I really like Age of Ultron. It's not an origin story, it's not the end. It's just the Avengers being the Avengers and we really only got one of those.
I think people were just expecting something more complex from this one, coming off of heavy films in phase 2 like Winter Soldier and Ironman 3. It's not a bad movie by any means
he's bland, all he does is shoot arrows and he doesn't get a lot of screen time showing him doing cool things and defeating strong enemies, it's not peoples fault for disliking him honestly. But I think he will get a bit more popular when his own show comes out
@@yeetus8870 With that reasoning I can understand ppl being indifferent abt him, but I don’t understand ppl disliking him. I’m not frustrated abt the Hawkeye hate though, I just find it somewhat confusing. In the end, however, I say let ppl like and dislike whatever they want, whether I find it rational or not.
@@yeetus8870 by that logic, Widow should too If she wasn't Scarlett Johansson but an average girl, she'd have no different reaction to, especially from my fella guys Never totally liked her version, Olsen is my fav MCU actress
@@leonardolonghi3472 When I bring up that comparision people try to tell me Natasha was in Iron Man 2... then remind them that Clint was in Thor... which they completely forgot about.
So I realised how much they relied on Jarvis. Once Jarvis was taken out, they didn't even sense Ultron coming until the audio feedback and when he approached them. They might not have realised what had happened until maybe later that night or the next day if he had just took off there and then.
This movie was always meant to be the Avengers as one complete, experienced team fighting and beating the bad guy. It gets a lot of shit but honestly its a great movie in the MCU and has a lot of great moments throughout.
I like how Age of Ultron acted as a character study for all the members of the avengers. Previously, I found that a lot of superhero movies before the Spider-Man trilogy had their hero’s reach their self actualization after their initial/origin film. And I appreciate how marvel shows the consequences of the characters choice to be a hero and their experiences in their initial film. I find that DC has a nasty habit of having their hero’s overcome their biggest challenges in their first film which leaves very little storytelling potential for future movies. I like how flawed the marvel characters are. Their turmoil and emotional journeys throughout the rest of the movies is very well handled and builds conflict without sacrificing the true nature of the character. I especially enjoy how becoming a hero didn’t make Tony or Steve unwavering, morally perfect people. They are still fundamentally who they have always been but their experiences as hero’s takes a toll on their ideals as well as their emotional well being. I like that these characters don’t grow in a straight upward direction.
Thank you for saying this because I always thought the same thing but didn't realise that that was what I thought EXACTLY, nor did I know how to begin to express that thought. I too believe that this was a great movie for that reason and don't understand why it gets so much ..hate? no that's too strong a word ...strong dislike? , but never knew how to explain why it is in fact a great move so thank you for taking the time to explain what us AOU fans have been thinking for years. Ps. this was actually when I first heard of Marvel movies outside of the Raimi Spiderman and 2000's XMen movies , when trailers for this movie (AOU) were airing.
Iron man never did. He became a transhuman cryptofascist with PTSD that only managed a semblance of normal life in the wake of the apocalypse that was his worst nightmare. Which I guess is an arc. He still made a personal murder satellite and gave it to a 15 year old kid.
@@Souledex I’m not condoning Tony’s actions. There are many times throughout the movies where I despise tony for his actions. I only meant that his character progression was realistic and made sense for who he is as a person. Tony is self-centred, a control freak, and a narcissist. I appreciated how his negative traits didn’t disappear once he became a hero. If anything his PTSD and fear of facing an unbeatable threat only exacerbated his negative traits. When tony was finally confronted with the inevitability of his own mortality he tried changing the world around him instead of realizing that the world is the same as it’s always been, he’s the one who’s changed. The world has always been in potential danger and always will be, but Tony can’t except that or live with the fear and anxiety it brings him. So his decision to have the avengers overseen by the government makes sense. I don’t agree with it, but I understand why Tony makes the decisions that he does. Which is how I know these are well written characters.
There's no lack of continuity (at least as far as Iron Man is concerned in this movie)Tony never intended to stop being Iron Man. Him destroying the suits at the end of his third movie was him overcoming his PTSD and OCD and showing to Pepper that she genuinely meant more to him than they did.
He literally said that he is (still) Iron Man at the end but people still act like him destroying the 30 + hyper specific suits he made under sleep deprivation from his PTSD means he would never put on a suit again.
@@kaybaumann4989 Exactly... Also he explains in this movie that the Avengers are not gonna be around forever, eventually they need to go home(retire). The Iron Legion is like the first steps to that goal. But this Ultron setback makes him rethink that solution
In Iron Man 3, Stark says he is going to cut down on building his suits. The clean slate protocol to destroy all his suits is to show Pepper how much he cares for her and that he has to find another way to deal with his PTSD.
I agree, the point was to show that he didn’t need the suits, not that he was done with them. Still, it definitely seems like a discontinuity to go from the end of Iron Man 3 to this movie.
And those were not suits, you couldn’t wear one, they were not made for combat, that’s why in the beginning when you see one that it’s just warning everyone to stay back. Tony never said he was retiring or not going to be Iron Man anymore, just cut back.
@@Adrianne519 did you not even watch that movie? you could wear ALL OF THEM multiple ones of them opened up for him to get inside of and got destroyed instantly
To me, Age Of Ultron was the bridge between the first Avengers, and the next Captain America movie..... the themes of right and wrong, of becoming the problem you seek to defeat, does power need regulation, are ones that come full circle in the next Cap movie. This was a nice tight package of a story, but it's real purpose is just to tease those themes that becomes so important later in the MCU. In that aspect, I think this film was a HUGE success. Though, Quicksilver would have been able to get Clint and that kid out of the way without getting hit by any of the bullets.... at least in the comics.
What made Marvel "Marvel" was the fact that they dealt with the fact that these folks also had real lives, families and problems outside of the villain. It's what gave them heart and helped move comic books into the respected artform that they are today. Carry On!!
I'll never understand why people like to shit on this movie. It accomplishes everything it's trying to be - the plot, the characters and their motivation, the cinematography, the soundtrack, the fun and jokes, the message - it has it all.
Generally, people thought the main baddy didn't really live up to expectation, and the movie tried a bit too hard to tease upcoming sequels, which is best left for a mid/post credits scene.
The problem was right when the trailer for this movie released, Marvel announced the entirety of Phase 3. So everyone was looking forward to Civil War and Infinity War and therefore this movie felt like filler. I personally really enjoyed the movie.
It's because this movie wasn't trying to be anything. Hank Pym is Ultron's creator in the comics, and the story for this movie was completely changed for no reason other than to accommodate Edgar Wright's Ant Man script, which was never meant to be in the MCU and prevented Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne from being in the Avengers.
Concerning Hawkeye... in the MCU, him and Natasha are two of my favorite characters. Not because they are the best characters in a comparison type of way, but because here you have Gods like Thor, Hulk, Vision, super powered humans like Captain America, Wanda, tech genius' like Tony Stark... and in the middle of it you have two regular humans, albeit at the 'top of their game' on the world stage, but still only human, who rely on their skill set to stand beside the others and fight world shattering threats. To the others, every fight with beings like Ultron, is a challenge with moderate risk... it's not like Ultron was ever going to kill Hulk, or Thor... but Hawkeye and Natasha, fights at this level are very potentially lethal for them, and they still hold their own - which to me is deserving of the most respect in these films.
Fax, I was young enough to dress up for Halloween when the avengers came out and I went as him. I was sad when half the houses had to ask who I was lol.
I remember not liking this film that much when I first saw it, but in hindsight it’s way better than I thought prior One thing I remember being super confused about, which seems to be consistent, was the love story between Black Widow and Hulk. But after rewatching avengers & their backstories, I totally get why it happened.
Not only is it following the other 4 films prior but this is also a directed sequel to the first Avengers and they were completely setting them up in that movie. She was the first one he met and recruited him, she is the first one on the team to see him turn into Hulk, she is the one that almost gets his wrath and has anyone notice her slight worry in CATWS when Sitwell called out his name when asked who was going to be a target?
There's a number of MCU movies that I've liked more each time I watched it. This one definitely. Although I really didn't like the whole 'losing my uterus/ovaries makes me a monster' set up. I mean... ugh.
@@wtimmins I think she didn’t meant ‘losing hey uterus’ made her a monster, but the meaning behind it. The red room took apart that choice from her just to make easier her job as an assassin, that’s why she thinks herself as a monster, because of the things she did.
As much as there are parts of this movie that I don’t think were handled well, I will always love that this movie introduced my favorite character of all time - Wanda.
And even if it's not the greatest, quality-wise, it's best attribute imo is all the little foreshadowings and set-ups that it creates for the future Black Panther and vibranium, seeds of discord between the Avengers, greater focus on the Infinity Stones as a whole, Wanda herself, and so forth
@@DavidLudaka I mean, ‘technically’ that’s true. But she doesn’t even speak in the post credits scene. That hardly counts as a proper introduction for the character. It’s more of a tease.
I love how petty Thor was in that party scene. When Tony kept insisting that it was all in his "fingerprints" and stuff, he then makes a big show of grasping it with his *palm* to rub in the fact that he's the only worthy one. Great reaction again, you guys!!
I actually love this movie so much. It's one of my favourite ones. The concept, the ideals, the villain, more backstories to some of the team, Wanda, Vision, the humour. Ah, so good.
“You can’t force safety.” Correct. In a movie. You can’t force safety in a movie, because then the movie won’t happen. Jurassic Park would just be people riding around in a Jeep staring at empty jungles within concrete and electrified fence compounds.
This has to be satire. You can't force safety in real life either. Well, you can to an extent. That's what laws are for. But you have to always be careful not to go overboard. While personal freedom will always be sacrificed for safety and order, it's important to never go so far that freedom is taken away completely. Otherwise, you'll find yourself living in an authoritarian dystopia.
*I remember when this came out, people gave this movie crap. I think it’s great. Yeah it’s flawed, but James Spader was phenomenal as Ultron. Perfectly casted imo*
Honestly I like Ultron as the Avengers villain the most, Loki is cool and Thanos is awesome but Ultron is much more interesting, his motives are the best, his character is great, his voice is truely menacing and I love his design.
In my opinion Gorr and Zemo are my favorite villains. Their plans are really one of the best. And my favorite heroes are Dr strange, Scarlet Witch and Loki(if it counts) and Venom(but I think he's an anti hero tho)
James Spader, while undoubtedly a fantastic actor (he was what made The Blacklist watchable), he's of a completely different generation than Robert Redford. Redford was a major movie star from the fifties on. Spader only started in the eighties.
I wasn’t saying that, at least I didn’t mean to. I meant that the MCU got an actor actor, just like Redford. Of course Redford was much older but spader was in some classic 80s films
They didn't ignore the previous Iron Man. Tony was trying to be ready for anything and became obsessed. These were made to be drones, a means of minimizing civilian casualties by getting people out of the area. As for his plan to stop invasions, he's not talking control. He's talking a means of defens ein case the next aliens to show up are equally hostile. A means to fight a battle he knows will eventually come. And it does.
41:38 Yes, the fact that it acknowledges the danger to civilians is definitely one of my favourite parts. This movie came out in the wake of _Man of Steel,_ and I always saw that aspect as a deliberate counter to it, reinforcing the criticism that Superman seemed totally unconcerned about collateral damage.
Bruce Banner used to be engaged to Dr. Betty Ross, the daughter of retired General & current Sec. of Defense Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Ross. Iron Man #44, aka the “Hulkbuster”, was given the code name “Veronica”. It’s a reference to two characters from the Archie comics: Betty & Veronica.
that moment when hulk gets sad after he sees everyone running away will always stick with me. hulks best moments are when they give him his own personality which is why I loved him here and in ragnarok
9:12 Almost all villains that face they Avengers, their plan is to tear them apart, which works because well they're a pretty dysfunctional team from the start. They get closer and closer to actually do it until Civil War. The only one who didn't try that was Thanos because he had no time for that.
I really love the relationship between Hawkeye and Wanda and the fact that he was the one who technically made her an Avenger. And they say this is the weakest Avengers movie but i love that this one really showcases the teamwork for most duration of the movie.
I personally have no idea why marvel fans dislike this movie bc no matter how many times I watch it…I just love it 😂😂 it gives me everything I could want in a comic book movie while progressing the greater marvel storyline sooo idk I just never understood why it was so disliked
There's a wonderful blink-and-you'll-miss-it deep Marvel continuity shot in this movie: when Tony's choosing which AI chip to add to his new suit now that Jarvis has ascended to life, one of the chips in the pile is labelled 'TADASHI'.
My favourite hero is here! Vision woohoo! I really like Age of Ultron. It was cool to have a villian of the hero's own making. The solution is of the hero's own making again, which is crazy. And a whole town... in the sky. That is a real Avenger level threat.
I loved seeing Natasha & Bruce's relationship in this film - I really wish we could hv seen them explore that relationship further in the future of the MCU films.
Pietro was such an interesting and funny character (w/ an amazing power). Despite how well they handled it, I can't help but still feel disappointed that they killed him off in this film lol - it would've been cool to see him in the other MCU films.
My Marvel journey with the exception of Thor and Guardians started with Wandavision. After that TVshow (I really do hope you will react to that as well), I have decided to watch other Marvel movies in chronological order. So having first seen Wandavision and then coming back to Avengers, and then Age of Ultron, I have to very hesitantly say that I think I enjoyed AoU more than first Avengers (I know - crazy). So I think it is really about perspective, about what it introduced to you first.
@@ericlopez5218 My Twitter feed was always full with Wandavision content so I decided to check it, became supper obsessed and then went back to the watch the rest of MCU.
Aou was my least favorite avengers movie but after watching wandavision and civil war, I really came to appreciated it a lot cause it ties well so much with the conflict of team work between members, their past and the basics of infinity stones.
The difference between Tony Stark and Steve Rogers is the difference between Intelligence and Wisdom. A person can be the smartest person in the world but that doesn't stop them from making poor, rash decisions. Tony does not listen to others because he thinks he's smarter than them. Wisdom allows you to see past one's own ego to see the consequences of your actions and those of others. You see the morality of situations to figure out what you should do (wisdom) as opposed to what you can do (intelligence).
Ultron is my favorite MCU villain, he's so interesting. The way he acts so much like Tony, all the sass and sarcasm, but hates him so much. I love how much they played on the fact he's lowkey Tony's son if he's technically "a person", or even just a consciousness.
This was the very first avengers film I ever saw. We went to a drive-in theatre on a whim. It makes so much more sense now after actually knowing the characters.
Pietro Maximoff was played by Aaron Johnson. No stranger to playing a superhero, you might enjoy to watch him playing the title role in "Kick Ass" and its sequel "Kick Ass 2." I know they're favorites of mine.
11:26 Always love seeing the guy in the background, absolutely _paralyzed_ by his first sip. 39:14 Cap gives the best speeches, but Hawkeye gives the best humanity. 43:25 At least this one seeks shelter, unlike the _usual_ Rescue Kenny. (I think the worst one I've ever seen belongs to _Volcano;_ brainless little moppet staggers down the street, crying, hands over ears, _directly towards the massive explosions going off in front of him._ Don't care how young he is, that's "get burned, stick hand right back into the fire, repeat" levels of stupid.)
Can y’all react to The the Xmen universe in order? Some of the greatest superhero movies such as.. Xmen First Class, Xmen Days Of future Past and Logan. You’ll love it!!
I really like this movie, but theres one scene that honestly makes me more pissed off every time I watch it. When Bruce doesn't think they can have a future together because he could turn into a uncontrollable rage monster at any time, Natasha tells him she's a monster too because she was sterilized, against her will. Not that she's a monster because she's killed people, probably innocents, as a Russian assassin. No, not being unable to have kids is where she gets hung up on whether she's worthy of being a hero. "I could kill you on accident, Hulk is uncontrollable. I'm literally a monster" "I'm a monster too. I can't have kids." WHAT?!
It wasn’t intended as a comment on her being sterile, though I don’t blame you at all for taking it that way. It was meant as a comment of what she had done in her past and in the red room, Joss Whedon’s execution of it was just super clumsy
@@natt3975 I mean he only wrote their "relationship" for his own fantasy, the nerd with the hot girl. It should never have happened, especially considering they never really touched on it in the later movies. But also it was poorly done.
Frankly, this is my favorite Avengers movies. It has more interesting ideas than most of the others...like you said, it gets more philosophical than the first one. Personally, I love that Tony goes back with the intent of creating Vision over everyone's objections, because that's what science does. We didn't shut down the space program after the tragedy of Apollo 10, or the Challenger disaster. We learn from it and keep going and improve lives. I love that Ultron acts like Tony and seems not to notice it himself, though the people around him pick up on it. It's a solid film. Oh, and the scene of them all trying to pick up Thor's hammer was hilarious, because that's absolutely something those guys would get around to trying at some point.
Grew up watching this movie and I love it I actually pity ultron a lot and I think he loved Wanda just by how much he seemed to care about her especially the end before she ripped his heart out and I believe that's why vision ends up falling in love with Wanda
James Spader is the best villain performance in MCU. Thanos is the best villain character, but James’ performance elevated the movie to another level. And Age Of Ultron grows on me by each viewing. Now it’s in the top 5 best Marvel movies.
Fun story: I caught a 30min bus to the opening of this here in NZ. In a full Black Widow cosplay. Complete with very realistic looking plastic guns and real shell casings wrapped around my wrist. Was the most quiet bus ride I've ever been on 😂
@@whitenoisereacts I wish! I just do it for Armageddon (NZs version of Comic Con) and the occasional Film Premier 😎 My favorite cosplay has always been Black Widow. Little girls get really excited to see me and call me "Miss Widow", and then I help the make their best "beat the baddie face" for photos. It's the highlight of my year ☺️
He destroyed his suits because he spent way too much time designing each one. Now he has machines create robots that are all the same, is less time consuming and would still leave plenty of time for Pepper.
Apart from the new shows, you should check out Agent Carter and Agents of Shield both are fun action series with AOS being the darker of the two though still a lot of fun! And then we have 2 of the best shows ever made The Punisher, Jon Bernthal is as perfectly cast as RDJ was as Stark; and lastly Daredevil which I actively avoided until I decided to watch it because it introduces The Punisher and was blown away! Most of the fight scenes in Daredevil are right up there with the best action movies, not only that but both series dive deep into the psychology, torment, turmoil and existential hell the characters live with. I honestly can't recommend Daredevil and The Punisher enough.
@@trevorthornley8835 Does he need a point? He is one of the pillars of the Avengers. Why would he not be in this? Not to mention he literally had his own movie before this.
@@Kjf365 characters need to do something important in the movie they're in, otherwise why have them? Whenever they cut to Steve Rodgers talking about anything in this movie, it's a waste of time. Time you could spend on developing the story, plot, or characters. Something this movie desperately needed to do...
With Ultron, the only reason why ultron was created is cause wanda showed him his worst fear. him being unable to save his friends and he being the only one left alive. she used that and then he got paranoid again and started building. he wanted to prevent that illusion from happening so he started ultron, but with the scepter near it, ultron completed himself. Ultron is a mix of Wanda, Tony, Bruce and the Scepter yet everyone places the blame on tony when others had a hand in it.
If you guys wanna watch more of Shield, I suggest Agents of Shield series. Although only season one and probably season two that followed the MCU storyline. It's a really good show imo.
In case you are confused Tony blowing up his Iron Man suits was his way of moving on from his ptsd obssession, every night he lost sleep and made an armour. It was basically step 1 in retiring. The Iron Legion is step 2 in having suit of armour protect the plant in case the Avengers need to retire. Tinkering with A.I. is his way to have something control those suits. The reason he suited up again as Iron Man is because they needed to take care of the Hydra problem that resulted from Winter Soldier
i don't think it's lack of continuity. it makes sense for tony to keep making more and more suits to protect himself and the world due to ptsd from the events in the first avengers movie, and the third iron man movie hardly proved that idea wrong, considering he basically only survived and defeated his opponent because of his suits
@@whitenoisereacts true. it could be lack of continuity, there's definitely basis for that, but it's not a definitive loophole and it could still be explained that while he stopped obsessively experimenting on new suits and storing them where he lives, he could have still put effort in fortifying the whole country's security (his best friend being part of the military another inclination). if anything, it's realistic that both his healthy fear and his paranoia didn't just go out the window cause he didn't want to worry the woman he loves. it had to have remained, but perhaps he just channeled it differently
Tony destroyed his suits at the end of Iron Man 3 because his contract was up and that might have been his last MCU movie. But they left the ending sort of open ended because he was in negotiations to sign a new contract, which he eventually did.
I learned to appreciate that movie after WandaVision tbh, idk why but I loved it even more after it ; also watched this in theaters too, first Marvel movie in there, then I watched Endgame too lastly
I think the theme was more about the Avengers putting their resentment behind them in order to become worthy or using that resentment to create something better than what they have now. That's why Ultron who was created in secret out of Tony's fear that he can't control the future turned out the way he did, and Vision who's created from Tony's desire to protect the world, Thor's lightening and the same material as Cap's shield is worthy of lifting Mjolnir.
I really like Age of Ultron. It's not an origin story, it's not the end. It's just the Avengers being the Avengers and we really only got one of those.
Wow, you put exactly why I love this movie into the perfect words
Facts
I think people were just expecting something more complex from this one, coming off of heavy films in phase 2 like Winter Soldier and Ironman 3. It's not a bad movie by any means
not to mention how much it set up for infinity war and endgame
Took the words right out of my mouth. That's what i loved about this one.
Most realistic part of this movie was Ultron spending 20 seconds on the internet and deciding it's probably for the best to kill us all.
Lol.🤣
Hawkeye named his son "Nathaniel Pietro Barton" after the 2 people that saved his life
I would too if he was the reason I was able to go home and be able to name my kid lol.
@@Kjf365 especially since this was his retirement mission
An underrated ultron line is "I think you're confusing peace with quiet."
Definitely
Love the appreciation of Hawkeye. I usually see people disliking him for no real reason and for something that wasn’t his fault.
Indeed
he's bland, all he does is shoot arrows and he doesn't get a lot of screen time showing him doing cool things and defeating strong enemies, it's not peoples fault for disliking him honestly. But I think he will get a bit more popular when his own show comes out
@@yeetus8870 With that reasoning I can understand ppl being indifferent abt him, but I don’t understand ppl disliking him. I’m not frustrated abt the Hawkeye hate though, I just find it somewhat confusing. In the end, however, I say let ppl like and dislike whatever they want, whether I find it rational or not.
@@yeetus8870 by that logic, Widow should too
If she wasn't Scarlett Johansson but an average girl, she'd have no different reaction to, especially from my fella guys
Never totally liked her version, Olsen is my fav MCU actress
@@leonardolonghi3472 When I bring up that comparision people try to tell me Natasha was in Iron Man 2... then remind them that Clint was in Thor... which they completely forgot about.
I love how James is constantly looking at Nine to see if he's enjoying the film as same as himself hahaha
Me when I show my friends a movie I liked
Same
totally relatable!
So I realised how much they relied on Jarvis. Once Jarvis was taken out, they didn't even sense Ultron coming until the audio feedback and when he approached them. They might not have realised what had happened until maybe later that night or the next day if he had just took off there and then.
This movie was always meant to be the Avengers as one complete, experienced team fighting and beating the bad guy. It gets a lot of shit but honestly its a great movie in the MCU and has a lot of great moments throughout.
Oh yeah for sure, and without it we wouldn't get the hilarious and honestly iconic , party scene lol.
He Says, “Is that like a VISION.”
Me: MIND BLOWN at the deep theme of the word in this film. Amazing 🤩
I like how Age of Ultron acted as a character study for all the members of the avengers. Previously, I found that a lot of superhero movies before the Spider-Man trilogy had their hero’s reach their self actualization after their initial/origin film. And I appreciate how marvel shows the consequences of the characters choice to be a hero and their experiences in their initial film. I find that DC has a nasty habit of having their hero’s overcome their biggest challenges in their first film which leaves very little storytelling potential for future movies.
I like how flawed the marvel characters are. Their turmoil and emotional journeys throughout the rest of the movies is very well handled and builds conflict without sacrificing the true nature of the character. I especially enjoy how becoming a hero didn’t make Tony or Steve unwavering, morally perfect people. They are still fundamentally who they have always been but their experiences as hero’s takes a toll on their ideals as well as their emotional well being. I like that these characters don’t grow in a straight upward direction.
Thank you for saying this because I always thought the same thing but didn't realise that that was what I thought EXACTLY, nor did I know how to begin to express that thought. I too believe that this was a great movie for that reason and don't understand why it gets so much ..hate? no that's too strong a word ...strong dislike? , but never knew how to explain why it is in fact a great move so thank you for taking the time to explain what us AOU fans have been thinking for years.
Ps. this was actually when I first heard of Marvel movies outside of the Raimi Spiderman and 2000's XMen movies , when trailers for this movie (AOU) were airing.
Iron man never did. He became a transhuman cryptofascist with PTSD that only managed a semblance of normal life in the wake of the apocalypse that was his worst nightmare. Which I guess is an arc. He still made a personal murder satellite and gave it to a 15 year old kid.
@@Souledex I’m not condoning Tony’s actions. There are many times throughout the movies where I despise tony for his actions. I only meant that his character progression was realistic and made sense for who he is as a person. Tony is self-centred, a control freak, and a narcissist. I appreciated how his negative traits didn’t disappear once he became a hero. If anything his PTSD and fear of facing an unbeatable threat only exacerbated his negative traits. When tony was finally confronted with the inevitability of his own mortality he tried changing the world around him instead of realizing that the world is the same as it’s always been, he’s the one who’s changed. The world has always been in potential danger and always will be, but Tony can’t except that or live with the fear and anxiety it brings him. So his decision to have the avengers overseen by the government makes sense. I don’t agree with it, but I understand why Tony makes the decisions that he does. Which is how I know these are well written characters.
There's no lack of continuity (at least as far as Iron Man is concerned in this movie)Tony never intended to stop being Iron Man. Him destroying the suits at the end of his third movie was him overcoming his PTSD and OCD and showing to Pepper that she genuinely meant more to him than they did.
He literally said that he is (still) Iron Man at the end but people still act like him destroying the 30 + hyper specific suits he made under sleep deprivation from his PTSD means he would never put on a suit again.
@@kaybaumann4989 Exactly... Also he explains in this movie that the Avengers are not gonna be around forever, eventually they need to go home(retire). The Iron Legion is like the first steps to that goal. But this Ultron setback makes him rethink that solution
@@markcruz359 he also stated those first 42 suits were a cocoon
When a butterfly comes out of a coccon, it doesn't keep it
@@leonardolonghi3472 also they were solutions to every possible scenarios they come into contact with.
the actors playing the twins, appeared together in another movie just the year before: Godzilla (2014) as a married couple!
Sweet home Alabama
*banjo music intensifies*
@@clairem391 Godzilla came before this so 😂
@@clairem391 I knew this was gonna happen 😂
In Iron Man 3, Stark says he is going to cut down on building his suits. The clean slate protocol to destroy all his suits is to show Pepper how much he cares for her and that he has to find another way to deal with his PTSD.
I agree, the point was to show that he didn’t need the suits, not that he was done with them. Still, it definitely seems like a discontinuity to go from the end of Iron Man 3 to this movie.
@@dmidkif SPOILERS-
Civil War makes mention of this
And those were not suits, you couldn’t wear one, they were not made for combat, that’s why in the beginning when you see one that it’s just warning everyone to stay back. Tony never said he was retiring or not going to be Iron Man anymore, just cut back.
@@Adrianne519 did you not even watch that movie? you could wear ALL OF THEM multiple ones of them opened up for him to get inside of and got destroyed instantly
To me, Age Of Ultron was the bridge between the first Avengers, and the next Captain America movie..... the themes of right and wrong, of becoming the problem you seek to defeat, does power need regulation, are ones that come full circle in the next Cap movie.
This was a nice tight package of a story, but it's real purpose is just to tease those themes that becomes so important later in the MCU. In that aspect, I think this film was a HUGE success. Though, Quicksilver would have been able to get Clint and that kid out of the way without getting hit by any of the bullets.... at least in the comics.
What made Marvel "Marvel" was the fact that they dealt with the fact that these folks also had real lives, families and problems outside of the villain. It's what gave them heart and helped move comic books into the respected artform that they are today.
Carry On!!
I'll never understand why people like to shit on this movie. It accomplishes everything it's trying to be - the plot, the characters and their motivation, the cinematography, the soundtrack, the fun and jokes, the message - it has it all.
I personally love it tbh 🤷♀️ I don’t get why so many hate it
Generally, people thought the main baddy didn't really live up to expectation, and the movie tried a bit too hard to tease upcoming sequels, which is best left for a mid/post credits scene.
The problem was right when the trailer for this movie released, Marvel announced the entirety of Phase 3.
So everyone was looking forward to Civil War and Infinity War and therefore this movie felt like filler.
I personally really enjoyed the movie.
It's because this movie wasn't trying to be anything. Hank Pym is Ultron's creator in the comics, and the story for this movie was completely changed for no reason other than to accommodate Edgar Wright's Ant Man script, which was never meant to be in the MCU and prevented Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne from being in the Avengers.
@@markamanic Ultron works better as Hank Pym's creation, not Tony Stark's.
Concerning Hawkeye... in the MCU, him and Natasha are two of my favorite characters. Not because they are the best characters in a comparison type of way, but because here you have Gods like Thor, Hulk, Vision, super powered humans like Captain America, Wanda, tech genius' like Tony Stark... and in the middle of it you have two regular humans, albeit at the 'top of their game' on the world stage, but still only human, who rely on their skill set to stand beside the others and fight world shattering threats.
To the others, every fight with beings like Ultron, is a challenge with moderate risk... it's not like Ultron was ever going to kill Hulk, or Thor... but Hawkeye and Natasha, fights at this level are very potentially lethal for them, and they still hold their own - which to me is deserving of the most respect in these films.
Fax, I was young enough to dress up for Halloween when the avengers came out and I went as him.
I was sad when half the houses had to ask who I was lol.
Pietro's death always gets me...Wanda suffered so much 😔 He was the last member of her family
I remember not liking this film that much when I first saw it, but in hindsight it’s way better than I thought prior
One thing I remember being super confused about, which seems to be consistent, was the love story between Black Widow and Hulk. But after rewatching avengers & their backstories, I totally get why it happened.
Not only is it following the other 4 films prior but this is also a directed sequel to the first Avengers and they were completely setting them up in that movie. She was the first one he met and recruited him, she is the first one on the team to see him turn into Hulk, she is the one that almost gets his wrath and has anyone notice her slight worry in CATWS when Sitwell called out his name when asked who was going to be a target?
There's a number of MCU movies that I've liked more each time I watched it. This one definitely.
Although I really didn't like the whole 'losing my uterus/ovaries makes me a monster' set up. I mean... ugh.
I still don't buy the Black Widow Bruce Banner love story. Nat had way more chemistry with Steve just watch the Winter Soldier again.
@@wtimmins I think she didn’t meant ‘losing hey uterus’ made her a monster, but the meaning behind it. The red room took apart that choice from her just to make easier her job as an assassin, that’s why she thinks herself as a monster, because of the things she did.
As much as there are parts of this movie that I don’t think were handled well, I will always love that this movie introduced my favorite character of all time - Wanda.
And even if it's not the greatest, quality-wise, it's best attribute imo is all the little foreshadowings and set-ups that it creates for the future
Black Panther and vibranium, seeds of discord between the Avengers, greater focus on the Infinity Stones as a whole, Wanda herself, and so forth
Boring 😂😂
@@sastaassh1112 shut up
nah winter soldier did actually
@@DavidLudaka I mean, ‘technically’ that’s true. But she doesn’t even speak in the post credits scene. That hardly counts as a proper introduction for the character. It’s more of a tease.
Tony was always a control freak, it's his greatest weakness. Fun Fact - The Helicarrier turns up in Deadpool in the scrap yard scene.
Yep. James Spader was a great choice for Ultron.
I love how petty Thor was in that party scene. When Tony kept insisting that it was all in his "fingerprints" and stuff, he then makes a big show of grasping it with his *palm* to rub in the fact that he's the only worthy one. Great reaction again, you guys!!
I actually love this movie so much. It's one of my favourite ones. The concept, the ideals, the villain, more backstories to some of the team, Wanda, Vision, the humour. Ah, so good.
Wanda's evolution from here on out is gonna be phenomenal.
“You can’t force safety.”
Correct. In a movie. You can’t force safety in a movie, because then the movie won’t happen. Jurassic Park would just be people riding around in a Jeep staring at empty jungles within concrete and electrified fence compounds.
Frankly, Jurassic Park was fairly safe. It goes wrong because it was deliberately sabotaged, not because zoos inherently don't work.
This has to be satire. You can't force safety in real life either. Well, you can to an extent. That's what laws are for. But you have to always be careful not to go overboard. While personal freedom will always be sacrificed for safety and order, it's important to never go so far that freedom is taken away completely. Otherwise, you'll find yourself living in an authoritarian dystopia.
*I remember when this came out, people gave this movie crap. I think it’s great. Yeah it’s flawed, but James Spader was phenomenal as Ultron. Perfectly casted imo*
Tony didn't go back on his actions in Iron Man 3. He destroyed all the suits he made while he was scared. He started over from a new perspective.
Ultron also keeps building bodies to hide his insecurity just like Tony was in Iron Man 3.
Stan Lee saying "Excelsior" which mean "ever upward" was his sign off in his comics but later became the motto for his life 😭
Honestly I like Ultron as the Avengers villain the most, Loki is cool and Thanos is awesome but Ultron is much more interesting, his motives are the best, his character is great, his voice is truely menacing and I love his design.
I wish he had lasted a bit longer. Maybe over a few movies
@@whitenoisereacts true, but maybe he will return.
In my opinion Gorr and Zemo are my favorite villains. Their plans are really one of the best. And my favorite heroes are Dr strange, Scarlet Witch and Loki(if it counts) and Venom(but I think he's an anti hero tho)
@@cisarvitiate the movie made him VERY dirty
A proper Ultron can be seen in multiple animated stuff, like Avengers EHM and Next Avengers
For me it goes
Ultron : he is cool
Loki : he is funny
And then thanks he is cool but not as cool as the others
Welcome to Ultron played by James Spader also introducing the Maximoff twins played by Elizabeth Olsen and Evan Peters
LOL
James Spader, while undoubtedly a fantastic actor (he was what made The Blacklist watchable), he's of a completely different generation than Robert Redford. Redford was a major movie star from the fifties on. Spader only started in the eighties.
"classical actor" made me laugh :)
I wasn’t saying that, at least I didn’t mean to. I meant that the MCU got an actor actor, just like Redford. Of course Redford was much older but spader was in some classic 80s films
He didn’t start in the MCU like Chris evans or Chris hemsworth
They didn't ignore the previous Iron Man. Tony was trying to be ready for anything and became obsessed. These were made to be drones, a means of minimizing civilian casualties by getting people out of the area.
As for his plan to stop invasions, he's not talking control. He's talking a means of defens ein case the next aliens to show up are equally hostile. A means to fight a battle he knows will eventually come. And it does.
41:38 Yes, the fact that it acknowledges the danger to civilians is definitely one of my favourite parts. This movie came out in the wake of _Man of Steel,_ and I always saw that aspect as a deliberate counter to it, reinforcing the criticism that Superman seemed totally unconcerned about collateral damage.
'a thing isn't beautiful because it lasts' is one of my favorite lines ever.
Bruce Banner used to be engaged to Dr. Betty Ross, the daughter of retired General & current Sec. of Defense Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Ross.
Iron Man #44, aka the “Hulkbuster”, was given the code name “Veronica”. It’s a reference to two characters from the Archie comics: Betty & Veronica.
Oh that’s funny!! I like that
The title card transition in this movie is the best of the avengers movies easily🔥
I am always so excited to see people's reactions to Wanda aka my favorite avenger
that moment when hulk gets sad after he sees everyone running away will always stick with me. hulks best moments are when they give him his own personality which is why I loved him here and in ragnarok
9:12 Almost all villains that face they Avengers, their plan is to tear them apart, which works because well they're a pretty dysfunctional team from the start. They get closer and closer to actually do it until Civil War.
The only one who didn't try that was Thanos because he had no time for that.
I really love the relationship between Hawkeye and Wanda and the fact that he was the one who technically made her an Avenger.
And they say this is the weakest Avengers movie but i love that this one really showcases the teamwork for most duration of the movie.
Yeah. Also, it’s the weakest avengers movie but that don’t mean it’s not good
@@whitenoisereacts This is true i think it fit perfectly for a 2nd film. Can't wait for you guys to watch the rest!! Love the reactions as always 💪🏽💯
been waiting for this one, im a huge fan of ultron
I personally have no idea why marvel fans dislike this movie bc no matter how many times I watch it…I just love it 😂😂 it gives me everything I could want in a comic book movie while progressing the greater marvel storyline sooo idk I just never understood why it was so disliked
easy. Killing off quick silver and Bruce and Natasha romance that's all.
There's a wonderful blink-and-you'll-miss-it deep Marvel continuity shot in this movie: when Tony's choosing which AI chip to add to his new suit now that Jarvis has ascended to life, one of the chips in the pile is labelled 'TADASHI'.
OMG I never noticed that! Aww
My favourite hero is here! Vision woohoo!
I really like Age of Ultron. It was cool to have a villian of the hero's own making. The solution is of the hero's own making again, which is crazy. And a whole town... in the sky. That is a real Avenger level threat.
I loved seeing Natasha & Bruce's relationship in this film - I really wish we could hv seen them explore that relationship further in the future of the MCU films.
and so wanda's journey begins...
Pietro was such an interesting and funny character (w/ an amazing power). Despite how well they handled it, I can't help but still feel disappointed that they killed him off in this film lol - it would've been cool to see him in the other MCU films.
Funny how you mentioned mutants at the beginning of the video. Since, mutants don’t officially exist in the MCU, as of yet.💜
Wanda didn't make Tony like that, she just pulled out what was already there
My Marvel journey with the exception of Thor and Guardians started with Wandavision. After that TVshow (I really do hope you will react to that as well), I have decided to watch other Marvel movies in chronological order. So having first seen Wandavision and then coming back to Avengers, and then Age of Ultron, I have to very hesitantly say that I think I enjoyed AoU more than first Avengers (I know - crazy). So I think it is really about perspective, about what it introduced to you first.
Wow you started off with Wandavision? That's super unique. I do feel like it builds really well on AoU and Infinity War
They are already reacted to Wandavision
@@ericlopez5218 My Twitter feed was always full with Wandavision content so I decided to check it, became supper obsessed and then went back to the watch the rest of MCU.
@@lmaoez8785 oh, I just checked it - you are right.
Aou was my least favorite avengers movie but after watching wandavision and civil war, I really came to appreciated it a lot cause it ties well so much with the conflict of team work between members, their past and the basics of infinity stones.
One of my favorite exchanges of the films.
“Ultron.” “My Vision.”
Such emotion in so few words.
The difference between Tony Stark and Steve Rogers is the difference between Intelligence and Wisdom. A person can be the smartest person in the world but that doesn't stop them from making poor, rash decisions. Tony does not listen to others because he thinks he's smarter than them. Wisdom allows you to see past one's own ego to see the consequences of your actions and those of others. You see the morality of situations to figure out what you should do (wisdom) as opposed to what you can do (intelligence).
Ultron is my favorite MCU villain, he's so interesting. The way he acts so much like Tony, all the sass and sarcasm, but hates him so much. I love how much they played on the fact he's lowkey Tony's son if he's technically "a person", or even just a consciousness.
This was the very first avengers film I ever saw. We went to a drive-in theatre on a whim. It makes so much more sense now after actually knowing the characters.
Pietro Maximoff was played by Aaron Johnson. No stranger to playing a superhero, you might enjoy to watch him playing the title role in "Kick Ass" and its sequel "Kick Ass 2." I know they're favorites of mine.
11:26 Always love seeing the guy in the background, absolutely _paralyzed_ by his first sip.
39:14 Cap gives the best speeches, but Hawkeye gives the best humanity.
43:25 At least this one seeks shelter, unlike the _usual_ Rescue Kenny. (I think the worst one I've ever seen belongs to _Volcano;_ brainless little moppet staggers down the street, crying, hands over ears, _directly towards the massive explosions going off in front of him._ Don't care how young he is, that's "get burned, stick hand right back into the fire, repeat" levels of stupid.)
james spader is insane in this movie
Indeed, he can't stop thinking about that Vision thing.
Can y’all react to The the Xmen universe in order?
Some of the greatest superhero movies such as.. Xmen First Class, Xmen Days Of future Past and Logan.
You’ll love it!!
I love the Hawkeye appreciation
I really like this movie, but theres one scene that honestly makes me more pissed off every time I watch it. When Bruce doesn't think they can have a future together because he could turn into a uncontrollable rage monster at any time, Natasha tells him she's a monster too because she was sterilized, against her will. Not that she's a monster because she's killed people, probably innocents, as a Russian assassin. No, not being unable to have kids is where she gets hung up on whether she's worthy of being a hero.
"I could kill you on accident, Hulk is uncontrollable. I'm literally a monster" "I'm a monster too. I can't have kids." WHAT?!
Yeah, I think she meant she was a monster for killing and being who she was before the Avengers since she was talking about the Red Room.
It wasn’t intended as a comment on her being sterile, though I don’t blame you at all for taking it that way. It was meant as a comment of what she had done in her past and in the red room, Joss Whedon’s execution of it was just super clumsy
@@natt3975 I mean he only wrote their "relationship" for his own fantasy, the nerd with the hot girl. It should never have happened, especially considering they never really touched on it in the later movies. But also it was poorly done.
@@aspannas ikr I agree
@@aspannas He was literally gone for the next 4 movies lol. How were they going to touch more on it?
35:50 Ninetailedbrush's reaction was priceless
24:09 Steve actually have a deep dark secret, just wait
It's weird how this movie it's so important for the overall story of the MCU and yet everyone have forgot its existence
Frankly, this is my favorite Avengers movies. It has more interesting ideas than most of the others...like you said, it gets more philosophical than the first one. Personally, I love that Tony goes back with the intent of creating Vision over everyone's objections, because that's what science does. We didn't shut down the space program after the tragedy of Apollo 10, or the Challenger disaster. We learn from it and keep going and improve lives. I love that Ultron acts like Tony and seems not to notice it himself, though the people around him pick up on it. It's a solid film.
Oh, and the scene of them all trying to pick up Thor's hammer was hilarious, because that's absolutely something those guys would get around to trying at some point.
This was my first MCU film in theaters as well! I have such vivid memories of going with my friends.
I like this lower pitched version of Spader’s voice more. It makes Ultron more menacing but keeps the personality of his delivery too.
A fantastic movie. Highly underrated and unfairly criticized by many.
Steve almost picking up Mjolnir is honestly my favorite scene in this movie
Grew up watching this movie and I love it I actually pity ultron a lot and I think he loved Wanda just by how much he seemed to care about her especially the end before she ripped his heart out and I believe that's why vision ends up falling in love with Wanda
James Spader is the best villain performance in MCU. Thanos is the best villain character, but James’ performance elevated the movie to another level. And Age Of Ultron grows on me by each viewing. Now it’s in the top 5 best Marvel movies.
Fun story: I caught a 30min bus to the opening of this here in NZ. In a full Black Widow cosplay. Complete with very realistic looking plastic guns and real shell casings wrapped around my wrist. Was the most quiet bus ride I've ever been on 😂
Sounds legendary. DO you do that for a living?
@@whitenoisereacts I wish! I just do it for Armageddon (NZs version of Comic Con) and the occasional Film Premier 😎 My favorite cosplay has always been Black Widow. Little girls get really excited to see me and call me "Miss Widow", and then I help the make their best "beat the baddie face" for photos. It's the highlight of my year ☺️
He destroyed his suits because he spent way too much time designing each one. Now he has machines create robots that are all the same, is less time consuming and would still leave plenty of time for Pepper.
I'm so sad...no one seems to ever show my favorite Barton line, he & Nat in the car, and his "I know what I need to do" speech.
About the avengers having to much power, we'll see more of that in the last captain america, thats all im gonna say
Apart from the new shows, you should check out Agent Carter and Agents of Shield both are fun action series with AOS being the darker of the two though still a lot of fun! And then we have 2 of the best shows ever made The Punisher, Jon Bernthal is as perfectly cast as RDJ was as Stark; and lastly Daredevil which I actively avoided until I decided to watch it because it introduces The Punisher and was blown away! Most of the fight scenes in Daredevil are right up there with the best action movies, not only that but both series dive deep into the psychology, torment, turmoil and existential hell the characters live with. I honestly can't recommend Daredevil and The Punisher enough.
Can we all just agree that the best part of this movie is sassy Steve Rogers?
yes absolutely
No. Steve isn't tony stark. Also he was completely pointless in this movie
I agree sis. And people say Steve doesn't have a personality lol
@@trevorthornley8835 Does he need a point? He is one of the pillars of the Avengers. Why would he not be in this? Not to mention he literally had his own movie before this.
@@Kjf365 characters need to do something important in the movie they're in, otherwise why have them? Whenever they cut to Steve Rodgers talking about anything in this movie, it's a waste of time. Time you could spend on developing the story, plot, or characters. Something this movie desperately needed to do...
With Ultron, the only reason why ultron was created is cause wanda showed him his worst fear. him being unable to save his friends and he being the only one left alive. she used that and then he got paranoid again and started building. he wanted to prevent that illusion from happening so he started ultron, but with the scepter near it, ultron completed himself. Ultron is a mix of Wanda, Tony, Bruce and the Scepter yet everyone places the blame on tony when others had a hand in it.
If you guys wanna watch more of Shield, I suggest Agents of Shield series. Although only season one and probably season two that followed the MCU storyline. It's a really good show imo.
I love your reactions!!! You should react to the movie “now you see me” (1 and 2)
It would be really good
In case you are confused Tony blowing up his Iron Man suits was his way of moving on from his ptsd obssession, every night he lost sleep and made an armour. It was basically step 1 in retiring.
The Iron Legion is step 2 in having suit of armour protect the plant in case the Avengers need to retire. Tinkering with A.I. is his way to have something control those suits.
The reason he suited up again as Iron Man is because they needed to take care of the Hydra problem that resulted from Winter Soldier
i don't think it's lack of continuity. it makes sense for tony to keep making more and more suits to protect himself and the world due to ptsd from the events in the first avengers movie, and the third iron man movie hardly proved that idea wrong, considering he basically only survived and defeated his opponent because of his suits
But he promised pepper he was done. That was the whole point of the movie. Putting her above himself
@@whitenoisereacts true. it could be lack of continuity, there's definitely basis for that, but it's not a definitive loophole and it could still be explained that while he stopped obsessively experimenting on new suits and storing them where he lives, he could have still put effort in fortifying the whole country's security (his best friend being part of the military another inclination). if anything, it's realistic that both his healthy fear and his paranoia didn't just go out the window cause he didn't want to worry the woman he loves. it had to have remained, but perhaps he just channeled it differently
you guys are 1 of the many reactors i watch, but you are my favs!
Hey, pay attention to when Fury is cutting that sandwich. The way he cuts it, there is a line in Captain Marvel that reveals this Fury is a fake.
If your curious how they got shield back and a new helicarrier, you have to watch agents of shield. Love this movie!
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Should check out Wanda (Olsen) and Hawkeye (Renner) in the movie Wind River.
Tony destroyed his suits at the end of Iron Man 3 because his contract was up and that might have been his last MCU movie. But they left the ending sort of open ended because he was in negotiations to sign a new contract, which he eventually did.
This is my favorite avengers movie .
In almost every version of the hulkbuster vs hulk, it always seems to lose an arm all the time.
I learned to appreciate that movie after WandaVision tbh, idk why but I loved it even more after it ; also watched this in theaters too, first Marvel movie in there, then I watched Endgame too lastly
first Marvel movie i ever saw in theaters too!! this one has a special place in my heart!!
Tony is a futuristic. U will see in future why Tony wanted to build ultron
"Huh, well like the old man said...TOGETHER."
- Tony Stark/Iron Man
i REALLY BELIEVE STARK has been right at every turn.
33:22 Whedon was definitely trying to make a theme about monsters in this movie but I don't think he handled it all that well
I think the theme was more about the Avengers putting their resentment behind them in order to become worthy or using that resentment to create something better than what they have now.
That's why Ultron who was created in secret out of Tony's fear that he can't control the future turned out the way he did, and Vision who's created from Tony's desire to protect the world, Thor's lightening and the same material as Cap's shield is worthy of lifting Mjolnir.
23:15 *Civil War foreshadowing intensifies* so ninetailedbrush will agree with Tony I see
I miss you 2 😭
This movie is set up so many things in the future Phase 3 movies.