THIS IS What Truckers need to know about Long Wheelbase Trucks!
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One of the biggest comparisons in the trucking world has been between long and standard wheelbase trucks. On top of that, many have wondered whether it’s a good thing to extend the axle of your standard truck and therefore become one of the “long wheelbase” drivers in the U.S. Before you transfer to the long wheelbase, make sure to watch this video to learn a thing or two about these unique trucks.
Long Wheelbase trucks are ones that have an increased length between the wheels, hence the name long wheelbase. The wheelbase is properly measured from the center point of the forward axle to the center point in between the drive axles. With the increased trailers, obviously, the trucks had to increase as well, which is why they kept growing from 35 feet, eventually reaching 40 feet and continuing. However, the longer the trailer became, the shorter they had to make the tractor to accommodate the 55-foot overall length of the truck plus trailer. Eventually, the length of the trucks was dropped, and the feds were only measuring the trailers; this is a process that has been in place since the 1970s. Now we have long-wheelbase trucks, which provide a lot of comfort to the driver but aren't perfect!
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I drove a Peterbilt 379 with a 320 inch wheelbase with a 50 foot long 10'2" spread axle reefer coast to coast! It was a very badass truck but some of the grocery warehouses was a little tricky getting around at.
Well difference is “company” truck verse “owner operator” here in America.
False.
@@deaf2819 not even remotely true, I know a handful of other small companies that run long wheelbase trucks for their company drivers. I think what you're really looking for there for your comparison is mega carrier versus small carrier. That would be a more apt comparison.
@@SOAxZIPPER you tagged the wrong person…
Lol I run a 300 inch wheelbase truck all over the lower 48 including going into the boroughs of NYC , no it’s not always easy but it can be done, you just gotta know what you’re doing!!
IDGAF what you THINK you know. You can't fit a 78' long rig into a 70' hole - not even YOU, supertrucker.
I’ve seen some trucks that were essentially work RVs. HUGE sleeper cab probably outfitted with a bathroom with shower, kitchen, and a sleeping quarters. The only reason I can see a person wanting a truck like that, would be because they basically live out of the truck and occasionally visit home if they even have one.
Yes like mine full bathroom shower kitchen full size bed
I don't live out of truck i have a good life besides trucking
315"WB freightliner Coronado with 132" sleeper and home every weekend. But I run a lot of backroads in SD, ND northern MN and northwest WI. Not a lot of truck stop out there. It's nice to have a shower and bathroom when you get snowed in for 3 days in a town with not even a gas station.
Those are typically hobby truckers, or full-time over the road people who haul high value, lower weight cargo that pays enough to justify the cost of a truck like that.
@@redbluesome2829 yes you are correct my pay day would make most think about what they haul
The long wheel base is getting popular with huge sleepover cabs that are like winnibagos... kitchens, bathrooms, living rooms..
You mean legacy sleepers. Kind of a must when your sleeper is so large.
as a european I always wondered why some customized american trucks had such long wheelbases, not only compared with europeans but with the average American tractor trailer, thankfully this video answers the question
Yeah, it's just mainly a cool style (look), and they do ride better. He forgot to mention aerodynamics, the wind hitting the front of the trailer kills the fuel mileage (not a small factor today). Some guys just love 'em 😁
Check out the channel smart trucking, he has a video about large car trucks and the advantages and disadvantages. His videos a lot more informative than this one was. As of truck driver, I want a long wheelbase truck because the short wheelbase trucks ride like shit on absolute dog shit beat fuck roads. Something to think about
My wife and I team drive. We run a T-880 Kenworth with a 373” wheelbase. 180” sleeper. Pull a 53’ conastoga step deck. 85’ overall length. We run coast to coast.
uh good for you I guess?
Oh my God how can you turn with that huge wheelbase?
Brother can I talk to you please ?
I’m thinking of buying it 293 inch wheel base
Have questions about it ??
Could you send me your number
@@SuperDave01965 very carefully.
I team with a 24 year old lot lizard rescue from Albuquerque. We get very little work done
I like the old long wheelbase KW 825s of the 50s up in the States. They looked cool! My favorite truck where we're from is the truck/trailer combination in cab-over form coz of our tight roads.
He talks about “long wheelbase truck”, but only shows one, briefly, in the first minute or so. The rest of the video is of what 95%+ of the trucks are in the US.
Love the line "short wheel base trucks keep the fuel tanks away from the crime scene." (Sumery, but close) chucled at that.
I have a 303 w9 I have no issues getting around . Rides nice pulls great. Plus I have a Canadian spreed on my tractor. Come out of Alaska was a ice road truck . Been a great truck
Back in the 1980's, I drove a Frieghtliner cabover, drom truck. It had a 315 inch wheelbase. I pulled an old Brown flatbed that was 42 foot long. I drove it everywhere. Narrow country roads, highways, and in big cities too. It's biggest advantages, was one, I could cheat alot of weight. And it was awesome for hauling long loads like rebar, and laminated beams. I hauled just about everything you could think of with that truck and trailer. It definitely rode better than any other cabover sitting on a typical 180 wheelbase. And because of it's wheelbase, I could haul loads that others couldn't. I could also put that truck and trailer anywhere other's could put a short wheelbase tractor. It was registered as a truck and trailer, because of the 12 foot flatbed drom. That was the best working I ever drove. I surely do miss that one. But California was always a bit tricky with that truck. LOL
I love the looks of the long wheel base. There’s just to many tight places to deal with getting in and out of. I think practically and when it comes to work, I’ll take the shorter wheel base.
If you can get a 265 in a spot I can get my 300 there too
@@williamorman4779yeah but lol long wheel base aren’t for those who struggle to back the sound of it 😂you sound like you don’t have any problems so long wheel bases is for people like you
These junk yards need to be retired.
@@williamorman4779Maybe….. Maybe not 💀💀💀
@@williamorman4779 just a matter of setup and a couple of back and forth, but it can be done
I have a 315"WB and pull a 53ft trailer. I get around just fine. Run a lot of backroads 2 lane and back in to a lot of driveway that are know more then 10ft wide off a country 2 lane with no shoulder. Sometimes I get backed in and find it's harder to pull back out.
Come into Brooklyn or Queens and you wont be getting far. We used to run single axles with 45 foot trailers and I would still get jammed up almost every day. I used to carry a floor jack in the cab just in case I had to make minor adjustments to the cars that were parked up on the corners.
USA💗because we Can😂😂
If they were as hard to maneuver as the video and people in the comments claimed, they would be pretty unpopular instead of being popular. I imagine those drivers with 126" or longer sleeper bunks are laughing too hard to comment.
I'm an intermodal trucker I pull heavy 40ft containers. 36 ft bridge kingpin to centerline last axle. So to get a 51 ft 5axle 80000 lb bridge the tractor needs 15 ft from the 5th wheel to the centerline of the steer axle. So the perfect truck for me is a 9670 IHC 90" bbc 48" high 5thwheel.
11r22.5 radials on Alcoa aluminum rims
With Disc brakes an ISX Cummins with Jake, 13 speed manual, dual locker 3:90 rears on Henderson walking beam.
12, 34 ,34 = 80000 lb the DPF can go under the pass side of the truck.
And I got a Twin bunk on a day cab chassis. Winner winner truck stop buffet dinner.
I am in Western Pennsylvania and we have hills. A longer wheel base is needed. Decades ago, I saw short wheel base tractors starting out while going up hill and the front tires would come off the ground. With heavier loads, a longer wheel base is mandatory.
I think it's more a problem of the fifth wheel positioned too far back, here in italy we have lots of hills but a 4x2 is sufficient for us
How does this apply to on highway ?
I love your channel. Keep up the work, bro
There is a 16" difference between set forward and set back front axles. Much shorter front leaf springs on set forward means stiller. Hard riding springs hence the push for stretching Pete 379, 389, kw 900s, etc
Grate information on different trucks.
Thank you for this!
You’re welcome ☺️ Nice to hear!
I am no trucker BUT I know some & I think the trucker himself as far as his or her experience & skills behind the wheel is the biggest factor. A good truck driver can make just about any truck work where-ever short or long wheel base...
Muchas gracias!
Stretched semis are for looks and ride quality.
My company truck is a 280" wheelbase love it
Long wheel base is WAY better on the highway. As a man who has owned both cab over Volvo's and long nose Mack's and an eagle 9900i. Cab overs are fantastic in a tight space but a bonneted truck stucks to the road 1000x better. Long road trains don't sway anywhere near as bad on corners and rough roads as the same set-up with a cab over truck
U must be from the Land Down-Under, mate ! Right ? LOL
I honestly wish companies still used cabovers. I'd love to have one again for the maneuverability.
I can get any. Where a cab over can get. My truck is 326 wheelbase
In Oregon we see a lot of 28 foot triples. They are normally pulled by a single screw day cab or cabover tractor. UPS, FedEx, Estes, Oak Harbor, Old Dominion, and Franz Bakery are the most common triples.
@@user-oy4qp9pq6i Yeah I live in Oregon, I see those all the time.
They are great if you do a lot of city driving.
I spent 43 years driving from 1968 on so have driven tons of cabovers. They suck! Even with soft front springs they beat the crap out of you, trying to dress over the doghouse on a sleeper stinks, loading your gear stinks and you have to enter and exit like a monkey. Glad they are gone. I've never had an issue maneuvering deliveries through out the Western States.
Can't believe this guy has less than 300 subs. The quality is actually quite awesome man, keep up the good work!
You're kidding. He was wrong on so many levels, contradicted himself and didn't explain much of anything.
@@scottcurry479 I'm talking about the quality of the video. I am not ashamed to admit that I know nothing about trucks. So, I will not comment on how much of this is factual and how much is fake.
@@scottcurry479 not to mention the entire video is just text to speech with stock footage behind it lol
I have a 280 wheelbase and I'm good with it, and I go to chemical plants a lot which is sometimes a tight situation for me but I manage just fine
Try 326 plus
@@jeffreycrowther1374 326 to long for my type of work, it's already tight in chemical plants that would be crazy for me
I really like the look of long wheel base trucks but with delivery locations getting tighter and tighter then truck stops becoming fuller and fuller I feel like it'd be more of a pain to deal with. The gas mileage argument is probably negligible with fuel prices being already ridiculous and the low MPGs trucks get anyways I cant imagine a longer wheel base being much more expensive than prices already are.
I drove american trucks in Canada in past. There were ok on big wide roads, narrow cab was and visibility was not good.
These days i drive cabover rigid and tow behind trailer. Typical north European combination and this is comfort for driver because there is longwheel base. Because we have plenty mountains we have much more powerful engines, also 60 tones total weight.
Not a trucker, just thanking you all for the education!!!
Hmm! OK stretch it! #keepontruckin 😉👍
I'm a fan!!! Papa Fuzz
I been running long wheelbase from 280 to 290 for years and is perfect and have no zero problems getting around with it.
Left Lane,Smooth Sailing.....
My truck was 263 now is 310 I will never go back to short wb the best , I don’t care about companies or costumer period
nah when he said feds i lost it
Long wheel base trucks are here to stay. It's the Owner Operater vs Company Operator. It's a freedom thing to do what you want to a truck you own or you are operating to own. Company trucks, you can't do anything to it because it's not yours.
It depends do you want to be styling and profiling or just an everyday steering wheel holder. We do spend alot of time washing waxing and polishing while the rest say I will wash ot next year. We take pride in our ride.
longer wheelbase = better ride= not getting your ass beat daily on pos roads loaded w craters and other shit......
All for it !! Super Cool and I deal with the issues that arise. It's WORTH IT !!
For the people that don't know any better, it would have been great to see a drawing or photo of a long wheelbase trucks next to a standard wheelbase truck to understand the difference! I try to research it but got nothing because I don't know what I am looking for!
My opinion is some roads ain't made for long trucks they should make roads only for long trucks, they shouldn't be in tight cities it's ridiculous for GPS to send a long truck in very tight areas. Hopefully it will get better for truckers bless you all.
Thanks for your concern but it doesn't seem to be getting any better for trucks these days in fact it's getting worse!! These trucking GPSs are worthless and malfunction a lot. Mine takes me down tight narrow roads and into residential areas quite often and it's very frustrating and stressful to say the least!! Rand McNally and Garmin don't seem to really Care much these days. They just want your money so they put something together that they call a GPS for trucks but is really pretty well worthless in many cases.
More than once I had to “Rescue” a load from a few Long Wheelbase Rigs that, even with their Semi bobtailing, couldn’t turn around in our yard.
Here in the USA as far back the early ‘80s there were Length Limits that included both the tractor and trailer.
The USA needs to return to Tractor-Trailer Limits. It’s beginning to get crowded out there.
We're did you get this bull. I run a 290" truck. Push axle plus double trailers. More iner bridge for weight. Zero pro lem getting around.
Wind gets trapped with that extended frame,and twirls around in there making it a diesel hog. The truck will always have a parachute type pull to it.
330" wheel base on our Pete. No dramas hauling long distance at 75 to 80 mph. Not sure where the narrarator got the idea that we would be able to haul long distance.
We're 75 feet long with our 53 foot conestoga stepdeck.
Legally the length should be 72ft in most states however you can get permits before you go into some states and in order to drive a stretched truck you cannot have welds on the frame in most states or you will be impounded in the inspection lot.
315"WB 53ft trailer not had a permit and I get in places that the day cab truck are crying they can't get in.
Its 75' in most states.
They stretch trucks all the time by welding on the frame
Dude. Myself, I ran an extended hood 379 Pete with a 320 inch wheelbase pulling a 50 foot spread axle reefer trailer in all 48 states! Only state you have to get a permit is for California for a 53 foot trailer if you don't have it licensed there! States only enforce the the bridge on trailer/axle length. They measure from the kingpin to the center of the trailer tandems! They don't care about the trucks length anymore.
Dad ( a longhaul trucker) called them illinoise frame
“Why is it so long?”
That’s what she said ! LOL
When a chat bot makes the script…
Can't jackknife if you can't turn. ;)
It’s the chassis that they extend not the axle
Those trucks were also called Large Cars and usually they also swap or modified their engines to compensate for the weight gain
Like the look but I go to many tight places that there no way would get backed into
280" is perfect for me.
Loss of maneuverability is why I wouldn’t do it too many tight spaces
like driving a luxury bus-10-4
Out west they were long to comply with bridge laws, and to haul long loads. Easterners just do it to look cool.
it is from the early 50's when the length limit out west was 60 feet and the trailers were 32 -35 foot long, has nothing todo about fuel mileage, if you better fuel mileage today turn the jake off.
I’ll take a cabover instead. I used to drive them in long haul trips.
Never give up my 300” Pete.
LUV the Long wb LARGECARS!!!! HOOD TRKS!!!!!!!😎🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊🇺🇸
It's ok you don't even have one
@@johnallan863 I have owned several Long Hood K-DUBBS & Still have one that I'm currently restoring with 330wb 1100hp & have 3 trailers as well!!!!!
@@johnallan863 : well you know, the difference between men and boys is the size of their toys.
@@scottycollins1829 : just started on my 93 379 yesterday. Decided to rebuild that one and pull the bunk off and make a day cab out of it. It’ll be 270”wb b model cat 15 up against the dash with 3.70 rears. Should be a fun project. Probably my last one so I’m looking forward to it.
Not one of my trucks is less than 300" WB.
They do look cool, but going to Brooklyn, Bronx, The City....fuggedboutit!!!
Several go there everyday!!!!!!!
How you gonna park that at the truck stop ? 😅
I usually just assume extended wheel base trucks just drive 1 load a month in a straight line and like other men.
I would buy a shortbase wheel trucks.
Another example of a commentary by someone with limited or no practical knowledge of the subject !!
Very true. This video is packed with complete bullshit and bad opinions.
These guy has no clue, my pete 300 in flat top with a cat pulling a conestoga trailer it gave 6.5 mph
They cost more ,extra weight, less load,room for larger sleeper,lots of pros and cons.
Having driven a variety of rigs i found the long wheel trucks a fffffffffffffff royal pain to get into a lot of place that were not designed for them NO THANKS, i had a regular rig with a 60 inch condo bunk on it and it was a challange to get into many places so you either learnt real quick how to do things or you were in big doo doo
😊
Who wrote this???
I think they look silly because manoeuvrability is important.
The real long trucks do it mainly for looks and to feel like a super trucker. I think some look good but if it was my job no way I’d have one. It’s hilarious to hear them complain or see them struggle backing into a spot that a Volvo or Cascadia could back into like it was nothing.
We get into places everyone else gets into no problem.
I don't know that I ever seen a long wheelbase truck struggle getting into anywhere.
@@bigcamracing219 I’m sure that’s what you make sure to tell everyone at the truck stop🤣
@@tgentry4801 I see it all the time at my job, a long nose kw even caught his fender on the fence and bent it up
Thats why you probably drive a. Ascadia,Arcadia, vulva ,yea it can be a pain in city driving BUT don't like it .. don't drive it , practicality factor minimul cool factor an ride factor,
Why not just look good!? Your going to run more miles forward than backwards. And your only going to be in those tight spots just for a little while. Long and low is the only way to go.
Who cears they look cool ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Having never driven a long wheelbase like these,I really have a hard time understanding the need for so much wasted space
This is particularly true in Heavy Haul in that the overall length of some of the HH trucks is absolutely outrageous, in Europe they move the same loads with SWB vehicles that have much less wasted space and they get by just fine .. the problem with cabovers is if you get rammed from the rear and shunted into the back of basically any obstruction there is nothing to absorb the shock like there is with Peterbilts and such, then it's "goodbye legs" or worse .. that's how I see it all anyway, good luck:)
326 wheel base i have a 156 inches sleeper
Key Word!!!!!! U have NEVER driven long wb truck,,,,, so U dnt knw!!!!!
New European trucks could pull the same as ZUSA just more laws here
hauling tankers locally on short wheelbase day cab trucks , will absolutely beat da living hell outa you
especially on rough and unpaved roads
next truck : long wheel base , and absolutely no slip seating either - period
02:25 this narration is all over he place, combining facts with fiction, using terminology i have never heard of. like what are side roads ?? if i didn't know about the problem of high-centering with a low ground clearance, i'd have no idea wtf this guy is talking about.
So let me just say there is one reason and only one reason for an extended wheelbase. Well, two actually. The main reason is so you can carry lengthy linear loads like rebar, pipes, i-beams that are sticking out the front, so you don't have to get an over-length permit. The other is if you carry completely self-contained accommodation, the way many household movers do.
Any other time the owner is just stroking his ego, hoping to make the cover of overdrive magazine.
1:32 i can't see logic behind you need very long wheelbase truck to carry heavy loads European trucks for example
😂😂😂I’m not sure if AI wrote this or Kamala Harris... either way you missed the mark and offer nothing notable or substantial. Nice try
All the cool kids like a long wheelbase...there's nothing practical or profitable in having one. ..40 + yr veteran opinion.
I like to see in front of my truck. I like the modern aerodynamic styles better.
It’s a trucker thing, if you don’t get it you don’t get it…
If an O/O wants to own one and pay the fuel costs and be limited to areas of operation why is it anyone’s opinion. No different than people who drive a Mercedes when a Hyundai would do the job.
Anything up to 300 is nice. Longer than that, showing off and struggle. 😮
😊😂
The world consits of first and third world countries, I'm not privy to why there are no second world countries. In addition the countrie consit's of various smaller states, counties, cities, town, etc. A first world country, which has a first world state, county, city, town. Won't be an issue with truck's longer wheel bases. However, attempting to dock a trailer of any length by one of those long wheel truck's in New York's five bario's. Are going to bave major issue's.
To compensate for short comings a bloke may have
I am a retired 🚛 driver 35 years on the road I don't like the long space between the cab n. The trailer
manouverability has NOTHING to do with covering long distances.
It's a problem in TIGHT situations.. not traveling the highway.
Dude that made this video don't know ****
Here in the UK you could never have anything like that
You can't do a lot of things in the U.K.we do here in the U.S.
@@garyshinn4626 no, we can do most everything you can but our road networks are much older and smaller
@@alexangus9966 We hunt bison, elk, deer, bear, mtn goats, mtn sheep, moose, caribou, wild turkey, wolves, and small game, and we have the 2nd amendment to the Constitution. and the rest of the Bill Of Rights. We ride Harley Davidsons and race cars 9 months of the year at hundreds and hundreds of race tracks and dragstrips. The powers that be are wary of us because the citizens are armed to the teeth. Come over and join us anytime.
@@garyshinn4626 He's just saying that the UK is way more condensed and the spaces are physically too small for trucks like these. I'm all about patriotism but bro you can't just blow yourself like that unprompted.
@@dt99022 I just pointed out the differences and asked you to join us anytime.
They are gre a t looking but are not very easy to turn orbback at all
I once worked for an outfit in ca. They usually bought 225 inch wheelbase trucks but hired a new girl and she was told to new trucks for that year. When she placed the order with peterbilt she made a mistake and ordered 325 inch wheelbase trucks and peterbilt just bilt what was ordered. I drove 1 going out to the port la. Damn you talk about having to drive pulling an 18 foot overseas container container
4 foot of 3/8 slive weighs 75 pounds
glad we dont got cabovers too dangerous plus when in shop all your stuff will go all over the place i think my pete 579 is perfect minus the engline lights for no reason lol
WHY IS IT SO LONG ???
That's what my girlfriend ask
Personally i think long wheel wheelbases are ugly but I see why they are popular
Most of the claims on this vid are rubbish, please do your research before posting this load of baloney
Only drivable in US or Australia
Most of North America and South America all use American semis 😂 seeing a Euro cab over here is like seeing an American semi in Germany.