Psychotherapist REACTS to Seven Sins by Ren
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- Опубліковано 22 жов 2023
- This is my reaction to Ren Seven Sins. I have been a little bit poorly so hopefully this made some sense!
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I am a BABCP accredited cognitive and behavioural psychotherapist living in the south of England. I specialise in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy and predominantly work with people who have experienced trauma to help them move forward with their lives. Its a job I absolutely love and connects with my own values and purpose.
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PhD (trauma informed services)- Ongoing - University of Chester
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I hope some of this makes sense! I have been a bit poorly but thought getting up and making a video might make me feel better!
Here for you.
I hope you feel better SOON.
Hope you're on the mend to feeling better soon 🙏
I've never heard of Ren. I admit, I'm not much of a fan of modern music 🙈🙉🙊 I'm a huge Rockabilly fan; Bowie, that genre, when music was actually written without technology 🤫 But I appreciate the creative/expressive aspect of all music. And, kidney stones are excruciating!! I suffer from EPI (Exocrine Pancreatic Insufficiency) due to chronic pancreatitis. When in a flare the pain is similar, yet non-stop for days. I've prayed for God to take me. So, I truly feel for you and hope you're feeling better.
@@aibhilin1211I'm also a huge Bowie fan and I think Blackstar is one of the greatest pieces of art ever. Knowing he wasn't long for this Earth and still fighting against the dying of the light. I like Ren for similar reasons. The man is an artist applying his life to his music and like Bowie, he bends genres frequently. He does a lot of music organically as well. He's an excellent guitarist and pianist. Honestly, he's the best artist I've come across in over 40 years.
Great reaction! Love your take on the sins from an evolutionary perspective. From a Buddhist perspective they all represent different forms of clinging that lead to suffering. But simply avoiding them or avoiding clinging or suffering are just other forms of clinging that will lead to suffering as well. Hope you get well again soon, the storms are all around us.
Illness is my teacher
It broke my smile
My bones feel old
Here lies the body of Ren.
you might want to explain the context that this is the translation of the starting Welsh, otherwise people may not appreciate it :)
Hi! It's Welsh and translates as: Pain is my teacher; it broke my smile; my bones feel old; here lies the body of Ren. Ren said it's meant to be his own eulogy
Welsh translation at the start is:
sickness are my teachers
my smile broke
my bones feel old
here lies the body of Ren
Fantastic, thank you
@@TherapistReactsOfficial its not quite ren explained on a live stream last week before he got the number one album.
he said it was going to be an eulogy to himself and his illness and its
sickness is my teacher
it broke my smile
my bones feel old
here lays rens body
then the seven sins came after
Salwch yw fy athrawen
Fe dorrodd fy ngwên
Mae fy esgyrn yn teimlo’n hen
Yma y gorwedd corff Ren
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This part is sung in Welsh, as Ren is paying homage to his roots. The English translation is the following:
Illness is my teacher It broke my smile My bones feel old Here lies the body of Ren
Your reactions to Ren are some of the best I've seen. The professional/technical insight to the lyrics is awesome, just as much as your more 'human' perspective and experiences really make for an enjoyable dive into the meaning of words. Sorry to hear you've been sick- get a cuppa tea and I hope you feel better soon!
Cup of tea solves everything in this house! I'm on it, couple of days and I'll be back to business as usual. Just not nice trying to film when you look like a snotty mess with a banging headache!
Gotta love REN! It's so cool to see how many different areas of the world he can touch from therapists to rock singers. Really enjoy your thought process behind these kinda things.
As always a really interesting perspective.
The way this album is layed out is pretty incredible.
I can't wait for you to see Money Game 3.
It is INDEED a MASTERPIECE.
Listened to the translation of the Welsh earlier today. Ren wrote it as a ulargy to himself. Sickness is my teacher, It broke my smile. My bone's feel old. Here lies Ren's body. It's in Disco Doc's reaction to this song at 4:13. Cant find the first time I heard it on Ren's twitch stream but it's sound's the same.
For me it’s the line about being buried while you breathe. Basically you’re alive but dead inside, or at least that’s how I took it. Ren is a once in a lifetime artist, truly incredible. Great reaction as always.
Hey Stuart, another great reaction! I always enjoy it when you decide to check out the new Ren releases.
Just for a bit of background about me: I am one of those fans who identify with Ren's struggles personally, as I also deal with pain daily and am mostly homebound (but thankfully not bedbound). For me, the line: 'God tied a noose to his neck then he walked to the edge and he jumped' sounds like a time in life that I've experienced. The mental imagery reminds me of those times when the pain is so severe that with it can also come a loss of faith in God or a feeling of being forsaken by God. It reminds me of the struggles of Job where he is faithful but tested horribly.
I'm interested in checking out the book you mentioned, 'Facing The Storm'. One of the things I admire about Ren is that he's found a way not only to accept his pain but to develop a feeling of gratitude for it. I've had chronic pain issues for the past 15-20 years and have found ways to accommodate the limitations that come with it. At this point, I've discovered life hacks to streamline and organize tasks around bad days, but I'm not sure I will ever find gratitude for it. It feels like that is beyond me.
I think thats completely understandable. Although Ren may have developed a feeling of gratitude that doesn't mean every one will, all even most people will, there is no right or wrong way to relate to difficulties, we are all different and work through things in our own ways. It seems like you have found some way to move forward and that is what matters, and I am pleased that you have. Thanks for sharing.
I'm mostly through my undergrad degree in psychology right now, and evolutionary psych has always made the most sense to me- both as a student, and as one who is as much in the field to help myself as others. I've always felt it helps give the greatest sense of understanding and self-compassion. We are animals with meta-cognition that have been thrust into a world unfathomably more complicated than we could ever hope to adapt to with grace. (and yet!! i think we do remarkably well)
Everything we do that hurts someone else is done to protect ourselves. Like you said- the greater the sense of hurt, the greater the punishment. In the animal brain, there is no way to ensure your survival than to ensure your opponent will never challenge you again. All we want is safety, plenty, and love. With all the control we've evolved, it's no wonder we go to excruciating lengths to keep what we have.
Ren has an incredible way of presenting his trials and experiences in a way it triggers discussion. Never in a way of comparing it to someone else experience or to put him above anyone else but always in a way even so small we can relate and discuss our own experiences. He is healing and bringing focus to so many mental/physical issues that over time have been pushed to the dark.
Love the song, love the works of Ren, and great reaction to it. Keep up the great work. I know we all appreciate it.
Appreciate your thoughts. Ren's description of his pain was almost viseral and one of the most effective ways of describing it. The physical and mental anguish were something anyone could understand.
Your discussion about the sins was helpful because I wasn't drawing that connection to mind. It makes for a more complete picture.
Sending virtual hugs your way and healing vibes.
I enjoyed watching you and listening to you.
I too passed a kidney stone about 3 weeks ago. I’m a 55 year old woman and I understand your pain because before I had kids I had multiple stones that landed me in the hospital and I begged for pain medication every moment.
Strangely though, after I had my 3 sons I have had two episodes of stones, but experienced no pain in my kidneys. The one I had 15 years ago lodged in my urethra and I actually became septic and almost died. So, not having pain sounds better, but it could be deadly. The one a few weeks back must have been stuck in my bladder for months and months because I was continually misdiagnosed with UTIs and eventually one day it passed. It was 1/2”. Crazy.
Sorry I probably shared too much. Basically, I can relate.
When it comes to pain…I’ve lived my whole life with emotional pain I suffer in private. To the world I appear fine. I’m in psychoanalysis. I’m a few months in and it’s very slow going. There’s a lot of power in silence I’ve found. In his silence I’ve discovered how sadistic I am towards myself. I hope something changes…gets better. I’m scared, but keep trying.
You’re a good man and seem to genuinely care for the psychological well being for others. Keep it up.
I liked how you looked at the positive from a base human survival perspective. That made the reaction uniquely intersting!
Get better soon dude!! Wow u got a fair few to get through on this album including what ren thinks is his best work yet with Money Game Part 3!! Its amazing!!!
I really like this song, so many changes of tempo and style and he does it so well, once again you never know what you gonna get from Ren!!
I love the flow of this one, the changes in voice, the changes in tempo and rhythm. Absolutely loved it.
Such an incredible song. So relatable as one who lives with autoimmune disease and chronic pain. One of my favourites from Ren. Always enjoy your reactions ❤❤
When you talked near the end about saving for another day the big topic of man gaining more wealth than they need at the expense of his fellow man - I can tell you that day will be when you watch money game part 3 :) Thats a big part of what its about - money / greed.
Looking forward to it
I really like your in depth reactions to Rens music, it's fascinating to hear your interpretation. Thanks for spending time on this even when you are not feeling too good ❤
This is a great video! So far, I'm not quite finished. I'm a big Ren fan, and I love finding cool reactors because they react to his work!
I believe the "born to be half a man" line you were referring to, going with the context of the surrounding verse, would suggest another call back to the duality of light and dark, good and evil, man and monster.
My inner child was trained to never want or need for anything. stopped crawling and clawing all together. A hug from his hero would make this life bearable. His music has had an effect to say the least
Yes, that is Welsh. It's supposed to be a eulogy for Ren. I saw the translation on another post ( which I can't remember at the moment)
What a wonderful breakdown sir. Thank you for doing Ren and look forward to your others.
Great reaction Stuart. Get better soon 😊
13:11 It's more like coming out rather than taking over, but it's a both and too
What I remember of his eulogy goes like this:
Pain is my teacher
It has broken my smile
My bones feel old
Here lies the body if Ren
Love your reactions and show how his heavier themed music fits in real life! You should do Money Game 3 video and Lost all Faith. from his new album. Both are deep! Please… ❤
I think I am going to work through the album in order, although Ive done some of the tracks already so MG3 shouldnt be far away. Ive not gone parts 1 or 2 so may pay them a visit first.
@@TherapistReactsOfficialone and two aren’t required first, but they definitely tie in on many levels, so certainly wouldn’t be a bad idea.
WOW
Great reaction
Wait
Till you see
MG3
If you thought Hi REN was rens masterpiece…..
I want to hug you before you see it man….. no words….. most reactors don’t have words initially, 😳🤔🥰
Looking forward to it. As its part 3 I think Im going to have to do MG1 and 2 first as ive not seen them yet
@@TherapistReactsOfficial Yes, that's a good idea. Part 3 has many subtle references to the previous two
Rens album sick boi is number 1 in the uk album charts beating rick astley!!!
I really enjoyed this video thank you 😊💕
Thank you so very much
❤❤❤
Love your reactions! Hope you feel better soon 💕
Thanks
No matter what level of pain or trauma or emotional uncomfortable things humans go through our bodies learn to adapt to it which is truly amazing but also horrible because the only way to rid ourselves of any of those things is to deal with them rather that's a Dr visit or therapist because it will always show up in life it never goes away we just adapt for that moment
As someone who also got to experience the joy of having a kidney stone recently, I cannot help but second your notion of it being unbelievingly painful.
17:14 that is very interesting, especially given that such an orientation does assert that "reality needs to integrate itself with me" because it's not "on me to integrate myself with reality" cause I am "rightfully" proud etc.
I love your reactions! I love your explanations from your perspective, which I feel are from experience working with people in 6our field of expertise! I also love that you are a sensitive, caring empathetic man ! ❤ sorry for oops...should read your lol
I witnessed it all from a bed where I never deep rest, a bed where I'm always depressed... There is that place of consciousness lost between awake and sleep... To much pain to sleep, but to warn down to be awake... Your mind processes inturprets the pain, physical/mental in half conscious dreams. Alowed his son himself to die for my sins, forgiveness, reprieve but none to be had... Pain... Sadness
With a clear rested mind we see the flaws of the dream but yet the embedded truth and images continues to haunt your mind.
That last part of your comment ❤ puts it into words just right.
As always, words of wisdom Stuart. ❤
I too recently had a kidneystone...after about a month of "backache" it escalated to bad enough to call for medical help, and thankfully the ambulance crew arrived just as i had the pain soar so i couldnt do anything except throw up repeatedly. Unlike you, mine couldnt pass on its own and a stent operation was needed to bypass it for a few weeks until another op to break it up. In hospital there was a proffesional boxer, used to getting punched etc and he described the kidney stone pain as the worst he had ever felt in his life - which helped me not feel as silly from being wrecked by it.
that said, its not the worst pain ive had...that was a virus infection in the cartilidge of my sternum, which was thankfuly only in moments when i coughed but would make my vision go grey and almost passout each time.
And realising how blessed i am that ive only had to deal with such pain for short periods makes me appreciate the suffering of those who live with such pain day in, day out for year after year. The strength to get through such continuous agony is beyond my comprehension. I'm not religious but the imagery of being burned in the fires of hell seems apt.
Combine that with being young and feeling your "prime of life" is being taken from you...i cant imagine.
Responding to what you said about kidney stones. That Is extremely painful! I've had 3 kids and 1 of those with seriously bad back labor. I would rather have that then to ever have a kidney stone again 🥴🤕
'Tears in Heaven' - yes please 😊. Great reaction 👍🏻
Trank you ❤
One of my favorite songs.
I’ve watched a few reactions to this song but man, your breakdown has helped me see this track in a whole new depth. In my opinion this is the song of the year, Sick Boi should be album of the year. Hopefully a future Mercury Prize winner. Thanks for this reaction.
Long live the RENegades!
The doctors let me suffer a 1.5cm kidney stone for over a year. Yes CM. Normally measured in MM. Towards the end I thought I would die from a stroke before they got around to helping me. The fourth time in emergency room and refused to leave until they got it out. I had to take Care of my daughter and go to work in that pain. Im a chronic kidney stone patient 😢 drink your water and citrus every day.
very good reaction!!
Thanks for taking the time to comment, much appreciated
Great, insightful reaction as always.
Great one, thanks :)
@TherapistReactsOfficial NO ONE else thought to look up the biblical definition of Gluttony in the convo? 😂 Thank Goodness there is a professional in here. Thank you for your reaction. I quite enjoyed it and was puzzled by the reactor’s “insensitive comment” remark. Appreciate your channel.
Sick boi sick boi suffer my sins.
Oh my God it is a master piece
7 Sins
"Salwch yw fy athrawen
Fe dorrodd fy ngwên
Mae fy esgyrn yn teimlo'n hen
Yma y gorwedd corff Ren" [Welsh]
(Illness is my teacher
My smile broke
My bones feel old
Here lies Ren's body)
I lay broken on the kitchen floor
I clawed at the laminate
Pain wandered my body, an uninvited guest
Bones of a home where the devil could rest
I cursed the gods, cursed my messiah
Cursed my maker, I cursed all of creation
There I lay, feeble and thin
(Sick boi, sick boi, sever my sins)
Have you ever felt pain?
Stomach wrenching, unrelenting, tell me
Have you ever felt pain?
Condescending, muscles clenching, tell me
Have you ever felt pain?
A rose emerges from the pavement cracks
They'll write my eulogy with broken glass
Eternal parallax, pain
Pain the author, I accept this
Pain the teacher, bruised apprentice
Pain the system, pain will come
Pain the mother, I'm the son
Pain that splits you in two when it hits you
The dark and the light are converged to one
Pain that twists you, the Heavens dismiss you
The Father, the Ghost, and the Holy Son
Body bags, body bags, body-bagging me
Zip it up quick if things don't be
I search for peace in the belly of a beast
Sick boi, sick boi, onomatopoeia
Running up a fever, followin' a leader
Wanna be me, ha? Grass isn't greener
Bright light seizure, dynamite dealer
Dine at the table of the coroner, eat up, fuck
Thirteen years and I've been feelin' so stuck
Lucky number thirteen, just my luck
Empires tumble, rubbles and dust
The universe shrinks and the planets combust
In God we trust
God tied a noose to his neck
And he walked to the edge and he jumped
Angels wept
And I beared witness watching the whole thing unfold from my bed
A bed where I never deep rest
A bed where I'm always depressed
A bed with a human oppressed
A bed for the tomb where I slept
A bed in this room that's a womb for this mess
Sick boi, bitten by a tick boy
Tell me how it feels to be buried while you breathe
Stones and sticks, boy, pain is a gift, boy
Hard to make a stand when you crawl on your knees
And I kneel
I kneel at the altar of my own disease and I beg
I begged the sky for mercy
Mercy never came, I did me dirty
Thirty-three and hurting, cursing
Jesus died at 33 and still, my sins are lurking
Gears are turning, future stays uncertain
Surgeon incision, murder ambition
Fear of the unknown preserves a religion
Denounced the gods when my body went missing
Back then the pain sprayed ricocheted like a MAC 10
Hot lead hit the bed I was trapped in
Red wings, seraphim, one of God's grace
Cried tears from Heaven like Clapton
Stick pins in a voodoo, Hendrix
Thick skin, stay humble-Kendrick
Stay skeptic, check the biometrics
Bloodstain crime scene, forensics
Lights on, lights out
Fade into the background
Slow down, slow down
Runnin' from the silhouette of self-doubt
By now, by now
Really should've figured this shit out
Lights on, lights out
Smackdown
Let it be, let it be, quote John Lennon
Click-clack, John got shot for attention
What does that tell you about the good of intentions?
Bitterness formed in the storm of aggression
Prophets get dropped, imagining heaven
Martin Luther, Mahatma, more deadness
Six, six, followed by six and seven
Build 'em, praise 'em, bury 'em, dead 'em
I was born to be half a man with half a chance
My heart is in half, half-righteous, half is damned
And half a gram, heart goes troubles end
Thoughts stay darker than Uruk-Hai's masterplan
Sharper than glass, shards splinter and
Sinner man, sinner man, irony could kill a man
Hay makes money when the music lands, expand
Pay me my cheese, rain down parmesan
Six followed by seven
Seven whole sins for a self-made Armageddon
Sin one: Pride
Pride makes a man kill a man for his ego to survive
Sin two: Lust
Lust makes the grass look greener, crucifies trust
Sin three: Gluttony
Humans consume and consume, planet Earth gets a frontal lobotomy
Four: Sloth
Rinse and repeat, reruns, repeat, time lost
Sin five: Envy
That's when one man's win is an another man's frenzy
Sin six: Wrath
Rage, vengeance, kill it, psychopath
Sin seven: Greed
Greed plants a seed that will destroy us all if we succumb to greed
If we take what we need
Then take more than we need, then our oceans will bleed
Still, we feed and we feed and we sleep and repeat
Then we exile the shepherds and follow the sheep
We inherit the mean
We inherit this world that we bruised and we beat
We inherit this vanity, circles of greed
Inherit the liars, the murderous thieves
One sin for every one day of the week
One thing ive learned about ren is he does nothing by accident. Welsh language choral singing is an incredibly important cultural practice here in wales. To start the first song if his new album with it is tribute to his roots indeed ❤️🏴 cymru am byth!
Thank you!
I've delivered 4 babies vaginally with no pain meds and 2 surgically.
I've also had very small kidney stones. I'd choose labor pains over kidney stones any day of the week.
🔥
Lust greed envy-the same. Sloth, pride, gluttony-the same. Wrath ties them all together in, say. But maybe I'm wrong, and maybe it's more that all are the same minus 1 that ties them together and the 1 can be interchangeable with all the others.
Im so sorry but i was working on a commission while listening to this and heard your kidney stone line and I'm incessantly giggling 💀😭😭
While I'm aware I dont have what ren has, i still feel an extreme connection with him, having what he was originally diagnosed with.
Even if our stories aren't the same, they're certainly parallel, which makes it hard to not sympathize with his story or fall in love with his music
My damage, unfortunately, makes many of my emotional ranges limited or defective. I cannot feel angry, or happy, I've not even felt healthy since my symptoms started. I can basically only feel scared, sad, or too tired to feel anything but the physical pain.
I cannot explain how much I want to be angry. I want to have a drive to be better, to advocate for myself, for my health. I so desperately want rage to fuel a mistake or two that will uncover a problem.
But I cannot
But ren feels it. He's furious and calculated and he's just like me. He feels the anger on my behalf, and it's so therapeutic to feel the vindication towards the issues that closely affect me, even if it's vicariously.
It's ironically what's been inspiring me to return to the degree I had to leave due to my cfs killing me quickly, sending me into 22 hour sleeps that I couldn't wake from, or have energy to care for myself between.
Returning, however, could give me a chance to possibly do the same in my own way, perhaps. Whatever I end up doing with my neuroscience degree, you bet your ass they won't get me to shut up.
It feels so strange to let someone else's anger fuel your own advocacy, but it feels so natural with ren's work. As he mentioned in troubles, conditions like ours are criminally under studied.
I don't want someone else to get a diagnosis and their only form of treatment is starting naproxen.
Ha! Yeah it was funny. We still talk about it in meetings. “Remember that time Stuart said he needed the toilet during a teams meeting, and then we saw him literally crawling past the webcam on the floor 10 mins later asking us to call an ambulance”….. good times.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I like your perspective which is a bit like anger by proxy (that’s not a thing I don’t think, I just made it up) but I think you know what I mean.
Zanimljiva reakcija .Dodati ću pretplatu,
Mogla bih slušati satima.
Interesantno koliko ljudi želi reagirati .Ima Ren nešto što je puno više od pjesme , stiha,.To nije sam,o glazba, ne znam što je ali me iznenađuje koliko sam se i sama okupirala tolikim gledanjem reakcija .
Nenametljiva vrlo točna reakcija .Sviđa mi se.
Very insightful commentary...than you!
Rens songs could be useful to medical practices!
Yeah kidney stones are awful
I can relate
Ren has brought up predestination before.
Towards the end of Hi, Ren.
I was made to be tested and twisted
I was made to be broken and beat
I was made by his hand to stand on my own two feet
Not trying to be rude. Just autistic and it was nagging at me and if I didn't comment, it would've bugged me for months.
I'm glad my siblings watch you enough to get you into mom's algorithm. You seem really sweet.
Regressed/deeprest never returned to a former or less developed state. Meaning he was told to rest and the better part of a year was spent a year in bed. Which never helped. More misdiagnosis
"Sick boi, sick boi, seven nights in" not sick boi sick boi seven deadly sins. Mishearing that line made you misrepresent the opening of the song.
It describes an incident where Ren hadn't left his bed for over a year, in constant chronic pain and severely underweight. Somehow he'd managed to crawl down to the kitchen before the pain became so overwhelmingly excruciating, that the tears were automatic and constant and where he was literally digging his nails into the laminate flooring, in pain, desperation and despair.
Ok, I've probably listened to 60 different reactions to this and you were the only one that caught the Clapton bar apart from the legendary @KnoxHill
Most don't catch the Hendrix bar either, but they do get the Kendrick bar..
John Lennon Imagine
I guess Ren is referring to that
Keep in mind, every thing in this video is carefully considered, including the _ending click of the gun_ ...not ending in silence or a gunshot. Jimmy pressed on the trigger of a money game, there is every likelihood Jimmy killed his ego and connection to the game. Killed the values he was raised with. Ren never promotes suicide as an answer, you'll know this once you watch more Ren.
He wouldn't depict suicide on screen, that's not the solution
It's funny you mentioned the seven sins having a functional purpose - that's actually the crux of LaVeyan satanism. The sins serve a purpose so people shouldn't be shamed for indulging in them, as long as it doesn't cause harm to other people. Completely random thought there but I've not really heard that discussed anywhere outside of satanic circles.
I find people’s belief systems fascinating (probably helpful as a therapist). I read a book about the neuroscience of the sins but it isn’t go into beliefs systems like satanism, I might have another look at it. Outside of the shock factor I don’t really know much about what it entails.
#like
Lust is not always, or necessarily, about sex, yet it was the first thing you jumped on. Lust is an emotion not specifically attributable to any one desirable object. And I don’t think envy is ever useful, the word would then be admiration, there’s a reason why envy is destructive, and admiration isn’t necessarily so.
@OleelO Well said.
some things can remain codifide
By way Ren got number one on the Uk charts 8:19
should listen to lil peep. very deep and interesting artist who sadly overdosed and passed away.
Bro check out $uicideboy$ music they are the best therapists fr songs like: ,,and to those i love thanks for stickin around" or ,,new chains same shackles"
Four more likes and its 666
Lets try to keep it that way cuz its kinda funny lol
Not sure why you're breaking down the 7 sins. we all know the definitions and how each can be used as pros or cons. Ill like to know how Ren is interpreting them in your view.
14:38 Slavery, a reference to slavery my friend; also a biblical reference to the state of bondage under sin... in John 8;34 "Jesus answered them, Truly, truly, I say to you, Everyone that commits sin is the slave of sin." It is also a reference to Ancestral or Original sin.
Yes I can see that perspective, thanks for sharing
Before I watch... I just noticed I got unsubscribed from you again... what the hell is YT doing!
16:11 That feeling you reference is not the same as what Ren is referring to. The manner of Pride Ren refers to is the sort that would have one seeing themself as the proper standard for reality, be it as final judge or worthy center of all that exists.