Simon Jordan & Jim White ARGUE Over If Fans Are TOO Critical Of Chelsea Owner Todd Boehly 🔥
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
- talkSPORT's Simon Jordan and Jim White debate Todd Boehly at Chelsea and if people are too critical of him.
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At this point Simon should run a Charity Foundation "Owners lives matter" he'd be a great front runner.
He’s given a balanced argument, pity you can’t see that
@@Ifox95 That's your opinion, congratulations.
@@user-zm9xf7mo4p no need to be disingenuous, that’s wtat he’s doing , how on earth can’t you see that is incomprehensible 🤦♂️
Well most people have not run a football club and it’s good to listen to other perspectives that don’t necessarily align with yours. It’s good for conversation especially with everyone wanting to sit on the doom and gloom side
@@Ifox95 lol "balanced" = Always defending owners regardless of what they do while directly criticising managers & players when they get things wrong.
Spent a billion replacing a Champions League winning squad with a load of kids. Preached long term project and patience while going through 5 managers in 2 years. Had to sell Cobham and the hotels "to themselves", and will continue to sell our best homegrown players to make up for their spending spree, while continuing to sign Brazilian 16 year olds. Now they sack a manager who had gotten the process on track. They want to buy and sell whoever they want with a timid Championship manager who goes along with whatever they want and has no input outside of team selection. These owners are digging their own graves.
Facts
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Clownlake
@@dustyrhodes1655 fancy seeing you on this comment general. Not surprised one bit 💯💪🙌🔵
@@manriquebrian Let's Ave It Right!
When Boehly took over Chelsea were the 3rd best team in England, he has spent over a billion and made them worse.
Simon is acting like chelsea were battling relegation every season before Boehly not winning Champions leagues...
The fact that Todd Boehly keeps being talked about shows how poor he is doing. Good owners are in the background quietly going about their business.
Exactly, how often do you hear about FSG, Villa’s owners or even Tony Bloom, other than in a positive way? Meanwhile, Boehly, the Glazers/Ratcliffe and Moshiri are in the headlines all the time running their club into the ground.
Agreed. It's a mess.
I keep hearing the name Tony Bloom as the best owner in football and yet Brighton have never won a single thing in 121 years and didn’t have their own ground for 10 years 😂
@@user-er4eg4ng6n Aye.
But.
Look where they've came fae ......🤔 🤔 ❓
They're no a club expected to win the big prizes.
But now they've had a shot in Europe.
Been great steps 🚶♂️ Sold many great players for profit.
@@user-er4eg4ng6nDamn Tony Bloom is that old?
Yes he’s learning but that doesn’t excuse critical mistakes
Who ever turns up at Chelsea will be gone by Christmas. Because the yanks haven’t got a clue
Lazy argument. You have to be in the knowledge of things inside the chelsea decision camp to understand what they want and are trying to do.
Like an african expert such as yourself? @@africanchild2541
@@africanchild2541 that’s the point they don’t know what they are doing they never run a English club before clueless
I think you’re 100000% right, I really didn’t enjoy the start of this season as it went on I found my voice again as a chelsea fan remembering we are (were) a respectable club, that’s all gone now, completely lost interest in supporting the club now, gonna take HUGE HUGE steps for these owners to repair the rift they’ve created at Chelsea
@africanchild2541 We Cannot see Todd Boelhy doing? Its no surprise... The man at one has point his director of football and chief scout being literally James Corden and his Twitter feed I doubt he knows what he is doing either.
Not even watched it yet but I just know Mr know it all will defend the owner to the hill
Co-owner
And its not like Chelsea fans are an entitled self-important group who think they are a big club is it.
To the hilt you absolute melt
@@JonDavis4678 you spelt arsenal wrong princess
He knows a whole……
How Simon keeps putting up with working with Jim is beyond me
Simons propper up todds back side it's blatant
Tbf, he's been bashing Todd for 18 months telling him that he's hanging himself with the spending, and they keep coming up with new ways to get around it. He's been proven wrong a handful of times, so is going in less hard.
Until he stops rubbing it in that he knows Todd and know why Tuchel is gone then I don't think he should be commenting on Chelsea's management situation.
He's actively got inside knowledge and if he's not going to say anything then what's he there for? Either talk or stay quiet and let everyone else speculate.
Is that like proper for illiterates 😂
@@edmanning274he’s not bashed him for his spend at all, he’s said don’t worry on someone else’s behalf about how much money they spend he’s ambiguous
@@stevenmoore120 true, that and he’s the first one to always say “if you have information and aren’t willing to name names and spill it then shut up and don’t say anything” .. yet with him he constantly says he knows why Tuchel was sacked but won’t say it. So really he should have taken his own advice and not said he had that information if he isn’t willing to go any further.
I just love Simon Jordan! He speaks a lot of sense and does not care about sounding controversial even if some times he is wrong. But overall, he is good!
He’s a total dope
Simon is that you?
He's ALWAYS wrong
Simon is on the right side of history
Simon's spot on and all you 'these yanks haven't got a clue' lot are hilarious!
What loyalty, teams and fans will want you out as soon as results are not satisfactory
Exactly, fans only.want loyality one way
We see straight through you Simon
Managers stock falls as quickly as it rises. If Ipswich finished bottom next year then he wouldn’t get anywhere near the Chelsea job. He has no choice but to take it up while he is higher sort after.
Boehly owns 12% of the club. The real schmucks are Clearlake.
If there is someone you want as a friend when you bad at something, Simon is your guy. He will go through a whole maze to defend you
simon’s right it’s only 2 managers. you’d forget this is “ruthless” chelsea
Mckenna will be Potter 2.0 goodluck
I think the comment by the Leeds fan was excellent. Good luck on Sunday.
Loyalty died 20 years ago.
talkSPORT, I love your channel so much, I just had to subscribe!
The Ipswich fan is spitting facts
Simon's head up his and Todd's you know what...
People should be allowed to go to better opportunities
talkSPORT, This is fantastic! I subscribed because I love it!
Talkshit !!!
The problem Mr Jordan with the "here are your players, coach them" is that if you want success then why not copy the best team in the UK, Man City. If you are trying to suggest that pep gets given players and doesnt have any say in who he gets then i would suggest you are wrong. Emulate the best.
Pep gets a say but he has 100% had players bought for him and not been able to get who he wanted. Pep was blatant when he said he wanted Kane but the club wouldn’t pay the fee in 2021.
This whole process is just the Americanization of the club. They are moving to a coach/GM structure. It seems that they are looking to have a philosophy that carries over year after year, no matter the manager. Gone will be the days of new managers coming in and playing a new system requiring new players to fit that manager. They will hire a coach to play the system the club has built. No clue if it will work but you can see what they are trying to do.
If McKenna stays at Ipswich, which I sincerely hope he does, he will be a legend there.
Is it possible to bring G Potter back? I think he would do great with this trimmed squad.
He honestly didn't get a fare chance,he had a big squad and TT's players who stopped playing for the club after their "daddy" got sacked
Roman would have sent Poch packing long ago . However Roman would hire only world class managers not student managers. We need Roman back to save Chelsea
Roman had a core group of players who were experienced winners and could hold a certain level regardless of who the manager was so his changing of managers didn't have the negative impact it would in other clubs, as soon as they all left or retired that model fell apart
talkSPORT, I really enjoyed watching this, so I hit the like button!
Hopefully he can get man utd into the premier league
Bring back Roman !
I hope Pochettino gets the Man Utd job. He did well at Spurs. I think Chelsea should have gave him more time.
One thing though I cant see him being able to prise away cole palmer to Man Utd if he does go to Old Trafford 😅
Jim White doesn't understand that clubs are PRIVATE BUSINESSES !!!!!
So when are you both going to push for moyers at Chelsea?
*co-owner
He is a 5% merchant. Egbitchly is who calls the shots. Him and Meatloaf Boehly have actually fallen out.
I'll be happy for McKenna to go to Utd., but I'll be disappointed if he went to Brighton
Yes, loyalty is pretty much dead. But I think if you get promoted with a team who gave you a big chance (potentially your first job) you owe them at least one season in the new league. Kieran McKenna was nobody, and Ipswich took a punt on him. He should at least give them a season. He’ll get a full season in the PL thanks to the credit built up, and even if they get relegated, he’ll have the experience then.
Otra vez, sí sí sí
Mi guapo 😘 👨🏼🏫👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻el señor Simón Jordan
Jim White is absolutely annoying to listen to!!!
Pep, Xabi, Arteta, Nagelsman etc were all managers given a big job after no experience and they thrived. Why these Chelsea owners are getting slammed by their decision to let Poch go is ridiculous. Same exit he had in previous jobs when he changed his mind on the structure he signed up for. Oh I see Bayern just did the same thing with Tuchel and now Kompany.
Ridiculous? Lol
Todd clueless boehly
1bn spent 2 years 4 managers Fired Already Madness
You are the clueless one mate. Boehly is not calling the shots, Eghbali is.
Why do we treat Football differently than any other business no one is is using a Nokia or Blackberry phone anymore if you can’t keep up you get left behind so remove all financial restrictions and let’s see who uses the money best
Some Chelsea fans will never stop complaining until Chelsea win trophies: something Pochettino should have done this season.
RA came into the Premier League and made 16 signings within 12 months; the fans cheered and pundits were too stunned to criticise it... Most of those signings were younger with potential: Duff, Joe Cole, Geremi, Robben, Cech, Glen Johnson, Bridge etc. RA recognised he needed the best manager (manager not coach) and signed Jose Mourinho, who recommended Drogba and, a year later, Essien.
Clearlake came into a more competitive Premier League league, with a City team more dominant than any team before them... Clearlake were stung by letting the manager sign players: Tuchel signed Sterling, Koulibaly and Fofana on big salaries, before Boehly hired directors who changed the policy and signed multiple young players.
Since 2010, RA's Chelsea were already signing young players that managers refused to play: they lost KDB, Lukaku, Salah, Ake and others... Clearlake are refusing to give managers the 100% control of transfers; something RA also refused to do for multiple managers.
Poch tuchel did coach them he still fired them
Why are you not slating West ham fans?starting on Chelsea fans now..
For the millionth time CLEARLAKE IS MAJORITY OWNER. How hard can it be. Starting to believe these guys just can’t pronounce Eghbali.
People really need to understand that Todd stepped back from day to day running in January 2023!! Out of all the ownership group Behdad Eghbali is the one most involved and seemingly the one with the biggest ego!
He did make mistakes at the beginning but people need to learn the actual facts
Roman would have sacked him by Christmas.
@KeepingIt-vi9xv Roman wouldn't have hired him... Pochettino is AVB without the cool hair/beard combination.
Ipswich won’t stay in the prem, with or without Mackenna
Chelsea fans wanted rid of him 5mins ago
the leeds fan is literally insane
Jim shite hates Chelsea.
chelsea under boehly had only one manager-TUCHEL
potter-lampard and pochettino were not managers of CHELSEA-they were an insult for management at CHELSEA
All clubs have entitled fans like they own the club because they are a fan . It is very funny. Jim is the advocating for the woke.
SIR ALEX said after two seasons of CHELSEA championship under MISTER CHELSEA MOURINHO:
WE HUNTED THEM LIKE HOUNDS BUT WE HAD NO CHANCE!"
THIS IS CHELSEA!!!
I agree with Simon
Simon defends owners and refs no matter what however managers and players are the worst in his eyes
The whole group are average average administrators trying to run an elite sporting instutuon
Simon Jordan, is the type of commentator, that if the same exact sentence is said by the manager or the club owner, he's still able to say that what the manager is saying, is a load of twaddle, but if told by the owner of the club it becomes reasonable and must have some logic behind it. Just love how he twists himself into a pretzel with his amazing inconsistency on his analysis.
Manchester United !
You know as well as I do that you're using a fallacy. Having experience at doing something DOES NOT declassify other people's opinions who dont have that same experience. Come on Simon, you like to think you're a prober debater so act like one.
Simply brilliant!!😂😂😂😂
MOT ALAW
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I’m Still Standing!
Do the Crocodile Rock, yeaaaahhhh!
These guys are currently the worst owners in the premier league for Christ sake. You can't exactly blame fans for having a go can you
The problem with Tod Simon is that he’s an ignorant billionaire who thought he could put himself at the helm
1 transfer window he did that because he didn't have time to hire who he wanted. And even then all he did was go after players Tuchel wanted. The media just keep pushing the narrative Todd is running the show himself which he isn't
The ego behind the concept that two pundits somehow knows better than tens of millions of fans are absolutely incredible.
Wow. Talksport is getting shittier and shittier by the day. And I'm a Manchester United supporters. They did Ten Hag dirty too. Crappy people in the studio, think they are so much better than everyone else.
They wanted poch out now they want him to stay Jesus guys
Elite Jordanite = Top LAD Proper Clobber ✊
Oh look at you, big brain, you've actually wrote a different comment you POS
More important are customers critical of tesco 😮 Watch or dont watch its not that difficult.
Nobody cares what grown men are doing with their lives
move on let it go. stop snooping and gossiping
fish wives 😮
The Yanks are clueless just look at the glazers they still call it ' soccer ' Todd is just as bad get them out of english football.
Stop with this Boehly garbage. He is a 5% merchant. Egbitchly calls the shots at Chelsea and Meatloaf is just thr cushion between the fans/media and Egbitchly. Mr. Sophisticated Joe90 knows this as well.
Get a life.
The Ipswich manager is unproven in such an high profile job we need to stick with ETH we need to stop changing managers and look at the bigger picture stop trying the quick fix way . How bad was Fergi in his early years FA Cup win away from being sacked . I am am not a 90s fan I started the suffering 1976 but I still love the club
Majority agree
Simon's defense of why he's defending Boehly like he's his lawyer is ostensibly because he's sat in a "board room" and nobody else knows what they're talking about. We've heard all of his flexible defenses and reasonings for months now and it is Olympic mental gymnastics.
So Boehly and Eghbali appointing themselves as Sporting Directors isn't a legit criticism, or having 2 co sporting directors, or messing up paperwork for transfers (Ziyech) messing up Release clauses with clear protocols on how to trigger (Olise) or being threatened by PSG for shady transfer tactics (Sporting Lisbon purchase tied to Ugarte) or using an AI scouting Model for everything they do, an U25 year old project in a men's league, loans that blow up constantly, dismantling a clubs standards and reputation, sacking each and everyone down to groundsmen, sons and tea lady, sacking an entire medical department, constant interference in the coaching jobs, constantly involved on the training grounds, dictating and micromanaging the squad, selling players their own coach wants to keep, a bench depth of 18 year olds, buying broken players, spending billions, long term contracts that have forced the club into selling assets such as hotels and training grounds to balance books along with all academy graduates despite how key they've been for the coach.
A fan who notices these things "doesn't know squat" though as they've never sat in a board room like Simon has therefore Simon is not defending the Boehly, who by the way, is a 13% owner and not really in control of the club the way Clearlake, Eghbali and Feliciano are.
Simon is absolutely compromised because I don't think he's stupid.
By the way, a few weeks ago Simon was arguing with Souness or Murphy and said he "refused to believe that Pochettino didn't have a say in player recruitment" as he used that "belief" or refusal to believe as the fundamental point in another argument he was having defending the insanity of Chelsea's owners.
Now it's "what's wrong with having a coach "coach'?. How ironic, as this is what Tuchel wanted to do and was sacked ostensibly because he didn't want to be part of recruitment.
Simon is all over the place with his mental gymnastics and is really working his brain to come up with these elaborate and fantastic defenses of a clear and obvious case of arrogance and incompetence in the new regime at Chelsea.
Simon Jordan’s defence of Boely is actually sickening
I think Todd might be on to something
Simon can't possibly be arrogant enough to assume he's the only person to have been in a boardroom...
Funny how Simon's chums Boehly and Levy destroy managers for fun!
Simon thinks an owner who is a businessman and knows nothing about football, should be allowed to spend a billion, on players he's probably never seen play, then bring in a manager and expect them to mould a bunch of individuals into a team ? 🙄
Todd clueless boehly
You are the clueless one lol. Eghbali is calling the shots not Boehly. You muppet
Simon’s another one that doesn’t watch football from different tiers and leagues. He doesn’t sound like he understands the game either.
Simons owner friends can do no wrong, but all managers and players are overpaid and lazy
Simon is jst a wind up really
Simon is a failed club owner so of course he'll support Boehly and Co in all their failing decisions
Jim is fantastic with his quick wit
Jim going 'is this nuance' as Simon provides exactly that tells you all you need to know about the arrogance in the football world
4x champion Man City which is historical and all people talk about is a manager who lost his job. Talking about lack of appreciation where greatness is concerned
Who actually cares about crapsea
simon’s right it’s only 2 managers. you’d forget this is “ruthless” chelsea