The TV in the rear galley is a big waste of space in my opinion also not too sure I would want dual galleys, I know it might be nice in inclement weather but I think I would rather utilize that space for extra storage. Love the bigger bed and the cassette toilet though. Thanks Drew !
I love the retro-styling and I noticed the extra, albeit slight, counter space inside, but all in all, not worth the extra 500# by including two kitchens and two TVs in such a tiny trailer. Thx for the tour! 😊
Exactly, how badly do you want to watch TV? The rear (or the front, if you prefer) could be far better used for more storage space or tank capacity, etc. My Casita (yes, they are dated looking as hell) weighs the same as this trailer but has way more room inside for the same weight. I think this looks very cool but it is not the most practical application out there. As for the cassette toilet, if you are one of those folks that has "black tank phobia" are you really going to be better off tsking the cassette to the dump station every 2 days? It seems to me that handling the same chore more times is not the solution that works best. And no vent fan in the toilet/shower is a non starter, too.
@@richardhouvener6423 The cassette can be dumped into a vault toilet or a regular toilet, like at a rest area. I do empty mine covertly and also use disposable gloves, disinfectant spray, and paper towels, as needed. I'm a single camper and like most campers, I use public facilities when possible, so I don't have to empty the cassette very often. As far as a fan, I think they left quite a gap at the top of the door so the big fan in the living area takes care of moisture and any "odors," which don't bother me since I'm alone LOL, plus I always add a deodorizer to the emptied cassette, plus some water per instructions (I also rinse the cassette with some water after it's emptied).
Is there a kitchen wall option? I wouldn’t want to be cooking out in the pouring rain as that roof won’t do the job! Also do they have a padded mattress topper? There are SO MANY crevices!
I love retro looking trailers and Nu Camp nailed that look on this camper! Love the height and the width on this trailer. So my Pro’s are spacious interior, retro look and nice bed/table area with moving the table to the other side. My con’s are that with that extra width that they could have come up with an awesome layout to the galley and I feel like this is lacking, my personal opinion is a bathroom in such a small trailer is like putting an elevator in an outhouse. With such a spacious interior I would have loved to see what they could do with this trailer by leaving the bathroom out. I also feel like they could have done something really innovative with a bunk bed system. Hope you are enjoying some wonderful coffee!
An elevator in an outhouse 😂I'm going to have to use that analogy some time. It would be really neat to see them offereing multiple layouts on a trailer like this. I literally read your line about the coffee, while taking a sip of the most high end coffee known to man, Nescafe instant coffee enhanced for the Thai pallet. Haha. I haven't had a good coffee in two weeks. I'll use this as an excuse to take the boys out to the jungle and find some good coffee. I always appreciate the support Brad! I think you will enjoy our next video. I shot the majority of it in the woods here. It felt good to use the camera on one of my hikes. Happy New Year to you and your family Brad!
@@PlayingwithSticks HA! I thought you might like that analogy! Sorry you are drinking substandard coffee!! Hope you can get some of the good stuff soon!! Happy New Year to you and your family as well! I look forward to the next vid!!
This definitely has some positives and is a very cute trailer. I can see the appeal for a lot of people. Don’t like two kitchens. Seems a waste of space. The TV outside is hilarious. It’s pretty geared toward camping in established campgrounds. Nothing wrong with that. You and I feel the same about bathrooms in small trailers. The only positive would be cold weather times. That camp toilet outside is pretty chilly to the tushy. I would rather close up my bag and toss it in the trash (I use the right things to make this okay) than to empty that in a toilet somewhere. Those dome hubcaps are gonna pop off pretty fast on some forest and WMA roads.
Good points you have here my friend. Don't say that about the dome hubcaps! You are killing my nostalgic dreams. Two things I have always wanted...Retro fenders and baby moons. Mark from Bean tells me with my style of camping I will rip those fenders up the first month. And now you tell me I will lose the full or baby moons! Everyone who knows me knows I can be a little bull headed. I still want to prove everyone wrong. I want to take out a retro trailer all over the backcountry and bring it out in one piece. That was something Charles and I were working hard on. We were making a lot of reinforcements on the body and the paint process to take a retro trailer through the toughest terrain. He guaranteed it would work and as usual I was skeptical until I saw it play out in the wild. Haha. Like you, I am not very optimistic about it. But, boy would it be fun to take a retro styled trailer all over the country and it still holds up.
The 2 kitchens are nonsense and a waste of space. I would rather see a bunk bed instead for a family. It's not fiberglass like the scamp or Casita, how leak proof is this?
It is a nice trailer. Nevertheless, the point you raised about flipping the 'lagoon table' mount immediately struck me, long before you mentioned it. My thoughts exactly. Taking advantage of the longer sided bed and by doing so, taking advantage of the shorter sofa/couch makes far more sense. This is something that I agree they can easily and quickly remedy - unless like yourself, I too am missing something. Another of my pet-hates or dislikes is that if manufacturers are going to put top opening fridges/cool boxes under counter-tops, then they should always be on a slide-out shelf/rails. They are completely ignoring the realities of life that once the cook has gotten everything out of the fridge/cool box and is busily preparing, there will always be a spouse/partner or child that wants to get a drink out of it and will not wait. Furthermore, if you are required to take out the cool box or fridge from its storage position, that is no easy task when it is full of heavy drinks or food. As for the wet-room, it definitely needs a window that can open or preferably a vent. That would remedy the necessity for a silly gap on the door and allow it to close fully to prevent unpleasant smells getting out. Not to mention stopping steam from the shower raising the humidity of the trailer. Three things that would make this trailer go from good to great.
Andrew I really appreciate that you took the time to give feedback here. These are the comments that someone looking for a trailer will benefit from. Great point on the slide out. I don't think I have ever mentioned that in a video. I am going to have to remember to keep my eye out for trailers that lack this so I can make that point in the future.
I thought I would chime in as an UT owner... Love it!!! I am 6'2". The extra width bed is fantastic. Having two kitchens is used by us all the time... While I am grilling in the back, wife is making sauces and baking (Omnia oven) in from. I have the full bar set up in back (along with espresso machine) and can pass cocktails through to her inside. The Bosch hot water heater in not tankless but 2.5 gallons. enough for a quick shower. It reheats in ~15 minutes. We even use the TV in back when tailgating . It never fails to be the source of turning heads and meeting new friends while on the road.
I agree that table mount should be moved over. I'm a single camper with dog and a full time bed and table are on my must have list. I don't need tv or entertainment center or microwave though . I like the extra width and height, but not sure I need 2 kitchens.
I think all those extra amenities can be easily removed and really open up that space. But, that kitchen that is there to stay. Haha. I would like a second kitchen, but just a counter and a one burner stove for light breakfasts and rainy days. I think this would be a great option for one person and a dog. I also like how the kitchen is in the front. It makes it live a bit bigger inside. That trailer Charles and I were working on. I think that would have been a great fit for your scenario. We never got to show it off, but everything revolved around the "living area." We designed it live more spaciously. It had fold down tables, seats, and a good amount of room for dogs, bikes, family eating/board games, etc. I hope somebody comes up with a design like that one day. Small, but a smart use of space.
Not just the shower that vents out…. Ick. Bathrooms in a small space. It’s so challenging to find a trailer with seating/convertible bed and a galley but NO bathroom inside!
Shouldn't be pooping in there unless it's an emergency. I have a trenching tool for digging a latrine hole while boondocking. The camper bathroom is for middle of the night pee sessions only.
I agree with alot of the comments. TV in the gally is a waste of space. Put it inside. Not a fan of dual kitchens, micowave and shower. Like the toilet though. If you remove the inside kitchen, microwave and shower maybe you could fit a bunk?
May and I were both a littel shocked when we realized there was two tvs. One inside and one outside. Could point on the bunk. It would e neat if they offered a few different layouts.
With trailers like this, I never know where the prices really. One dealership has a sticker for $49K, another $44K, and then quite a few at $25,900 and the odd $25,500. Such a wide range!
Pretty trailer. Love the style. Always thought galleys in a camper this small is a waste of space. People cook out using a grill when they go camping the majority of the time. Who wants to pay 1000s extra for a galley that they'll likely use to make coffee and maybe cook some eggs? A camping stove is cheap.
Interesting. It is fun to hear the counter argument on here. We don't hear many arugments against a galley kitchen. Thank you for sharing Susan. Love it!
All anyone needs is a jetboil genesis that you can take outside to cook on when warm and in winter you can use inside. Tv in small trailer this size? I can watch movies on my laptop.
I love the older NuCamps. I prefer the black tank so i dont have to roll my waste around camp. I prefer the bed setup on the 320 with the complete U. The storage and setting are more ample. Not needing a one person lightweight yet, but I'll be ready when I am.
Very nice looking trailer. I agree with other comments about the cooler/fridge area needing a slide, ditch the TVs and I still worry about getting this trailer out in the back-country. Hub caps & fenders tend to take a beating over time. If I were staying on pavement or well maintained gravel roads though, this is a gamer.
As a proud new owner of this trailer, I got a great deal on it. Personally, as a single woman, the ability to cook inside is a huge benefit to me as a late night snacker! When I camp with friends, I’m sure the outdoor TV and kitchen will be a big hit!
With space at a premium, I wouldn’t want two kitchens. I also reject that low rear end. I can hear that rear edge scraping on the driveway. However, I love my 2023 T@B 320 sb.
I understand that space concern. In a perfect world our family would have a full galley kitchen and then just a small burner in the front of the trailer for small breakfasts and rainy days. I can hear that scraping as well. But with my smaller tow vehicles it is rarely the rear of the camper and more often scraping on the tongue. What does the SB stand for in your model? Is that standard bed configuation?
The toilet is cassette? I’d hate to hear the mix tapes. The pass through from the galley is a big plus. But it needs one of those little bells that short order cooks hit when the order is up. Detail. A hybrid bed setup for work and sleep. This is a win. Almost. I’d get that lagun flipped. Very nice and thorough review.
Now lets remember, these kind of campers can accept big docking tents. while it takes time to set up, and can add a few 100 lbs of "gear" to a trip. This can add an extra 10' of width to the trailer. This means you COULD set up a wood stove, 2-3 extra beds... parents can sleep in doors, kids could sleep in the tent, with a stove jack and wood stove, you can to cooking in that tent too giving you a 3ed point of cooking + you have the electric power on that side. With the electric outlets on this side and shore power on the other, this leads to an interesting option where the tent section has access to the shore power THROUGH the camper, allowing everything from electric heaters, separate AC units, or any appliances including TV and Game console outside for the kids in the tent area...
You know I appreciate how you think! People often make comments on our channel about "what are you going to do when the kids get big" or "good luck when you kids get big." I think they just don't understand our family's needs. Even our house is only 900 square feet and that is more than we need. For us it is about having the neccesities and then from there, like you said, we can just build outward with our outdoor living room. Yes, we will continue to tent camp with our boys. But, I also want the luxury of teardrop camping as well. Having a docking tent allows us the best of both worlds. The boys get a little autonomy and that outdoor experience we all grew up loving, and May and I still get some of our creature comforts. I think next summer we might actually forgo the galley in exchange for a different outdoor kitchen setup. Like people are saying here in the comments the galley does reduce the usable living space inside the trailer. We took out the new Bean Stock this fall. And I was shocked how big a little camper can live, even for a family of four. As long as everything is outside, you don't need a whole lot of space inside.
@@PlayingwithSticks I always look at the camper- the trailer - as the center point for modular systems. Its your safety point, your emergancy fall back, and your primary retreat for serious weather. BUT it is also the hub. with the option to add on to it with out tents, with out structures, with power lines running from the camper to other points... with water and power running TO the camper then distributed. You might for example, be running 600 watts external solar + a water purification system that feeds to the trailer... the trailers tanks store the water, its water heater warms it, its batteries store the power... then from there it can be disributed to other points. This is my only dislike to the camper. because of its size and shape, without extending the tongue and adding on weight there, you can't do something like, switching form 1 20 to 2x 30 pound tanks. You can't add 3 more big batteries. i wouldn't have minded a battery box with its own access BELOW the propane tanks. where you could mount up to 4 batteries. THEN the tank bay being able to be "enlarged" to hold up to 2 30 pounders...
I saw a couple of younger folks in California doing something similar to this. Their camper was used as a base station for work, but it also functioned as their home. During work hours they had a really neat system for utilizing the trailer to process or handle external inputs. One guy was using his for telecommunication. Lots of wires and dodads coming in that I didn't understand. Inside there was a lot of processing going on. He said the biggest struggle was keeping the camper cool in that scenario. @@jenniferstewarts4851
Extra width is great! Table mount DOES need to be shifted _OR_ duplicated - - if only as an option. ¿What will happen to _ALL_ _THE_ _MOISTURE_ once you finish showering?
I'm hearing from other comments that the gap in the door is designed to allow the Maxx-Air fan to pull that moisture out. LIke you, I was worried about that condensation.
I really like the style. The rest of it not as much. Not a fan of the outside galley kitchens, if I want to cook outside I will either be using a fire or a grill otherwise cooking inside on the gas stove isn't that big of a deal and I like the option to be able to cook out of the weather. As far as the bathroom, if you look at the door there is a huge gap at the top so the moist air will go out through here, I am assuming there is a fan out in the main area. I still like the 400 better I like not having to set up the bed all the time. They could have set the table mount to the wall so you could just flip it up instead. I also don't like pass throughs they seem useless to me.
Thanks for solving that fan question for me. So simple, but I just couldn't see it. I'm with you on the bed comment. The beauty of the pass through is to eliminate dual items. Most people use them as a storage area for things that will be used both inside and outside the trailer. We use ours often.
I guess an indoor kitchen would be nice for some, but I'd take an outdoor kitchen only, no microwave, no TV. Actually, no shower either, though I do like the cassette toilet. Apparently it's too much camper and too much weight for me & my Subaru Forrester. Nice tour, though .
When I imagine myself stripping this camper down and making a few modifications, it actually is up there as one of my favorite campers. But as is, it defintely is lower in the pack. Like you, I wish the weight was a lot lower as well. I used to grumble about this a lot, but I have almost given up. How come you have Scamp trailers that are that big, weiging only 1,000lbs, and last decades on the road; yet we can't build a teardrop near that size and keep it under 2,000lbs. Charles and I were determined to make it happen. I mean he was going to make that trailer even 50% lighter than I was originallly shooting for.
Good stuff as usual Drew. The interior seems more similar to the Tab 320 S. I guess the CSS comparison is because of the outdoor kitchen. Agree with the lack of a exhaust fan above the wet bath being something overlooked. You know me so here we go again...How hard or expensive would it be to have 2 more solar panels up top? Atleast 300 watts should be more common. Also, with all these portable power stations (Bluetti, Jackery, Ecoflow...) becoming more popular and cheaper, when are manufacturers going to put a second 30A or 20A outlet inside the trailer that would provide power to all things inside the trailer like the outdoor shore power inlet does? If you spend over a thousand dollars on a Bluetti you wouldn't want it outside exposed to the elements or theft. The outside of this trailer looks cool being retro. But all in all I'd prefer the 320 S without the outdoor kitchen to allow longer front to back oriented bed length and space. Thankyou Drew. You always bring us much to think about and consider.
Yes, you are right. Much more similar to the 320S. To me it is a compromised layout of the 320s, with the benefit of a galley kitchen. I'm with you on the solar. I have been saying 200. But, I wouldn't mind 300. We put 400 on our new camper. And it really wasn't that expensive when you go with a renogy panel. Our second panel was from Bouge RV because I wanted to test CIGS vs Standard technology. Guess I won't be doing that any time soon. Good point on the adapter inside for attaching a power station. That is the same problem we had the last two summers with our converted cargo trailer. I could only use the power station outside, but I wanted it inside. Glad you enjoyed the video. I dont' think there has been one person yet in the comments who has said, yep this is the trailer for me.
I am curious to know the differences about the solar panel that you install from Bouge RV, I have a 320s and I want to add more solar panel, I am wondering if it's worth the price differences from the regular Renogy which is almost half the price, also what is the best way to attach in order not fly away when driving, since I heard it happened to some people. Thank you
I went on about 12 trips last year, and only cooked outside once. I prefer an indoor kitchen. I don't need a TV, stereo, or an outside kitchen, and I really don't like using coolers. As a 5'2" solo camper, I like the bed setup.
Wow, you have a thriving channel! I have never seen it. I am embarrassed that I have not found your channel. It is like everything I love all in one place. I saw you went to a fiberglass trailer rally. Was that a one time thing or an annual rally? I would love to experience that. Still on the search for our perfect vintage fiberglass trailer. Your cadet looks amazing! Thanks for sharing your feedback on this video. Much appreciated.
the whole point why some people like me love and want the T@B NuCamp "camp trailer" is because it's basically a tiny home on wheels you can easily tow with most any vehicle. And to live in. Not necessarily to just go "haha hehe" camping with. This camper would have to have the entire backsituation removed and gain a black tank because there are places you can only stay if you have a black tank. And this should also allow for more space for storage. Wonder if such was also made as a "side grade" other option?
Good point you have here. I was viewing this trailer more for folks who would be doing a mixed camping style of offgrid and shore power. I think there is only one layout, but multiple layouts would be a great option.
We own a 2023 Intech Sol Dawn that has a wet bath. It has a vent and I can't imagine it NOT having it, so I believe this to be a poor choice not to install it. I love the lagun table and I'm in agreement that it should have been mounted at the end, however in saying that, I believe they were thinking of an end table sort of function when designing it. I don't really know where I am with the two kitchens.....Our kitchen is inside when you walk in the door. We've used it exactly twice. Most of our cooking is on a flat griddle outside. I don't really care for the food odors in our camper. I think what I do love about this is the on demand hot water. We are installing solar in ours for off grid use....I don't see a lot of option for that in this model. And I want to add....I PERSONALLY would prefer a combination microwave, air fryer, convection oven. We use our stand alone air fryer out in the woods A LOT! The microwave we use on packout mornings so as to not have a lot to clean up before leaving the campsite. We will be solving our problem soon. As usual Drew, you do a great job.....really enjoy your videos! :)
Love hearing insights from people in the field. Great tip by the way on microwave food the day of camp teardown. If you haven't tried airfryer cookies while camping, I caution you. Do it at your own risk. They are amazing, take less than 10 minutes, and make camping even better. The risk, it is too easy! We found ourselves eating more cookies than we ever would eat beings it was so easy. haha. We have never tried an airfryer for anything, home or camp. Mark from Bean trailer suggest we take one out to make cookies. Wow! That is all I will say. Haha. Glad you are enjoying the videos.
The air fryer is a lunch time thing after coming in from a walk or just enjoying the sites! Cookies sound interesting, might have to try that....maybe with some ice cream! =D We live in a condo, so taking the flat griddle out is the thing since we can't do it at our home due fire regs. I get a lot of ideas from Neal @TheFlatTopKing and @CowboyKentRollins. Both of them have reminded me to embrace my love of cooking! It's one of the appeals of going camping. All three of you are enhancing the experience for us as we plan to take this on road for a bit! Your channel in particular was the reason we got back into camping as before this unit, we bought a teardrop from Tiny CamperCo. Lovely unit, but health reasons called for indoor facilities. You really do a great job with your reviews! @@PlayingwithSticks
I watched again. I really want a camper that size…..but. I had a 7 ft wide with stand up height interior for two years. I camp primarily in remote..ish campgrounds down two tracks or logging roads. I was beating that wider/trailer up every trip. I’ve ripped off jack stand wheels, awning covers, cover plates, collected limbs with solar panels. I need something that is no wider or taller with my vehicle with a canoe on top. Solitude comes with restrictions.
Seeing Sean out there showing this trailer took us back to the magical moment when you Drew , and Sean introduced us to the Meerkat. Well we bought that Meerkat essentially mail order, had to have it shipped from San Diego, CA to NJ. And more than 8,000 miles of touring/camping around the country our first year (11 National Parks) we couldn’t be happier. The only thing this one has that I might want to add to our Meerkat, is built in air conditioning (we have a portable unit). This brings me to the one big reason why we would not feel as comfortable with this camper and that is it is too short for my 6ft 4 inch husband. And secondly our Highlander Hybrid has a towing capacity of 3500 but we carry a great deal of gear/toys -bikes, Skottle-again at your recommendation Drew) side tent (especially made for the Meerkat) we are fun loving glamours so I fear we would max out and have to trim down what we bring. Thanks for doing these product demonstrations. We are living proof that they help others find products and campers that are the right fit for each of us. And about the Skottle when we mooch dock with friends we make them breakfast (and dinner if we’re there for more than one night) using the Skottle as it adds a little fun factor to our thanks for having us.
11 National Parks... I love it! Did you catch our little reference in the video to the bed extension on the Meerkat? That also is a nice tough for those taller folks. I will have to look up that custom Meerkat tent. I don't think I have seen it yet. I went out to see the Meerkat again this September. I can't seem to stay away from it. I just love that little trailer. Your comment really warms my heart. This is exactly why we make these videos. Speaking of the Skottle, we even use ours at home now. May and I just can't get enough of this style of cooking. I picked up a Blackstone this summer. I have been experimenting with it as well. If it weighed less it would probably be on every camping trip with me. I took it out on a few trips. But, the Skottle still reigns supreme in the campground. I've been experimenting with other brands like Southwest Disc to help folks find a more affordable option. But, I just really love the depth of the skottle pan. It is shallower than the others and I find that to be very adventageous. Especially for dinners like steak or fish.
Keep up the good work! Know that your posts are appreciated. And I did notice the little Meerkat plug. We hope you and your lovely family have a healthy and joyous 2024.
Is it OK to have battery and propane tank in the same compartment? Is there a vent so propane won't pool? Obviously there shouldn't be a leak, but still seems suboptimal.
Hard to find rules for smaller propane tanks. One site mentions OSHA but a lot of those rules are for filling locations and such. I see some rules about ventilation but hard for me to figure which apply in this case
Love it! My friend watched this video and had issues with that gap. I wasnt sure what to tell him. I'm looking forward to telling him, the reasoning behind the gap. Funny I overlooked that. THANK YOU!
This is the best looking teardrop I've ever seen. I'd much rather have outdoor-only cooking, because I don't like sleeping in kitchens (food smells permeate) and I'm unshakably set on never having a wet camper. Still, this is an awesome camper with way more features than I thought they could pack into such a small unit. It's right at the max I'd tow with my Wrangler, but doable.
What is the exterior height of this model? Is the 2025 CS-S model with indoor outdoor kitchen available yet? If so, did they upgrade the wet bath to have a vent? What’s the grey water capacity?
Always been a fan of Nu Camp as they seem to be nice builds for mass produced builders. TV and stereo seem silly especially in the galley. I bet you like those fenders and hubcaps! No mention of the brand name on interior components. Scars me a bit. With the short door I feel like a vent is not a deal killer.
You know it Bart! Those fenders and hubcaps scream Drew. Some day...some day. Good point on the brand names. I didn't even think of that. I was wondering what they used in place of the Alde system that they typically use in their other T@B campers. And I think most folks are in agreement with you on the door. Seems like the Maxx-Air fan gets it done. Good seeing you Bart! Get some turns in for me.
This is a hybrid of the T@B 320 S and CS-S, with the two kitchens. While the retro look is fun, the 320S has a longer bed and more clothing storage because no outdoor galley kitchen. (We cook outside on picnic tables, so no need for galley.) Two kitchens vs storage? Storage,hands down. I prefer the bench seating in the 320 S as well, with the backrest that ratchets up into different reclined positions. Two TVs is overkill too, since we don’t use the one we have as it is. No microwave either, as we opted for more storage space. And finally, we prefer the lighter 320 S (gas mileage! $$) and the width of our 320 S because it is the same width as our Honda Ridgeline, so if the truck can fit through an opening, then so can the trailer. Plus it’s easy to see traffic behind us in side rear view mirrors. So while this retro look is fun (like the Barefoot), we’ll keep our beloved T@B 320 S, which is absolutely perfect for us. 😊 (PS: The cassette toilet is awesome!)
Hello 👋 Sean! Nice to see you doing a video! If you recall, seeing your tour of the Meerkat on this channel is what made me decide on a Meerkat! After almost a year, I’m still loving my trailer! Thanks & Happy New Year!
I have a feeling Sean will see this comment in a few days. He is such a great guy. Which is why this was my second round hanging out with him. Glad to hear you are enjoying the Meerkat. Love that camper!
I'd drop the whole "outdoor" kitchen part for more space inside. the bath window needs to be frosted. Needs more robust exterior electrical/water connections. All that stuff on the floor makes it tough on any seniors if they have to fiddle with anything. YES, a bath vent is needed so you aren't suffocated by hot water humidity (or by doing Number 2 ;-P). Was that a solar panel on the roof?
Love it! If the tv isn’t able to swing out might be a little issue but other than that I adore it! And I have a smaller size SUV…Honda CRV…so not sure about towing ability…not that I’d go all over the country due to some health issues but would love to visit places in NC where I live!
They nailed the retro look, it’s a real head turner. But the redundancy in features negates efficiency which, IMO, is the key to good small trailer design.
Really good point you have. I am okay with the redundancy if it is small scale. Meaning 1 full outdoor kitchen with an indoor counter with one burner. Just enough indoor space for breakfast and occasional wet weather hangouts.
So here are my thoughts. We have an older, small 17 ft toy hauler that is dry weight about 3500lbs ( fully standing height but not as tall as other standing trailers and fits only one 4wheeler at best). It is better, heavier gauge frame ( since it's toy hauler) than standard trailers which we like. It is lighter because the hatch flips up and not down like other toy haulers and door is thinner/ lighter unlike load bearing hatch. It allows us to add magnetic screen to the back and have the hatch open to entire trailer, allows easy loading in of everything or sitting on our fold-able bed and enjoy outdoors. It also gives you option of adding three sided over the open hatch screen and have cooking outside but still have inside kitchenette. We have a wet bath with top manual mini vent. I say that window should be placed higher (shower head height), glass should be frosted and window should have an option to pop open and that would solve ventilation issue. Yes you need ventilation since you still dealing with water/ moisture and of course farting/ stool smell if one does use the toilet. Next, Get rid of flip up shelf doors at the bed/ dinette. If you have two people sitting next to each other, one has to move all the way away from cabinet to open it. There should be nice set of sliding doors and that would save space. As far as beds, get rid of sink behind the toilet, since it is in weird position anyway, push the toilet back (that would add extra needed inches -I am thinking at least 6" ). In any event, that would allow for longer bed behind the bathroom and position the front door so both sides of sitting area are longer and allow, at least for 2 adults and a kid sleeping area. I would like to know what total bench length that would make and if that would allow sleeping the lengthwise ? So far, I do not seem to see small trailer other than Tab 400, to fit our needs better than what we have in our toy hauler. We need to check if we can convert our wet bath toilet with black tank to cassette toilet and perhaps get rid of black tank all together. If this trailer would make changes that I have mentioned, it would be contender for us to make a switch to even lighter trailer. In Alaska we have a very short, warm season, so I like indoor kitchen and wet bath option ( I am older and hard shell tenting is behind me now LOL).
They wasted space by putting the second kitchen inside IMO. I would rather have a tiny seating area & storage inside in that location. Then the bed could remain a bed. Also agree with you on the table placement. We had a nucamp that had a vent in the bathroom & it was nice, not sure I would like this. I do like the other updates the have made but still would not go for this due to the indoor kitchen. The fridge should be an option in the yeti location. Two people standing up in there is tight. Great improvements & quality build as you mention jut not the layout for me.
You nailed it with layout. I think folks can build a great trailer, but that doesn't mean the layout is for everyone. I would love to see a couple different layouts on this version. But, beings this is custom made by NuCamp for Ultimate Toys that probably isnt very practical.
This is nice but too big and 2 kitchens seems like a lot. There should be a slide out for the cooler as it would be difficult to maneuver when it’s full of food and ice. The Lagun mount is probably easily moved or you can buy an additional mount. This is the first time I have seen a walkthrough of this version. Well done as usual!
NuCamp makes the best campers 😊 I love the retro exterior. I don't need two kitchens or even one TV. I don't want a stereo or a Yeti cooler. I do need a comfortable bed and a much lighter camper. This one's setup is not for me.
I would rather have a short teardrop than one that is 5'9". I'm 5'11" and I hit my head so hard I almost passed out in a T@B. This one doesn't solve that problem. I think having an indoor and an outside kitchen in this is very redundant. I would rather have more storage or an entertainment area in one or the other. I love your reviews and they saved me a lot of time in shopping for a small camp trailer. This trailer would be a hard pass for me. But like I said, thank you for showing this to us so I don't have to try to find one in person. Keep up the great videos. Pat
Yes! Especially in a month. Right now I see closeout prices at $24,500 in multiple locations across the country. But, I bet it will be hard to find the asking price for less than $40,000 soon. We are seeing this with a lot of manufacturers lately. The slowing sales have brought with them some really low prices for late 2023. I'm interested to see if this is a forecast of the small camper industry or just a small lag in sales.
Yeah- we just closed the deal today at $24k. These are identical to the Nucamp modals. For the price, you can’t lose. Nucamp are not cheap and this unit has everything.
I tested a 1 year old Tab 400 for a night last year and I was surprised by how much wear was already visible. The window shades didn’t work well and some were broken. The weight when towing wet must have been close to 4,000 lbs and it was like a sail in the wind. It was also a very tight galley kitchen. The bathroom already smelled like a camper bathroom and the front table/bed was not suitable for adults as either a table or a bed. The main vent fan was very loud and rattled and every time someone used the water the pipes shook in the walls. All of this in a $35k+ one year old camper. I think I’ll stick to tent camping. Camper build quality hasn’t changed.
Thank you for sharing this. These types of comments are priceless. Like you, I have seen the shade issues on both NuCamp trailers and Little Guy Trailers. Even on brand new models I see them getting caught. We have had quite a few comments about the shades in other videos. Essentially the consensus from owners is that you have to treat them very gently. And some just come up with their own solutions. That weight and height you mentioned, I can see how that would be a big issue. The tight fit has always been one of my issues with this style of trailer. That one extra foot of width on this model reallly changed how that felt. Plus having the kitchen up front vs. on the side of the trailer made a big difference as well. Your comment is painful to read because I feel you there. And I know after seeing hundreds of different campers that T@B is actually on the higher end in terms of quality for standing height trailers with bathrooms.
Those cushions would be extremely uncomfortable to sleep on. No matter what you do, you will end up with a crack in your back or knees or shoulders. For the same price, I can get a full sized trailer. Where did they spend the extra money? There are no extra features and there is one less axle, less beds, less length, fewer features overall.
Cool trailer. The look is definitely retro. It just has too much for us. I know we are outliers. Don’t need 2 TVs. The interior fridge and exterior cooler is overkill. Like the ability to use a cassette toilet inside, but don’t like a wet bath.
Very nice Road trailer. Still not a big fan of the aluminum frames due to stress fractures. Having two kitchens does seem to take away a lot of storage area. But who doesn't like two TVs on outside one inside. Permanent bed setup just wouldn't work. Way too small. Always love the videos
Good point. I am a big fan of the aluminum frames for your average camper. But, for where you go. You are absolutely right. I like the bones of this trailer. I think if I got my hands on this, I could remove a number of things and make a few modifcations and really like what I end up with. The only stuggle I think I would have in the end would be dry weight, height, and tongue weight.
I agree with you it does have great bones. But if you were to take out that bathroom and put in a pantry so you could extend the bed on that one side would sure help. How do you like pass-throughs? I kind of like them.
I'm surprised people don't see the value of the pass through. To me it eliminates redudant items or eliminates walking from your galley to the inside of the camper on numerous occasions. I don't need a large pass through like the Bean. It is great, don't get me wrong. I designed our camper to have a "full" 'pass through. but really all you need is a small space that stores multi-use items like toothbrushes, flashlights, blankets, etc. The beauty of the full pass through though is now you have full access to food and snacks from both sides. It doesn't mean much in something like a Bean. But if you had a small prep area and one burner stove inside, it could be very useful. @@sierramantrvlnus
I wish the manufacturers would start making trailers like this that are 100% electric. I want zero gas. I want to be able to take along and set up a few extra solar panels and stay out indefinitely without having to pack up and go back to civilization just to get gas. All the technology is there, and there are lots of people doing that very thing. But currently, the only way to do that affordably is to get one of the stripped-down models (or build from scratch) and add in the electric system yourself.
The other issue manufacturers who want to go this route are coming across is weight. I think we still have a few years for technology to improve in the weight category. Lithium batteries continue to improve in efficiency and cold weather. But one area where they still struggle is weight. Same with many of the affordable solar panels. Once the weight comes down, your dream will be a reality.
Good seeing you on here. It kind of makes me sad seeing the retro trailer. This was very similar to the style Charles and I were shooting for on our build.
Hehe, Hi drew. You know, i'm just thinking, you went on the whole composite and carbon fiber run... but everyone forgets, thanks to scotty, we have Transparent Aluminum. While its still an emergent tech... could you imagine huge transparent aluminum windows that also act as "structural" components. Coated with ElectraTint on an inner layer allowing you to tint, or black out the window as little or as much as you want with the turn of a dial. Todays non sequitur moment, has been brought to you by ALON, transparent aluminum, and electratint for all your privacy needs. ROTFL.
@@jodybogdanovich4333 hehe, sorry i'm a bit of a nut job. i notice techs used in other fields, boating, aircraft, military, and think how that would apply to RV industry. LOL.
Wow, I am out of the loop. Unless you are just pulling my leg. Wait are you? This sounds crazy! Oh my goodness, I just looked it up. It is real. The things you know....
Truly! I can't even imagine what the future of small camper trailers will hold. It has been really slow progress the last 50 years. Many of my favorite models today are just throwbacks to something that came out in the 50s or 60s. But, with all this new technology I think there can be some pretty creative campers coming out in the near future.
@@PlayingwithSticks yep, the transparent aluminium is actually used for bullet proof windows even... that means it would work for serious hail events. Next, the electronic tint lets you do blackouts without curtains. its useful. LOL and no, you're not out of the loop, though this stuff has been around since the 1990's, it really only started coming into its own in 2015ish... the auto-tint was expensive but its price has dropped in recent years too so its now used on some cars.
The front interior galley is wasted space for needed storage. The rear kitchen should be enough, but replace the Yeti cooler with a 12V mini fridge. $39K is priced too high for this trailer.
Raise the bathroom window to eye level and add a fan. I’ve owned fanless small trailers. Never again. I could do without indoor kitchens. Make that space a sitting area to make a permanent bed set up as is. Good looking trailer and the workmanship is nice. Not my cup of tea but I can see the attraction, maybe the application.
I love it!! I would like options!! I want an off road version not crazy but a little higher also not retro more sporty..also the two kitchens are excellent..I wouldn’t want the cook top inside. Just the microwave and coffee pot and sink and fridge would be perfect inside…and yes the cooler should be on a slide….how quickly can I get these specs because I would buy one today! Oh and get rid of the tvs…takes to much space. Otherwise I love it!
Drew, I want to get into tear drops. 54 years old and done with tent camping and set up!! I love this trailer except for the rear TV. My issue is usually my height, I’m 6’5” so most of these beds I don’t fit on. I don’t plan on hanging out in there so standing room is less of a concern for me. This trailer being 10” wider than a 320 is what I need. My concern is that I can find NO literature that indicates that nuCamp is the final manufacturer. Or if Ultimate Toys just buys them from nuCamp and widens them. I’m concerned about who would service this. Really love your practical videos!!
These are built by NuCamp for Ultimate Toys. So essentially a NuCamp trailer. As for beds, the majority on the market are 6'6" long. With a pillow though behind your head that 6'6" decreases pretty quickly. Off the top of my head the first long bed I can think of comes from Bend Teardrops. Another bed that potentially could be long is the new Beanstock 2.0. But that trailer has no galley kitchen. It's my current favorite layout, but it isn't for everyone. If I were you I would look at a 6' wide Runaway Camper. Composite materials for longevity, And extra width of space. And I assume there would be more length beings there is no galley. Oh, I forgot to mention it is affordable compared to most brands. If you do take a look at it, let me know what you find out about it in terms of sleeping length.
@@PlayingwithStickspretty close to pulling the trigger between 2 different dealers. What are your thoughts on the solar built into the roof? About a $1500 difference in price between one with factory solar on the roof and one with no charging (would need a solar controller etc). That could buy a lot of stand alone solar panels I’m thinking? Same agm battery set up.
There is price and time, plus a second option I will mention at the end of this comment. And it really depends on what panels they use. A typical affordable larger flexible roof mounted panel from Renogy will cost you about $450 or $260 from Bouge RV. Then you need to install a charge controller. Because even though these are wired for solar, my assumption is that it is wired only for Zamp. And a zamp panel is EXPENSIVE, not to mention heavy. If you pay someone to do this for you it probably will come out close to that $1,500. But if you do it yourself a similar setup would cost you probably at minimum $500 and on average probably $700. So you would save about 50%. I think with all the amenities on this trailer your best option would be a gas or propane generator. That way you primarily would just work off of the AGM battery and if needed you could top off with a generator. The generator would also support those large draw items that this trailer has included. If you haven't seen the Alp generator you may want to check it out.I thin there also may be other knockoff brands now on the market as well.@@geonoc1
@playingwithsticks I pulled the trigger! We got the one with built in solar and love it!!! Just did a 650 mile trip up the east coast bringing it home. Love the space for a rainy day, I can fit, and it still has the outdoor kitchen. May remove the rear tv.
@@geonoc1 Love hearing this! You are not alone with that TV comment. Many T@B owners choose to do the same thing. I have also seen a lot of folks remove the microwave to gain a bit more storage.
I could see that being a fun design. Have you seen their Micro Max? I think that is closer to what you would be describing. I find it to be a really neat little trailer.
@@PlayingwithSticks Yes! The micro max is not quite as roomy as the mini max. The mini max is perfect because it does have the larger fridge and the closet. But I really do like the styling of the tab!
Not understanding the dual kitchens. I would prefer IMO the kitchen in the rear to have a grill and the rest storage for a bike, etc. It's all about storage for me.
I kept trying to figure out why this thing seemed so competively priced when compared to NuCamps own lineup. Yes its pricey for a teardrop, but remember, NuCamp trailers are expensive. Considering that it has an entire secondary kitchen, is six inches wider, leather upholstered cushions, a more custom exterior paint scheme and design and more cabinetry, it didnt make sense. You can find these for $32k new at some dealers. A 2024 Tab 320S can be had for 29-30K. Two grand for all that increased space, storage and functionality seemed like a great deal. But then it hit me. He mentioned a water heater below the sink of the camp kitchen in the back. If this thing had the Alde hydronic heating system that all other NuCamp campers have, it wouldnt need a water heater, because that functionality is integrated into the Alde unit. So these don't have the Alde system for on demand hot water and radiant heating throughout the camper. That's how the price is so much cheaper. Those Alde units alone cost like $10K. So between leaving out the Alde system and the lower rated axle and the lack of front tongue box platform, thats how they got the cost down. I love the kayout, but I gotta have the Alde. I hope NuCamp comes out with something like this in a more traditional exterior design, without leaving out the Alde system.
Great video Drew. This camper has lots of smart features but for me it’s just not tall enough. Instead of that extra width, a better opportunity for additional space could have been vertically applied. Many of these tear drops with this level of engineering come so close to competing with larger campers. A bit more standing room would go a long way.
Glad you enjoyed the video. My thoughts are once you get a trailer this tall, you probably aren't too concerned about aero. So I'm guessing adding some more additional height wouldn't be too concerning for most. In reality I think this trailer beats most of the larger campers in terms of build quality. But, like you said, they are cramming quite a bit into a small space. So it is hard to compare the two in terms of usability.
@@ProudJew348 😂 looks like You just got algorithmed. It happens to all of us. Basically, what happens is the UA-cam algorithm thinks you like Nucamp trailers so it keeps serving those videos to you. I'm assuming it's also serving you PJ's videos. But no, we are a small camper trailer channel. You're going to see them all here. If it's remotely popular, it's on the channel. Another reason why you probably are getting served the nucamp videos is they tend to be fairly popular within the community. And that's primarily because they're the easiest to find around the country and the most owners on the road. So videos that have higher views tend to be sent to a wider audience. Check out our playlist or just our videos in general. I think you'll be happy to see the amount of diversity on there.
Hey Drew, I have been out of the loop for the last few months. This video seems to have taken on a life of its own; lots of views and conversations! Give hugs to May and your boys for me. How old are the kiddos now?
I hope it’s been a good three months! Good to see you. Our last few months have been eventful as we did our annual transition from the States to Thailand 🇹🇭. The family is with me right now, so I promise to give them some hugs. Rye just turned four and East just turned seven. It felt like yesterday that we brought Rye over here to Thailand as a one year old. Time is flying. Hope all is good on your end!
If we all want a Custom Tear-Drop w/all the features we seek, put your layout/list of features, find a local Auto/RV Fabricator. Thenb submit your design to receive exactly what you want, for thousands & thousands less. You will probably spend close to a year or so awaiting what you want.
the TV in the outdoor galley is a weird feature. I'd be inside if I want to watch TV and nowadays, everyone has an ipad, so even an indoor tiny TV is near pointless unless you're still watching DVD's.
Regarding the bathroom vent. The bathroom door is open at the top so the ceiling vent fan in the main cabin could be used to evacuate any steam or odor coming from the bathroom. Not ideal but prevents another penetration through the roof or sidewall. The build quality looks good but not a fan of this camper. The cabin layout could be better without the second galley. The size and weight of this model takes it out of the tiny camper category and will be too large for most people. The teardrop shape is aesthetically pleasing but with that, they are giving up interior space that other similar sized, conventional shaped campers have. Cost of non teardrop shaped campers seems to be more reasonable.
I would love that. They came up with a really neat solution in their T@B 400 model. They have a fun name for it like the disapering bed. I probably got that name wrong. But, I would love to see it introduced into Nucamps smaller models.
We just bought a 2024 T@B 320 CS-S and we love it. Why would you want/need two kitchens in a small trailer like this? Our kitchen is in the back like this one and we have a great storage cabinet on the inside where this one has a second kitchen. This trailer looks cool but I don't get the concept of this at all. The big advantage of this trailer is the width for sure. I am 5'-8" and I don't think anyone larger would be able to sleep comfortable. As far and having the bathroom vented, there is a large space above the bathroom door and it is a small trailer so I don't see the need in another roof penetration. The air fan in the main cabin is literally 2' from the bathroom.
I think the advantage would be for someone full-timing. You’re getting the best of both worlds as a solo traveler. Indoor and outdoor facilities. Thanks for sharing about the vent.
@@PlayingwithSticks I recently discovered your channel. I really like it! On our T@B, I agree about the bed options for solo or full-timers though. It would be nice to have some options. Converting our bed from the dinette position is a bit of a pain but we are coming from car camping and backpacking so this is unheard of luxury.
That’s funny, because when I’m with my wife or with my family, everything just feels like work like converting a bed to a table. But if I take the same trailer out by myself, it feels like nothing but benefits. I think when there’s more than one of you, there’s just a lot more items that need to move around, plus having more than one body in the camper. We occasionally take out teardrop trailers that have a table under the floor. We never use it as a family. I practically use it daily when solo traveling. So when I making these videos, I often have to remind myself of solo campers needs, because it’s quite rare that I’m doing this myself. And I’m glad you brought all this up, because it just reminds me I probably need to address solo travelers, and their needs more in these videos
@@PlayingwithSticksThis is interesting. I have done a couple overnights on my own and one night with my wife (we just got the tailer in December). I just did an overnight Saturday night just to be that much more familiar with everything as we are doing a 10 day trip up to Vermont for the eclipse. I do wind up making the full bed although I guess I could make a smaller version. I don't know that I do anything else differently solo versus with my wife but we likely won't use the inside table unless the weather outside is bad. As I get faster at doing things, they become less cumbersome. All in all, I really love having everything self contained in a little rig. It feels so luxurious to have hot water on demand.
@stevenjoseph8980 love that you’re getting to know your trailer. It took us a long time, but eventually it got so easy. Each trip you just make minor modifications to your camping set up and it makes a big difference down the road.
Sorry, I think I didn't explain that well. If you look again there is one shot with the huge bed. The issue is making a bed and a table at the same time and both of them beinig useful. A big bed works great!
Two gallies in a tiny trailer like this makes no sense. I prefer inside kitchen with back to front two burner cook top for more counter space and use rear kitchen as storage. I also prefer a composting toilet to dealing with a cassette. I would also like a longer Tab, say 20-21' that would allow for a permanent bed. You can't beat Tab's quality And I do love the retro look with the tires and color scheme. It's really a cutie. ❤
The two galleys seem to be the deal breaker for most folks on here. And there are a lot of comments like yours that prefer the indoor kitchen over the outdoor. I like the idea of two kitchens, but one being much more basic. For us outdoor galley folks all we need is just a little single burner and prep space to get the job done inside.
The TV in the rear galley is a big waste of space in my opinion also not too sure I would want dual galleys, I know it might be nice in inclement weather but I think I would rather utilize that space for extra storage. Love the bigger bed and the cassette toilet though. Thanks Drew !
I agree with your thoughts and ideas.
Totally agree with you
Good seeing you my friend! Look at this comment of yours 17 likes already! You said something here that resonated with folks.
I agree
Exactly my thoughts, total waste of space
I really wish NuCamp made a stand up RV in the 1500lbs-1600lbs range. That would made it a possibility for smaller SUVs.
I love the retro-styling and I noticed the extra, albeit slight, counter space inside, but all in all, not worth the extra 500# by including two kitchens and two TVs in such a tiny trailer. Thx for the tour! 😊
Exactly, how badly do you want to watch TV? The rear (or the front, if you prefer) could be far better used for more storage space or tank capacity, etc. My Casita (yes, they are dated looking as hell) weighs the same as this trailer but has way more room inside for the same weight. I think this looks very cool but it is not the most practical application out there. As for the cassette toilet, if you are one of those folks that has "black tank phobia" are you really going to be better off tsking the cassette to the dump station every 2 days? It seems to me that handling the same chore more times is not the solution that works best. And no vent fan in the toilet/shower is a non starter, too.
@@richardhouvener6423 The cassette can be dumped into a vault toilet or a regular toilet, like at a rest area. I do empty mine covertly and also use disposable gloves, disinfectant spray, and paper towels, as needed.
I'm a single camper and like most campers, I use public facilities when possible, so I don't have to empty the cassette very often.
As far as a fan, I think they left quite a gap at the top of the door so the big fan in the living area takes care of moisture and any "odors," which don't bother me since I'm alone LOL, plus I always add a deodorizer to the emptied cassette, plus some water per instructions (I also rinse the cassette with some water after it's emptied).
You are welcome Jody! Good seing you on here.
Is there a kitchen wall option? I wouldn’t want to be cooking out in the pouring rain as that roof won’t do the job! Also do they have a padded mattress topper? There are SO MANY crevices!
I love retro looking trailers and Nu Camp nailed that look on this camper! Love the height and the width on this trailer. So my Pro’s are spacious interior, retro look and nice bed/table area with moving the table to the other side. My con’s are that with that extra width that they could have come up with an awesome layout to the galley and I feel like this is lacking, my personal opinion is a bathroom in such a small trailer is like putting an elevator in an outhouse. With such a spacious interior I would have loved to see what they could do with this trailer by leaving the bathroom out. I also feel like they could have done something really innovative with a bunk bed system. Hope you are enjoying some wonderful coffee!
An elevator in an outhouse 😂I'm going to have to use that analogy some time. It would be really neat to see them offereing multiple layouts on a trailer like this. I literally read your line about the coffee, while taking a sip of the most high end coffee known to man, Nescafe instant coffee enhanced for the Thai pallet. Haha. I haven't had a good coffee in two weeks. I'll use this as an excuse to take the boys out to the jungle and find some good coffee. I always appreciate the support Brad! I think you will enjoy our next video. I shot the majority of it in the woods here. It felt good to use the camera on one of my hikes. Happy New Year to you and your family Brad!
@@PlayingwithSticks HA! I thought you might like that analogy! Sorry you are drinking substandard coffee!! Hope you can get some of the good stuff soon!! Happy New Year to you and your family as well! I look forward to the next vid!!
This definitely has some positives and is a very cute trailer. I can see the appeal for a lot of people. Don’t like two kitchens. Seems a waste of space. The TV outside is hilarious. It’s pretty geared toward camping in established campgrounds. Nothing wrong with that.
You and I feel the same about bathrooms in small trailers. The only positive would be cold weather times. That camp toilet outside is pretty chilly to the tushy. I would rather close up my bag and toss it in the trash (I use the right things to make this okay) than to empty that in a toilet somewhere.
Those dome hubcaps are gonna pop off pretty fast on some forest and WMA roads.
Good points you have here my friend. Don't say that about the dome hubcaps! You are killing my nostalgic dreams. Two things I have always wanted...Retro fenders and baby moons. Mark from Bean tells me with my style of camping I will rip those fenders up the first month. And now you tell me I will lose the full or baby moons! Everyone who knows me knows I can be a little bull headed. I still want to prove everyone wrong. I want to take out a retro trailer all over the backcountry and bring it out in one piece. That was something Charles and I were working hard on. We were making a lot of reinforcements on the body and the paint process to take a retro trailer through the toughest terrain. He guaranteed it would work and as usual I was skeptical until I saw it play out in the wild. Haha. Like you, I am not very optimistic about it. But, boy would it be fun to take a retro styled trailer all over the country and it still holds up.
@@PlayingwithSticks I’m with you there. If I could get the back country capability AND a retro look…Heaven!
The 2 kitchens are nonsense and a waste of space. I would rather see a bunk bed instead for a family.
It's not fiberglass like the scamp or Casita, how leak proof is this?
It is a nice trailer. Nevertheless, the point you raised about flipping the 'lagoon table' mount immediately struck me, long before you mentioned it. My thoughts exactly. Taking advantage of the longer sided bed and by doing so, taking advantage of the shorter sofa/couch makes far more sense. This is something that I agree they can easily and quickly remedy - unless like yourself, I too am missing something. Another of my pet-hates or dislikes is that if manufacturers are going to put top opening fridges/cool boxes under counter-tops, then they should always be on a slide-out shelf/rails. They are completely ignoring the realities of life that once the cook has gotten everything out of the fridge/cool box and is busily preparing, there will always be a spouse/partner or child that wants to get a drink out of it and will not wait. Furthermore, if you are required to take out the cool box or fridge from its storage position, that is no easy task when it is full of heavy drinks or food. As for the wet-room, it definitely needs a window that can open or preferably a vent. That would remedy the necessity for a silly gap on the door and allow it to close fully to prevent unpleasant smells getting out. Not to mention stopping steam from the shower raising the humidity of the trailer. Three things that would make this trailer go from good to great.
Andrew I really appreciate that you took the time to give feedback here. These are the comments that someone looking for a trailer will benefit from. Great point on the slide out. I don't think I have ever mentioned that in a video. I am going to have to remember to keep my eye out for trailers that lack this so I can make that point in the future.
I thought I would chime in as an UT owner... Love it!!! I am 6'2". The extra width bed is fantastic. Having two kitchens is used by us all the time... While I am grilling in the back, wife is making sauces and baking (Omnia oven) in from. I have the full bar set up in back (along with espresso machine) and can pass cocktails through to her inside. The Bosch hot water heater in not tankless but 2.5 gallons. enough for a quick shower. It reheats in ~15 minutes. We even use the TV in back when tailgating . It never fails to be the source of turning heads and meeting new friends while on the road.
I agree that table mount should be moved over. I'm a single camper with dog and a full time bed and table are on my must have list. I don't need tv or entertainment center or microwave though . I like the extra width and height, but not sure I need 2 kitchens.
I think all those extra amenities can be easily removed and really open up that space. But, that kitchen that is there to stay. Haha. I would like a second kitchen, but just a counter and a one burner stove for light breakfasts and rainy days. I think this would be a great option for one person and a dog. I also like how the kitchen is in the front. It makes it live a bit bigger inside. That trailer Charles and I were working on. I think that would have been a great fit for your scenario. We never got to show it off, but everything revolved around the "living area." We designed it live more spaciously. It had fold down tables, seats, and a good amount of room for dogs, bikes, family eating/board games, etc. I hope somebody comes up with a design like that one day. Small, but a smart use of space.
Looks like the shower door has a gap so you can use the main fan to vent. Cute little trailer!
Like I said, bathrooms are my weak point. Thank you for clarifying.
Not just the shower that vents out…. Ick. Bathrooms in a small space. It’s so challenging to find a trailer with seating/convertible bed and a galley but NO bathroom inside!
Shouldn't be pooping in there unless it's an emergency. I have a trenching tool for digging a latrine hole while boondocking. The camper bathroom is for middle of the night pee sessions only.
I agree with alot of the comments. TV in the gally is a waste of space. Put it inside. Not a fan of dual kitchens, micowave and shower. Like the toilet though. If you remove the inside kitchen, microwave and shower maybe you could fit a bunk?
May and I were both a littel shocked when we realized there was two tvs. One inside and one outside. Could point on the bunk. It would e neat if they offered a few different layouts.
TV and speakers outside; What a great way to annoy other campers!!!
Exactly! I go into the back woods to blend in, not stand out.
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I go to run around naked and bark at the moon. Those poor other campers around us 😂
@@PlayingwithSticks As stated, blending in.
My use case is very specific, but this is a great trailer to pull up to the tailgate and be set for the day.
Beautiful styling and appears very well made. But at $44,995 who is buying these?
With trailers like this, I never know where the prices really. One dealership has a sticker for $49K, another $44K, and then quite a few at $25,900 and the odd $25,500. Such a wide range!
I just paid $20k for this one.
@@jb171504where did you buy from?
Where?@@jb171504
Still to much 10000 for me is more than plenty
Pretty trailer. Love the style. Always thought galleys in a camper this small is a waste of space. People cook out using a grill when they go camping the majority of the time. Who wants to pay 1000s extra for a galley that they'll likely use to make coffee and maybe cook some eggs? A camping stove is cheap.
Interesting. It is fun to hear the counter argument on here. We don't hear many arugments against a galley kitchen. Thank you for sharing Susan. Love it!
Actually, if you really know how to camp, you cook over the fire. Mind blowing, I know!
All anyone needs is a jetboil genesis that you can take outside to cook on when warm and in winter you can use inside. Tv in small trailer this size? I can watch movies on my laptop.
I love the older NuCamps. I prefer the black tank so i dont have to roll my waste around camp. I prefer the bed setup on the 320 with the complete U. The storage and setting are more ample. Not needing a one person lightweight yet, but I'll be ready when I am.
I am interested to see what the ratio is of those in favor of the blank tank vs the cassette. Thanks for sharing.
Very nice looking trailer. I agree with other comments about the cooler/fridge area needing a slide, ditch the TVs and I still worry about getting this trailer out in the back-country. Hub caps & fenders tend to take a beating over time. If I were staying on pavement or well maintained gravel roads though, this is a gamer.
As a proud new owner of this trailer, I got a great deal on it. Personally, as a single woman, the ability to cook inside is a huge benefit to me as a late night snacker! When I camp with friends, I’m sure the outdoor TV and kitchen will be a big hit!
With space at a premium, I wouldn’t want two kitchens. I also reject that low rear end. I can hear that rear edge scraping on the driveway. However, I love my 2023 T@B 320 sb.
I understand that space concern. In a perfect world our family would have a full galley kitchen and then just a small burner in the front of the trailer for small breakfasts and rainy days. I can hear that scraping as well. But with my smaller tow vehicles it is rarely the rear of the camper and more often scraping on the tongue. What does the SB stand for in your model? Is that standard bed configuation?
The toilet is cassette? I’d hate to hear the mix tapes.
The pass through from the galley is a big plus. But it needs one of those little bells that short order cooks hit when the order is up. Detail.
A hybrid bed setup for work and sleep. This is a win. Almost. I’d get that lagun flipped.
Very nice and thorough review.
😂 on both the mix tapes and the bells.
Now lets remember, these kind of campers can accept big docking tents. while it takes time to set up, and can add a few 100 lbs of "gear" to a trip. This can add an extra 10' of width to the trailer. This means you COULD set up a wood stove, 2-3 extra beds... parents can sleep in doors, kids could sleep in the tent, with a stove jack and wood stove, you can to cooking in that tent too giving you a 3ed point of cooking + you have the electric power on that side.
With the electric outlets on this side and shore power on the other, this leads to an interesting option where the tent section has access to the shore power THROUGH the camper, allowing everything from electric heaters, separate AC units, or any appliances including TV and Game console outside for the kids in the tent area...
You know I appreciate how you think! People often make comments on our channel about "what are you going to do when the kids get big" or "good luck when you kids get big." I think they just don't understand our family's needs. Even our house is only 900 square feet and that is more than we need. For us it is about having the neccesities and then from there, like you said, we can just build outward with our outdoor living room. Yes, we will continue to tent camp with our boys. But, I also want the luxury of teardrop camping as well. Having a docking tent allows us the best of both worlds. The boys get a little autonomy and that outdoor experience we all grew up loving, and May and I still get some of our creature comforts. I think next summer we might actually forgo the galley in exchange for a different outdoor kitchen setup. Like people are saying here in the comments the galley does reduce the usable living space inside the trailer. We took out the new Bean Stock this fall. And I was shocked how big a little camper can live, even for a family of four. As long as everything is outside, you don't need a whole lot of space inside.
@@PlayingwithSticks I always look at the camper- the trailer - as the center point for modular systems. Its your safety point, your emergancy fall back, and your primary retreat for serious weather.
BUT it is also the hub. with the option to add on to it with out tents, with out structures, with power lines running from the camper to other points... with water and power running TO the camper then distributed. You might for example, be running 600 watts external solar + a water purification system that feeds to the trailer... the trailers tanks store the water, its water heater warms it, its batteries store the power... then from there it can be disributed to other points.
This is my only dislike to the camper. because of its size and shape, without extending the tongue and adding on weight there, you can't do something like, switching form 1 20 to 2x 30 pound tanks. You can't add 3 more big batteries. i wouldn't have minded a battery box with its own access BELOW the propane tanks. where you could mount up to 4 batteries. THEN the tank bay being able to be "enlarged" to hold up to 2 30 pounders...
I saw a couple of younger folks in California doing something similar to this. Their camper was used as a base station for work, but it also functioned as their home. During work hours they had a really neat system for utilizing the trailer to process or handle external inputs. One guy was using his for telecommunication. Lots of wires and dodads coming in that I didn't understand. Inside there was a lot of processing going on. He said the biggest struggle was keeping the camper cool in that scenario. @@jenniferstewarts4851
Agreed no vent in bathroom is a deal breaker! Not just for odor but also moisture!
Extra width is great!
Table mount DOES need to be shifted _OR_ duplicated - - if only as an option.
¿What will happen to _ALL_ _THE_ _MOISTURE_ once you finish showering?
You take a quick shower 😂
Haha. Love this comment Jody!
I'm hearing from other comments that the gap in the door is designed to allow the Maxx-Air fan to pull that moisture out. LIke you, I was worried about that condensation.
I really like the style. The rest of it not as much. Not a fan of the outside galley kitchens, if I want to cook outside I will either be using a fire or a grill otherwise cooking inside on the gas stove isn't that big of a deal and I like the option to be able to cook out of the weather. As far as the bathroom, if you look at the door there is a huge gap at the top so the moist air will go out through here, I am assuming there is a fan out in the main area. I still like the 400 better I like not having to set up the bed all the time. They could have set the table mount to the wall so you could just flip it up instead. I also don't like pass throughs they seem useless to me.
Thanks for solving that fan question for me. So simple, but I just couldn't see it. I'm with you on the bed comment. The beauty of the pass through is to eliminate dual items. Most people use them as a storage area for things that will be used both inside and outside the trailer. We use ours often.
I guess an indoor kitchen would be nice for some, but I'd take an outdoor kitchen only, no microwave, no TV. Actually, no shower either, though I do like the cassette toilet. Apparently it's too much camper and too much weight for me & my Subaru Forrester. Nice tour, though .
When I imagine myself stripping this camper down and making a few modifications, it actually is up there as one of my favorite campers. But as is, it defintely is lower in the pack. Like you, I wish the weight was a lot lower as well. I used to grumble about this a lot, but I have almost given up. How come you have Scamp trailers that are that big, weiging only 1,000lbs, and last decades on the road; yet we can't build a teardrop near that size and keep it under 2,000lbs. Charles and I were determined to make it happen. I mean he was going to make that trailer even 50% lighter than I was originallly shooting for.
That’s why we went with the Taxa Cricket. Ticks all the boxes for us.
Good stuff as usual Drew. The interior seems more similar to the Tab 320 S. I guess the CSS comparison is because of the outdoor kitchen. Agree with the lack of a exhaust fan above the wet bath being something overlooked. You know me so here we go again...How hard or expensive would it be to have 2 more solar panels up top? Atleast 300 watts should be more common. Also, with all these portable power stations (Bluetti, Jackery, Ecoflow...) becoming more popular and cheaper, when are manufacturers going to put a second 30A or 20A outlet inside the trailer that would provide power to all things inside the trailer like the outdoor shore power inlet does? If you spend over a thousand dollars on a Bluetti you wouldn't want it outside exposed to the elements or theft. The outside of this trailer looks cool being retro. But all in all I'd prefer the 320 S without the outdoor kitchen to allow longer front to back oriented bed length and space. Thankyou Drew. You always bring us much to think about and consider.
Yes, you are right. Much more similar to the 320S. To me it is a compromised layout of the 320s, with the benefit of a galley kitchen. I'm with you on the solar. I have been saying 200. But, I wouldn't mind 300. We put 400 on our new camper. And it really wasn't that expensive when you go with a renogy panel. Our second panel was from Bouge RV because I wanted to test CIGS vs Standard technology. Guess I won't be doing that any time soon. Good point on the adapter inside for attaching a power station. That is the same problem we had the last two summers with our converted cargo trailer. I could only use the power station outside, but I wanted it inside. Glad you enjoyed the video. I dont' think there has been one person yet in the comments who has said, yep this is the trailer for me.
I am curious to know the differences about the solar panel that you install from Bouge RV, I have a 320s and I want to add more solar panel, I am wondering if it's worth the price differences from the regular Renogy which is almost half the price, also what is the best way to attach in order not fly away when driving, since I heard it happened to some people.
Thank you
I went on about 12 trips last year, and only cooked outside once. I prefer an indoor kitchen. I don't need a TV, stereo, or an outside kitchen, and I really don't like using coolers. As a 5'2" solo camper, I like the bed setup.
Wow, you have a thriving channel! I have never seen it. I am embarrassed that I have not found your channel. It is like everything I love all in one place. I saw you went to a fiberglass trailer rally. Was that a one time thing or an annual rally? I would love to experience that. Still on the search for our perfect vintage fiberglass trailer. Your cadet looks amazing! Thanks for sharing your feedback on this video. Much appreciated.
the whole point why some people like me love and want the T@B NuCamp "camp trailer" is because it's basically a tiny home on wheels you can easily tow with most any vehicle. And to live in. Not necessarily to just go "haha hehe" camping with. This camper would have to have the entire backsituation removed and gain a black tank because there are places you can only stay if you have a black tank. And this should also allow for more space for storage. Wonder if such was also made as a "side grade" other option?
Good point you have here. I was viewing this trailer more for folks who would be doing a mixed camping style of offgrid and shore power. I think there is only one layout, but multiple layouts would be a great option.
We own a 2023 Intech Sol Dawn that has a wet bath. It has a vent and I can't imagine it NOT having it, so I believe this to be a poor choice not to install it. I love the lagun table and I'm in agreement that it should have been mounted at the end, however in saying that, I believe they were thinking of an end table sort of function when designing it. I don't really know where I am with the two kitchens.....Our kitchen is inside when you walk in the door. We've used it exactly twice. Most of our cooking is on a flat griddle outside. I don't really care for the food odors in our camper. I think what I do love about this is the on demand hot water. We are installing solar in ours for off grid use....I don't see a lot of option for that in this model. And I want to add....I PERSONALLY would prefer a combination microwave, air fryer, convection oven. We use our stand alone air fryer out in the woods A LOT! The microwave we use on packout mornings so as to not have a lot to clean up before leaving the campsite. We will be solving our problem soon. As usual Drew, you do a great job.....really enjoy your videos! :)
Love hearing insights from people in the field. Great tip by the way on microwave food the day of camp teardown. If you haven't tried airfryer cookies while camping, I caution you. Do it at your own risk. They are amazing, take less than 10 minutes, and make camping even better. The risk, it is too easy! We found ourselves eating more cookies than we ever would eat beings it was so easy. haha. We have never tried an airfryer for anything, home or camp. Mark from Bean trailer suggest we take one out to make cookies. Wow! That is all I will say. Haha. Glad you are enjoying the videos.
The air fryer is a lunch time thing after coming in from a walk or just enjoying the sites! Cookies sound interesting, might have to try that....maybe with some ice cream! =D We live in a condo, so taking the flat griddle out is the thing since we can't do it at our home due fire regs. I get a lot of ideas from Neal @TheFlatTopKing and @CowboyKentRollins. Both of them have reminded me to embrace my love of cooking! It's one of the appeals of going camping. All three of you are enhancing the experience for us as we plan to take this on road for a bit! Your channel in particular was the reason we got back into camping as before this unit, we bought a teardrop from Tiny CamperCo. Lovely unit, but health reasons called for indoor facilities. You really do a great job with your reviews! @@PlayingwithSticks
Thank you for your fast reply to my request.. We just bought a new 2024 Little guy micro max! We were also consider Nu camp tab 320
I watched again. I really want a camper that size…..but. I had a 7 ft wide with stand up height interior for two years. I camp primarily in remote..ish campgrounds down two tracks or logging roads. I was beating that wider/trailer up every trip. I’ve ripped off jack stand wheels, awning covers, cover plates, collected limbs with solar panels. I need something that is no wider or taller with my vehicle with a canoe on top.
Solitude comes with restrictions.
Seeing Sean out there showing this trailer took us back to the magical moment when you Drew , and Sean introduced us to the Meerkat. Well we bought that Meerkat essentially mail order, had to have it shipped from San Diego, CA to NJ. And more than 8,000 miles of touring/camping around the country our first year (11 National Parks) we couldn’t be happier. The only thing this one has that I might want to add to our Meerkat, is built in air conditioning (we have a portable unit). This brings me to the one big reason why we would not feel as comfortable with this camper and that is it is too short for my 6ft 4 inch husband. And secondly our Highlander Hybrid has a towing capacity of 3500 but we carry a great deal of gear/toys -bikes, Skottle-again at your recommendation Drew) side tent (especially made for the Meerkat) we are fun loving glamours so I fear we would max out and have to trim down what we bring. Thanks for doing these product demonstrations. We are living proof that they help others find products and campers that are the right fit for each of us. And about the Skottle when we mooch dock with friends we make them breakfast (and dinner if we’re there for more than one night) using the Skottle as it adds a little fun factor to our thanks for having us.
11 National Parks... I love it! Did you catch our little reference in the video to the bed extension on the Meerkat? That also is a nice tough for those taller folks. I will have to look up that custom Meerkat tent. I don't think I have seen it yet. I went out to see the Meerkat again this September. I can't seem to stay away from it. I just love that little trailer. Your comment really warms my heart. This is exactly why we make these videos. Speaking of the Skottle, we even use ours at home now. May and I just can't get enough of this style of cooking. I picked up a Blackstone this summer. I have been experimenting with it as well. If it weighed less it would probably be on every camping trip with me. I took it out on a few trips. But, the Skottle still reigns supreme in the campground. I've been experimenting with other brands like Southwest Disc to help folks find a more affordable option. But, I just really love the depth of the skottle pan. It is shallower than the others and I find that to be very adventageous. Especially for dinners like steak or fish.
Keep up the good work! Know that your posts are appreciated. And I did notice the little Meerkat plug. We hope you and your lovely family have a healthy and joyous 2024.
Yeti cooler is nice but it needs to be on a pull out drawer. It will be very heavy once you add food and any ice to be lifting in and out.
Good eye! Thanks for sharing.
Like the cassette toilet!
I think that was a really smart move. Most folks who do this quite often, see the value in the cassette vs the black tanks.
Is it OK to have battery and propane tank in the same compartment? Is there a vent so propane won't pool? Obviously there shouldn't be a leak, but still seems suboptimal.
Seems interesting doesn't it? I can't imagine NuCamp would overlook a code.
Hard to find rules for smaller propane tanks. One site mentions OSHA but a lot of those rules are for filling locations and such. I see some rules about ventilation but hard for me to figure which apply in this case
Whats the point of a duel galley? I would think the inside galley space could be put to better use.
They gap the bathroom door at the top and the Maxx-air serves as the bathroom fan
Love it! My friend watched this video and had issues with that gap. I wasnt sure what to tell him. I'm looking forward to telling him, the reasoning behind the gap. Funny I overlooked that. THANK YOU!
This is the best looking teardrop I've ever seen. I'd much rather have outdoor-only cooking, because I don't like sleeping in kitchens (food smells permeate) and I'm unshakably set on never having a wet camper. Still, this is an awesome camper with way more features than I thought they could pack into such a small unit. It's right at the max I'd tow with my Wrangler, but doable.
What is the exterior height of this model? Is the 2025 CS-S model with indoor outdoor kitchen available yet? If so, did they upgrade the wet bath to have a vent? What’s the grey water capacity?
Always been a fan of Nu Camp as they seem to be nice builds for mass produced builders. TV and stereo seem silly especially in the galley. I bet you like those fenders and hubcaps! No mention of the brand name on interior components. Scars me a bit. With the short door I feel like a vent is not a deal killer.
You know it Bart! Those fenders and hubcaps scream Drew. Some day...some day. Good point on the brand names. I didn't even think of that. I was wondering what they used in place of the Alde system that they typically use in their other T@B campers. And I think most folks are in agreement with you on the door. Seems like the Maxx-Air fan gets it done. Good seeing you Bart! Get some turns in for me.
Thank You. Highly informational and enjoyable.
This is a hybrid of the T@B 320 S and CS-S, with the two kitchens. While the retro look is fun, the 320S has a longer bed and more clothing storage because no outdoor galley kitchen. (We cook outside on picnic tables, so no need for galley.) Two kitchens vs storage? Storage,hands down. I prefer the bench seating in the 320 S as well, with the backrest that ratchets up into different reclined positions. Two TVs is overkill too, since we don’t use the one we have as it is. No microwave either, as we opted for more storage space. And finally, we prefer the lighter 320 S (gas mileage! $$) and the width of our 320 S because it is the same width as our Honda Ridgeline, so if the truck can fit through an opening, then so can the trailer. Plus it’s easy to see traffic behind us in side rear view mirrors. So while this retro look is fun (like the Barefoot), we’ll keep our beloved T@B 320 S, which is absolutely perfect for us. 😊 (PS: The cassette toilet is awesome!)
Exactly! Hybrid is right. I appreciate you breaking down the differences. And your reasoning makes a lot of sense. Thank you so much for sharing this.
Agree, I'd stick with the 320s.
Hello 👋 Sean! Nice to see you doing a video! If you recall, seeing your tour of the Meerkat on this channel is what made me decide on a Meerkat! After almost a year, I’m still loving my trailer! Thanks & Happy New Year!
I have a feeling Sean will see this comment in a few days. He is such a great guy. Which is why this was my second round hanging out with him. Glad to hear you are enjoying the Meerkat. Love that camper!
Is the outdoor TV supposed to have a remote? How do you turn it on??
Venting the refrigerator condenser into the trailer will make it good and HOT when you open the door after pulling the trailer in the summer
I'd drop the whole "outdoor" kitchen part for more space inside. the bath window needs to be frosted. Needs more robust exterior electrical/water connections. All that stuff on the floor makes it tough on any seniors if they have to fiddle with anything.
YES, a bath vent is needed so you aren't suffocated by hot water humidity (or by doing Number 2 ;-P). Was that a solar panel on the roof?
I like the front kitchen and window
Me too! We talk about the advantage of a front kitchen over a side kitchen in quite a few of our videos. It really is a nice layout.
Love it! If the tv isn’t able to swing out might be a little issue but other than that I adore it! And I have a smaller size SUV…Honda CRV…so not sure about towing ability…not that I’d go all over the country due to some health issues but would love to visit places in NC where I live!
Yes it needs a vent in the bath. Nice video!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video.
They nailed the retro look, it’s a real head turner. But the redundancy in features negates efficiency which, IMO, is the key to good small trailer design.
Really good point you have. I am okay with the redundancy if it is small scale. Meaning 1 full outdoor kitchen with an indoor counter with one burner. Just enough indoor space for breakfast and occasional wet weather hangouts.
So here are my thoughts. We have an older, small 17 ft toy hauler that is dry weight about 3500lbs ( fully standing height but not as tall as other standing trailers and fits only one 4wheeler at best). It is better, heavier gauge frame ( since it's toy hauler) than standard trailers which we like. It is lighter because the hatch flips up and not down like other toy haulers and door is thinner/ lighter unlike load bearing hatch. It allows us to add magnetic screen to the back and have the hatch open to entire trailer, allows easy loading in of everything or sitting on our fold-able bed and enjoy outdoors. It also gives you option of adding three sided over the open hatch screen and have cooking outside but still have inside kitchenette. We have a wet bath with top manual mini vent.
I say that window should be placed higher (shower head height), glass should be frosted and window should have an option to pop open and that would solve ventilation issue. Yes you need ventilation since you still dealing with water/ moisture and of course farting/ stool smell if one does use the toilet.
Next, Get rid of flip up shelf doors at the bed/ dinette. If you have two people sitting next to each other, one has to move all the way away from cabinet to open it. There should be nice set of sliding doors and that would save space. As far as beds, get rid of sink behind the toilet, since it is in weird position anyway, push the toilet back (that would add extra needed inches -I am thinking at least 6" ). In any event, that would allow for longer bed behind the bathroom and position the front door so both sides of sitting area are longer and allow, at least for 2 adults and a kid sleeping area. I would like to know what total bench length that would make and if that would allow sleeping the lengthwise ?
So far, I do not seem to see small trailer other than Tab 400, to fit our needs better than what we have in our toy hauler. We need to check if we can convert our wet bath toilet with black tank to cassette toilet and perhaps get rid of black tank all together.
If this trailer would make changes that I have mentioned, it would be contender for us to make a switch to even lighter trailer. In Alaska we have a very short, warm season, so I like indoor kitchen and wet bath option ( I am older and hard shell tenting is behind me now LOL).
They wasted space by putting the second kitchen inside IMO. I would rather have a tiny seating area & storage inside in that location. Then the bed could remain a bed. Also agree with you on the table placement.
We had a nucamp that had a vent in the bathroom & it was nice, not sure I would like this. I do like the other updates the have made but still would not go for this due to the indoor kitchen. The fridge should be an option in the yeti location. Two people standing up in there is tight.
Great improvements & quality build as you mention jut not the layout for me.
You nailed it with layout. I think folks can build a great trailer, but that doesn't mean the layout is for everyone. I would love to see a couple different layouts on this version. But, beings this is custom made by NuCamp for Ultimate Toys that probably isnt very practical.
Do you offer a warmer wood tone interior? I find the gray metal back splashes and cabinets to be so cold. Other than that it’s perfect.
This is nice but too big and 2 kitchens seems like a lot. There should be a slide out for the cooler as it would be difficult to maneuver when it’s full of food and ice. The Lagun mount is probably easily moved or you can buy an additional mount. This is the first time I have seen a walkthrough of this version. Well done as usual!
Great point on the slide-out. I completely missed that one when I first shot this video. Glad you enjoyed the video. Really good seeing you on here.
NuCamp makes the best campers 😊 I love the retro exterior. I don't need two kitchens or even one TV. I don't want a stereo or a Yeti cooler. I do need a comfortable bed and a much lighter camper. This one's setup is not for me.
Good points. I really appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts.
@@PlayingwithSticks I always appreciate your work.
Thank you! That means a lot to me.
I would rather have a short teardrop than one that is 5'9". I'm 5'11" and I hit my head so hard I almost passed out in a T@B. This one doesn't solve that problem. I think having an indoor and an outside kitchen in this is very redundant. I would rather have more storage or an entertainment area in one or the other. I love your reviews and they saved me a lot of time in shopping for a small camp trailer. This trailer would be a hard pass for me. But like I said, thank you for showing this to us so I don't have to try to find one in person. Keep up the great videos.
Pat
Beautiful camper!
It really is!
When you have time, can you please eval the Little Guy Micro max trailer... thank you 🙂 You are a great resource to us newbie campers!
Consider it done! We have already filmed that review, I’m not quite sure when it’s coming out yet. I believe it comes out in June.
Cool little RV. NuCamp is the real deal but get your checkbook ready!
Yes! Especially in a month. Right now I see closeout prices at $24,500 in multiple locations across the country. But, I bet it will be hard to find the asking price for less than $40,000 soon. We are seeing this with a lot of manufacturers lately. The slowing sales have brought with them some really low prices for late 2023. I'm interested to see if this is a forecast of the small camper industry or just a small lag in sales.
Yeah- we just closed the deal today at $24k. These are identical to the Nucamp modals. For the price, you can’t lose. Nucamp are not cheap and this unit has everything.
I could see my wife's boyfriend and I enjoying a Sunday picnic in a flower field with this trailer.
I don't know if I am supposed to laugh or cry when reading this comment. 🌻
I tested a 1 year old Tab 400 for a night last year and I was surprised by how much wear was already visible. The window shades didn’t work well and some were broken. The weight when towing wet must have been close to 4,000 lbs and it was like a sail in the wind. It was also a very tight galley kitchen. The bathroom already smelled like a camper bathroom and the front table/bed was not suitable for adults as either a table or a bed. The main vent fan was very loud and rattled and every time someone used the water the pipes shook in the walls. All of this in a $35k+ one year old camper.
I think I’ll stick to tent camping. Camper build quality hasn’t changed.
Thank you for sharing this. These types of comments are priceless. Like you, I have seen the shade issues on both NuCamp trailers and Little Guy Trailers. Even on brand new models I see them getting caught. We have had quite a few comments about the shades in other videos. Essentially the consensus from owners is that you have to treat them very gently. And some just come up with their own solutions. That weight and height you mentioned, I can see how that would be a big issue. The tight fit has always been one of my issues with this style of trailer. That one extra foot of width on this model reallly changed how that felt. Plus having the kitchen up front vs. on the side of the trailer made a big difference as well. Your comment is painful to read because I feel you there. And I know after seeing hundreds of different campers that T@B is actually on the higher end in terms of quality for standing height trailers with bathrooms.
Those cushions would be extremely uncomfortable to sleep on. No matter what you do, you will end up with a crack in your back or knees or shoulders. For the same price, I can get a full sized trailer. Where did they spend the extra money? There are no extra features and there is one less axle, less beds, less length, fewer features overall.
Short answer is materials. No particle board, luon, etc.@@marbles05
If I do not fit in the bed, need to bend over to stand in the cabin, or it is priced out of my range, it does not matter what the floor is made of.
And I thought your question was where did they spend the extra money?
Cool trailer. The look is definitely retro. It just has too much for us. I know we are outliers. Don’t need 2 TVs. The interior fridge and exterior cooler is overkill. Like the ability to use a cassette toilet inside, but don’t like a wet bath.
I think you and I are outliers in general. But, on this channel I think we are in the majority. Haha.
How many TV’s do you need to go camping?
Great to see you again! 😊
Same to you. I always look forward to these comments from you.
Ok this is the cutest….and would be even cuter in my possession. 😂
RIGHT! My thoughts exactly.
When I first responded to this, I didn't even realize it was you. HI SARAH!
Very nice Road trailer. Still not a big fan of the aluminum frames due to stress fractures. Having two kitchens does seem to take away a lot of storage area. But who doesn't like two TVs on outside one inside. Permanent bed setup just wouldn't work. Way too small. Always love the videos
Good point. I am a big fan of the aluminum frames for your average camper. But, for where you go. You are absolutely right. I like the bones of this trailer. I think if I got my hands on this, I could remove a number of things and make a few modifcations and really like what I end up with. The only stuggle I think I would have in the end would be dry weight, height, and tongue weight.
I agree with you it does have great bones. But if you were to take out that bathroom and put in a pantry so you could extend the bed on that one side would sure help. How do you like pass-throughs? I kind of like them.
I'm surprised people don't see the value of the pass through. To me it eliminates redudant items or eliminates walking from your galley to the inside of the camper on numerous occasions. I don't need a large pass through like the Bean. It is great, don't get me wrong. I designed our camper to have a "full" 'pass through. but really all you need is a small space that stores multi-use items like toothbrushes, flashlights, blankets, etc. The beauty of the full pass through though is now you have full access to food and snacks from both sides. It doesn't mean much in something like a Bean. But if you had a small prep area and one burner stove inside, it could be very useful. @@sierramantrvlnus
Agreed, 100 percent
I wish the manufacturers would start making trailers like this that are 100% electric. I want zero gas. I want to be able to take along and set up a few extra solar panels and stay out indefinitely without having to pack up and go back to civilization just to get gas. All the technology is there, and there are lots of people doing that very thing. But currently, the only way to do that affordably is to get one of the stripped-down models (or build from scratch) and add in the electric system yourself.
The other issue manufacturers who want to go this route are coming across is weight. I think we still have a few years for technology to improve in the weight category. Lithium batteries continue to improve in efficiency and cold weather. But one area where they still struggle is weight. Same with many of the affordable solar panels. Once the weight comes down, your dream will be a reality.
love the retro style
Good seeing you on here. It kind of makes me sad seeing the retro trailer. This was very similar to the style Charles and I were shooting for on our build.
AC on floor may inhibit the heat at upper levels
Hehe, Hi drew. You know, i'm just thinking, you went on the whole composite and carbon fiber run... but everyone forgets, thanks to scotty, we have Transparent Aluminum. While its still an emergent tech... could you imagine huge transparent aluminum windows that also act as "structural" components. Coated with ElectraTint on an inner layer allowing you to tint, or black out the window as little or as much as you want with the turn of a dial.
Todays non sequitur moment, has been brought to you by ALON, transparent aluminum, and electratint for all your privacy needs. ROTFL.
Sounds like this should go with one of the electric trailers they are designing that can be towed by an EV. ⚡
@@jodybogdanovich4333 hehe, sorry i'm a bit of a nut job. i notice techs used in other fields, boating, aircraft, military, and think how that would apply to RV industry. LOL.
Wow, I am out of the loop. Unless you are just pulling my leg. Wait are you? This sounds crazy! Oh my goodness, I just looked it up. It is real. The things you know....
Truly! I can't even imagine what the future of small camper trailers will hold. It has been really slow progress the last 50 years. Many of my favorite models today are just throwbacks to something that came out in the 50s or 60s. But, with all this new technology I think there can be some pretty creative campers coming out in the near future.
@@PlayingwithSticks yep, the transparent aluminium is actually used for bullet proof windows even... that means it would work for serious hail events. Next, the electronic tint lets you do blackouts without curtains. its useful.
LOL and no, you're not out of the loop, though this stuff has been around since the 1990's, it really only started coming into its own in 2015ish...
the auto-tint was expensive but its price has dropped in recent years too so its now used on some cars.
The front interior galley is wasted space for needed storage. The rear kitchen should be enough, but replace the Yeti cooler with a 12V mini fridge.
$39K is priced too high for this trailer.
I like your style! We have very similar thoughts on this trailer.
Raise the bathroom window to eye level and add a fan. I’ve owned fanless small trailers. Never again.
I could do without indoor kitchens. Make that space a sitting area to make a permanent bed set up as is.
Good looking trailer and the workmanship is nice. Not my cup of tea but I can see the attraction, maybe the application.
Love the feedback here. Thank you Jeff.
I love it!! I would like options!! I want an off road version not crazy but a little higher also not retro more sporty..also the two kitchens are excellent..I wouldn’t want the cook top inside. Just the microwave and coffee pot and sink and fridge would be perfect inside…and yes the cooler should be on a slide….how quickly can I get these specs because I would buy one today! Oh and get rid of the tvs…takes to much space. Otherwise I love it!
Drew, I want to get into tear drops. 54 years old and done with tent camping and set up!! I love this trailer except for the rear TV. My issue is usually my height, I’m 6’5” so most of these beds I don’t fit on. I don’t plan on hanging out in there so standing room is less of a concern for me. This trailer being 10” wider than a 320 is what I need. My concern is that I can find NO literature that indicates that nuCamp is the final manufacturer. Or if Ultimate Toys just buys them from nuCamp and widens them. I’m concerned about who would service this. Really love your practical videos!!
These are built by NuCamp for Ultimate Toys. So essentially a NuCamp trailer. As for beds, the majority on the market are 6'6" long. With a pillow though behind your head that 6'6" decreases pretty quickly. Off the top of my head the first long bed I can think of comes from Bend Teardrops. Another bed that potentially could be long is the new Beanstock 2.0. But that trailer has no galley kitchen. It's my current favorite layout, but it isn't for everyone. If I were you I would look at a 6' wide Runaway Camper. Composite materials for longevity, And extra width of space. And I assume there would be more length beings there is no galley. Oh, I forgot to mention it is affordable compared to most brands. If you do take a look at it, let me know what you find out about it in terms of sleeping length.
@@PlayingwithStickspretty close to pulling the trigger between 2 different dealers. What are your thoughts on the solar built into the roof? About a $1500 difference in price between one with factory solar on the roof and one with no charging (would need a solar controller etc). That could buy a lot of stand alone solar panels I’m thinking? Same agm battery set up.
There is price and time, plus a second option I will mention at the end of this comment. And it really depends on what panels they use. A typical affordable larger flexible roof mounted panel from Renogy will cost you about $450 or $260 from Bouge RV. Then you need to install a charge controller. Because even though these are wired for solar, my assumption is that it is wired only for Zamp. And a zamp panel is EXPENSIVE, not to mention heavy. If you pay someone to do this for you it probably will come out close to that $1,500. But if you do it yourself a similar setup would cost you probably at minimum $500 and on average probably $700. So you would save about 50%. I think with all the amenities on this trailer your best option would be a gas or propane generator. That way you primarily would just work off of the AGM battery and if needed you could top off with a generator. The generator would also support those large draw items that this trailer has included. If you haven't seen the Alp generator you may want to check it out.I thin there also may be other knockoff brands now on the market as well.@@geonoc1
@playingwithsticks I pulled the trigger! We got the one with built in solar and love it!!! Just did a 650 mile trip up the east coast bringing it home. Love the space for a rainy day, I can fit, and it still has the outdoor kitchen. May remove the rear tv.
@@geonoc1 Love hearing this! You are not alone with that TV comment. Many T@B owners choose to do the same thing. I have also seen a lot of folks remove the microwave to gain a bit more storage.
How about the price ??❤
Cooktop next to tv in galley,grease all over the screen
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Lengthen the trailer by 2 feet and put in a nice fridge on one side and a pantry/closet on the other side. Like a mini max!
I could see that being a fun design. Have you seen their Micro Max? I think that is closer to what you would be describing. I find it to be a really neat little trailer.
@@PlayingwithSticks Yes! The micro max is not quite as roomy as the mini max. The mini max is perfect because it does have the larger fridge and the closet. But I really do like the styling of the tab!
do you have a link for that tote tank?
It does seem perfect... except that short bed on one side...
Hey my friend! I'm going to wish you a Happy New Year here. I thought I would beat you to it!
@@PlayingwithSticks You did! 😀
Happy New Year! 🥂🍾
Not understanding the dual kitchens. I would prefer IMO the kitchen in the rear to have a grill and the rest storage for a bike, etc. It's all about storage for me.
I kept trying to figure out why this thing seemed so competively priced when compared to NuCamps own lineup. Yes its pricey for a teardrop, but remember, NuCamp trailers are expensive. Considering that it has an entire secondary kitchen, is six inches wider, leather upholstered cushions, a more custom exterior paint scheme and design and more cabinetry, it didnt make sense. You can find these for $32k new at some dealers. A 2024 Tab 320S can be had for 29-30K. Two grand for all that increased space, storage and functionality seemed like a great deal.
But then it hit me. He mentioned a water heater below the sink of the camp kitchen in the back. If this thing had the Alde hydronic heating system that all other NuCamp campers have, it wouldnt need a water heater, because that functionality is integrated into the Alde unit. So these don't have the Alde system for on demand hot water and radiant heating throughout the camper. That's how the price is so much cheaper. Those Alde units alone cost like $10K. So between leaving out the Alde system and the lower rated axle and the lack of front tongue box platform, thats how they got the cost down.
I love the kayout, but I gotta have the Alde. I hope NuCamp comes out with something like this in a more traditional exterior design, without leaving out the Alde system.
Please give my regards to May and the kids. 😊
Will do. May will need it. The boys are sqabbling right now over a Rubik's cube. Haha.
Great video Drew. This camper has lots of smart features but for me it’s just not tall enough. Instead of that extra width, a better opportunity for additional space could have been vertically applied. Many of these tear drops with this level of engineering come so close to competing with larger campers. A bit more standing room would go a long way.
Glad you enjoyed the video. My thoughts are once you get a trailer this tall, you probably aren't too concerned about aero. So I'm guessing adding some more additional height wouldn't be too concerning for most. In reality I think this trailer beats most of the larger campers in terms of build quality. But, like you said, they are cramming quite a bit into a small space. So it is hard to compare the two in terms of usability.
Is this channel a sales venue for New Camp? Because that seems to be all I see from it.
@@ProudJew348 😂 looks like You just got algorithmed. It happens to all of us. Basically, what happens is the UA-cam algorithm thinks you like Nucamp trailers so it keeps serving those videos to you. I'm assuming it's also serving you PJ's videos. But no, we are a small camper trailer channel. You're going to see them all here. If it's remotely popular, it's on the channel. Another reason why you probably are getting served the nucamp videos is they tend to be fairly popular within the community. And that's primarily because they're the easiest to find around the country and the most owners on the road. So videos that have higher views tend to be sent to a wider audience. Check out our playlist or just our videos in general. I think you'll be happy to see the amount of diversity on there.
Cool trailer 🤩😍
AGreed!
Hey Drew, I have been out of the loop for the last few months. This video seems to have taken on a life of its own; lots of views and conversations! Give hugs to May and your boys for me. How old are the kiddos now?
I hope it’s been a good three months! Good to see you. Our last few months have been eventful as we did our annual transition from the States to Thailand 🇹🇭. The family is with me right now, so I promise to give them some hugs. Rye just turned four and East just turned seven. It felt like yesterday that we brought Rye over here to Thailand as a one year old. Time is flying. Hope all is good on your end!
@@PlayingwithSticks I'm a GREAT-grandma x2 now, with 4 grands! Babies grow up so fast.
If we all want a Custom Tear-Drop w/all the features we seek, put your layout/list of features, find a local Auto/RV Fabricator. Thenb submit your design to receive exactly what you want, for thousands & thousands less. You will probably spend close to a year or so awaiting what you want.
If it is that easy sign me up! I have so many ideas that I would love to see come to fruition.
the TV in the outdoor galley is a weird feature. I'd be inside if I want to watch TV and nowadays, everyone has an ipad, so even an indoor tiny TV is near pointless unless you're still watching DVD's.
Regarding the bathroom vent. The bathroom door is open at the top so the ceiling vent fan in the main cabin could be used to evacuate any steam or odor coming from the bathroom. Not ideal but prevents another penetration through the roof or sidewall. The build quality looks good but not a fan of this camper. The cabin layout could be better without the second galley. The size and weight of this model takes it out of the tiny camper category and will be too large for most people. The teardrop shape is aesthetically pleasing but with that, they are giving up interior space that other similar sized, conventional shaped campers have. Cost of non teardrop shaped campers seems to be more reasonable.
Lots of nice features but not sure about two tv’s and two cooking areas…
This is starting to be a theme in the comments. Love hearing everyone' s thoughts on this.
Take a drink every time Sean says "really."
Haha. Sounds like Sean just invented the 2023 New Year's Eve Little Guy Trailer drinking game. Haha.
It would be nice if they had an off-road version. I've never seen a nucamp camper with a propane furnace.
I'm starting to see Intech use propane furnaces as well. I hope this is something that catches on.
The Alde heating system in the T@Bs runs on propane or 120. And the Boondock versions are higher off the ground for off-roading.
Thanks for adding this to the conversation. I love it!@@wendybauman4074
The manufacturer should solve the bunk crises for the consumer. There are neat sling things with tension poles or with mounts.
I would love that. They came up with a really neat solution in their T@B 400 model. They have a fun name for it like the disapering bed. I probably got that name wrong. But, I would love to see it introduced into Nucamps smaller models.
We just bought a 2024 T@B 320 CS-S and we love it. Why would you want/need two kitchens in a small trailer like this? Our kitchen is in the back like this one and we have a great storage cabinet on the inside where this one has a second kitchen. This trailer looks cool but I don't get the concept of this at all. The big advantage of this trailer is the width for sure. I am 5'-8" and I don't think anyone larger would be able to sleep comfortable.
As far and having the bathroom vented, there is a large space above the bathroom door and it is a small trailer so I don't see the need in another roof penetration. The air fan in the main cabin is literally 2' from the bathroom.
I think the advantage would be for someone full-timing. You’re getting the best of both worlds as a solo traveler. Indoor and outdoor facilities. Thanks for sharing about the vent.
@@PlayingwithSticks I recently discovered your channel. I really like it! On our T@B, I agree about the bed options for solo or full-timers though. It would be nice to have some options. Converting our bed from the dinette position is a bit of a pain but we are coming from car camping and backpacking so this is unheard of luxury.
That’s funny, because when I’m with my wife or with my family, everything just feels like work like converting a bed to a table. But if I take the same trailer out by myself, it feels like nothing but benefits. I think when there’s more than one of you, there’s just a lot more items that need to move around, plus having more than one body in the camper. We occasionally take out teardrop trailers that have a table under the floor. We never use it as a family. I practically use it daily when solo traveling. So when I making these videos, I often have to remind myself of solo campers needs, because it’s quite rare that I’m doing this myself. And I’m glad you brought all this up, because it just reminds me I probably need to address solo travelers, and their needs more in these videos
@@PlayingwithSticksThis is interesting. I have done a couple overnights on my own and one night with my wife (we just got the tailer in December). I just did an overnight Saturday night just to be that much more familiar with everything as we are doing a 10 day trip up to Vermont for the eclipse. I do wind up making the full bed although I guess I could make a smaller version. I don't know that I do anything else differently solo versus with my wife but we likely won't use the inside table unless the weather outside is bad.
As I get faster at doing things, they become less cumbersome. All in all, I really love having everything self contained in a little rig. It feels so luxurious to have hot water on demand.
@stevenjoseph8980 love that you’re getting to know your trailer. It took us a long time, but eventually it got so easy. Each trip you just make minor modifications to your camping set up and it makes a big difference down the road.
I would give away the front rack for the extra foot width. However, I would only for an S version; not for a CS-S (clamshell) version.
I never even thought about that. There is something kind of magical about that extra foot of width. It just felt so good inside.
Not the same components are used though..the hot water heater can't be used with propane..but the extra foot in the width us a winner..
Good point. I didn't even make the connection that the Bosch hot water heater meant no Alde system on board. Thank you for clarifying.
Not enough head height inside, thanks for sharing.
I had a feeling we would see this comment often. You are actually the first person to leave this comment though. Thank you for sharing.
Why in the world would you put ac and heating ducts in an Outside Kitchen?
So it’s impossible to make one huge bed?
Sorry, I think I didn't explain that well. If you look again there is one shot with the huge bed. The issue is making a bed and a table at the same time and both of them beinig useful. A big bed works great!
@@PlayingwithSticks thank you
Two gallies in a tiny trailer like this makes no sense. I prefer inside kitchen with back to front two burner cook top for more counter space and use rear kitchen as storage. I also prefer a composting toilet to dealing with a cassette. I would also like a longer Tab, say 20-21' that would allow for a permanent bed. You can't beat Tab's quality And I do love the retro look with the tires and color scheme. It's really a cutie. ❤
The two galleys seem to be the deal breaker for most folks on here. And there are a lot of comments like yours that prefer the indoor kitchen over the outdoor. I like the idea of two kitchens, but one being much more basic. For us outdoor galley folks all we need is just a little single burner and prep space to get the job done inside.
Check out the T@B 400, longer and taller. Permanent bed with Stargazer window. Higher price tag too.
@jodybogdanovich4333 i’m loving the bunkbed on that T@b 400! I wish they would introduce this on their smaller models.
We are buying this next month.
How fun! Keep us up to date on how the trailer treats you.
Thank you, we just picked up for $24,000 brand new.
@@Twicethelimitjust got mine today! Hope you’re enjoying it.