They Made a Camper BETTER Than the T@B Trailer! Full Walkthrough
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- If you thought the T@B trailer was the best standing height camper, check this out. With one extra foot of width, two kitchens, and all the features we have come to love from NuCamp RVs, this is a the new top dog of the class. While it has all the comfy amenities of home, this small camper trailer still has the ability to get you off grid. And with it's higher ceilings and wider interior, this truly feels like a home on wheels. Yet, it is still small enough to be towed by most mid-size SUVs. In this full camper walkthrough tour we will be showing you in detail every inch of this beautiful, retro styled micro camper.
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The TV in the rear galley is a big waste of space in my opinion also not too sure I would want dual galleys, I know it might be nice in inclement weather but I think I would rather utilize that space for extra storage. Love the bigger bed and the cassette toilet though. Thanks Drew !
I agree with your thoughts and ideas.
Totally agree with you
Good seeing you my friend! Look at this comment of yours 17 likes already! You said something here that resonated with folks.
I agree
Exactly my thoughts, total waste of space
It is a nice trailer. Nevertheless, the point you raised about flipping the 'lagoon table' mount immediately struck me, long before you mentioned it. My thoughts exactly. Taking advantage of the longer sided bed and by doing so, taking advantage of the shorter sofa/couch makes far more sense. This is something that I agree they can easily and quickly remedy - unless like yourself, I too am missing something. Another of my pet-hates or dislikes is that if manufacturers are going to put top opening fridges/cool boxes under counter-tops, then they should always be on a slide-out shelf/rails. They are completely ignoring the realities of life that once the cook has gotten everything out of the fridge/cool box and is busily preparing, there will always be a spouse/partner or child that wants to get a drink out of it and will not wait. Furthermore, if you are required to take out the cool box or fridge from its storage position, that is no easy task when it is full of heavy drinks or food. As for the wet-room, it definitely needs a window that can open or preferably a vent. That would remedy the necessity for a silly gap on the door and allow it to close fully to prevent unpleasant smells getting out. Not to mention stopping steam from the shower raising the humidity of the trailer. Three things that would make this trailer go from good to great.
Andrew I really appreciate that you took the time to give feedback here. These are the comments that someone looking for a trailer will benefit from. Great point on the slide out. I don't think I have ever mentioned that in a video. I am going to have to remember to keep my eye out for trailers that lack this so I can make that point in the future.
This definitely has some positives and is a very cute trailer. I can see the appeal for a lot of people. Don’t like two kitchens. Seems a waste of space. The TV outside is hilarious. It’s pretty geared toward camping in established campgrounds. Nothing wrong with that.
You and I feel the same about bathrooms in small trailers. The only positive would be cold weather times. That camp toilet outside is pretty chilly to the tushy. I would rather close up my bag and toss it in the trash (I use the right things to make this okay) than to empty that in a toilet somewhere.
Those dome hubcaps are gonna pop off pretty fast on some forest and WMA roads.
Good points you have here my friend. Don't say that about the dome hubcaps! You are killing my nostalgic dreams. Two things I have always wanted...Retro fenders and baby moons. Mark from Bean tells me with my style of camping I will rip those fenders up the first month. And now you tell me I will lose the full or baby moons! Everyone who knows me knows I can be a little bull headed. I still want to prove everyone wrong. I want to take out a retro trailer all over the backcountry and bring it out in one piece. That was something Charles and I were working hard on. We were making a lot of reinforcements on the body and the paint process to take a retro trailer through the toughest terrain. He guaranteed it would work and as usual I was skeptical until I saw it play out in the wild. Haha. Like you, I am not very optimistic about it. But, boy would it be fun to take a retro styled trailer all over the country and it still holds up.
@@PlayingwithSticks I’m with you there. If I could get the back country capability AND a retro look…Heaven!
The 2 kitchens are nonsense and a waste of space. I would rather see a bunk bed instead for a family.
It's not fiberglass like the scamp or Casita, how leak proof is this?
I love the retro-styling and I noticed the extra, albeit slight, counter space inside, but all in all, not worth the extra 500# by including two kitchens and two TVs in such a tiny trailer. Thx for the tour! 😊
Exactly, how badly do you want to watch TV? The rear (or the front, if you prefer) could be far better used for more storage space or tank capacity, etc. My Casita (yes, they are dated looking as hell) weighs the same as this trailer but has way more room inside for the same weight. I think this looks very cool but it is not the most practical application out there. As for the cassette toilet, if you are one of those folks that has "black tank phobia" are you really going to be better off tsking the cassette to the dump station every 2 days? It seems to me that handling the same chore more times is not the solution that works best. And no vent fan in the toilet/shower is a non starter, too.
@@richardhouvener6423 The cassette can be dumped into a vault toilet or a regular toilet, like at a rest area. I do empty mine covertly and also use disposable gloves, disinfectant spray, and paper towels, as needed.
I'm a single camper and like most campers, I use public facilities when possible, so I don't have to empty the cassette very often.
As far as a fan, I think they left quite a gap at the top of the door so the big fan in the living area takes care of moisture and any "odors," which don't bother me since I'm alone LOL, plus I always add a deodorizer to the emptied cassette, plus some water per instructions (I also rinse the cassette with some water after it's emptied).
You are welcome Jody! Good seing you on here.
I really like the style. The rest of it not as much. Not a fan of the outside galley kitchens, if I want to cook outside I will either be using a fire or a grill otherwise cooking inside on the gas stove isn't that big of a deal and I like the option to be able to cook out of the weather. As far as the bathroom, if you look at the door there is a huge gap at the top so the moist air will go out through here, I am assuming there is a fan out in the main area. I still like the 400 better I like not having to set up the bed all the time. They could have set the table mount to the wall so you could just flip it up instead. I also don't like pass throughs they seem useless to me.
Thanks for solving that fan question for me. So simple, but I just couldn't see it. I'm with you on the bed comment. The beauty of the pass through is to eliminate dual items. Most people use them as a storage area for things that will be used both inside and outside the trailer. We use ours often.
This trailer reminds me too much of my ex. Very pretty but mostly useless if you want to actually enjoy life.
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😂I know my husband feels the same way😂🤣😂🤣 in my defense though, I do cook, clean, do laundry and all of those other annoying things.😮
Beautiful styling and appears very well made. But at $44,995 who is buying these?
With trailers like this, I never know where the prices really. One dealership has a sticker for $49K, another $44K, and then quite a few at $25,900 and the odd $25,500. Such a wide range!
I just paid $20k for this one.
@@jb171504where did you buy from?
Where?@@jb171504
I really wish NuCamp made a stand up RV in the 1500lbs-1600lbs range. That would made it a possibility for smaller SUVs.
I agree that table mount should be moved over. I'm a single camper with dog and a full time bed and table are on my must have list. I don't need tv or entertainment center or microwave though . I like the extra width and height, but not sure I need 2 kitchens.
I think all those extra amenities can be easily removed and really open up that space. But, that kitchen that is there to stay. Haha. I would like a second kitchen, but just a counter and a one burner stove for light breakfasts and rainy days. I think this would be a great option for one person and a dog. I also like how the kitchen is in the front. It makes it live a bit bigger inside. That trailer Charles and I were working on. I think that would have been a great fit for your scenario. We never got to show it off, but everything revolved around the "living area." We designed it live more spaciously. It had fold down tables, seats, and a good amount of room for dogs, bikes, family eating/board games, etc. I hope somebody comes up with a design like that one day. Small, but a smart use of space.
Pretty trailer. Love the style. Always thought galleys in a camper this small is a waste of space. People cook out using a grill when they go camping the majority of the time. Who wants to pay 1000s extra for a galley that they'll likely use to make coffee and maybe cook some eggs? A camping stove is cheap.
Interesting. It is fun to hear the counter argument on here. We don't hear many arugments against a galley kitchen. Thank you for sharing Susan. Love it!
Actually, if you really know how to camp, you cook over the fire. Mind blowing, I know!
All anyone needs is a jetboil genesis that you can take outside to cook on when warm and in winter you can use inside. Tv in small trailer this size? I can watch movies on my laptop.
TV and speakers outside; What a great way to annoy other campers!!!
Exactly! I go into the back woods to blend in, not stand out.
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I go to run around naked and bark at the moon. Those poor other campers around us 😂
@@PlayingwithSticks As stated, blending in.
My use case is very specific, but this is a great trailer to pull up to the tailgate and be set for the day.
I wish the manufacturers would start making trailers like this that are 100% electric. I want zero gas. I want to be able to take along and set up a few extra solar panels and stay out indefinitely without having to pack up and go back to civilization just to get gas. All the technology is there, and there are lots of people doing that very thing. But currently, the only way to do that affordably is to get one of the stripped-down models (or build from scratch) and add in the electric system yourself.
The other issue manufacturers who want to go this route are coming across is weight. I think we still have a few years for technology to improve in the weight category. Lithium batteries continue to improve in efficiency and cold weather. But one area where they still struggle is weight. Same with many of the affordable solar panels. Once the weight comes down, your dream will be a reality.
I guess an indoor kitchen would be nice for some, but I'd take an outdoor kitchen only, no microwave, no TV. Actually, no shower either, though I do like the cassette toilet. Apparently it's too much camper and too much weight for me & my Subaru Forrester. Nice tour, though .
When I imagine myself stripping this camper down and making a few modifications, it actually is up there as one of my favorite campers. But as is, it defintely is lower in the pack. Like you, I wish the weight was a lot lower as well. I used to grumble about this a lot, but I have almost given up. How come you have Scamp trailers that are that big, weiging only 1,000lbs, and last decades on the road; yet we can't build a teardrop near that size and keep it under 2,000lbs. Charles and I were determined to make it happen. I mean he was going to make that trailer even 50% lighter than I was originallly shooting for.
That’s why we went with the Taxa Cricket. Ticks all the boxes for us.
Good stuff as usual Drew. The interior seems more similar to the Tab 320 S. I guess the CSS comparison is because of the outdoor kitchen. Agree with the lack of a exhaust fan above the wet bath being something overlooked. You know me so here we go again...How hard or expensive would it be to have 2 more solar panels up top? Atleast 300 watts should be more common. Also, with all these portable power stations (Bluetti, Jackery, Ecoflow...) becoming more popular and cheaper, when are manufacturers going to put a second 30A or 20A outlet inside the trailer that would provide power to all things inside the trailer like the outdoor shore power inlet does? If you spend over a thousand dollars on a Bluetti you wouldn't want it outside exposed to the elements or theft. The outside of this trailer looks cool being retro. But all in all I'd prefer the 320 S without the outdoor kitchen to allow longer front to back oriented bed length and space. Thankyou Drew. You always bring us much to think about and consider.
Yes, you are right. Much more similar to the 320S. To me it is a compromised layout of the 320s, with the benefit of a galley kitchen. I'm with you on the solar. I have been saying 200. But, I wouldn't mind 300. We put 400 on our new camper. And it really wasn't that expensive when you go with a renogy panel. Our second panel was from Bouge RV because I wanted to test CIGS vs Standard technology. Guess I won't be doing that any time soon. Good point on the adapter inside for attaching a power station. That is the same problem we had the last two summers with our converted cargo trailer. I could only use the power station outside, but I wanted it inside. Glad you enjoyed the video. I dont' think there has been one person yet in the comments who has said, yep this is the trailer for me.
I am curious to know the differences about the solar panel that you install from Bouge RV, I have a 320s and I want to add more solar panel, I am wondering if it's worth the price differences from the regular Renogy which is almost half the price, also what is the best way to attach in order not fly away when driving, since I heard it happened to some people.
Thank you
With space at a premium, I wouldn’t want two kitchens. I also reject that low rear end. I can hear that rear edge scraping on the driveway. However, I love my 2023 T@B 320 sb.
I understand that space concern. In a perfect world our family would have a full galley kitchen and then just a small burner in the front of the trailer for small breakfasts and rainy days. I can hear that scraping as well. But with my smaller tow vehicles it is rarely the rear of the camper and more often scraping on the tongue. What does the SB stand for in your model? Is that standard bed configuation?
Why would one need a TV when camping. You should enjoy the outdoors
Bad weather and/or bad health. My chronic pain and fatigue wax and wane so I appreciate having a TV screen to stream movies or YT, etc.
I understand your comment, but I also understand the value for others as well. There are so many forms of camping. Each year we camp over 90 days in a teardrop. Many people consider that to not be camping. Get a tent they say. Haha.
NuCamp makes the best campers 😊 I love the retro exterior. I don't need two kitchens or even one TV. I don't want a stereo or a Yeti cooler. I do need a comfortable bed and a much lighter camper. This one's setup is not for me.
Good points. I really appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts.
@@PlayingwithSticks I always appreciate your work.
Thank you! That means a lot to me.
They wasted space by putting the second kitchen inside IMO. I would rather have a tiny seating area & storage inside in that location. Then the bed could remain a bed. Also agree with you on the table placement.
We had a nucamp that had a vent in the bathroom & it was nice, not sure I would like this. I do like the other updates the have made but still would not go for this due to the indoor kitchen. The fridge should be an option in the yeti location. Two people standing up in there is tight.
Great improvements & quality build as you mention jut not the layout for me.
You nailed it with layout. I think folks can build a great trailer, but that doesn't mean the layout is for everyone. I would love to see a couple different layouts on this version. But, beings this is custom made by NuCamp for Ultimate Toys that probably isnt very practical.
I love the older NuCamps. I prefer the black tank so i dont have to roll my waste around camp. I prefer the bed setup on the 320 with the complete U. The storage and setting are more ample. Not needing a one person lightweight yet, but I'll be ready when I am.
I am interested to see what the ratio is of those in favor of the blank tank vs the cassette. Thanks for sharing.
I agree with alot of the comments. TV in the gally is a waste of space. Put it inside. Not a fan of dual kitchens, micowave and shower. Like the toilet though. If you remove the inside kitchen, microwave and shower maybe you could fit a bunk?
May and I were both a littel shocked when we realized there was two tvs. One inside and one outside. Could point on the bunk. It would e neat if they offered a few different layouts.
Now lets remember, these kind of campers can accept big docking tents. while it takes time to set up, and can add a few 100 lbs of "gear" to a trip. This can add an extra 10' of width to the trailer. This means you COULD set up a wood stove, 2-3 extra beds... parents can sleep in doors, kids could sleep in the tent, with a stove jack and wood stove, you can to cooking in that tent too giving you a 3ed point of cooking + you have the electric power on that side.
With the electric outlets on this side and shore power on the other, this leads to an interesting option where the tent section has access to the shore power THROUGH the camper, allowing everything from electric heaters, separate AC units, or any appliances including TV and Game console outside for the kids in the tent area...
You know I appreciate how you think! People often make comments on our channel about "what are you going to do when the kids get big" or "good luck when you kids get big." I think they just don't understand our family's needs. Even our house is only 900 square feet and that is more than we need. For us it is about having the neccesities and then from there, like you said, we can just build outward with our outdoor living room. Yes, we will continue to tent camp with our boys. But, I also want the luxury of teardrop camping as well. Having a docking tent allows us the best of both worlds. The boys get a little autonomy and that outdoor experience we all grew up loving, and May and I still get some of our creature comforts. I think next summer we might actually forgo the galley in exchange for a different outdoor kitchen setup. Like people are saying here in the comments the galley does reduce the usable living space inside the trailer. We took out the new Bean Stock this fall. And I was shocked how big a little camper can live, even for a family of four. As long as everything is outside, you don't need a whole lot of space inside.
@@PlayingwithSticks I always look at the camper- the trailer - as the center point for modular systems. Its your safety point, your emergancy fall back, and your primary retreat for serious weather.
BUT it is also the hub. with the option to add on to it with out tents, with out structures, with power lines running from the camper to other points... with water and power running TO the camper then distributed. You might for example, be running 600 watts external solar + a water purification system that feeds to the trailer... the trailers tanks store the water, its water heater warms it, its batteries store the power... then from there it can be disributed to other points.
This is my only dislike to the camper. because of its size and shape, without extending the tongue and adding on weight there, you can't do something like, switching form 1 20 to 2x 30 pound tanks. You can't add 3 more big batteries. i wouldn't have minded a battery box with its own access BELOW the propane tanks. where you could mount up to 4 batteries. THEN the tank bay being able to be "enlarged" to hold up to 2 30 pounders...
I saw a couple of younger folks in California doing something similar to this. Their camper was used as a base station for work, but it also functioned as their home. During work hours they had a really neat system for utilizing the trailer to process or handle external inputs. One guy was using his for telecommunication. Lots of wires and dodads coming in that I didn't understand. Inside there was a lot of processing going on. He said the biggest struggle was keeping the camper cool in that scenario. @@jenniferstewarts4851
Looks like the shower door has a gap so you can use the main fan to vent. Cute little trailer!
Like I said, bathrooms are my weak point. Thank you for clarifying.
Not just the shower that vents out…. Ick. Bathrooms in a small space. It’s so challenging to find a trailer with seating/convertible bed and a galley but NO bathroom inside!
Shouldn't be pooping in there unless it's an emergency. I have a trenching tool for digging a latrine hole while boondocking. The camper bathroom is for middle of the night pee sessions only.
I tested a 1 year old Tab 400 for a night last year and I was surprised by how much wear was already visible. The window shades didn’t work well and some were broken. The weight when towing wet must have been close to 4,000 lbs and it was like a sail in the wind. It was also a very tight galley kitchen. The bathroom already smelled like a camper bathroom and the front table/bed was not suitable for adults as either a table or a bed. The main vent fan was very loud and rattled and every time someone used the water the pipes shook in the walls. All of this in a $35k+ one year old camper.
I think I’ll stick to tent camping. Camper build quality hasn’t changed.
Thank you for sharing this. These types of comments are priceless. Like you, I have seen the shade issues on both NuCamp trailers and Little Guy Trailers. Even on brand new models I see them getting caught. We have had quite a few comments about the shades in other videos. Essentially the consensus from owners is that you have to treat them very gently. And some just come up with their own solutions. That weight and height you mentioned, I can see how that would be a big issue. The tight fit has always been one of my issues with this style of trailer. That one extra foot of width on this model reallly changed how that felt. Plus having the kitchen up front vs. on the side of the trailer made a big difference as well. Your comment is painful to read because I feel you there. And I know after seeing hundreds of different campers that T@B is actually on the higher end in terms of quality for standing height trailers with bathrooms.
Those cushions would be extremely uncomfortable to sleep on. No matter what you do, you will end up with a crack in your back or knees or shoulders. For the same price, I can get a full sized trailer. Where did they spend the extra money? There are no extra features and there is one less axle, less beds, less length, fewer features overall.
Short answer is materials. No particle board, luon, etc.@@marbles05
If I do not fit in the bed, need to bend over to stand in the cabin, or it is priced out of my range, it does not matter what the floor is made of.
And I thought your question was where did they spend the extra money?
Extra width is great!
Table mount DOES need to be shifted _OR_ duplicated - - if only as an option.
¿What will happen to _ALL_ _THE_ _MOISTURE_ once you finish showering?
You take a quick shower 😂
Haha. Love this comment Jody!
I'm hearing from other comments that the gap in the door is designed to allow the Maxx-Air fan to pull that moisture out. LIke you, I was worried about that condensation.
I went on about 12 trips last year, and only cooked outside once. I prefer an indoor kitchen. I don't need a TV, stereo, or an outside kitchen, and I really don't like using coolers. As a 5'2" solo camper, I like the bed setup.
Wow, you have a thriving channel! I have never seen it. I am embarrassed that I have not found your channel. It is like everything I love all in one place. I saw you went to a fiberglass trailer rally. Was that a one time thing or an annual rally? I would love to experience that. Still on the search for our perfect vintage fiberglass trailer. Your cadet looks amazing! Thanks for sharing your feedback on this video. Much appreciated.
I watched again. I really want a camper that size…..but. I had a 7 ft wide with stand up height interior for two years. I camp primarily in remote..ish campgrounds down two tracks or logging roads. I was beating that wider/trailer up every trip. I’ve ripped off jack stand wheels, awning covers, cover plates, collected limbs with solar panels. I need something that is no wider or taller with my vehicle with a canoe on top.
Solitude comes with restrictions.
They gap the bathroom door at the top and the Maxx-air serves as the bathroom fan
Love it! My friend watched this video and had issues with that gap. I wasnt sure what to tell him. I'm looking forward to telling him, the reasoning behind the gap. Funny I overlooked that. THANK YOU!
If we all want a Custom Tear-Drop w/all the features we seek, put your layout/list of features, find a local Auto/RV Fabricator. Thenb submit your design to receive exactly what you want, for thousands & thousands less. You will probably spend close to a year or so awaiting what you want.
If it is that easy sign me up! I have so many ideas that I would love to see come to fruition.
the whole point why some people like me love and want the T@B NuCamp "camp trailer" is because it's basically a tiny home on wheels you can easily tow with most any vehicle. And to live in. Not necessarily to just go "haha hehe" camping with. This camper would have to have the entire backsituation removed and gain a black tank because there are places you can only stay if you have a black tank. And this should also allow for more space for storage. Wonder if such was also made as a "side grade" other option?
Good point you have here. I was viewing this trailer more for folks who would be doing a mixed camping style of offgrid and shore power. I think there is only one layout, but multiple layouts would be a great option.
The toilet is cassette? I’d hate to hear the mix tapes.
The pass through from the galley is a big plus. But it needs one of those little bells that short order cooks hit when the order is up. Detail.
A hybrid bed setup for work and sleep. This is a win. Almost. I’d get that lagun flipped.
Very nice and thorough review.
😂 on both the mix tapes and the bells.
I thought I would chime in as an UT owner... Love it!!! I am 6'2". The extra width bed is fantastic. Having two kitchens is used by us all the time... While I am grilling in the back, wife is making sauces and baking (Omnia oven) in from. I have the full bar set up in back (along with espresso machine) and can pass cocktails through to her inside. The Bosch hot water heater in not tankless but 2.5 gallons. enough for a quick shower. It reheats in ~15 minutes. We even use the TV in back when tailgating . It never fails to be the source of turning heads and meeting new friends while on the road.
Bath needs to be vented . Mold and unpleasant smells will be a BIG issue.
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This is a hybrid of the T@B 320 S and CS-S, with the two kitchens. While the retro look is fun, the 320S has a longer bed and more clothing storage because no outdoor galley kitchen. (We cook outside on picnic tables, so no need for galley.) Two kitchens vs storage? Storage,hands down. I prefer the bench seating in the 320 S as well, with the backrest that ratchets up into different reclined positions. Two TVs is overkill too, since we don’t use the one we have as it is. No microwave either, as we opted for more storage space. And finally, we prefer the lighter 320 S (gas mileage! $$) and the width of our 320 S because it is the same width as our Honda Ridgeline, so if the truck can fit through an opening, then so can the trailer. Plus it’s easy to see traffic behind us in side rear view mirrors. So while this retro look is fun (like the Barefoot), we’ll keep our beloved T@B 320 S, which is absolutely perfect for us. 😊 (PS: The cassette toilet is awesome!)
Exactly! Hybrid is right. I appreciate you breaking down the differences. And your reasoning makes a lot of sense. Thank you so much for sharing this.
Agree, I'd stick with the 320s.
This is nice but too big and 2 kitchens seems like a lot. There should be a slide out for the cooler as it would be difficult to maneuver when it’s full of food and ice. The Lagun mount is probably easily moved or you can buy an additional mount. This is the first time I have seen a walkthrough of this version. Well done as usual!
Great point on the slide-out. I completely missed that one when I first shot this video. Glad you enjoyed the video. Really good seeing you on here.
The front interior galley is wasted space for needed storage. The rear kitchen should be enough, but replace the Yeti cooler with a 12V mini fridge.
$39K is priced too high for this trailer.
I like your style! We have very similar thoughts on this trailer.
Very nice looking trailer. I agree with other comments about the cooler/fridge area needing a slide, ditch the TVs and I still worry about getting this trailer out in the back-country. Hub caps & fenders tend to take a beating over time. If I were staying on pavement or well maintained gravel roads though, this is a gamer.
Cool trailer. The look is definitely retro. It just has too much for us. I know we are outliers. Don’t need 2 TVs. The interior fridge and exterior cooler is overkill. Like the ability to use a cassette toilet inside, but don’t like a wet bath.
I think you and I are outliers in general. But, on this channel I think we are in the majority. Haha.
I kept trying to figure out why this thing seemed so competively priced when compared to NuCamps own lineup. Yes its pricey for a teardrop, but remember, NuCamp trailers are expensive. Considering that it has an entire secondary kitchen, is six inches wider, leather upholstered cushions, a more custom exterior paint scheme and design and more cabinetry, it didnt make sense. You can find these for $32k new at some dealers. A 2024 Tab 320S can be had for 29-30K. Two grand for all that increased space, storage and functionality seemed like a great deal.
But then it hit me. He mentioned a water heater below the sink of the camp kitchen in the back. If this thing had the Alde hydronic heating system that all other NuCamp campers have, it wouldnt need a water heater, because that functionality is integrated into the Alde unit. So these don't have the Alde system for on demand hot water and radiant heating throughout the camper. That's how the price is so much cheaper. Those Alde units alone cost like $10K. So between leaving out the Alde system and the lower rated axle and the lack of front tongue box platform, thats how they got the cost down.
I love the kayout, but I gotta have the Alde. I hope NuCamp comes out with something like this in a more traditional exterior design, without leaving out the Alde system.
We own a 2023 Intech Sol Dawn that has a wet bath. It has a vent and I can't imagine it NOT having it, so I believe this to be a poor choice not to install it. I love the lagun table and I'm in agreement that it should have been mounted at the end, however in saying that, I believe they were thinking of an end table sort of function when designing it. I don't really know where I am with the two kitchens.....Our kitchen is inside when you walk in the door. We've used it exactly twice. Most of our cooking is on a flat griddle outside. I don't really care for the food odors in our camper. I think what I do love about this is the on demand hot water. We are installing solar in ours for off grid use....I don't see a lot of option for that in this model. And I want to add....I PERSONALLY would prefer a combination microwave, air fryer, convection oven. We use our stand alone air fryer out in the woods A LOT! The microwave we use on packout mornings so as to not have a lot to clean up before leaving the campsite. We will be solving our problem soon. As usual Drew, you do a great job.....really enjoy your videos! :)
Love hearing insights from people in the field. Great tip by the way on microwave food the day of camp teardown. If you haven't tried airfryer cookies while camping, I caution you. Do it at your own risk. They are amazing, take less than 10 minutes, and make camping even better. The risk, it is too easy! We found ourselves eating more cookies than we ever would eat beings it was so easy. haha. We have never tried an airfryer for anything, home or camp. Mark from Bean trailer suggest we take one out to make cookies. Wow! That is all I will say. Haha. Glad you are enjoying the videos.
The air fryer is a lunch time thing after coming in from a walk or just enjoying the sites! Cookies sound interesting, might have to try that....maybe with some ice cream! =D We live in a condo, so taking the flat griddle out is the thing since we can't do it at our home due fire regs. I get a lot of ideas from Neal @TheFlatTopKing and @CowboyKentRollins. Both of them have reminded me to embrace my love of cooking! It's one of the appeals of going camping. All three of you are enhancing the experience for us as we plan to take this on road for a bit! Your channel in particular was the reason we got back into camping as before this unit, we bought a teardrop from Tiny CamperCo. Lovely unit, but health reasons called for indoor facilities. You really do a great job with your reviews! @@PlayingwithSticks
Yes it needs a vent in the bath. Nice video!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video.
Yeti cooler is nice but it needs to be on a pull out drawer. It will be very heavy once you add food and any ice to be lifting in and out.
Good eye! Thanks for sharing.
How about the price ??❤
Lots of nice features but not sure about two tv’s and two cooking areas…
This is starting to be a theme in the comments. Love hearing everyone' s thoughts on this.
Always been a fan of Nu Camp as they seem to be nice builds for mass produced builders. TV and stereo seem silly especially in the galley. I bet you like those fenders and hubcaps! No mention of the brand name on interior components. Scars me a bit. With the short door I feel like a vent is not a deal killer.
You know it Bart! Those fenders and hubcaps scream Drew. Some day...some day. Good point on the brand names. I didn't even think of that. I was wondering what they used in place of the Alde system that they typically use in their other T@B campers. And I think most folks are in agreement with you on the door. Seems like the Maxx-Air fan gets it done. Good seeing you Bart! Get some turns in for me.
Please give my regards to May and the kids. 😊
Will do. May will need it. The boys are sqabbling right now over a Rubik's cube. Haha.
Is it OK to have battery and propane tank in the same compartment? Is there a vent so propane won't pool? Obviously there shouldn't be a leak, but still seems suboptimal.
Seems interesting doesn't it? I can't imagine NuCamp would overlook a code.
Hard to find rules for smaller propane tanks. One site mentions OSHA but a lot of those rules are for filling locations and such. I see some rules about ventilation but hard for me to figure which apply in this case
Like the cassette toilet!
I think that was a really smart move. Most folks who do this quite often, see the value in the cassette vs the black tanks.
Very nice Road trailer. Still not a big fan of the aluminum frames due to stress fractures. Having two kitchens does seem to take away a lot of storage area. But who doesn't like two TVs on outside one inside. Permanent bed setup just wouldn't work. Way too small. Always love the videos
Good point. I am a big fan of the aluminum frames for your average camper. But, for where you go. You are absolutely right. I like the bones of this trailer. I think if I got my hands on this, I could remove a number of things and make a few modifcations and really like what I end up with. The only stuggle I think I would have in the end would be dry weight, height, and tongue weight.
I agree with you it does have great bones. But if you were to take out that bathroom and put in a pantry so you could extend the bed on that one side would sure help. How do you like pass-throughs? I kind of like them.
I'm surprised people don't see the value of the pass through. To me it eliminates redudant items or eliminates walking from your galley to the inside of the camper on numerous occasions. I don't need a large pass through like the Bean. It is great, don't get me wrong. I designed our camper to have a "full" 'pass through. but really all you need is a small space that stores multi-use items like toothbrushes, flashlights, blankets, etc. The beauty of the full pass through though is now you have full access to food and snacks from both sides. It doesn't mean much in something like a Bean. But if you had a small prep area and one burner stove inside, it could be very useful. @@sierramantrvlnus
Agreed, 100 percent
Cooktop next to tv in galley,grease all over the screen
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Ok this is the cutest….and would be even cuter in my possession. 😂
RIGHT! My thoughts exactly.
When I first responded to this, I didn't even realize it was you. HI SARAH!
It does seem perfect... except that short bed on one side...
Hey my friend! I'm going to wish you a Happy New Year here. I thought I would beat you to it!
@@PlayingwithSticks You did! 😀
Happy New Year! 🥂🍾
22 meters high!! Wow!! 😂
Haha. Sounds like I didn't do a good job of proofing my text huh?
A Yeti cooler in the rear galley ? Seriously? There’s all this electronic gear, including a TV, and NuCamp can’t install a 12v refrigerator back there? There’s only a thousand models to choose from! 🤣🤦♀️ With what this cost it is the least they can do!
These are not affordable. Most of these are $30,000-$45,000. Better off buying a larger travel trailer with far more amenities
I love it!! I would like options!! I want an off road version not crazy but a little higher also not retro more sporty..also the two kitchens are excellent..I wouldn’t want the cook top inside. Just the microwave and coffee pot and sink and fridge would be perfect inside…and yes the cooler should be on a slide….how quickly can I get these specs because I would buy one today! Oh and get rid of the tvs…takes to much space. Otherwise I love it!
What? A "cassette toilet?" I've never heard of such a thing. That's a plastic box that get's filled with sh*t and urine and there's no way to keep it clean. Am I the only one who thinks this is gross? You'd have to use gloves and a mask every time you dump it and there's no way to clean drips around the edges. I don't know about this. Please educate me.
Why on earth would you have a telly in a caravan❓ it’s crazy, I wouldn’t have one in my home… let alone in nature. Dumb dumb box.
PS like the caravan though.
Tv in the galley, 2 kitchens, a bed that splits in half top and bottom instead of left and right, no vent in the bath, that toilet paper roll holder is gonna leak at some point, I came in with high hopes but this trailer seems incredibly poorly designed. Lots of wasted space, and why would you put 2 of *anything* in a 13' long trailer?
Who needs two galleys? And two big screen TVs,? Why don't we throw a propane plug on the side so we can cook in 3 different places,,, seems like a total waste,,, of money ,,,good luck 😂
“You can take the cassette to any toilet, then just dump it out.” There are several hilarious videos here on YT of people who believed this and dumped cassettes a first time at home or worse, in restaurant or library bathrooms…..and instantly regretted it.
I haven’t ever used a cassette toilette, so can’t say, but many say it is ridiculously pungent beyond even what they expected, and you would generally NOT want to use any toilet that others would use over the next 3 or so hours, more if not well ventilated.
Many use cassette toilets just fine, but be careful of where you plan to dump it and “any toilet” may be not quite correct, at least if being decent to others using the same bath room.
Can’t understand why in such a small trailer you need two kitchens! Wasted space to my mind. And two large screen tvs? Really?
the TV in the outdoor galley is a weird feature. I'd be inside if I want to watch TV and nowadays, everyone has an ipad, so even an indoor tiny TV is near pointless unless you're still watching DVD's.
Wish there was an option to ditch the interior kitchen. I never want to cook inside a small trailer, even if it's raining. It stinks everything up. I'd much prefer to use the outside kitchen and stand under the awning. I think having 2 kitchens is kind of a waste of space TBH. It'd be awesome if they offered a second model with more storage space and no interior kitchen.
Why does NuCamp always have to put a TV in their small campers! That back area is just wasted space for the TV! Like I have a phone!
Sorry very nice but way to fancy for me, I liked the lady that had next to nothing and could move furniture with hers very cool but for some this could be perfect.
Not understanding the dual kitchens. I would prefer IMO the kitchen in the rear to have a grill and the rest storage for a bike, etc. It's all about storage for me.
Do you offer a warmer wood tone interior? I find the gray metal back splashes and cabinets to be so cold. Other than that it’s perfect.
First of all it is too heavy second of all should have a fan in the toilet and in the bathroom probably two Vince would be good it is a small bathroom and I think you only need one cooking area but I do like you can walk in the trailer
Great video Drew. This camper has lots of smart features but for me it’s just not tall enough. Instead of that extra width, a better opportunity for additional space could have been vertically applied. Many of these tear drops with this level of engineering come so close to competing with larger campers. A bit more standing room would go a long way.
Glad you enjoyed the video. My thoughts are once you get a trailer this tall, you probably aren't too concerned about aero. So I'm guessing adding some more additional height wouldn't be too concerning for most. In reality I think this trailer beats most of the larger campers in terms of build quality. But, like you said, they are cramming quite a bit into a small space. So it is hard to compare the two in terms of usability.
They nailed the retro look, it’s a real head turner. But the redundancy in features negates efficiency which, IMO, is the key to good small trailer design.
Really good point you have. I am okay with the redundancy if it is small scale. Meaning 1 full outdoor kitchen with an indoor counter with one burner. Just enough indoor space for breakfast and occasional wet weather hangouts.
Rather have it look like something from Sci fi than 100 years old right when you get it
I'd rather have just the outside galley, and use the interior space for a full bathroom.
I don't need two kitchens just the rear one would do just fine no TV more shelf or cabinets in side and out don't like the side table.
Standing room for 5'9"...but probably not for 6'1"
There should be an option to have storage only in the front rather than 2 kitchens. It would be lighter and cheaper.
I wouldn’t want the galley in the back. I want it in the camper itself.
So it’s impossible to make one huge bed?
Sorry, I think I didn't explain that well. If you look again there is one shot with the huge bed. The issue is making a bed and a table at the same time and both of them beinig useful. A big bed works great!
@@PlayingwithSticks thank you
Why in the world would you put ac and heating ducts in an Outside Kitchen?
I would rather have a short teardrop than one that is 5'9". I'm 5'11" and I hit my head so hard I almost passed out in a T@B. This one doesn't solve that problem. I think having an indoor and an outside kitchen in this is very redundant. I would rather have more storage or an entertainment area in one or the other. I love your reviews and they saved me a lot of time in shopping for a small camp trailer. This trailer would be a hard pass for me. But like I said, thank you for showing this to us so I don't have to try to find one in person. Keep up the great videos.
Pat
Strong Canned Ham Vibes in this trailer. Kind of like a teardrop and a canned ham had a baby. Still too much trailer for me and still doesn't fit the traditional "teardrop" category. No vent is needed on the bathroom because they're using the main vent for that. Massive gap at the top of the bathroom door. That's their logic. I would not like that for humidity/smells/privacy but I see why. The roofline is also too curved above the shower to mount a traditional vent. However, they could, likely, make a 6" round fan work (also a Maxfan like their main fan). Ok. I'm done nerding out! ha ha. Another canned ham from NuCamp.
You nailed it with canned ham and teardrop having a baby. Would you call this a standy technically? I pictured myself gutting one of these and being quite happy with it. My dream trailer, in terms of kitchen, would be a full galley kitchen and a small one burner with counter space indoors for morning toast and inclement weather. This is what Charles and I were about to reveal. I saw this trailer with different eyes after building ours. When I walked inside it, I was picturing it almost 60% gutted. Removing all the extras and replacing them with storage. I've always wanted a fiberglass egg style camper, but with a galley kitchen. I'm interested to take a look at Bend Teardrop's new camper. They are getting close to what I have been eager to see in the market. They are calling it the "Tall Boy." www.bendteardrop.com/product/tall-boy-stand-in-teardrop
I also thought about the trailer you guys were working on. I feel like I know that trailer inside an out after the hours of conversations I've had about it! ha ha. That bend trailer is interesting.
I wish there was a clear category for this type of trailer. Canned ham isn't right, Teardrop isn't right. It creates so much confusion in the teardrop market when NuCamp calls these teardrops. We're constantly educating people.
@@PlayingwithSticks
I don’t understand the TVs. We don’t watch much TV now (use an iPad or laptop if we want it). Why clutter up a small camper with two huge TVs?
Yes, we get this comment a lot. Seems like there are better alternatives in 2023.
Why have two cooking spaces in a year drop that small?
Cool little RV. NuCamp is the real deal but get your checkbook ready!
Yes! Especially in a month. Right now I see closeout prices at $24,500 in multiple locations across the country. But, I bet it will be hard to find the asking price for less than $40,000 soon. We are seeing this with a lot of manufacturers lately. The slowing sales have brought with them some really low prices for late 2023. I'm interested to see if this is a forecast of the small camper industry or just a small lag in sales.
Yeah- we just closed the deal today at $24k. These are identical to the Nucamp modals. For the price, you can’t lose. Nucamp are not cheap and this unit has everything.
Beautiful camper!
It really is!
Cool looking camper, but at 5'11" and fat, I'm gonna say "Nay Nay" (John Pinette).. I like the fact there's a Luna in the background 😮..
My biggest surprise this summer was realizing at 5'11 I fit very well in a 5'9" camper. Hard to explain until you get inside one. But I never felt like I was standing awkwardly. Maybe I am shrinking. haha. Even Little Guy's Micro Mini Max or whatever it is called at 5'9" felt really good to me as well. However, I am a skinny guy. Like I need to eat multiple extra meals a day and lift weights to stay looking fairly normal. And even I find most of these trailers just too tight. If I was bigger a trailer like this would not be comfortable at all. Funny you mentioned John. He must be trending on UA-cam right now. My dad just suggest his buffet jokes to me yesterday. I think you and I talked about this. But, if not, did you here that Intech has now moved to propane heaters on most of their models? Love it!
I think you did mentioned that Intech switched to propane, but i believe its on their Flyer and Sol series though and the Luna is an electric heater. But i could be wrong.. My old Eureka tent I still use is only 53" tall and it works, so I understand what your saying Drew 😂.. As much as I am drawn to the Luna, I'm leaning more towards the ATC Sta 350 Adventure for the fact that Im getting older and I can haul "everything" in it, 🤔plus!.. Hoobilly
Too tall to fit in average garage beautiful retro style awesome otherwise
With your boondocking, I don't see the appeal of a wider trailer with lower ground clearance over a Tab in Boondock dress. Our Tab is the same width as our tow vehicle, and that's far more comfortable on both the highway and especially on doubletrack. I'm not a fan of vinyl upholstery and the propane-only heating is a big step down from the Tab's Alde heat and hot water IMHO. TV in the galley? Really? Is there 12V behind the Yeti cooler to provision a 12V cooler? As to bed space and configuration, I'd want to sleep across the width of that wide trailer, not scrunched into that cramped bed length.
Good points here. I agree with every one of them. The majority of the features do not speak to us. But, I just envision stripping it down and I really like what this trailer has to offer. Essentially, I like the concept behind it, especially if this was bare bones. As for clearance, we don’t put much stock in clearance. We have taken all sorts of trailers out boondocking, clearance is rarely if ever the limiting factor for us. Most often with our smaller tow vehicles the limiting factor is the tongue dragging. Would we take a Boondock package over this? Absolutely! But it wouldn’t be a dealbreaker for us at all. Thanks for all the feedback on this I think you have really good eyes.
The outside is super cute, but I wish the interior looked vintage. Maybe the seats pass for 40’s (and I like the layout and couch/bed) but nothing else- appliances, wood, floors, look remotely vintage. And I’d ruin those whitewalls on my first camping trip…
That is a good point.
Can we order one without the kitchen in the back even though the kitchen is more suitable inside.?. &, Allowing the back for storage for chairs, outside table, ice chest &, clothing.?. Plus, what about a small 32” tv.. &, yes the shower area does need a vent to blowout the steam and moisture that creates mole on the walls.!. That would be suitable for any outdoor Adventures.!.😊🎉🙏🏽😇👍
It would be nice if they had a few layouts to choose from. But, I think it is just this one. Thanks for the feedback.
2 kitchens?! Nope. There’s little enough room in a trailer without duplicating services. All the space used for either of these kitchens could have gone to sporting equipment storage, or a better bathroom, clothing space, even a far, far better seating & sleeping areas. I know you ares excited and it looks really vintage, but I’m looking for efficiency and comfort. This trailer just doesn’t fit my bill. It’s cute to look at, which is always pleasing. I think I’ll stick to my goal of a Vistabule still.
Vistabule is a noble goal. Thank you for the feedback, I really appreciate it.
It's pretty, but according to the tag at 12:19 it also cost more than my house did. Ain't NO teardrop camper on Planet Earth worth over Forty Large, I don't care who you are.
I'll keep my three-year-old T@G XL, thanks...
Haha. Yes, the prices are crazy. Right now there seems to be a surplus of inventory. Across the country I am seeing this model going for $25,500. I have a feeling these closeouts will be gone by the New Year. But, that is quite a big difference from $44K. Crazy mark ups on these.
Cute, BUT. These mfrs need to make these more modular so they’re easily customizable. I want to be all elec with an all-in-one solar bank that I can take out to use in tent etc. Composting toilet, no cassette. Either outside kitchen or inside, not both. No TV or speakers. Like the wet bath but needs venting. Definitely don’t like the bench/bed material. So basically I’d have to re-do the whole thing. Too bad, it’s cute but impractical.
I would love a bit more modularity in this design. I like the bones of this trailer. Like you, I would have to remove a number of items and make my own upgrades to this trailer. But after all that work, I think I would have a pretty nice little camper, minus the weight and height.
Is the outdoor TV supposed to have a remote? How do you turn it on??
i need something for a family of 4
So here are my thoughts. We have an older, small 17 ft toy hauler that is dry weight about 3500lbs ( fully standing height but not as tall as other standing trailers and fits only one 4wheeler at best). It is better, heavier gauge frame ( since it's toy hauler) than standard trailers which we like. It is lighter because the hatch flips up and not down like other toy haulers and door is thinner/ lighter unlike load bearing hatch. It allows us to add magnetic screen to the back and have the hatch open to entire trailer, allows easy loading in of everything or sitting on our fold-able bed and enjoy outdoors. It also gives you option of adding three sided over the open hatch screen and have cooking outside but still have inside kitchenette. We have a wet bath with top manual mini vent.
I say that window should be placed higher (shower head height), glass should be frosted and window should have an option to pop open and that would solve ventilation issue. Yes you need ventilation since you still dealing with water/ moisture and of course farting/ stool smell if one does use the toilet.
Next, Get rid of flip up shelf doors at the bed/ dinette. If you have two people sitting next to each other, one has to move all the way away from cabinet to open it. There should be nice set of sliding doors and that would save space. As far as beds, get rid of sink behind the toilet, since it is in weird position anyway, push the toilet back (that would add extra needed inches -I am thinking at least 6" ). In any event, that would allow for longer bed behind the bathroom and position the front door so both sides of sitting area are longer and allow, at least for 2 adults and a kid sleeping area. I would like to know what total bench length that would make and if that would allow sleeping the lengthwise ?
So far, I do not seem to see small trailer other than Tab 400, to fit our needs better than what we have in our toy hauler. We need to check if we can convert our wet bath toilet with black tank to cassette toilet and perhaps get rid of black tank all together.
If this trailer would make changes that I have mentioned, it would be contender for us to make a switch to even lighter trailer. In Alaska we have a very short, warm season, so I like indoor kitchen and wet bath option ( I am older and hard shell tenting is behind me now LOL).
This is the best looking teardrop I've ever seen. I'd much rather have outdoor-only cooking, because I don't like sleeping in kitchens (food smells permeate) and I'm unshakably set on never having a wet camper. Still, this is an awesome camper with way more features than I thought they could pack into such a small unit. It's right at the max I'd tow with my Wrangler, but doable.
Nice retro looking unit but way too many missed opportunities on space usage. No need for a full 2nd kitchen and a microwave is pointless. Two tv’s is crazy. I wouldn’t even want one. Storage cabinets in there place. Give me room for a chest fridge/freezer on a slider. Forget the made to assemble bed with all the gaps and just have a full time mattress bed and a bench seat with a lagoon table in place of the 2nd kitchen. Money better spent on an awning and solar panels. But I do like the shower/ toilet as long as there is room for it here.
Great feedback here. I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts.
AC on floor may inhibit the heat at upper levels
It is too heavy for me and my tow vehicle. I wish they had left out the full interior kitchen and left just storage with a counter. I wonder about the electrical draw with two fridges, and If I needed to cook inside, I would have been able to do so with just a counter, but it isn't really one of my goals. I do like the windows. I wish more builders use double panes.
Yes, it would be nice if this came with multiple layouts. You sound like us. We want a full galley and just a counter with one burner inside. This way we can make coffee and toast in the morning before going outside and have a convenient way to make simple meals on a rainy day. I have that same wish about the windows. I am seeing more and more people add them to their builds each year. Even the Meerkat 2024 model now has dual pane acrylic windows.
@@PlayingwithSticks, I try to keep some no cook options around for rainy days, but then again, I don't have kids along.
@@cherylbarrett3443 I think that represents us now as well. In Alaska that wasn't very feasible because almost every other day was a rainy day. But in the lower 48 it is pretty easy to stay away from the bad weather.
I would give away the front rack for the extra foot width. However, I would only for an S version; not for a CS-S (clamshell) version.
I never even thought about that. There is something kind of magical about that extra foot of width. It just felt so good inside.