every time young people express mental health issues they get accused of romanticising it. i think it's easier to accept that teens think trauma or depression is trendy, than that they're truly struggling and need support. if you tell yourself it's just a problematic trend, you can dismiss the real pain people experience.
I noticed that too. People in older generations don't get treated the same way. I don't see people accusing gen xers and baby boomers of "faking trauma" or "making a big deal out of nothing for attention" any time they talk about bad things that happened to them as children, but if someone in gen z vents, makes art about, or jokes about the exact same traumatic experience, suddenly their trauma either "isn't really that bad" or they're accused of "trauma dumping". Apparently we should only feel bad for older generations, because if it's someone young, their trauma apparently just isn't valid.
I honestly hope this attitude ends. I used to relate to vent posts a lot when I was younger, but when I saw the attitude towards them I thought to myself "I'm not actually mentally ill and I dont need therapy, I'm just stuck in an edgy phase". I was very very wrong, sometimes I wonder if I would've sought out help earlier if it wasn't for this attitude. If maybe I wouldn't have shamed my out of therapy by telling myself "by seeking out mental help just because you're edgy you're preventing people who actually need it from getting help" for so long.
I love this "aesthetic" I just hate how it's seen as some edgy bulshit made to glorify abuse and mental illness. I used it to cope. Creating art to express my pain instead of slashing it into my skin or starving body
I'm proud of you! It takes a lot of courage, self awareness, and wisdom to seek out and find a way to express yourself out loud instead of on your body. ❤ I hope you're doing better now. Love from a Granny Witch in the Appalachian Mountains ❤
I have a lot of trauma, it feels healthy to have a space where I can express it. The general population doesn't approve of having a traumatic childhood, they try to hide it. Trauma core feels like I'm being listened to and not get the "they tried their best" "there's no handbook" "that didn't happen". You don't need a hand book to be a decent person, you don't need a handbook to know not to hit your kids.
@WepcapStinkhorn literally jsut watched a video that mentioned the sfinkhorn mushroom and talked about how I made a mask of the mushroom and a character of it in my theatre class.
Man if I hear one more argument that’s just “this art shouldn’t be allowed because it makes me uncomfortable and the author is clearly endorsing the subject matter because there’s a cute thing in it” I’m going to walk into the lake and never come back
i dislike that people call anything a bad representation of trauma if it makes them uncomfortable. i’ve personally seen people on twitter make grape comics for the purpose of sexualizing trauma and for people to get their rocks off to grape. that is real romanticization of trauma. not trauma core.
Yep. The former (🍇comics) is exploitation of pain by out of touch nasty people who get off of people's suffering, the latter (traumacore) is venting pieces made by actual victims telling their own story.
@@ChristopherCapersJones Social media has basically banned any word that can even 'ellude' to terrible experiences, UA-cam doesn't even let their talents say that word in videos. You're likely to get shadow banned. They aren't making light of the situation they're getting around the censorship put in place by corporate that doesn't want to deal with the possible controversy of the topic being discussed.
I completely agree with you. I´m a psychiatric nurse, I work in a psychward. I am also diagnosed with bipolar disorder type 2, and have had an endless amount of depressive episodes throughout my life (I´m fine now, been on lamotrigine for almost two years and have not had a single episode of either depression or hypomania since then). When I was a teenager I used art as a form of expression. I supressed my feeling a lot, so I could never identify when I actually felt bad, I had no idea what I was feeling, so I just let my mind turn off and drew things that could probably be defined as traumacore. I never showed these to anyone, but they were my way of getting it out. It helped me avoid using worse cooping mechanisms. I know a lot of my patients do the same thing, especially patients with emotional instability (borderline disorder), and I see how much it helps them with regulation their feelings Therapy is almost always crucial too, and thankfully I live in a country where therapy is free. But in places where that is not the case, I think art is fantastic. And for people who are in therapy, I still think art is fantastic. Therapy is exhausting, efficient, but exhausting. Art is not. It can be a good way to let everything out in the moment, and if you trust your therapist enough, maybe you can show them your art, tell them how it felt when you made it, if you can identify what you were feeling before, during and after making it. It can help you make huge progress in your treatment. Also, I very much agree that these communities are usually very supportive. As someone who is EXTREMELY interested in psychiatry, I used to visit different subreddits similar to these, like for ED´s, ADHD and so on. Every post was filled with supportive comments and stories of people getting out of a bad place, and it was very nice to see. I believe these communities need to exist to some extent. Because people like this are usually very lonely (especially borderline patients, who often have a very hard time maintaning relationships). And to anyone going through something bad right now, as long as you have that little spark left it will get better. It may take years and years, but keep your spark and things will get better
Thank you so much for sharing your experiences and insights. I very much relate to and agree with everything you said. I also have multiple mental conditions (which I don't feel comfortable sharing) and I to this day struggle with recognizing my emotions, though after years of therapy I'm slowly getting better. And you're right, art helps so much with all of that. Once again, thank you for leaving such a wonderfully thoughtful comment, and I hope you'll continue to do well
Hi, vent art maker and diagnosed BPD and BP2 haver here. I literally could not have put my experience into better words if I tried. I’m almost 28 and I finally got diagnosed about a year and a half ago. Now I’m in therapy and on lamotrigine and aripiprazole. I spent YEARS, literally almost 18 years, waiting to get professional help, being told many things including: it’s not that bad you’ll figure it out on your own, you’re a lost cause who won’t help herself so why should I help you, you just need to find ways to cope on your own, I can recommend antidepressants but that’s all I can do for you, etc… I only got help after my fiancé took me to the hospital following a suicide attempt. He was the first person in my life to even really try to intervene. The doctors there got me into actual care. He’s helped me every step of the way. And after that it was like a floodgate… I told them I’d been SA by a neighbor at 8, I told them my mother used to hit me and blame me for all the problems in the household, that I’d had several friends and boyfriends physically abuse me, that I’d had at least 7 near death experiences, that I’d been homeless, that I’d been a hit and run victim, that I’d lost 4 children, as well as my father and 7 other close family members in just 5 years… I’d been through a lot and every time I tried to talk about it before then, I’d either not been able to get the words out or been tuned out by the people around me. I’m still kind of afraid to tell people I’m borderline bc there’s so much stigma around it. BUT the therapy art kept me alive for 18 years, and is something that’s still supplemental to my continued recovery. There needs to be more people like you, willing to understand and help people like me, and I can’t thank you enough for what you do.
Thank you for this comment ^^ I'm scared of drawing.. I love drawing but when I realized that I putting my mental struggles born from mental issues - psychotic depression with guilt delusion (I'm undiagnosed - I'm self-diagnosed) into my art and because I was called disturbing and weird because of relating to a fictional character in more dark way - because of similar mental issues.. Now I just have this mental block.. and depression making it hard to do anything doesn't help either.. But your comment is hopeful.. I think that I want to try to draw even if only for myself ❤ Thank you so much 💗
I recently got shamed a horrific amount, and got called things like insensitive and disgusting, for saying that I liked how my scars looked. And that to me, they were aesthetically pleasing now that I was in a healthier place. It is very frustrating for someone and others to be able to start endearing and embracing certain kinds of trauma, only for others to say that it’s fetishizing and glorifying serious mental illness. It is not insensitive to make your trauma an art form, and it is not insensitive to particularly enjoy that art.
People can like the visual of their (sh) scars without romanticising it, yet any positive remark can be misinterpretet as glamorizing, romantivising etc. its tiring :( (and if someone finds comfort in romanticising their own scars, thats not inherently bad eitjer is it? tons of coping mechanisms can be unhealthy but still better than the alternatives, and the healthiness of it depends on the individual anyway) i didnt mean to mansplain lmfao, i just relate n feel that other people think so black and white it ends up doing more harm than their "good intentions". i wish more people were open to genuinely learning
So sorry about that. I do commissions and I never turn down someone who asks for SH scars to be added to a personal character of theirs. It sucks that people feel like they need to ask that. Its not NSFW to have healed trauma. It's not wrong to have healed trauma. And it shouldn't be censored. That'd be like demanding someone cover their SH scars in public. Be proud of what you've lived through, not ashamed of what people think of it.
"Trauma core" is more an art movement than an aesthetic. I think it's an unpleasant truth we have to look dead in the eyes to make any progress on how we talk about trauma
How are you the second person in this thread saying this? Please explain how you can have visual art without aesthetics. Or maybe stop using buzzwords that you don't understand, lmao. No one knows what you people mean when you say "aesthetic", because it barely seems to relate to the actual meaning of the word
@@DaveGrean art movement needs too have some deeper philosophy in background. it wants the world too see something and too change ( or stop bad changes) it isnt something that was created for fun but too make people think. about their actions and path of humanity as whole.
I really want to know how do you find comfort in it? I have relatively little trauma so it could be that but I would love to know before to me trauma core makes me extremely uncomfortable and genuinely depressed so I would love to know why it comforts you :O (please don’t take this as rude if it sounds rude btw)
@@Emo_PuddingX3 I had a really traumatic childhood so looking at some traumacore images makes me feel less alone in this world. I also find comfort in pastel colors and certain imagery because despite my horrible past, some traumacore images give me a feeling of nostalgia!!
@@brandnewnumb5008 oh..(I’m sorry I don’t really know what to reply when people say they have had traumatic experiences) that sucks :( I’m glad things are better now! I’m just really interested in this stuff ig. I want to say I’m sorry you find nostalgia in some of these photos but I don’t at the same time. Idk.
@@Emo_PuddingX3 I also kinda want to add on to this despite this not being the person the question to was gear towards. To me, it feels like seeing my own thoughts, feelings, and fears portrayed back to me in an artistic way. It makes me both feel less alone and also understand my feelings a bit better, if that makes sense. It's like seeing these thoughts and feelings visualized.
actually, on the suffix -core point here's a fun fact: "-Core" derives from the french word "Cœur", which means heart. "-core" is the "heart" of a concept/event.
Actually the usage of -core as a suffix comes from hardcore punk. Most of its subgenres end in -core for that very reason (grindcore, metalcore, deathcore, ...). Then came hardcore rap, and the same thing happened to its subgenres (horrorcore, nerdcore), and then hardcore techno, same thing (speedcore, terrorcore, breakcore, ...). The suffix has always referred to 'hardcore' within the context of musical genres: specifically music that is very harsh, loud, or otherwise extreme compared to its non-hardcore counterpart. It's only in the past decade or so that confused Tumblr kids co-opted it to refer to their weird online subcultures that have nothing to do with music OR being extreme (I'm sorry but there is nothing 'hardcore' about fricking 'cottagecore' or whatever). IMO the -wave suffix, which said Tumblr crowd uses in the same manner, and also comes from musical genres (new wave, darkwave, ...), works much better since it's neutrally loaded and lacks the association with the 'hardcore' concept
@@DaveGrean that's alright with me, the sentiment is still very nice in my opinion :)) and thank you for the extra information in your earlier comment ^^
art can disturb those in peace, and comfort those disturbed there is such a feeling of anger and impotence when it comes to trauma, and i feel that making people cry in silence is what makes them feel so lonely and misunderstood, i understand the limits as someone who has been through trauma, but the victims have a right to express themselves with anger, with discomfort and with impotence, there is hope, and i wish anyone who has been through horrific events to find hope, but sometimes you can't keep making lemonade out of lemons, your hands will burn. as always, try to find profesional help, but if you can't, make art, and just make sure to not harm those who are hurt like you, there are things you can't control, so just focus on your individual responsability and take care
20:30 I actually had to break up with a girlfirend once because we were both depressed and her trying to help me while dealing with her own issues was making her worse. She knew this and wouldn't stop anyway becasue she carred about me. So I cut it off and I am happy to report that she is doing much better than she was back then.
this was my experience (from your gf's perspective) back in 2017-2018. I often wonder if he is ok, miss him and hope he received help. i feel immense guilt over breaking up with him even tho it was healthier for me to do that at the time. JCTlll (Charlie), if you're out there, M's doing okay. I hope you are too. -M
It's a way for the traumatized to show the untraumatized what it feels like. Lurk on the cptsd subreddit long enough and "normal" people right and left dismiss traumatized people. Society itself is designed to brush it off, so no wonder this "core" exists
I think this is definitely an element. When I write or draw im often trying to capture the pain im feeling. Not because I want to hurt anyone but because I just want someone else to understand, to actually see a part of me that the world doesnt want to acknowledge.
I’m about 5 minute in I genuinely think if it can help people cope then it’s okay, it can help showing others what you have gone through and help others understand what you feel
This is so thoughtful and thorough and I can’t get over how smart and sensitive and insightful it is. As a middle-aged person, it genuinely helped me to think about how I communicate with the teenagers in my life, and feels like something I could share with them that we could use to understand each other. Thank you.
I am so, so glad that my video could be a resource to you. I know how difficult relationships with teenagers are, especially with ones that are struggling. I think that the teens in your life are really lucky to have someone that is interested in understanding them and that wants to communicate well with them. Thank YOU for commenting and letting me know what you thought of my video. It is always so important to me to know how I impact my audience.
I have PTSD, and traumacore has done nothing but help me. I’m not good with words at all, and traumacore is like- the thoughts in my mind jotted down into paper for me to see. the same thoughts I have trouble understanding and putting into words PUT DOWN INTO WORDS AND IMAGES IN FRONT OF ME? it makes me feel understood and helps me process my thoughts.
I feel like traumacore is the perfect example of the saying "art comforts the disturbed and disturbs the comforted" It isn't for everyone by any means, but that doesn't mean we should take it from the people it is for.
A lot of people over hate on trauma core saying its romanticising it but it isn’t. Most people that say that are just bullying people with trauma and find comfort in trauma core
As someone who also found both comfort and fascination in traumacore due to abuse (even though traumacore seems to be mostly about sexual abuse) i also do believe that the way most mainstream social media plattforms like IG or TikTok are not the best place for it. Mostly due to no safety for people who do not want to participate (due to triggers) or shouldnt (too young children) still get content like this randomly flushed in through the algorithm. I mostly got in contact with subcultures like traumacore through tumblr, which was great because there is no algorithm and someone would only (mostly) see content like this when actively looking for it through texts. This way the space not only felt more secure, but also avoided potentially triggering/upsetting people. The internet has changed in a way that people have less control over what they see but at the same time everything being more controlled/sanitized. Which leads to funny spellings or silly phrases like „unaliving“ to get past cencors so people still can talk about topics important to them but also people not being able to safe themselves from topics they want to stay away from.
Also as an add on: i personally think romanticization in moderation can also be helpful for some. Menhera as a subculture has its issues and also does not uses romanticization in moderation but one of the initial ideas was to make the whole medical setting not only less scary but also people who are sick/unwell in one way or another feel less gross/ugly. It kinda says :“you can still be cute. You are still pretty with all of this.“ this also helped me come to terms with my own chronical illness.
there’s a possibility to hide the contend you don’t want to see by filtering words in the settings on tiktok or twitter(x), but i totally agree with you. but for tiktok or yt it is still more sanitized by the platforms, because it won’t show you anything explicit, so you’re rather safe and tbh, exploring stuff is still fine, you may need this, but won’t know it unless shown. twitter, however, while having filters still can bring disturbance because the pics and the videos can be found there and they won’t be nice. i don’t think we should censor stuff like this by 100% but we should implement good filtering systems especially for kids, and not just write that they are not allowed on the platform till certain age. the problem with censorship is when we may need it, we won’t be able to connect to it. that will bring romanticizing, but it still gonna happen anyway.
@ but thats the thing it only works with using the correct spelling. There are constantly new spellings or synonyms made up so the algorithm or censorship doesn’t pick up „unpleasant“ topics but at the same time it renders this function useless.
I love traumacore, to me it’s a comforting dissociation when i see it or draw it myself, because i never like to talk, even if i talk i cant do it justice. So art is the alternative
I feel like it helps me process my emotions. Trauma is huge and daunting but traumacore gives me the space to feel validated and breakdown what I’m feeling.
this is similar to menhera. Its like the japanese ver. of "traumacore". usually has pastel outfits, very girlie with lots of symbols of hospital objects like pills, scapels and gaze. I always related to it beucase I have been in and out of the hospital for mental health and physical health. I dislike when people just call it an aesthetic becuase its something that people use to express themselves and even uplift others who have dealt with something similar.
Dude my whole childhood is a trauma, people saying traumacore discredits what traumas are, just don't know what it feels like, traumacore puts me in some weird moods that you probably can't experiment when you didn't spent your childhood waiting for death, like idk, that one mood when for some reason you feel much more close to your memories and the feelings you felt during that period And it also has something to do with the obsession I have for the things that directly deal with my traumas Maybe triggering myself on purpose is stupid but I need it sometimes, I need to feel my childhood again, it's the terms I would use to describe it
@@Bowtiewashere well rn I'm working nonstop for my studies lol so I'm so stimulated that it's like my mental health can't interfere with my days Don't do therapy, do maths instead X) Now I can't loose time triggering myself cuz I need to be in the mood to work :p
@@Bowtiewashere well I used to be good at it but here I'm getting destroyed cuz I'm slow as shit and my cursus has a really hard rhythm so I don't work bruh But I'm getting better and starting to actually feel motivated, even tho I don't dive as deep in the exercises as I used to :') Like, when I see all my friends that have always had the same level as me, who' re now in central or even polytechnic I'm like "well could I actually go there if I wasn't too busy telling myself it's impossible?" But I have time -even if I still feel like it's impossible-
I think the internet is very sensitive about mental health now, even though they are like share your story. Some people may genuinely get triggered by that stuff and that’s is a valid reason why videos like this and content warnings exist. This has been a beautiful series and thanks for touching on such a meaningful subject!
TW: Abuse I love traumacore from both a (lowkey. I don't like idennitfying as a abuse victum because of how 'little' it was but it was abuse, and I did/do suffer from the after effects) victum and as an artitst. My childhood is a blurr of begging my mom for attention, the few moments I had with her, and spankings. When I hit 11 she remarried. I moved out at 13. Those 2 years were the worst but the next 5 were also bad just not in the same way. I think the juxapostion of the cutesy girlie asthic post with absoulet gut wrenching text perfectly resembles the feelings of abuse. The interconeccted love and hate that can be felt towards an abuser (mine was my mom, step-dad, and brother) I love my mom so much. She was a single mother most of my life working herself to the bone to provide while also being sicker than a dog. Does that erase the arms out of place and negelett? No. But I can't help the fact she is my mom and I do understand her. My brother was my hero and he was a bully but he was also a protector. He took the brunt of the physical abuse and verbal abuse from our stepdad before he moved in with our grandparents, and no one understood the pain I was going through excpt him. But he hit me and belittled me and that was when he was sober. When I moved to my grandparents he soon after got into drugs and I understand why he was a victum, he had a lot of mental issues that were not taken care of. I don't hate him because of the drugs. I hate him because of what they did to him. He was so much more violent and he threatened to out me as a lesbian (I'm pansexaul but he did not understand that and I came out before the drugs) into a VERY homophbic household it was the only time I attempted but it was his fault. In the bathroom at my grandparents its still carved into the bathroom cabinet. He terrifed me on drugs I would have panic attacks and nightmares about him coming inside and hurting us. I still do. I've had to call my Bf to pick me up at my grandparents because he was there and I refuse to stay anywhere near him. My stepdad can burn in hell he gets no sympathy from me. I don't consider my grandparnets abuseive ( defitinely toxic) but trying to grow up with depression, anxiety, and PTSD in a family whose only reaction to anything was pray it away was not easy. And the strict dress code didn't help. I was a beautiful butterfly trapped in a too small black box beating at it to be set free. I love my entire family and I do truely think they did their best but acknowlegding that dosen't fix my pain. Talking through it, getting meds, and finally having automony did (for the most part). I don't like to call myself a victum because I'm not in pain (for the most part) anymore. Sure I miss my mom and brother (my mom dosen't talk to me much because of my stepdad) and I wish I could rebuild what was lost but I also relize I never had what I thought I did. I didn't view the emotinal and physical neglet as abuse because I knew my mom loved me. But I don't think so anymore. What I want is to just go back to one nice moment I had with both of them and talk Idk about what I just want the unflinching knowledge that I could be loved uncontionanly again or mabey just the ignorance and peace I had. I like traumacore because it puts the innocents I had with the pain of it being taken from me.
My thoughts are basically…yeah. Everything you said in this video is right. I like the way you looked into all sides of this “aesthetic” and have your thoughts and it was all very thorough and concise. Really, traumacore is all of these things, good and bad, and the thing is…good and bad things can be true all at the same time. It’s not a black and white, good vs bad issue. There are precautions one can take to avoid traumacore, and to be honest I’ve never had a problem avoiding it unless I was to go and look for it on purpose. But ultimately I don’t see anything that needs to change about it. People will trigger themselves on purpose with any material, and artists aren’t really responsible for that. And we as outsiders to the artists’ experiences truly are not in charge of protecting them from themselves in the way of having to censor this kind of art. Each person is in charge of themself in the end, and if this helps people find community, power to them.
Traumacore was always the disturb that gave me comfort. Before I left my abusive mother I listened to traumacore playlists and used to draw stuff, even tho I didn't do or watch it commonly but it held a piece inside of me that just makes me wanna rain my eyes. I never understood why but I always felt a comfort in many "aesthetics", examples are weirdcore, dreamcore, kid, gorecore and there again traumacore. Especially kidcore and traumacore felt like a hug to the inner toddler inside of my heart. The disturb always gave me comfort even tho I know it's not healthy but it's the inner abused child that just feels some comfort and warmth seeing and knowing these "aesthetics". I personally think traumacore is not healthy but not a romanticization of mental health and abuse, I think it's best to stay away from the "aesthetic".if you really are trying to heal your heart and mind because stuff like this can really trigger your mental health and even make you drop a tear so please to everyone try your bests to stay away from things that trigger your trauma and mental health
(tw: vent-ish) Traumacore, to me, is safety. It doesn't always feel good, necessarily, it can remind me of painful things. But god, it's one of the only kinds of art I feel "seen" in. The pictures, they get it. They know that pain, and they don't think it's shameful. And they are somehow so pretty in an otherworldly, ethereal way. Sometimes music makes me feel the same way, and it's so interesting when you combine the two. Maybe it's some form of nostalgia, longing or intense sadness, but it's one of the only times I don't mind being so alone. I'll get up and be with others in a bit, of course - but it's nice to realise I'm a nice person to spend time with, too. (Thank you for making this video, Juno.
Personally, traumacore can be the least comforting like show others said i personally like sanrio and adding them there symbolises innocence and childhood only for that to be taken away by the most cruelest people imaginable... But yeah traumacore as said can be anything for many people for me? I don't know honestly but i think it can least to say heal someone or comfort someone who has suffered immensely throughout there life to say the least and to some its seen as not an aesthetic but for me its to show how much of our childhood can be ruined by the fucked up Anyways merry christmas and a happy new year To anyone reading this 12/26/24 Edit 12 am 10/27/24 Traumacore is theraputic and more of an art movement they say and i agree with that...
I geniunely like traumacore. It makes me feel soothed yet sickened. My personal favorite images are the ones of stuffed animals with some kind of text. I do feel "ruined" by what happened. Admitting that makes me feel better. Its oddly comforting to not have to pretend to be perfect or unaffected. I dont like those who treat traumacore like some kind of trendy thing. Its not necessarily meant to be cute. Granted, the cute themes soothe me, but still.
The themes of betrayal really makes it feel like some of the people making these images just... get me. ...Maybe I should, like, join a group online or something.
I personally dislike the way media frames people making art about their experience as glorifying their experience. Was Edgar Allen Poe glorifying depression?
This movement honestly helped me a bit to start opening up to my closest friend about the things that bother me. People so often try to avoid topics of abuse and neglect. It is even tiptoed around in media where writers will set it up and then get cold feet when it comes to fleshing it out. Society is still so afraid of expressing internal feelings. Depression and anxiety are widely accepted now but abuse is still a taboo subject, even in so called safe spaces. Thats why it took me so long to accept that I had been hurt and lied to. No one wants to believe abuse is still incredibly prevelant in modern society.
I am severely traumatized. I’ve been through a lot of different kinds of abuse and other forms of trauma since I was very young. It’s been my entire life. And I hate how people online take any sort of art that expresses that and claims it’s romanticizing it. I use trauma core aesthetic sometimes to express feelings and vague flashbacks that I can’t fully place into words. I use it as a tool to keep myself safe. Sometimes I share these images with others that I know will appreciate the, for what they are. I can recognize how stuff like this could be harmful to others and if I do post something online I do my best to add trigger warnings. But I think there’s so many people that just want survivors to act and think how *they* expect instead of just how we are. Trauma is messy and painful and uncomfortable. And that deserves a voice. We don’t always need (and we shouldn’t be) to be the perfect victim for others.
i'm apart of the community, actually im one of the people who took part in the survey. thank you for making this video. oh, and an edit of mine was featured in this as well. seeing YTTD mentioned here was surprising as well.
Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable. Not without an appropriate warning, that is, at least on the wild west of the internet. Excellent video. You pretty much summarised my exact thoughts into half an hour. I strongly push against the call to sanitise art, not just traumacore. At times that I've felt alone, my only support was my pen and my notebook. The portrayal of the world's ugliness needs to be put out there, to offer a holidtic perspective of the human experience. There will always be damaged people and they ought to have a voice. All of us ought to have a voice. If art isn't earnest expression, what is it?
thank you for this very nicely done aesthetic. i personally don't engage with traumacore for several reasons, but it has it's place on the internet. expressing your emotions and processing your trauma through art can be a very important step on a healing journey. Finding community and people that care about you is even more important. both of those things can be achieved through traumacore. also i don't know who said it but there was this quote about art being distrubring for the comforted and comforting to the disturbed. of course there is a line. telling someone to sh or similar is not okay. but expressing your pain through art is a very human thing to do and not at all wrong
I take care of myself, have a job and my boundaries are better nowadays. But I actually trigger myself with trauma core very deliberately because I had family and therapists who were dismissive of my trauma. I was not allowed to get triggered without being told, “calm down” or “that didn’t happen”. When I consume Traumacore it allows me toJUST BE triggered LOL. Some people who have never had traumas don’t understand, same for people who have traumas and pretend they don’t.
as someone with a variety of types of trauma, from early childhood to just a few months ago, i like traumacore. it helps me, it explains my feelings in a way people often cant understand. i remember trying to describe to my ex how i feel about myself, and how i imagine myself being taken advantage of as a way of comfort, and he called me disgusting for it. its not something i actually want, its not something id go out of my way to do, but it feels normal because its happened, and thats just not something you can understand if you hadnt gone through it. people who create this art understand, they know what its like, they understand what happened and why you feel that way, and youre not judged for it. that is why i like traumacore. that is why i feel its necessary.
you imagining dark scenarios and situations is completely fine! it let’s you live through it and express/feel your emotions in controlled environment. a lot of people won’t understand but i really hope you’ll find someone who will get it and appreciate your honesty with them.
I haven't spoken to anyone who has gone through the things I did. My friends haven't gone through it; It felt like no one has. This video and this comment have opened me up to how much I have been repressing. It feels so weird... Sorry to just drop this revelation here though. Buh-bye!
Thank you for bringing the existence of this outlet to my awareness. My trauma is of the more subtle thousand papercuts c-ptsd variety. Because of my programming, it took me a long time to accept that i had mental health issues. I didn't just avoid treatment.... I avoided discovery. But, eventually I was found out and treatment wasn't as bad as i thought it would be... but also not as good as I would hope. After that, it took much longer to realize and admit that I even have trauma.... and I'm only just now discovering how much of my life this has affected. Nothing I've ever tried to do has worked and I always end up being in the wrong place at the wrong time for the wrong reasons, I don't even know if I've ever had any friends.... or just people who want something from me. In relationships I've discovered that I'm good enough to waste time with... until something better comes along... but not good enough to spend it with. I've never felt like I fit anywhere in the world... and my friends basically tell me that... or I'm some kind of exotic novelty. I get shut down a lot when I've tried to talk about this stuff or mental health.... and my stuff isn't even that bad. I get told it's inappropriate or that there is a time and a place for this stuff.... but when i do manage to get it out, half the time people don't even understand why it's a problem. Mental health professionals have been concerned about my metaphors, yet congratulate me on my suicide plans. My therapists either laugh at me or dismiss my issues as trivial or "not what we do here." In group therapy I'm also supposed to be super careful about what I say, and somehow my difficulties never get addressed, even though these are supposed to be therapies for my diagnosed conditions. I had existential issues before this.... and even my experience in trying to get help with this stuff reads like an existentialist novel. It pisses me off that the sick, the damaged, the disadvantaged, downtrodden and marginalized people have to stay out of view so that we don't do anything to upset the successfull, well-adjusted and unblemished portions of society, or otherwise disrupt the view or decorum of their dinner parties..... like somehow people got their trauma on purpose and if they don't have the decency to hide it then they are flaunting it or inflicting it on people as some kind of malice..... but when that is the way you are treated, after a while it makes you a bit spiteful. If simply not having your pain seen and acknowledged is supposed to be traumatic in its own right.... then how much worse is it to be forced to hide so that the same people can deny your existence, or that anything is wrong? And then if anything happens there is complete deniability, and it's just such a surprise. Anyway, it makes me hopeful to know that this exists, because maybe there really is a place we can express this stuff.
We have literal art pieces of people dying. There is literally an art piece where a woman is literally dying of overdose and the angel of life is over her right shoulder and her friend is over her left shoulder in despair meanwhile a dove is carrying her life away.
I think, like trauma itself, it's good to feel seen but not stared at. I experienced interfamilial child torture and any time I tried to tell someone they would tell me to "be grateful my parents cared enough to punish me" when they had no idea I was just a lightning rod for all my parents frustrations, I didn't need to actually do anything to be punished. I didn't feel seen until my 20's and I'd already gone low contact, about to go no contact. There is a time when you need to feel your pain validated, but then you have to move on. Luckily, I've always been adept at parenting myself but I can easily see how this can lead to wallowing. Like most mental health things, it's helpful until it isn't, and then you need something else. Traumacore is a trainstop, not a holiday home.
One of the best and most complex takes I've seen on traumacore I don't participate in traumacore personally bc I don't have that much trauma to speak of, but your take on it is very nuanced and helped me realize it's more than just romanticization
I don’t think I have any actual trauma but I for some reason I find it interesting, thank you so much for this video and explaining all of this. I also find your voice soothing
This is the first time ive ever heard of traumacore. I personally feel like its a beautiful and good thing. In fact, i wish id have known about traumacore sooner lol. Something that a lot of people don't seem to understand is that things like this save lives. Irs so incredibly important to not feel alone when going through something horrible. I myself was saved by mlp gore speedraws, as ridiculous as that may sound. Its done nothing but good for me. I owe my life to this one artist i watched when i was younger. Mlp gore gave me an outlet, i began to project my suffering onto fictional characters instead of myself and others. I used to feel helpless and angry. Now i create art in hopes that some other suffering person sees my work and feels inspired. I hope that someone who may have lost their will to live sees my art and finds a new will, just like i did.
i used to be a popular traumacore blogger aswell as other ‘aesthetics’ my work often fell into. It was never intended to garner popularity. It was just a place to post my creations, ones i often made during an episode or breakdown. I was not well and was not telling that to those in my real life. My blog was all I had. I was diligent about tags when I would post it. I didn’t want to upset someone who didn’t want or wasn’t ready for it. Since then I’ve moved home, graduated high school, got a new pet, and started art therapy. I often spend the sessions talking about my anxiety and all its accompanying issues. While a lot of what I make there doesn’t even slightly resemble traumacore, i still stick cutesy stickers on almost everything. I keep all my work. I don’t think the stickers will ever leave me. It’s become like placing a band-aid on a wound. What happened was bad, but it becomes more manageable now that i’ve placed something I can see as a friend upon it. A friend to help me heal. I don’t think I will return to that blog. I do not intend to delete but I do not intend to log back in. It was my home and only solace for a while. It was the only place I felt safe.
I feel like some people dont like it and complain about it being uncomfortable because it puts you in the shoes and mind of the abused. You see their thoughts, you feel how they felt. A child who was hurt by the world. Someone who feels abandoned or violated or gross. And people dont like seeing that, because it shows that its real. That people live with this every day. They'd rather dismiss a traumatized teen as someone who's being edgy than help them. Ive discovered traumacore a few years ago and ive been in awe since. The contrast of the adorable characters and the trauma they put to words is what it feels like. A child who had been betrayed. (Also the character imagery brings to mind age regression. Another coping mechanism)
I like to explore user-created traumacore worlds in games like Roblox. It gives me a safe place to contemplate what I've been through in my own life and take some time to honor what others have been through, as well. The elements of childhood give me a way to reconnect with my inner hurting child and give her some much-needed love and recognition.
I see traumacore as an outlet for the people who have went through such things. It gives people a way to express how they feel without directly saying it and letting others a way to relate to it and see it in their own way.
Firstly I was literally thinking about your weirdcore video yesterday and was hoping this would be out soon and it’s here!!! And secondly how dare UA-cam keep this away from me for 17 hours?!?
or distracting yourself from your own suffering tbh. it is still gonna be traumatizing yet lets you breathe trough the piece do you remember the name of the video or the author though?
Thank you for your coverage of this topic. I'm in my 30s and wasn't aware of the aesthetic "traumacore" or the subreddit/images people share. But when you posted the list of music, I found it full of my favorite songs. I think most of my favorite art is considered traumacore. You've helped me to put it into words why this art helps me so much and I'm looking forward to talking to my partner about it. He wonders why I "self-trigger" so often with the media I seek out and while I've said, "it just makes me feel better", I've never known how to explain it better than that. You are so right about trauma only being allowed to be talked about with a detached medical professional. I find that part to be more painful than the trauma itself at times. I had a traumatic event a few years ago that became community news and most people around me know about it. Unfortunately, the topics it involves makes people so uncomfortable I had and have no one who wants to listen or talk about it. It doesn't help I live in an extremely repressed conservative small town. The unspoken rule is definitely, "I don't talk about my (taboo) problems, so you better not talk about yours." Anyway, I've liked and subscribed. I look forward to your future videos and I'm going to dive into your Dungeon Meshi video next!
Thank you so much for commenting and sharing your thoughts with me. I am incredibly sorry that you continue to be treated so poorly by the people around you. I also grew up in a culture where there were many open secrets that no one wanted to confront, and I and many other kids suffered because of it. I sincerely hope that in the future you will find more people that are there to support and validate you fully, because you deserve it. I'm happy that this video helped you figure some things out. I definitely recommend you read the study I linked about self-triggering, because I found it to be incredibly helpful. I hope you enjoyed the Dungeon Meshi video! And I hope to see you around on the channel; stay well!
So... Any artwork made by actual victims is either 'trauma core' or 'trauma dumping', is considered 'glorifying' just by existing, and everyone demonizes ppl sharing their experiences in trauma. I'm willing to bet the majority of the creators of this stuff ARE VICTIMS of trauma & should be encouraged to artistically cope! WTF else is there, going backwards into actually self injuring & substance abuse??
traumacore is art and a way to express yourself. As someone with PTSD and a crap ton or trauma ive been self soothing for years! traumacore before it was a core. The constant push of hide it and dont tell other or dont burden others is a very messed up way to deal with trauma and such. Its why the art became so prominent. Those who were told to shut it up and keep it in are having so many more medical issues due to what we were told and we are trying to break the stigma and help others! ACE test can help to identify not only mental but phical issues that come from trauma. not to mention EMDR therapy which is a special therapy to help those with PTSD to face and relive the traumas so that you can move past the traumas and hopefully have less trigger moments. art is pushed by most therapists to help work threw trauma. My own therapists has recommended i keep an art journal and such. if you have never had a trauma (can be anything everyone is different) seeing trauma core can be very jarring and almost unsettling but for people who have felt that way there is a understanding and a feeling of being seen. Seeing a post and knowing your not alone, there is at least one person out there that knows how your feeling. It can keep you going. Give you the motivation to wake up the next morning. Even if you cant share it. (i was often attacked physically if i was even cought drawing such things so i could never share them on myspace /facebook with out back lash) trigger for those i guess😅 its were that constant( "shut up, dont talk about it, everyone feels this way and they deal with it with out complaining, you will be taken away if you tell anyone, they will do worse if you tell, no one cares, its normal, thats just how it is, your a woman thats what happens.") these were things they were told, these were things that they learned and continued to push onto the next generation, instead of breaking the cycle and helping they condemned us. They were standing by and allowing and even having a hand in the trauma events. Im only 30. It took lossing an entire day due to a tramua trigger to finaly go and get help. Its only been a few years of therapy. Something i was told would ruin me and mark me as useless by those who raised me. ive come leaps an bounds. I shall never be silent again though. I wont do what they did to me. I dont just dump. I hear something and i just try to add a phrase that would be understood. An olive branch. A smile and remider. YOU ARE NOT ALONE. You are also loved. stop the stigma. Dont be silant. Dont just let it happen. Talk. i didnt even know it was a problem untill i started talking about it. i mean doest everyone get............ Apparently not. But i didnt know that untill i spoke about it. At 26.
I feel that the omori music really fit with this video. I feel like tramacore is a way for other to feel not alone and to be able to get their feelings out. I hope everyone reading this is able to have a good day or if u are suffering just know that you aren't alone. ❤❤
as someone who is currently going trough depression and my childhood controbuting to it in some ways, when i look at traumacore images they do resonate with me. there were several that hit me really hard and made me feel seen, it allowed me to cry when i couldn't before, helped me let my tears out when they just wouldn't before, and i felt better after.
I think it was started by CSA victims on sites like Tumblr. It references feeling dirty and stuff, like a mix of frustration with a cutesy aesthetic typically related to childhood. Its a really sad aesthetic and i think people started out making the images to express how violated they feel, and how cutesy things or nostalgia for the sweet parts of childhood helps them cope.
I have always thought it was an art form/ coping mechanism and have never used the tag because of that. I always thought it was about a specific community and you search or use the tag for a specific purpose when you need help or seek to express yourself like vent art. A healthier way to work through one's emotions than other more damaging alternatives, especially since so few people are privileged enough to afford therapy or other means of professional help. I hadn't thought about how other people in the internet could use and take advantage of it to hurt others though or even use it as a means to sell things to people or manipulate people... But I think that can be true of all art. There's always going to be those who express themselves for the purpose of expression like vent-art and storytelling and those who manipulate people. I think it's not anyone's place to tell someone what they can and can't draw and write about their experiences. I just wish there weren't people in the world who took advantage of this.
To anyone who needs to hear this today: I’m praying for you. I’m praying that the broken parts of you will heal, and that you will find love and safety ❤
this video is beautiful. you said it perfectly. i love your channel, thank you. sometimes traumacore explains what i cant put into words, what happened. i have no one except my abusive parents and cps dismissed me, and my therapist dismissed it, everyone doesnt belive me. so finding posts in traumacore i relate to makes me feel some kind of comfort, even though i dont feel anything
I used to make art like that when I didn't have a outlet for what my grandpa did to me. (Litteral torture/SA/attempted murder etc) Making this type of art was the only thing where I felt I could express myself. Especially because nobody believed me before we found he taped everything. Making type of art has been a life-saving copy mechanism for me.
I feel like trauma core is to not only allow the victims to speak and tell their story without having to cut themselves or starve themselves or go into Much worse ideas allowing them to be honest about what they’ve been through plus it could possibly help them heal and cope while knowing that they are not alone. I just found out about trauma core and I feel bad for those who have to go through it because I’ve been through my own psychological problems that gave me more than one concussion.
i agree so hard. only being allowed to talk about trauma with someone who is paid to listen is a horrifying reality. if more people felt comfortable talking about it to each other, i believe not nearly as many people would need therapy in the first place.
i participate in traumacore and allow myself to feel these feelings in order to process them and accept what happened to me and use my pain to make myself stronger. it's different for everyone, but it in my own experience, it's really helpful.
Thank you for this video. I'm now writing from my traumacore channel and I use this to feel the negative emotions the trauma I've experienced makes me have and let go of them, is really a coping mechanism for me and I really hope It helps the people that watch my videos too.
Tbh i feel comfort in traumacore, knowing i'm not alone in my struggles and that there are people that i will never meet but i feel seen by them. Sometimes it feels bad, but, you learn to just accept it as part of your life
With me, I honestly have always have had a love hate relationship with it but I think I hate it more. More because of my own history of sh and well not an eating disorder but starving myself (and still struggling with it). So seeing things like that can make me almost relapse. Yes though I’m not saying it’s bad AT ALL, infact, it can be healthy to but like you said to a leave to. This is also coming with someone who has had someone who has also had a toxic friendship where someone has trauma dumped every day. I think I got all the yapping out idk lol sorry for yapping sm lol
kinda related in a way I suppose. there is also the opposite to this trauma dumping thing, which is treating it almost like a joke. I have definitely noticed the theme or "trend" on tiktok that people want to trauma dump over the most minute things. like someone got their order wrong at starbucks has now become equal if not greater thing than someone going through abuse for example, and they just dump this minute matter onto a fast food or retail worker. it diminishes people who have real trauma and reduces it into a mere cry for attention.
Discovering traumacore has greatly helped me mentally. I’m an artist, and I often like to draw my feelings, particularly my negative feelings. For me, putting it on paper/on my digital canvas gets it “out of my head” for a little bit. I can temporarily put it down, in a sense. With traumacore, I’ve learned new, even better, ways to draw out these thoughts, to “put the thoughts down”. Making it “aesthetically pleasing” and something I can easily look at makes it easier for me to process my thoughts and feelings. It’s also a good way for me to “discuss” my trauma; I don’t have a lot of people who are comfortable with me discussing it. Even when they’re willing to let me vent or talk about it, often times, they’re already busy with responsibilities that take priority. Perhaps it’s not for everyone, but traumacore has, at least in my case, been very therapeutic, and I’m glad every day that I discovered it.
i like traumacore for a reason of comfort. i grew up in an abusive household wich was all ive known for 15 years. often now i tend to find comfort in that what i know as a way of coping. to me the images that often come with this 'traumacore' is something rather comferting as it reminds me of the "love" i had once for my abusers. disturbing yet comforting.
The way you talked about how people view trauma felt so true. The amount of people saying how funny it is to hurt or want to even kill your kids is why I’ll never feel like I can talk to others about being punched and poked and that I need to manifest “something worse” so people can actually care
I personally like traumacore and have made pieces myself, it makes me feel uncomfortable, yes, but comforting at the same time. I guess what I mean to say it feels relatable to know others that have gone through similar experiences and that you aren’t alone and that you can support one another, I don’t post my pieces but only share to people who I know are comfortable. I kinda wish there was another name to traumacore, and the name makes it sound like glorifying trauma as an aesthetic.
the last line, "i don't think that i have the right to say that what they're doing is wrong." hit so close to home for some reason after watching the whole video along with the music.. that my emotions aren't "wrong" and can be expressed. people in the community just want help or to express their feelings, knowing that someone doesn't think their feelings are invalid can mean so much.
im not a csa survivor, or even an sa survivor, but hearing the sentiments like "im broken" and "im sorry i wasnt good enough," ring true for me with my own traumatic childhood experiences. the images have the energy of vent art id draw for myself, a lingering pain and grief surrounding your childhood due to your painful experience. It doesnt feel glorifying or romantacizing, it feels raw. its a brief glimpse into the most painful thoughts of a stranger, a human being. it feels voyeuristic but also personal and honest. i think it could have the potential to be dangerous, but i also feel it meets the criteria of art and should be analyzed as such, even if its painful or disturbing.
idk if this counts but me and my friends recently started a band,,, and i'm the main songwriter,, the songs i've written so far could count as traumacore, i think?? one is about a therapist who became that because they wanted to help, but ended up ignoring their own problems (happy ending for this one), and the other is about an abused child who eventually hangs herself. i think traumacore is honestly okay, when it comes with warnings and such, or is limited to a place specially made for people who look/make it. i make mine because it helps me put my feelings out and hope someone out there will help. and with my writing stories, that even if i go through all the trauma that i gave my characters, i will have a good ending. also, yeah, that's true that most people never wish their suffering on others! i've spent all my life begging that one day i'll be able to prevent things like my own situation from happening, because it hurts, of course, so most wouldn't wish this on anyone. i'm also jealous whenever people are able to show their trauma so clearly online, when irl i can't. i think that's why a lot of people project onto their favorite characters, because giving them that trauma and watching people love them feels like they love you, too. :) btw whoever's reading this, go drink water, take meds, eat, whatever will help you (as long as it doesn't harm you.) bye :D
I loved traumacore tumblr blogs as a preteen / early teen who was only just processing some very real traumatic events from when I was even younger. There were many phrases & comments I saw that I related to & never heard such feelings discussed elsewhere. I think it was acutely successful in getting me to kind of understand my actual feelings regarding the events which I later brought up in therapy.
It’s validating, mind opening. It’s dug up memories and feelings I’ve buried and obviously it hurts it’s also helpful because now I can try to talk about it in therapy. The people saying it’s making trauma seem “cute” are very wrong. It’s supposed to be the mix of the horrific things and feelings we endured with the things we enjoyed as children because it shows how confusing and just generally fucked up life was or is. It’s for sure a way of venting and crying for help. And it’s a way to remember clearer and express your feelings and experiences so it’s not so stuck inside of you
every time young people express mental health issues they get accused of romanticising it. i think it's easier to accept that teens think trauma or depression is trendy, than that they're truly struggling and need support. if you tell yourself it's just a problematic trend, you can dismiss the real pain people experience.
This is such a good point! You're absolutly right.
@@juno_moth thank you :)) loved the video!
I noticed that too. People in older generations don't get treated the same way. I don't see people accusing gen xers and baby boomers of "faking trauma" or "making a big deal out of nothing for attention" any time they talk about bad things that happened to them as children, but if someone in gen z vents, makes art about, or jokes about the exact same traumatic experience, suddenly their trauma either "isn't really that bad" or they're accused of "trauma dumping". Apparently we should only feel bad for older generations, because if it's someone young, their trauma apparently just isn't valid.
I honestly hope this attitude ends. I used to relate to vent posts a lot when I was younger, but when I saw the attitude towards them I thought to myself "I'm not actually mentally ill and I dont need therapy, I'm just stuck in an edgy phase". I was very very wrong, sometimes I wonder if I would've sought out help earlier if it wasn't for this attitude. If maybe I wouldn't have shamed my out of therapy by telling myself "by seeking out mental help just because you're edgy you're preventing people who actually need it from getting help" for so long.
@@mynameisreallycool1 I’m 40 & have CPTSD & got invalidated so much that I moved to an isolated island to escape judgement.
I love this "aesthetic" I just hate how it's seen as some edgy bulshit made to glorify abuse and mental illness. I used it to cope. Creating art to express my pain instead of slashing it into my skin or starving body
I so badly wish I could help, but just know that somebody from North Dakota cares, and is sending you many hugs!
@@KaylieghHereford I kept on reading it as North Korea and wanted to know if I missed something.
@@MorenaDeRena Hahahha oh no I do that all the time!
I'm proud of you! It takes a lot of courage, self awareness, and wisdom to seek out and find a way to express yourself out loud instead of on your body. ❤ I hope you're doing better now. Love from a Granny Witch in the Appalachian Mountains ❤
@@TheyForgotMySalad y'all are too sweet ty so much
I like traumacore. It makes me feel bad, but like, in a good way, it's sorta conforting, but disturbing at the same time
Yee!
I have a lot of trauma, it feels healthy to have a space where I can express it. The general population doesn't approve of having a traumatic childhood, they try to hide it. Trauma core feels like I'm being listened to and not get the "they tried their best" "there's no handbook" "that didn't happen". You don't need a hand book to be a decent person, you don't need a handbook to know not to hit your kids.
@@dionysus_adores pan flag!!
@WepcapStinkhorn literally jsut watched a video that mentioned the sfinkhorn mushroom and talked about how I made a mask of the mushroom and a character of it in my theatre class.
@@squish154 A stinkhorn character? That's cool!
"Yes, I know no one forced me to go back inside.
But this pain just hurts so comfortably."
- Lacey, Lacey Games
YESSS I LOVE THAT SERIESSSS
OMG THAT LINE BROKE ME SO BAD 😭
Nah but i read this while playing the rblx version of laceys wardrobe
I just got off of a video about the series, hell yeah
LACEY GAMES MENTIONED!!!!
Man if I hear one more argument that’s just “this art shouldn’t be allowed because it makes me uncomfortable and the author is clearly endorsing the subject matter because there’s a cute thing in it” I’m going to walk into the lake and never come back
Yeah.. media literacy is at an all-time low these days
Real like if ur uncomfortable js don't watch it???
@@juno_moth media literacy is dead and people are default dancing on the grave
the trout population will be impacted heavily bc i will never leave after i hear it one more time
Have fun with old man consequences😃
i dislike that people call anything a bad representation of trauma if it makes them uncomfortable. i’ve personally seen people on twitter make grape comics for the purpose of sexualizing trauma and for people to get their rocks off to grape. that is real romanticization of trauma. not trauma core.
Okay, calling it "grape" isn't doing it any justice either. That just tries to make light of a serious topic like this.
@@ChristopherCapersJones i know, i also find it annoying. i didn’t want my comment/channel to be shadow banned
Yep. The former (🍇comics) is exploitation of pain by out of touch nasty people who get off of people's suffering, the latter (traumacore) is venting pieces made by actual victims telling their own story.
@@ChristopherCapersJones Social media has basically banned any word that can even 'ellude' to terrible experiences, UA-cam doesn't even let their talents say that word in videos. You're likely to get shadow banned. They aren't making light of the situation they're getting around the censorship put in place by corporate that doesn't want to deal with the possible controversy of the topic being discussed.
@@ChristopherCapersJonesBlame UA-cam for that. Lol
Traumacore, to me, is a form of vent art.
same
Yeah
yeah, ive always thought of it as a kind of vent art.
Agree
People say it makes them uncomfortable. That’s the point
exactly
Yes! Isn’t there a quote about how art should bring comfort to those in pain and discomfort to those who are comfortable?
@@EmL-kg5gn exactly. It’s not supposed to make you feel comfortable, it’s vent art
@@EmL-kg5gn I believe it was Cesar A. Cruz who once said "art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable".
@@PsychedelicCharm Thank you!
I completely agree with you. I´m a psychiatric nurse, I work in a psychward. I am also diagnosed with bipolar disorder type 2, and have had an endless amount of depressive episodes throughout my life (I´m fine now, been on lamotrigine for almost two years and have not had a single episode of either depression or hypomania since then). When I was a teenager I used art as a form of expression. I supressed my feeling a lot, so I could never identify when I actually felt bad, I had no idea what I was feeling, so I just let my mind turn off and drew things that could probably be defined as traumacore. I never showed these to anyone, but they were my way of getting it out. It helped me avoid using worse cooping mechanisms.
I know a lot of my patients do the same thing, especially patients with emotional instability (borderline disorder), and I see how much it helps them with regulation their feelings
Therapy is almost always crucial too, and thankfully I live in a country where therapy is free. But in places where that is not the case, I think art is fantastic. And for people who are in therapy, I still think art is fantastic.
Therapy is exhausting, efficient, but exhausting. Art is not. It can be a good way to let everything out in the moment, and if you trust your therapist enough, maybe you can show them your art, tell them how it felt when you made it, if you can identify what you were feeling before, during and after making it. It can help you make huge progress in your treatment.
Also, I very much agree that these communities are usually very supportive. As someone who is EXTREMELY interested in psychiatry, I used to visit different subreddits similar to these, like for ED´s, ADHD and so on. Every post was filled with supportive comments and stories of people getting out of a bad place, and it was very nice to see.
I believe these communities need to exist to some extent. Because people like this are usually very lonely (especially borderline patients, who often have a very hard time maintaning relationships).
And to anyone going through something bad right now, as long as you have that little spark left it will get better. It may take years and years, but keep your spark and things will get better
Thank you so much for sharing your experiences and insights. I very much relate to and agree with everything you said. I also have multiple mental conditions (which I don't feel comfortable sharing) and I to this day struggle with recognizing my emotions, though after years of therapy I'm slowly getting better. And you're right, art helps so much with all of that. Once again, thank you for leaving such a wonderfully thoughtful comment, and I hope you'll continue to do well
Hi, vent art maker and diagnosed BPD and BP2 haver here.
I literally could not have put my experience into better words if I tried. I’m almost 28 and I finally got diagnosed about a year and a half ago. Now I’m in therapy and on lamotrigine and aripiprazole.
I spent YEARS, literally almost 18 years, waiting to get professional help, being told many things including: it’s not that bad you’ll figure it out on your own, you’re a lost cause who won’t help herself so why should I help you, you just need to find ways to cope on your own, I can recommend antidepressants but that’s all I can do for you, etc… I only got help after my fiancé took me to the hospital following a suicide attempt. He was the first person in my life to even really try to intervene. The doctors there got me into actual care. He’s helped me every step of the way. And after that it was like a floodgate… I told them I’d been SA by a neighbor at 8, I told them my mother used to hit me and blame me for all the problems in the household, that I’d had several friends and boyfriends physically abuse me, that I’d had at least 7 near death experiences, that I’d been homeless, that I’d been a hit and run victim, that I’d lost 4 children, as well as my father and 7 other close family members in just 5 years… I’d been through a lot and every time I tried to talk about it before then, I’d either not been able to get the words out or been tuned out by the people around me. I’m still kind of afraid to tell people I’m borderline bc there’s so much stigma around it.
BUT the therapy art kept me alive for 18 years, and is something that’s still supplemental to my continued recovery. There needs to be more people like you, willing to understand and help people like me, and I can’t thank you enough for what you do.
Thank you for this comment ^^
I'm scared of drawing.. I love drawing but when I realized that I putting my mental struggles born from mental issues - psychotic depression with guilt delusion (I'm undiagnosed - I'm self-diagnosed) into my art and because I was called disturbing and weird because of relating to a fictional character in more dark way - because of similar mental issues..
Now I just have this mental block.. and depression making it hard to do anything doesn't help either..
But your comment is hopeful..
I think that I want to try to draw even if only for myself ❤
Thank you so much 💗
I recently got shamed a horrific amount, and got called things like insensitive and disgusting, for saying that I liked how my scars looked. And that to me, they were aesthetically pleasing now that I was in a healthier place. It is very frustrating for someone and others to be able to start endearing and embracing certain kinds of trauma, only for others to say that it’s fetishizing and glorifying serious mental illness. It is not insensitive to make your trauma an art form, and it is not insensitive to particularly enjoy that art.
People can like the visual of their (sh) scars without romanticising it, yet any positive remark can be misinterpretet as glamorizing, romantivising etc. its tiring :(
(and if someone finds comfort in romanticising their own scars, thats not inherently bad eitjer is it? tons of coping mechanisms can be unhealthy but still better than the alternatives, and the healthiness of it depends on the individual anyway)
i didnt mean to mansplain lmfao, i just relate n feel that other people think so black and white it ends up doing more harm than their "good intentions". i wish more people were open to genuinely learning
Oh my god, someone actually used the word "aesthetic" correctly? I'm crying. Thank you
You're twisted. Get some help.
Scars tell a story I don't get why people think it's wrong to learn to embrace them.
So sorry about that. I do commissions and I never turn down someone who asks for SH scars to be added to a personal character of theirs. It sucks that people feel like they need to ask that. Its not NSFW to have healed trauma. It's not wrong to have healed trauma. And it shouldn't be censored. That'd be like demanding someone cover their SH scars in public.
Be proud of what you've lived through, not ashamed of what people think of it.
"Trauma core" is more an art movement than an aesthetic. I think it's an unpleasant truth we have to look dead in the eyes to make any progress on how we talk about trauma
How are you the second person in this thread saying this? Please explain how you can have visual art without aesthetics. Or maybe stop using buzzwords that you don't understand, lmao. No one knows what you people mean when you say "aesthetic", because it barely seems to relate to the actual meaning of the word
@@DaveGrean art movement needs too have some deeper philosophy in background. it wants the world too see something and too change ( or stop bad changes) it isnt something that was created for fun but too make people think. about their actions and path of humanity as whole.
@@kosmaukaszczyk8401 Hi there, you seem to have tagged the wrong person -- just saying
Yeah pretry much..
@DaveGrean aesthetic in it's popular sense of images and fashion. Traumacore is more of a movement than what most people see as an aesthetic
It’s sad to know why my friend likes Traumacore but it makes me happy to know he has found something to relate to
As someone who finds comfort in traumacore, I'm excited to watch this.
I really want to know how do you find comfort in it? I have relatively little trauma so it could be that but I would love to know before to me trauma core makes me extremely uncomfortable and genuinely depressed so I would love to know why it comforts you :O (please don’t take this as rude if it sounds rude btw)
@@Emo_PuddingX3 I had a really traumatic childhood so looking at some traumacore images makes me feel less alone in this world. I also find comfort in pastel colors and certain imagery because despite my horrible past, some traumacore images give me a feeling of nostalgia!!
@@brandnewnumb5008 oh..(I’m sorry I don’t really know what to reply when people say they have had traumatic experiences) that sucks :( I’m glad things are better now! I’m just really interested in this stuff ig. I want to say I’m sorry you find nostalgia in some of these photos but I don’t at the same time. Idk.
@@Emo_PuddingX3 I also kinda want to add on to this despite this not being the person the question to was gear towards. To me, it feels like seeing my own thoughts, feelings, and fears portrayed back to me in an artistic way. It makes me both feel less alone and also understand my feelings a bit better, if that makes sense. It's like seeing these thoughts and feelings visualized.
Hi, I make some traumacore videos, If you want you can take a look at those, I hope it conforts and helps you, take care🌸
actually, on the suffix -core point here's a fun fact:
"-Core" derives from the french word "Cœur", which means heart. "-core" is the "heart" of a concept/event.
Actually the usage of -core as a suffix comes from hardcore punk. Most of its subgenres end in -core for that very reason (grindcore, metalcore, deathcore, ...). Then came hardcore rap, and the same thing happened to its subgenres (horrorcore, nerdcore), and then hardcore techno, same thing (speedcore, terrorcore, breakcore, ...).
The suffix has always referred to 'hardcore' within the context of musical genres: specifically music that is very harsh, loud, or otherwise extreme compared to its non-hardcore counterpart.
It's only in the past decade or so that confused Tumblr kids co-opted it to refer to their weird online subcultures that have nothing to do with music OR being extreme (I'm sorry but there is nothing 'hardcore' about fricking 'cottagecore' or whatever).
IMO the -wave suffix, which said Tumblr crowd uses in the same manner, and also comes from musical genres (new wave, darkwave, ...), works much better since it's neutrally loaded and lacks the association with the 'hardcore' concept
I love this meaning/interpretation to it. ♡
@@StarAndFriends11 Too bad it's wrong.
@@DaveGrean that's alright with me, the sentiment is still very nice in my opinion :)) and thank you for the extra information in your earlier comment ^^
@@StarAndFriends11 Glad to be of service mate
art can disturb those in peace, and comfort those disturbed
there is such a feeling of anger and impotence when it comes to trauma, and i feel that making people cry in silence is what makes them feel so lonely and misunderstood, i understand the limits as someone who has been through trauma, but the victims have a right to express themselves with anger, with discomfort and with impotence, there is hope, and i wish anyone who has been through horrific events to find hope, but sometimes you can't keep making lemonade out of lemons, your hands will burn.
as always, try to find profesional help, but if you can't, make art, and just make sure to not harm those who are hurt like you, there are things you can't control, so just focus on your individual responsability and take care
20:30 I actually had to break up with a girlfirend once because we were both depressed and her trying to help me while dealing with her own issues was making her worse. She knew this and wouldn't stop anyway becasue she carred about me. So I cut it off and I am happy to report that she is doing much better than she was back then.
Are you also doing better, bud?
this was my experience (from your gf's perspective) back in 2017-2018. I often wonder if he is ok, miss him and hope he received help. i feel immense guilt over breaking up with him even tho it was healthier for me to do that at the time. JCTlll (Charlie), if you're out there, M's doing okay. I hope you are too.
-M
@@TBG1 more or less yeah, that was like over 7 years ago so like yeah im ok
@@draugr905 that's good to hear. I'm glad you're okay, dude
It's a way for the traumatized to show the untraumatized what it feels like. Lurk on the cptsd subreddit long enough and "normal" people right and left dismiss traumatized people. Society itself is designed to brush it off, so no wonder this "core" exists
I think this is definitely an element. When I write or draw im often trying to capture the pain im feeling. Not because I want to hurt anyone but because I just want someone else to understand, to actually see a part of me that the world doesnt want to acknowledge.
I’m about 5 minute in
I genuinely think if it can help people cope then it’s okay, it can help showing others what you have gone through and help others understand what you feel
This is so thoughtful and thorough and I can’t get over how smart and sensitive and insightful it is. As a middle-aged person, it genuinely helped me to think about how I communicate with the teenagers in my life, and feels like something I could share with them that we could use to understand each other. Thank you.
I am so, so glad that my video could be a resource to you. I know how difficult relationships with teenagers are, especially with ones that are struggling. I think that the teens in your life are really lucky to have someone that is interested in understanding them and that wants to communicate well with them. Thank YOU for commenting and letting me know what you thought of my video. It is always so important to me to know how I impact my audience.
I have PTSD, and traumacore has done nothing but help me. I’m not good with words at all, and traumacore is like- the thoughts in my mind jotted down into paper for me to see. the same thoughts I have trouble understanding and putting into words PUT DOWN INTO WORDS AND IMAGES IN FRONT OF ME? it makes me feel understood and helps me process my thoughts.
I feel like traumacore is the perfect example of the saying "art comforts the disturbed and disturbs the comforted" It isn't for everyone by any means, but that doesn't mean we should take it from the people it is for.
A lot of people over hate on trauma core saying its romanticising it but it isn’t. Most people that say that are just bullying people with trauma and find comfort in trauma core
I oddly see traumacore as comforting tbh
“Art is made to comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable”
Not always…
also if you are qouting someone and most likely you are use quotatien marks " "
As someone who also found both comfort and fascination in traumacore due to abuse (even though traumacore seems to be mostly about sexual abuse) i also do believe that the way most mainstream social media plattforms like IG or TikTok are not the best place for it. Mostly due to no safety for people who do not want to participate (due to triggers) or shouldnt (too young children) still get content like this randomly flushed in through the algorithm. I mostly got in contact with subcultures like traumacore through tumblr, which was great because there is no algorithm and someone would only (mostly) see content like this when actively looking for it through texts. This way the space not only felt more secure, but also avoided potentially triggering/upsetting people. The internet has changed in a way that people have less control over what they see but at the same time everything being more controlled/sanitized. Which leads to funny spellings or silly phrases like „unaliving“ to get past cencors so people still can talk about topics important to them but also people not being able to safe themselves from topics they want to stay away from.
Also as an add on: i personally think romanticization in moderation can also be helpful for some. Menhera as a subculture has its issues and also does not uses romanticization in moderation but one of the initial ideas was to make the whole medical setting not only less scary but also people who are sick/unwell in one way or another feel less gross/ugly. It kinda says :“you can still be cute. You are still pretty with all of this.“ this also helped me come to terms with my own chronical illness.
there’s a possibility to hide the contend you don’t want to see by filtering words in the settings on tiktok or twitter(x), but i totally agree with you.
but for tiktok or yt it is still more sanitized by the platforms, because it won’t show you anything explicit, so you’re rather safe and tbh, exploring stuff is still fine, you may need this, but won’t know it unless shown. twitter, however, while having filters still can bring disturbance because the pics and the videos can be found there and they won’t be nice. i don’t think we should censor stuff like this by 100% but we should implement good filtering systems especially for kids, and not just write that they are not allowed on the platform till certain age.
the problem with censorship is when we may need it, we won’t be able to connect to it. that will bring romanticizing, but it still gonna happen anyway.
@ but thats the thing it only works with using the correct spelling. There are constantly new spellings or synonyms made up so the algorithm or censorship doesn’t pick up „unpleasant“ topics but at the same time it renders this function useless.
@@xNinaStrawberry It also necessitates being triggered at least a few times figuring out all the popular tags, that shouldn’t be necessary.
I love traumacore, to me it’s a comforting dissociation when i see it or draw it myself, because i never like to talk, even if i talk i cant do it justice. So art is the alternative
I feel like it helps me process my emotions. Trauma is huge and daunting but traumacore gives me the space to feel validated and breakdown what I’m feeling.
this is similar to menhera. Its like the japanese ver. of "traumacore". usually has pastel outfits, very girlie with lots of symbols of hospital objects like pills, scapels and gaze. I always related to it beucase I have been in and out of the hospital for mental health and physical health. I dislike when people just call it an aesthetic becuase its something that people use to express themselves and even uplift others who have dealt with something similar.
Dude my whole childhood is a trauma, people saying traumacore discredits what traumas are, just don't know what it feels like, traumacore puts me in some weird moods that you probably can't experiment when you didn't spent your childhood waiting for death, like idk, that one mood when for some reason you feel much more close to your memories and the feelings you felt during that period
And it also has something to do with the obsession I have for the things that directly deal with my traumas
Maybe triggering myself on purpose is stupid but I need it sometimes, I need to feel my childhood again, it's the terms I would use to describe it
Hope ur okay op
@@Bowtiewashere well rn I'm working nonstop for my studies lol so I'm so stimulated that it's like my mental health can't interfere with my days
Don't do therapy, do maths instead X)
Now I can't loose time triggering myself cuz I need to be in the mood to work :p
@archeacnos i see
Math is not bad tbh even tho i suck at it
It was still interestinf tho!
@@Bowtiewashere well I used to be good at it but here I'm getting destroyed cuz I'm slow as shit and my cursus has a really hard rhythm so I don't work bruh
But I'm getting better and starting to actually feel motivated, even tho I don't dive as deep in the exercises as I used to :')
Like, when I see all my friends that have always had the same level as me, who' re now in central or even polytechnic I'm like "well could I actually go there if I wasn't too busy telling myself it's impossible?"
But I have time -even if I still feel like it's impossible-
@archeacnos oh.. thats wow
Anyways its 12 am here lol i have made many regrets throughout my entire existence but eh
These videos are always somehow peaceful to me, no matter the subject.
I'm glad to hear that
I think the internet is very sensitive about mental health now, even though they are like share your story. Some people may genuinely get triggered by that stuff and that’s is a valid reason why videos like this and content warnings exist. This has been a beautiful series and thanks for touching on such a meaningful subject!
TW: Abuse
I love traumacore from both a (lowkey. I don't like idennitfying as a abuse victum because of how 'little' it was but it was abuse, and I did/do suffer from the after effects) victum and as an artitst.
My childhood is a blurr of begging my mom for attention, the few moments I had with her, and spankings. When I hit 11 she remarried. I moved out at 13. Those 2 years were the worst but the next 5 were also bad just not in the same way. I think the juxapostion of the cutesy girlie asthic post with absoulet gut wrenching text perfectly resembles the feelings of abuse. The interconeccted love and hate that can be felt towards an abuser (mine was my mom, step-dad, and brother) I love my mom so much. She was a single mother most of my life working herself to the bone to provide while also being sicker than a dog. Does that erase the arms out of place and negelett? No. But I can't help the fact she is my mom and I do understand her. My brother was my hero and he was a bully but he was also a protector. He took the brunt of the physical abuse and verbal abuse from our stepdad before he moved in with our grandparents, and no one understood the pain I was going through excpt him. But he hit me and belittled me and that was when he was sober. When I moved to my grandparents he soon after got into drugs and I understand why he was a victum, he had a lot of mental issues that were not taken care of. I don't hate him because of the drugs. I hate him because of what they did to him. He was so much more violent and he threatened to out me as a lesbian (I'm pansexaul but he did not understand that and I came out before the drugs) into a VERY homophbic household it was the only time I attempted but it was his fault. In the bathroom at my grandparents its still carved into the bathroom cabinet. He terrifed me on drugs I would have panic attacks and nightmares about him coming inside and hurting us. I still do. I've had to call my Bf to pick me up at my grandparents because he was there and I refuse to stay anywhere near him. My stepdad can burn in hell he gets no sympathy from me. I don't consider my grandparnets abuseive ( defitinely toxic) but trying to grow up with depression, anxiety, and PTSD in a family whose only reaction to anything was pray it away was not easy. And the strict dress code didn't help. I was a beautiful butterfly trapped in a too small black box beating at it to be set free. I love my entire family and I do truely think they did their best but acknowlegding that dosen't fix my pain. Talking through it, getting meds, and finally having automony did (for the most part). I don't like to call myself a victum because I'm not in pain (for the most part) anymore. Sure I miss my mom and brother (my mom dosen't talk to me much because of my stepdad) and I wish I could rebuild what was lost but I also relize I never had what I thought I did. I didn't view the emotinal and physical neglet as abuse because I knew my mom loved me. But I don't think so anymore. What I want is to just go back to one nice moment I had with both of them and talk Idk about what I just want the unflinching knowledge that I could be loved uncontionanly again or mabey just the ignorance and peace I had. I like traumacore because it puts the innocents I had with the pain of it being taken from me.
The Omori background music is really helping set the mood.
The line "...In reality, there is no honour or meanaing to suffering. It just happens." gave me a lot to think about.
My thoughts are basically…yeah. Everything you said in this video is right. I like the way you looked into all sides of this “aesthetic” and have your thoughts and it was all very thorough and concise. Really, traumacore is all of these things, good and bad, and the thing is…good and bad things can be true all at the same time. It’s not a black and white, good vs bad issue. There are precautions one can take to avoid traumacore, and to be honest I’ve never had a problem avoiding it unless I was to go and look for it on purpose. But ultimately I don’t see anything that needs to change about it. People will trigger themselves on purpose with any material, and artists aren’t really responsible for that. And we as outsiders to the artists’ experiences truly are not in charge of protecting them from themselves in the way of having to censor this kind of art. Each person is in charge of themself in the end, and if this helps people find community, power to them.
"Art should disturb the comfortable, and comfort the disturbed" is a quote that comes to mind.
That is the coolest quote ever, thanks for commenting that, i needed to see this.
"oh hey, juno moth uploaded let's see what they have for us this time. oh, oh no"
- me 10 seconds ago
Yeah.. take care of yourself, i know this is a difficult topic
Traumacore was always the disturb that gave me comfort. Before I left my abusive mother I listened to traumacore playlists and used to draw stuff, even tho I didn't do or watch it commonly but it held a piece inside of me that just makes me wanna rain my eyes. I never understood why but I always felt a comfort in many "aesthetics", examples are weirdcore, dreamcore, kid, gorecore and there again traumacore. Especially kidcore and traumacore felt like a hug to the inner toddler inside of my heart. The disturb always gave me comfort even tho I know it's not healthy but it's the inner abused child that just feels some comfort and warmth seeing and knowing these "aesthetics". I personally think traumacore is not healthy but not a romanticization of mental health and abuse, I think it's best to stay away from the "aesthetic".if you really are trying to heal your heart and mind because stuff like this can really trigger your mental health and even make you drop a tear so please to everyone try your bests to stay away from things that trigger your trauma and mental health
(tw: vent-ish) Traumacore, to me, is safety. It doesn't always feel good, necessarily, it can remind me of painful things. But god, it's one of the only kinds of art I feel "seen" in. The pictures, they get it. They know that pain, and they don't think it's shameful. And they are somehow so pretty in an otherworldly, ethereal way. Sometimes music makes me feel the same way, and it's so interesting when you combine the two. Maybe it's some form of nostalgia, longing or intense sadness, but it's one of the only times I don't mind being so alone. I'll get up and be with others in a bit, of course - but it's nice to realise I'm a nice person to spend time with, too.
(Thank you for making this video, Juno.
Personally, traumacore can be the least comforting like show others said i personally like sanrio and adding them there symbolises innocence and childhood only for that to be taken away by the most cruelest people imaginable...
But yeah traumacore as said can be anything for many people for me? I don't know honestly but i think it can least to say heal someone or comfort someone who has suffered immensely throughout there life to say the least and to some its seen as not an aesthetic but for me its to show how much of our childhood can be ruined by the fucked up
Anyways merry christmas and a happy new year
To anyone reading this
12/26/24
Edit 12 am
10/27/24
Traumacore is theraputic and more of an art movement they say and i agree with that...
@Bowtiethesilly2023 thank you for sharing your experience with it too, and happy holidays to you as well!
@@StarAndFriends11 yw! :333
I geniunely like traumacore. It makes me feel soothed yet sickened. My personal favorite images are the ones of stuffed animals with some kind of text.
I do feel "ruined" by what happened. Admitting that makes me feel better. Its oddly comforting to not have to pretend to be perfect or unaffected.
I dont like those who treat traumacore like some kind of trendy thing. Its not necessarily meant to be cute. Granted, the cute themes soothe me, but still.
The themes of betrayal really makes it feel like some of the people making these images just... get me.
...Maybe I should, like, join a group online or something.
I like the sanrio ones as well especially kuromi
I personally dislike the way media frames people making art about their experience as glorifying their experience. Was Edgar Allen Poe glorifying depression?
This movement honestly helped me a bit to start opening up to my closest friend about the things that bother me. People so often try to avoid topics of abuse and neglect. It is even tiptoed around in media where writers will set it up and then get cold feet when it comes to fleshing it out. Society is still so afraid of expressing internal feelings. Depression and anxiety are widely accepted now but abuse is still a taboo subject, even in so called safe spaces. Thats why it took me so long to accept that I had been hurt and lied to. No one wants to believe abuse is still incredibly prevelant in modern society.
I am severely traumatized. I’ve been through a lot of different kinds of abuse and other forms of trauma since I was very young. It’s been my entire life. And I hate how people online take any sort of art that expresses that and claims it’s romanticizing it. I use trauma core aesthetic sometimes to express feelings and vague flashbacks that I can’t fully place into words. I use it as a tool to keep myself safe. Sometimes I share these images with others that I know will appreciate the, for what they are. I can recognize how stuff like this could be harmful to others and if I do post something online I do my best to add trigger warnings.
But I think there’s so many people that just want survivors to act and think how *they* expect instead of just how we are. Trauma is messy and painful and uncomfortable. And that deserves a voice. We don’t always need (and we shouldn’t be) to be the perfect victim for others.
i'm apart of the community, actually im one of the people who took part in the survey. thank you for making this video.
oh, and an edit of mine was featured in this as well.
seeing YTTD mentioned here was surprising as well.
Thank you so much for your imput! Was your edit credited?
Also YTTD soundtrack slaps
@@juno_moth it was, yes!
Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable. Not without an appropriate warning, that is, at least on the wild west of the internet.
Excellent video. You pretty much summarised my exact thoughts into half an hour. I strongly push against the call to sanitise art, not just traumacore. At times that I've felt alone, my only support was my pen and my notebook. The portrayal of the world's ugliness needs to be put out there, to offer a holidtic perspective of the human experience. There will always be damaged people and they ought to have a voice. All of us ought to have a voice. If art isn't earnest expression, what is it?
I didn't know traumacore was so disliked, i love how real it feels and the pure human expression from it.
Bad rep of trauma would be hazbin hotel
thank you for this very nicely done aesthetic. i personally don't engage with traumacore for several reasons, but it has it's place on the internet. expressing your emotions and processing your trauma through art can be a very important step on a healing journey. Finding community and people that care about you is even more important. both of those things can be achieved through traumacore.
also i don't know who said it but there was this quote about art being distrubring for the comforted and comforting to the disturbed. of course there is a line. telling someone to sh or similar is not okay. but expressing your pain through art is a very human thing to do and not at all wrong
I take care of myself, have a job and my boundaries are better nowadays. But I actually trigger myself with trauma core very deliberately because I had family and therapists who were dismissive of my trauma. I was not allowed to get triggered without being told, “calm down” or “that didn’t happen”. When I consume Traumacore it allows me toJUST BE triggered LOL. Some people who have never had traumas don’t understand, same for people who have traumas and pretend they don’t.
as someone with a variety of types of trauma, from early childhood to just a few months ago, i like traumacore. it helps me, it explains my feelings in a way people often cant understand. i remember trying to describe to my ex how i feel about myself, and how i imagine myself being taken advantage of as a way of comfort, and he called me disgusting for it. its not something i actually want, its not something id go out of my way to do, but it feels normal because its happened, and thats just not something you can understand if you hadnt gone through it. people who create this art understand, they know what its like, they understand what happened and why you feel that way, and youre not judged for it. that is why i like traumacore. that is why i feel its necessary.
you imagining dark scenarios and situations is completely fine! it let’s you live through it and express/feel your emotions in controlled environment. a lot of people won’t understand but i really hope you’ll find someone who will get it and appreciate your honesty with them.
I haven't spoken to anyone who has gone through the things I did. My friends haven't gone through it; It felt like no one has. This video and this comment have opened me up to how much I have been repressing. It feels so weird...
Sorry to just drop this revelation here though. Buh-bye!
Thank you for bringing the existence of this outlet to my awareness. My trauma is of the more subtle thousand papercuts c-ptsd variety. Because of my programming, it took me a long time to accept that i had mental health issues. I didn't just avoid treatment.... I avoided discovery. But, eventually I was found out and treatment wasn't as bad as i thought it would be... but also not as good as I would hope. After that, it took much longer to realize and admit that I even have trauma.... and I'm only just now discovering how much of my life this has affected. Nothing I've ever tried to do has worked and I always end up being in the wrong place at the wrong time for the wrong reasons, I don't even know if I've ever had any friends.... or just people who want something from me. In relationships I've discovered that I'm good enough to waste time with... until something better comes along... but not good enough to spend it with. I've never felt like I fit anywhere in the world... and my friends basically tell me that... or I'm some kind of exotic novelty.
I get shut down a lot when I've tried to talk about this stuff or mental health.... and my stuff isn't even that bad. I get told it's inappropriate or that there is a time and a place for this stuff.... but when i do manage to get it out, half the time people don't even understand why it's a problem. Mental health professionals have been concerned about my metaphors, yet congratulate me on my suicide plans.
My therapists either laugh at me or dismiss my issues as trivial or "not what we do here." In group therapy I'm also supposed to be super careful about what I say, and somehow my difficulties never get addressed, even though these are supposed to be therapies for my diagnosed conditions. I had existential issues before this.... and even my experience in trying to get help with this stuff reads like an existentialist novel.
It pisses me off that the sick, the damaged, the disadvantaged, downtrodden and marginalized people have to stay out of view so that we don't do anything to upset the successfull, well-adjusted and unblemished portions of society, or otherwise disrupt the view or decorum of their dinner parties..... like somehow people got their trauma on purpose and if they don't have the decency to hide it then they are flaunting it or inflicting it on people as some kind of malice..... but when that is the way you are treated, after a while it makes you a bit spiteful. If simply not having your pain seen and acknowledged is supposed to be traumatic in its own right.... then how much worse is it to be forced to hide so that the same people can deny your existence, or that anything is wrong? And then if anything happens there is complete deniability, and it's just such a surprise.
Anyway, it makes me hopeful to know that this exists, because maybe there really is a place we can express this stuff.
Im so happy you made it to 20k
We have literal art pieces of people dying. There is literally an art piece where a woman is literally dying of overdose and the angel of life is over her right shoulder and her friend is over her left shoulder in despair meanwhile a dove is carrying her life away.
I think, like trauma itself, it's good to feel seen but not stared at. I experienced interfamilial child torture and any time I tried to tell someone they would tell me to "be grateful my parents cared enough to punish me" when they had no idea I was just a lightning rod for all my parents frustrations, I didn't need to actually do anything to be punished. I didn't feel seen until my 20's and I'd already gone low contact, about to go no contact. There is a time when you need to feel your pain validated, but then you have to move on. Luckily, I've always been adept at parenting myself but I can easily see how this can lead to wallowing. Like most mental health things, it's helpful until it isn't, and then you need something else. Traumacore is a trainstop, not a holiday home.
One of the best and most complex takes I've seen on traumacore
I don't participate in traumacore personally bc I don't have that much trauma to speak of, but your take on it is very nuanced and helped me realize it's more than just romanticization
I don’t think I have any actual trauma but I for some reason I find it interesting, thank you so much for this video and explaining all of this. I also find your voice soothing
You don't need to have trauma to find these kind of things interesting or moving^^ I'm glad you enjoyed this video and my voice
This is the first time ive ever heard of traumacore. I personally feel like its a beautiful and good thing. In fact, i wish id have known about traumacore sooner lol.
Something that a lot of people don't seem to understand is that things like this save lives. Irs so incredibly important to not feel alone when going through something horrible.
I myself was saved by mlp gore speedraws, as ridiculous as that may sound. Its done nothing but good for me. I owe my life to this one artist i watched when i was younger.
Mlp gore gave me an outlet, i began to project my suffering onto fictional characters instead of myself and others. I used to feel helpless and angry.
Now i create art in hopes that some other suffering person sees my work and feels inspired. I hope that someone who may have lost their will to live sees my art and finds a new will, just like i did.
i used to be a popular traumacore blogger aswell as other ‘aesthetics’ my work often fell into. It was never intended to garner popularity. It was just a place to post my creations, ones i often made during an episode or breakdown. I was not well and was not telling that to those in my real life. My blog was all I had. I was diligent about tags when I would post it. I didn’t want to upset someone who didn’t want or wasn’t ready for it.
Since then I’ve moved home, graduated high school, got a new pet, and started art therapy. I often spend the sessions talking about my anxiety and all its accompanying issues. While a lot of what I make there doesn’t even slightly resemble traumacore, i still stick cutesy stickers on almost everything. I keep all my work. I don’t think the stickers will ever leave me. It’s become like placing a band-aid on a wound. What happened was bad, but it becomes more manageable now that i’ve placed something I can see as a friend upon it. A friend to help me heal.
I don’t think I will return to that blog. I do not intend to delete but I do not intend to log back in. It was my home and only solace for a while. It was the only place I felt safe.
I feel like some people dont like it and complain about it being uncomfortable because it puts you in the shoes and mind of the abused. You see their thoughts, you feel how they felt. A child who was hurt by the world. Someone who feels abandoned or violated or gross. And people dont like seeing that, because it shows that its real. That people live with this every day. They'd rather dismiss a traumatized teen as someone who's being edgy than help them.
Ive discovered traumacore a few years ago and ive been in awe since. The contrast of the adorable characters and the trauma they put to words is what it feels like. A child who had been betrayed. (Also the character imagery brings to mind age regression. Another coping mechanism)
I like to explore user-created traumacore worlds in games like Roblox. It gives me a safe place to contemplate what I've been through in my own life and take some time to honor what others have been through, as well. The elements of childhood give me a way to reconnect with my inner hurting child and give her some much-needed love and recognition.
I see traumacore as an outlet for the people who have went through such things. It gives people a way to express how they feel without directly saying it and letting others a way to relate to it and see it in their own way.
Does anyone else feel the need to hug someone after trauma stuff? Especially the person who has that trauma? I just want ppl to be happy ❤️
Firstly I was literally thinking about your weirdcore video yesterday and was hoping this would be out soon and it’s here!!! And secondly how dare UA-cam keep this away from me for 17 hours?!?
youtube be like that sometimes :( glad you found it in the end
as I’ve seen one UA-camr say in regards to dark romance, there’s a point where your coping strategy is just re-traumatizing yourself
or distracting yourself from your own suffering tbh. it is still gonna be traumatizing yet lets you breathe trough the piece
do you remember the name of the video or the author though?
@@wandby7090 amodelswhosread
Your voice is crazy calming to listen to
Thank you for your coverage of this topic. I'm in my 30s and wasn't aware of the aesthetic "traumacore" or the subreddit/images people share. But when you posted the list of music, I found it full of my favorite songs. I think most of my favorite art is considered traumacore. You've helped me to put it into words why this art helps me so much and I'm looking forward to talking to my partner about it. He wonders why I "self-trigger" so often with the media I seek out and while I've said, "it just makes me feel better", I've never known how to explain it better than that.
You are so right about trauma only being allowed to be talked about with a detached medical professional. I find that part to be more painful than the trauma itself at times. I had a traumatic event a few years ago that became community news and most people around me know about it. Unfortunately, the topics it involves makes people so uncomfortable I had and have no one who wants to listen or talk about it. It doesn't help I live in an extremely repressed conservative small town. The unspoken rule is definitely, "I don't talk about my (taboo) problems, so you better not talk about yours."
Anyway, I've liked and subscribed. I look forward to your future videos and I'm going to dive into your Dungeon Meshi video next!
Thank you so much for commenting and sharing your thoughts with me. I am incredibly sorry that you continue to be treated so poorly by the people around you. I also grew up in a culture where there were many open secrets that no one wanted to confront, and I and many other kids suffered because of it. I sincerely hope that in the future you will find more people that are there to support and validate you fully, because you deserve it. I'm happy that this video helped you figure some things out. I definitely recommend you read the study I linked about self-triggering, because I found it to be incredibly helpful. I hope you enjoyed the Dungeon Meshi video! And I hope to see you around on the channel; stay well!
So... Any artwork made by actual victims is either 'trauma core' or 'trauma dumping', is considered 'glorifying' just by existing, and everyone demonizes ppl sharing their experiences in trauma. I'm willing to bet the majority of the creators of this stuff ARE VICTIMS of trauma & should be encouraged to artistically cope! WTF else is there, going backwards into actually self injuring & substance abuse??
traumacore is art and a way to express yourself. As someone with PTSD and a crap ton or trauma ive been self soothing for years! traumacore before it was a core. The constant push of hide it and dont tell other or dont burden others is a very messed up way to deal with trauma and such. Its why the art became so prominent. Those who were told to shut it up and keep it in are having so many more medical issues due to what we were told and we are trying to break the stigma and help others!
ACE test can help to identify not only mental but phical issues that come from trauma.
not to mention EMDR therapy which is a special therapy to help those with PTSD to face and relive the traumas so that you can move past the traumas and hopefully have less trigger moments.
art is pushed by most therapists to help work threw trauma. My own therapists has recommended i keep an art journal and such.
if you have never had a trauma (can be anything everyone is different) seeing trauma core can be very jarring and almost unsettling but for people who have felt that way there is a understanding and a feeling of being seen. Seeing a post and knowing your not alone, there is at least one person out there that knows how your feeling. It can keep you going. Give you the motivation to wake up the next morning. Even if you cant share it. (i was often attacked physically if i was even cought drawing such things so i could never share them on myspace /facebook with out back lash)
trigger for those i guess😅
its were that constant( "shut up, dont talk about it, everyone feels this way and they deal with it with out complaining, you will be taken away if you tell anyone, they will do worse if you tell, no one cares, its normal, thats just how it is, your a woman thats what happens.") these were things they were told, these were things that they learned and continued to push onto the next generation, instead of breaking the cycle and helping they condemned us. They were standing by and allowing and even having a hand in the trauma events. Im only 30. It took lossing an entire day due to a tramua trigger to finaly go and get help. Its only been a few years of therapy. Something i was told would ruin me and mark me as useless by those who raised me.
ive come leaps an bounds. I shall never be silent again though. I wont do what they did to me. I dont just dump. I hear something and i just try to add a phrase that would be understood. An olive branch. A smile and remider. YOU ARE NOT ALONE. You are also loved.
stop the stigma. Dont be silant. Dont just let it happen. Talk. i didnt even know it was a problem untill i started talking about it.
i mean doest everyone get............ Apparently not. But i didnt know that untill i spoke about it. At 26.
Your channel is the first time I've ever heard of Traumacore
I feel that the omori music really fit with this video. I feel like tramacore is a way for other to feel not alone and to be able to get their feelings out. I hope everyone reading this is able to have a good day or if u are suffering just know that you aren't alone. ❤❤
as someone who is currently going trough depression and my childhood controbuting to it in some ways, when i look at traumacore images they do resonate with me. there were several that hit me really hard and made me feel seen, it allowed me to cry when i couldn't before, helped me let my tears out when they just wouldn't before, and i felt better after.
I think it was started by CSA victims on sites like Tumblr. It references feeling dirty and stuff, like a mix of frustration with a cutesy aesthetic typically related to childhood. Its a really sad aesthetic and i think people started out making the images to express how violated they feel, and how cutesy things or nostalgia for the sweet parts of childhood helps them cope.
As someone who has been through trauma, I use it as a coping mechanism
I have always thought it was an art form/ coping mechanism and have never used the tag because of that. I always thought it was about a specific community and you search or use the tag for a specific purpose when you need help or seek to express yourself like vent art. A healthier way to work through one's emotions than other more damaging alternatives, especially since so few people are privileged enough to afford therapy or other means of professional help. I hadn't thought about how other people in the internet could use and take advantage of it to hurt others though or even use it as a means to sell things to people or manipulate people... But I think that can be true of all art. There's always going to be those who express themselves for the purpose of expression like vent-art and storytelling and those who manipulate people. I think it's not anyone's place to tell someone what they can and can't draw and write about their experiences. I just wish there weren't people in the world who took advantage of this.
To anyone who needs to hear this today: I’m praying for you. I’m praying that the broken parts of you will heal, and that you will find love and safety ❤
this video is beautiful. you said it perfectly. i love your channel, thank you. sometimes traumacore explains what i cant put into words, what happened. i have no one except my abusive parents and cps dismissed me, and my therapist dismissed it, everyone doesnt belive me. so finding posts in traumacore i relate to makes me feel some kind of comfort, even though i dont feel anything
I used to make art like that when I didn't have a outlet for what my grandpa did to me. (Litteral torture/SA/attempted murder etc) Making this type of art was the only thing where I felt I could express myself. Especially because nobody believed me before we found he taped everything.
Making type of art has been a life-saving copy mechanism for me.
I feel like trauma core is to not only allow the victims to speak and tell their story without having to cut themselves or starve themselves or go into Much worse ideas allowing them to be honest about what they’ve been through plus it could possibly help them heal and cope while knowing that they are not alone. I just found out about trauma core and I feel bad for those who have to go through it because I’ve been through my own psychological problems that gave me more than one concussion.
i agree so hard. only being allowed to talk about trauma with someone who is paid to listen is a horrifying reality. if more people felt comfortable talking about it to each other, i believe not nearly as many people would need therapy in the first place.
i participate in traumacore and allow myself to feel these feelings in order to process them and accept what happened to me and use my pain to make myself stronger. it's different for everyone, but it in my own experience, it's really helpful.
Thank you for this video.
I'm now writing from my traumacore channel and I use this to feel the negative emotions the trauma I've experienced makes me have and let go of them, is really a coping mechanism for me and I really hope It helps the people that watch my videos too.
i participated in the survey, and i love how you did that to collect opinions from many people 💗💗 this is a great video on this subject
Thank you for participating! It was really helpful and i'm glad you enjoyed the video
Tbh i feel comfort in traumacore, knowing i'm not alone in my struggles and that there are people that i will never meet but i feel seen by them. Sometimes it feels bad, but, you learn to just accept it as part of your life
So many people are so quick to slap the "romanticized" label on cutesy art with dark subjects
Finally, an aesthetic that's made for me
Jokes aside, I love this series so much. Keep it up!
With me, I honestly have always have had a love hate relationship with it but I think I hate it more. More because of my own history of sh and well not an eating disorder but starving myself (and still struggling with it). So seeing things like that can make me almost relapse. Yes though I’m not saying it’s bad AT ALL, infact, it can be healthy to but like you said to a leave to. This is also coming with someone who has had someone who has also had a toxic friendship where someone has trauma dumped every day. I think I got all the yapping out idk lol sorry for yapping sm lol
Feel free to yap - that's what the comments are for^^
kinda related in a way I suppose.
there is also the opposite to this trauma dumping thing, which is treating it almost like a joke.
I have definitely noticed the theme or "trend" on tiktok that people want to trauma dump over the most minute things.
like someone got their order wrong at starbucks has now become equal if not greater thing than someone going through abuse for example, and they just dump this minute matter onto a fast food or retail worker.
it diminishes people who have real trauma and reduces it into a mere cry for attention.
Wow! As ever, a wonderful and very reflected video! The world is a better place for you being in it!
Thank you, you're too kind! I'm just glad that this video resonated with so many people
Discovering traumacore has greatly helped me mentally. I’m an artist, and I often like to draw my feelings, particularly my negative feelings. For me, putting it on paper/on my digital canvas gets it “out of my head” for a little bit. I can temporarily put it down, in a sense. With traumacore, I’ve learned new, even better, ways to draw out these thoughts, to “put the thoughts down”. Making it “aesthetically pleasing” and something I can easily look at makes it easier for me to process my thoughts and feelings. It’s also a good way for me to “discuss” my trauma; I don’t have a lot of people who are comfortable with me discussing it. Even when they’re willing to let me vent or talk about it, often times, they’re already busy with responsibilities that take priority. Perhaps it’s not for everyone, but traumacore has, at least in my case, been very therapeutic, and I’m glad every day that I discovered it.
i like traumacore for a reason of comfort. i grew up in an abusive household wich was all ive known for 15 years. often now i tend to find comfort in that what i know as a way of coping. to me the images that often come with this 'traumacore' is something rather comferting as it reminds me of the "love" i had once for my abusers. disturbing yet comforting.
The way you talked about how people view trauma felt so true. The amount of people saying how funny it is to hurt or want to even kill your kids is why I’ll never feel like I can talk to others about being punched and poked and that I need to manifest “something worse” so people can actually care
I'm really glad this video didn't just focus on the cons. Life isn't black or white; it's more often gray, and the internet often forgets that.
I personally like traumacore and have made pieces myself, it makes me feel uncomfortable, yes, but comforting at the same time. I guess what I mean to say it feels relatable to know others that have gone through similar experiences and that you aren’t alone and that you can support one another, I don’t post my pieces but only share to people who I know are comfortable.
I kinda wish there was another name to traumacore, and the name makes it sound like glorifying trauma as an aesthetic.
As a victim of childhood neglect and CSA, trauma core brings me so much comfort and nostalgic warmth.
the last line, "i don't think that i have the right to say that what they're doing is wrong." hit so close to home for some reason after watching the whole video along with the music.. that my emotions aren't "wrong" and can be expressed. people in the community just want help or to express their feelings, knowing that someone doesn't think their feelings are invalid can mean so much.
im not a csa survivor, or even an sa survivor, but hearing the sentiments like "im broken" and "im sorry i wasnt good enough," ring true for me with my own traumatic childhood experiences. the images have the energy of vent art id draw for myself, a lingering pain and grief surrounding your childhood due to your painful experience. It doesnt feel glorifying or romantacizing, it feels raw. its a brief glimpse into the most painful thoughts of a stranger, a human being. it feels voyeuristic but also personal and honest. i think it could have the potential to be dangerous, but i also feel it meets the criteria of art and should be analyzed as such, even if its painful or disturbing.
idk if this counts but me and my friends recently started a band,,, and i'm the main songwriter,, the songs i've written so far could count as traumacore, i think?? one is about a therapist who became that because they wanted to help, but ended up ignoring their own problems (happy ending for this one), and the other is about an abused child who eventually hangs herself. i think traumacore is honestly okay, when it comes with warnings and such, or is limited to a place specially made for people who look/make it. i make mine because it helps me put my feelings out and hope someone out there will help. and with my writing stories, that even if i go through all the trauma that i gave my characters, i will have a good ending. also, yeah, that's true that most people never wish their suffering on others! i've spent all my life begging that one day i'll be able to prevent things like my own situation from happening, because it hurts, of course, so most wouldn't wish this on anyone. i'm also jealous whenever people are able to show their trauma so clearly online, when irl i can't. i think that's why a lot of people project onto their favorite characters, because giving them that trauma and watching people love them feels like they love you, too. :) btw whoever's reading this, go drink water, take meds, eat, whatever will help you (as long as it doesn't harm you.) bye :D
its oddly comforting to me, in a you aren't alone it wasn't your fault way. but it can be triggering without a warning
I loved traumacore tumblr blogs as a preteen / early teen who was only just processing some very real traumatic events from when I was even younger.
There were many phrases & comments I saw that I related to & never heard such feelings discussed elsewhere. I think it was acutely successful in getting me to kind of understand my actual feelings regarding the events which I later brought up in therapy.
I'm 1 minute in and Lost Library from Omori has me hooked already 🥺
I think people like trauma core because they can relate to it and some people may find comfort in it because they know that they are not alone
It’s validating, mind opening. It’s dug up memories and feelings I’ve buried and obviously it hurts it’s also helpful because now I can try to talk about it in therapy. The people saying it’s making trauma seem “cute” are very wrong. It’s supposed to be the mix of the horrific things and feelings we endured with the things we enjoyed as children because it shows how confusing and just generally fucked up life was or is. It’s for sure a way of venting and crying for help. And it’s a way to remember clearer and express your feelings and experiences so it’s not so stuck inside of you