Just bought it off your recommendation! I’ve been looking at it for so long, but at the exact same thoughts beforehand. Excited to try it later today! That said, you should drop your referral link in this video!
Really comes down to your system, settings, and what apps you play imho. For me with a Q3/i913900k/rtx4090 I get the best results using my official link cable connected to my z790mb usb 3.2 type-c port. With flight and racing sims I get better distance clarity, fewer compression artifacts, and 7-10ms less latency compared to any wireless options. Other than sims I much prefer the freedom of being wireless. Properly setup I don’t see any significant differences between Air Link and Virtual Desktop. I mainly use Air Link but this is purely a personal preference thing. I will say that Virtual Desktop is much easier to setup because you don’t need to know how to properly use ODT or the meta link pc app device settings. Actually, Steam Link is even a bit easier so you may want to try that as well. In any case I’m glad you’ve found something that works well for you.
I wonder how much of my issue is half life. I should test other games with the link cable, steam link, and air link. Maybe Alyx just works better with VD on my setup
@@ulrichfirelord I don't think so because HLA is just about the best VR game for finding it's own best settings. All you need to do is use its default graphics settings. Just make sure to set your SteamVR global visual settings manually (not auto) to 100%. I'm not sure but VD might automatically be doing this for you.
Same experience I had with the Link Cable couple years ago when I bought a Oculus 2. Now I bought a Quest 3 and I went with Virtual Desktop. Miles better, and Im currently (temporarily) on WiFi lol.
I created a mobile hotspot on 5ghz (sharing internet via Ethernet) and connected my quest 3 to it, fired up VD, and half life runs flawless. Was laggy on my family 5ghz router. Make sure your WiFi card has 5ghz.
I have tried them all and Virtual Desktop with a good dedicated Wifi 6 router (I used a TP-Link AX3000 - don't use the ethernet cable that comes in the box) running at 2401Mbps is fantastic.
i tested every way to connect to my pc wirelessly on my quest 3 and virtual desktop has the best streaming quality in my opinion, that may be because i was using AV1, nothing else has AV1 currently except for virtual desktop
I, too, ignored Virtual Desktop for the longest time. I ended up getting it in January for UEVR, and it is great. The best part about it, imo, is that it can be left running full time so I can just stick the headset on and be running PCVR right away.
Hi, nice video You HAVE to play these games: -Red matter 1 and 2 - The walking dead sainst and sinners 1 and 2 -Vertigo remastered and vertigo 2 -Wanderer -Genotype -Arizona sunshine 2 -The room vr
Same problem i had with my quest 2, but i spent money on 2 kiwi usb-c cables before getting virtual desktop. I can truly say, with an eero wifi6 next to me worked so much better! I just use the cable to keep the headset charging. So cookies to the devs for the app and gladly with pay for it again for my next quest 3
@@Hugodoys I can tell by my own experience… I have a quest2 AND bought a quest3 with the same meta account, then all applications I bought for the quest 2 (and quest 1) are listed and available (already paid) for my quest3… Then I just downloaded virtual desktop in my quest3… it worked perfectly.
Don‘t get me wrong VD is really great. But you definitely had a faulty link cable or something is wrong with your USB port or something. I used multible link cables with quest 2 and 3 in situations with bad WiFi and the connection was always smooth with a clear picture. Sometimes the quest link software can bug out but a simple reconnect always fixed that.
Virtual Desktop Beta! In the headset you need to click the 3 dots on the app. Opt into the beta version. 1.3.3 or something like that. Then, you need to hit the 3 dots again and hit “update.” Obviously, you need too update the PC VD version as well. A lot of the videos on it right now have a link for the oculus store that doesn’t work- you don’t need it!
I didn't even know there was a beta. What all does it let you do that's different? Well I mean you don't have to list everything lol. But I assume there's probably one or two cool things in there huh?
$22 - 16FT Link Cable for Meta Oculus Quest 2/3/Pro and PC VR Gaming • USB 3.0 Type C Cable with Separate Charging Port, you got robbed, like so many other suckers.
I think he's just trying to tell us he did everything the manufacturer recommends perfeclty to ensure he gets the best experience possible and still had better results with an aftermarket app. If he would have used another cable, some people would complain about that.
I mean virtual desktop is superior and wireless is better for most use cases as well🤷🏽♂️. If your talking that cable vs whatever cable meta sells the totally agree.
thanks for you video, Seeking advice from you: I use Quest 3 + VD for wireless streaming to play DCS. I've tried to lower the in-game settings of DCS,and currently, the frame rate and effects are basically satisfactory. However, occasionally the 3D image on the Quest headset freezes while the image on the computer screen remains visible. I have no choice but to force quit the game. It's very annoying, especially when trying to view the map with F10 during big missions. I've already dedicated a great game wifi6 router for the computer and Quest headset, with the computer connected via Ethernet cable. It's confirmed to be a gigabit network. I wonder if you have encountered this situation? The VD image quality is great, but it's just not stable. It's very frustrating. Thank you all for your help! My Computer specs: i5 12600 + 4060ti + 32GB RAM.
I don't think I've had that happen to me yet. I'm sorry I can't be much help with this. the only other thing I could recommend is maybe make sure there's absolutely nothing in-between your quest and your Wi-Fi router. I had mine behind a tv once and it made the connection worse. once i moved the router out in the open it was a lot better. I hope you're able to get this fixed I know how frustrating these situations are. I hate when stuff like this happens.
I had the link cable stutter too, try disabling hardware accelerated GPU scheduling, It worked for me, no more skippy, stuttery gameplay on the link cable!
I will hve to correct you there.. The Meta Link Cable IS a Type-C cable, But USB-C is JUST the connector. It doesn't say anything else about that cable. Similar to HDMI and DisplayPort. The noodle-y bit itself is actually a Fibre Optic cable. and this is VERY important. In VR, a 5 meter cable is generally seen as the sweet spot, but a normal USB cable, one made of copper, generally craps out around 3 meters. There are manyways to solve this and one of which is turning that electrical signal into a laser and blasting that through a cable, this is much less prone to signal loss and keeps a lot of the integrity of that data. The problem is... The price. THe Technology it self isn't cheap and you can easily mess this up, so buy a cheaper alternative may harm you more than do good. Personally, I would consider the 80 dollar price tag a mostly fair price. I would love to have seen them sell it for 60 dollars but it is Meta and as a company they still need money.
So I just discovered the magic of virtual desktop. It just works. Period. Amazing. I do have a question though. My quest 3 still says air link is active. What’s that about?
Virtual Desktop is the best. Lets you play Oculus Rift games and steam VR. Just Works. As for games to play in VR. Phasmaphobia and The Forest support VR and are fun in multiplayer
Question - If I buy it for the primary account on my headset, can secondary accounts on the same headset use it without having to buy it again? That works for some games on quest and I was hoping it was the same deal for virtual desktop.
I haven't tried it, but I did find this Reddit post that might help www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/kd3bcl/if_i_get_virtual_desktop_on_my_pc_would_multiple/
@@ulrichfirelord Thanks for looking! That's all I really came across too. It's not quite the scenario I'm hoping to find out about. I have a quest 2 and a quest 3 with the same primary account so I can use a secondary account on one in order to play games together on both headsets even though the primary account is the only one that purchased the game. If I only had to buy VD once on the primary so both headsets could use it at the same time, that'd save me some moneyzzz.
they should go to jail for making a 15 dollar product and selling it for 80. Literally the same experience with a 10-15 dollars product from amazon. Unfortunately most don't know
Why don't most know about this? It's logical that a simple cable shouldn't cost more than $10 even if it is of high quality. When their headset, with all the optics, screens, sensors and processors costs $250, then how can a cable for it cost $80?
It is a steep price but it is also an fiber optic cable not copper and allows full charge rate and bandwidth @ 5m. When the quest first came out they needed a high bandwidth cable but through updates they bandwidth requirements dropped and cheap cables work.
@@mrzon9344 Lol! No, it is not a fiber optic cable! 😂 Fiber optic cables require completely different transmitter and receiver. You cannot swap a copper cable for a fiber optic cable while keeping the type-c connectors.
I bought the cheapest router at Walmart and it works great. It works as a router, range extender, or an access point. It's pretty versatile for being like 30 dollars. No complaints so far. www.walmart.com/ip/TP-Link-Archer-C54-AC1200-MU-MIMO-Dual-Band-WiFi-Router-Works-with-All-Home-Internet-Providers/836529554?fulfillmentIntent=In-store&athbdg=L1600&from=/search
With the encode bit rate set to 500 and link sharpening set to normal in the Oculus Debug Tool, also 70hz and max res on the pc app, so far I haven't found any other method that beats my fiber optic link cable. I'm glad VD works for people, but for me it's poor in comparison .
@@bluebell1I think that was the problem with alyx. I use oculus killer which is a program that stops the oculus app and starts the wired connection directly in steam VR, I need to do this for some games including alyx. Basically the oculus app is running in the back using 20% of your CPU for no reason. Steam VR also takes a lot of juice but if you tweak the options to remove the home environment thing it's not that bad.
You need at the very least a GTX 970 GPU or equivalent. Your PC has an Intel UHD iGPU. It's below minimum standards for VD but the app won't stop you from trying. I doubt you'll get good results though.
Beat saber #16 player of spain here. I was a link cable user, but I started to use virtual desktop when I got the quest 3. My pc has an AMD gpu, and I use a simple 50$ wifi 6 router. I have around 40 ms of delay and I can say it's totally playable, you get used to the delay, it isn't really a disadvantage specially compared to the link cable. Link cable has a LOT of delay, it's not like a HDMI / display port vr headset. Link has around 25 ms of delay, to that you gotta add the game delay 3-5 ms more. So in total link has around the 30 ms of delay. Said this even on rhythm games at fast speeds you get used to it, I prefer virtual desktop now that I got used to it, as it's just faster to get started and it also has better visual quality than link cable (Even increasing the bitrate of the link cable, it looks kinda blurry compared with virtual desktop)
I also just recently got Virtual Desktop.. mainly for it's SBS support for games that work with reShade. and 3d video/photos. For more games. Into the Radius and Saint and Sinners (the first chapter) are amazing. Both you can just keep playing after the story ends. Saint n Sinners has an approx 28 in game day story, i kept playing till day 144.
I find that funny because I started using virtual desktop because I was having issues with link or air link and then I never went back. It's interesting how differently software can function for different people on different hardware and whatnot.
@UlrichFireLord Try the VR game HELLSPLIT ARENA amazing combat game. I have to many VR game recommendations. I could leave you great long list of good VR games but HELLSPLIT ARENA for now. Also no wait highly recommend LEGENDARY TALES its a pricey VR game but trust me. 👍 Lol
That's interesting bc i was thinking the same thing about not buying it for the exact same reason great video and justification maybe ill give it download again and try it out
I bought Virtual Desktop when I bought my Oculus Go and ever since it was the first app I installed on a new headset. I have it on my Pico4, my Quest3 and will put it on any future headset. It works better than anything. It's not always perfect, but cables? On a wireless headset? What for? I see more people struggle with their cables than with their wireless connection.
You buy the VD app in the oculus store (the one when wearing the headset) and then you download the free streamer app for your computer and they connect with each other and that's all you'll need.
@@ulrichfirelord good to know!! Would you know the required connection specs if i do not have my pc connected via ethernet (im on a wifi extender with a 5G signal)
Unfortunately they heavily recommend your computer to be wired to your internet. I was using a Wi-Fi extender previously when using steam link and air link and it wasn't very good, maybe if you get your Wi-Fi extender as close as possible and you're on 5 GHz Network with really good internet it won't be too bad, but I really can't say for sure. What I can say though is I do not have Wi-Fi 6 yet and even though my computer is wired, my Wi-Fi 5 router works great. If you go ahead and try I hope it works for you.
ok yea i dont have an ethernet port on my laptop because it says it uses some wifi6 technology which is really fast apparently. it cant hurt to try VD but is a wire still superior even with fastest ethernet wired connection using VD? @@ulrichfirelord
Well.. there is a new oculus link app for pc that includes rtx4000 support - which I presume is av1 encoding too - and I think steamlink recently got updated too. So is this still valid? Is virtual desktop better than the new oculus link app?
People sleep on the link cable for charging in my opinion. If you use the link cable (5 meters/16 feet cable) with the adapter that came in the box with the Quest 2/3, you can charge your headset even while you play. I have the link cable and I use virtual desktop to play wireless, until I'm low on battery and then it's time to use an incredibly long cable that keeps me flexible to play AND charge the headset. Something to keep in mind though is to use the Velcro strap to attach the cable to the bands of the Quest head strap, this will keep the usb-c connector and the quest usb-c port from being damaged by keeping the cable straight and not having it hang directly from the port.
@@ulrichfirelord yeah, I plug the cable to the charging adapter that came with the quest and plug it to the wall, and I use virtual desktop to play PCVR
Must be something wrong with your setup. I can't believe using VD over WiFi would give you better results than a direct cable connection. Perhaps the USB-C port on your laptop isn't running at full speed?
There's another option now though. Valve put out Steam Link for free, which is another free way to play Steam games wirelessly on the Quest 2/3. Virtual Desktop is still the best though.
Airlink - as he mentioned in the video has been around for long. Quest 2 and 3 both have it. Virtual Desktop - again as he said $20. I recently bought VD myself after thinking Airlink would be just fine... and boy o boy, Airlink works sure.. but VD just blows it out the water xD (WiFi 6 router, 5G network and all just for my Quest) but Airlink just isn't able to truly keep up, even though it at least works.
Spent 3 weeks drinking around with that cable and air link. And when it did work it that annoying ahhh sound/music that never stops. I think meta has abandoned or give minimal effort to that environment because they want you in their system to spend money. Steam link has been working fantastic out of the box. This vid seals the deal on VR desktop though.
06:22 unfortunately being excited for steam link and having it also not be very great for me was what made me decide to buy virtual desktop and the inspiration for this video. I'm glad it's working for you though that's awesome!
Virtual desktop is way better. The options allow me to have a much clearer image with no noticeable added latency. Tho steam link is good and easy to use. Virtual desktop is the best in class by far.
Simply said: Virtual Desktop was more developed than Air Link. They already polished it in much better use because VD was there already for some time before Air Link was added. Also entering SteamVR with VD is much easier and faster than with Oculus/Meta Link. I bought almost immediately VD when i got Q2 and it works very well. VD can even enable Snapdragon Upscaling option - you should do it - because it makes picture much sharper. Especially on Quest 3 you will see the sharpness more. Seperated WiFi router is very advised. And if you bought VD for Q2, you can use it already for Q3. Still one price for all. Nice! Expect Pico need own VD. I bought VD btw when there is sale, so 30% off on VD makes it even more cheaper!
Yeah, it was working long before Air Link was even announced... we even had to hack our headsets to get it to work because it wasn't allowed or supported... and now... it's still the better option for wireless VR, and even just flatpanel media on a giant screen, or just watching 3D movies etc...
VD is the bomb I've been rocking it since the quest Classic back in 2019. But steam link is good too. Air link is just crap. I can't believe quest can't even get its own wireless protocol right.
Ya, I’ve been rocking with VD for +4yrs starting with my Q1. It even worked better than Link when it first came out. Both Link and Air Link have improved a lot over the last year or so imho. With my Q3 and QPro/rtx4090 I find I still get the best results with a link cable. Other than sims, I like wireless a lot better. With the right settings I don’t see any significant differences between VD and Air Link. So to me it really just comes down to personal preferences imho:
@@tomc1380 I stopped using Meta Airlink completely. Don't need it. VD and Steam (which don't seem to be too different when it comes to connectivity) are perfect solutions so there's no need at all for me to use air link (Plus I really hate the interface). ;)
@@crooker2 Please use whatever works best for you mate and don't feel you need to justify your preferences. Try to understand that what works best for you may not necessarily work best for all. Lots of different ways to skin the same cat, lol! Cheers.
@@Tensentities Ya, Air Link works as well for me with both my Q3 and QPro/rtx4090 as VD. All comes down to using the prope settings on both wireless options. To say that one is significantly better than the other is nonsense imho. For sims, and some games that don't need a lot of moving around, Link at 650mbps encoding bitrate works a little better tham any wireless options. Better distance clarity, no significant compression artifacts, and lower latency.
actually this video helped me decide whether i buy it or not. he answered some questions i had. i thought this app is not worth it until i saw his video. and now im heading to quest store to get it.
@@Factsfun-kg4xc not only that they cost $1200, $450 and $370 respectively. 2 3070ti ‘s and 1 3080 ti. And the 16gb on my 3080ti laptop gives me better settings than a 3080 desktop🤷🏽♂️. In fact my 3070ti’s perform with desktop 3060ti’s and my 3080ti laptop keeps up with a desktop 3070-3070ti plus has 16gb vram. Runs smooth and at 120hz. The only lies are the ones your telling yourself.
Virtual Desktop is an amazing piece of software… I even use it when I am on a trip away from home to work remotely on my computer…
They just updated vd so that hand tracking works in steamVR!!!!!!
awesome!
How do you do that? They have Remote connection???
@@x_flies yes… through wifi6
@@x_flies Yep remote connection works by default. Just make sure it's enable in the Options tab of the streamer.
Just bought it off your recommendation! I’ve been looking at it for so long, but at the exact same thoughts beforehand.
Excited to try it later today!
That said, you should drop your referral link in this video!
Hopefully it works well for you. I have no idea how referral links even work or how to get them lol
Really comes down to your system, settings, and what apps you play imho. For me with a Q3/i913900k/rtx4090 I get the best results using my official link cable connected to my z790mb usb 3.2 type-c port. With flight and racing sims I get better distance clarity, fewer compression artifacts, and 7-10ms less latency compared to any wireless options. Other than sims I much prefer the freedom of being wireless. Properly setup I don’t see any significant differences between Air Link and Virtual Desktop. I mainly use Air Link but this is purely a personal preference thing. I will say that Virtual Desktop is much easier to setup because you don’t need to know how to properly use ODT or the meta link pc app device settings. Actually, Steam Link is even a bit easier so you may want to try that as well. In any case I’m glad you’ve found something that works well for you.
I wonder how much of my issue is half life. I should test other games with the link cable, steam link, and air link. Maybe Alyx just works better with VD on my setup
@@ulrichfirelord I don't think so because HLA is just about the best VR game for finding it's own best settings. All you need to do is use its default graphics settings. Just make sure to set your SteamVR global visual settings manually (not auto) to 100%. I'm not sure but VD might automatically be doing this for you.
Same experience for me. When I switched to Virtual Desktop it was the game changer my quest 3 needed as the Oculus software is trash
Same experience I had with the Link Cable couple years ago when I bought a Oculus 2. Now I bought a Quest 3 and I went with Virtual Desktop. Miles better, and Im currently (temporarily) on WiFi lol.
Brought VD not long after brought my QUEST 3 best PCVR experience, now they even support Quest 3 FBT even amazing.
Your colored LEDs gives me nostalgia, idk why
I created a mobile hotspot on 5ghz (sharing internet via Ethernet) and connected my quest 3 to it, fired up VD, and half life runs flawless. Was laggy on my family 5ghz router. Make sure your WiFi card has 5ghz.
I have tried them all and Virtual Desktop with a good dedicated Wifi 6 router (I used a TP-Link AX3000 - don't use the ethernet cable that comes in the box) running at 2401Mbps is fantastic.
i tested every way to connect to my pc wirelessly on my quest 3 and virtual desktop has the best streaming quality in my opinion, that may be because i was using AV1, nothing else has AV1 currently except for virtual desktop
I, too, ignored Virtual Desktop for the longest time. I ended up getting it in January for UEVR, and it is great.
The best part about it, imo, is that it can be left running full time so I can just stick the headset on and be running PCVR right away.
I was resistant too but after trying with the quest3 refund policy in mind I realised $20 was quite a bargain, this is great stuff
Hi, nice video
You HAVE to play these games:
-Red matter 1 and 2
- The walking dead sainst and sinners 1 and 2
-Vertigo remastered and vertigo 2
-Wanderer
-Genotype
-Arizona sunshine 2
-The room vr
Same problem i had with my quest 2, but i spent money on 2 kiwi usb-c cables before getting virtual desktop. I can truly say, with an eero wifi6 next to me worked so much better! I just use the cable to keep the headset charging. So cookies to the devs for the app and gladly with pay for it again for my next quest 3
currently using it with Quest 3
You paid once for Virtual Desktop… you won’t have to pay again…
@@tuttoto Really? Long ago i remember you had to pay for it for each different device. Long ago i mean like two years
@@Hugodoys I can tell by my own experience… I have a quest2 AND bought a quest3 with the same meta account, then all applications I bought for the quest 2 (and quest 1) are listed and available (already paid) for my quest3…
Then I just downloaded virtual desktop in my quest3… it worked perfectly.
Yeah I usually end up finishing with my right hand as well 🤷♂
Don‘t get me wrong VD is really great. But you definitely had a faulty link cable or something is wrong with your USB port or something.
I used multible link cables with quest 2 and 3 in situations with bad WiFi and the connection was always smooth with a clear picture.
Sometimes the quest link software can bug out but a simple reconnect always fixed that.
Virtual Desktop Beta! In the headset you need to click the 3 dots on the app. Opt into the beta version. 1.3.3 or something like that. Then, you need to hit the 3 dots again and hit “update.” Obviously, you need too update the PC VD version as well. A lot of the videos on it right now have a link for the oculus store that doesn’t work- you don’t need it!
Girl- Quest 3 now has FBE!!
I didn't even know there was a beta. What all does it let you do that's different? Well I mean you don't have to list everything lol. But I assume there's probably one or two cool things in there huh?
Is the beta free?
@@ulrichfirelord The two notable things in the beta, in my opinion, are better synchronous space warp and full body estimation.
@@mitchio83Yeah
$22 - 16FT Link Cable for Meta Oculus Quest 2/3/Pro and PC VR Gaming • USB 3.0 Type C Cable with Separate Charging Port, you got robbed, like so many other suckers.
I think he's just trying to tell us he did everything the manufacturer recommends perfeclty to ensure he gets the best experience possible and still had better results with an aftermarket app. If he would have used another cable, some people would complain about that.
I mean virtual desktop is superior and wireless is better for most use cases as well🤷🏽♂️.
If your talking that cable vs whatever cable meta sells the totally agree.
Which USB type c did you plugged the cable?
thanks for you video, Seeking advice from you:
I use Quest 3 + VD for wireless streaming to play DCS.
I've tried to lower the in-game settings of DCS,and currently, the frame rate and effects are basically satisfactory.
However, occasionally the 3D image on the Quest headset freezes while the image on the computer screen remains visible.
I have no choice but to force quit the game. It's very annoying, especially when trying to view the map with F10 during big missions.
I've already dedicated a great game wifi6 router for the computer and Quest headset, with the computer connected via Ethernet cable. It's confirmed to be a gigabit network.
I wonder if you have encountered this situation? The VD image quality is great, but it's just not stable. It's very frustrating.
Thank you all for your help!
My Computer specs: i5 12600 + 4060ti + 32GB RAM.
I don't think I've had that happen to me yet. I'm sorry I can't be much help with this. the only other thing I could recommend is maybe make sure there's absolutely nothing in-between your quest and your Wi-Fi router. I had mine behind a tv once and it made the connection worse. once i moved the router out in the open it was a lot better. I hope you're able to get this fixed I know how frustrating these situations are. I hate when stuff like this happens.
I had the link cable stutter too, try disabling hardware accelerated GPU scheduling, It worked for me, no more skippy, stuttery gameplay on the link cable!
Hey thanks I'll give that a try!
I will hve to correct you there..
The Meta Link Cable IS a Type-C cable, But USB-C is JUST the connector. It doesn't say anything else about that cable. Similar to HDMI and DisplayPort.
The noodle-y bit itself is actually a Fibre Optic cable. and this is VERY important. In VR, a 5 meter cable is generally seen as the sweet spot, but a normal USB cable, one made of copper, generally craps out around 3 meters. There are manyways to solve this and one of which is turning that electrical signal into a laser and blasting that through a cable, this is much less prone to signal loss and keeps a lot of the integrity of that data.
The problem is... The price. THe Technology it self isn't cheap and you can easily mess this up, so buy a cheaper alternative may harm you more than do good. Personally, I would consider the 80 dollar price tag a mostly fair price. I would love to have seen them sell it for 60 dollars but it is Meta and as a company they still need money.
So I just discovered the magic of virtual desktop. It just works. Period. Amazing. I do have a question though. My quest 3 still says air link is active. What’s that about?
Virtual Desktop is the best. Lets you play Oculus Rift games and steam VR. Just Works. As for games to play in VR. Phasmaphobia and The Forest support VR and are fun in multiplayer
Omg. Thinking about the same thing. Half life. Vr. Thanks
Question - If I buy it for the primary account on my headset, can secondary accounts on the same headset use it without having to buy it again? That works for some games on quest and I was hoping it was the same deal for virtual desktop.
I haven't tried it, but I did find this Reddit post that might help www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/kd3bcl/if_i_get_virtual_desktop_on_my_pc_would_multiple/
@@ulrichfirelord Thanks for looking! That's all I really came across too. It's not quite the scenario I'm hoping to find out about. I have a quest 2 and a quest 3 with the same primary account so I can use a secondary account on one in order to play games together on both headsets even though the primary account is the only one that purchased the game. If I only had to buy VD once on the primary so both headsets could use it at the same time, that'd save me some moneyzzz.
No. You need to own it on each account. Not VD's fault, it's a headset store thing.
@@OpenSorce Alright, thank you!
Try Contractors Showdown, it's in Open beta this month and the servers are up on the weekends
Thanks for the recommendation. The screenshots look awesome. I have the playtest downloading now.
BEST GUN Simulation h3vr
they should go to jail for making a 15 dollar product and selling it for 80. Literally the same experience with a 10-15 dollars product from amazon. Unfortunately most don't know
Why don't most know about this? It's logical that a simple cable shouldn't cost more than $10 even if it is of high quality. When their headset, with all the optics, screens, sensors and processors costs $250, then how can a cable for it cost $80?
It is a steep price but it is also an fiber optic cable not copper and allows full charge rate and bandwidth @ 5m. When the quest first came out they needed a high bandwidth cable but through updates they bandwidth requirements dropped and cheap cables work.
@@mrzon9344 Lol! No, it is not a fiber optic cable! 😂 Fiber optic cables require completely different transmitter and receiver. You cannot swap a copper cable for a fiber optic cable while keeping the type-c connectors.
I get stuttering with the cable in iracing …Did you use a wifi 6 or 6e router in your upgrade ??
I bought the cheapest router at Walmart and it works great. It works as a router, range extender, or an access point. It's pretty versatile for being like 30 dollars. No complaints so far.
www.walmart.com/ip/TP-Link-Archer-C54-AC1200-MU-MIMO-Dual-Band-WiFi-Router-Works-with-All-Home-Internet-Providers/836529554?fulfillmentIntent=In-store&athbdg=L1600&from=/search
This is a 5Ghz wifi 5 access point 👍
Works well though lol
With the encode bit rate set to 500 and link sharpening set to normal in the Oculus Debug Tool, also 70hz and max res on the pc app, so far I haven't found any other method that beats my fiber optic link cable. I'm glad VD works for people, but for me it's poor in comparison .
0:21 😂😂😂 got me too
I love to use Virtual Desktop not just for playing games. I love to use my PC on a 200 inch Screen
Movies is even better and oh dont forget the amazing environments
I bought a $20 USB type C cable on Amazon and it works fine
i play in my bed, downstairs, wherever. But ou have fun with your cable if thats works best for you ;)
Should I buy Virtual Desktop on Meta Store for the Quest 3 or on Steam (my PC)?
Buy it inside the quest. The store inside of it while you're wearing it.
@@ulrichfirelord Thanks!
Buy it on the Quest store. The Steam version is for headsets that wire directly to your GPU not standalone headsets with an app store.
I think i will buy it inside my Quest 3 too
can you play half life alex on VD without having the oculus desktop software open and just steam vr?
Pretty sure you don't need the oculus software to play steam VR games with virtual desktop, but you do need the free streamer app on your computer.
Yes, open VD in your Quest and it’ll connect to your PC. No need to open Oculus
@@bluebell1I think that was the problem with alyx. I use oculus killer which is a program that stops the oculus app and starts the wired connection directly in steam VR, I need to do this for some games including alyx. Basically the oculus app is running in the back using 20% of your CPU for no reason. Steam VR also takes a lot of juice but if you tweak the options to remove the home environment thing it's not that bad.
@@bluebell1wait what?
@k0lpA make a video on this please. Ive never heard of this
Do we need a gaming PC for playing that kind of game with virtual desktop (I have a MeLE Quieter3C Mini PC) ?
If it meets Metas minimum requirements for a vr ready pc then yes
You need at the very least a GTX 970 GPU or equivalent. Your PC has an Intel UHD iGPU. It's below minimum standards for VD but the app won't stop you from trying. I doubt you'll get good results though.
Beat saber #16 player of spain here.
I was a link cable user, but I started to use virtual desktop when I got the quest 3. My pc has an AMD gpu, and I use a simple 50$ wifi 6 router. I have around 40 ms of delay and I can say it's totally playable, you get used to the delay, it isn't really a disadvantage specially compared to the link cable. Link cable has a LOT of delay, it's not like a HDMI / display port vr headset. Link has around 25 ms of delay, to that you gotta add the game delay 3-5 ms more. So in total link has around the 30 ms of delay. Said this even on rhythm games at fast speeds you get used to it, I prefer virtual desktop now that I got used to it, as it's just faster to get started and it also has better visual quality than link cable (Even increasing the bitrate of the link cable, it looks kinda blurry compared with virtual desktop)
That's why I download nalaluna latency mod. I cand fine tune the audio latency in beatsaber just like I want it. And that made VD with beatsaber great
I also just recently got Virtual Desktop.. mainly for it's SBS support for games that work with reShade. and 3d video/photos.
For more games. Into the Radius and Saint and Sinners (the first chapter) are amazing. Both you can just keep playing after the story ends. Saint n Sinners has an approx 28 in game day story, i kept playing till day 144.
Hello. Thanks for the video. What is the specs of the laptop you purchased to play PCVR?
I went back to virtual desktop recently due to air link having issues. Its way better than I remembered 2 years ago when i got it
I find that funny because I started using virtual desktop because I was having issues with link or air link and then I never went back.
It's interesting how differently software can function for different people on different hardware and whatnot.
try Stormland now that it is back on the store!
Do i have to uninstall SteamLink VR to use VD? Or can i have them both installed and only use VD?
I think I have them both installed
@@ulrichfirelord sweet I’ll just have them both installed and only launch from VD
Why did you buy the worst cable?
lol
Steam Link has been the best experience for me and it's free.
no
VD better
steam ui is ass
@@Dreamer66617you know you sound like a idiot, you can not say someones opinion is wrong
I like how quickly I can start my SteamVR games.
You *must* play Vertigo 2. Though after you play it, you won't be impressed by anything else.
What’s so good about it
@@slap2870it's meh
@UlrichFireLord Try the VR game HELLSPLIT ARENA amazing combat game. I have to many VR game recommendations. I could leave you great long list of good VR games but HELLSPLIT ARENA for now. Also no wait highly recommend LEGENDARY TALES its a pricey VR game but trust me. 👍 Lol
Thanks for the recommendations!
if you want the best gun game h3vr or hotdogs horseshoes hand grenades
That's interesting bc i was thinking the same thing about not buying it for the exact same reason great video and justification maybe ill give it download again and try it out
Lol, wait until you make the move to quest 3.
I bought the quest 3 even though I mainly play pcvr and its not really worth it
@@affedoslol The Quest 3 is more than worth wtf you on. It has the best value of any headset on the market easily
Been using virtual desktop for years, it works great. Personally I like the personal theater room and the passthrough room sometimes.
did you pay the $20 ?
I did
I bought Virtual Desktop when I bought my Oculus Go and ever since it was the first app I installed on a new headset. I have it on my Pico4, my Quest3 and will put it on any future headset.
It works better than anything. It's not always perfect, but cables? On a wireless headset? What for? I see more people struggle with their cables than with their wireless connection.
wait dont you still need to connect your quest to pick up virtual desktop?
You buy the VD app in the oculus store (the one when wearing the headset) and then you download the free streamer app for your computer and they connect with each other and that's all you'll need.
@@ulrichfirelord good to know!! Would you know the required connection specs if i do not have my pc connected via ethernet (im on a wifi extender with a 5G signal)
Unfortunately they heavily recommend your computer to be wired to your internet. I was using a Wi-Fi extender previously when using steam link and air link and it wasn't very good, maybe if you get your Wi-Fi extender as close as possible and you're on 5 GHz Network with really good internet it won't be too bad, but I really can't say for sure. What I can say though is I do not have Wi-Fi 6 yet and even though my computer is wired, my Wi-Fi 5 router works great. If you go ahead and try I hope it works for you.
ok yea i dont have an ethernet port on my laptop because it says it uses some wifi6 technology which is really fast apparently. it cant hurt to try VD but is a wire still superior even with fastest ethernet wired connection using VD? @@ulrichfirelord
@@baseballa101 yeah wired will always be best you might be able to use one of these to wire your laptop if it'll let you. rb.gy/vd20ki
Well.. there is a new oculus link app for pc that includes rtx4000 support - which I presume is av1 encoding too - and I think steamlink recently got updated too. So is this still valid? Is virtual desktop better than the new oculus link app?
Much better
People sleep on the link cable for charging in my opinion. If you use the link cable (5 meters/16 feet cable) with the adapter that came in the box with the Quest 2/3, you can charge your headset even while you play. I have the link cable and I use virtual desktop to play wireless, until I'm low on battery and then it's time to use an incredibly long cable that keeps me flexible to play AND charge the headset. Something to keep in mind though is to use the Velcro strap to attach the cable to the bands of the Quest head strap, this will keep the usb-c connector and the quest usb-c port from being damaged by keeping the cable straight and not having it hang directly from the port.
You use the cable to charge while playing with virtual desktop?
@@ulrichfirelord yeah, I plug the cable to the charging adapter that came with the quest and plug it to the wall, and I use virtual desktop to play PCVR
That's a pretty good idea!
@@Madkangaroo Just take a good power bank and put it in your pocket... or wherever.
Best vr experience out there for connecting to steam
Must be something wrong with your setup. I can't believe using VD over WiFi would give you better results than a direct cable connection. Perhaps the USB-C port on your laptop isn't running at full speed?
VD looks ten times beter and way more sharper then Link. After VD use and switch back to Link it's ugly and not sharp
cool video , I think the quest 3 comes with Vr desktop?
No, I think you're thinking of AirLink
Mine didnt. I dont believe it does
There's another option now though. Valve put out Steam Link for free, which is another free way to play Steam games wirelessly on the Quest 2/3. Virtual Desktop is still the best though.
no
Airlink - as he mentioned in the video has been around for long. Quest 2 and 3 both have it. Virtual Desktop - again as he said $20. I recently bought VD myself after thinking Airlink would be just fine... and boy o boy, Airlink works sure.. but VD just blows it out the water xD (WiFi 6 router, 5G network and all just for my Quest) but Airlink just isn't able to truly keep up, even though it at least works.
Spent 3 weeks drinking around with that cable and air link. And when it did work it that annoying ahhh sound/music that never stops. I think meta has abandoned or give minimal effort to that environment because they want you in their system to spend money. Steam link has been working fantastic out of the box. This vid seals the deal on VR desktop though.
Virtual Desktop is the best.
Wait until you find out about Steamlink. I had to drop Virtual Desktop.
06:22 unfortunately being excited for steam link and having it also not be very great for me was what made me decide to buy virtual desktop and the inspiration for this video. I'm glad it's working for you though that's awesome!
Is it really better? I tried it once but it felt like Virtual Desktop runs smoother and has more options like eliminating headlock.
Virtual desktop is way better. The options allow me to have a much clearer image with no noticeable added latency. Tho steam link is good and easy to use. Virtual desktop is the best in class by far.
Simply said: Virtual Desktop was more developed than Air Link. They already polished it in much better use because VD was there already for some time before Air Link was added. Also entering SteamVR with VD is much easier and faster than with Oculus/Meta Link.
I bought almost immediately VD when i got Q2 and it works very well. VD can even enable Snapdragon Upscaling option - you should do it - because it makes picture much sharper. Especially on Quest 3 you will see the sharpness more. Seperated WiFi router is very advised.
And if you bought VD for Q2, you can use it already for Q3. Still one price for all. Nice! Expect Pico need own VD.
I bought VD btw when there is sale, so 30% off on VD makes it even more cheaper!
Yeah, it was working long before Air Link was even announced... we even had to hack our headsets to get it to work because it wasn't allowed or supported... and now... it's still the better option for wireless VR, and even just flatpanel media on a giant screen, or just watching 3D movies etc...
Virtual Desktop is awesome. Way better than airlink
VD is the bomb I've been rocking it since the quest Classic back in 2019.
But steam link is good too.
Air link is just crap. I can't believe quest can't even get its own wireless protocol right.
Ya, I’ve been rocking with VD for +4yrs starting with my Q1. It even worked better than Link when it first came out. Both Link and Air Link have improved a lot over the last year or so imho. With my Q3 and QPro/rtx4090 I find I still get the best results with a link cable. Other than sims, I like wireless a lot better. With the right settings I don’t see any significant differences between VD and Air Link. So to me it really just comes down to personal preferences imho:
@@tomc1380 I stopped using Meta Airlink completely. Don't need it. VD and Steam (which don't seem to be too different when it comes to connectivity) are perfect solutions so there's no need at all for me to use air link (Plus I really hate the interface). ;)
@@crooker2 Please use whatever works best for you mate and don't feel you need to justify your preferences. Try to understand that what works best for you may not necessarily work best for all. Lots of different ways to skin the same cat, lol! Cheers.
@@Tensentities Ya, Air Link works as well for me with both my Q3 and QPro/rtx4090 as VD. All comes down to using the prope settings on both wireless options. To say that one is significantly better than the other is nonsense imho.
For sims, and some games that don't need a lot of moving around, Link at 650mbps encoding bitrate works a little better tham any wireless options. Better distance clarity, no significant compression artifacts, and lower latency.
@@Tensentities cool bro
Steam link is garbage
Stop talking and show it already
I agree I wish I could have included some footage.
actually this video helped me decide whether i buy it or not. he answered some questions i had. i thought this app is not worth it until i saw his video. and now im heading to quest store to get it.
The secound you said Laptop. i knew you were in for a bad time! there is just no way around it! Laptops and PCVR is just a huge NO GO
Yeah all 3 of my laptops play everything pretty much maxed in vr 🤷🏽♂️. Get decent laptop maybe.
@@M-dv1yjnot even going to tell you how bizzare your like are! 🤷🏽♂. Get a decent brain maybe.
@@M-dv1yjkeep the lies flying. not paying attention to them!
@@Factsfun-kg4xc not only that they cost $1200, $450 and $370 respectively. 2 3070ti ‘s and 1 3080 ti. And the 16gb on my 3080ti laptop gives me better settings than a 3080 desktop🤷🏽♂️. In fact my 3070ti’s perform with desktop 3060ti’s and my 3080ti laptop keeps up with a desktop 3070-3070ti plus has 16gb vram.
Runs smooth and at 120hz. The only lies are the ones your telling yourself.
Elite Dangerous!
No one once to hear you talk
tf you talking about lol, i hear him fine.