Great videos. Small suggestion as you have now tested so many SBC, pico, mini and other devices: At the end of the video, give a few sentence summary what each device is targeted/great for (e.g. Great to run Pi-Hole + Squid with 8GB of RAM), what it will not be optimal for (running full Unbound + Pi-Hole + few other services at the same time on a busy home network) and what it can't properly do (e.g. can't do full line speed pfSsense routing/firewalling on a heavy 10GbE network). This way it sets each device in it's "roughly use it for this" device class. Thanks!
Actually the Orange Pi 5 Pro has LPDDR5 ram just like the Max. It's the main reason why I bought the Pro after having two OPi5 regulars. The Pro price is the "same" as RPi5, $60 for 4GB ram, $80 for 8GB. LOOKING back I wish I had the Max but it wasn't even announced at the time of my Pro purchase. Three main selling points [for me] for the Max over the Pro: NVMe is 4 lanes instead of [PCIe2.0] 1 lane, SPI flash chip is already built in so no need to hot air gun one on (needed to run Android on NVMe), and on the Pro MASKROM mode is very finicky where I had to use a double male USB-A [3.0] cable b/c of a lack of power negotiation (even though a USB-A to USB-C cable works on regular OPi5)
20:40 if you were looking for the stats for nerds option (or whatever it was called, the one to show dropped frames), you need to enable it in the UA-cam app settings
Bugger, the one thing I really wanted to know was how much bandwidth the RAM on this board had; the difference between LPDDR4 and 5 is actually pretty important for my use case. Great coverage otherwise!
Sadly Armbian does not support this model yet :(. It's unclear from the video - is the video playing using VPU in Linux or just the CPU? AV1 is more demanding than VP9, and results may be different. Would like to see a zStandard accelerator in an SoC. Cast Inc. has some IP of older general compression algorithms but I have never seen it in the wild :)
Can this board be used for NAS build like the RasPi5 with the Raxda SATA Hat? If so which would you recommend for a NAS build between the following? Odroid H4 Plus RasPi5 Raxda Rock 5 ITX or one of the other Raxda 5 boards. I’m trying to keep costs low as possible. I’m also open to other recommendations. My NAS will be mainly for movies I have made digital.
i can't praise tbe pi 5 max enough as bang for buck. Ubuntu is awesome compared to rpi5. Though this does depend on your individual project requirements, as a pc or server for home projects then yes, orange pi5 max is awesome
Yes, an Orange Pi 5 Pro fan can work on an Orange Pi Max. Not sure if I would recommend it, but this is the cooler I used www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807183983309.html
N100 is faster, but I'll take a Max over an X4 any day of the week due to the I/O and board layout. I actually have both and the X4 is like ... I dunno... reminds me of if you accidentally mix in the wrong puzzle piece into a different box LOL.
No HDMI In, like in the Rock 5B or NanoPC-T6, and that SOC has that feature, so that could be exposed the the user if wired. Why not use MiniHDMI for that instead of simply not adding it, boooooohooooo
That video is shit for testing, has no large movement in particular at the start which causes high pic changes between frames which is needed to properly test hardware decoding working properly.
Hardware is getting better, but it's all about the software, support, and community.
Great support
as long as ubuntu OS working everything will be fine
Ubuntu Rockchip works great on it @@JenitzTimeline
true ...
definitely
I love how on all Orange Pi devices the I/O is not bottlenecked through an internal USB hub like on the Raspberry Pi.
Great videos. Small suggestion as you have now tested so many SBC, pico, mini and other devices: At the end of the video, give a few sentence summary what each device is targeted/great for (e.g. Great to run Pi-Hole + Squid with 8GB of RAM), what it will not be optimal for (running full Unbound + Pi-Hole + few other services at the same time on a busy home network) and what it can't properly do (e.g. can't do full line speed pfSsense routing/firewalling on a heavy 10GbE network). This way it sets each device in it's "roughly use it for this" device class. Thanks!
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll definitely try in future videos!
Impressive first impressions. Nice documentation.
Absolutely. I wish all SBC vendors did this
Actually the Orange Pi 5 Pro has LPDDR5 ram just like the Max. It's the main reason why I bought the Pro after having two OPi5 regulars. The Pro price is the "same" as RPi5, $60 for 4GB ram, $80 for 8GB. LOOKING back I wish I had the Max but it wasn't even announced at the time of my Pro purchase. Three main selling points [for me] for the Max over the Pro: NVMe is 4 lanes instead of [PCIe2.0] 1 lane, SPI flash chip is already built in so no need to hot air gun one on (needed to run Android on NVMe), and on the Pro MASKROM mode is very finicky where I had to use a double male USB-A [3.0] cable b/c of a lack of power negotiation (even though a USB-A to USB-C cable works on regular OPi5)
Upgrade to the Panfrost GPU drivers and your Glmark score will literally double. I get ~1200 on my Rock 5B
i get ~2500 on my rock5b with Panthor GPU Drivers
@ dang I think I meant panthor but wait really? Wonder what am I doing wrong lol
The specs are good but all I ever see with orange pi is nightmares with software compatibility,
20:40 if you were looking for the stats for nerds option (or whatever it was called, the one to show dropped frames), you need to enable it in the UA-cam app settings
Thank you!
@@TechnicallyUnsure no problem, I personally find this solution annoying, but I understand that not everyone on Android uses this option
Bugger, the one thing I really wanted to know was how much bandwidth the RAM on this board had; the difference between LPDDR4 and 5 is actually pretty important for my use case. Great coverage otherwise!
Sadly Armbian does not support this model yet :(. It's unclear from the video - is the video playing using VPU in Linux or just the CPU? AV1 is more demanding than VP9, and results may be different.
Would like to see a zStandard accelerator in an SoC. Cast Inc. has some IP of older general compression algorithms but I have never seen it in the wild :)
Firmware update support missing. You are on your own....
Can this board be used for NAS build like the RasPi5 with the Raxda SATA Hat?
If so which would you recommend for a NAS build between the following?
Odroid H4 Plus
RasPi5
Raxda Rock 5 ITX or one of the other Raxda 5 boards.
I’m trying to keep costs low as possible. I’m also open to other recommendations.
My NAS will be mainly for movies I have made digital.
Fantastic board i like it alot :)
I use it as home cloud server. It works fine for over an year fanless.
this model just release
@@JenitzTimeline the new model is pretty much the same
i can't praise tbe pi 5 max enough as bang for buck. Ubuntu is awesome compared to rpi5. Though this does depend on your individual project requirements, as a pc or server for home projects then yes, orange pi5 max is awesome
It is cheap because they invest absolutely nothing in software.
@igorpecovnik agreed but ubuntu works flawlessly
@@rorytruman they have nothing to do with that.
@@rorytruman All Armbian forks works the same.
Outstanding "post edits"
I only see 7 cores. shouldnt there be 8? also try running a true 4k /8k video locally on the device not a yt video
core numbers start from zero so it adds up to 8 cores
@@arduinokuluckaincubator4711 exactly. I only count 7 listed
there’s only 7 temp readings
btop and htop shows 8 cores psensor shows 7 cores temp reading on mine
This video is cool as a cucumber
Does flatpak work or snap to get latest kodi 21.1?
Cases for this mini beast?
I can't find the fan - is the 5 max the same form factor as other orange pi 5 models???
Yes, an Orange Pi 5 Pro fan can work on an Orange Pi Max. Not sure if I would recommend it, but this is the cooler I used www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807183983309.html
Geekworm also has the N515 case. Has a fan and smaller heatsinks that sit on top of the chips themselves.
Difference also in nvme slot speeds, on max they're much faster then pro
Orange Pi is focusing on hardware and no software advances. Bad
NICE SBC SIR
Is the GPIO layout the same RPi layout?
Yes, I believe so
MATCH BETWEEN MAX 5 AND RADXA X4 ?
N100 is faster, but I'll take a Max over an X4 any day of the week due to the I/O and board layout. I actually have both and the X4 is like ... I dunno... reminds me of if you accidentally mix in the wrong puzzle piece into a different box LOL.
But why is it so expensive? You can get n100 cpu in this formfactor now.
i have 3b, it practically doesn't have driver and OS support, Ethernet is broken
No HDMI In, like in the Rock 5B or NanoPC-T6, and that SOC has that feature, so that could be exposed the the user if wired. Why not use MiniHDMI for that instead of simply not adding it, boooooohooooo
That video is shit for testing, has no large movement in particular at the start which causes high pic changes between frames which is needed to properly test hardware decoding working properly.
cute dns cache/travel router
Can I have your watch? :)
SIR IT'S 3 AM YOU SHOULD SLEEP NOW SIR
Haha, no, I just forgot to change the time zone
@@TechnicallyUnsure Its ok bro we're all out here workin hard