" 😂

  • @birminghamelectricalservices
    @birminghamelectricalservices Місяць тому +1

    How is Ken changing a fuseboard without testing equipment?

  • @carl9976
    @carl9976 13 днів тому

    Looks to me like someone started a board change before doing any testing, did the testing when the board was out and told the customer they needed a rewire. Customer said ooooowwww much and got Ken in to finish the board change with no rewire 😂
    Old Kenny boy thought oh crap what have I got myself into and accidentally on purpose bumped into his old mate Del Boy. The end.
    All the best del 👍🏻😅

  • @DB25k
    @DB25k Місяць тому

    Professional people do things differently but achieve the same outcome. But their paths should not cross in case of conflict.

  • @T-Wrex1864
    @T-Wrex1864 Місяць тому +10

    Its just Ken who isn't a 10. A spark that is willing to fit a fuse board without any testing or a EICR. He asked for you to come to bail him out and I find him a little disrespectful of you tbh. Im only 17 mins in and although you say a builder or handyman should never work with electrics this dude is a spark. It does go to show that even a qualification doesnt make you fit to carry out electrical installation.

  • @aaronwarman71
    @aaronwarman71 Місяць тому +1

    Insulation should be greater than 999M, on every leg between live to neutral, live to earth and neutral to earth, that wiring ain't good.

    • @westleyjohnstone4719
      @westleyjohnstone4719 Місяць тому +7

      On a new install. A old damp house, very rarely

    • @Jay369
      @Jay369 Місяць тому

      Aaron is correct 👏 it "should" be above 999 but the real world dictates otherwise. In this instance greater than 1MegOhm is "acceptable/passable"

    • @westleyjohnstone4719
      @westleyjohnstone4719 Місяць тому

      @@Jay369 on a new install, with no load. Yeah he's right

    • @Jay369
      @Jay369 Місяць тому

      @@westleyjohnstone4719
      How many new installs have you tested at >999?
      You may want to read the regs.

    • @jonanders76
      @jonanders76 Місяць тому

      Not quite. BS7671 suggests a minimum of 1M Ohm. However, standard guidance (for example from the IET) is anything below 2M Ohms would suggest a latent defect/fault or break down of the circuits insulation. Above 2M ohms is perfectly acceptable on an older circuit (not great but acceptable) and may just be indicative of dampness or even cable length

  • @gadgetman36
    @gadgetman36 Місяць тому

    Too many cooks spoil the broth! 😂

  • @mathewashley3954
    @mathewashley3954 Місяць тому +1

    Ken doesn’t sound like he has a clue, which is very worrying if he’s a retired spark!

  • @pm1104
    @pm1104 Місяць тому +1

    Oh what a mess this is …! 😮

  • @rodd8170
    @rodd8170 17 днів тому

    Kitchen fitter special that one.🤣

  • @chriswilliams8121
    @chriswilliams8121 Місяць тому

    Wow no socket should be under a kitchen sink if there's a leak from the pipes it's going straight into it

  • @shaunhyatt8150
    @shaunhyatt8150 Місяць тому

    live chat?

  • @chr1s.c
    @chr1s.c Місяць тому

    Ooh bit of Drama

  • @nocode1603
    @nocode1603 Місяць тому

    That was a head bender your mate should listen instead of talking & the 3rd guy chiming in really really didn't help should have given him a £5 & sent him to the pictures & let you lead the way & he thought thayr was a jb under the unit??? Something not right 🤔🤔

  • @Davidhughes9467
    @Davidhughes9467 Місяць тому

    East v west Electrical

  • @H0meb0y666
    @H0meb0y666 2 дні тому

    I feel your pain

  • @MizunoIronMan
    @MizunoIronMan Місяць тому +1

    Failed to spot the electricians here..

  • @JohnstonPettigrew
    @JohnstonPettigrew 11 днів тому

    This is a story about a magical place......

  • @maff909
    @maff909 Місяць тому +2

    That wasnt all cool and the gang was it del

  • @jj_sutton
    @jj_sutton Місяць тому +1

    12:39 rahhhhteddd 🤣

  • @paulkramer2599
    @paulkramer2599 28 днів тому

    That was Hilarious ! 🤣

  • @danjason2167
    @danjason2167 28 днів тому

    I See, you have turned off the main breaker and first circuit whilst leaving all the others turned on. It's good practise to remove the load off the main switch from the furthest breaker and work back before, turning off the main switch. Likewise, you turn on the main switch and then the breakers one at a time. In other words, the main switch should have no load on it when it's being switched kn or off.

  • @richardprice4954
    @richardprice4954 Місяць тому

    I always keep a spanner next to a baked potato

  • @daveevans1236
    @daveevans1236 Місяць тому

    Was the other guy actually an electrician if he needs to call in Del to sort out a domestic wiring problem!

  • @robynwilliams3028
    @robynwilliams3028 8 днів тому

    TBH I don’t think either of them really know what’s going!!!!!

  • @frankiethompson3283
    @frankiethompson3283 Місяць тому +1

    Blind leading the blind to me to you

  • @patterdalezipsuzilil
    @patterdalezipsuzilil Місяць тому

    Me and my mate argued on every job basically I wanted to do do it propper he wanted to do it fast I thrown him a box of 1.5mm cable clips in the loft and then sneaked up the ladder and cought him tapping his hammer on the ceiling pretending to clip the cables 😂😂😂😂

  • @Smart-electrical
    @Smart-electrical Місяць тому

    Benefit from having a wander lead

  • @tonywebb9909
    @tonywebb9909 Місяць тому

    I like Ken

  • @malloymdleeds8280
    @malloymdleeds8280 Місяць тому

    I aint even no sparky but ken was doing my box in 😂😂😂😂😂 ken needs to just cuddle up with Barbie lol

  • @Dbdiagnosticsltd
    @Dbdiagnosticsltd Місяць тому

    How's your old college friend this bad at electrics? I'm not even qualified and feel I know more than him, I can understand what your doing without you even saying what your doing.
    He's clueless and obviously didn't do an EICR before installing the new board, he's probably getting from his customer as they can't use the kitchen since he replaced the board!

  • @spaggtrait1608
    @spaggtrait1608 Місяць тому

    Well while I'm biased towards our man, you have to be fair, he is shooting ken down before he can even finish a sentence. 🤭

  • @hvaccuffingit6471
    @hvaccuffingit6471 Місяць тому

    Always carry a wago or r1 r2 link. Better than a Ken.

  • @MrSporkster
    @MrSporkster 28 днів тому

    Ken! Ken! Ken! Ken! Ken! Ken! Ken! Ken! Ken! Ken! Ken!

  • @maddogpro85
    @maddogpro85 Місяць тому

    I don't care what you say he bodged the job up should have never have done it without testing its dangerous its that simple no excuses he's old school so what he's dangerous also if hes changing board why not the wires as well as they are old type and colours ?

  • @Zelahb2930
    @Zelahb2930 Місяць тому +2

    He ain't no spark. You can't be a spark without test equipment just a chancer. Retire

    • @matthewhammond859
      @matthewhammond859 Місяць тому +1

      Everyone's talking about test equipment but what about proper knowledge of bs7671?

    • @Zelahb2930
      @Zelahb2930 Місяць тому

      @@matthewhammond859 well yeah that as well, but he can't verify it if he doesn't know the basics. It's people like him that will kill people.

    • @Zelahb2930
      @Zelahb2930 6 днів тому

      @@matthewhammond859 and that

  • @leem270
    @leem270 Місяць тому

    How embarrassing in front of the customer! Sounds like ken might be the next screwfix sparky

  • @DavidBliault
    @DavidBliault Місяць тому +3

    Embarrassing

  • @makg4655
    @makg4655 Місяць тому +1

    If there was no board there then how did he know what cables were for what ?? Very odd another 🐂 💩 story 🤔🤔😂😂😂

  • @aadd3538
    @aadd3538 Місяць тому

    "Lucky" Ken is clueless.
    Lucky for decades.

  • @Diddy147
    @Diddy147 Місяць тому

    It seems like your partner for the day has never seen a piece of test equipment before nor has he done any fault finding lol

  • @malikrabnawaz9206
    @malikrabnawaz9206 Місяць тому

    Good g Pakistan I'm from Pakistan

  • @daveevans1236
    @daveevans1236 Місяць тому

    Ken needs a career change

  • @ljtr2112
    @ljtr2112 Місяць тому +2

    Why keeping swapping testers.. your MFT does everything you need

    • @dangraves7808
      @dangraves7808 Місяць тому +2

      I think it was confusing Ken 😂

  • @thedon7536
    @thedon7536 Місяць тому

    Think your mate needs to retire before he kills someone, doesn’t even have tester ? How did he ever passes his exams 😮😮😮

    • @TonyRule
      @TonyRule Місяць тому +2

      He IS retired.

  • @MEGAONE302
    @MEGAONE302 22 дні тому +1

    Get the hammer out. :)

  • @FrankieBoy-wn6qt
    @FrankieBoy-wn6qt 27 днів тому

    Why hasn’t he got his own test equipment 🫣🫣🫣🫣

  • @schmuuth_dot_com3202
    @schmuuth_dot_com3202 15 днів тому

    TBH I hate to criticise on YT - since it's mainly entertainment for me - but there is no such thing as a 'time served electrician' who can't grasp the basics - testing and the regs have been around for too long for people to plead ignorance - Also - you basically need to be able to spell 'kitchen' (not 'kitch') when you label up. Not being a snob but if you can't, it's highly questionable whether you u/s BS 7671. Glad you're there to pick up the pieces otherwise somebody might still die.