Why did these idiots do that? Just for clicks? Or are they still superstitious, thinking Kipchoge did some kind of magic cursing? I am a german senior, running fan, googled that tragic accident. Pictures revealed very clearly what happend. At the same pages I saw the trolls beginning and countered them immediately. But with no impact. Yes, sorry, I see Kenya now with different eyes.
@@sleepyjoe6269 That facehugger that jumped onto Kiptum's face right before the turn was trained by Eliud. He secretly fed this thing just for that one purpose: to get rid of Kiptum once and for all.
Eliud Kipchoge is not someone like Michael Jordan or Leo Messi; used to making crazy money and having people say all kinds of crazy stuff about him. He's huge for people who are into running but he's a humble guy and relatively low profile. I think this must be devastating for him. The internet can be such a cesspool.
@@sleepyjoe6269 None, I'm just saying it's your opinions that are dragging other athletes down, while I would love to hear why you believe that. Right here is not the place.
@@PythagorasFormula brah because he refused ro join their club like Kipchoge frfr no cap. If you’re a sports hero they will recruit you or disappear you.
Kipchoge was the one that said if someone breaks his world record he’d be happy bc that’s how sport work. There is no way that he did this. Use common sense. Kipchoge isn’t crazy he’s kind and genuine. He’s a role model and wouldn’t go around killing people bc he’s not that type of person
100%agree, he knew someone else would probably break the record, he's just made it easier for them. He just wants everyone to run. I can't believe people would think he had something to do with it. Some people are just trash.
I felt when his record went down he was a bit annoyed because he didn't publicly congratulate him and he was meanwhile posting all sorts of sponsorship things on his social media, not for a second did I think he had any malice towards kiptum though, and it's absolutely terrible that people actually made these baseless accusations and threats, total scum - I hope Kipchoge gets some peace and makes a good comeback at the Olympics
Exactly...on line threats, ...inept immoral people who are hiding behind a monitor so they don't have to face any consequences. If they had any moral character they'd know Kipchoge respected anyone he raced against.
@@jaycue9606 The same trolls who took down this post yesterday... "Exactly...on line threats, ...inept immoral people who are hiding behind a monitor so they don't have to face any consequences. If they had any moral character they'd know Kipchoge respected anyone he raced against."
This is absolutely disgusting. As if the loss of Kiptum in such tragic circumstances wasn't horrific enough, to think that one of the finest athletes in the history of the sport is having his life and family threatened is just dreadful. Sometimes, I despair of some sections of social media.
I had no idea, thank you for reporting on this. How disgusting. Social media networks need to do better when enforcing their rules on non-English content.
Nope, we still hold the same views. There are so many people in Eldoret (even his camp in Kaptagat) better than him, but because he gate keeps who gets to compete internationally, the world thinks he's the best. Saying this as someone who lives in Kaptagat.
We won't allow it kelvin kiptum was killed together with his coach if they can't give us kenyans justice and his family too then kipchoge doesn't deserve the justice either, kelvin kiptums dad insisted his son was killed but authorities ignored so no justice until we know what happened to kiptum
@@KeruboOnkobaHow exactly was he bitter? He's said on multiple occasions he'd be happy for the guy that might break his record because that is how sports work. He's also congratulated and praised kiptum on multiple occasions.
In most of recent history, when shocking and unexpected events happen, people often grasp at conspiracy theories because they offer them some sort of structure around events that seem totally uncontrollable or unfathomable. And much too often, people cannot face their grief and would rather run with the conspiracy theory, rather than face the fact that often life is unpredictable and bad things happen to people who do not deserve it. I fear Kipchoge is at the receiving end of people who cannot reconcile their grief and are looking for somewhere to aim it.
People have sadly always been like this. However they have become more bold and brazen about it, and the consequences are far more reaching. It used to be confined to a small community, but now you hold those bs accusations against you for the rest of your life now.
@@troybaxter you are absolutely right! And by use of the internet and social media platforms, bubbles of trolls and mobbers can connect themselves and literally swarm anyone that sticks their head out/ gets media exposure and mobb him from all over the world. And sadly the anonymity of the internet protects them and gives them confidence they will never be held accountable for their accusations, they would never otherwise utter in a real life situation.
Absolutely sickening that people are doing this to such a beautiful human like Kipchoge. This makes my blood boil. This human is the most humble and wise athlete alive today. He does not deserve this.
Couldn't have said it better. A man who deliberately seeks out a simple life because he knows how much that's worth, the target of typically thoughtless but also potentially deadly internet falsehoods. This will be seen as the crime it should be one day soon
Hehe 🤣 beautiful what we are Kenyans we know him more than outsiders,he chooses those who competes internationally and never wants those who are best than him to compete, kelvin kiptum was tough one kipchoge couldn't control anything to do with him because kelvin kiptum legs were talking and Kenyans loved him and kipchoge was very bitter about it
@@KeruboOnkoba have seen you propagating this agenda about Kipchoge in several comments, am also a Kenyan and if you are a Christian, hope you know that you will have account for this witness on judgement day too.
There were a few trolls alleging Kiptum was murdered within hours of the news breaking. On one of the Facebook groups I am in, one troll started claiming that Kipchoge was behind it the day it broke. The last post I saw had the heading, "finally Kipchoge will be arrested". This was just a day or two before Tokyo. I suspect the number of complaints to the administrator of the group eventually led to the troll being removed. One comment on one of these posts stands out to me. In some parts of Africa, although not just in that continent, the belief in magic and witchdoctors is strong. And this is what Kipchoge is being accused of, hiring a witchdoctor to put a curse on Kiptum. These trolls "backed up" their claims by saying Kipchoge didn't acknowledge Kiptum's world record, or at least not effusively enough for their liking. There were also allegations that 3 men supposedly turned up at Kiptum's home just before the tragedy. None of this is true of course. From what I have read, Kiptum ran a 40+ km long run that morning and then decided to drive home in the evening. In Australia there are signs all along our regional roads and highways about drowsy drivers dying. Micro sleeps, of just a few seconds, can end in tragedy, which is the most likely cause of the accident that killed Kiptum and his coach, not Kipchoge or a witchdoctor's spells. These accusations are just compounding the tragedy for everyone who is a fan of the sport. Thanks for the video.
@@asadalbrawhether that is the case or not, I'm only suggesting that the troll who made that allegation claimed they were threatening Kiptum and his family and that it was part of the so-called murder plot. It's irrelevant really.
Kipchoge likes giving excuses when he looses,he never congratulates the winner nor recognize the winner he looks for centre of attention we are Kenyans we know him and he was bitter with kelvin kiptum everyone in Kenya knew in Olympic games yes Kenya will win marathon gold but not him may kelvin kiptum continue haunting those who killed him
@@magicboy382 he explained what hehe 😂 please we are Kenyans we know kipchoge more than you that explanation was a lie he never accepts defeat that's how we know him ipity outsiders who thinks they know him more than us
@KeruboOnkoba I accept the fact that you may know more than me as a Kenyan but if a certain person receives death threats for something its well known he couldn't possibly do right before a major marathon you don't have to be a Kenyan to understand it probably affected his performance.
I hate to say this, but having just gotten back from a month spent in Kenya, you have to understand that beliefs and customs are VERY different in Kenya than in the Western world. We’re talking about a place where an overwhelming amount of population still believes in witchcraft and that one can have a curse placed on them. I heard comments 3 or 4 times on how Kip placed a curse on Kiptum. People are very wary of things they do not understand and cannot explain, and to try to explain anything differently..they think you are crazy.
That's a bit dramatic. He has always advised patience in running and every aspect of life. I'm sure he will also have patience in turning this situation around. God bless
As you said, Kipchoge was so excited for Kiptum, saying he might be the first to break 2 hours under legal conditions. That he really looked forward to where Kiptum was going to take the sport and he was looking forward to handing off the reins to him. It's hearbreaking that people would suggest such a thing of one the humblest men in the world.
He was never excited about kelvin kiptum I don't understand why outsiders think they know more than us kenyans, the reason Kenyans were insulting kipchoge is because we knew he never felt good when kelvin kiptum broke the world record,he never even congratulated him and always posted negative things after the record went,but outsiders will think he was good
That's crazy. The day Kiptum died the idea of Kipchoge having something to do with it came to my mind, but as a silly daydream for one second, just as you might daydream about what if elefants are from mars. And now I hear that there are people who really BELIEVE this.
I am Ghanaian and very big fun of Eliud. I have no idea why some Kenyans could even do such a thing to their national hero. Please stop this you Kenyans who are doing this.
Kelvin kiptum used to regard Kipchoge with respect. It is clear from his interview after he won london marathon and also after he broke Kipchoge record at Chicago. He would have hated to see people doing that to Kipchoge who he considered as role model.
The internet has become a cesspool. It's a really cautionary tale, just goes to show that no one is safe anymore and your reputation can be destroyed over nothing literally.
It’s not that there’s overwhelming evidence that Kipchoge was not involved…there is NO evidence that he was involved. The former implies that there was some evidence that might tie him to it. There is no evidence or defensible logic. None whatsoever. Important distinction.
Merci d'avoir fait la lumière sur cette affaire. Même si des personnes avaient des doutes au sujet du décès de Kiptun, de là à proférer des menages sur Eliud, il y a un grand pas. C'est inadmissible de faire cela
This is unbelievably upsetting. Why do people make negative situations even more negative? I almost can't believe this stuff, people are cruel when they fail to reflect.
It's a tale as old as time. When you are at the top, people lesser than and jealous of you will use underhanded tactics to take you down. Stuff like this is why I will never believe in the lie that we can make "Heaven on Earth". People are too cruel and vindictive for such a utopia to exist on this planet.
This is just horrible and the people who did this should be ashamed. Kipchoge wouldn't hurt a fly so I have no clue why they did this. This also explains the sub-par performance at the Tokyo Marathon and I hope he can do better at the olympics.
Kiptum would be appalled by this. I lost my father to a careless driver last year, essentially all for the sake of saving a few fleeting moments on their commute. It's a painful reality losing someone so suddenly and unnaturally but blaming others and spreading hate is not the path to healing, and it certainly doesn't honour the memory of those we've lost. The people spreading these rumours should be disgusted with themselves.
This a sad true and real consequence of stupid fake news some criminals spread on social media. I wish him strenght to endure this and go back to his routine in peace. Thanks for this video. Stay Strong K.
Jesus. They were friendly rivals---Kipchoge is a class act who's openly mourned the loss of his younger compatriot & chief competitor for months...I can only imagine what the story around Pre's death would look like if the internet & social media were around in the '70s
I had read the constant low IQ comments but I was hoping he had a good system to not let online trolls get to him, sucks that they did. If I was famous I would never read the comments, anonymity on the internet has losers thinking they are something special.
Im so sorry that peoples love for gossip and scandal has impacted him in this way. He has always seemed like a kind and generous person who has only wanted to inspire others. I believe in him. I believe he will overcome this through the strength of his spirit and continue to inspire others. ❤
Man it’s so sad how delulu people are. To think Kichoge took apart in Kelvin’s death with clear not no evidence that he didn’t do anything related to Kelvin’s death is so stupid. We all knew at some point in time the 2 hour barrier would be broken in the marathon, either by Kipchoge or another athlete and Kichoge knew this himself as well. Kipchoge wished the best for all athletes that are faster than him on days that he struggles and wishes the best for those who are slower than him and those who look up to him. I wish all the best for Kichoge and his family and kids and hope they stay safe and no harm is made to any of them. He will always have my support. ❤
several years ago I had the pleasure of watching EK break the world record in Berlin from in front of the Adlon Kempinski just short of the Brandenberg Tor. he has always been an inspiration for all who aspire to just be better; as runners and as caring individuals. I have cheered for him from near and afar I respect him for his decency and athleticism.
I love marathon, I enjoyed watching Kipchoge break records and setting new standards. All this came about the time Kiptum broke his record and he kept quiet for a loooong time waiting for "Ratification" of Kiptum's record. Unfortunately, that sparked negativity from fans. The saddest part that most people do not know is that most marathon teams/camps are always competing, but not in a healthy way. Personally, I think Kipchoge had a hard time accepting that his record had been broken and that by itself lay way for trolling and the expectations from the local community that he, being a "mentor/role model" for many upcoming athletes, should have been "the first" in congratulating Kiptum. It's sad that it has all come to this.
The notion that Eliud Kipchoge would have benefited from Kiptum’s death is wrong as well as vile. A Kipchoge-Kiptum match-up would have been the most exciting contest in athletics since Coe vs Ovett. Even if Kelvin Kelvin Kiptum had won, Eliud would have been a winner too because of the excitement and publicity that would have been attracted into the sport of distance running, and specifically into Kenyan running. I sincerely hope that Eliud is able to deal with this awful situation like the champion and fine human being that he is. I hope the 2024 Olympic marathon is a glorious success whoever wins it, and that the Olympic movement can overcome, just as we overcame tragedies such as the terrorist attack at the 1972 Munich Olympics. And may Kelvin rest in peace. Harambe.
I was going to write that the internet/smart phone/social media era has ruined society. But let’s be honest, humans have been doing that long before the internet. However, we now have a wider platform, which when abused can be devastating. More accountability needs to happen both for individuals and social media providers. Ridiculous that such a humble and inspiring athlete, along with his family, have had to go through this. I truly hope Kipchoge realises that more people are on his side than those cowards who hide behind keyboards😢.
Since the internet came into existence it has been the avenue for all kinds of junk, threats,insults, theft, scams, and all kinds of evil. Parents need to teach their kids that you can't trust most of what you se or read. There is no way to police the web. it is too invasive and pervasive. We need to police ourselves and our contacts. There was nothing I looked forward to more than the marathon duel between Kipchoge and Kiptum. Stay safe and be loved.
seen documentary about him some time ago - he is such nice man! how is it even possible to accuse him?! wish him to get gold medal despite all of this mess!
So sad and disgusting. Maybe he should have made a clear and friendly statement praising Kiptum's exceptional abilities (or ensure it had the expected impact if he did). This could have been done since London 2023 where Kipchoge gave the starter. This would have stopped social medias to fuel antipathy and rivaltry. I hope everything will go right for him and he may prepare the olympics with serenity.
Thousands of people die in crashes. When your numbers up...Just because they're well known ( within a certain group)doesn't mean there is a conspiracy of some sort. That's delusional paranoia.
Why? People die in car crashes all the time and there's nothing about being a celebrity that protects you from that. It would honestly be suspicious if famous people never died in car crashes
@@Fourevrlearning He was on track to be the next greatest of all time and you know people will be jealous and hate. And are there more details of the crash? Was he drunk and or speeding? Usually when people die in car crashes they don't just lose control of a vehicle randomly while going the speed limit.
Kiopchoge is an extraordinary human being and a great champion. One of the best long-distance runners ever. It is sad when a person has a hard time accepting the laws of biology, physiology and anatomy. Aging is an inevitable process that affects the body of every person. For professional athletes, especially runners, that momentum comes quickly and surprisingly. Nothing terrible. The end of a great sports career is near, but Eliud still has so much to offer humanity and new generations of athletes.
Things happening like this is why fictional villains like Thanos and the Joker actually make sense over those superhero idealogies. No one seems to make these people accountable for casually hurling threats and ruining other people's lives.
I never thought kipchoge had anything to do with this, I only ever felt that he'd been unpleased when his world record fell but seeing that interview you can tell there isnt even a hint of badnesss in his heart, I'm really sorry hes been put through this and I think ill make an effort to watch the olympic marathon as a gesture of suport/good will
Why would his friends leave him. That makes no sense. If they all live in Kenya I would assume that is strange. They would all know the truth of the matter.
The facts about Kiptum’s driving accident may quell the upset about his very untimely death. The effort to set world records may have compromised his overall well-being. The elite runners I believe make the mistake of not fully recovering. Which can take months for the body to fully heal. Champions get pressured to continue to be good for business. Like Mohamed Ali boxing so after his fight with Frazier.
I am so sorry for him. Of course there would be some rivalry between them in the races but that's good and helps everyone push themselves. To think anything else is just silly and to threaten someone, just awful.
If he lost 90% of his friends, they were not good friends to begin with and he’s better off without them!! Horrible situation.
I might just be confused but why would the hate causes him to loose his friends? Did they loose trust in him or did he cut them off I’m confused
@@gbm8432 many believed the rumours, some started them. It's in the BBC article.
Could have just been very stupid people who believe anything they're told.
@@gbm8432 they all believed the lies and lost trust in him
Did they think some kind of Princess Diana situation had to do with this?
I'm Kenyan and I'm disgusted by how fellow Kenyans have behaved in this matter. I wish Kipchoge all the best.
Why did these idiots do that? Just for clicks? Or are they still superstitious, thinking Kipchoge did some kind of magic cursing? I am a german senior, running fan, googled that tragic accident. Pictures revealed very clearly what happend. At the same pages I saw the trolls beginning and countered them immediately. But with no impact. Yes, sorry, I see Kenya now with different eyes.
Freemasons and jews killed Kiptum. Kipchoge’s decline shows he feels vicarious guilt. He’s in the know.
@@sleepyjoe6269 That facehugger that jumped onto Kiptum's face right before the turn was trained by Eliud. He secretly fed this thing just for that one purpose: to get rid of Kiptum once and for all.
@@felixlingelbach2758 squirm more jew. Your tribe’s days in power are severely numbered.
@@felixlingelbach2758he died in a car crash I don’t know why that has to be so complicated
Eliud Kipchoge is not someone like Michael Jordan or Leo Messi; used to making crazy money and having people say all kinds of crazy stuff about him. He's huge for people who are into running but he's a humble guy and relatively low profile. I think this must be devastating for him. The internet can be such a cesspool.
Teleported from the paleolithic to internet... what do you expect ?
Pretty sure neither of those guys have been accused of murder before
Freemasons and jews killed Kiptum. Kipchoge’s decline shows he feels vicarious guilt. He’s in the know.
@@sleepyjoe6269huh?
@@unimoose jews killed Kiptum.
Eliud wouldn't ever be that petty. Nobody should ever be that petty. No wonder he did uncharacteristically bad in Tokyo.
Without sleep you cannot run well a marathon.
Freemasons and jews killed Kiptum. Kipchoge’s decline shows he feels vicarious guilt. He’s in the know.
@@sleepyjoe6269 And its people like You he's talking about. Keep your damn option to you own self.
@@JoshuaJohnson-uq6pq how many boosters are you on?
@@sleepyjoe6269 None, I'm just saying it's your opinions that are dragging other athletes down, while I would love to hear why you believe that. Right here is not the place.
Kiptum would be sad to see this
Freemasons and jews killed Kiptum. Kipchoge’s decline shows he feels vicarious guilt. He’s in the know.
@@sleepyjoe6269bro what kind of antisemite are you. That’s horrible.
@@sleepyjoe6269bro what 💀 why would they be after Kiptum
@@PythagorasFormula brah because he refused ro join their club like Kipchoge frfr no cap. If you’re a sports hero they will recruit you or disappear you.
@@sleepyjoe6269 bro 💀 it’s an organization, it wouldn’t be advantageous at all to take out kiptum bruh, don’t just believe everything you see online 💀
Man I had no clue this was going on. Truly awful that he was tied to Kiptum like that
He wasn't
Freemasons and jews (khazarim) killed Kiptum. Kipchoge is part of the club so in the know. Hence why he feels vicarious guilt.
He wasn't beuh
@@sleepyjoe6269clown
@@sleepyjoe6269😂😂😂😂😂 grow up
Kipchoge was the one that said if someone breaks his world record he’d be happy bc that’s how sport work. There is no way that he did this. Use common sense. Kipchoge isn’t crazy he’s kind and genuine. He’s a role model and wouldn’t go around killing people bc he’s not that type of person
100%agree, he knew someone else would probably break the record, he's just made it easier for them. He just wants everyone to run. I can't believe people would think he had something to do with it. Some people are just trash.
I felt when his record went down he was a bit annoyed because he didn't publicly congratulate him and he was meanwhile posting all sorts of sponsorship things on his social media, not for a second did I think he had any malice towards kiptum though, and it's absolutely terrible that people actually made these baseless accusations and threats, total scum - I hope Kipchoge gets some peace and makes a good comeback at the Olympics
Freemasons and jews (khazarim) killed Kiptum. Kipchoge is part of the club so in the know. Hence why he feels vicarious guilt.
@@sleepyjoe6269 You are spamming this in every comment. Get a life and keep your ridiculous conspiracy peddling to yourself.
@@Dispariabooks nice projection, the worshipful master uses you however he likes
Absolutely ridiculous! People making online threats need to face consequences!
Exactly...on line threats, ...inept immoral people who are hiding behind a monitor so they don't have to face any consequences. If they had any moral character they'd know Kipchoge respected anyone he raced against.
Real
Wrong.
Yes, they need to find out if these threats are from trolls or if they could be serious threats.
@@jaycue9606 The same trolls who took down this post yesterday... "Exactly...on line threats, ...inept immoral people who are hiding behind a monitor so they don't have to face any consequences. If they had any moral character they'd know Kipchoge respected anyone he raced against."
I feel so bad for Kipchoge, and Kiptum’s death was so tragic. This is horrible
Freemasons and jews killed Kiptum. Kipchoge’s decline shows he feels vicarious guilt. He’s in the know.
@@sleepyjoe6269 Since you're making such bold claims, I am sure you can support them with reliable sources. Would you care to share them, green frog?
@@sleepyjoe6269 your just making this sh!t up. Ur trolling and this is not the issue to troll about bc this is so horrible.
@@BeFr-vp7othe might be on to somthing.. just might
This is absolutely disgusting. As if the loss of Kiptum in such tragic circumstances wasn't horrific enough, to think that one of the finest athletes in the history of the sport is having his life and family threatened is just dreadful. Sometimes, I despair of some sections of social media.
Freemasons and jews (khazarim) killed Kiptum. Kipchoge is part of the club so in the know. Hence why he feels vicarious guilt.
I had no idea, thank you for reporting on this. How disgusting.
Social media networks need to do better when enforcing their rules on non-English content.
Freemasons and jews (khazarim) killed Kiptum. Kipchoge is part of the club so in the know. Hence why he feels vicarious guilt.
also on English content.
The Kenyan authorities must take steps to restore this great African hero asap 🙏🏾
Nope, we still hold the same views. There are so many people in Eldoret (even his camp in Kaptagat) better than him, but because he gate keeps who gets to compete internationally, the world thinks he's the best. Saying this as someone who lives in Kaptagat.
We won't allow it kelvin kiptum was killed together with his coach if they can't give us kenyans justice and his family too then kipchoge doesn't deserve the justice either, kelvin kiptums dad insisted his son was killed but authorities ignored so no justice until we know what happened to kiptum
@@GideonKiprotich665exactly 💯 and he was very bitter with kelvin kiptum
@@KeruboOnkobaHow exactly was he bitter? He's said on multiple occasions he'd be happy for the guy that might break his record because that is how sports work. He's also congratulated and praised kiptum on multiple occasions.
In most of recent history, when shocking and unexpected events happen, people often grasp at conspiracy theories because they offer them some sort of structure around events that seem totally uncontrollable or unfathomable. And much too often, people cannot face their grief and would rather run with the conspiracy theory, rather than face the fact that often life is unpredictable and bad things happen to people who do not deserve it.
I fear Kipchoge is at the receiving end of people who cannot reconcile their grief and are looking for somewhere to aim it.
Freemasons and jews killed Kiptum. Kipchoge’s decline shows he feels vicarious guilt. He’s in the know.
@@sleepyjoe6269stop putting out such crap.
@@joejoejoe4577 squirm jew
@@joejoejoe4577 stop seething jew
@@joejoejoe4577 seethe harder jew
This is really the worst side of the internet and of humans.
Incredibly sad.
This is why sometimes I hate social-media/internet culture.
What is wrong with people?
People have sadly always been like this. However they have become more bold and brazen about it, and the consequences are far more reaching. It used to be confined to a small community, but now you hold those bs accusations against you for the rest of your life now.
@@troybaxter you are absolutely right!
And by use of the internet and social media platforms, bubbles of trolls and mobbers can connect themselves and literally swarm anyone that sticks their head out/ gets media exposure and mobb him from all over the world. And sadly the anonymity of the internet protects them and gives them confidence they will never be held accountable for their accusations, they would never otherwise utter in a real life situation.
Internet culture? Remember than in Kenyan culture witchcrafts is still a thing
The internet has allowed people to become more brazen and less accountable.
The laws need to catch up with technology.
no
Wow. The internet has no chill
I see you're new here
Freemasons and jews (khazarim) killed Kiptum. Kipchoge is part of the club so in the know. Hence why he feels vicarious guilt.
@@sleepyjoe6269what? Evidence please.
Absolutely sickening that people are doing this to such a beautiful human like Kipchoge. This makes my blood boil. This human is the most humble and wise athlete alive today. He does not deserve this.
Couldn't have said it better. A man who deliberately seeks out a simple life because he knows how much that's worth, the target of typically thoughtless but also potentially deadly internet falsehoods. This will be seen as the crime it should be one day soon
Hehe 🤣 beautiful what we are Kenyans we know him more than outsiders,he chooses those who competes internationally and never wants those who are best than him to compete, kelvin kiptum was tough one kipchoge couldn't control anything to do with him because kelvin kiptum legs were talking and Kenyans loved him and kipchoge was very bitter about it
@@KeruboOnkoba have seen you propagating this agenda about Kipchoge in several comments, am also a Kenyan and if you are a Christian, hope you know that you will have account for this witness on judgement day too.
Kipchoge is so nice. I bet these trolls were harder for him than most online...
There were a few trolls alleging Kiptum was murdered within hours of the news breaking. On one of the Facebook groups I am in, one troll started claiming that Kipchoge was behind it the day it broke. The last post I saw had the heading, "finally Kipchoge will be arrested". This was just a day or two before Tokyo. I suspect the number of complaints to the administrator of the group eventually led to the troll being removed. One comment on one of these posts stands out to me. In some parts of Africa, although not just in that continent, the belief in magic and witchdoctors is strong. And this is what Kipchoge is being accused of, hiring a witchdoctor to put a curse on Kiptum. These trolls "backed up" their claims by saying Kipchoge didn't acknowledge Kiptum's world record, or at least not effusively enough for their liking. There were also allegations that 3 men supposedly turned up at Kiptum's home just before the tragedy. None of this is true of course. From what I have read, Kiptum ran a 40+ km long run that morning and then decided to drive home in the evening. In Australia there are signs all along our regional roads and highways about drowsy drivers dying. Micro sleeps, of just a few seconds, can end in tragedy, which is the most likely cause of the accident that killed Kiptum and his coach, not Kipchoge or a witchdoctor's spells. These accusations are just compounding the tragedy for everyone who is a fan of the sport. Thanks for the video.
Three men did show up but they were spoken too. Was attached to his old chinese sponsorship
@@asadalbrawhether that is the case or not, I'm only suggesting that the troll who made that allegation claimed they were threatening Kiptum and his family and that it was part of the so-called murder plot. It's irrelevant really.
@@htmonaro1969 i get that! Im only addig to your piece
That completely makes sense, fully explains how he couldn't perform as well and how he only explained it as "a bad day", he didn't want to explain it.
Kipchoge likes giving excuses when he looses,he never congratulates the winner nor recognize the winner he looks for centre of attention we are Kenyans we know him and he was bitter with kelvin kiptum everyone in Kenya knew in Olympic games yes Kenya will win marathon gold but not him may kelvin kiptum continue haunting those who killed him
If he liked giving excuses, he would've done that right after the race. Instead, he chose to be humble and explain it as a bad day
@@magicboy382 he explained what hehe 😂 please we are Kenyans we know kipchoge more than you that explanation was a lie he never accepts defeat that's how we know him ipity outsiders who thinks they know him more than us
@KeruboOnkoba I accept the fact that you may know more than me as a Kenyan but if a certain person receives death threats for something its well known he couldn't possibly do right before a major marathon you don't have to be a Kenyan to understand it probably affected his performance.
I hate to say this, but having just gotten back from a month spent in Kenya, you have to understand that beliefs and customs are VERY different in Kenya than in the Western world. We’re talking about a place where an overwhelming amount of population still believes in witchcraft and that one can have a curse placed on them. I heard comments 3 or 4 times on how Kip placed a curse on Kiptum. People are very wary of things they do not understand and cannot explain, and to try to explain anything differently..they think you are crazy.
Thank you for highlighting this. I hope Kipchoge finds peace
If Eliud is THAT traumatized, it will last forever, unless he treats it IMMEDIATELY. If not, his career is OVER! And it's not even his fault!
Can’t treat death threats
@@BlONIC the law and the police can
@@savagepro9060but they won't because of corruption
That's a bit dramatic. He has always advised patience in running and every aspect of life. I'm sure he will also have patience in turning this situation around. God bless
He needs to move out of Kenya
The power of superstition is that people confuse the "convenient" explanation for the truth.
As you said, Kipchoge was so excited for Kiptum, saying he might be the first to break 2 hours under legal conditions. That he really looked forward to where Kiptum was going to take the sport and he was looking forward to handing off the reins to him. It's hearbreaking that people would suggest such a thing of one the humblest men in the world.
He was never excited about kelvin kiptum I don't understand why outsiders think they know more than us kenyans, the reason Kenyans were insulting kipchoge is because we knew he never felt good when kelvin kiptum broke the world record,he never even congratulated him and always posted negative things after the record went,but outsiders will think he was good
That's crazy. The day Kiptum died the idea of Kipchoge having something to do with it came to my mind, but as a silly daydream for one second, just as you might daydream about what if elefants are from mars. And now I hear that there are people who really BELIEVE this.
I am Ghanaian and very big fun of Eliud. I have no idea why some Kenyans could even do such a thing to their national hero. Please stop this you Kenyans who are doing this.
Kelvin Kiptum died at the age of 24 in a car crash, just as the great and much loved Stave Prefontaine did. Nobody accused Lasse
Kelvin kiptum used to regard Kipchoge with respect. It is clear from his interview after he won london marathon and also after he broke Kipchoge record at Chicago. He would have hated to see people doing that to Kipchoge who he considered as role model.
The internet has become a cesspool. It's a really cautionary tale, just goes to show that no one is safe anymore and your reputation can be destroyed over nothing literally.
It’s not that there’s overwhelming evidence that Kipchoge was not involved…there is NO evidence that he was involved. The former implies that there was some evidence that might tie him to it. There is no evidence or defensible logic. None whatsoever. Important distinction.
That won't stop idiots like "sleepyjoe6929" from coming up with "muh secret Kenyan Jew Kipchoge killed Kiptum" conspiracies.
Thank you for using your channel to try to help right these wrongs.
Please keep the info coming. I knew nothing about these accusations.
This video deserved the main chanel.
This is just disgusting.
Thanks TRP for talking about this.
Merci d'avoir fait la lumière sur cette affaire. Même si des personnes avaient des doutes au sujet du décès de Kiptun, de là à proférer des menages sur Eliud, il y a un grand pas. C'est inadmissible de faire cela
This is unbelievably upsetting. Why do people make negative situations even more negative? I almost can't believe this stuff, people are cruel when they fail to reflect.
Some people are fueled by negativity.
It's a tale as old as time. When you are at the top, people lesser than and jealous of you will use underhanded tactics to take you down.
Stuff like this is why I will never believe in the lie that we can make "Heaven on Earth". People are too cruel and vindictive for such a utopia to exist on this planet.
The whole story is troublesome...
From the tragedy with Kiptum to accusations towards Kipchoge...
If his country won’t support him, it may be time for Kipchoge to relocate. I’m sure many countries would be happy to welcome such a hero.
This is just horrible and the people who did this should be ashamed. Kipchoge wouldn't hurt a fly so I have no clue why they did this. This also explains the sub-par performance at the Tokyo Marathon and I hope he can do better at the olympics.
Heartbreaking on so many levels
Watching you from Thailand. You are ny hero and my inspiration.Be strong.. LOVE YOU!!
This breaks my heart hearing about this.
Eliud is a true champion, a gentleman. Keep going, Eliud!
Great respect for Kipchoge, we're with you man! humble and professional athlete and an epic example for the next generations
Kiptum would be appalled by this. I lost my father to a careless driver last year, essentially all for the sake of saving a few fleeting moments on their commute. It's a painful reality losing someone so suddenly and unnaturally but blaming others and spreading hate is not the path to healing, and it certainly doesn't honour the memory of those we've lost. The people spreading these rumours should be disgusted with themselves.
This is disgusting wow! People can be so cruel
I hope TRP removes the trolls from this channel some also appeared here immediately after this unfortunate tragedy but thankfully did not return.
The Kenyan people have disappointed us. How can they do this to Kipchoge?
This a sad true and real consequence of stupid fake news some criminals spread on social media. I wish him strenght to endure this and go back to his routine in peace. Thanks for this video. Stay Strong K.
Now this, this breaks my heart.
Jesus. They were friendly rivals---Kipchoge is a class act who's openly mourned the loss of his younger compatriot & chief competitor for months...I can only imagine what the story around Pre's death would look like if the internet & social media were around in the '70s
I had read the constant low IQ comments but I was hoping he had a good system to not let online trolls get to him, sucks that they did. If I was famous I would never read the comments, anonymity on the internet has losers thinking they are something special.
Im so sorry that peoples love for gossip and scandal has impacted him in this way. He has always seemed like a kind and generous person who has only wanted to inspire others. I believe in him. I believe he will overcome this through the strength of his spirit and continue to inspire others. ❤
The species of people are doing bad when this damage can be done to a legend. Imagine the average citizen.
What a horrible situation, much love for kipchoge and kiptum❤
Man it’s so sad how delulu people are. To think Kichoge took apart in Kelvin’s death with clear not no evidence that he didn’t do anything related to Kelvin’s death is so stupid. We all knew at some point in time the 2 hour barrier would be broken in the marathon, either by Kipchoge or another athlete and Kichoge knew this himself as well. Kipchoge wished the best for all athletes that are faster than him on days that he struggles and wishes the best for those who are slower than him and those who look up to him. I wish all the best for Kichoge and his family and kids and hope they stay safe and no harm is made to any of them. He will always have my support. ❤
i had no idea this was going down - i can't believe people would take this already devastating tragic event and make it more horrible.
This makes me so, so sad.
All the best to Eliud Kipchoge. From a supporter in UK.
several years ago I had the pleasure of watching EK break the world record in Berlin from in front of the Adlon Kempinski just short of the Brandenberg Tor. he has always been an inspiration for all who aspire to just be better; as runners and as caring individuals. I have cheered for him from near and afar I respect him for his decency and athleticism.
Censorship is a daft idea. Who censors the censors? Who is to say what's right or wrong. Naive.
I love marathon, I enjoyed watching Kipchoge break records and setting new standards. All this came about the time Kiptum broke his record and he kept quiet for a loooong time waiting for "Ratification" of Kiptum's record. Unfortunately, that sparked negativity from fans. The saddest part that most people do not know is that most marathon teams/camps are always competing, but not in a healthy way. Personally, I think Kipchoge had a hard time accepting that his record had been broken and that by itself lay way for trolling and the expectations from the local community that he, being a "mentor/role model" for many upcoming athletes, should have been "the first" in congratulating Kiptum. It's sad that it has all come to this.
This video meant so much to me. I have been trying to break sub 40
The notion that Eliud Kipchoge would have benefited from Kiptum’s death is wrong as well as vile.
A Kipchoge-Kiptum match-up would have been the most exciting contest in athletics since Coe vs Ovett.
Even if Kelvin Kelvin Kiptum had won, Eliud would have been a winner too because of the excitement and publicity that would have been attracted into the sport of distance running, and specifically into Kenyan running.
I sincerely hope that Eliud is able to deal with this awful situation like the champion and fine human being that he is. I hope the 2024 Olympic marathon is a glorious success whoever wins it, and that the Olympic movement can overcome, just as we overcame tragedies such as the terrorist attack at the 1972 Munich Olympics.
And may Kelvin rest in peace.
Harambe.
Absolutely awful!!! I feel so bad for him, it's not only cruel but it will definitely affect him for the Olympics.
I was going to write that the internet/smart phone/social media era has ruined society. But let’s be honest, humans have been doing that long before the internet. However, we now have a wider platform, which when abused can be devastating. More accountability needs to happen both for individuals and social media providers.
Ridiculous that such a humble and inspiring athlete, along with his family, have had to go through this. I truly hope Kipchoge realises that more people are on his side than those cowards who hide behind keyboards😢.
Since the internet came into existence it has been the avenue for all kinds of junk, threats,insults, theft, scams, and all kinds of evil. Parents need to teach their kids that you can't trust most of what you se or read. There is no way to police the web. it is too invasive and pervasive. We need to police ourselves and our contacts. There was nothing I looked forward to more than the marathon duel between Kipchoge and Kiptum. Stay safe and be loved.
Unbelievable 😢
seen documentary about him some time ago - he is such nice man! how is it even possible to accuse him?! wish him to get gold medal despite all of this mess!
This is truly horrible for Eliud and his family
His friends know him better than any of us
How awful, poor man
So sad and disgusting. Maybe he should have made a clear and friendly statement praising Kiptum's exceptional abilities (or ensure it had the expected impact if he did). This could have been done since London 2023 where Kipchoge gave the starter. This would have stopped social medias to fuel antipathy and rivaltry. I hope everything will go right for him and he may prepare the olympics with serenity.
I always thought Kiptum dying in a random car crash was a little suspicious, but Kipchoge being involved is absolutely ridiculous.
Thousands of people die in crashes. When your numbers up...Just because they're well known ( within a certain group)doesn't mean there is a conspiracy of some sort. That's delusional paranoia.
Why? People die in car crashes all the time and there's nothing about being a celebrity that protects you from that. It would honestly be suspicious if famous people never died in car crashes
Why did you think it was suspicious?
@@Fourevrlearning He was on track to be the next greatest of all time and you know people will be jealous and hate. And are there more details of the crash? Was he drunk and or speeding? Usually when people die in car crashes they don't just lose control of a vehicle randomly while going the speed limit.
I had no idea this was happening.
What a tragedy on so many levels.
Deplorable and indefensible.
We love you!!
Kiopchoge is an extraordinary human being and a great champion. One of the best long-distance runners ever. It is sad when a person has a hard time accepting the laws of biology, physiology and anatomy. Aging is an inevitable process that affects the body of every person. For professional athletes, especially runners, that momentum comes quickly and surprisingly. Nothing terrible. The end of a great sports career is near, but Eliud still has so much to offer humanity and new generations of athletes.
Horrific.
So far Kiptum lost control in his car. That’s it, no more. Very tragic, but NOTHING TO DO WITH ELIUD!,!,
That's messed up to involve kipchoge in kelvins death.
Well destroying his psyche, his training, and not sleeping for 3 days prior to Tokyo explains his performance. Hang in there Eliud!!
Wow, it is total bullshit that eliud has to deal with this, especially his family i hope he can find peace
Things happening like this is why fictional villains like Thanos and the Joker actually make sense over those superhero idealogies. No one seems to make these people accountable for casually hurling threats and ruining other people's lives.
I would say my opinion... but the entire running world would be against me. 😬
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I never thought kipchoge had anything to do with this, I only ever felt that he'd been unpleased when his world record fell but seeing that interview you can tell there isnt even a hint of badnesss in his heart, I'm really sorry hes been put through this and I think ill make an effort to watch the olympic marathon as a gesture of suport/good will
Unbelievable !!!!
My research shows that no social media platforms are really interested in policing but only drama, clicks and advertising money.
Why would his friends leave him. That makes no sense. If they all live in Kenya I would assume that is strange. They would all know the truth of the matter.
Eliud Kipchoge is a wonderful human being and very special person.
People are so disappointing anymore. It can cause a person to withdraw from society all together.
Keep strong our legend,God will fight for you.
I agree that an acceptable standard of behaviour is needed online. Horrible for Eliud in what was anyway a tragedy
What! Dayum
The facts about Kiptum’s driving accident may quell the upset about his very untimely death. The effort to set world records may have compromised his overall well-being. The elite runners I believe make the mistake of not fully recovering. Which can take months for the body to fully heal. Champions get pressured to continue to be good for business. Like Mohamed Ali boxing so after his fight with Frazier.
I am so sorry for him. Of course there would be some rivalry between them in the races but that's good and helps everyone push themselves. To think anything else is just silly and to threaten someone, just awful.
I’m just learning about Kiptum!!!!!!!!! I’m shocked!!!!!!!!! 😢😢😢😢😢
People really can be disgusting. Using this tragedy to tear down another man who didn't have anything to with what happened.
Very shameful from the people of Kenya to turn against one of his heroes in such a manner...