Simon Jordan & Martin Keown CLASH Over If Chelsea Have Experienced A 'MASSIVE' Fall From Grace 🔥

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  • talkSPORT's Simon Jordan and Martin Keown debate if Chelsea have experienced a fall from grace and the future of Mauricio Pochettino.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 431

  • @averageinternetuser95
    @averageinternetuser95 4 місяці тому +314

    It must hurt Martin Keown's tremendously large ego that the best Arsenal team in 20 years won the same amount of trophies as the worst Chelsea team in the same period of time!

    • @curtiscoombs5193
      @curtiscoombs5193 4 місяці тому +6

      I guess you think this chelsea team is better than arsenal team lol 😂

    • @Mal_Freeman0451
      @Mal_Freeman0451 4 місяці тому +55

      ​@@curtiscoombs5193That's nowhere near what he said...

    • @CJ4YRD
      @CJ4YRD 4 місяці тому +32

      Arguably we had a better season 😂 we made it to a final

    • @TDOTSE1
      @TDOTSE1 4 місяці тому +5

      ​@@CJ4YRD what.... and got beat by academy players 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @jackreynolds975
      @jackreynolds975 4 місяці тому +11

      @@TDOTSE1 Guess it’s similar to bottling the league by losing a home game when it mattered most

  • @falgunighosh5779
    @falgunighosh5779 4 місяці тому +117

    So, Chelsea buying Mudryk is a bad transfer which is a huge fault of the owners but Chelsea getting rescued by also-newly-bought Palmer is just down to luck. Hmm...

    • @dannyduggan4324
      @dannyduggan4324 4 місяці тому +2

      Palmer and Gusto have been great signings.
      If you are going to slate them for bad signings (which is fair), you have to praise them when they get it right.
      Plus Petrovic has been decent and Madueke, Caicedo and Jackson are improving.

    • @darren6076
      @darren6076 4 місяці тому

      Caicedo has been poor. Looks like a £10m player not over £100m.

  • @mjay1714
    @mjay1714 4 місяці тому +222

    Why is Martin worrying about Chelsea when Arsenal ain’t winning 💩

    • @aminckone.
      @aminckone. 4 місяці тому +2

      Arsenal are in the Chamipions league. Chelsea are not...

    • @deckard86
      @deckard86 4 місяці тому +44

      @@aminckone. Chelsea have won the thing twice. Arsenal have not...

    • @arranmelaugh5606
      @arranmelaugh5606 4 місяці тому +17

      @@deckard86there’s no answer to that for arsenal fans 😂

    • @eiler1987
      @eiler1987 4 місяці тому +14

      @@aminckone. it’s cool to be in it. But even better to lift it. (x2)
      “Champions of Europe you can’t say that”

    • @peluminova2515
      @peluminova2515 4 місяці тому +12

      ​@@aminckone. Arsenal fans act like they're in it to win it lol.
      Jokers

  • @Neo_Rain146
    @Neo_Rain146 4 місяці тому +74

    My word Keown is full of nonsense. No Chelsea fan thought we were going for the title this season. We would’ve been happy with top 4. We got Europe which is acceptable under the circumstances. Yes we spent a lot but with new owners, a whole bunch of players going and new ones coming in then by all metrics this young team has done ok. Why wasn’t he waffling this a couple seasons ago when his team kept finishing 8th?

    • @user-rp1td1qf7u
      @user-rp1td1qf7u 4 місяці тому +9

      Keown also skipping over the fact that over the season Chelsea have had the most injuries in the league by a considerable distance, 52 injuries over the course of the season Newcastle were 2nd with 36

    • @Neo_Rain146
      @Neo_Rain146 4 місяці тому +3

      @@user-rp1td1qf7u Exactly, that never gets mentioned but I see Erik Ten Hag use it as an excuse every press conference and we’ve had more injuries than them! Arteta blamed last seasons bottle job on saliba being injured. Fact is the season wasn’t great but acceptable as it’s something to build on. Had we finished 10th it would’ve been a lot harder to accept. The team just needs a proven goalscorer, a decent CB and a bit more cutting edge next season and I think we can surprise a lot of people.

    • @user-rp1td1qf7u
      @user-rp1td1qf7u 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Neo_Rain146back 4 when fit would be James fofana colwill chillwell and how many games have they played between them,lavia has literally played about 30 minutes all season, nkunku has hardly featured and Fernandez has been playing with an injury majority of season

  • @GOATBryan10
    @GOATBryan10 4 місяці тому +66

    Martin worrying about Chelsea when the best Arsenal team in 20 years have just gone a 4th consecutive season without a trophy lol 😂

    • @mikem8211
      @mikem8211 4 місяці тому +3

      Thank god the worse Arsenal team of all time won 4 FA Cups in the decade before that. We ain't Spurs bro 😂

    • @nobbyplies5285
      @nobbyplies5285 4 місяці тому +1

      @@mikem8211 hee hee

    • @VictorVonDoom.
      @VictorVonDoom. 4 місяці тому +1

      That’s not factually correct tho isn’t
      04/05 team were better
      05/06 team were better
      07/08 team were just as good as the current team

    • @Iamwhatyousayiam
      @Iamwhatyousayiam 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@mikem8211so down you need to bring spurs into the convo to make you feel better 💀💀

  • @kenadams5918
    @kenadams5918 4 місяці тому +27

    Simon Jordan simply doesn’t lose these debates, love him 😂

    • @bluemoon1716
      @bluemoon1716 4 місяці тому +6

      It's a pretty low bar to be honest. Martin isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. Anytime Simon goes up against any intelligent person he folds

    • @pigchamp3627
      @pigchamp3627 4 місяці тому

      Gay

    • @DJCoates91
      @DJCoates91 4 місяці тому +1

      he’s a clown and tries to bamboozle with big words. Terrible hypocrite and terrible former club owner.

  • @nametsego
    @nametsego 4 місяці тому +146

    "We haven't got money to waste at arsenal football club" Spent 700 million with arteta and have won less than Chelsea lmaoo

    • @yemi9196
      @yemi9196 4 місяці тому +3

      Maybe because chelsea has spent 2 billion pounds in that same time

    • @ET.1506
      @ET.1506 4 місяці тому +1

      @@yemi9196we have a net spend of around £600 million pounds in the past 5 years

    • @yemi9196
      @yemi9196 4 місяці тому +2

      looking at what arsenal was before the less that 700 million spend. Where they are now is an achievement.
      Chelsea spent 2billion on a team that just won the champions league and they came 6th in the league. Somehow their fans are happy with it

    • @si4632
      @si4632 4 місяці тому

      Difference is Chelsea also sell players for big money ​@@yemi9196

    • @thegamehelperz2746
      @thegamehelperz2746 4 місяці тому +21

      ​@@yemi9196😂😂now it's 2 billions? A champions league is something u will never witness in your arsenal supporter lifetime😂😂😂

  • @CJ4YRD
    @CJ4YRD 4 місяці тому +58

    This is gonna be the biggest bit of cinema if Chelsea can complete a rebuild and win the league again before arsenal 😂

    • @lukecritten4050
      @lukecritten4050 4 місяці тому +14

      It will happen. Not If. It will.

    • @CJ4YRD
      @CJ4YRD 4 місяці тому +4

      @lukecritten4050 I wish I could be that confident.. but with the clowns upstairs we can only hope 🤣

    • @claudemakelele2856
      @claudemakelele2856 4 місяці тому +3

      It will happen. For sure

    • @doubleeph8920
      @doubleeph8920 4 місяці тому +3

      I told a mate over the weekend exactly this!

    • @Insertnamehere287
      @Insertnamehere287 4 місяці тому

      Oh Mate I’d bet on it, Arsenal are specialists in failure

  • @manofthenorth6372
    @manofthenorth6372 4 місяці тому +25

    Did Chelsea have a good season?
    - went to a cup final
    - went to a cup semi-final
    - finished 6 places above from where they were last season.
    - bought a completely new sqaud and still better than Man U
    - only 3 points behind spurs
    - in 2024 accumulated 4 most points.

    • @andymore62
      @andymore62 4 місяці тому

      You cannot be serious. Second highest wages in the league, most transfer fees spent in the last few years, and it took a huge charge to even get into Europe. Newcastle, United, and Spurs all had bad seasons and lots of injuries, and Chelsea still couldn’t make top 4.

    • @BLGClipsx
      @BLGClipsx 4 місяці тому +2

      ⁠@@andymore62you do know Chelsea had the most injuries this season right? It’s funny how you brought up injuries for Newcastle, spurs, and United but not for the MOST injured team in the league this season. You’re a funny guy 🤡😂

    • @andymore62
      @andymore62 4 місяці тому

      @@BLGClipsx Who were your big injuries? Fofana? He’s been hurt his whole career, same with Reece James, and Nkunku. Pretending Chelsea, the biggest spenders with the second highest wage bill, had a good season back dooring into Europa is mental illness.

    • @dt73034
      @dt73034 4 місяці тому +3

      @@BLGClipsxthis guy just pullin stats out of his ass 😂😂😂😂 second highest wage bill when we only have 2 players over 200k a week and that’s Sterling who’s probably leaving next month and James who’s our captain and best player lol, and we had more injuries than any team in history of prem this season 😂😂😂

    • @grndouwn7338
      @grndouwn7338 4 місяці тому

      @@tevildo45and yet still the same amount of trophies as arsenal

  • @kaushiksaha5671
    @kaushiksaha5671 4 місяці тому +11

    Boehly and co have had to replace Kante, Kovacic, Jorginho, Mount - the entire UCL winning midfield,
    Azpi, Alonso, Rudiger, Christensen - their UCL winning back 4,
    Pulisic, Havertz, Werner, Ziyech - all their UCL winning forwards,
    Kepa, Mendy - all their UCL GKs. Some were getting old, some were out of contract, some were not consistent enough. Not to mention having to replace CHO, RLC, Emerson, Gilmour, Batshuayi and other squad players too. It is important to keep in mind the context while talking about the 1 billion spend. They did not add to the UCL squad but completely overhauled it!

    • @chelseafc8563
      @chelseafc8563 4 місяці тому +2

      @@tevildo45 many forget the sanctions put in place for Chelsea. Under that transfer ban we were unable to buy or sell players and also unable to negotiate new contracts for the players currently owned! So all with this financial situation, UK government forcing Roman to sell, freezing assets, etc…most players has to go

    • @harryevans1347
      @harryevans1347 4 місяці тому +1

      @@tevildo45 Your conveniently forgetting the transfer ban, Our Club being taken away from us by the UK gov, New owners came in and sold the first team, thats happened and thats the truth, OBVIOUSLY the owners had their way of going forward, it was bold and its starting to pay dividends, also that was THEN ,this is NOW. so your comment makes no sense its just moronic and salty.

  • @Omidan
    @Omidan 4 місяці тому +29

    Arsenal won the participation trophy 🏆

  • @emmanuelumoren5230
    @emmanuelumoren5230 4 місяці тому +23

    Martin Keown finished his career as a footballer & became a clown. Every Chelsea fan didn't expect to ein titles this season. A team of youngsters put together in same season? No chance. Qualifying for European football is a good start. Getting to 2 domestic cup semifinals is a good start. This Chelsea team will likely win another league & European title before arsenal, yet again.

    • @yemi9196
      @yemi9196 4 місяці тому +1

      Chelsea fans wants arsenal fans to be sad for getting 2nd in the league and qualifying for champions league but are happy to be 6th and qualifying for Europa league. You really can't make this up

    • @thegamehelperz2746
      @thegamehelperz2746 4 місяці тому +1

      Well said, arsenal fan comparing themselves to this current Chelsea team just show that they reached their ceiling already😂😂. We are the last London club holding the biggest trophy and they can't do sh*t about it even when we struggle with problems and the gouvernement interven to give them a boost.😂😂😂

    • @richardsather6010
      @richardsather6010 4 місяці тому

      One thing that both Arsenal and Chelsea hsve in common is that they so far the glory days that they are unable to recruit the greatest players in football. All that they can attract are "has beens".

    • @thegamehelperz2746
      @thegamehelperz2746 4 місяці тому +3

      @@richardsather6010 only real Madrid can recruit the greatest players u are talking about. Ppl recruit potentials and those become world class if not they were has been. U just need to look at city's team to understand that so the unable to recruit greatest players statement is false😮‍💨😮‍💨

    • @emmanuelumoren5230
      @emmanuelumoren5230 4 місяці тому +1

      @@thegamehelperz2746 thanks for your beautiful response. Apt

  • @seasonedbeefs
    @seasonedbeefs 4 місяці тому +10

    Champions of Europe, you'll never sing that. Sit down shut up keown
    😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉

  • @oshanepagon2121
    @oshanepagon2121 4 місяці тому +39

    CLOWN KEOWN 😂😂 his words 'im confident arsenal will win the title" did they ??😂😂

  • @Olaami
    @Olaami 4 місяці тому +5

    Martin Keown expect so much of Chelsea, but always find excuses for Arsenal who haven't won the league in 20 years, or any european trophy ever. What a joker

  • @CiaranChelsea
    @CiaranChelsea 4 місяці тому +36

    They won the champions league your absolutely right. Something Arsenal has not done 🤣🤣🤣

    • @bickenbackbeinbool771
      @bickenbackbeinbool771 4 місяці тому +3

      Loved it!!😂😂😂

    • @yemi9196
      @yemi9196 4 місяці тому

      Chelsea not closing to having the 13 league titles arsenal have.

    • @CiaranChelsea
      @CiaranChelsea 4 місяці тому +7

      @@yemi9196 okay mate. Still
      A bit bitter from yesterday. Go home

    • @Graziak5
      @Graziak5 4 місяці тому +9

      @@yemi9196Chelsea will win 13 titles before Arsenal win 2 champions leagues

    • @FirstLast-ur6xt
      @FirstLast-ur6xt 4 місяці тому +5

      @@Graziak5before Arsenal win 1*

  • @IMAC1776
    @IMAC1776 4 місяці тому +51

    There isn’t one Chelsea supporter in the country thought Chelsea were going for the title this season. Very few thought Chelsea could finish higher than 6th after the carnage Boehly caused in 2022-23.

    • @Nick-ht5yi
      @Nick-ht5yi 4 місяці тому +3

      Some people just intentionally ignore context to push the narrative they want to see play out. Last season was no doubt disgraceful, but it's insane to think someone can look at this season and think Chelsea is still falling

  • @bizzareblackout8073
    @bizzareblackout8073 4 місяці тому +8

    Please never get Mr Arsenal to talk about Chelsea 😭. Simon cooked

  • @MeiA-h9r
    @MeiA-h9r 4 місяці тому +5

    I don’t want to hear from Arsenal fans about Chelsea
    Two seasons of bottling the league and coming close doesn’t erase the fact that the last 20 years where Arsenal have been drowning in mediocrity, Chelsea have been winning trophies left and right and not just participating like Arsenal were
    Pipe it down Gooners, Pipe it down

  • @mrgzola25
    @mrgzola25 4 місяці тому +5

    Martin forgets Arsenal went 7 years without being in the Champions League. Very short memory

  • @Photosoflife
    @Photosoflife 4 місяці тому +22

    Somewhere along the line a lot of people, including these pundits, appear to have forgotten Chelsea finished 12th last season with only 44 points. Chelsea not only finished with 63 points, a 19 point improvement over last season but also finished 6th and are literally the youngest side in the entire EPL. Finally, these pundits mocked Poch for previously bringing up the fact Chelsea are actually 4th in xG this season. The reality is points won and only points won matter at the end of the day. But Chelsea have literally won the 4th most points in the league since the start of January. What has happened is Chelsea’s young talented side is not only coming together but they are actually finishing their chances. Because Chelsea have actually dominated and outshot the vast majority of their opponents, even in matches they drew and lost. They have actually been playing to their exact xG for the second half of the season. Poch should definitely stay and anybody who objectively watches Chelsea know they have a ton of talent and have massively improved this season.

    • @DominoEffect2528
      @DominoEffect2528 4 місяці тому

      Seriously, no one cares about xG's. It's such an overused metric. Only goals win games.
      Officials aren't chalking up expected goals on a separate scoreboard and deciding the results on that.

    • @Photosoflife
      @Photosoflife 4 місяці тому +6

      @DominoEffect2528
      You must not have read my original post carefully.

    • @chevarradio3854
      @chevarradio3854 4 місяці тому +1

      Chelsea always have been playing well sometimes its the mentality of the boys and the manager changes plus they young some only coming for the first some still not settled in London and the new owners it takes time to get comfortable and settled with a club your new too new staff new team mates some guys are lucky to have countrymen to rally on but I think the way we just ended this season next season we might jus blow the opps away

  • @carefreedax1905
    @carefreedax1905 4 місяці тому +9

    Finish midtable for one season and the whole club is doomed 🤦‍♂️😂😂 we’ve only been out of Europe for ONE season and now we’re already back in. New owners, new players, lots of injuries and we finished 6th. Not bad, must do better though. If Chelsea are failures for not being instantly successful then what are United?

  • @martinharvey580
    @martinharvey580 4 місяці тому +41

    Marton Keown has no clue what he on about half the time.

    • @Dalwhat
      @Dalwhat 4 місяці тому

      Chelsea won as much as Arsenal did.

    • @David-h1f4r
      @David-h1f4r 4 місяці тому

      Even when he is reading a script and being prompted by the producers. These are all in the biggest $hit bubble . This channel allows cowards , racists , . These have no respect for themselves and yet talksPOOrt peddle them out every day.

    • @arranmelaugh5606
      @arranmelaugh5606 4 місяці тому +4

      Just spouts anything arsenal

    • @seasonedbeefs
      @seasonedbeefs 4 місяці тому

      Keowns idea of doing business is having a cuppa during the breaks

  • @pedrosp5969
    @pedrosp5969 4 місяці тому +4

    Keown is angry and bitter that Chelsea are on the up while Arsenal are not improving- going from 2nd to 2nd. Nothing objective about anything he's saying. He's worried that the normal balance of power in the london clubs is soon to be restored.

  • @zakbar11
    @zakbar11 4 місяці тому +6

    We were always going to have a tumultuous couple of seasons with new ownership and a completely new squad. Martin Keown should worry about how Arteta has only won one FA Cup in his multi year tenure. Arsenal might be doing well but you don't get a trophy for coming in second. Also, Keown saying Palmer carried Chelsea is only part true let's not forget even Nico Jackson has 14 league goals on his debut more than 70 million Havertz. Arsenal have spent 700 million and have one trophy. Same as Ten Hag.

  • @P.T18
    @P.T18 4 місяці тому +9

    I can never understand poch. No idea what he said / meant there

  • @TradeIQ_Profits
    @TradeIQ_Profits 4 місяці тому +15

    Clown, Arteta took 5 years to win 2nd, they operated in 8th for 2 years while Poch took Chelsea from 12th to 6th in 1 year

  • @planetebeautecali4485
    @planetebeautecali4485 4 місяці тому +3

    Chelsea are experiencing something similar to Ac Milan when their Millionaire Owner had to sell the Club with Scandal around him.

  • @HairSystemDIY
    @HairSystemDIY 4 місяці тому +5

    Did Arsenal experience a massive fall from grace when they came 8th twice, Martin?

    • @si4632
      @si4632 4 місяці тому +2

      Twice 🤣

  • @paulsutch907
    @paulsutch907 4 місяці тому +4

    you cant compare anything the team has done this year with anything under potter or tuchel its a completley new set of players and totally different scenario.

  • @choppaa4204
    @choppaa4204 4 місяці тому +13

    Chelsea went up 6 places from
    Last season. More improvement than any other team in the prem. Let Poch cook.

    • @JanVandenBergh-e3j
      @JanVandenBergh-e3j 4 місяці тому

      Well done - that’s a great achievement

    • @arnoldsaunders6073
      @arnoldsaunders6073 4 місяці тому +1

      And we are scoring goals.

    • @doubleeph8920
      @doubleeph8920 4 місяці тому

      ​@@JanVandenBergh-e3jA 19 point swing and 30 plus goals swing to boot!😊

  • @cherubinramsey795
    @cherubinramsey795 4 місяці тому +3

    "this will carry on during the break" ... we still want to hear 😂

  • @BoneStarr2k
    @BoneStarr2k 4 місяці тому +7

    So much chest from Arsenal fans, they still haven't won anything since that FA cup, Martin needs to hush hush

  • @LeFERN-t8b
    @LeFERN-t8b 4 місяці тому +1

    Chelsea have the youngest team in the EPL and 2nd youngest team in Europe combined! I also love the fact that the club’s wage bill has significantly reduced to being 4th on that list after Arsenal. If they make it to Europa, it would be a great step in the right direction from 12th to 6th, a final against Liverpool and 3rd place finish in the FA Cup all while battling with the highest number of injuries in the league and a constant barrage of gossip and toxic energy from the fanbase. Well done POCH, get a clinical finisher and an solid CB to challenge for top 4 next season and win any of the cup trophies. Progress!

  • @SuperMrdp
    @SuperMrdp 4 місяці тому +2

    Martin Keown doesn't even make an arguement he grabs whatever he reads in the headlines and just spits them out without any context for that whole time.

  • @harrisonstock6674
    @harrisonstock6674 4 місяці тому +2

    That Pepe comment😂😂😂

  • @grndouwn7338
    @grndouwn7338 4 місяці тому +2

    Keown is such a drip

  • @lfcspectre4335
    @lfcspectre4335 4 місяці тому +20

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    • @GamerFrisco
      @GamerFrisco 4 місяці тому +1

      Sir Spectre & Sir Simon = top LADS Proper Clobbers 💯 Facts 👌

  • @terrypietru8012
    @terrypietru8012 4 місяці тому +4

    Keown, The Chelsea and Arsenal deal for mudryk were 'identical', don't take my word for it, look up shaktar direct general Serhii Palkin's comments on the deal. Do your homework.

    • @si2k
      @si2k 4 місяці тому

      yes true, they accepted the chelsea offer as the payments were better

    • @terrypietru8012
      @terrypietru8012 4 місяці тому

      @@si2k that's not what Palkin said, he stated ( not quoting verbatim) the initial transfer fee was very identical ( agred by all) the add ons were very similar but shaktar were more confident that chelsea's model was more likely to deliver the 'add ons' in the long term ( eight year contract).

    • @si2k
      @si2k 4 місяці тому +1

      @@terrypietru8012 So they should be

  • @chisomagannaji
    @chisomagannaji 4 місяці тому +4

    I don’t know if it’s stupidity or ignorance that makes arsenal fans think they are doing better than Chelsea. You’ve won nothing at the best seasons in 21yrs. Talk about getting used to shame smh

    • @yemi9196
      @yemi9196 4 місяці тому

      By your logic, chelsea is not doing better than nothingham forest. Also, by your logic, chelsea and Nottingham forest have same odds of winning the premier league next season. If you agree, then case closed.

  • @nicholasbolas
    @nicholasbolas 4 місяці тому +3

    Keown taking out on everyone and every club after his club bottled the league...

  • @claudemakelele2856
    @claudemakelele2856 4 місяці тому +4

    Lol..Keown had to mention we got thumped by Arsenal. But the truth is in our worst even season, we still did better than his beloved Bottlersernal

    • @steveallen-q7m
      @steveallen-q7m 4 місяці тому

      He was talking about Chelsea great end to season which started after that game, what do think he should’ve said in your tinted glasses “Chelsea out of nowhere suddenly became good it had nothing to do with being embarrassed by a rival things just magically clicked for last 8 games of season” 🤦‍♂️

    • @claudemakelele2856
      @claudemakelele2856 4 місяці тому

      @@steveallen-q7m Arsenal bottled back to back title. That's all I need to know. Chelsea will improve and win the title before Arsenal. Wait and see.

    • @steveallen-q7m
      @steveallen-q7m 4 місяці тому

      @@claudemakelele2856 it’s funny how people say arsenal bottled it last year and this one when they lost title to a team that’s only been beaten to title once in last 7 years, if arsenal would’ve gone up a gear last 2 seasons do you seriously think that city wouldn’t either? This is a city that has beaten a team to title that got 92 and 97 points in a season

  • @kevingates8339
    @kevingates8339 4 місяці тому +4

    Martin is so deluded

  • @Budumpum
    @Budumpum 4 місяці тому +4

    It’s funny how Chelsea is broken and Pochettino needs time to fix it, but Manchester United need to sack Ten Hag because it’s a disgrace. Pundits are jokers

    • @thegamehelperz2746
      @thegamehelperz2746 4 місяці тому +2

      How many years was ETH in united again? He's going downward not forward so I can understand fans frustration😂😂. And if u take the situation since Ukrainian war started, Chelsea is the most broken club in Europe top 5 leagues big teams

  • @davevincent5453
    @davevincent5453 4 місяці тому +4

    Just open opinions and nonsense to think Poch will be leaving

  • @AbhishekSharma-mm9tv
    @AbhishekSharma-mm9tv 4 місяці тому +1

    Arsenal have been in 19 out of 22 seasons in champions league.
    And they got smacked in about 17 of them...and have never been in the running to win it.....

    • @doubleeph8920
      @doubleeph8920 4 місяці тому

      Only one final appearance to show for it too 😂

  • @frankbutello
    @frankbutello 4 місяці тому +1

    I think Martin is hurt and totally agree with Simon if Poch will be there next season Chelsea will be top 3 as Liverpool without Klopp maybe be not same

  • @LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989
    @LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989 4 місяці тому +1

    Oh Martin lay off, arsenal haven’t won the PL in over 20 years.
    Chelsea don’t need your ‘concern’.

  • @ftv555
    @ftv555 4 місяці тому +2

    You did it with boy Pepe 😅😂

  • @recruitmentch
    @recruitmentch 4 місяці тому +2

    Chelsea are supposed to have had a bad season. Only finished 5 points of a champ league spot.

  • @bryguy572
    @bryguy572 4 місяці тому +1

    All footballing loyalties aside, objectively speaking, Keown who rarely gets it right, I think had valid points. Chelsea were a top team and the owners unnecessarily dismantled it. I think this is just undeniable. Simon couldn't deny it. They disassembled it because of their vision of having a young crop of players on long contracts to maximize the capital of their assets, slow the acceleration of the asset depreciation and ostensibly to win a league.
    The billion spent easily could have, should have, been used better, no question, with far better results than what's been seen.
    The process Simon is talking about to trust, was a self imposed process. They were already a top club.
    Hopefully the recruitment gets it right and the positive results Chelsea has experienced recently continue into next season. It's a big job for their Directors this summer as they're losing 3 significant pieces largely responsible for their recent uptick in results, that being Gallagher, Chalobah and Thiago Silva.

    • @clintonabdallah4807
      @clintonabdallah4807 4 місяці тому +1

      What Bohely and Co did was necessary.....No chelsea fan misses any player they sold....a rebuild was necessafy for longevity...if it means sacrificing 1 season then next season after get back to playing european football then i would say Bohely and co are geniuses....they just had the guts to dismantle the slowly dying foundation en re build a new one for longevity.............for example mount is now uniteds problem...imagine if chelsea hang onto him 😂😂😂😂.....

  • @chrisbartram6644
    @chrisbartram6644 4 місяці тому

    "This'll carry on during the break" 😂

  • @MikeKing-gb9uu
    @MikeKing-gb9uu Місяць тому

    Really when chelsea had 14 players injured you will be like spurs waiting 60 years

  • @nicholasroy2960
    @nicholasroy2960 4 місяці тому

    Listening to Keown I kind of understand why they want to ban headers....

  • @paulkearney4565
    @paulkearney4565 4 місяці тому

    Our aspirations to win the league with a group of 21 year olds was never in the clubs plans for this year, this is a 3 year plan which is a sensible approach given the long term policy!
    Simon is 💯 correct, watch this space Arsenal 💙

  • @doubleeph8920
    @doubleeph8920 4 місяці тому

    Keown speaking with understanding context. Chelsea have had the most injuries in the league and had their first choice centreback pairing (Chalobah and Thiago Silva on the bench. Gusto was injured so Gilchrist an inexperienced centre back by trade played on the right. It was a patchwork defence and a team missing its best player that day. Theres no way a close to full strength Chelsea team would've lost scandalously.

  • @GuesswhereIsMe
    @GuesswhereIsMe 4 місяці тому

    That was great Martin you really showed your footballing intelligence on that one

  • @philthatcher6111
    @philthatcher6111 4 місяці тому

    Since boxing day 2023 Chelsea would have finished 3rd in terms of points, that's how good 2024 has been for the club. Defiently an improvement on last season, players will be more experienced and settled next season. Honestly I can see Chelsea pushing top 4 if they get a decent striker.

  • @petershortland478
    @petershortland478 4 місяці тому

    If Arsenal were in the same situation, Keown would be praising them. If you want fall from grace look at United

  • @jayzerino
    @jayzerino 4 місяці тому

    What is the point of the conference league

  • @argyrosmichail1008
    @argyrosmichail1008 4 місяці тому

    Well done Martin well said

  • @recruitmentch
    @recruitmentch 4 місяці тому +1

    What would you prefer? A couple of poor seasons post winning the champions league and thumping Arsenal 4-1 in a european final OR 'qualified for the champions league trophy' for 20 years?😂

  • @mattj9330
    @mattj9330 4 місяці тому

    3 points behind Spurs, 5 behind Villa, shocking start to the season, huge injury list, yes they should have done better, but in terms of what people were saying in December where Chelsea would finish? They would have taken 6th

  • @certified-dre
    @certified-dre 4 місяці тому

    Chelsea’s worst season in decades & they won the same amount of trophies as Arsenal 😐

  • @StardenBardenHardenBart
    @StardenBardenHardenBart 4 місяці тому

    Man utd has fallen so low 🔅 one of the most well known club in the world. Fans are living in the past success. The player and the manager they have is completely rubbish.

  • @sahajshetty1844
    @sahajshetty1844 4 місяці тому

    He is not a chequebook manager because he spends more than anyone else, that would just make him stupid, he is a chequebook manager because he gets his ideal choices all the time , which is impossible in an organic environment, he has never worked with a side which never knew how to win a title akin to Jose at Chelsea.
    No one is questioning Guardiola's process as a manager, his trophy cabinet is testament to that, however he has never faced a scenario where he has to settle for a second choice in my opinion, City is basically a lab experiment of how an ideal club would operate, zero financial risk, and a perfect operational and executive teams.

  • @rags008
    @rags008 4 місяці тому

    Does Martin know the club's owner was sanctioned by the UK Government, club striped from him and the entire club tossed on its head? He is acting like we won the Champions League and just fell of form for no reason.

    • @grndouwn7338
      @grndouwn7338 4 місяці тому

      Exactly, they like to ignore this.

  • @LukasMatejka-du5hb
    @LukasMatejka-du5hb 4 місяці тому

    yeah, but Arsenal in last 20 years didn't have the budget to send 1 billion down the drain in 2 transfer windows :D:D

  • @carlito12384
    @carlito12384 4 місяці тому +1

    Chelsea will be back next season and arsenal will have more chances 😂😂😂

  • @thorstenmoll6637
    @thorstenmoll6637 4 місяці тому

    Hypocritical ex Arsenal player.
    The Chelsea project is far greater than what Arsenal did with a complete reboot of the whole club, changing and chopping everything built by Roman to give a more structured future to the club. Nobody in his right mind would expect Chelsea to be challenging for the title at this point with 80% of the players being new to the club and partly the league, not forgetting to mention that injuries played a big part this season as well......14 players at one stage. Take Saliba, Saka, Rice, White, Havertz or Odegard out their team most of the season and see where they would have finished.

  • @Jayjaybills5030
    @Jayjaybills5030 4 місяці тому +3

    That Martin Keon guy do not sound particularly healthy most times mentally! How he contradicted himself so quickly here, behaved like he was against Simon & agreed with him almost immediately in a yet combative manner amazes me!

  • @caamafia
    @caamafia 4 місяці тому

    Won champions league 2 years ago, made Europa again. Have the youngest roster in Europe. Signed the most promising upcoming talent. And “fall from grace” 😂

  • @just_callis
    @just_callis 4 місяці тому

    Simon humbled Martin.

  • @legendaltair2733
    @legendaltair2733 4 місяці тому

    Simons logic:: chelsea is great football team because chelsea owner is damn rich.. 😂😂😂😂😂.. Hypocrisy at its best

  • @GolleyBoi
    @GolleyBoi 4 місяці тому

    Why does Martin do this to himself every week!!! He’s such a clown 😂😂😂

  • @roykeane1922
    @roykeane1922 4 місяці тому

    Man city have done a good job of allowing us all to forget who the first imposter club was

    • @spat3305
      @spat3305 4 місяці тому

      Ikr Man Utd were that team, sad to see people forgot them.

    • @Blaze26909
      @Blaze26909 4 місяці тому

      @@spat3305 0 ball knowledge 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣deffo a room temp iq plastic 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Simko3426
    @Simko3426 4 місяці тому

    IF CHELSEA does not play CL minimum,it is like an ASTON MARTIN without an engine.

  • @solo2873
    @solo2873 4 місяці тому

    This is why arsenal fans are so unbearable, they’re the only fan base that act like they’ve won the treble while winning absolutely nada.

  • @LJDaKid91
    @LJDaKid91 4 місяці тому

    Don't worry Martin our times coming

  • @ryancurrie2068
    @ryancurrie2068 4 місяці тому

    Keown was over rated as a player.. and no one rates him as a pundit

  • @kylelopes510
    @kylelopes510 4 місяці тому

    Martin Keown is too intelligent to talk to Simon Jordan. Every time he speaks Simon tries to insult him because he can't have an intelectual conversation with him

  • @si4632
    @si4632 4 місяці тому

    Tucel also narrowly lost two cup finals didnt he lol

  • @jah5076
    @jah5076 4 місяці тому

    Arsenal are spurs in red, Chelsea have had there worst two seasons in 20 years, arsenal have had their best in 20 years Yet they’ve won the same amount in that time

  • @Ghmedpage2023
    @Ghmedpage2023 4 місяці тому

    Whats the argument here.. chelsea were UEFA Champions League Winners 2021 and World Champions 2022. Being invited to the inaugural FIFA Confederations Clubs World Cup. ELITE TEAMS ONLY. Where is arsenal ? What have you got tp show... the fact that you spent 600 mil doesnt mean you are better. Chelsea have Major Trophies in same 4 years to show for what spent

  • @caesarliamana6983
    @caesarliamana6983 4 місяці тому

    Chelsea will win another trophy before Arsenal & will bring the premier league trophy back to London before Arsenal.

  • @notreal1477
    @notreal1477 4 місяці тому

    Give keown an award for yapping. Never heard someone talk some much and say so little.

  • @andyhello23
    @andyhello23 4 місяці тому +1

    Nothing wrong with people having strong opinions
    lol
    Do not watch football anymore, but one would assume thiago silver is going to be hard for chelsea to replace. Class player
    Chelsea will never move into the bracket of a top team, roman had them for years, won everything, and they still could not get to a point where they get that place among the best teams.
    Chelsea today are in no better position then before i stopped watching epl, and i stopped in 2002.
    How did chelsea do with that time at the top, in terms of roman making them a top team, they never achieved it, despite winning everything with roman as an owner.
    Personally i think chelsea have not moved into the top teams league, and are still at the level before moruinho
    Some teams come and go, they have a brief time at top, and cannot estabilish themselves as a top team, so when that period of winning ends, they go back to what they were before.
    When you see liverpool, could be rubbish, and they would still keep there world wide fans.
    Roman brought success to chelsea, but did not make them into a tier 1 team, proving how hard that is, as chelsea won everything in those years.
    Arsenal really shot themselves in the foot leaving highbury. There new stadium is not highbury

    • @zamani8494
      @zamani8494 4 місяці тому

      Honestly sir, get your biscuits, beans and seat down because you're waffling. Mid teams don't win CL twice and are still in contention for more, bar the last 18 months.

    • @doubleeph8920
      @doubleeph8920 4 місяці тому

      You certainly left all your football sense in 2002 with your ridiculously written comment!

  • @kcjones89
    @kcjones89 4 місяці тому

    United failed to qualify for the Champions league but luckily dont get into the europa or conference. We can actually concentrate on the league next season. If win the FA cup and get into the Europa league that wil be the most Spursy thing ever.

  • @jameswiglesworth5004
    @jameswiglesworth5004 4 місяці тому

    Like how Keown say's of Chelsea, "five win's from last six games" actually it was five win's from last 5 games, the loss to Arsenal was not relevant to the
    sequence, but pratt that he is he had to mention it, loser mentality, typical of Arsenal.

  • @New-ye2fl
    @New-ye2fl 4 місяці тому

    Mon city , we got a good chance of winning champions cups 😂

  • @danwaters4139
    @danwaters4139 4 місяці тому

    Martin is just a salty Arsenal fan

  • @andymore62
    @andymore62 4 місяці тому

    Chelsea won a few games against clubs like West Ham, Nottingham Forest, and Bournemouth, and all of the sudden people are acting as if all their problems are solved and they are on the fast track to title contention lol. Did we not see Arsenal bop them off the park just a month ago?

    • @doubleeph8920
      @doubleeph8920 4 місяці тому

      Chelsea have the 4th most points since Christmas with only the top 3 getting more! The Arsenal had 3 of the 4 regular back four out and throw in Palmer who was unavailable too. If you can't understand context and facts it says a lot about your intelligence.

    • @andymore62
      @andymore62 4 місяці тому +1

      @@doubleeph8920 They definitely improved over the course of the season, but they still had diabolical results in 2024 (Burnley, Sheffield United, Arsenal demolition), and with Chelsea’s aims and how bad the rest of the league has been outside of the top 3, finishing 4th best isn’t all that amazing. I still think they’re way off it given what they’ve spent.

    • @MikeKing-gb9uu
      @MikeKing-gb9uu 4 місяці тому

      Yes chelsea had14 players out you muppet😢

  • @robbie14157
    @robbie14157 4 місяці тому

    Poor old Keown out of his depth and desperate to talk, even though he doesn't quite know what to say.

  • @evertton64
    @evertton64 4 місяці тому

    Talk sport just give jobs to some of these ex players with no common sense.

  • @paulmclaughlin8038
    @paulmclaughlin8038 4 місяці тому

    Do they ever agree?

  • @jeffkeogh1982
    @jeffkeogh1982 4 місяці тому

    Why Keown has employment anywhere other than Arsenal Fan TV is beyond me. Cracking player but painful to listen to.

  • @chelseacharger
    @chelseacharger 4 місяці тому

    Keown is just someone who can't put aside his club bias to think logically. Either that or he's just following the Talksport line of being contrary to stimulate callers to the station. This is a fun fact. The Chelsea line-up that won the 20/21 Champions League cost £57m less than the regular first choice Arsenal team that season. Remember where Arsenal were not that long ago. Finishing 8th despite spending big on Pepe, Lacazette, Partey,, Aubameyang and others. When you bring in a load of teenagers and under 22's, then you are obviously looking to success in the years ahead, not necessarily the here and now. Chelsea's team is the youngest in the PL. Talented but prone to naivety and poor decision making which can only be improved through experience. They finished just five points off a Champions League place. If they maintain the improvement they have shown, they will be challenging for the top honours before long.

  • @paullawrence3517
    @paullawrence3517 4 місяці тому

    We will finish above Arsenal next season 👌🏾👊🏾💪🏾👍🏾 you'll see 😀

  • @dirkbogarde44
    @dirkbogarde44 4 місяці тому

    Jordan knows nothing about football............a completely new team full of kids that don't know each other and they finish 6th? That's doing well, considering the start they had.

  • @SSH1905
    @SSH1905 4 місяці тому

    Keown typically chippy for obvious reasons. Always needs to bring Arsenal into everything he says and does. Their best season in 20yrs and they win nothing. His bitterness is boring.