Hi Phill, I've got the traditional styled bench drill press it's a Kinzo 0.5 hp 350 watts it's been on my workbench for 12 years and still works like new, back in Easter/spring time I fitted a work lamp attached it to the shaft. I do like the modern bench drills like you said they are a noisy but with a lot more depth to work with. A great demonstration video , Take care👍
Cheers Shaun 👍🏻 I might add a work light to mine eventually. I'll see how I get on with this one 🤞🏻 can't beat the traditional ones when it comes to build quality I think.
Thanks Phill, good idea for a video, it's certainly worth comparing and contrasting the two designs as anyone buying now has the choice between either design. Many traditional designs do have a depth stop setting, but it tends to be a little fiddlier than the modern style. You do even get some with a digital speed adjuster/readout but these tend to be quite high-end machines with a price tag to match ! I think the speed adjustment is the biggest advantage as like you said many users of the traditional design set a middling speed and leave it on that for everything. I can't see the modern one lasting as long though, there are some old ones around 100 years old that are still going strong ! Nice to have both if you've got the room I suppose !
Hi Andy, yea I was thinking that I had seen some with a kind of depth stop although mine doesn't. I haven't seen an older one with a digital speed readout ill have to look into that sounds interesting. Yea I would say the easy speed adjustment is probably the biggest advantage over the older style for me. Cheers Andy!
Thanks for the comparison. I ended up buying a second hand Bosch PBD40. It's more compact and mobile (don't have a dedicated workspace yet), I like the digital depth gauge and laser and the ease with which you can clamp down an item and adjust height and speed. It's definitely good enough for my woodworking and drilling in plastic. Maybe not for serious metal working where you'd need the tightest tolerances.
@@PhillWyattProjects I have to add that I had to tighten the actual rod that carries the nuts, with pliers as I noticed that it was vibrating loose, so for one series of holes the depth was changing slightly.
Useful video Phill, thanks for making it. I have had a traditional drill for many years, mine does have a depth stop. I agree with the belt issue though, I tend to leave it in the middle speed. I love the heavy weight of it and the cast iron. I have looked at the more modern ones, and although I like the laser and electronic speed control I decided to stick with my "Old school" vintage one. Over the years I have looked after it and it still looks like new, if it dies then I'll have another think. 👍
Cheers Steve 👍🏻 yea I mainly bought mine out of curiousity because the modern ones look so different. Quality wise I think the traditional type wins every time.
This has been a really good review video, i had an old style one that had about 5 owners before me, but the motor finally went on it never i replaced it but i think if i got another one it would be the old style really well build, you can always give us another review once you have used it a few times 👍
Cheers mate 👍🏻 yes I'm planning on doing a review about it soon I've already started filming it. I'm sure that the traditional ones have better build quality although I guess that applies to most things these days.
I recently bought the Bosch version of this modern drill press and what a disaster! The chuck was jammed on arrival and after a 2 week 'repair' it was exactly the same. That was returned and I'm back with my 20 year-old Rexon.
Power of the dp55 may be more, but at low speed the torque is definitely less. The old style (pulley) drill press increases the torque at low speed, the modern digital one doesn't. So it may be more powerful at the higher speed settings but definitely not at low speeds. I've got a DP55 and find it pretty useless for drilling steel at low speed, as the torque just isn't there and the speed constantly bogs down and pulsates. At higher speed for woodworking (or drilling mild steel under about 6.5mm dia) it's not too bad though. Also, it's almost 100% that most of these modern ones will be dead and gone long before the traditional type dies. Those old ones can easily last 40+ years.
G'day from Australia. You raise an important point. I bought this model and I'm considering selling it off. There is another model in this brand with a 2 speed gearbox, as does the Bosch model that this has copied. That gearing would provide more torque, which I would like so that I can drill steel. So I have kept my very old and cheap traditional belt driven drill press for steel work and limit the Scheppach to timber work. Sadly it has a lot of run-out in the spindle. I should have increased my budget considerably and bought a brand-name traditioanl drill press to replace my old one, but I was hunting for a bargain.
@@rossmorrison3510 Yes I kept my old traditional drill press for the same reason Ross. At least I can just leave the belts set for the lowest speed now, and use the dp55 for higher speed work. I must have been lucky, because the run-out on mine is actually pretty good, though that's probably just luck of the draw. Since last posting I've used this dp55 a bit more and found that I like it a lot for woodworking and light metal work. Will still keep my traditional DP for heavier metal work though. Also, I've modified the two short handles on the crank so that all three are the same length now, and that's made it a lot nicer to operate.
@@stuartstokes5930 I realised my wording was poor. The runout on the Scheppach is actually quite good. I meant that the runout on my old belt drill press is very bad. There is a lot of play between the shaft and the quill. It was extremely cheap, so I got what I paid for. Here in Oz the Scheppach is sold as Ferrex through Aldi.
Yes I wanted the Bosch although it's double the price so I went with this one. Might get the Bosch in future if this one breaks although it seems good so far.
Like all modern stuff,way to complicated to do the same thing as the older one.defo the older one for me,which is a good job as i have just brought one😂.interesting comparison but i just hate electronic over complication.good video tho.👍
Yes I would prefer it to have a brushless motor although with this model the brushes can be replaced so it would not be too much of a problem to replace them when they do wear out.
I’ll take the Draper. The Sheppach is too rickety and flimsy. You didn’t demonstrate the most important feature that they are built to do which is how good or bad they are at drilling holes in things. So not really that helpful a video I’m afraid.
I have found the Sheppach to be quite stable and useful. If anything it is less top heavy than the older designed drills with a more stable base. It also has around twice the amount of power when compared with the older drill in the video. Both drill holes just fine although I would give the win to the Scheppach because of it's extra power available. Also, with the Scheppach the base is the table so it is always square to the bit. I can not say the same about the older drills.
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Great video but I like the older machines I have one from the 1960 s and love it thanks for a great video Phill 🍺🍺👍
Cheers Brian 👍🏻 yea I like both this was more about curiosity than anything else.
I have the Bosch version and love it.
Yes the Bosch version looks good. Has some good reviews too.
Super informative video thanks for showing the evolution. I'll buy your old drill press if you wanna move forward w the plastic version :)
and thank u for geting me in wood working :}
That's great to hear! 😀
Do u have a email
Hi Phill, I've got the traditional styled bench drill press it's a Kinzo 0.5 hp 350 watts it's been on my workbench for 12 years and still works like new, back in Easter/spring time I fitted a work lamp attached it to the shaft. I do like the modern bench drills like you said they are a noisy but with a lot more depth to work with. A great demonstration video , Take care👍
Cheers Shaun 👍🏻 I might add a work light to mine eventually. I'll see how I get on with this one 🤞🏻 can't beat the traditional ones when it comes to build quality I think.
Thanks Phill, good idea for a video, it's certainly worth comparing and contrasting the two designs as anyone buying now has the choice between either design.
Many traditional designs do have a depth stop setting, but it tends to be a little fiddlier than the modern style. You do even get some with a digital speed adjuster/readout but these tend to be quite high-end machines with a price tag to match !
I think the speed adjustment is the biggest advantage as like you said many users of the traditional design set a middling speed and leave it on that for everything. I can't see the modern one lasting as long though, there are some old ones around 100 years old that are still going strong !
Nice to have both if you've got the room I suppose !
Hi Andy, yea I was thinking that I had seen some with a kind of depth stop although mine doesn't. I haven't seen an older one with a digital speed readout ill have to look into that sounds interesting. Yea I would say the easy speed adjustment is probably the biggest advantage over the older style for me. Cheers Andy!
Thanks for the comparison. I ended up buying a second hand Bosch PBD40. It's more compact and mobile (don't have a dedicated workspace yet), I like the digital depth gauge and laser and the ease with which you can clamp down an item and adjust height and speed. It's definitely good enough for my woodworking and drilling in plastic. Maybe not for serious metal working where you'd need the tightest tolerances.
Your welcome 👍🏻 the Bosch PBD40 looks good. I've seen many good reviews about it. Should be great for most applications.
My Clarke old style has a depth adjustment, using a nut and locking nut, and a pointer which runs up and down a measurement on the front of the drill.
Yes I have since realised that some of the traditional styles of drill press also had a depth gauge.
@@PhillWyattProjects I have to add that I had to tighten the actual rod that carries the nuts, with pliers as I noticed that it was vibrating loose, so for one series of holes the depth was changing slightly.
Useful video Phill, thanks for making it. I have had a traditional drill for many years, mine does have a depth stop. I agree with the belt issue though, I tend to leave it in the middle speed. I love the heavy weight of it and the cast iron. I have looked at the more modern ones, and although I like the laser and electronic speed control I decided to stick with my "Old school" vintage one. Over the years I have looked after it and it still looks like new, if it dies then I'll have another think. 👍
Cheers Steve 👍🏻 yea I mainly bought mine out of curiousity because the modern ones look so different. Quality wise I think the traditional type wins every time.
This has been a really good review video, i had an old style one that had about 5 owners before me, but the motor finally went on it never i replaced it but i think if i got another one it would be the old style really well build, you can always give us another review once you have used it a few times 👍
Cheers mate 👍🏻 yes I'm planning on doing a review about it soon I've already started filming it. I'm sure that the traditional ones have better build quality although I guess that applies to most things these days.
good vid phill
Cheers Owen 👍🏻
I recently bought the Bosch version of this modern drill press and what a disaster! The chuck was jammed on arrival and after a 2 week 'repair' it was exactly the same. That was returned and I'm back with my 20 year-old Rexon.
@@FrankJohnson-ye8lt I'm still using this scheppach drill press and it's all working just fine. I prefer it to the older style drill press.
Power of the dp55 may be more, but at low speed the torque is definitely less. The old style (pulley) drill press increases the torque at low speed, the modern digital one doesn't. So it may be more powerful at the higher speed settings but definitely not at low speeds. I've got a DP55 and find it pretty useless for drilling steel at low speed, as the torque just isn't there and the speed constantly bogs down and pulsates. At higher speed for woodworking (or drilling mild steel under about 6.5mm dia) it's not too bad though. Also, it's almost 100% that most of these modern ones will be dead and gone long before the traditional type dies. Those old ones can easily last 40+ years.
G'day from Australia. You raise an important point. I bought this model and I'm considering selling it off. There is another model in this brand with a 2 speed gearbox, as does the Bosch model that this has copied. That gearing would provide more torque, which I would like so that I can drill steel. So I have kept my very old and cheap traditional belt driven drill press for steel work and limit the Scheppach to timber work. Sadly it has a lot of run-out in the spindle. I should have increased my budget considerably and bought a brand-name traditioanl drill press to replace my old one, but I was hunting for a bargain.
@@rossmorrison3510 Yes I kept my old traditional drill press for the same reason Ross. At least I can just leave the belts set for the lowest speed now, and use the dp55 for higher speed work. I must have been lucky, because the run-out on mine is actually pretty good, though that's probably just luck of the draw. Since last posting I've used this dp55 a bit more and found that I like it a lot for woodworking and light metal work. Will still keep my traditional DP for heavier metal work though. Also, I've modified the two short handles on the crank so that all three are the same length now, and that's made it a lot nicer to operate.
@@stuartstokes5930 I realised my wording was poor. The runout on the Scheppach is actually quite good. I meant that the runout on my old belt drill press is very bad. There is a lot of play between the shaft and the quill. It was extremely cheap, so I got what I paid for. Here in Oz the Scheppach is sold as Ferrex through Aldi.
I'm a fan of the traditional type.
Yes me too. I was tempted to try the new style and now I like both. What a dilemma 😲
it is very similar to the bosch pbd 40 🙂
Yes I wanted the Bosch although it's double the price so I went with this one. Might get the Bosch in future if this one breaks although it seems good so far.
Like all modern stuff,way to complicated to do the same thing as the older one.defo the older one for me,which is a good job as i have just brought one😂.interesting comparison but i just hate electronic over complication.good video tho.👍
I understand what you mean although I really like the look of the modern Drill Press it looks futuristic I think.
the newer style would be objectively better with a brushless motor
Yes I would prefer it to have a brushless motor although with this model the brushes can be replaced so it would not be too much of a problem to replace them when they do wear out.
@@PhillWyattProjects how do you find out which brushes to get and where do you get those?
I’ll take the Draper. The Sheppach is too rickety and flimsy. You didn’t demonstrate the most important feature that they are built to do which is how good or bad they are at drilling holes in things. So not really that helpful a video I’m afraid.
I have found the Sheppach to be quite stable and useful. If anything it is less top heavy than the older designed drills with a more stable base. It also has around twice the amount of power when compared with the older drill in the video. Both drill holes just fine although I would give the win to the Scheppach because of it's extra power available. Also, with the Scheppach the base is the table so it is always square to the bit. I can not say the same about the older drills.
@@PhillWyattProjects It lacks torque without at least a 2 speed gearbox.