I checked with my iPhone 12 speakers turned into horizontal mode just to see how it translates to that system. Even though people would listen to music with earphones, sometimes when it’s UA-cam they do watch with phone speakers. For example, you post a music video or a video with your track. And for convenience many people don’t use their earphones at home. Anyway, checking with the tiny speakers flipped I can hear an increase of sustain in the harmonic parts. Like the synths lasting longer and coming a bit forward. Also when you increased the low end it started to ruin everything so I was hoping you would turn it down haha for these speakers I wouldn’t put them on 3db, and then the mix blend could be more towards the multiband, instead of 53%. I think it’s just the low end that gets super dangerous on the saturation for small speakers. They can’t handle low end and then it masks all the other frequencies. I’m gonna get the plug-in today. And I love Gulfoss even in most individual tracks, except vocals.
I’d say it comes out on top but that’s my opinion. You should do a free trial demo and compare yourself as that’ll be the best way to know for sure in the context of your own taste/preferences!
Srry I'm listening to it in a phone couldn't quite hear any diff. 87 percent of listeners listen to music on mobile phones walking through the mall. not using headphones
@@MrTheropod awesome so if you didn't have headphones you wouldn't hear the diff so you would need to borrow headphones if you were on a plane?? Okay fair enough
@@jt3production936 I am sure you are not alone trying to listen to a mixing tutorial on a phone without headphones but that must be totally wasted time though😁. I'm not with you that most people listening to the music without headphones though. Here in sweden I see almost none. Almost everyone listening to their devises on headphones and that's why I commented that the difference is quite big in headphones. You can't make music just for the people walking trough malls with their music on speaker. Like I said, here they would probably be in the 0,1%....
@@MrTheropod I get it but want you are listening to coming Fr m a plugin what is know as perceived loudness that's why tutorials ask you to wear head phones or good studio monitors so you can actually hear the perceived loudness. Paid for plugins or free plugins a lot of mastering engineers are using poor studio quality speakers in order for the sound to translate no matter on headphones car speakers speakerphone etc. I totally understand where you are coming From as well
It's a bit odd to judge this (or anything) while listening to a mobile phone walking through the mall as you say. It's one thing to passively listen and just have a vibe in the background, but another to actively listen and make key judgements as you are. Doesn't sound like that's the right environment or vantage point to really analyze a mix - I know it wouldn't be for me at least. If I was mixing and optimizing this mix JUST for the small cell phone speaker, then I probably would've cranked this plugin significantly more so the cell phone speaker listeners hear it specifically, but then the problem would be it wouldn't translate as well for the other mediums out there. Throughout this video, I purposely dialled things back at various moment and tried to keep it subtle/transparent on purpose (which I mentioned quite a few times throughout - you should've seen me do it too as I go back and refresh settings such as around 15:40 to specifically achieve a more "transparent" sound) In your defence, maybe I could've made the intro example much more heavy handed just to prove a point but my style is to show you realistic scenarios of how I use plugins like this, which I achieved here. This is a real world scenario of how I used it, no BS. Mixing is often a balancing act and the reality is, I make mixing decisions while being considerate of ALL potential listening points, including ear buds, cell phone speaker, the car, big speakers, small speakers and so on. I doubt 87% of people do the same as you say - in fact, when I google it, I've found a few reports saying 87% to 93% of people use headphones above all (but honestly, there aren't any solid stats / studies that are undeniable, so I'll put that to the side for now) The point is, whats true for you is not exactly true for all. As someone else commented - the difference is pretty significant if you listen on just about anything else, including headphones, speakers, subwoofers, and the like. As an aside, pay attention to how the mix sounds as I increase the drive around 7:40 and let me know if you still feel there is no difference, especially when I make it really *hot* before dialling back. The plugin obviously alters how things sound - its up to the user (you) to push it to where you want. I personally find the difference is much more noticeable when I BYPASS the plugin, rather than put it in. Without it, it just loses that *oomph* - even in a gain-matched situation. Either way, I recommend if the plugin interests you at all, you pursue the free trial to see for yourself the level of impact it has on a mix before fully making your mind up on my short video here.
I'm not sure I'm understanding. Can you elaborate on your point here? "you can never use them for masters" - I'd have to disagree. Plenty of mixers clip the masters. Perhaps in the olden days before digital audio really took over, your point would be valid since the loudness wars didn't really exist, and music was much more dynamic as a whole - but today, this is a pretty standard process, especially to squeeze volume. Doesn't mean you ALWAYS have to do it - but its certainly a technique / tool that some of the biggest names in music explore. In terms of "no clipper is different" - I suppose in terms of general outcome, all clippers can be the same (they all clip the audio) but the functionality of this plugin- particularly with the blending of two different saturation curves (single vs. multiband) and having the built-in clipper - overall, this plugin does some very impressive stuff that I haven't been able to quite match with others. Plus. the fact that I was in MATCH mode for most of this video, and the changes were THAT noticeable, is telling, Overall, I'd say based on that alone KRAFTUR is very different - but to each his own. It's certainly replaced the clippers that I used in the past.
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I checked with my iPhone 12 speakers turned into horizontal mode just to see how it translates to that system. Even though people would listen to music with earphones, sometimes when it’s UA-cam they do watch with phone speakers. For example, you post a music video or a video with your track. And for convenience many people don’t use their earphones at home. Anyway, checking with the tiny speakers flipped I can hear an increase of sustain in the harmonic parts. Like the synths lasting longer and coming a bit forward. Also when you increased the low end it started to ruin everything so I was hoping you would turn it down haha for these speakers I wouldn’t put them on 3db, and then the mix blend could be more towards the multiband, instead of 53%. I think it’s just the low end that gets super dangerous on the saturation for small speakers. They can’t handle low end and then it masks all the other frequencies. I’m gonna get the plug-in today. And I love Gulfoss even in most individual tracks, except vocals.
How does this compare to slate digital’s FG X2 ? Or an AI one?
I’d say it comes out on top but that’s my opinion. You should do a free trial demo and compare yourself as that’ll be the best way to know for sure in the context of your own taste/preferences!
Now imagine if they put a LUFS tracker in there so you could have it adjust real time to the loudness of the audio 🤓
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Srry I'm listening to it in a phone couldn't quite hear any diff. 87 percent of listeners listen to music on mobile phones walking through the mall. not using headphones
Actually, In my mobile earphones the difference was big, not subtle at all....
@@MrTheropod awesome so if you didn't have headphones you wouldn't hear the diff so you would need to borrow headphones if you were on a plane?? Okay fair enough
@@jt3production936 I am sure you are not alone trying to listen to a mixing tutorial on a phone without headphones but that must be totally wasted time though😁. I'm not with you that most people listening to the music without headphones though. Here in sweden I see almost none. Almost everyone listening to their devises on headphones and that's why I commented that the difference is quite big in headphones. You can't make music just for the people walking trough malls with their music on speaker. Like I said, here they would probably be in the 0,1%....
@@MrTheropod I get it but want you are listening to coming Fr m a plugin what is know as perceived loudness that's why tutorials ask you to wear head phones or good studio monitors so you can actually hear the perceived loudness. Paid for plugins or free plugins a lot of mastering engineers are using poor studio quality speakers in order for the sound to translate no matter on headphones car speakers speakerphone etc. I totally understand where you are coming From as well
It's a bit odd to judge this (or anything) while listening to a mobile phone walking through the mall as you say.
It's one thing to passively listen and just have a vibe in the background, but another to actively listen and make key judgements as you are. Doesn't sound like that's the right environment or vantage point to really analyze a mix - I know it wouldn't be for me at least.
If I was mixing and optimizing this mix JUST for the small cell phone speaker, then I probably would've cranked this plugin significantly more so the cell phone speaker listeners hear it specifically, but then the problem would be it wouldn't translate as well for the other mediums out there.
Throughout this video, I purposely dialled things back at various moment and tried to keep it subtle/transparent on purpose (which I mentioned quite a few times throughout - you should've seen me do it too as I go back and refresh settings such as around 15:40 to specifically achieve a more "transparent" sound)
In your defence, maybe I could've made the intro example much more heavy handed just to prove a point but my style is to show you realistic scenarios of how I use plugins like this, which I achieved here. This is a real world scenario of how I used it, no BS.
Mixing is often a balancing act and the reality is, I make mixing decisions while being considerate of ALL potential listening points, including ear buds, cell phone speaker, the car, big speakers, small speakers and so on.
I doubt 87% of people do the same as you say - in fact, when I google it, I've found a few reports saying 87% to 93% of people use headphones above all (but honestly, there aren't any solid stats / studies that are undeniable, so I'll put that to the side for now)
The point is, whats true for you is not exactly true for all. As someone else commented - the difference is pretty significant if you listen on just about anything else, including headphones, speakers, subwoofers, and the like.
As an aside, pay attention to how the mix sounds as I increase the drive around 7:40 and let me know if you still feel there is no difference, especially when I make it really *hot* before dialling back. The plugin obviously alters how things sound - its up to the user (you) to push it to where you want.
I personally find the difference is much more noticeable when I BYPASS the plugin, rather than put it in. Without it, it just loses that *oomph* - even in a gain-matched situation.
Either way, I recommend if the plugin interests you at all, you pursue the free trial to see for yourself the level of impact it has on a mix before fully making your mind up on my short video here.
No clipper is different lmao you can never use them for masters
I'm not sure I'm understanding. Can you elaborate on your point here?
"you can never use them for masters" - I'd have to disagree. Plenty of mixers clip the masters. Perhaps in the olden days before digital audio really took over, your point would be valid since the loudness wars didn't really exist, and music was much more dynamic as a whole - but today, this is a pretty standard process, especially to squeeze volume. Doesn't mean you ALWAYS have to do it - but its certainly a technique / tool that some of the biggest names in music explore.
In terms of "no clipper is different" - I suppose in terms of general outcome, all clippers can be the same (they all clip the audio) but the functionality of this plugin- particularly with the blending of two different saturation curves (single vs. multiband) and having the built-in clipper - overall, this plugin does some very impressive stuff that I haven't been able to quite match with others. Plus. the fact that I was in MATCH mode for most of this video, and the changes were THAT noticeable, is telling,
Overall, I'd say based on that alone KRAFTUR is very different - but to each his own. It's certainly replaced the clippers that I used in the past.
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@@5piece Im not reading all of that word salad with extra croutons. Still sounds Bad lmao
I don’t know
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