The Technology That Will Make Hockey Easier to Watch
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2024
- The NHL debuted new puck and player tracking technology at this year's All Star Game. Cheddar explains why they're bringing back augmented reality tech after 20 years - after it failed the first time.
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The problem wasn't the tech, it was the presentation. If they can make it look good, it can work.
Yup! If it were more subtle back then, it would have been useful to casuals without alienating current fans. I think everyone enjoyed seeing the stats, at least!
Sometimes even a seasoned hockey watcher loses the track of the puck, especially when players bunch up. As long as they do not overdo the effects, I'm all in on this. Who doesn't care about detailed breakdowns of plays and more interesting statistics?
Agreed i dont mind the blue circle but the red line is way to big.
Yeah, like nobody cares about acceleration, speed, passes, etc., especially when it clutters the screen, but some extra stuff might be nice, especially on the replays.
Not at all with the game speed all that extra crap on the screen will just confuse people.
The technology was more relevant 20 years ago for those with the standard 60hz tube 4:3 TVs. It was hard to track the puck with those viewing limitations, but with 4k and 1080 smartphones, tracking the puck is easy enough without AR
And yet, following the puck wasn't a problem for legions of Canadians watching in SD. It's like they want to turn hockey into what football has become with all of the graphic overlays that make it look more like a video game.
as someone who often gets stuck watching games on my phone and is a rabid hockey fan I can tell you it absolutely is not easy. also the stream quality often falls below even 720p when traveling
I agree.
agreed
You get used to it pretty quickly. I used to see the puck fine back in the day on an old crt TV but now I can't see it if it's in 480p on a 42" TV. 4k TV makes it so easy to track the puck and once you have a bit of a sense of the game it's easy to predict where the puck will be going anyways.
With multiple sports channels now, they could easily broadcast two different versions -- one with stats and glowing pucks and one without. On that basis, I have no problem with this development. Choice is good, and if it gets more people into hockey -- all the better.
When fifa world cup is on you have various channels (directv) showing one game, from different angles, even cameras just focused on players, you just switch the channel and watch what you wanna watch, ofcourse wc has alot more money involved though
This is a great idea
NBA has that but only on the internet, it's their deal with TNT, I dont know if they are still doing it until today.
Augmented reality should be Opt-in, tech is rapidly being used to manipulate "live" events much like phone cameras apply more and more "beauty" effects slowly distorting reality.
Exactly
I always thought that HD solved the problem of the puck following, but maybe I'm wrong.
Exactly. The puck is easy to follow.
I have never watched a full hockey game in my life and trust me it's not that easy to follow unless I focus really hard. I am sure if I watched more I would get used to the movement of the puck and players I would be able to follow the game better. The point of the glowing puck is to attract people into the sport and I think it would do that.
I never watched hockey in SD. I’ve only ever seen it in HD and live. Would much rather watch live than on TV. Problem=not solved
@@GovernmentLizard I think for people who grew up watching the game and playing it like many here in Canada, following the puck is second nature. It's easy to spot when you understand the flow of the game. I can understand how people new to the sport might struggle though. I do hope the approach with this tech doesn't go down the road of a glowing puck again though. Rather, use it to help teach the game and show the movement of the puck inbetween play.
@@PandaBearJelly personally I think that the glowing puck if done right would be fine. If it was not just a blue sharpie around the puck it shouldn't be too bad. Say a nice sharp and defined circle about the size of the puck but say red with a bit of transparency shouldn't be too bad
All I know is that NHL played Sweet Victory in one of they matches.
That would be the Dallas Stars haha. Not a Stars fan but that was cool
@@paulishiyama7421 playing sweet victory is one of the least crazy things Dallas has played on their Jumbotron 😂😂
Yeah, Dallas does a lot of crazy shit at their games. Even if you’re not a fan, you gotta appreciate them.
matt “in one of they matches”
As someone that has watched, played, and refereed hockey for many years, I personally don't get the desire for augmented reality. That being said, I can understand how the change might make the game more accessible to new viewers. Please just make it something you can enable and disable.
I would say to just use it during replays for goals and stuff instead of cluttering the screen with it during play.
I agree. But... why cant they just make the puck orange or something. Would it be bad for the players? Honest question
Please god do not bring back the glowing puck
Agreed..... if you can't follow the game maybe watch Curling instead!!
But how will people be able to see the black puck against the white background unless they make it red or blue?
Right with ya
It's almost 25 years later - I'm willing to give it another chance... As long as it's not obtrusively done. After all, are you complaining about the pitch-box in MLB broadcasts, or the 1st Down Line for the NFL? These have both unquestionably been assets to the televised game (albeit, these are static enhancements, while this will be dynamic) - so while I agree with you that it probably shouldn't be necessary, I'm willing to wait and see before passing judgement
@@blairrogers3450 Ahahahahaha
Well.. Is it really the best thing to highlight the puck if you want more people to watch? Wouldn't that give new viewers sort of a tunnel vision? In my opinion if you stare at the puck you'll miss half the game.
If you're constantly watching the puck, you're not watching the game correctly.
This right here just turned me off to Hockey for the foreseeable future. This one post. Well done fucking over your fave sport.
@@Krystalmyth why? Hes 100% right.
No one said anything about constantly
@@Krystalmyth Damn, You make a Klansman look pretty open minded.
this tracking makes it easier to watch other players and still easily be able to look back to where the puck is.
How Fox would report this: MILLENNIALS KILLING HOCKEY
They are they are killing baseball. They are making the commish bring in a pitch clock. The game is not broken its the youth today that want to rush everything.
Noooooooooo!!!!!!!! With 4K 55 inch HD TVs do we still need this?? I can see the puck just fine.
Watched the puck tracking stuff during the All Star game and honestly hated it. The puck's not that difficult to see on TV to begin with. Look where the players are going/facing and you're half way there already. The commentators generally give hints as well. "Player X carries the puck into the offensive zone." Now assuming you know where the offensive zone is, you should be good to go.
It becomes an education curve more than anything. By the time you know hockey inside and out I feel like these overlays would be annoying, though I do see their value in helping newer fans.
By all means if you can bring more fans to the game that's great, but personally I'd like it if they made it so I could switch those overlays off if I desire.
It might be cool for watching highlights or replays, but seeing that constantly would be annoying.
What would be useful for new viewers would be puck tracking tips during the intermissions.
Yes the ability to turn it off is key. Part of the fun for me is seeing ovi wind up for a one timer, and the puck moving so fast, I have to look to the net to see where it ends up. A glowing puck would ruin the immersion for me I think, but I would also like to have it sometimes when I’m viewing on mobile.
Let me see if I understand: to make hockey easier to follow, they want to cover the screen with graphics and make it look like a videogame?
Not interested.
I remember that the glowing blue Puck in 96 that was so bad but loved the mph shot clock 👍. 2019 All Star game had it. I think the puck should only be highlighted if the boards are blocking the puck from the TV cameras.
If NHL wants to promote oversea market like NBA does in East Asia, I will say this indicator is a must. Right now It is just too hard a game for beginners to follow.
I've been a fan for a long time, so the only difficulty I remember about learning hockey is a few small details in the rules. But even without knowing them, I could still sit down and watch the game pretty easily. Like football (soccer), there are 2 teams and 2 nets. The "ball" happens to be a little black disc. Is it the speed of the game that makes it hard?
@@pyRoy6 No it is that the puck is too small. Asians studies too hard in school and many of them have myopia or simply bad eyesight. And many of them have no chance watch this game in stadium.
You chinese better think about your own sports and games, stop being sheeps to the americans!
@@mtksbctk New market is right there in Asia. If you don't go grab it , someone else would. It is as simple as that
@@zhaohuideng8836 yep..plus basketball is 3rd most played sports behind football/soccer and cricket(because indians), NBA have good fanbase in China and Philippines, MLB in Japan, Taiwan and Korea, A steady rise of NFL too, I started to watch NFL recently and witness the greatness of that Brady guy. The problem with NHL and hockey in general is I maybe don't have eye problem but it's really hard to follow when someone strike the puck you don't know where it goes, the only you know it scored is when the goal is blinking light, it's really hard to follow...so I think this is a great idea...
If glow puck comes back I ain’t watching the NHL until it goes away or I don’t have to watch with it
Ok
lies
Hockey is such an underrated sport. Also to avid fans of hockey following the puck is pretty easy but there is a learning curve you might not realize to the game. A main complaint from people new to the game is that the puck is hard to follow. The NHL is trying to tap into new markets and I think if they market differently and implement things like this they can tap into new markets. With the modern tech we got today I don’t doubt that they can make the glowing puck work where it’s not too distracting.
I think if they want to bring back some sort of "glow puck" type thing, add a black outline and shadow to the puck. You need it to contrast as great as possible off the ice.
I think something like this wouldn't be too distracting and would help people see it easier.
I like the host
i like the hosts physical appearance
I could watch this host all day ngl
Whats her @
Agreed. Most female hosts have an annoying voice. She has a normal voice and does a good job at presenting the information. Oh yeah she's pretty attractive too.
NFL has cameras on zip lines for closer cam shots that can work for NHL too.
Tampatec to hard to use the NFL cameras work because the play isn’t constant and play by play. Hockey suddenly switching to that camera would feel awkward to watch and an awkward switch. Don’t think it would work well
Tampatec with the nfl the ball is almost always moving forward, hockey has changes of possession in a split second making it difficult to track on a zip line with the cameras having to swivel repeatedly to keep up with the play
they put cameras on the refs helmet
The NFL also doesn't need to worry about a hard puck hitting the cameras at 60-100MPH and breaking them.
The puck would hit it in a lot of instances
They should use the features of HD TV to allow augmentation to be selectable, just as "closed caption" is. Have separate with/without subchannels, for example. But for watching on devices, special apps could be developed that go beyond what air broadcast TV can do, and offer a menu of overlays.
You could make the puck more subtle, since the picture is now HD. Just show a bit of an exaggerated size, ensure contrast by putting a white outline around it, and show a dotted outline when it is blocked by someone. If that's too much, you could have tick marks on the edges of the screen showing the horizontal and vertical position within the picture -- you have to imagine where they would intersect if extended across the picture. That is great to re-acquire if you've lost track of it, but does not get in the way at all.
As a new NHL watcher i just ask to highlight the puck but make it look modern and cool, and make the net light up every time a goal is scored, i can look up the players stats myself without them blocking the screen
This will be great on the replays, but I cannot imagine watching this during the actual game.
Yeh
Never had a problem with following the puck but I thought glowpuck was great. My grandma started watching hockey because of it. She couldn't follow the game without it.
The video thumbnail is mirrored Seth Jones isn’t lefty lmao
If Fraunhofer is onboard my mind is totally at ease. This will be the best thing to happen to the NHL since Gary Bettman.
Well played sir... I see what you did there.
the Gary!
I'm not opposed to the idea. I just hope the presentation doesn't get smothered with all this information for every play and every game. While all the information provided could be very interesting, I just want to watch hockey. Apart from that however, I do hope the technology helps with determining goals, meaning for plays under review it helps determine whether or not the puck crossed the line... Due to the design of the net and location of cameras, sometimes you don't have a clear and obvious view to determine this and in big games, namely the playoffs, it's even more important to get the right call.
imagine watching hockey and staring at the puck the entire game
been a hockey fan 60+ yrs, i liked that glowing puck thing, guess i`m among the few that did. really happy it`s coming back. the new score-boards are gunna be awesome too. Hockey Rules!!
I recently just got into hockey and have no trouble tracking the puck even on my phone
I AGREE, my friends say it all the time it's difficult to follow, make the names on top of players less opaque and only use last names, and embolden the pucks border and maybe highlight it and high speeds, any thoughts?
I think the stats above players would be cool during replays but please not during regular play. The puck glow is just rediculous.
I really hope for an option to be able to disable it.
Right up front I am not a hockey fan. I did go to an East Coast college that had a club team and I loved watching them even though I knew nothing about the game. I just loved the speed and skill that the players displayed. I liked our team a lot better than watching the NHL on TV, which i called "Murder on Ice" I had always repeated the old joke. " I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out". But my college club players were more about skating and scoring then they were about fighting and hard checking. So even though I did not really understand the game I liked watching them. So when they brought out the glow puck I loved it.
I liked the comet puck.
Me too, in NHL 2003 but I don't like it on TV.
I definitely remember this in the 90's. There was definite lag when the puck was moving fast
I love that the thumbnail is Seth Jones who hasn’t been on the Preds in years
There's a couple reason as to why more people don't watch hockey in the USA. The first would be that its not apart of the countries culture like it is in Canada or Russia. Baseball and football are ingrained in American culture especially seeing as they invented those sports, while its big in Canada for a similar reason, it's uniquely their own sport. People tend to follow sports they can easily play too , hockey doesn't quite fit that mold . It's not an easily accessible sport as it can be very expensive, even if you just want to play pick up games.
Chris Sousa very well put
I stand put by saying that if Americans were the best at hockey, it'd be around the same popularity as basketball.
Didn't they use that technology to develop the graphic for line of scrimmage in NFL?
I don't think there's a sensor in the ball but instead a boat load of cameras iirc
I'd like to see the yellow baseboard made more flexible as to allow more dynamic rebounding and bring that more into a strategy for passing and playing the puck!
The problem is that most people don't understand hockey so they try and follow the puck despite the fact that there are so many other facets of the game that you have to watch but because its hard to see people complain that it's hard to follow
I know I'm not the only one who can track the puck with no issue but then again playing hockey probably helped alot anyone who plays learns to track the puck in there peripheral
This is exciting to see. There's going to bias against it because older people are anti technology. But if it brings in more viewers then it's something we need to evolve into.
I hate it, and before you say "I'm just old" I'm 14.
@@softpianomusic7773 how can you hate it if you've never seen the new one the video is taking about lol. It's supposed to debut next season
@@snake1625b I should of said it better. I mean that I dislike the idea of it. Cuz in the past and at the last all-star game it was trash (in my opinion).
John Fernandez It's not about being anti technology lol. It's about not having an unnecessary spot of colour on the screen. (I realize it may be necessary or wanted by others who cant follow hockey the same way, that's why I fuckin hope this is an optional thing, otherwise I won't be watching the channels that have it)
I will admit at times its hard to track the puck. Not so much now with 4k 65" TVs but its definitely an issue still. I dont need puck tracking but if it gets hockey more viewers then I'm all for it.
All these technological will enhance the presentation and TV viewing experience for sure! The glow puck helped the visually impaired see the puck.
About half the hardcore hockey fans I know stopped watching hockey as the NHL softened. Games (especially rivalries) no longer have the animosity they used to.
If there was a little more checking and fighting the NHL could get their old time fans back while attracting new MMA and Football fans too.
I like cheddar, the few videos I’ve seen have been well referenced too.
I’d love the AR stats and tracking, not so much for ease of use, but in general. I wonder if and how it would apply to NHL channel highlight videos on YT though (my main source of watching), or if they’d still have that option?
Internationally too is what I’d be interested in. I don’t subscribe to NHL.TV because often the games of interest are blacked out and I wouldn’t want to subscribe to a new channel (UK) as well as their own platform, but I wonder if it would work on international channels, I’d assume it would have to?
Interesting times ahead though!
I’ve gotten a lot of my friends and family into hockey by advising them to NOT chase the puck around with your eyes. Honestly, it’s almost an impossible task at times. Just watch the players. They will always gravitate around the puck. Plus, it’s just boring if you are hung up on the puck. 90%+ of the story is being played out by the guys that don’t possess the puck.
I hope this is used for goal online technology in the nhl
Prepare for the NHL analytics revolution. With all that data on hand the statisticians are gonna have a field day. I fully expect new trends to emerge in player valuation and team construction.
Yay! Hockey is cool. I'm American and I sometimes watch hockey. lol
batmanfanforever08 one of my friends plays hockey competitively, and that got me interested in watching it.
batmanfanforever08 lol
Hockey is one of the few sports that has not been wimped in the 21st century.
"Aw fuck guys we gotta take a timeout, the puck needs to charge."
Damn she's a 10/10 😍
Este discurso foi muinto importante para mim
Honestly the game isn’t that hard to follow. As you watch hockey don’t focus entirely on the puck, because then you’ll miss a lot of the game. Just let the cameraman point you in the direction of where to look
People have a problem following the puck in hockey? The announcers do play by play
I feel like it being so small, fast and changing direction on a dime could leave some people like "what just happened"
I definitely did when I first started watching. "Seasoned" viewers are watching so much more than the puck when they watch the game. The camera angle, the sounds, the ripple of the net, and especially the actions of the players tell you a huge amount about where the puck is and what's happening. You could probably watch a game with the puck digitally removed and be able to follow the action.
@@ClosestToTheSun I totally agree, it's very evident what's going on even without the puck.
@@montengro234 I think that's only because of how much you've watched. I think new viewers don't know to look for those clues and so have a lot more trouble following the puck
@@ClosestToTheSun I get that it's not a totally instant experience, but if I could see a black dot on a white rink when I was 7, I think most people should be able to.
Granted I'm Canadian so I've always been around the sport, even if I haven't played in over a decade.
It's about TIME! It doesnt take away from the game only enhances it, it gives you much more perspective on shot angles.
I love hockey and I love stats, looking forward to this
This is a step in the right direction for people who don’t understand where the puck should be going, but to grow the game of hockey, it’s needed to go to the Olympics
Look, I'm Mexican, hockey is incredibly popular in my country... Me and about another 3 guys follow the NHL nationwide. I can only watch the Sunday games on NBC, the playoffs and the Winter Classic. Point is... Even I can follow the puck. If they bring the glowing puck back I will start watching the KHL.
They should keep this for the prime time game like Saturday night or you have a button to turn on and off the tracking things in the game
I started following hockey about three years ago and at first it was hard to follow the flow of the game so I understand why the NHL is doing it. Once you get the flow of the game and you're hooked, it's second nature to know where the puck is. I did watch the All Star game this year and the new "glowing puck" tech far better and less distracting than the stuff from the 90s. In my opinion, I see it as a happy medium for casual viewers, new die hard fans like myself, and those from Canada that have grown up watching and playing hockey their whole lives.
This could be really good in the case of goal reviews
This was a problem in the 90s with big ass box TV's with a terrible resolution. with 1080p-4k TV's and monitors if you cant see the puck these days, you need glasses, not a tracking chip
They aren't looking to add the casual fan, they are looking to bring in the casual gambler. That's what the stats are for.
As an ex hockey player I don't need to see the puck on TV screen. Just by looking at body language of players tells me where it is. But that technology is a good thing.
NHL: We esports now
Like so many companies are learning lately, what is the point of attracting new fans if you just piss off the ones you have? We didn't like it then and we won't like it now, the only way a glowing puck would work is if there was some special channel or SAP button to enable the glow, and even with basic antenna in an HDTV following the puck is easy far easier than in the 90s. A glowing puck aside, things that track player speed and such are fine and rather neat as long as the screen isn't a cluttered mess of random stuff like in the clip shown. If anything they should put 360 cameras on the refs helmets, that's something that would be rather interesting.
And as for the 2018 Stanley Cup final stats, if you look at the teams involved it explains the increase.
If I can see the puck from the stands of the United Center you can see it on TV
If you understand hockey, then you know where the puck is going to be going usually. Plus with 4K TVs and high refresh rate TVs you can see the puck anyway.
Wasn't a fan of tracking the players during the All Star game, but the soft gray line wasn't that bad. Certainly not as bad as Fox's take on it in the 90s.
That being said, TVs aren't like they were in the 90s. You can see the puck on an HD screen. You can see player's faces, where they're looking, where the goalie is facing, the commentators literally saying "Now [player] has picked up the puck, different camera angles, replays if you missed it, etc. Hockey is already as easy to track as ever, and as 4K becomes cheaper and screens become bigger, it can only get easier from here.
Too bad puck tracking will be either on or off depending on the broadcaster. I doubt my home channel will have it on, but you already know NBC is gonna eat it up. Again, I don't mind it, but when you're throwing graphics at the viewers like its a NASCAR race or something, I mean cmon man. That's where I draw the line.
I can follow the puck just fine. If you can't see it looking at the players reactions obviously shows where its going to be and they replay any key moments anyway.
All those stats sound fuckin amazing but HD has really eliminated the need for a glowing puck it’s perfectly visible and not hard to track at all
HD solves the puck following problem for me
They’re not bringing back the glowing puck, they’re giving it an AR “tail” that drags behind it as the puck is passed and shot
Why don’t they just bold the puck with the colour black? Doesn’t have to be flashy. Just slightly increase the colour tone making it slightly easier to see
How about more chances for Canadian teams to make the playoffs, such as a separate playoff series for the top four Canadian teams if all Canadian teams are shut out of the regular playoffs? Hockey is still much bigger in Canada.
Yep. Solid black against a huge white back drop is really hard to keep track of.
Wish there was some way for viewers to decide whether or not they wanted the puck glow
Watching this video was as enjoyable as one of my own video's.
I started watching the NHL back in March of 2015. By the time the playoffs rolled around, I had a already learned how to know where the puck was... It’s not hard to track at all. I like all the stats this new system gives but the highlighted puck in the all star game was just downright annoying.
all i know is NHL '94 was the greatest sega game ever!
I don't mind the extra data and replay implications but if they change what I see on the screen during live play, I will be pissed
The technology that will make hockey easier to watch is already here, and has been for at least a decade. HDTV. All you need is a good, big HDTV and you're set. No need for stupid gimmicks. Just a TV where you can see the puck... even 100mph slappers.
However, I wouldn't be totally against augmented reality to make it seem like you can see the puck through the boards (I seem to remember NHL trying this already, but can't find any proof it ever did). If you watch enough hockey, you can "see" through the boards anyway, but for new hockey fans, that one might actually be beneficial without being too distracting.
I never really watched hockey untill the world cup came to denmark. Watched Sweden vs Russia in the arena and holy fuck it was so entertaining
if you pay attention to the players, they are always flowing with or towards the puck
I started watching hockey in the seventies on a grainy black and white screen. The only way you could tell if your team scored is if the players threw their hands up in the air to celebrate.
Yall need to get some glasses if you cant see the puck..
Make it so you can switch it on/off like closed captioning.
Compared to before year 2000 technology, right now 4k and 120 fps would not need anything special except an expensive internet connection with 2TB data cap to stream that 4k 120fps stream. Hockey is probably the only thing that needs advanced tv technology to be enjoyable. Without needing to make high tech hockey pucks and chips in jerseys.
You ever see a game where the analyst is working on the telestrator, getting ready for his intermission report, but it's drawing on the game in progress? That's what this new tech looks like.
On a side note, I got a good chuckle at the fact Bettmam thinks he has a bead on millennials who don't watch the game. He doesn't even know what die hard fans want.
Also she's pretty cute.....
meh. Age her.
No,Isaidposse she’s 12 duude
@@lukski100 If she's 12, I'm your dad.
She's hot
Just add a little drop shadow like in the EA games
They should develop a jock strap cam. Now they would get viewers!
I wouldn’t mind if it was very faint but idk hockey’s already pretty easy to watch but that’s just my opinion
As a purist...I hated seeing it again at the ASG. If they want to use it overseas, maybe. Or on a replay...I guess
Lol they made Wayne Gretzky's 3D hockey into the real thing
Just have an option for the viewer at home to turn it on or off?
I'm pretty sure I enjoy not being 100% sure what im seeing. the game challenges me to watch extra carefully, and to learn about the games dynamics that insinuate where the puck might be even if I can't see it. that way Im always getting better at understanding the game which is what I value. after 20 years of playing and watching hockey im proud of my watching skill and I think this is why hockey fans are steady, albeit smaller in numbers and the league should value that. I hope I don't get stuck watching broadcasts with all the nuance stripped away by this tech.
Those who do not learn from their history are doomed to repeat it.
I dont even watch hockey but this is pretty cool.