@@reversedon8698 Me also. Haven't upgraded since Feb of 2011. Now, do I wait a bit longer, upgrade to DDR5, and all that comes with it, or upgrade to the best of this the DDR4 Gen?
Like I did with DDR4 and DDR3 before it....I'll wait a year or so before making the jump to the new spec. It always coincides with a fun upgrade anyways, so good to know it'll be all solid by then.
I really love Linus' analogy on the port systems. DDR4: M4 Benelli (M1014 for US Marines), Saiga 12, USAS-12, SPAS-12, SPAS-15 and AA12 DDR5: DP-12 and Neostead 2000
DDR5 having a standardised dedicated interface for peripheral controllers (e.g. for RGB) is going to be such a lifesaver for security. The existing implementations often just expose the SPD SMBus (I2C) to unprivileged users, which opens up all sorts of holes and makes a total mess of the platform security model.
I don't think an exposed SPD-only SMBus is a huge deal for security as the only thing you'd be able to do is reprogram modules (if they're not write-protected), potentially bricking the system. I would be much more concerned if _other_ devices are also exposed.
@@eDoc2020 exploits like rowhammer do exist. Having access to it could allow making sidechannel attacks more likely to succeed, or even just possible where they weren't before.
@@ANDSENS Perhaps that is a risk, and I definitely think unprivileged access to a hardware bus is bad. However I still wonder why manufacturers don't just write-protect the EEPROM as an additional precaution. Actually I just looked up the 24C02 datasheet and only the top half gets write protected, so that's one reason. Still, they could use a different chip if they wanted to.
@@eDoc2020 The issue is that the SMBus for the SPD is often shared with other devices, particularly on laptops. Also, many drivers expose *all* SMBus interfaces, not just the one used for SPD, and often other interfaces too (Asus asmmap driver is a good example)
@ They won’t fix it because it doesn’t effect their bottom line. Even if the LTT decides to block these bots all of its previous comments won’t be delete because UA-cam don’t have that option to do that. The best thing to do is to not interact with them and then report them.
@@frontbattles8090 Please tell me what amazing scientific discoveries you've made that have allowed you to understand and consequently determine the presence of consciousness in organisms/objects? We don't even know what consciousness is my dude. You can't just rule it out by sheer appeal to familiarity, that's a fallacy.
That first time I saw DDR as a kid was memorable. It was fast and like nothing I've seen before. But I was always the bottleneck. Never could press those arrows fast enough. Bangin' music though.
I was until 11th Gen. I5 760, DDR3 CL13, and it's still running like a beast! Except every it can do, my 11th does but with less power and 2 extra cores...
"DDR5 desktop platforms are right around the corner..." So like, in about three years when we can actually get our hands on it for a respectable price? lol
Even at a reasonable price for a new module of DDR5 and buying a new motherboard for DDR5, I don't think it's worth it. It's new. There are kinks that need to be worked out and will be. They'll see some modules give off too much heat and redesign them. In another year or so after release itll be better probably
You will be lucky to get them for respectable prices within 3 years, I say min 5 years later you will be able to buy second hands onces at respectable prices.
@@Gizmo_- Reporting them does nothing in the long term. UA-cam is the only one capable of doing something to get rid of these scumbags, but we all know UA-cam couldn't care less about issues that doesn't affect their revenue.
Dance Dance Revolution 5 looks different than I imagined, good for them to completely remove the gameplay and convert it to a stick of RAM instead, simply phenomenal.
Linus, as someone who designs soft IP, so is familiar with the technical side of this, your descriptions of this stuff are incredible. Very good work LTT.
You guys did an absolutely amazing job on this. The animations and the way you explained some very complex concepts was incredible. Keep up the great work!
And then there's me, still running Ivy Bridge with DDR3, kind of proud to have managed to overclock the modules from 1600 to 1867... I wonder what PCs will be like by the time I buy a new one, because this 2014 rig is going to hold out until it completely craps out...
Battlefield 2042 has other plans for your pc 😂 I only got a stuttering 30ish fps low minimum settings during the beta with a first gen Ryzen 5 and a 980Ti.
I'm only a year younger with my PC, running a Haswell Intel i5 4460, 8GB of Hyper X Fury DDR3 and a GTX 950 running three monitors, still holding fairly strong. Gonna ride till it dies!
@@jonathonhebert7042 Shit I'm glad I built my gaming pc back in 2019. For $2000 I got a 2080 Ti, I9-9900k, 32 gb of 3200 mhz trident Z ram, a ROG Maximus Hero IV motherboard,and 2 terabytes of storage via m.2 nvme ssd., Just waiting on a new GPU when prices come down.
DRAM is a capacitor matrix and the recover you mentioned is the memory refresh. Capacitors loose charge with time and tiny ones have very little charge so a refresh circuit must read and rewrite the memory content all the time - and that becomes critical if a part of the matrix has been used for a time (reading) and a refresh mush be done right after that.
I was too until last year. Had DDR4 come out 3 years after I got that PC. Now DDR5 comes out less than a year after I got my current PC lol At least you'll have a nice upgrade waiting for you whenever you decide to upgrade lol
I just wanted to say, you're welcome to everyone who was champing at the bit for DDR5 to come out. I finally got around to building a new computer so, historically, that's exactly the moment everything I upgraded to becomes obsolete. It's a shame because I finally got around to upgrading from DDR3.
Nahh you're good. Most of the time, the only ones that really benefit from those upgrades are power users doing specific things. And DDR5 will be very expensive at release.
There is no need at all to upgrade to DDR5 at this moment. For many reasons. Price, stability, Overclocking limitations of fresh hardware. The difference you can get out of it will probably be unnoticable. Pay attention to the downside, worse latency, that's a huge deal, many DDR4 sticks of a lower price will outperform many of the initial DDR5 sticks.
DD5 won't be at it's peak for another 2-3 years yet. I wouldn't worry about it too much. Even so, it won't make/break your system. Congrats on the new build!
I'm unsure on what I should do, I got some DDR3 at 16GB of RAM, should I go ahead and upgrade to the to-be cheaper DDR4, or the more futureproof DDR5? I mostly use my PC for work related to modelling & texturing, also videogames, none of that video editing or programming.
I’m personally gonna wait a while before i upgrade, the PC component scene right now is super overpriced so I’ll wait till everything goes down and ddr5 gets better
I've been teaching for 4 years, and this channels fantastic verbal explanation along with incredible graphics to supplement it is really inspirational. Cannot believe I get to enjoy this content.
I am so envious of that card, it's also hard to believe that no manufacturer tried attaching full size fans from the best fan guys to a card before. It's been a very rare enthusiast mod for so long, long enough for manufacturers to have heard of it long before now. Maybe it's only happening now because ridiculously thick cards are becoming commonplace.
DDR5 is going to be really expensive at first. If your building a budget PC you might as well just build on a current platform rather than waiting for the next platform. It's going to be a few years until DDR5 is as cheap as DDR4
@@mikeramos91 It doesn't matter if DDR4 is slower or faster than DDR5. It depends entirely on how fast the next generation of CPUs are, since backwards compatibility doesn't exist.
The most exotic ram I could see is two insanely overclocked ram sticks with rgb that instead of being individual pieces was a single physical unit that could be entered into alternating slots as per usual and to top it off is cooled by a 140rad and fan for the luls I hope someone makes this monstrosity
@@counterstructure4908 I don't know anything about APUs, I just work on DRAM. I also can't say anything specific about it and intend to keep my job, sorry. I don't remember what's proprietary and what isn't well enough to tempt fate like that
Cool stuff working on DDR5, Nate! I’m working on the Adobe cloud as a software engineer and feel like complete idiot comparing it to domains like memory stuff! “Intend to keep my job” :D sounds reasonable. Keep up the impressive stuff :)
When I first started building systems there wasn't even simms. I had to insert each individual memory chip into a socket on the motherboard, 36 of them just to get 4mb. A quarter of the motherboard was just memory sockets. Ah the good old days.
@@jeschinstad So you must also remember the Turbo Button on the case. The forerunner to overclocking. Press it and go from 8mhz to a whole 10mhz cpu speed. LOL
DDR5's central chip buffer is just like the old DDR2FB dimms from back in the day. Kinda funny how its new people discovering old tech and putting new life into what it can do!
I just upgraded from 2000 serious i7 and ddr3 ram, just before the ddr5 come, and i felt little stoopid watching this, otherwise feel so super to upgrade bro its like i used time machine or something to whole new world 😂
@@amystery5238 that's the exact problem I have, I know it's not worth getting anything new, since things already run well on that I have plus I don't play games, but instead use it for office and multitasking. It's just that the pressure comes from all the content on social medias kinda feels like you're left out, when you see everyone's beautiful custom built computers, with all the newest components and stuff.
I don’t worry about those pesky bots. I just report them and let UA-cam do the job! LTT and famous channels have been targets of scams for a long time already and UA-cam doesn’t do anything about it.
ACTUALLY, the rig in front of him had Core i9 12900K (shown by Anthony on ShortCircuit) which is still under embargo, I think. So I mean, they had the hardware, they just can't show you.
@@white-bunny THe embargo got 'partially' lifted, theyre alowed to show you the hardware but not allowed to show it in a powered up state yet, or talk about speed findings (cant wait till they can tho, really want to know how the 12900K performs)
I'm not sure how useful it is though, at least the dual 32-bit lanes. If you only need 32-bits. Well, a lot of data is pointers and structures, so 64-bits or more. And that extra data didn't really cost that much more time. For your CPU to just throw it away is probably already included in the fetch cycle. (I'd need to double check but worst case is a bitwise and... so 1 clock cycle of one ALU.)
@@nathankennedy3290 I am pretty sure there are fewer than 9 Canadians wishing to be US citizens. Also Canadians enjoy more freedom and liberty than US citizens
I just finished my first PC build and it's so much better than my old one. Thank you Linus for all the incredible tech tips that guided me through my build
Unless you're some hardcore production techie or a triple A game gamer who wants 144fps with your rtx 3090 in 4k, there's 0 reason to buy ddr5... Might as well just get 64gb ddr4 for 1/4 of the price.
@@lottexy well no, if you're a triple A game gamer who wants 144fps with your rtx3090 in 4k theres actually reasons specifically NOT to get ddr5, since for the next couple of years high-end ddr4 is still gonna be better than the ddr5 we will have.
I watched the whole video Linus. You did a very good job on this one. Weird question, what does a fan need to do for a free pc? Mine won’t shut down and has been left running for a month now and I miss sleeping in a quiet room. I’ll be insane in another month.
"DRR4 is 7 years old, feeling old yet?" Meanwhile, I _just_ bought 2x8GB _DDR3_ to expand my work/gaming PC with a motherboard from 2011, that I also use for VR game development...
A year (at least) from now, we're going to see an increase in actual performance from ddr4 to ddr5. As long as there is no 6400mhz it is not worth it. Not to mention cost and availability. If for the work you do you don't care about the ECC, ddr4 is going to be fine for at least 2 years.
@@tim3172 why such provocation? I've worked designing electronics for 10 years, I think I know what I'm talking about. Even in quantity the memory is substantially more expensive which is what dominates the cost. My comment make no reference to the mark up factor, just the ratio of value in the BoM.
Indeed, but the r&d will push the cost more than raw material price. And honestly it's a new excuse to rake the price. The bigger question, that from now we must look for the PMIC type too not just the speed and latency, as if manufacturers will care to even mention this parameter in the web shops. Sounds fun... :D
@@mtx33 the NRE (non recurring engineering) costs are a small part of the cost for this product. As it's very high volume, all the cost is in the components and assembly / testing.
@@tim3172 From what I've read for simple things like this the retail price is probably increased by twice the BOM increase. So $2 extra for module. I'm sure the profit margins will be much higher than that on RGB stuff.
Can't wait for the benchmarks! I mean, there's no point in having new and better technology if our games and work-related software can't make proper use of it, right?
@@sirsneakybeaky I'm more interested in how it's going to affect programs like Clip Studio Paint. I have a 4 cores/8 threads Ryzen 5 2400G and 16BG of DDR4 RAM running at 3000MHz, yet the program still lags when dealing with more complicated brushes in larger sizes. Since CSP is more CPU bound than GPU bound (contrary to Photoshop), maybe the change in architecture alone could prove a substantial increase in performance. For me, DDR5 isn't looking great because of the increase in capacity, but rather its doubling of MHz. If the stuff I use for work makes good use of that increase, then my job gets far less frustrating.
I just looked it up. The first Dance Dance Revolution was released in Japan in September of 1998 while Samsung released their first DDR1 memory chips in June 1998. So actually the memory came first. In terms of when you could actually get it, the video game came to the West in March 1999 while DDR1 motherboards came in August 2000.
Been rocking a 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM on my 4000 series i5 and GTX 970 for 7 years (2014), and just upgraded it to 16GB DDR4 2666MHz 10400F i5 and RTX 2060 this week (2021) -- guess I'll wait for DDR6 to upgrade to DDR5 for consistency sake LOL
@Ebisu There isn't nothing, I know he has mods on his channel, you can ban users form your channel, there's only so many bots. There are many things he can do. If anything he can make a call to action for his viewers to report them. There's a huge finance/politics channel called MeetKevin and he didn't rid of it entirely but he must have done something right because the problem's under control, he used to be infested.
@@mranderson2048 yeah they target specific types of content, LTT it's probably the most well known tech channel on this platform. You would think a mutli-bllion dollar company with some of the most powerful AI would be able to solve this problem we've had since Obama was president.
@Ebisu To get rid of bots: 1) UA-cam let us shadow ban them, add in a black list 2) channels do not allow links in the comment sections. I prefer the 1st option, so they don't know you can't see their stupid spam anymore with that specific bot.
See what you think about this question. LED light actually flicker. The plate charges and chemical element emits light and the process repeats. So I’ve always wondered if the pulsing LED’s create a RF frequency which could actually cause some interference in the PC’s operation. I would think that all the circuits runs on the board would act like antennas and possibly this could slow the transfer of data in a really good gaming rig. Like build a PC with identical specs all LED’s and the same with no LED’s and see if it makes a difference.
"Hey Linus, what kind of analogy could we use so it's really clear for the viewers?" "Well, most of our audience are Americans so use guns and bullets, they'll get it!"
@@rosen9425 I don't think that would happen because, think about it when they do it they'll probably have a current GPU, and even then chrome itself doesn't take up a lot of GPU.
10:17 Not all RGB could be like useles trinkets. They could add double colored RGB's onto it to tell how fast it's running and also how hot it is, like nearing thermal thresholds, from one side of the stick to the other, and then when it starts to become hot, it would appear that all lights are on continuously, sinetad of blinking on and off from one side to the next..
As you mentioned the big downside of having the PMIC on the DIM is you are generating waste head that has to go somewhere. Will be interesting to see in a few years when we manufacturers start releasing modules with crazy voltages what kind of thermal solutions will be required.
Expect some crazy beefy heatsinks, as well as liquid cooled memory to make a comeback. Running those chips at ~4ghz+ (8000MT/s which should come out sometime next year and will be when I upgrade) will generate a LOT of heat. Not to mention the ~1W of extra heat coming off of the power delivery. I think heavy overclocked modules will max out at about ~8-10W per 16GB which is about 50-80% more than ddr4. Maybe the efficiency gains are so extreme that power consumption will be about the same, but I doubt it. The "base" spec will be of course more efficient (~2W vs the 3W of ddr4 per 8gb stick) but us enthusiasts don't run stock memory now do we?
Of all my system components, the benefits of RAM speed has always been the most intangible. Sure, in a benchmark, I can see the transfers operate at different speeds, but how does that difference FEEL in Premiere or playing a game or using a 3D program?
See, I was curious about a similar thing too some time ago. I was wondering how much of a difference does dual channel do. So naturally being too lazy to do these benchmarks myself I researched it and in some games you can get like 40% fps more just from dual channel over single channel. BF1 was the game where there was sth around 50% of difference, absolutely insane actually. The speeds though... they matter but not as much. If you're making an overkill PC then why not have 5500 MHz? But when you're trying to keep it real then there is a small albeit noticeable difference between, say, 2666 and 3000. 3600-4000 is where the differences get so tiny it's not worth the extra cash really but the price difference between 2666MHz and 3600MHz is not large so it's a no brainer to shoot for 3000-3600 if your processor can handle it. You don't really change RAM often so just spend a tiny bit more and get a better deal.
@@tropicalfruit4571 The difference between 2666 and 3000 is not a little bit. I just built a new system with quad channel ram and games don't feel any different whatsoever, and my apps are faster because of the CPUs. I feel if I need a benchmark to quantify the improvement, it wasn't worth it in the first place.
those metaphors were impressively mixed. Should of had a link to Ian Mccullum's minigun teardown so people could figure out what you were talking about lol
It is quite insane how much Linus is able to understand when it comes to really technical concepts. I would LOVE to see a behind the scenes video that covers how the research that goes into each video, happens. That is, if there isn't already a video that explains this.
I'm from the future. Thought you should know that DDR6 is even faster.
WHATTT???
Propaganda
DDR6 is old hat. QDR4 is where it’s at
But ddr7 is even faster
Nothing beats Rambus.
DDR5 has been "right around the corner" for about 5 corners now.
Just a few more I swear
Daaad! Are we there yet?
Lives up to its name.
Drop Denied; retry 5
He has been around
Well that just means we're back where we started huh
"2014 this stuff came out"
Thanks for making me feel old Linus
im still using ddr3 on my desktop
"It's been 84 years."
@@reversedon8698 Me also. Haven't upgraded since Feb of 2011. Now, do I wait a bit longer, upgrade to DDR5, and all that comes with it, or upgrade to the best of this the DDR4 Gen?
SDram baby 133MHz (Pentium 166 MMX)
@@reversedon8698 ddr2 here.
I think I'll wait until DDR10 just to buy a stick of ddr4
I'll be dead
Well it'll be more expensive again at that point because it'll be so rare
@@fredit123456789 Probably not, you could probably buy some second hand PC for $100 just to get the ram
Ikr right, I'm still using ddr3
@@fredit123456789 ?? ram isn't even expensive right now, you can get 16gb ram for the same price as a 1tb ssd, or half the price of an m.2 ssd..
Like I did with DDR4 and DDR3 before it....I'll wait a year or so before making the jump to the new spec. It always coincides with a fun upgrade anyways, so good to know it'll be all solid by then.
They said it will take approximately 2-4 years for ddr5 to be at equivalent price as ddr4 is now.
how about waiting with your dd4 system until ddr5 is about to be superseded by ddr6 just like i did with my ddr3 system recently
i mean you have to get a whole new mobo and cpu anyway so…
with the shortage going on I'd say one year to get it on the market and a second years before prices even move.
I still have ddr3, my old xeon is still handling most games just fine.
Props to the LTT animator, this episode is stunning!!! :O
I agree, but the ever changing backgrounds was very annoying and it made it hard to focus on the animations/pictures
@@kevinhoog Yeah
did you notice that GPU was the ASUS x NOCTUA one ?
its probably a 3070
HATED the flashing backgrounds, had to close my eyes, instant headache!
Thanks Linus, as an American I cannot understand anything without the use of gun metaphors!
Lmao
I really love Linus' analogy on the port systems.
DDR4: M4 Benelli (M1014 for US Marines), Saiga 12, USAS-12, SPAS-12, SPAS-15 and AA12
DDR5: DP-12 and Neostead 2000
DDR5 having a standardised dedicated interface for peripheral controllers (e.g. for RGB) is going to be such a lifesaver for security. The existing implementations often just expose the SPD SMBus (I2C) to unprivileged users, which opens up all sorts of holes and makes a total mess of the platform security model.
I don't think an exposed SPD-only SMBus is a huge deal for security as the only thing you'd be able to do is reprogram modules (if they're not write-protected), potentially bricking the system. I would be much more concerned if _other_ devices are also exposed.
@@eDoc2020 exploits like rowhammer do exist. Having access to it could allow making sidechannel attacks more likely to succeed, or even just possible where they weren't before.
@@ANDSENS Perhaps that is a risk, and I definitely think unprivileged access to a hardware bus is bad. However I still wonder why manufacturers don't just write-protect the EEPROM as an additional precaution.
Actually I just looked up the 24C02 datasheet and only the top half gets write protected, so that's one reason. Still, they could use a different chip if they wanted to.
@@eDoc2020 The issue is that the SMBus for the SPD is often shared with other devices, particularly on laptops. Also, many drivers expose *all* SMBus interfaces, not just the one used for SPD, and often other interfaces too (Asus asmmap driver is a good example)
@@ANDSENS rowhammer is not made easier by this type of access. there's no side channel mechanism that requires SMBus access.
"128 GB per module"
Oh boy. Can wait for the next generation of games to have minimum RAM requirements of 512 GB!
No no no pls no
🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶
Chrome will get upgraded to "take advantage" of these new RAM maximums.
It is the holy grail of modding. More Minecraft! :D
@@LetsEinfallslos002 running a fully modded Minecraft server with a hundred clients connected on the computer you're also *playing* on the server from
Will it lower storage sizes at least?
Linus: "This part is a little complicated"
Me: "Which part?"
Linus: "Yes"
😂broo. I'm so confused
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I see what you did there
Sounds like a sex ed class.
#Linus§exTips
Linus: "That's DDR4. I know Right? 2014 this stuff came out"
Me: still rocking DDR3
me too
DDR3 gang
Same on my 2015 MacBook
Only recently upgraded to a matched set for my 4th generation i7.
Up until a year and a half ago i was still on DDR2
So cool. Now PH will load videos in .2 seconds instead of .4 seconds.
Nice
I can tell you are left-wing by your pre occupation with sexual themes.
Can't Wait to watch those Minecraft lets play's
Funny seeing you on a Linus video, I've watched your car flipping series since the first episode.
dont you mean the videos will....come faster
@@drakebell6784 true, right-wingers just suppress it all their lives until they rape someone then run for supreme court or president
Seeing a flashback of Linus's past self without the beard feels so nostalgic
I know right?
The beard was the best gain from the pandemic
Ah yes. The before times.
in proud father tears: He has grown so much
Linus: How do i explain this upgrade to an American majority audience?
*Thinks about it*
Linus: SHOTGUNS!
Analogy go BRRRRRRRR
🤣
Honestly it wa sa good explination
@@ThunderBlastvideo it really is
State of Texas will be proud.
Can’t wait to download this new RAM onto my computer!
My god..the bots..they're everywhere
Lmfao why r there soo many bots
They've realized YT is allowing them to do so... and surely they still fish some ppl, otherwise would have stopped.
@ They won’t fix it because it doesn’t effect their bottom line. Even if the LTT decides to block these bots all of its previous comments won’t be delete because UA-cam don’t have that option to do that. The best thing to do is to not interact with them and then report them.
Wait, but this RAM capacity is bigger than my computer storage itself.🤣
I'll never get over that we tricked rocks into thinking
Shits crazy
I personally want to thank you for this comment
*distant existential alien laughter*
sorry but thinking is defined as a conscious process which is the first aspect that cuts any technical objects out.
@@frontbattles8090 You must be fun at parties
@@frontbattles8090 Please tell me what amazing scientific discoveries you've made that have allowed you to understand and consequently determine the presence of consciousness in organisms/objects? We don't even know what consciousness is my dude. You can't just rule it out by sheer appeal to familiarity, that's a fallacy.
now 7 years later, we have ddr6 and linus will remember this day
Your DP is my reaction
So I wanna be in dA history
Yes they will
I havent watched the video yet but i already know he said he remembers when ddr4 arrived
Ja
That first time I saw DDR as a kid was memorable. It was fast and like nothing I've seen before. But I was always the bottleneck. Never could press those arrows fast enough. Bangin' music though.
Omg, same!
slow clap
You're describing touhou?
ua-cam.com/video/oka6iqfCwvw/v-deo.html 😅
Damn you..!
These analogies are actually really helpful
Also damn. And I’m still rocking ddr3
me too, and its enough
@@villtex6759 yeah but could be better
@@ns___________7405 what the actual fuck
Ddr2 gang
I was until 11th Gen. I5 760, DDR3 CL13, and it's still running like a beast! Except every it can do, my 11th does but with less power and 2 extra cores...
"DDR5 desktop platforms are right around the corner..."
So like, in about three years when we can actually get our hands on it for a respectable price? lol
Let's not forget that it takes the same amount of time for there to be any reasonable use case for needing them as well.
Just as soon as DDR7 comes out it’ll be cheap for a week…maybe two.
Even at a reasonable price for a new module of DDR5 and buying a new motherboard for DDR5, I don't think it's worth it. It's new. There are kinks that need to be worked out and will be. They'll see some modules give off too much heat and redesign them. In another year or so after release itll be better probably
You will be lucky to get them for respectable prices within 3 years, I say min 5 years later you will be able to buy second hands onces at respectable prices.
U wish-
"Ram fans are not coming back"
*sweats as Aliexpress looms in the background*
I like how all of the replies are spam bots XD
poor bastard only has bots in his responses... aside from me and hopefully, future responses.
Something
jeez the bots are annoying I report them all
@@Gizmo_- Reporting them does nothing in the long term. UA-cam is the only one capable of doing something to get rid of these scumbags, but we all know UA-cam couldn't care less about issues that doesn't affect their revenue.
This kind of high-quality, informative content is why I'm subscribed. Digestible but with a good amount of depth, I can't thumbs up enough!
No one cares
@@400080vikkash apparently quite a bit of people do
Exactly I was thinking
@@mohawkmaniac6658 only ones than care are the fake accounts 😂
@@melyrose5151 can you cook for me?
Dance Dance Revolution 5 looks different than I imagined, good for them to completely remove the gameplay and convert it to a stick of RAM instead, simply phenomenal.
the coolest guy in town is the man who's at the arcade dance dance revolutionizing the entire area
This was the most American explanation of data transfer I've ever seen and I love it lol
Pretty sure Linus is Canadian, and I'm not sure how knowledgeable he is about guns
Canadian you mean.
he is canadian.
Definitely
@@kanaka118446 Canadians are American
Took me a while to understand why the intro ended with Dance Dance Revolution 😅
Can't wait until ddra20 ram comes out
Reading this comment and seeing written out I just understood now
ITS REVOLUTION
But for me DDR always reminded me of the arcade game. That intro was a happy surprise.
Ohhhh DDR - Dance Dance Revolution. I’m slow !!
Linus, as someone who designs soft IP, so is familiar with the technical side of this, your descriptions of this stuff are incredible. Very good work LTT.
I ❤ LTT & AMD 😻
soft IP?
@@mastershooter64 it's like a virtual computer chip that someone could use to build a real one with
You guys did an absolutely amazing job on this. The animations and the way you explained some very complex concepts was incredible. Keep up the great work!
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Think all decent PC's will need a full system liquid cooling loop within 10 years.........maybe?
We are drilling into the ppwer nodules to add liquid metal for a 0.0001 performance increase and 2 fried motherboards
And then there's me, still running Ivy Bridge with DDR3, kind of proud to have managed to overclock the modules from 1600 to 1867...
I wonder what PCs will be like by the time I buy a new one, because this 2014 rig is going to hold out until it completely craps out...
Battlefield 2042 has other plans for your pc 😂 I only got a stuttering 30ish fps low minimum settings during the beta with a first gen Ryzen 5 and a 980Ti.
I'm only a year younger with my PC, running a Haswell Intel i5 4460, 8GB of Hyper X Fury DDR3 and a GTX 950 running three monitors, still holding fairly strong. Gonna ride till it dies!
@@jonathonhebert7042 Shit I'm glad I built my gaming pc back in 2019. For $2000 I got a 2080 Ti, I9-9900k, 32 gb of 3200 mhz trident Z ram, a ROG Maximus Hero IV motherboard,and 2 terabytes of storage via m.2 nvme ssd., Just waiting on a new GPU when prices come down.
And here is me with i5 750 (3,8 GHz), 8GB DDR3 memory and GTX 1060.
Get a very good DDR4 based PC when early adopters are gonna sell their fancy still good PCs for shiny new ones supporting DDR5.
DRAM is a capacitor matrix and the recover you mentioned is the memory refresh. Capacitors loose charge with time and tiny ones have very little charge so a refresh circuit must read and rewrite the memory content all the time - and that becomes critical if a part of the matrix has been used for a time (reading) and a refresh mush be done right after that.
Bruh I’m still on DDR3
I was too until last year. Had DDR4 come out 3 years after I got that PC. Now DDR5 comes out less than a year after I got my current PC lol
At least you'll have a nice upgrade waiting for you whenever you decide to upgrade lol
Bruh same ill wait for ddr6
Same here haha
Same, I built my PC in 2014 and I've just added more space and a GPU upgrade 2 years ago
Same 😂😂
it will be interesting to see real world builds and how they perform with Alder Lake / AMD Zen 4 Chips
I just wanted to say, you're welcome to everyone who was champing at the bit for DDR5 to come out. I finally got around to building a new computer so, historically, that's exactly the moment everything I upgraded to becomes obsolete. It's a shame because I finally got around to upgrading from DDR3.
Nahh you're good. Most of the time, the only ones that really benefit from those upgrades are power users doing specific things. And DDR5 will be very expensive at release.
There is no need at all to upgrade to DDR5 at this moment. For many reasons. Price, stability, Overclocking limitations of fresh hardware. The difference you can get out of it will probably be unnoticable. Pay attention to the downside, worse latency, that's a huge deal, many DDR4 sticks of a lower price will outperform many of the initial DDR5 sticks.
Well. I built my current computer in December 2014. Got DDR3 at that time. DDR4 had just released. My DDR3 is still rocking good though.
There is no noticeable difference between ddr3 and ddr4 in professional or entertainment environment. Even ddr2 is good enough.
DD5 won't be at it's peak for another 2-3 years yet. I wouldn't worry about it too much. Even so, it won't make/break your system. Congrats on the new build!
I'm unsure on what I should do, I got some DDR3 at 16GB of RAM, should I go ahead and upgrade to the to-be cheaper DDR4, or the more futureproof DDR5?
I mostly use my PC for work related to modelling & texturing, also videogames, none of that video editing or programming.
If you have the money go ahead and do ddr5, if you have a budget ddr4 is the way to go
You'd need a new motherboard that accepts ddr5 as well
@@MyNameIsNoNameNo and cpu 😂
I’m personally gonna wait a while before i upgrade, the PC component scene right now is super overpriced so I’ll wait till everything goes down and ddr5 gets better
What your CPU? It all matters with what its supported by. By the way, you can't get any CPU that supports DDR3,4 and 5 at the same time.
I've been teaching for 4 years, and this channels fantastic verbal explanation along with incredible graphics to supplement it is really inspirational. Cannot believe I get to enjoy this content.
it truly is amazing
Can we just take a minute to appreciate the Noctua gpu in the test bench
@@melyrose5151 bruh
@@melyrose5151 ew
Jay already did it
It's all I cared about in this video lol. Still waiting on release so I can snag one 😭
I am so envious of that card, it's also hard to believe that no manufacturer tried attaching full size fans from the best fan guys to a card before. It's been a very rare enthusiast mod for so long, long enough for manufacturers to have heard of it long before now. Maybe it's only happening now because ridiculously thick cards are becoming commonplace.
I love how he has all of the things we’re hiped for on that test bench; the noctua x asus rtx 3070, a z690 motherboard, and an alderlake cpu.
i thought i was the only one to see it
I'm not waiting for ANY 3070. I have a 3080.
@@asmongoldsmouth9839 nobody cares big guy
"... accept that the fashion industry's job is to remind people of what they don't have." ~ Robin Givhan, fashion journalist
It's "hyped"
Linus: I got DDR5
Everyone else: I got DDR3
ddr 4 for me:
DDR5 is going to be really expensive at first. If your building a budget PC you might as well just build on a current platform rather than waiting for the next platform. It's going to be a few years until DDR5 is as cheap as DDR4
i've heard it won't reach price-parity with DDR4 until around 2023 or so.
@@user-pj6oc5gy2q Well that's not very long at all, hopefully that's true.
yea that's why im waiting for 2nd gen. Plus high end ddr4 will be on par if not faster than entry ddr5
Wait, DDR4 is cheap?
@@mikeramos91 It doesn't matter if DDR4 is slower or faster than DDR5. It depends entirely on how fast the next generation of CPUs are, since backwards compatibility doesn't exist.
Shoutout to everyone here from the SIMM RAM days 😬
*says hi in 486 with 8MB of 72-pin SIMM RAM*
wait, you watch LTT? I guess the diy/tinkerers spirit carries over different genres, huh :D
30-pin SIMMs checking in
😃
EDO baby!
128GB RAM sticks becoming standard? Python and JS programmers high fiving each other right now.
Looking forward to MS Teams using up 70GB of RAM.
The usage probably won't be bigger than the application itself or the project total size
1TB ram incoming
4tb per chrome tab
python ain't that hungry tho, fck node it freezes my laptop when running react dev server with vscode & UA-cam In parallel.
Put all your Node modules on your ram disk
The most exotic ram I could see is two insanely overclocked ram sticks with rgb that instead of being individual pieces was a single physical unit that could be entered into alternating slots as per usual and to top it off is cooled by a 140rad and fan for the luls
I hope someone makes this monstrosity
Linus says "Megatransfers per second" Dr. Ian will be proud!
thats literally why he says it
As an engineer that's been working on DDR5 at Micron, I like the shotgun analogy lol
Will it have particular impact with APU's?
Is that now the general term for the hybrids or still just AMD? What does Intel call theirs?
@@counterstructure4908 I don't know anything about APUs, I just work on DRAM. I also can't say anything specific about it and intend to keep my job, sorry. I don't remember what's proprietary and what isn't well enough to tempt fate like that
@@nateh8427
That's understandable.
@@DominicRyanOsborne :')
Cool stuff working on DDR5, Nate! I’m working on the Adobe cloud as a software engineer and feel like complete idiot comparing it to domains like memory stuff!
“Intend to keep my job” :D sounds reasonable. Keep up the impressive stuff :)
Is that the Noctua 3070 on the test bench I see?
no
Hopefully they'll review it some day, given Linus' admiration of Noctua.
yes
Is that a verified youtuber trying to scalp views with a pointless comment that I see?
@@twizz420 yes
I wont build another pc for the next 10 years so it's interesting to see technology getting better. It makes me excited for my next build (:
Why 10 years and not 5
When I first started building systems there wasn't even simms. I had to insert each individual memory chip into a socket on the motherboard, 36 of them just to get 4mb. A quarter of the motherboard was just memory sockets. Ah the good old days.
Yes, i remember those rails of ICs:)
Which year you come from, time traveler?
@@jeschinstad So you must also remember the Turbo Button on the case. The forerunner to overclocking. Press it and go from 8mhz to a whole 10mhz cpu speed. LOL
@@kenogster3059 IBM's "Turbo Button" actually reduced clock speeds.
@@General_Griffin I never said it actually worked LOL. I never noticed any difference.
Can't wait to upgrade to this in 2030 when the GPUs finally have real prices again.
3 grand not real enough?
@@RickMyBalls no
the fact that i can (and did) spend 500$ on a mid/low end gpu is fucking robbery.
Won't happen
2030 is pretty optimistic
Awwwww, so after 15+ years since being abandoned, the +5v line will finally be making a comeback!
"It's my time to shine!"
And just in time for the 12VO standard making it more expensive because now the motherboard will have to act as the voltage translator from 12V to 5V.
@@edge21str and 12vo is supposed to be more efficient. I wonder how efficient it will be to go from 12V to 5V to 1.1V
DDR5's central chip buffer is just like the old DDR2FB dimms from back in the day. Kinda funny how its new people discovering old tech and putting new life into what it can do!
To be honest, even once the DDR6 comes out, I'll probably still be running the DDR3 and i5 4000 series I have atm
SAME!
same but i7 4930k and ddr3 in quad channel mode: still a beats
I just upgraded from 2000 serious i7 and ddr3 ram, just before the ddr5 come, and i felt little stoopid watching this, otherwise feel so super to upgrade bro its like i used time machine or something to whole new world 😂
@@amystery5238 that's the exact problem I have, I know it's not worth getting anything new, since things already run well on that I have plus I don't play games, but instead use it for office and multitasking. It's just that the pressure comes from all the content on social medias kinda feels like you're left out, when you see everyone's beautiful custom built computers, with all the newest components and stuff.
DDR2 to DDR3 performance jump was so big compared to DDR3 vs DDR4
ill move to DDR4 when DDR5 becomes pretty common
Really nice to see the progression of LTT's motion graphics quality improve over time. Good stuff!
Linus: “How can we appeal to the American audience more?”
5:35
If the gun analogies weren't inaccurate to real firearms, I'd agree lol
Also, yep, I'm American.
@@donovansiers9422 I thought inaccurate analogies were appealing to American audience, too.
Reported for racism
/s
You mean the US money? We don't all like the guns, but we love and/or need the green.
I'm not all that knowledgeable about PC parts, so when I saw the title, I thought DDR5 was Dance Dance Revolution 5....
"Daaaance Daaaance Revolutioooon" - Oh, the references are from WAY back.
That makes me remember. How fast time moves and how fast LMG has grown up!
ua-cam.com/video/2WNLNjzBfHQ/v-deo.html
Holy hell you just got cheese by bots
I don’t worry about those pesky bots. I just report them and let UA-cam do the job!
LTT and famous channels have been targets of scams for a long time already and UA-cam doesn’t do anything about it.
Motherboards will simply include a "special high performance high fidelity DDR5 power supply" circuit that requires an additional 12v2x2 plug.
its will soon result in ram heating and ram damage utter disaster, wait till ddr6 for better cooling 2025
LT crew this is one of your best videos, production, script... A++.
TLDR: he doesn’t have anything to plug it into. This is more of a tech quickie
ACTUALLY, the rig in front of him had Core i9 12900K (shown by Anthony on ShortCircuit) which is still under embargo, I think. So I mean, they had the hardware, they just can't show you.
@@white-bunny THe embargo got 'partially' lifted, theyre alowed to show you the hardware but not allowed to show it in a powered up state yet, or talk about speed findings (cant wait till they can tho, really want to know how the 12900K performs)
Wish I'd seen this comment 11 minutes ago. Thank you for your service.
Sad truth is that we will never see that performance boost that was between SDR and DDR. Man that was huge. Now it is stable evolution.
Gun analogies oddly accurate, very appreciative! Helped me understand a lot better
Accurate implies you already had the knowledge and understanding of how they work. Your comment makes no sense
I'm not sure how useful it is though, at least the dual 32-bit lanes. If you only need 32-bits. Well, a lot of data is pointers and structures, so 64-bits or more. And that extra data didn't really cost that much more time. For your CPU to just throw it away is probably already included in the fetch cycle. (I'd need to double check but worst case is a bitwise and... so 1 clock cycle of one ALU.)
I'm looking forward to this. I've been holding off on upgrading my FX-8370 until DDR5 comes out, because I want built-in ECC.
Nice. I just made the upgrade to 3600mhz DDR4 and think I'll be doing what you did but probably with DDR6 lol
Linus using a gun simile to explain DDR5 shows he really knows his US audience lol
He secretly wishes he is a US citizen lol
Soooo much freedom and liberty thrive!
@@nathankennedy3290 I am pretty sure there are fewer than 9 Canadians wishing to be US citizens. Also Canadians enjoy more freedom and liberty than US citizens
You mean his gaming audience using that analogy.
@@hydrolifetech7911 how
@@mechapope9168 by not facing or being dead in mass shootouts.
Can't wait for the 5 or so years OEMs are going to take to get this mainstream
what even is mainstream? do you mean budget crap?
you'll be able to buy systems based on this in a few months from OEMs
they still want to sell their old DDR4 crap
I'm not even sure they ship ddr4 3200 as standard, that's my ram from 2015
I’m glad they put that Dance Dance Revolution reference. Now they got me wanting to break out a dance pad and start playing the LTT theme song.
Lazlo - Supernova is a great song to dance to, even though I don't own a dance pad. :)
4:12... gotta love when Linus takes us to school... he does it well! again, I wish Linus was my Calculus, ORGO professor!
Exactly what I need for my online chess.
These bots are out of control, fix this crap LTT
@@BasedAstraea v sad
@@BasedAstraea I just reported them all.
@@MrFijiBoySako doing the lord's work 😁
@@BasedAstraea this is youtube's job, not ltt's
Can't wait for DDR6 mix. MAX300 is lit
nice
Linus can't pass Max300.
@@xopher314 that's because max300 is impossible. We all know this
@@zeronxepher maybe if you only have one 64-bit bus.
Last time I passed MAX 300 on arcade hardware was back in 2005. Best score I ever got was a B.
Damn. And I’m still rocking ddr3
Edit:Damn. How did this get so many likes?
DDR3 gang rep
Sad bro
I just got a laptop with ddr4 memory
Me too
i7 3770k, 16gb ddr3, gtx 980ti still going strong :D
I just finished my first PC build and it's so much better than my old one. Thank you Linus for all the incredible tech tips that guided me through my build
8:42 the discord sound noise is that?
Someone pinged Linus in discord XD
I love how the noctua card is just sitting chilling in the background on the test bench
same! >.
Yeah. Such a tease. Haha
So... thicc.. 🤤
They did this at such a great time, now everyone who just built their pc with supply shortages will build another
if you build a new computer every time some new technology or chip or anything else comes out you will never finish you PC....
@@Kyobinoyo and also a big waste of money
Unless you're some hardcore production techie or a triple A game gamer who wants 144fps with your rtx 3090 in 4k, there's 0 reason to buy ddr5... Might as well just get 64gb ddr4 for 1/4 of the price.
@@lottexy well no, if you're a triple A game gamer who wants 144fps with your rtx3090 in 4k theres actually reasons specifically NOT to get ddr5, since for the next couple of years high-end ddr4 is still gonna be better than the ddr5 we will have.
@@kingeddeh9327 Those who built a PC during this time not out of necessity never cared about cost.
I watched the whole video Linus. You did a very good job on this one. Weird question, what does a fan need to do for a free pc? Mine won’t shut down and has been left running for a month now and I miss sleeping in a quiet room. I’ll be insane in another month.
"DRR4 is 7 years old, feeling old yet?"
Meanwhile, I _just_ bought 2x8GB _DDR3_ to expand my work/gaming PC with a motherboard from 2011, that I also use for VR game development...
the bots got you :(
Sandy bridge here
I’m also using DDR3 in 2021 😭 (3x4 GB)
Weird flex but ok
same, bought some ddr3 ram 2 months ago for my main pc
Man, I don't usually get motion sick but graphics on this did it for me.
Please give a raise to your animation/graphics department for this one. This ep's visuals were outstanding in form and function!
The name's Aprime, or Alex Potvin
Thank you for explaining why and how tech stuff works for all of us with no clue. It's great to be clued in on exactly *how* it's an upgrade.
A year (at least) from now, we're going to see an increase in actual performance from ddr4 to ddr5. As long as there is no 6400mhz it is not worth it. Not to mention cost and availability. If for the work you do you don't care about the ECC, ddr4 is going to be fine for at least 2 years.
The production cost of the PMIC (and associated components) would be around 1 USD. The memory ICs are where the cost is.
@@tim3172 why such provocation? I've worked designing electronics for 10 years, I think I know what I'm talking about. Even in quantity the memory is substantially more expensive which is what dominates the cost. My comment make no reference to the mark up factor, just the ratio of value in the BoM.
Indeed, but the r&d will push the cost more than raw material price. And honestly it's a new excuse to rake the price. The bigger question, that from now we must look for the PMIC type too not just the speed and latency, as if manufacturers will care to even mention this parameter in the web shops. Sounds fun... :D
@@mtx33 the NRE (non recurring engineering) costs are a small part of the cost for this product. As it's very high volume, all the cost is in the components and assembly / testing.
@@tim3172 From what I've read for simple things like this the retail price is probably increased by twice the BOM increase. So $2 extra for module. I'm sure the profit margins will be much higher than that on RGB stuff.
Can't wait for the benchmarks!
I mean, there's no point in having new and better technology if our games and work-related software can't make proper use of it, right?
Profile pic is dope :D
@@sirsneakybeaky I'm more interested in how it's going to affect programs like Clip Studio Paint. I have a 4 cores/8 threads Ryzen 5 2400G and 16BG of DDR4 RAM running at 3000MHz, yet the program still lags when dealing with more complicated brushes in larger sizes.
Since CSP is more CPU bound than GPU bound (contrary to Photoshop), maybe the change in architecture alone could prove a substantial increase in performance.
For me, DDR5 isn't looking great because of the increase in capacity, but rather its doubling of MHz. If the stuff I use for work makes good use of that increase, then my job gets far less frustrating.
*_Anyone else remember when DDR was just a dancing game?_*
If you live in Germany, DDR sounds more like a time period than anything else.
Damn felt like yesterday
@@ns___________7405 oh my fucking god just stop
I just looked it up. The first Dance Dance Revolution was released in Japan in September of 1998 while Samsung released their first DDR1 memory chips in June 1998. So actually the memory came first.
In terms of when you could actually get it, the video game came to the West in March 1999 while DDR1 motherboards came in August 2000.
But Linus, what type of frequency does my credit card has to be overclock in order to buy ddr5?
Woah. IDK if it's just me, but the editing seems to have received quite a noticeable leap forward! Epic!
The dance dance revolution intro was perfect as i expected Linus
(dance dance revolution is a rhythm game like stepmania)
I caught that too 👍🕺
@@crazyeyez1502 nice you are a men of culture
@@Yasicreeper well. Maybe. Lol. Never really cared for DDR series. But my kids pjay it enough.
@@crazyeyez1502 oh nice kids you got lmao
@@Yasicreeper on most days... lol
Great pick for the background music! Nice to switch it up once in a while :)
Been rocking a 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM on my 4000 series i5 and GTX 970 for 7 years (2014), and just upgraded it to 16GB DDR4 2666MHz 10400F i5 and RTX 2060 this week (2021) -- guess I'll wait for DDR6 to upgrade to DDR5 for consistency sake LOL
Linus had to represent ram speeds like a gun to appeal to the American audience
It worked.
🇺🇲
As if you don't play any fps games
Can't wait to get this with a new motherboard in a couple of years!
I wish Linus would get rid of these bots, they're flooding literally every comment.
@@BasedAstraea It's a UA-cam-wide issue. Seems more prevalent on popular channels
@Ebisu There isn't nothing, I know he has mods on his channel, you can ban users form your channel, there's only so many bots. There are many things he can do. If anything he can make a call to action for his viewers to report them.
There's a huge finance/politics channel called MeetKevin and he didn't rid of it entirely but he must have done something right because the problem's under control, he used to be infested.
@@mranderson2048 yeah they target specific types of content, LTT it's probably the most well known tech channel on this platform. You would think a mutli-bllion dollar company with some of the most powerful AI would be able to solve this problem we've had since Obama was president.
@Ebisu To get rid of bots: 1) UA-cam let us shadow ban them, add in a black list 2) channels do not allow links in the comment sections.
I prefer the 1st option, so they don't know you can't see their stupid spam anymore with that specific bot.
See what you think about this question. LED light actually flicker. The plate charges and chemical element emits light and the process repeats. So I’ve always wondered if the pulsing LED’s create a RF frequency which could actually cause some interference in the PC’s operation. I would think that all the circuits runs on the board would act like antennas and possibly this could slow the transfer of data in a really good gaming rig. Like build a PC with identical specs all LED’s and the same with no LED’s and see if it makes a difference.
"Hey Linus, what kind of analogy could we use so it's really clear for the viewers?"
"Well, most of our audience are Americans so use guns and bullets, they'll get it!"
exactly
We learned about guns in school.
I actually understood it being a guns and tech enthusiast
LTT in the future: How many chrome tabs can you open on 1 Petabyte of RAM?
gpu: I'm just to set myself on fire right now thanks
@@rosen9425 I don't think that would happen because, think about it when they do it they'll probably have a current GPU, and even then chrome itself doesn't take up a lot of GPU.
Whoever thought that moving backgrounds marred with still images and charts was a good idea... It's not.
Yeah, instant headaches...
totally agree
@Aprime
10:17 Not all RGB could be like useles trinkets. They could add double colored RGB's onto it to tell how fast it's running and also how hot it is, like nearing thermal thresholds, from one side of the stick to the other, and then when it starts to become hot, it would appear that all lights are on continuously, sinetad of blinking on and off from one side to the next..
I love that I feel completely confused watching an LTT video AGAIN, this brings back old memories
Or newer memories. Depending what you have lol
As you mentioned the big downside of having the PMIC on the DIM is you are generating waste head that has to go somewhere.
Will be interesting to see in a few years when we manufacturers start releasing modules with crazy voltages what kind of thermal solutions will be required.
RAM's gonna get toasty.
Expect some crazy beefy heatsinks, as well as liquid cooled memory to make a comeback. Running those chips at ~4ghz+ (8000MT/s which should come out sometime next year and will be when I upgrade) will generate a LOT of heat. Not to mention the ~1W of extra heat coming off of the power delivery. I think heavy overclocked modules will max out at about ~8-10W per 16GB which is about 50-80% more than ddr4. Maybe the efficiency gains are so extreme that power consumption will be about the same, but I doubt it. The "base" spec will be of course more efficient (~2W vs the 3W of ddr4 per 8gb stick) but us enthusiasts don't run stock memory now do we?
You've seen Corsair's water cooled NVMe SSD, now get ready for water cooled RAM, coming soon to a system near you.
I do not think it is going to be to toasr but we going to see a change to more properly designed metal heatsinks with more surface area.
Of all my system components, the benefits of RAM speed has always been the most intangible. Sure, in a benchmark, I can see the transfers operate at different speeds, but how does that difference FEEL in Premiere or playing a game or using a 3D program?
In games it's mostly less stuttering and higher 1%
I think this is big for iGPUs and APUs otherwise not so much
See, I was curious about a similar thing too some time ago. I was wondering how much of a difference does dual channel do. So naturally being too lazy to do these benchmarks myself I researched it and in some games you can get like 40% fps more just from dual channel over single channel. BF1 was the game where there was sth around 50% of difference, absolutely insane actually. The speeds though... they matter but not as much. If you're making an overkill PC then why not have 5500 MHz? But when you're trying to keep it real then there is a small albeit noticeable difference between, say, 2666 and 3000. 3600-4000 is where the differences get so tiny it's not worth the extra cash really but the price difference between 2666MHz and 3600MHz is not large so it's a no brainer to shoot for 3000-3600 if your processor can handle it. You don't really change RAM often so just spend a tiny bit more and get a better deal.
@@avinadadmendez4019 I wouldn't notice 10% in games let alone 1%!
@@Martial-Mat Believe me you would, try to play with Avg of 60gps and 1% of 20fps. It's jarring as fuck
@@tropicalfruit4571 The difference between 2666 and 3000 is not a little bit. I just built a new system with quad channel ram and games don't feel any different whatsoever, and my apps are faster because of the CPUs. I feel if I need a benchmark to quantify the improvement, it wasn't worth it in the first place.
those metaphors were impressively mixed. Should of had a link to Ian Mccullum's minigun teardown so people could figure out what you were talking about lol
0:28 anybody else noticed the Noctua x Asus gpu on the test bench? Can't wait for a review
Jay2cents have done a review, if you can't wait ;)
It is quite insane how much Linus is able to understand when it comes to really technical concepts. I would LOVE to see a behind the scenes video that covers how the research that goes into each video, happens. That is, if there isn't already a video that explains this.
He just reads what Anghony wrote him on the screen out loud