The RAF's unsuccessful twin engine heavy bomber: The Vickers Warwick

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  • Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
  • Most people are familiar with the three four engine heavy bombers utilized by RAF Bomber Command during the Second World War: these being the Avro Lancaster, Handley Page Halifax and Short Stirling. However, what is not as well known is that in the late 1930s the RAF also developed a twin engine heavy bomber, the Vickers Warwick. Plagued by engine development issues, by the time the Warwick was ready for service as a bomber in around 1942, Bomber Command had plenty of the better four engine bombers. Hence, the Warwick never saw service with Bomber Command. Still the Warwick continued development being developed into a transport, air-sea-rescue and general reconnaissance aircraft. It was as an air-sea-rescue aircraft that it saw the greatest amount of service. Post war it was quickly retired from service with about 840 being built.
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    0:00 - 0:10 - Title Card
    0:10 - 1:44 - Development
    1:44 - 3:29 - Prototypes
    3:29 - 4:48 - Transports
    4:48 - 5:59 - Air-Sea-Rescue
    5:59 - 7:40 - General Reconnaissance
    7:40 - 8:06 - Ending
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  • @atilllathehun1212
    @atilllathehun1212 Рік тому +13

    It wasn't really a failed bomber, it just wasn't needed, and it served in many other roles.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  Рік тому +3

      Agree, and it served well in those roles. However I read that its handling qualities were not great and overall it was nothing special as an aircraft.

  • @vipertwenty249
    @vipertwenty249 Рік тому +8

    Nice to see the Warwick featured. An old friend (Kim Siddorn), now sadly lost to prostate cancer, was a collector and restorer of stationary engines. Amongst his collection was an ultra rare Scott 2 stroke marine engine out of exactly one of those type lifeboats in this video. It was a water cooled sealed unit with fuel for 1000 miles. He also had a Vellocette stationary engine out of a Sunderland flying boat. This was mounted in between the starboard inner and outer engines in the leading edge of the wing and was used to start the starboard inner engine when the aircraft was away from base, that engine then being used to start the other engines. Both the Scott and the Vellocette engines were complete and in full running order. I'm fairly sure both engines are now at the museum at the former RAF Manston airfield.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  Рік тому

      They would be quite fascinating pieces. Very interesting. Sad to hear that he has passed (RIP), but at least these very rare pieces are being looked after in a museum

  • @richard63
    @richard63 Рік тому +11

    With the distant shot on the runway, it resembled a two-engined Shackleton. Have never known this bomber existed until now. Thanks for surprising me.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  Рік тому

      True it does have that look to it. It is one of the more obscure designs 👍✈️

  • @francoisprenot-guinard5997
    @francoisprenot-guinard5997 Рік тому +12

    The Warwick GR mk5 turned to be a quite elegant aircraft, far from Wellington-like style of the first versions. I like it. Nice discovery.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  Рік тому +2

      Agree. Was also probably the best version of the aircraft. The addition of the small dorsal fin was a much needed addition

    • @None-zc5vg
      @None-zc5vg 2 місяці тому

      ​@@AntiqueAirshowOther WW2 bombers had problems with inadequate fin/⁰rudder area: the B-17 and the "Halifax " come to mind.

  • @joeschenk8400
    @joeschenk8400 Рік тому +6

    Another good one! Now I have to dig out my old Profile Publication on the Warwick and read it again. Thanks!

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  Рік тому

      Thanks. Nice that should be an interesting read. 👍✈️

  • @keithmclean4283
    @keithmclean4283 Рік тому +6

    Hey, they still made 700 of them and they were very useful. Failure is relative.

  • @raymondyee2008
    @raymondyee2008 Рік тому +2

    Basically a souped up Wellington. They need this in "War Thunder" and other PC games.

  • @bigblue6917
    @bigblue6917 Рік тому +17

    Thanks. It is interesting how aviation history is littered with aircraft which for various reasons never quite made it. Usually because the original requirements behind it had changed or that by the time it was ready the world had moved on.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  Рік тому +2

      It is quite fascinating. Once you start digging you, there are so many different aircraft. I'm still finding aircraft that I haven't heard of before.

    • @bigblue6917
      @bigblue6917 Рік тому +1

      @@AntiqueAirshow I have read about quite a few aircraft like this but it is more often than not just a paragraph or two

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  Рік тому +1

      @@bigblue6917 Yeah that's fair. I'm similar. It's only because of these videos do I tend to dig deeper (depending on the aircraft). I learn alot from making these videos, and it's great. 👍✈

    • @bigblue6917
      @bigblue6917 Рік тому

      @@AntiqueAirshow Well I for one am pleased you share with us what you find out

  • @tomhaskett5161
    @tomhaskett5161 Рік тому +3

    Would be interesting to see an examination of the 4 engined variant, the Windsor

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  Рік тому +2

      I'll add it too the list and see what I can do👍✈️

  • @f1b0nacc1sequence7
    @f1b0nacc1sequence7 Рік тому +10

    I thought of myself as well-informed about the aircraft of the RAF, but until now, I had never heard of this one. Thank you so very much for informing me of something new!

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  Рік тому +2

      No problem. It doesn't get mentioned much. I hadn't heard much about it, until someone brought it up in the comment section on another video

    • @darrenwalley91
      @darrenwalley91 Рік тому +1

      Same here.

    • @johnturner7569
      @johnturner7569 6 місяців тому

      @@AntiqueAirshow I have some pictures of my dad, R.A.F. fitter working on Warwicks in the middle east, 119 m.u. possibly Bahrain.

  • @jamescutright919
    @jamescutright919 Рік тому +6

    Nice video as always-thanks!

  • @MililaniJag
    @MililaniJag Рік тому +4

    Great vid! Had never heard of the Warick before. Thanks!

  • @billy4072
    @billy4072 Рік тому +2

    Alas , poor Warwick .

    • @lancerevell5979
      @lancerevell5979 Рік тому +2

      ...I knew him not at all.
      Interesting plane. Too bad none survive today.

  • @kevanhubbard9673
    @kevanhubbard9673 Рік тому +7

    Never heard of the Warwick but it looks a bit like a cross between a Wellington and Liberator.

    • @badmutherfunster
      @badmutherfunster Рік тому +1

      Glad I'm not the only one that thought so, I think it's the wing shape that does it

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  Рік тому +1

      It does a little. For me the most striking thing about the Warwick is its quite long wingspan.

  • @mpetersen6
    @mpetersen6 Рік тому +4

    While it may have failed as a bomber the aircraft built still provided valuable service as transports and with Coastal Command. Even the B-18 Bolo in USAAF service provided useful service as anti submarine patrol aircraft.

  • @ThreenaddiesRexMegistus
    @ThreenaddiesRexMegistus Рік тому +2

    So, quite a diverse career by the standards of the day. Seems like it was a versatile and useful aeroplane that happened to be eclipsed by events and a switch to four-engined types. Great video! 👍🏻

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  Рік тому

      Yes it had quite a diverse career. It was able to fulfil important secondary roles. Indeed, the only reason it was unsuccessful was due to the need for it disappearing. Thanks 👍✈️

  • @ianbell5611
    @ianbell5611 Рік тому +2

    Thank you.
    Great video

  • @IncogNito-gg6uh
    @IncogNito-gg6uh Рік тому +1

    Ed Nash, Rex's Hanger, Greg's Airplanes, and now Tomato Eins! My head is spinning!

  • @peterbrown6224
    @peterbrown6224 Рік тому +2

    Very pretty aircraft.

  • @simongee8928
    @simongee8928 Рік тому +3

    Odd how many variants that were built but never saw front line service.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  Рік тому +1

      It is. A bit unusual really. But then it was needed for those secondary roles, so makes sense to improve the design.

  • @neiloflongbeck5705
    @neiloflongbeck5705 Рік тому +10

    RAF St Evil made me spit out my tea. I think you'll find it's pronounced St E-val.
    It's a bit harsh calling the Warwick a failure because its role had been taken away from it even though it was still capable of carrying it's designed role.

    • @ashleyphotog
      @ashleyphotog Рік тому

      Saint 'eh-val' is more acurate (can almost see it out of my window right now)

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  Рік тому

      Sorry about that. I try my best to pronounce everything right, but there is usually one or two I can't quite get. Thanks for the pick up.
      I wouldn't call it a failure, but I also don't think it was an overly successful design. You're right it never got the chance as a bomber, but by what I've read its handling characteristics weren't great. It fulfilled other roles (i.e. transportation and air-sea rescue) decently. I guess the point I was trying to go for was that it wasn't a particularly special aircraft.

    • @neiloflongbeck5705
      @neiloflongbeck5705 Рік тому +2

      @@AntiqueAirshow don't worry about it. At least this time it was humourous. British place names can be a nightmare because we have Celtic, Roman, Anglo-Saxon, Viking and then Nornan names. And then we have places vames that deny pronunciation such as Wymondham which is pronounced as Windham.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  Рік тому

      @@neiloflongbeck5705 They can be quite interesting. Most of the time they are alright, but every so often one or two catches me off guard. Hahaha, being from Australia we have plenty of places that defy the rules of pronunciation.

    • @neiloflongbeck5705
      @neiloflongbeck5705 Рік тому +1

      @@AntiqueAirshow but aren't many of them based on the languages of the original settlers of the land?

  • @tedsmith6137
    @tedsmith6137 Рік тому +1

    I believe the standard of naming Vickers aircraft after British towns included the use of towns starting with the same letter as the designer. Hence the Warwick and Wellington were designed by Barnes Wallis.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  Рік тому

      That is really interesting and makes sense. I didn't know about that. Thanks for sharing 👍✈️

  • @sergeipohkerova7211
    @sergeipohkerova7211 Рік тому +6

    It looks like a Wellington and a Junkers 86 had a lovechild.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  Рік тому

      Yeah it does a little. The long wingspan was something that stood out for me on the Warwick.

  • @commandingjudgedredd1841
    @commandingjudgedredd1841 Рік тому +1

    One of those aircraft crashed into a forest near my town in the late Forties. No survivors. The crash site is understandably not marked.

  • @alexwood5425
    @alexwood5425 Рік тому

    So which one needed the invasion stripes?

  • @eugenemurray2940
    @eugenemurray2940 Рік тому +1

    Can't be that unsuccessful if wearing D-Day stripes

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  Рік тому

      That is true. It was unsuccessful in its intended role as a heavy bomber, however it was successful in other roles such as reconnaissance aircraft

  • @ronjon7942
    @ronjon7942 Рік тому +4

    This was the first time I've heard of an American engine being fitted to a British aircraft - pretty neat. Does anyone know of other examples, excluding aircraft like the Tomahawk?

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  Рік тому

      I feel like there may be one or two more, but can't think of any off the top of my head. A version of the Short Stirling was designed to have Pratt & Whitney engines although it never went into production.

    • @secretaryharpsoctas4950
      @secretaryharpsoctas4950 Рік тому +1

      @@AntiqueAirshow The Bristol Beaufort springs to mind. 176 British Built with Pratt and Whitney Twin Wasp radials. 700 Australian built likewise with Pratt and Whitneys. Australian built aircraft replaced rifle calibre machine guns with .50 calibre brownings.

    • @secretaryharpsoctas4950
      @secretaryharpsoctas4950 Рік тому +1

      Correction, 167 British Built not 176. It's dyslexia, old age or all those chemicals I was exposed to during military service. Perhaps all three.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  Рік тому

      @@secretaryharpsoctas4950 That is very true, how could I forget. The Australian built Bristol Beaufighter would also be another example. The Australian built Beaufighters were quite the fighting machine.

    • @secretaryharpsoctas4950
      @secretaryharpsoctas4950 Рік тому +1

      @@AntiqueAirshow You're right about the Australian built Beaufighters being a formidable aircraft. They also replaced the .303 machine guns with .50 calibre brownings. A recognition feature on the DAP ( Department of Aircraft Production ) Beaufighters was a bulge in front of the pilot which housed a Sperry autopilot. DAP / Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation became the Government Aircraft Factory near Melbourne which built Sabres, Canberras, Hornets, Nomads and other types.

  • @paulhunter7002
    @paulhunter7002 Рік тому +1

    Was the Warwick to the Wellington the equivalent of the Lancaster to the Manchester?

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  Рік тому +1

      My understanding is no. The Lancaster was more or less a development of the Manchester where as the Wellington and Warwick were somewhat separate designs, built alongside each other. Probably more similar to the relationship between the Beaufort and Beaufighter. Built sharing many common features to enable quick switching during manufacturing.
      That's my understanding of it, hope that helps 👍✈️

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman Рік тому +2

    👍👍

  • @lesrush6298
    @lesrush6298 Рік тому +1

    Looks like a wellington

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  Рік тому

      Indeed. They share quite a few similar parts. No surprise they were designed alongside each other.

  • @trooperdgb9722
    @trooperdgb9722 Рік тому +3

    And as always..ENGINES were a big part of the problem. Maddening...but predictable I suppose. I suspect those who were saved by equipment/ lifeboats dropped from Warwicks would disagree with the "not very succesful" label!

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  Рік тому +2

      Indeed. Engines development always seems to cause issues. That is very true. The Warwick did its job, so I guess it was reasonable aircraft

  • @luckeyhaskins1734
    @luckeyhaskins1734 Рік тому

    The R-2800 was the most reliable performance engine of WWII. It’s too bad this great aircraft didn’t continue using it for its main power plant. It could be still flying because of its superior reliability. It could have morphed into the USNavy P-2 serving the RAF and USN. Lost opportunity!

  • @julianmhall
    @julianmhall Рік тому

    To me, two engines don't say 'heavy' bomber. Heav/ier/ than current bombers maybe and probably what the specification should have said, but the later four engined types were the only true /heavy/ bombers. Two engined types were medium bombers. That being said the Warwick was probably in the same class as the Manchester, 'good but no cigar'.

    • @Rev6044
      @Rev6044 Рік тому

      It was a heavy bomber by mid-thirties standards.

  • @gerhardsteinmayer3176
    @gerhardsteinmayer3176 Рік тому +1

    Too few too late. Britain had limited resources. Now it has none.

  • @nbandpinportugal
    @nbandpinportugal Рік тому +1

    I don't see the logic of producing two almost identical aircraft. Wouldn't a more radical alternative design have made more sense ?

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  Рік тому

      Perhaps, but having two similar designs made it easier to manufacture the two as they could easily switch back and forth. Also, when in service it was easier for squadrons to switch between types.

    • @nbandpinportugal
      @nbandpinportugal Рік тому +2

      @@AntiqueAirshow What an incredible aircraft industry we had in those days. Nowadays, we have to collaborate with several nations just to hang on to one homegrown fighter.