Used electric cars. The FIVE golden buying rules | Electrifying
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Buying a used car can be stressful - even more so if you are making the exciting move to electric for the first time. After all, it’s a big investment and you don’t want to get it wrong!
So in this video I’m going to tell you the FIVE golden rules that make buying a used electric car a lot easier!
But not all of us have the expertise - or let's face it, the desire - to kick tyres and do days of research. So most of us rely on the peace of mind which comes when you buy a car from a trusted source, like Spoticar.
But there are still some checks you can do and questions to ask the seller - and yourself - before you buy your first electric car.
Electric cars are easy to drive and simple to live with, but choosing the right one can be trickier than you might imagine.
There is a whole new set of acronyms and vocabulary to get your head around. For example, it’s important to know your kWh from your kW and understand what the ‘real world’ range of your car will be.
You’ll soon pick it up and make sense of it but make sure you don’t get bamboozled by doing a bit of research first.
Now we’d obviously suggest you use the Electrifying.com website - where we have loads of handy explainers, along with a dictionary that helps you get to grips with those news terms! But don’t be afraid to ask questions when you are talking to sales staff at the Spoticar retailer , or even other owners you see in car parks or online groups. They can be a mine of information.
They should be happy to help and you won’t look stupid. Unless you are wearing a silly hat or something.
Join Nicola as she reveals our top five golden rules for buying a used electric car.
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Don’t like this. You’re supposed to be a proper consumer channel, not some low-rent product placers. Not impressed.
(And yes, I am intending to buy a used EV. But not a Stellantis one, and not from Spoticar.)
Buy a kia e Niro that's 4 to 5 years old under 60 K Miles of experience, so you have for 2 to 3 extra factory warranty!
The battery is spot on! Get the Executive with 64KWh, like mine! ❤ 2020 and after, they have 11 KWh at home charging and can connect to your smartphone!
Hmm, yeah this is a great car topic to cover but I couldn't help twitching whenever Spoticar was mashed into a sentence like some badly written SEO... By all means get sponsors, I want this channel to flourish, but mention sponsors explicitly up front and then don't shove it into the script repeatedly. By making a normal video about buying tips, then ending with a sponsor segment, you already link the viewer's mind to that brand. You don't need to mention them within the actual video.
Agree totally. Unsubscribed as a result of this 8 minute advert. Pay You Tube £13 a month for ad free content and then this pops up. Bad.
@garson51
I did say that also.... They are making real stupid content.
Nicola making the video editors work overtime with all her videos lately
My beloved Renault Zoe is a great little car that gives me 175 miles per full battery. She’s a hoot to drive, is capable of accelerating fast if required, feels great on a motorway and it’s certainly the best car I’ve ever driven.
I have a Zoe and the experience is the same. Love it. Would never go back to petrol/diesel
No more Red Bull for you, Nicola !😁
Don't forget `budget`. Most important thing of all. I bought an E-208 because it was cheap and had all the updates and services already done... including new tyres which it didn't need!
200-odd mile range is enough for my bladder! Now wouldn't be my choice if I were buying today, but in 3 years I've never wished for more performance, more space. Would want a heated steering wheel though, and heated seats as it is much kinder than air con in winter!
Agree and the constant mention of a certain second hand car dealer - it was just a long advert with only a bit of useful information
If it would not be your choice now, what would be? I ask simply because an e208 is on my list of "possibles" but I have no previous experience of electric cars.
With the tyre repair/mobility kit check for expiration dates! True for any car, but worth knowing.
Wow these cars so great, this makes me want to go out and buy a lovely stellantis group car.
Love it when Nicola does videos on her own - feel like she is held back when other presenters are included 😂
@electrifying These battery checks. Qualitative? Quantitative? To what degree and resolution are these tests being performed? Is the read-out a three or 4 page report on cell health coupled with previous owners driving habits such as # of 0-100 sprints and/or charging habits and how it compares with the battery chemistry in question vs. manufacturer recommendations? Stuff like that. OR Do you get a big green check mark, a happy face, and a message saying, "Everything is awesome! You should be good for 75,000 km." I would like to hear from people who have used battery checks in their decision making process in the past to know how well it worked out for them. (how accurate the system is)
Yes gives me a headache, is this for adults or children's tv?
Channels been getting a bit childish recently and I’ve nearly unsubscribed a few times…just done it now.
Annoying now
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Lovely presentation. So many checks for an EV😱. Would be nice if sharing battery health status was more common, comprehensive and transparent for all current EVs on the market. I think that is the key golden rule I'm missing.
Many of the traditional car sale sites are rubbish when it comes to searching for an EV - for example, many don't allow you to select a battery size or 'engine' power option on a specific car model.
Here's an acronym that needs a massive upgrade, WLTP....this test and all previous tests have been completely out of touch with what any vehicle could ever wish to achieve, why can't they simply drive at 30, 50,and 70mph/kmh and tell us then what range we'll get at each driven speed, we can work the rest out, fed up with listening to claimed range
I recently read that second hand evs for sale in the States now come with a battery health certificate and that these have greatly increased sales of second hand evs. FYI these videos are becoming very childish casting doubt about the reliability and accuracy of your message which is a shame.
Speak for yourself! The fun is great. 👍
Most of the advice here applies to any car really. I would avoid any EV that has always been charged with fast public chargers rather than home chargers which means there is more battery degradation. I would also look at its range with how much charge it is showing on the dash,. If the range is quite low with 80% charge it means the car has been driven fast and charged very frequently and therefore more battery degradation.
Yes. It's worth looking as what the Guess-o-meter (GOM) says the range is at 80%.. but only just worth it. If you drive your car at a steady 30mph for twenty minutes, the GOM will be very optimistic, if you drive it at 75 and with serious braking it can make it look massively worse. Checking the GOM after your test drive will be a bit more useful. Some models are much more influenced by recent driving style than others.
Your comment to "avoid any EV that has always been charged with fast public chargers" (though, I presume you mean DC 'rapid' chargers) is not necessarily accurate.
For example, on the Nissan Leaf Facebook group, there are many owners - taxi drivers and driver training users - who have over 100,000 miles on their cars yet have 'above average' battery State of Health even though they have rapid-charged often multiple times per day.
Conversely, there are owners who have 99% home charged, yet the S.o.H. on their batteries is very poor, considering the lower mileages covered.
Then, there's this week's FC upload, where Bobby talks to chauffeur using a Tesla Model S that achieved 666,000km (nearly 420,000 miles) before his battery threw up an error - and he admits to multiple rapid charges per days.
So, yes, you're absolutely right to recommend buyers to check these things, but there are definitely some high mileage / high rapid-charged EVs out there that are perfectly usable.
Hey my Hyundai is now 5 years old and drives also charges exactly the same as the day I bought it… no loss of miles, I don’t do fast charging, just 7kw home or 2.5kw 3pin , nice n steady charge times… also knowing what I know now, not only would I stay well clear of the brand of home charging I went for..! I would just have a weatherproof socket outside and granny charging overnight.. 🤔
I've had my 2021 Kona Electric from new and it's been wonderful. The best I've ever got was 314 miles of mixed summer driving but even in the winter I've managed 300 with careful driving. All without a heat pump!
I have only charged in public about 10 times if that, ways use my home 7KW charger and my range has always been consistent over the years.
Do you have the Classic Ioniq 28 KWh or 38 KWh or the Kona 39 / 64 KWh? Both are great EV!
@@yingmustang67 mines the 28Kwh Ioniq…. at the time it was same price as an ICE equivalent with a Korean battery…. before the tremendous price hike … LOL 😊
@patrickh7368
Mine first EV, premium version, and Marine Blu colour 28 KWh. Such a great EV!
@@yingmustang67 yes, reviewers say how good new ones are achieving 3.5m/KWh I have had 6.2m/KWh on more times than one… car ai awards me a gold ⭐️…😊
Liked and commented for the hustle 👍🏻👍🏻😀
Thanks, lots of info mixed with good fun.
My nr. 1 golden rule to buy a 2nd hand EV is . . . . . . . It HAS to have an LFP battery, and NOT NMC.
The difference? 10.000 charging cycles or 2.000.
Whilst I don't disagree that an LFP battery pack should be able to sustain more charging cycles than a regular Lithium Ion NMC pack, I feel your statement could cause doubts in potential buyer's minds that an NMC pack EV is to be avoided.
For clarity, a 'cycle' is a full charge and full discharge.
So, in, for example, a 200 mile-per-charge Corsa-e, a single 'cycle' would equate to a 200 mile distance travelled.
Therefore, 2000 'cycles' on its battery pack equates to 200 x 2000 = 400,000 miles which is WAY more mileage than 99.9% of owners would consider keeping their car for.
That would be a perfectly usable EV for someone to own.
That clinches it. Nicola has multi-personality syndrome…!?! Well… I'm smitten with all of them.
Very well made video
As the owner of a second-hand Nissan Leaf I can say I did my homework. :-)
Very silly but it will be helpful for the target audience.
Good advice 👍🏻
I see one Nicola, I click. I see three Nicola, I like. I see five Nicola, i subscribe ❤
I think I want a Nicola with my next car 🥰
best comment ive just read below, so will repeat it CHILDISH
i would also say a heat pump for keeping the range in winter! Great video
Brilliant.
The main reason for buying an EV would be the ‘automatic transmission’ is usually bulletproof, it being accomplished without shifting gears, friction plates, hydraulic control units, impellers and so on. A spinning magnetic field that pressing the accelerator, makes spin faster, and the rotor ( the rotating bit in the motor) tries harder to catch up. Much better. The main let-down is that the fossil-fuel giants in the gas & oil industry, were able to cripple sales just by one single campaign of fossil-fuel price rises, indirectly but inevitably inflating electricity energy costs. My main gripe with EVs is their lack of surplus heat - think cold day walking in the hills, returning to a cold car in the middle of a cold car park. Even a heat pump system doesn’t really fix this, so for our northern UK climate, I had to get a hybrid.
But, as I have done that, our grown offspring don’t have to. So they could choose an electric car, except truly the problems are the same as every other used car - mileage is so commonly reduced it is laughable. Mile-blockers, clockers, replacing the odometer, an app to ‘correct’ the mileage, all of this is trashing consumer rights. There must be a way ti certifiably know if a car has had its computer data messed with. Surely it’s time for a proper database of car mileages? We have one for what car is insured and what is not, and that is relied on for prosecutions by police, so there’s no reason we couldn’t have this for car mileages, if the computers were hardened against hacking. Does not need to be un-hackable, just able to make a record of the tampering happening. Our market in the UK is awash with great big fibs and we all know it…one more thing…
…MOTs. The other great big fibs. Almost 3/4 of the vehicles I have bought used, have had a failure I subsequently found, ought to have prevented an MOT pass at the time the dealer/vendor is purporting it was passed. These, were proper MOT stations, with properly-certified mechanics passing these cars. Seized brake caliper sliders for example, really hammer-out seized, apparently were passed just a couple months earlier, when the handbrake could never have worked at that time. In fact, faulty handbrakes, turn up quite a lot in my dozen or so cars bought used in the UK. But there is NO COMEBACK and so no steps realistically that could be taken. The people passing these cars, often have little associated tricks, like putting on the odd ‘token’ new part to imply proper maintenance etc. And fake claims like ‘one owner’ that turn out to mean one previous owner. It goes on and on.
Your points I find valid, but there’s a whole lot more wrong with the car market left unsaid - the issues are fundamental I am afraid.
Infact many electric cars have a huge heating advantage in that you can preheat from an app or schedule. So you can return to a warm car after a walk or get in a defrosted and warm one in the morning.
GDPR means you shouldn’t be given any identifiable details of previous owners but you should be able to find out if it was owned privately or by a business. Also, you should ask if the car has been used for private hire or Uber.
It's simple buy one with the biggest battery you can afford, hyundai kona 64klw battery I went for , that was in my price bracket.
Please tell us the facts and advice without the children’s tv presentation
Here we go again. Every car is a STELLANTIS product. For reasons of transparency, please explain your relationship with STELLANTIS.
Also lots of plugs for spotecar. No mention it is a ‘sponsored video’ which it is undoubtedly is.
@@CosyPthere is a mention in the description now at least. I don't believe it's good enough to be above board though
5 rules for buying an EV:
1. Don't
2. Don't
3. Don't
4. Don't
5. Don't
@@alphaomega5721Do you love the smell of diesel in the morning?
Agree, real world range is crucial, since EPA is not accurate. Edmunds, InsideEVs, Out of spec all do 70 mph range tests
what you haven't mentioned is range in cold weather, mine has a range of 193 miles, but in the winter I was getting 131 miles on a full charge, now in april and warmer weather it is 153 miles on a full charge, but the last 20% takes forever
Naughty Nice Nicola!❤🥰
Five versions of Nicola Hume ? 😂
So you can relax it’s going to last 8 years🤪 my daily drive is 19 years old on 108000.00 miles and still going strong
The 8 years is the *warranty* not it's lifespan. It won't suddenly stop working at 8 years and one day old......
@@Brian-om2hhI bet his engine wasn’t given an 8 year warranty.
I wonder how many cam belts he has got through. (Should have had at least,east 3) and the attendant cost of changing them. How many air filters has he bought? How many oil filters? How many plugs? How many gaskets? How many pints of oil. How much has he paid to have the oil disposed of? How many brake pads / discs? How much anti freeze? Still glad to know it’s “still going strong. And as it is 19 years old, it’s still chugging out copious amounts carcinogenic and lung destroying emissions. Strange, all these anti EV Luddite types all seem to drive 15 years or older cars.
That’s great! Feel free to reach out.
Battery state of health in used EVs is what interests me before buying one. There is no way I could afford a new EV but Prices of used EVs are looking quite good at the moment but how do you know if the battery is ok? Nicola says you can check the state of health in the cars electronic menu but can you ? I have been looking at lots of used EV adverts but none tells you the battery state of health. Is this something easily accesible or are we talking asking the dealer if we can plug a reader into the OBD port which may not go down well . Just saying that the battery is possibly guaranteed for maybe up to 8 years is not reassuring because the life of an ICE vehicle is usually well beyond this. For the used car buyer on a budget who maybe has in the past bought a 3/4 year old car and kept it 3/4 years who is going to want to buy his 6/8 year old electric car when it is time to change? I am in no way an EV hater a close relative has one and it a pleasure to be driven in just concerned about the hype. I dont think this a serious channel it is just about marketing
Wow that was annoying
I don't want a car. I want to motorboat.
Brrruummmbleblbebler
I would very much recommend that anyone seriously considering buying a used EV go to EV specialist. You will get properly informed impartial advice as to what you could buy for your needs and budget. IMHO they will also not persuade you to buy an EV if this is not appropriate to your requirements. Also no bulls..t from EV ignorant sales people. If you are looking for an EV out of warranty the EV specialist’s will have the best stock as they know what they are buying and what to check out.
Buy from a company that has lots of years of experience making EVs.
Buy a car with an LFP battery so that you can use the whole battery.
If you cannot charge at home, consider a hybrid instead.
If you want to tow, make sure the EV is capable and that a towbar is affordable.
Pre-paid service packs Nicola speaks of I believe are generally only available with new cars.
Get in and out of any intended purchase ten times to make sure it is easy for you to do. Many low slung cars require horrid contortion and head banging to get in.
Buy a hatch over a sedan as it is more flexible.
Avoid Stelantis as they underperform with helping original owners so second owners will struggle more.
Soooo basically the same checks you do with ANY car then 🤭🤭 (apart from microphone....sorry, charging cable)
With EV technology incorporating VTG we can't rely on the odometer to estimate the number of charge cycles, I wouldn't buy a used EV without an 'independent battery health check'.
Rule No 1. Dont bother. Rule No 2. This channel is not independent
Nicola is too dang funny. We must protect her at all costs.
Nicola has just gone from funny to annoying.
This is a fairly serious subject. It would have been better to have had the reassurance of Ginny this time.
Just buy a petrol version much cheaper and more reliable in the long run and far better range Happy Days 😡😡😡
Rule one. Don't.
Rules two to five. Don't forget rule one. EVe are barely past the level of 1950s ICE, and the figures show poor relabillity and high maintenance costs. Just a silly noisy ad!
Had a look on Spoticar, no EVs with leather seats, rip dust mite allergy sufferers.
"64% of people are worrying... unnecessarily, about whether their battery will last..." 2:20
Sorry. This just isn't good enough. Gaslighting people who worry about a car's battery is irresponsible because this is a valid concern.
Firstly, you're talking to secondhand buyers here.. Second-hand EVs under £10k are half of them some variation on a Nissan Leaf and it's well known that this model suffers from very significant battery degradation in some cases and that in general degradation is common if they've been driven harder.
And second, if you buy a high mileage car and then continue to do high mileage (like I've done) you'll end up back on the leading edge.. So my BMW i3 is coming up to 120,000 miles. The battery's doing ok but it's not easy now to know what the future holds for it - to all intents and purposes there are none for sale at a higher mileage than that so its value is obviously compromised.
quarter of the way in... so far complete rubbish and not a golden rule... golden shower more like
This is just an advert for Stellantis!
Rule#1
Don't buy one.😅
I couldn’t watch beyond 2 minutes….
Uve just lost a subscriber
Very sorry Nicola - I think this is bullshit.
Is Nicola on drugs again?
NO car is an "INVESTMENT"!!! Particularly an EV, is your IPhone an investment? Values of even Tesla go down by 50% in the FIRST year... NOBODY want's used like your phone!
Please don't try to be funny Nicola... Its just annoying.
Propaganda
Don’t go near a used EV, the likely hood of being able to sell it on we be almost impossible to
Why would you risk your hard earned on a used EV, you may as well throw it down the drain
On what evidence do you base this comment? I have done 70,000 trouble free miles in two years in my Tesla and lost 10 miles of range in that time. Stop believing all you read in that Mail/Telegraph/Express…
@@gileshalliwell3591 I do my own research, so would you buy your car today with 70k on the clock? If not why not?
@@paulturner2379you still not answered the question. What do you base your original post on?
First golden rule to buying an electric car.
Rule No1. Don’t buy one.
Or, if you aren't as thick as mince, you will.
@@FFVoyager Really? Why’s that?
@@peterskelton7435 because they are inevitable.
You can keep driving your old fossil if you want but the manufacturers are going to be selling you new electric cars.
@peterskelton7435 maybe because they're an absolute pleasure to live with.
@@ballydufffilmschool3455 Yeah. Tell that to folk that live where there are no chargers, no infrastructure. They’re a joke. I’ll stick to my petroleum car thanks.
Please can you stop using Nicola like this. It's bad enough with one of her.
Don't buy one.
Then again, if you are not a cretin, you will.
No, buy two.
Rule 1 Never buy a brand new electric car
Rule 2 Buy German… but not VW
Rule 3 Diesel beats Petrol and Petrol beats Electric
Rule 4 ladies love a man in a jaaaggg
Rule 5 always assume your electric car has a range of 50 miles max
Rambling nonsense.
@@ballydufffilmschool3455 thanks for the positivity. Aren’t you ecomentalists supposed to embrace positivity at all times? Runt
@@BobTheBlue I'm not that into electric cars myself. Just pointing out that you're spouting a load of tedious, old man, Clarksonesque, Tory crap.
@@ballydufffilmschool3455 thanks for the compliment 👍
Rule 5b Always assume someone writing drivel like this has an IQ of 50!
First rule of buying a used electric car = just don't.