By far the best idea and logic Iv seen yet. No cranking down needed which is what hurts kayaks most of all. No slop or slipping around quick an easy. Good stuff dude 👊
I think there’s a huge misconception on ratchet straps being used on kayaks. I’ve used a single ratchet strap on both of my kayaks in the back of my truck and I’ve never had a failure or any type of damage resulting. The only thing that will happen, as you said in the video, is expansion and contraction of the plastic. Just make sure you check it in the morning when using a ratchet strap to make sure it’s still tight. If it loosened up, just crank it once or until it is tight again. Great video on a different and probably more user friendly way of doing it, but the ratchet is by far the quickest and most secure way that I’ve done personally. Different strokes. Tight lines y’all!
I don’t there is a misconception, the problem is they offer a mechanical advantage for tightening the strap and you NEVER need your straps that tight. When people crank them down and compress the boat it causes all sorts of problems and many of them are down the line and often never actually attributed to being an issue with transport.
That shows its not a problem using rachet straps but improper use of ratchet straps. Yes just enough for it to be snug and not moving around but not enough to flex or compress the boat. Especially pool toy boats. I see people using too few of straps too or using the same attachment points. Worse yet are people top loading them on cars with no bow or stern lines.
I have 2 new Crescent CK1s that I have to stack in my Tacoma short bed. I was thankfully taught to strap them in through the scupper holes, with cam straps , but is stacking them a bad idea with pool noodles in between (Besides how hard it is on this old woman and her young grandson to lift the 2nd one) I could strap one on my camper top, because it has a plain rack on it, but that seems even harder on me and the kayak. (Expensive lift accessories are not an option) I only need help on the water side because at home I store them at higher levels and slide into place. Thank you for your helpful videos!
He said it but failed to emphasize the most important step . Without saying “ It ain’t going nowhere “ . The boat will definitely end up in the road if not said .
But isn’t it dangerous to put any sort of pressure on the scruppers? I’ve been securing mine pretty much the exact way you said not to, so I don’t want to damage mine any further (only owned it about 2 months so nothing irreversible)
Agree my dealer said through the handles never through the scuppers because they are weak points. I use a bed extender and tie it down there too to keep it from swinging left or right.
If you have a bed extended, you can go around the kayak like a normal rack. I will be doing one about using bed extenders as well. Ask you dealer what they will do about the warranty when it rips the handle off. I was a dealer for several years and I’ve processed more warranties than most of them and even had to do them for other dealers many, many times.
And you don’t put a lot of pressure on the scuppers, that’s why I said not to make them too tight and I’ve said that in all of my videos about transporting kayaks.
Don’t have a sit on top, have a short bed and a short yak. I have a pelican intrepid and I have a damn hard time finding a place to tie down the front of my yak. At the moment I have to run a strap through the bungies on the top of the boat. It’s either the front handle or the bungies. Any recommendations for a tie down spot? I feel like it’s a simple solution that I’m making harder through frustration 😂
all good tips, I have always been worried I would damage my kayak by running ratchet straps to tight. so I always just barley make them snug where I can still fit my fingers between the strap & side I run 2 straps criss cross from front back. always looking for way to improve though! I have always stored my kayaks in garage & even trap them inside once they air/dry out. maybe it's overkill but only takes couple extra minutes & I'd rather b safe than sorry
What about if the rudder is below the kayak ? I've recently switched from Bonafide to Native Salyer 10. Scheduled for delivery in 2 weeks so I'm blind and new to this new load I'll be doing. Thanks 😎
Chad, thanks for the video. I do not have a truck (yet) but I use a trailer to take my kayak all over the place. I use YakAttack cam straps to secure my kayak. I have pool noodles underneath my SS107 to keep it from sliding. So far I have not had any problems but I am always researching for better ideas.
This seems like a better way but the question I have is wouldn't the scupper area will start to be damage and can you do the same with any kayak on a kayak trailer or trailer itself?
You don’t have to have one in my opinion. That being said; don’t leave in there for days on end in the heat, don’t use ratchet straps in the heat and don’t put anything under it to “prop it up” or you will like warp the hull. Sitting flat, tied down and nothing too tight and it will be fine
@ChadHooverFishing thanks for answering my question Chad! Not that we are on a first name basis. XD loved your last video with Gene. Yall ripped into each other. XD Also caught about a 6-7 pound largemouth today and pretty happy about it! Tight lines!!
I use a short choker through the scupper on each side and then run a strap from the loops on the choker to the anchor point in the truck bed. This avoids having to take the strap apart.
Great stuff, thanks! Does anybody use an electric winch to winch the kayak onto the back of a truck? Just got my AP136, don't want to hurt my tired old back ;)
I’ve seen a few people here and there so it. The ones of that I’ve seen have used an ATV winch and used it to pull the kayak onto a trailer or into the back of their truck.
This works if you have a deck that is higher than those anchor loops in the truck like yours. If you do this on a truck bed normally, it suspends the kayak in the air. One bad bump and those strap hooks pop off, lose tension or get even tighter.
Chad I have a video idea. I'm trying to get into back into kayak fishing this spring. And I have a problem. I don't know the best way to transport the kayak with a Honda civic safely and without damaging my car. I definitely can't afford 50,000 dollars pickup truck or one of those sweet Kayak trailers you guys have down south. Any suggestions?
Interesting. I would not have thought about using the scuppers in this fashion. Could you put in your list of videos or maybe a podcast discussion about the best rods for kayaks? I don’t think that rods are equal across kayak, boat, and bank. I think Jameson Redding builds rods. So he might be a good one to talk to.
Been using those kind of straps ever since your last video. Would you recommend using the scupper holes rather than using the side handles. In reference I have a oldtown pdl120. Thanks for sharing
Yes, I just think you are asking for trouble with the handles, if the hardware vibrates lose then you could potentially not have anything holding the kayak in place.
If you don’t have a Decked System like I do then the kayak is sitting on it. I didn’t show it in the video, but I have two foam blocks that I put under my kayak for that very reason. They are held in place by the weight of the kayak and then when I strap it down. They are basically foam yoga blocks
for light kayak like this one, this method works, but there are heavier and larger kayaks that this method may not work properly without additional straps.
For loading in the TRUCK BED, this works for all kayaks. I feel like these straps are adequate for pretty much any kayak, but you can always add extras if it will make you feel more comfortable
I would stay away from scupper holes on cheaper kayaks they are the weakest point and not meant to bear any weight. Unlike the handles which are meant to bear the entire weight of the kayak.
That’s up to you, this is how I’ve done it for 30 years and never had a problem. That research is because people over tighten and also use ratchet straps and crack the scuppers
Most importantly, DRIVE THE TRUCK DOWN THE RAMP FORWARD. Save the grunting you just did tryi g to push that yak uphill into your bed for the rookies. You're not gonna push a PA14 too many times uphill without figuring this out.
If you have a bed extender, you can also just go around the kayak like a regular rack, I will be doing one on bed extenders as well very soon. This was specifically for people that just put the kayak in the bed of their truck.
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Another great tip for all of us that are new to the sport. Thanks Chad you are the best
What a great tutorial. Loved & learned from it. I never thought about going through the scupper holes.
Excellent advice on tieing down. I’ll try this next time
This is exactly the information I was looking for, thanks Chad!
Thank you and thanks for watching
By far the best idea and logic Iv seen yet. No cranking down needed which is what hurts kayaks most of all. No slop or slipping around quick an easy.
Good stuff dude 👊
Thanks for the tip. You are always giving good advice. Keep it coming . Thx
Thanks so much for this info! Just what I needed!!
I think there’s a huge misconception on ratchet straps being used on kayaks. I’ve used a single ratchet strap on both of my kayaks in the back of my truck and I’ve never had a failure or any type of damage resulting. The only thing that will happen, as you said in the video, is expansion and contraction of the plastic. Just make sure you check it in the morning when using a ratchet strap to make sure it’s still tight. If it loosened up, just crank it once or until it is tight again.
Great video on a different and probably more user friendly way of doing it, but the ratchet is by far the quickest and most secure way that I’ve done personally. Different strokes. Tight lines y’all!
I don’t there is a misconception, the problem is they offer a mechanical advantage for tightening the strap and you NEVER need your straps that tight. When people crank them down and compress the boat it causes all sorts of problems and many of them are down the line and often never actually attributed to being an issue with transport.
That shows its not a problem using rachet straps but improper use of ratchet straps. Yes just enough for it to be snug and not moving around but not enough to flex or compress the boat. Especially pool toy boats. I see people using too few of straps too or using the same attachment points. Worse yet are people top loading them on cars with no bow or stern lines.
This has been so helpful. Your a great person and has been a great inspiration.
I have 2 new Crescent CK1s that I have to stack in my Tacoma short bed. I was thankfully taught to strap them in through the scupper holes, with cam straps , but is stacking them a bad idea with pool noodles in between (Besides how hard it is on this old woman and her young grandson to lift the 2nd one)
I could strap one on my camper top, because it has a plain rack on it, but that seems even harder on me and the kayak. (Expensive lift accessories are not an option) I only need help on the water side because at home I store them at higher levels and slide into place. Thank you for your helpful videos!
Thank you for this vid. First time transporting my yak with a new truck.. didn’t think of using scupper holes.
Scupper holes... great idea... thanks Chad
Great video especially for a newbie like myself!
He said it but failed to emphasize the most important step . Without saying “ It ain’t going nowhere “ . The boat will definitely end up in the road if not said .
Great tip I am going to use this tip from now on.
Great video, I will try this! Thanks
What about using J hooks? Is a fishing kayak like the RS117 or a Jackson Bite too big to be putting on j hooks?
But isn’t it dangerous to put any sort of pressure on the scruppers? I’ve been securing mine pretty much the exact way you said not to, so I don’t want to damage mine any further (only owned it about 2 months so nothing irreversible)
Agree my dealer said through the handles never through the scuppers because they are weak points.
I use a bed extender and tie it down there too to keep it from swinging left or right.
If you have a bed extended, you can go around the kayak like a normal rack. I will be doing one about using bed extenders as well.
Ask you dealer what they will do about the warranty when it rips the handle off. I was a dealer for several years and I’ve processed more warranties than most of them and even had to do them for other dealers many, many times.
And you don’t put a lot of pressure on the scuppers, that’s why I said not to make them too tight and I’ve said that in all of my videos about transporting kayaks.
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Don’t have a sit on top, have a short bed and a short yak. I have a pelican intrepid and I have a damn hard time finding a place to tie down the front of my yak. At the moment I have to run a strap through the bungies on the top of the boat. It’s either the front handle or the bungies. Any recommendations for a tie down spot? I feel like it’s a simple solution that I’m making harder through frustration 😂
Great Video Chad. 👍
all good tips, I have always been worried I would damage my kayak by running ratchet straps to tight. so I always just barley make them snug where I can still fit my fingers between the strap & side I run 2 straps criss cross from front back. always looking for way to improve though! I have always stored my kayaks in garage & even trap them inside once they air/dry out. maybe it's overkill but only takes couple extra minutes & I'd rather b safe than sorry
I ment lay a tarp over it, not trap... keeps them completely out of sunlight even through window. sun rays destroy everything
Thank you Chad! 🙋🏽♀️👍🏼❤️
Great video thanks!! Been going thru handle and using ratchet straps.
What about if the rudder is below the kayak ? I've recently switched from Bonafide to Native Salyer 10. Scheduled for delivery in 2 weeks so I'm blind and new to this new load I'll be doing. Thanks 😎
Thanks for your advice bro
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Chad, thanks for the video. I do not have a truck (yet) but I use a trailer to take my kayak all over the place. I use YakAttack cam straps to secure my kayak. I have pool noodles underneath my SS107 to keep it from sliding. So far I have not had any problems but I am always researching for better ideas.
Great tip!
Glad it was helpful!
Nice video! Great advice!
Thanks buddy
Thanks for the video. Can you please do a video on truck setup? With racks and deck system?
Yes. We are working on that this coming week
This seems like a better way but the question I have is wouldn't the scupper area will start to be damage and can you do the same with any kayak on a kayak trailer or trailer itself?
How essential is a bed extender to transporting a bonafide ss127 on a 5.5 foot bed f150 with the tailgate down?
You don’t have to have one in my opinion. That being said; don’t leave in there for days on end in the heat, don’t use ratchet straps in the heat and don’t put anything under it to “prop it up” or you will like warp the hull. Sitting flat, tied down and nothing too tight and it will be fine
@ChadHooverFishing thanks for answering my question Chad! Not that we are on a first name basis. XD loved your last video with Gene. Yall ripped into each other. XD Also caught about a 6-7 pound largemouth today and pretty happy about it! Tight lines!!
Make truck beds long again.
I use a short choker through the scupper on each side and then run a strap from the loops on the choker to the anchor point in the truck bed. This avoids having to take the strap apart.
Thanks for sharing!!
Great tip Chad!!! I tie two kayaks on their sides any suggestions?
Same exact thing, just go through both kayaks the same way.
Great stuff, thanks! Does anybody use an electric winch to winch the kayak onto the back of a truck? Just got my AP136, don't want to hurt my tired old back ;)
I’ve seen a few people here and there so it. The ones of that I’ve seen have used an ATV winch and used it to pull the kayak onto a trailer or into the back of their truck.
what length decked is that ?
It’s the 5’7”
@Chad Hoover Thanks Chad. I just got the 6'6" version yesterday
Where do your electronics and rods go?
Mine go in my DECKED system and in my passengers seat or the rod box on top
This works if you have a deck that is higher than those anchor loops in the truck like yours. If you do this on a truck bed normally, it suspends the kayak in the air. One bad bump and those strap hooks pop off, lose tension or get even tighter.
Nope, it still works, you just put the buckle on the top and you do the half hitch closer to the top of the gunwale.
I’ve done this for almost 30 years and I’ve only had a DECKED system for about five years
I will do an updated video to demonstrate it once this arctic weather gets out of here 😂😂
I never thought of going through the scupper holes. I love this method.
Chad I have a video idea. I'm trying to get into back into kayak fishing this spring. And I have a problem. I don't know the best way to transport the kayak with a Honda civic safely and without damaging my car. I definitely can't afford 50,000 dollars pickup truck or one of those sweet Kayak trailers you guys have down south. Any suggestions?
They make padded kayak car top holders that strap down on top through the doors.
Very helpful
What to do with 2 pdl 10 foot kayaks in a short bed?
Great tip
Buddy, you have taught many people a great way to save their Kayak. This is probably the best Kayak how-to ever made.
Thanks Cotton.
Trying this method... right away it feels more secure... I jus hope my scuppers don't fail
Thank you good video
Link to kayak straps please. Not working
Link updated: yakima.com/products/heavy-duty-straps?srsltid=AfmBOoqrL6-fxvFux7Q8JpXxPaPLLjhl4qQdGcYoSOmOzXRzY9Jth0XY
I use a foam pad they make for kneeling on when gardening instead of a mat.
Okie dokie 😜
Interesting. I would not have thought about using the scuppers in this fashion.
Could you put in your list of videos or maybe a podcast discussion about the best rods for kayaks? I don’t think that rods are equal across kayak, boat, and bank. I think Jameson Redding builds rods. So he might be a good one to talk to.
Yessir and thanks for the suggestion
Thanks man!
Keel guard tape.... is a big help
Been using those kind of straps ever since your last video. Would you recommend using the scupper holes rather than using the side handles. In reference I have a oldtown pdl120. Thanks for sharing
Yes, I just think you are asking for trouble with the handles, if the hardware vibrates lose then you could potentially not have anything holding the kayak in place.
Your just so awesome
Thank you
Very nice thank u
Thank you too
Interesting! Conventional "wisdom" has always been to never use the scupper holes as tie down points as they are the weakest points on the boat.
How do you keep the tailgate secured in the laydown position? Won't it bounce up and down while driving?
If u have a trailer hitch, use it to tie the front of the yak to the hitch...keeps it from bouncing
If you don’t have a Decked System like I do then the kayak is sitting on it. I didn’t show it in the video, but I have two foam blocks that I put under my kayak for that very reason. They are held in place by the weight of the kayak and then when I strap it down. They are basically foam yoga blocks
@@andybales7318 great suggestion thank you
@@ChadHooverFishing thanks good idea with the foam pad
Thanks!
for light kayak like this one, this method works, but there are heavier and larger kayaks that this method may not work properly without additional straps.
For loading in the TRUCK BED, this works for all kayaks. I feel like these straps are adequate for pretty much any kayak, but you can always add extras if it will make you feel more comfortable
I would stay away from scupper holes on cheaper kayaks they are the weakest point and not meant to bear any weight. Unlike the handles which are meant to bear the entire weight of the kayak.
OK Chad I want you to do one using a bed extender on a pickup truck.
I will be doing that very soon.
Genius
Thank you sir!!
@@ChadHooverFishing Used this method and keel mat this weekend👍🏻
how do you tie kayak to trailer
That’s a whole separate video and I will be covering that for sure. I’ve actually covered it in some older videos but I intend to redo it very soon.
Thank You
You are welcome, thanks for watching
Well why didn’t I think of that looks east 😊
Thanks
Research says do not tie through scupper holes.
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That’s up to you, this is how I’ve done it for 30 years and never had a problem. That research is because people over tighten and also use ratchet straps and crack the scuppers
That looks easy to do. Now show car topping one
I’ve already done that one several times. The link is in the description box
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I use rope and a truckers hitch!
That works too
Every angler have diffrent way to trap on kayak as long to secure your kayak
Most importantly, DRIVE THE TRUCK DOWN THE RAMP FORWARD. Save the grunting you just did tryi g to push that yak uphill into your bed for the rookies. You're not gonna push a PA14 too many times uphill without figuring this out.
I love it 's not heavy and easy to handle but it took 9 wks to come . very disappointed on that
Chad everyone knows you're supposed to slap it, and then say "That ain't goin' nowhere!"
😂😂😂😂
How about 2 kayaks? Maybe tailgate up situations too
Same thing, either stack them or put one at an angle on the side of the other
eh, she seems a little loose imo. i don't trust those dinky "sinch tight" straps either :P
I use a bed extender. I’ll use the scupper holes instead of the handles from now on.
If you have a bed extender, you can also just go around the kayak like a regular rack, I will be doing one on bed extenders as well very soon. This was specifically for people that just put the kayak in the bed of their truck.
Car edition
Thank you!
You're welcome!