Opening a sealed Led Zeppelin III to determine if it’s truly an original pressing - Collect Co.
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- Opening a sealed Led Zeppelin III to determine if it’s truly an original pressing. Watch yourself to see what happens 👀 Let me know your thoughts!
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Albums were made to be played and listened to .
Hear hear. 😂
This is a contract pressing made at the Columbia records Terre Haute plant. This plant did not ship with an Atlantic records advertising inner sleeve but rather used the square top cut plain white paper inner. Even the inner sleeve, although unmarked, is a signature for this plant and time and is 100% original. When major artist & titles like this were being produced by Atlantic they were generally being made by all three pressing facilities at the same time. Thus there can be three different 'first pressings' of the same record - and all are correct first pressings.
original pressing was a red lable Atlantic
record stores in my area used to reseal opened records, so a sealed record is not necessarily sealed by the manufacturer.
I had to get my original copy out. He has the '68-'73 label (1841 Broadway), while I have the '73-'75 label (75 Rockefeller Plaza, minus the Warner Bros marking for '75 on). I bought my brand new copy either while I was a senior in high school or a freshman in college, so the '73-'75 label on mine makes sense. My album cover has the appropriate Atlantic Records sleeve advertising their current releases - The Stones, Clapton, Yes, ELP, CSNY, etc. Back in those days I worried that the metal grommet would damage the vinyl, so I removed it, with the added benefit that I could pull out the rotating insert and actually see ALL of the printed artwork - the cutouts did not expose the full extent of the disk's radius, especially at the center!
My vinyl does appear to be in better condition, with little sign of wear, always played on a near-audiophile turntable (Pioneer PL-518, Stanton 681EEE or Pickering XSV 3000. Humor me: I know these are antiques!)
However, my pressing has No Stamped Numbers, only the hand scratched serials and my side TWO has a longer 'dead space' which makes me believe I have a totally different pressing although the serial numbers are the same. Very likely a second or third pressing, as this was a very popular album.
Older sealed records used more of a cellophane material. Not very stretchy. Newer material is more stretchy. My opinion only
look at the fade out grooves leading to the label....if it's inscribed with...."do as thou wilt"....then it's an early pressing 😒
They all have that, don’t know where that idea started but it’s not true. My copy from the late 70’s early 80’s has it and it’s at least a ‘77 5 digit press.
The address and the large lettering is of the early mid 70s ..The small letters and the black square W Warner Brothers Trademark is of the latter 70s ..
Regardless looks like a nice example.Sealed records mean nothing to me.
OPEN sealed records. They're yearning to be heard. I've opened sealed og's from R.E.M. The Smiths The Beatles, The Cure, Big Star etc. No regrets.
I hate when people open vintage sealed records, but the title actually got me to want to watch you open it.
People who collect sealed albums without the intention of ever playing them are nothing more than hoarders who deny music lovers of the pleasure that records were meant to provide.
I agree. I'm old school when it comes to leaving sealed vintage albums sealed. Especially a four digit early Led Zeppelin. Unfortunately opening that album devalued it by hundreds of dollars. I see the younger record collectors opening vintage sealed albums all the time.
@@if6was929That's ridiculous and an unfair assessment. First of all there are true record collectors who enjoy having a 50 or 60 year old album in its original factory seal. What's wrong with that? They have their open play copy to listen to. One day when the person sells it to another person they may leave it sealed or open it. Not to mention the monetary value. When this gentleman opened that Led Zeppelin III he devalued it by hundreds of dollars. An original sealed four digit Led Zeppelin III sells for between $700-$900. An open copy in the shrink that is near mint sells for perhaps $100-$150 tops. That is the reality of the situation, agree or not.
@@goplad1It didn’t devalue it if we weren’t positive that it wasn’t an original seal on it. We sold it for $170 tonight. I don’t think a sealed one would bring much more than that.
Normal signs of wearing and tearing 😁
The strange marks on your disc appears to me to be staining caused as a result of this record being wrapped in a PVC shrink - wrap for a number of years. If you search " PVC record sleeve staining " on UA-cam you will find many videos on this subject.
I prefer a guitar pick for the rare occasion I open a sealed record … almost every Atlantic record I own, has their custom sleeve.
I like that idea - a steel razor blade can easily take a small slice off the edge of the record cover or sleeve.
I’d say early 70,s pressing with the 1841 broadway label
Still nice copy and I think was new! Cheers
Without Jimmy's deadwax inscription, it ain't a first pressing, probably a bit later
"When in doubt. I whip it out"
No question that was an original seal. Those breathe holes were all you needed to know that. As for the vinyl those marks are not unusual on Atlantic records from that era. Unfortunately opening it devalued it by hundreds of dollars. I would have sold it as is. Led Zeppelin collectors tend to leave sealed originals sealed. They have plenty of other copies for listening. If you had gotten that album slabbed and graded you are talking several thousand dollars. Personally I don't quite understand the whole encasing an album and then grading it but there are people who pay ridiculous money for a slabbed album. I probably would have opted for that to maximize the investment.
I’m almost positive no record grading company would label it as an 1st pressing in a slab. There is no way to verify unless it is opened.
The first question I had when seeing it was why is the album missing the track listing label that should be on the front.
And THATS WHY you ALWAYS open and clean a NEW sealed record.
Hey Goober. Look for the "Do what thou wilt" etching on the inner groove of side 1 and "So mote it be" on side 2.
Right, if the Crowley quotes aren't on both sides of the dead wax, its not an original pressing.
@@if6was929That’s incorrect. This is a 1970 Terre Haute pressing.
This is an original 1970 Terre Haute pressing. Not all of the first pressings have the inscription. There are multiple different “1st pressings”
My best score was a used LZ2 with that gold sticker about 1 million sold I believe and low and behold, it is a 2 sided Robert Ludwig. I have see 2 like this. Did the distributor put them back in circulation with that gold sticker?
Fantastic shape.
That spot near the outer edge of the record looks like exposure to heat to me
My ex Mother in law worked for a record company distributor and she told me they rewraped albums and they were sent to be sold at cheap prices....
I would have enjoyed a resolution to the question since I don't know the answer.
Could the metal grommet on the jacket have caused that spot of wear on the record?
That’s not a scuff, it’s a pressing imperfection.
Terre Haute was a ‘club’ issue
Let us know on the show
Do what thou wilt
That one has "stamped" matrix no's. It looks like a Columbia Records Club issue. That would explain the "generic" inner sleeve.
proceeds to destroy the thing with a box cutter...lol
better than using a thumb nail and the blade makes nice clean cut
And put his fingers n thumbs all over it
hype sticker???
Records can warp over time due to sealed shrink wrap left on for decades. Btw too many red flags on this record. It doesn’t look right…… Why are you trying to sell this? There’s a big uncertainty here. A second or third opinion-inspection might prevent you from selling something that’s not authentic. I could shrink wrap any of my records, shrink wrap is easy to replace. Scuffs on sealed Lp? Whaaaaa?
We buy and sell records. We sell wanted to open it to determine what it was before we sell it.