The Armenian Genocide
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- Опубліковано 5 січ 2022
- From 1915 to 1917, up to 1.5 million Armenians were massacred.. this is why.
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Get ready for the Turks trying to frantically defend this
Yes, and most importantly , denying and downplaying it.
Im a turk and wont defend it! Only the islamists and nationalists will defend it with their lives!
I was looking in the comments for one but haven’t found it yet, shockingly.
Sadly there's at least one already.
@@TheBLGL They are all on the Young Turks channel anyhow...
Uruguay was the fist country to officially recognize the Armenian Genocide in 1965. To this day, Uruguay has a large and prosperous armenian community.
I imagine Turkey 🇹🇷 was not happy with Uruguay.
@@itsblitz4437 Who gives a shit?
@@itsblitz4437 I bet their just shitting the bed thinking about what turkey could possibly do to a small country half way across the globe
@@problems3485 well that was the joke. Genius.
@@itsblitz4437 I was going along with it
Thank you, Simon. My old algebra teacher was born on a US merchant marine ship after his mother was taken on board in Lebanon. She had passed out on one of those marches in the Syrian desert and found by a man and his wife who lived in the area. They nursed her back to some semblance of health and passed her along a chain of relatives to the coast where she found berth on the American ship. I can´t bring myself to write about the things I grew up hearing growing up in Fresno, where so many surivors ended up settling. People can be so demonic.
I’m glad you and your mother made it. I hope you live a long and prosperous life friend
@@dragonfistotto9201 It was my math teacher😀 And he did, he did.
And may we not forget the kindness of Syrians
@@johnotm Absolutely!
@@johnotm and Iraqis. Many Armenians still live there and have a great love of Iraq. They took Armenians in, they were being attacked by the ottoman dogs as well.
The Turks also committed Genocide against the Assyrians and pontic Greeks.Turkey needs to recognise the Genocide and quit trying to reinvent history.
Thats true indeed.
nawww dont cry
@@wasbruda2098 EAD dogg
@@paulw3747 no bro we are eating little children dont u know that?
@@wasbruda2098 you're not doing shitm
You're just a sad key board warrior talking big game.
Turks kept their mouths shut when we put our memorial here in Sydney.
They'd get eaten if they opened it.
As a Greek, I outstretch my love to my brothers and sisters of Armenia. May Greece stand with you, now and forever! 🇦🇲 🇬🇷
My great-grandparents survived the Armenian genocide and found refuge in Athens Greece, my grandfather was born in Greece.
Thank you my brother.
We love our Greek brothers and sisters and will always stand by and support Greece forever!!! 🇦🇲❤️🇬🇷
🇹🇷👌🇹🇷👌🇹🇷👌🇹🇷
@@turkoglu5177 go back to Mongolia
It's ironic that Turkey demands countries like Germany respect and pander to the Turkish minorities living in those countries but Turkey itself mistreated the minorities living in Anatolia. They even expelled thousands of Greeks to preserve the "Turkishness" of Anatolia but at the same time claim that Turks make Germany a more "diverse" country.
Political and religious extremists never had integrity and never will. You would think that even at the ends of the political spectrum people still value honesty, but they dont because if they would, they wouldnt be extremists in the first place.
Yes, the Greeks were not diverse enough, for a homogenous Ottoman empire. Please, feel free to bitterly laugh in irony...
Talk about the jews. Even Israel doesn't recognise the Armenian genocide
One thing that has come up for me when researching the scottish side of my family is that there is an interesting mindset, comon among the more clannish folks but not limited to them, that nothing we do to anyone else comes close to what has been done to us, and therefore the wrongs WE do are negligible. Always. History becomes a game of "whataboutism".
@@rohiths9099 and thank goodness that political ship has sunk.
Considering the level of automatic hostility Israel has faced- they really try hard to keep the few “allies” in their good books.
Thanks to erdogan, most relations with turkey have been sabotaged- allowing the Israeli government to openly recognize the genocide of the Armenians.
But hey, why be surprised if the whole world currently kissing CCP’s ass?
The paternal side of my family are descendants of survivors. Thank you for this.
My family, too are Turks descended from survivors of Armenian violence in Erzurum.
ua-cam.com/video/1nij_I3RS6Y/v-deo.html Bernard Lewis,Hİstorian
As a South African national I recognize that the Armenian Genocide happened. 🇦🇲❤🇿🇦❤
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@@Abdlsamett Turk detected
Do you want a fucking cookie?
@@maxbear7961nah dont want my data to get stolen
As a descendant of Armenia and the genocide, I grew up hearing the stories of what happened to my family and our people. Truly brutal and heartbreaking stories, then to look over to my great grandma who survived the genocide and what she had to do to survive. Thank you for sharing this Simon and Team. As Ellie Wiesel said, “if we forget the atrocities of the past, we will blind ourselves to the atrocities of the present.” Much Love y’all ✌️💙
According and Cenk Uygur and Democrats this never happen and everything he's saying is a lie. But then again Democrats are trying to rewrite history all together.
@@itsmaam742 you've copypasta'd this incomplete statement several places in this thread? Didn't know turkey had a "Democrats" if you're talking about the Americans... It's not the Democrats who try to rewrite history heh... That's literally peer reviewed fact... Poor right wingers in America... Sooo sad. Can't even man up and admit their own mistakes. Bunch of snowflakes that bunch...
@@bayoubilly5176 Did I hurt little Billy's feelings?
eli wiesel is a known liar, why would you quote that
@@aWILDsomethingCAME What did he lie about? I look forward to your sources.
In a dark sense, it's ironic... Turkey lashed out at Armenia, it's culture, and the Armenian race in some violent death rattle as the empire collapsed. It's a fairly good example of an old Armenian proverb, "A drowning man will clutch at straws."
How ironic. Now we are independent state and not a mere puppet of other world countries and the ones who rebelled are just a satellite to russia and slave to their hatred...
Shoutout to my fellow armenians from Bulgaria! We know, we understand, we support the armenian people in their battle!
Благодаря много
@Mehmed Islyamov No, man, we were slaves in the Empire…
@@pavlinthedentist sen imparotorlukta köle olup nasıl hala bulgarca biliyorsun asıl köle 1451-1870 yılı arası türklerdi bulgarların kaçtane veziri vardı o dönem biliyor musun üstüne üstlük asıl soykırımı bulgar rejimi yapmadımı ve de baskıyı örnek Naim Süleymanoğlu
@@tuna708 Anlatamazsın kardeşim boşuna yorulma.
AYYY
System of a down did some amazing work publicising the Armenia Genocide. Serj even took Antony Bordain to Armenia and shared their culture with him.
Wonderful guy!
The whole band are descendants of genocide victims. Theyve been fighting for the admittance of the genocide since the 90's. They seem to be doing good work.
i wonder why soad is banned from turkey... 🤣😂
serj rocks! 🤘
If It hadn't been for System of a Down, this may have been the 1st time I'd ever heard of this tragedy.
I am Turkish-German and my great aunt used to talk about the killings (my family used to be nomadic and live in what is today Northern Syria. Before they were expulsed by the Arab nationalists themselves). My father's cousin also had an "unusual name" which was different than what was written on official documents. I later found out that her mother was Armenian. Given the fact that my parents village lies on the road to Syria, I only had to count 1+1 together in order to actually know that the Genocide happened in a large scale and wasnt just a "limited tragedy" or whatever you hear from the propaganda.
In Greece we have many people with unusual names as well
Usually is an obviously greek or Armenian surname with " - oglu " at the end , the usual explaination is that in some areas the local authorities was pressing people to take the name or the religion ...
@@Pavlos_Charalambous depends on the name I think and the region where the person came from. Surnames weren't something "normal" in the Ottoman Empire, they were only officially introduced during the Turkish Republic. The only people who really carried Surnames were Non-Muslims. I know that many officials and Private persons alike used "nick names" in order to identify families or indidividuals. The name "Papasoglu" for example, it literally means "son of the priest." There were regions where officials oppressed Christian communities, in others they mostly assimilated culturally but stayed Christian (either Greek Orthodox or Armenian Apostolic) or they were descendants of Turkic tribes who moved to the Byzantine Empire and converted to Christianity ever since. I also know of Jewish families who changed their name when they moved from Spain or Italy to the Ottoman Empire (e.g. Toledano became Hekim, Cuenca became Antebi).
@@hakanozaslan9571 am aware of that as well, there were even Turkic tribes assimilated into the Byzantine society for example the surname " Tourkopoulos " literally means " the son of the Turk " or " Turkish lad " if you like . Things often are more complicated than the official national narratives often are 😉
You’re not “Turkish-German” but a Kurdish-German, First you should stop the denial of Armenian revolts and terror which has resulted in hundreds of thousands of dead Turks in the Eastern provinces of the Ottoman Empire. You should accept the great treason by the Armenians against their own state during the WWI by collaborating with the invading Russian and French armies. And finally you must apologize for your lies. Only then we'll take you serious and start talking seriously.
@@DevletGM you aren't even from Turkey and you try to define my ethnic roots? 🤣 Sorry dude, family is from Gaziantep and my ancestors have been living there since they arrived from Horasan in Central Asia. And nope, not Kurdish or Arab either.
It really is depressing that genicides not only keep happening, but are attempted to be erased.
Currently there are so many genocides happening right before us in India, China and other areas. Yet, nothing happens to stop it.
Never again- starting next time…
If we really knew how many tribes and cultures we've destroyed along the way it's probably more people than are currently alive
Because humans are predictable animals. People delude themselves into thinking we have changed at all. We are just as savage and vile as we were 1000 years ago. And a 1000 years before that.
More vile now cos we have the tech to kill industrially
@@LaFonteCheVi Reminds me of the quote from Kohelet (Ecclesiastes) 1:9
"All that is, will be, and all that was done, will be done, for there is nothing new under the sun"
Thank you as an Armenian for covering this. Not many people are brave enough to talk about this on their channel
And now it is repeating itself but with Palestinians and we have one of the most influential aremenian women on the planet able to stop it… but can’t
@@nah7140 Really i don't recall Palestinians being sent on death marches.
@@nah7140 don't hijack this tragedy to compare it to something much more complicated for your own agenda. shame on you.
Thank you for covering this Simon. It needs to be talked about.
@@muhan6831 I understand you are insecure about your own culture but why do you have to spread outrageous misinformation. 😂😂 Armenians were the first ethnic group to settle in the Caucasus it's physically impossible for the minority amount of Armenians to kill 3 million Turks. Just because you have no history doesn't mean you have to change other people's. I hope one day you can cleanse the jealousy inside of your soul.
@@muhan6831Lies
@@muhan6831 What do u know 😂😂
@@muhan6831 Hamshens are Armenian bro
@Muhan youtube opinions aren't reliable sources lol.
As a descendant of Armenian Genocide survivors (and a big fan of all of your channels) I truly appreciate the time you took to make this video. It’s been over a century (4 generations in my family) that we have been forced to live away from our ancestral homes in the western portion of the Armenian Highlands (falsely relabeled as “eastern Anatolia” in 1941) and we still hold on to our heritage, our faith, our language, and our culture despite being forced to live away from our homes. Thanks again!
Armenians commited the circassin genocide together with their russian masters! Of course circassians were not happy with armenians in the ottoman empire
@@Hasanbas-rv3vmwhataboutism
Classic muslim
@@user-zc4sx9ig6p every action has a reaction - isaac newton
What do Armenians think of Jews and Israel? Since they under the Genocide that Muslims did to them, I think Armenians would be supporters of Israel and the Jewish people and against Muslim Terrorist GRoups like Hamas and Hezbollah.
@@user-zc4sx9ig6p crying about a fire that you have ignited, Classic Christian
The final project I did in college was a five minute podcast on the Armenian Genocide. It was difficult to find information about the genocide from reliable first hand sources. I remember opening the podcast with a quote from Adolf Hitler in reference to the Armenian genocide to justify the Holocaust. Thank you for producing this video bringing more attention to this event that is so often overlooked.
that quote is fabricated, it would take you nothing more than a 5-10 min google research to actually discover that
@@fusionreactor7179 no it’s not lol his quote came from his order to Wehrmacht commanders on August 22, 1939, a week before the Nazi invasion of Poland, the creator of the word genocide even said he coined that term after hearing how Jews and Armenians were being treated
Werent ukraine and armenians in that same struggle at the same time almost?
@@brianticas7671 maybe,but because of Ukraine supports turkey and azerbaijan, obviously not many armenians support Ukraine
Thanks for your work , greetings from Armenia 🇦🇲
thank you so much for recognizing and covering the armenian genocide!
According and Cenk Uygur and Democrats this never happen and everything he's saying is a lie. But then again Democrats are trying to rewrite history all together.
@@itsmaam742 I read that Cenk Uygur doesn't deny the Armenian Genocide anymore, but still...the name for his talk show "The Young Turks" is a slap in the face to Armenians. Jön Türkler or Genç Türkler (The Young Turks) was the name of the political group that massacred Armenians under the guise of the "Committee of Union and Progress."
@@marcusg.2910 It was because they were Christians, and democrats and TYT don't like christians
@@itsmaam742 I am a Christian. I am not a Democrat, but I am not a Republican or a conservative either. To me, conservative politics don't resonate with Jesus' teachings of non-judgment and caring for and walking with the poor and downtrodden. UA-cam comments are really not the place for an argument on the matter, so I want to suggest we stop here and consider the other's point of view by looking up articles from the others' perspective and talking and listening to people in our lives who don't have the same view as we do. We can all learn from each other, but lets do it locally instead of devolving into UA-cam comment arguments. It's difficult to continue a civil conversation virtually, and, its great to strengthen ties with our local communities even when we disagree with others on certain topics. Not that you've argued with me! I just worry about how these things end up going! I looked up more about Cenk Uygur because of you, so thanks for sharing and giving me an opportunity to be openminded to new facts and ideas. God bless!
@@marcusg.2910 conservative politics don't resonate with Jesus teaching? Dude, Dems do not like christians. what about abortion? maybe your still in college and dont really get the real world or how politics really are
I am very glad that Simon doesn't shill for likes at the end I'm glad he doesn't put ad reads in these. I'm glad it just let It drop and walks away.
@@muhan6831 then obviously what China is doing to its Muslim minority. After all its against extreme groups that have killed Chinese citizens so its justified right?
To this day, you can still trigger a Turkish Nationalist by saying only one word.
"Armenia."
Now its Kurd.
Turkish nationalists deserve to be in a constant state of being triggered.
Been talking to this cute Armenian girl and we were making plans for dinner So Iasked her if she'd like to go to this Turkish restaurant and she responded with a link to the Wikipedia page for the Armenian genocide
@@theunbeatable6598 not surprised, since there might chances they would spit in the food before serving it, once they find out her nationality.
@@mannequinofscots5246 Not really, only the Armenians are extra salty about turks for no good reason
I’m excited to read all the kind, respectful comments later on.
You're new around here aren't you
Like mine??
Lmfao, can't wait
@@cravenmoordik And you don't seem to understand sarcasm, doofus.
@@bagsmohess And you seem to miss a person making a comment with their tongue firmly in cheek. I'm not going to call you a name.
Please can you cover the formation of Northern Ireland, and “The Troubles”? I know it’s a scary place to explore (especially with Brexit flaring issues) but I think more people need to understand the history and situation.
To do it any justice the video would need to be about 4 hours long.
Yeah, it would be interesting to see it coming from an English guy (I know he doesn’t care and says what the truth is, which we all should applaud him for)
I don't know, one he did on Maori was dissappointingly inaccurate and when he got criticism he just said a real historian wrote this. It was still not accurate.
@@flashrobbie :( I’m so sorry that’s awful 😞
@@CashelOConnolly he used to put resources but got in trouble when one of his very old sources on an old video was turned in to something pornographic
So tends to leave sources on some of the websites that are linked.
Turkish history is not a Turkish delight
Haha, both suck ass equally imo. Great dad joke!
@@Juliankb39 like ur mom?
@@bayhickimse3505 yes
@@Juliankb39 cope more
@@attilamert6973 with what exactly? I'm not Turkish ( thank God ) and Turkish delight really sucks ass. Baklava is good shit though
I was a pen pal with a Turkish fellow years ago. It's amazing how much talking about this triggered him what was at the time eight decades after the fact. Thank you for sharing this!
It's ironic that Turkey demands countries like Germany respect and pander to the Turkish minorities living in those countries but Turkey itself mistreated the minorities living in Anatolia. They even expelled thousands of Greeks to preserve the "Turkishness" of Anatolia but at the same time claim that Turks make Germany a more "diverse" country.
According and Cenk Uygur and Democrats this never happen and everything he's saying is a lie. But then again Democrats are trying to rewrite history all together.
@@itsmaam742 european democrats are in the process of turning western europa into a turkish province and it is sad to see they are succeeding as well.
why be his pen pal?
@@theawesomeman9821 I wasn't after that interaction.
Comparative Genocide class didn't have time to cover the Hamidian Massacres. Thanks for adding to the background. Seems like prior instances of mass violence towards a people is a prerequisite to normalize genocide.
You took a Comparitive Genocide class? While studying History? Or Law? Just curious
My friend teaches a course on genocide at an American museum, I believe she is a professor in the criminology department. She actualy managed to sneak me onto the basic course and it was incredibly interesting. But I must admit at times, say whilst watching men talk about what they did during the Rwandan genocide, that I wished I could reach through the screen and throttle people. You really had to know when to just take a break before it got too much.
Turkey's official stance in the matter has always been and still is a sign of weakness and fear. Fear of what it would mean when they admit what everyone already knows. A fear that has no basis in reality.
it's not fear or weakness. It's contempt and disdain for the Armenians (and pontic and smyrna Greeks) and the international world, and the absolute non-presence of any feeling of responsibility for their own actions because no one ever held them accountable for anything.
The same rotten organisations and countries that turned the Germans into a backward guilt-ridden people after world war 2, failed to ever hold the Turks (and the Kurds for that matter) accountable for these mass killings, and actively prevented anyone from doing so, because of NATO-interests.
It's beyond sad.
@@ericvosselmans5657 Of course they show contempt to minorities, in an official capacity at the very least, but I firmly believe that they are frightened to admit wrongdoing. We didn't call the Ottoman empire a 'clay legged giant' for no reason...
Turkey is afraid of the consequences if they recognize the genocide. The Turkish government certainly have to pay reparations to Armenia and Greece. Turks don't want another headache. Much more now, Turkey's economy is in a tailspin! The Turkish economy is stagnating since last year
@@armandotalampas4800 The reason Turkey doesn´t and will not accept any responsibility is, due to both Greeks and Armenians doing the same thing to the Turks, that we get accused of doing to them. Crete, Thessaloniki, Yerevan, Stepanakert were places with each 40% turkic populations, they all were killed or deported in much the same manner. The conflict also didn´t start randomly with Turks doing this, it started with the Greek revolution of 1821, way way before the Turks committed any of the supposed crimes. Turks don´t claim innocence, surely people died, we do not deny the deaths. We deny causation, big big big difference, which is often overlooked. Also, this topic is always fed through the biased lense of armenians who are emotionally invested in this, to reach a consensus you need to listen to both sides, as history is not black and white. Greece and Armenia are ethnically homogenous, I wonder what happened to all minorities in those countries, while in Turkey the people still exist, next to my village is an armenian one, next to that a circassian one. Also. if the Genocides were so bad then how did so many Armenians and Greeks escape from the desert to land in america a nation on the other side of the world.
As stated before, I do NOT deny human tragedy and loss of life, I simply am adding that the causation wasn´t ethnic cleansing and that we ourselves have suffered at the hands of armenians, just as much as they claim they have from us.
P.S If you want someone to blame for atrocities, the kurds were actually the forces that did the crimes, as all turkish soldiers were at one of the 4 fronts, just a side note for you. This is also why there was a demographic shift in eastern provinces where mostly armenians lived, now live mostly Kurds, I wonder why, hmmm.
@@adidoki TU quoque/correlation-causation fallacies on full display.
I sure hope this channel starts landing sponsors, UA-cam won't be monetizing
UA-cam hates real history. The constantly fuckover Time Ghost’s channels.
This comment section is already cancer, with some people triggered by this info trying to equate the Armenian Genocide with other social catastrophes, and trying to shift the the blame onto Americans, English, French: "What about the Native Americans who wanted independence?", "What about Africans who fought for the Allies against Hitler?", and other questions that give you terminal cancer.
this is so true. it was exactly this way when Joe Biden chose to recognize the Armenian genocide.
Im surprised the comments are just a bunch of angry turks.. usually thats what happens with you mention armenians or kurds
You came too early. Come back in 12 hours.
I did a report on this in High School, my partner and I went on to have the paper published in the school newspaper because of the fact no one really knew about it other than us because his grandparents had lived through it. Sad times, truly a tragedy.
It's amazing the horrors we unleash on our own species.
Especially when we believe we're not the same species
On other species too, we just don't care much...
@@FranFerioli Animals do the same things. They just don't have the tech or intelligence to carry it in a organized and large scale manner like we do.
@@0816M3RC And also not the cognitive ability to reflect on themselves the way we can. Kind of a big responsibility for us.
@@0816M3RC Chimps are the best example. They even use some of the tactics humans employ. Its funny cohencidence the tact is referred to as guerilla warfare. Yet its human and chimps, not gorillas that use this tactic. I know its of Spanish origin, not after the primate. Plus Chimp Warfare don't sounds right.
Great thing that the Armenian genocide is becoming a more well known event. On a similar note, you shold do a video covering the Greek genocide, as more than 500,000 Greeks of Anatolia, Asia Minor's shoreline and the Black Sea suffered the same fate as the Armenians, plus forced labour death-camps, just like in WW2 Germany. These actions of the Ottoman/Turkish state led to the death or deportation of the Greeks of Asia Minor. Those people had lived there since 1100 BC, suffered greatly when the Ottoman appeared, all the way until they were finally exterminated or expelled. Some excellent novels have been written on the subject, from people that saw first-hand the destruction and escaped the slaughter. Some of them are: "The Number 31328" by Ilias Venezis, "Matomena Chomata" (Land drenched in blood) by Dido Sotiriou and "The Testament Of Ionia" by Filio Chaidemenou. Must-reads for everyone, highly recommended.
Inventing more as we go
Assyrians as well! I feel like people fail to realize that it wasn’t just us Armenians that were targeted. Millions of Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians died at the hands of the Ottomans.
@@blistertooth dont forget about the 3 million babylonians
As an Armenian, our Greek and Assyrian brothers deserve their recognition too.
@@fusionreactor7179 Denialism is a bad look dude
thank you for covering this. I'm not Armenian, nor related... although maybe very far...I never were educated about it. great first introduction. hope people will pick that up and keep educating themselves. long overdue.
My Master's Thesis related heavily to the genocidal policies of the Ottomans (titled "Humanitarian Efforts of Dunsterforce"), and have to say you did a great job surmising the main points. However, there are a few points I wish you elaborated upon more.
Firstly, much of the violence was left up to the discretion of provincial governments. Mehmed Reshid, the "Butcher of Diyabekir", was particularly brutal. He would hire Kurdish tribes explicitly to hunt down Armenians, divide the wealth, and eliminate the evidence (i.e burn or drown the bodies).
Secondly, the Policies were not just isolated to Ottoman territory. The Persian (now Iranian) Offensive by the Ottomans during 1915/ 1916 aimed at breaking the Russians on the Caucasus Front. Many Christian Minorities (Armenians, Chalcideans, Assyrians, etc) were also targeted and murdered by Ottoman soldiers and irregular militias (with certain figures, like Shimko Shikak, assassinating key religious leaders and harassing communities like Urmia). Essentially, the conflict between ethno-religious groups spread wherever the Ottoman forces were present, such as Iran and Azerbaijan. This pushed many groups "on the fence" about the war to join the Russians in pushing the Ottomans out of Iran and deep into Anatolia itself. Russia may well have defeated the Ottomans single handedly by 1917 if they were not stopped by the Bolshevik Revolution.
Thirdly, the Orphans were treated far worse than just being "orphans"... A common insult, used both now and back then, was to call these children kılıç artığı , which means "Leftovers of the Sword" in Turkish. This is akin, if not worse, than calling an African American the "N" word to their faces in terms of generational trauma.
Fourthly, the conflict between Armenians and the Turks was, at the time, a subsection of a broader ethno-religious conflict. Following the Armenian situation, the Greeks also went to war against the Ottomans. When it ended in 1923, there was a population swap where Greek speaking Muslims and Turkish speaking Christians were "swapped" between countries, and were not allowed to return to their homes. Some of these empty villages exist to this day though they are isolated.
Fifthly, during the fall of the Ottomans, many attempted to establish "Armenia" as its own state. When the Ottomans defeated Armenian in 1918, they melted away due to the Russian support dissipating. Armenia would eventually be divided between the Turks and the Russians in 1921 despite the Bolsheviks promising they had no ambitions to annex them.
Lastly, the precedent set by the Armenian Genocide, and the ensuing political fall out in the 1920s, were direct inspirations for the Third Reich's genocidal policies on European Jews. As there was a lack-lustre international response from the international community in what was the "first" internationally recognized genocide, the Germans believed they could follow through with what had come before. What the Nazi's did was not "new", it was perfected from a system that had already existed previously.
Genocide denial is an extremely important subject to call out, recognize and criticize. If we do not, then we not only set a terrible example for those that come after us, shame the sacrifice these people made to ensure this lesson could be learned, and potentially lead to worse violence in future generations.
Well written.
I will just add a veryyyyy small correction the exchange of populations was between Christian and Muslim populations of Greece and Turkey , that means Turkish, Cretain Albanian and slav Muslims from Greece and Greeks , Armenians , circisians , westerners and some Christian Turkish minorities from Turkey 😉
@@Pavlos_Charalambous ah perfect! Appreciate the correction, it's extremely important to me and academia in general to get the info correct, so thank you!
@@wildmanhistory it's a detail that people often forget because the refugees in general adopted the nationalism of each host nation , for the Greek case those who wasn't Greeks was merged into to the Greek refugee populations and the local one creating in many ways a new culture in the areas that was settled 😉
An other detail of the agreement was that the populations of Eastern Thrace and Instabul was to not to be exchanged , although how that worked out is a different story..
Thank you for your informative posting. Please support Remembrance 2025, Armenian Holocaust, 110 Years at the federally funded US Holocaust Museum in DC by requesting this exhibit.
My very first boss when I was 14 in 1994 was an elderly Armenian man. He told me he was given the name the Puma when he was in the Armenian military. What I wouldn't do to ask him questions about this and his life because it's very clear to me now that he had to have lived through this 😢 as a child. He was a sweet Wonderful man who looked like he had seen some shit for sure.
Thank you 🙏 for this video. Most of my own grandfather’s family was murdered in the 1915 genocide. He and his only surviving brother were hidden away. At 2-3 years old they were orphaned and had lost their identities. As a result, I don’t have a real last name. My father and his siblings grew up with made up names. Genocide cut out their roots! Armenians if revolted it was due to for our own native lands and the lies and oppressive conditions by the Sultan and the Young Turks. They ultimately broke trust between our people.
God bless you and your grandfather. Your grandfather's family are matyrs who are in heaven if they were Christians 🙏
@@Itsover..866 Thank you so much! Yes, we’re Christians. 🙏
Didn't any Armenians kill Turks then?
Armenians broke the trust first by killing the turks in the lands that russian empire gained throughout the war. I dont defend what happend but you cant just talk about this without mentioning the turks that were killed by armenians
When Hitler invaded Poland on Sept 1st, 1939 had a meeting 2 weeks before this event, on Sept 20th during this event he pointed out that his SS Troops had been given orders to Kill every Man, Woman, and Child of Polish Blood. He made a statement "Who Remembers The Armenians?"
or Herero for that regard and good measure...
What you have written is not based on any genuine evidence.
What you are referring to is a document that purports to be the record of an address made by Hitler to his military leaders shortly before the invasion of Poland in 1939. The address was made on 22 August 1939, and we know what Hitler said because a number of those present made notes that have been preserved. In none of those preserved notes does Hitler make any reference whatever to the Armenians.
Furthermore, in that address, Hitler made no reference to the Jews either. The purpose of his address was to tell the military leaders what he saw as the essential aim of the invasion, which was to destroy the military power of Poland.
What you are thinking of is a falsified version of what Hitler said at the meeting, a version that was handed over to the British Government during the war by an American journalist, Louis Lochner, and published by the British as wartime propaganda. From 1924 to 1942, Lochner was head of the Berlin Bureau of the Associated Press, and he reported on the German invasion of Poland. After Germany declared war on the United states he was interned, but was released in 1942. After the war, he presented a document to the International Military Tribunal containing his version of Hitler’s address of 22 August 1939, but it was rejected as not genuine; because its origin could not be verified. Lochner was not able to say how he got the document he was holding.
Two genuine records of Hitler’s address were found at the end of the war among seized German documents, and these were used as evidence. Neither of those documents contains any reference to the Armenians. The claimed reference to the Armenians occurs only in the falsified version held by Lochner.
Historians think that Lochner obtained at Transcript of Hitler’s address from one of the participants at the meeting, most probably Canaris, and rewrote it to make it more brutal. For example, in the genuine versions of Hitler’s speech, he says that the aim is to destroy the enemy forces; in Lochner’s version, those words are falsified to be an order to kill all Poles, men, women and children, without pity.
You can read a translation of the genuine version of Hitler’s speech here: reader.library.cornell.edu/docviewer/digital?id=nur%3A00458#mode%2F1up
If you can read German, you could have a look at this official version of Hitler’s speech, contained in the official war diary kept by Halder.www.ns-archiv.de/krieg/1939/22-08-1939-halder.php
The part falsified by Lochner is this one:
II.) Forderungen des Führers an die militärischen Führer.
@@DevletGM Good job.
@@DevletGM I concede that the veracity of the quote is dubious but this reeks of Turkish denialism
@@DevletGM I am Turkish and welcome to "our side". Since you did excellent and non-biased work and proved Hitler didnt say such thing, even you believe Armenian relocation was genocide, everyone will still hate you and blame you of being Turkish.
Lately I've seen comments about how accepting the ottomans were and how they allowed Christians and Jews to practice their faith freely and safely. But i never get a reply when i comment "what about the Armenian Genocide". In their position I'd stfu too.
Even fewer remember that the Turks also did this to Assyrian and Greek christians.
I got blocked because I spoke about the Armenian genocide on instagram
Nothing unusual.. still better than being attacked by Turkish fascist and having approximately a thousand Turkish flags under every comment
As an Armenian and a long time fan of all your channels (even before becoming an OGBB), I really appreciate this episode and you using your platform and your voice to talk about an issue that's not talked about as much as it should be with a lot of fabrication and falsification that comes from the side of the perpetrator. Thank you for making it a point to mention the "memorial" in Turkey that solidifies the aforementioned falsification as well. Great summary, suits the high standard you've taught fans of your channels to come to expect.
It never happened. They were casualties of war like many people of different nationalities during WW1. Armenians chose to be allies with enemies of Ottomans hence why Ottomans responded against the enemy during a time when Armenians were sabotaging for the British Empire. It is just another fraud to get reparations at UN just like their fraud schemes in the US. If not, other nationalities fared much worse during WW1 than Armenians.
@@jacqueslee2592 Thank you for proving my point regarding falsification. I appreciate your contribution to the cause, together we'll get the genocide recognized and the souls of the innocent will finally be able to rest in peace.
4 weeks ago I made a comment on your channel asking to cover this, and I just see this video. Not sure if my comment had any effect or not, but as an Armenian subscriber thank you Simon for covering this.
Oooooooh dude erdogan is gonna be PISSED about this one.
yep lol
As a descendant of the Anatolian’s from Asia Minor I’m glad that this tragedy was featured on your channel Simon.
@@muhan6831 go spread your lies elsewhere
I've been kind of stuck reading up on the Circassian Genocide as well in the latter half of the 19th Century. All part of Imperial Russia's expansion into the Caucus Region.
Yes, the brutality of the Russian Empire in the Caucasus should be covered here someday.
Whenever Russians bring up the Native American Genocide to criticize America, I always respond with the Circassian Genocide.
In 2016 the current President of Turkey, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, declared that his country will never accept what happened to the Armenians as genocide. Members of the german parliament from turkish descendence who voted for a declaration that said exactly this were designated by him as terrorists and traitors and he recommended their blood to be examined because they can not truly belong to the turkish people. I have no clue what to say about that but I think they are truly courageous and as they all have German citizenship I am delighted to call them compatriots.
„The Herero Genocide“ would be a good topic for another great videos on this channel, btw.
Driving into SF there was always a banner on Treasure Island midway through the Bay Bridge that said "RECOGNIZE THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE." Was always very powerful.
I think when people think genocide, it has to correlate to the holocaust and gaza.
I can't hear, read, or learn anything about the Armenian Genocide without being reminded of the song P.L.U.C.K by System of a Down, its actually quite a lyrically powerful song
I hear Holy Mountains, the song is haunting and what prompted me to learn more.
Holy Mountains got me wondering when I was a kid.
My great grandma was an Armenian born in turkey in 1906. Thank you. The fact that so many people don't acknowledge that this happened (and that so many Americans don't even know what Armenia is) blows my mind. It's offensive how much this is swept under the rug
Yes, please support Remembrance 2025, Armenian Holocaust, 110 Years at the federally funded US Holocaust Museum in DC by contacting them.
Armeninans commited the circassian genocide with the russians
@@Hasanbas-rv3vm no
@@kristaporkhach yes dont deny it
Scrolled down for angry Turks. Seems like I was here too early... Damn being home on sick leave
Hope you recover soon!
@@terryenby2304 Thanks man! I'm almost back in force already
I'm sure the Turks in the comment section will be nothing but civil /s
Simon thank you so much, for covering such an important historical event. Suggestion for another video: "the years of lead" in Italy. I recently found out about it (I was born in the 90s) and I find it very interesting, as I bet many of your other viewers would as well.
Thank you for this video. My grandfather and his family had to escape from Armenia to Cyprus.
Mine ran to Syria and the states
You can spot all the genocide deniers when you sort the comments by new
yup
Yup
Reported them all.
Bustin' makes me feel good!
@@Eunacissnitch
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Parts of Armenia were kept being chipped away, latest last summer by Azerbaijan. And those left behind in those territories were always forced to move, sooner or later, leaving their ancestral lands.
Also can't not leave without mentioning that Israel does not recognize the Armenian genocide, despite to the connections to their own. And even more, they were continuing to supply Azerbaijan during this latest war.
Really want that Armenia grossly overstated its own and understated the military strength of Azerbaijan, leading to a military debacle on there said, all this by the way has nothing to do with the genocide
@@mkoschier Guessing English is not a language you know well, considering how little sense you made with that comment, but assuming you meant to say that during the latest Azerbaijan-Armenian war, then there was some ethnic cleansing during and after that war by Azerbaijani troops, yet not exactly on genocidal scale (that event alone). Nor I stated that. What I did say was that Armenians are continuously being pushed out of their native lands. Which also happened during/after that war.
@@IlmarKiisk why don’t you mention ethnic cleansing of Azeris in the 90s by Armenians in Nagorno Kharabagh? You conveniently left that part out.
@@IlmarKiisk I laughed a lot against your fake comment
Azerbaijani soldiers did nothing there, they just prepared a link for Karabakh
While saying this, the Turkish section living there and the border villages raided and killed the Turks.
and deliberate artillery. causing 100 deaths in cities
Why did you ignore Armenia?
Or do you know that in the 90s, with the help of the new Russian government, thousands of people were killed and children were skinned?
The Armenian Genocide never fully ended, it is still ongoing. A genocide denied is a genocide continued.
A very tragic story😶. One thing is for sure - Turkey will never officially recognise it. The incompetent Enver Pasha had to try find a way to cover his ass for the disastrous loss at Sarikamish, and he latched onto the Armenian angle. What a coward…
Amen
Bruh don’t talk enver pasha did nothing wrong there is no genoicide cry
@@Emir0709 bunlar ya tarihten bi haner yada tarihi işlerine geldiği gibi okuyo
Enver Pasha should be declared a war criminal.
@@brkdgn2634 git taner akcam kitapı oku, kanıtı o buldu, talat paşanın kendi yazısıyla.
Mad respect for covering this tragic time in history. Thank you
Thank you, friend. I'm an American Armenian, and I appreciate your digging into the history.
Well, if Simon goes on holiday to Turkey and is never seen again..... we know why.
LOL
Thank you for this stupid comment I accept this genocide
also the government just denies it don't worry they won't kill you for it
1:20 - Chapter 1 - Armenians
2:50 - Chapter 2 - The hamidian massacres
5:20 - Chapter 3 - The turn of the century
7:30 - Chapter 4 - WWI
9:35 - Chapter 5 - Deportation begins
11:45 - Chapter 6 - The death marches
14:15 - Chapter 7 - The 1st republic of armenia
15:10 - Chapter 8 - Genocide
- Chapter 9 -
- Chapter 10 -
This will be a personal one to me; some of my ancestors sought refuge here in England at the time, and we may well have been directly affected by the genocide. Some of us were Armenians, the rest Palestinians - as for those who were connected to both sides, and had to endure both this and the Nakba of 1948, I have no idea how they must have felt. I hope I never have to find out for myself what that is like.
@@user-rw5cx1uh4i "my genocide is better than yours!" You share more with the arabs than any of the victims
@@user-rw5cx1uh4i
Look up the Zionist
Lehi Nazi collaborators
@@user-rw5cx1uh4i
in your region Syria
Lebanon and Cyprus only
@@user-rw5cx1uh4i Look up the Deir Yassin Massacre of 1948
One of the most heartbreaking things about the Armenian Genocide is that to this day, Turkey refuses to acknowledge it as such.
to regard a war as genocide is a western thing.
Maybe the Turks want what happened to them recognized first.
In the Balkans for example.
(1912-1914)
Do you find that "heartbreaking" as well?
Or when it's the Turks you don't care?
Or... Did you even ever hear of it?
5 million Turks living in the Balkans.
3 million killed by the Christians.
The remaining 2 million civilians deported.
@@James-rf1wn They do this in Syria, there is war in Ukraine, there is war in the Middle East, millions of estimated 10 million refugees come to my country, some of them are shot while trying to escape to Greece. they don't care, a couple of children with blond hair are crying, they are doing their best, then after a war the Turks deport the Armenians, the Armenians are starving, they say genocide but they comment. Ignoring that the Anatolian people are hungry, have maggots in their stomachs and are about to die of hunger, these events bring Turkey closer to the east. But you are right
If Turkey does what Germany did that’s recognizing and apologizing for the Holocaust. Turkey would have so much to return. To Armenians, Greeks, Kurds, Assyrians. There would be no Turkey left
Why should Türkiye admit a lie? Is there any court decision about genocide existence?
UK and USA tried hard to find evidence in Malta island and they could not find any. They even confess that there is no hope to find any evidence of genocide.
@@ozlemozturk6763The only one lying is you
A country built on lies. Even now they are stealing more lands.
@@ozlemozturk6763 deny deny deny lol your whole identity is a copy and a lie my
Mongol friend lol
the genocide was never finished still goin on to this day sadly
Indeed…
I read The Gendarme years ago and was shocked that we didn't know more about this. It's a wonderful book and I highly recommend it to anyone.
Thanks for covering.
Thank You Simon and crew for speaking out.
It makes me sick that the Armenian Genocide is not more covered and known. So many innocent people murdered. Also an attack against Christian people.
One correction: while the term genocide has been most connected to the Holocaust and thus systematic mass murder (Raphael Lemkin being Jewish himself) he believed the creation of the term necessary not because of the many mass killings in the 20th C per se but because of what some of them were meant to do: destroy a people. And he made clear in his writings that while in many cases this of course has included the killing of individuals as part of a larger whole, this is almost always accompanied by other methods and genocide could occur without that. The important factor is not the death count, though those alone are tragedies of the highest order, but the attempt to destroy a people as a whole with their language, customs, works, and “soul”, which can occur in any number of ways-many of which were deliberately omitted when it was crafted into international law by nations uncomfortable with their own pasts and presents. In his 1953 speech on the Holodomor as part of a wider Ukrainian genocide he even states that if a genocide were carried out without any individual suffering we would be required to condemn it as among the worst of crimes. The primary focus on death makes sense, but it’s also something deniers of nearly every genocide seize on to create false doubt. The other aspect deniers focus on that Lemkin made clear in his writings was that intent in genocide can be read by behaviours, it need not be found as an explicit order in writing. It’s unfortunate that his works and words are rarely read or even mentioned in most history classes that cover genocides, even at university level.
The exodus of Jews from Arab/Muslim countries that took place during and after the creation of the State of Israel in 1948 can be considered a "genocide" of sorts, even if only a few here and there in those lands were actually killed. It was no less than a cultural genocide and it was every bit as catastrophic for them as the Holocaust was for European Jews, the Ottoman-orchestrated genocide was for Armenians and other Christians, etc., but it's far less discussed than certainly the Holocaust and even the Armenian Genocide.
Under this definition, the othering of a certain group/sex of people in developed nations would fit. As the Journal of the American Psychoanalytic Association put it: "x"-ness is a disease. Coca-Cola has training telling their employees to "be less X". The Salvation Army has "apologized for our X-ness". Academia refuses to allow these people to become professors without jumping through hoops, and large corporations (Hollywood, Amazon) are literally rewriting their historical figures by substituting them with other ethnicities. The Associated Press has issued writing guidelines to refer to these people with a lower case while referring to all other groups with capitalization. To bring this up however will see myriad "ism" pejoratives hurled at you.
@@yodorob Yes and so can what China has been doing to Tibet. Sure, there might not have been significant numbers of deaths and violence, but the Tibetan culture was being eradicated through a variety of measures.
Shame that the genocide against Hawaiians was never acknowledged
@@wezzuh2482 Uyghurs as well comes to mind, China is very explicit about its intentions of erasing their cultural identity and religion.
Other examples of cultural Genocides are most notable for examples like West Papua, Native Americans and Indigenous Australians.
Thank you Simon and your team. This was something I had only the faintest of knowledge about, other than it happened but had gone largely overlooked and was something I kept meaning to learn more about. I had absolutely underestimated the extent of this horror.
Very detailed and through. Subscribed, sir. Thank you for this
Doesn’t get mentioned a lot because people are too afraid of “offending” Muslims nowadays
No. Not really, it's just a topic that isn't talked about much.
I love the way he just stands up and walks off after these darker videos, correctly demonstrating there's nothing else to say.
i love the new ending, it gives a better "umph" to the videos point.
the Pontic Greeks also suffered around 200K deaths from the Turks
Pontic greeks will never die in our hearts 💛😔 🇬🇷 🦅
Thank you for covering this, Simon
Well said! Spread the truth. Expose the Turkish lies.
@whataboutism5439Gecmis olsun😂😂😂
You have been banned from Turkey.
Oh darn. Guess he'll have to visit any number of other countries that aren't run by egomaniacal rectal jesters. Oh, wait...
@@D_3_3 Turkey is one of the most beautiful countries in the world. That sounds like cope.
@Daco-Rus Gay
You won't get banned because you believe the genocide is real. Stop propaganda. There are people in Turkey who believe it's a genocide
@@attilamert6973Turkey= Greece+Western Armenia+Cilicia. If it was not for the Soviet Union that literally saved Turkey it wouldn't have existed.
There is nothing contencious about it. the Ottomans murdered millions wether the turks like it or not
Yes man. I mean, that's basic logic. You don't have an Empire by being pacifist, right? haha.
Probably your nation also murdered so many people in the past. There is no escape from it.
When Europe do it its wrong but when ottoman its right???
@@stevenpatrick3934 when Europe do it its wrong but when ottoman do it its wrong?
Thank you for this.
My childhood friend's grandmother survived the genocide and flew to my country to be safe. Her Armenian relatives told her they would send her a picture. If they were up, it meant it was safe to come back. If they were sitting down, it would mean the situation was terrible and she should stay there for her own safety. She received the picture where they were laying on the ground. The situation was horrible for Armenians. I'll always remember this story. Many Armenians took refuge in my country in that city and I still can't believe people and government would go to such effort to lie and be in denial and protect their ego and History like that.
Did any of the relatives make it out alive?
@@thechosenone1533 Possibly. The mother of my friend went back to Armenia some years ago and managed to find some friends and members of her mother all these years ago.
Great video. I'm from Uruguay, the first country to recognize the genocide, for that i knew of it but not that much. greets and keep the great work
so uruguay is $$hit country it seems.
Accepting one sided story is fair what do you think?
Do you heard armenian tashnak hincak gangs? What they did in anatolia with help from russia and west?
While Turks are under attack from western coalition armenian and greeks from inside attacked Turks for destroy whole Turks
This was real genocide attempt we defend ourselves. Yall tried real genocide against Turks but its failed.
West hates Turks because we doesnt fit to their agenda because always Turks stand up against them for a thousand year
even Turks fought back agains crusader all the time so ı understand this pain from this west.
Armenians arent saint or innocent. They tried build greater armenia with western support and promises but we didnt let them.
Westerners are biased people mind with their one sided stories.
Westerners and russians provoked armenians against Turks this two sided war not genocide was your fault.
While ottomans collapse with promises from armenians see this as a opportunity for create greater armenia
and they start killing Turks
Armenians killing villagers and attack Turks joining invading forces but Turks shouldnt protect themselves?
Arslan Yabgu here we go again...
Well done Simon. I like everything you do and this one is close to my heart. Fourth generation living in Ethiopia.
I stand in solidarity with everyone that was murdered during the genocide, and the survivors, and their descendants.
Look at a population distribution heat map of Armenians, Pontic Greeks and Assyrians around end of the 19th century and then compare with today. Obviously something happened to them.
Look at the demographics in Greece and Armenia of Turkish populations and compare them with today, big big difference. Just for your information during the 1990´s Karabakh war around a million azerbaijani turks were cleansed of their home, this wasn´t the first time either. Yerevan was majority Azerbaijani at the start of the 1900´s
@@adidoki At no point in history there were million people in Karabakh, let alone million Azeris. At most there were 600K Azeris and Kurds combined. Also the same can be said about 500K Armenians in Azerbaijan who got brutally pogromed by Azeri/Turkish nationalists Before the war even started. For example, Baku used to be 40% Armenian by the end of 1900s. I'm not even gonna mention that cities, such as Khojalu, Shushi, Jebrail, etc. were majority Armenian until they were deported or massacred by invading hoards and Persian shahs.
@@adidoki The majority of the population living in Artsakh/Karabagh were Armenians that is 90% of the population... The Azeris were mostly living in Susha/shushi and Agdam ... The hundreds of thousands of Azeris exiled were from Soviet Armenia during the Karabagh war , The same thing happened to Armenians living Soviet Azerbaijan ...
@@adidoki The majority of the population living in Artsakh/Karabakh were Armenians that is 90% of the population... The Azeris were mostly living in Susha/Sushi and Aghdam. The hundreds of thousands of Azeris exiled you talk about were from Soviet Armenia during the Karabakh war , The same thing happened to Armenians living Soviet Azerbaijan .
@@adidoki The majority of the population living in Artsakh/Karabagh were Armenians that is 90% of the population... The Azeris were mostly living in Susha/Sushi and Aghdam ... The hundreds of thousands of Azeris exiled you talk about were from Soviet Armenia during the Karabagh war , The same thing happened to Armenians living Soviet Azerbaijan ...
People must speak more about this genocide. It is so bitter that main streams keep quiet about it.
You make some of the best content on UA-cam, thank you for years of entertainment.
Hey Simon, you should think about opening the subtitles, so we can add them. I'd love to share the videos with people who cannot follow spoken english all that well and there are a number of channels who have been succesfully doing it. Even an official english subtitle helps a lot.
Your audacity is indeed impressive. Well done Simon and the whole team of the channel. As a descedant of Asia Minor Greeks I can understand what you are talking about. Well done
Anadolu'da öldürdüğünüz insanlar daha iyi anlıyor.
As an Armenian going to school in Los Angeles I would be so confused why they talked so much about the Holocaust but only had a small paragraph about the Armenian genocide. As I got older I realized the textbooks we've been reading in schools have all been funded by Turkish interest groups in the United States to spread their own propaganda....this taught me at an early stage to question everything historical and to always look at both sides...a famous quote can't remember who said it said...."history is written by the victors."
I had always thought it was because Simon and Schuster were Jewish, so they delve more into the Holocaust, but you've got a point that it seems all of the history textbooks are like that.
If you haven't already done it, would you do the Trail of Tears please?
I am not an Armenian but I strongly believe that this needs to be talked about. No more denying.
According and Cenk Uygur and Democrats this never happen and everything he's saying is a lie. But then again Democrats are trying to rewrite history all together.
@@itsmaam742 Stop being easily duped(I know that's *_EXTREMELY_* hard for you to do by your (mis)information, propaganda mouth piece that you call (faux) "news"🤦♂️🤣😂
@@jonhall2274 Yet you refute no claims, you just resort to the Leftist methodology of insulting people, and indirectly bringing up your Great Satan, Rupert Murdoch. Cenk is well known as a hard-Left shill, even outside the US.
@@itsmaam742 you're wrong, everyone knows that it happened. All of the people at TYT have admitted it happened. You should read newer articles. Positive vibes from New Hampshire, remember to be kind to each other and yourself during this pandemic and social crisis
@@itsmaam742 is a genocide denier. He's not worth reasoning with
I would love to see you do this on one of your larger channels.
Greetings from Armenia. Thank you so much for creating this.
As a result of the genocide there were many who hid in plain sight. Entire Armenian towns overnight became Turkish or Kurdish towns as the population masked being Armenian. Many to this day are still that way but some have openly professed being Armenian.
The same goes for a number of minorities, in present day Turkey. It has been going on for hundreds of years, this adoption of Turkish names/surnames and cultural norms in order to avoid persecution. Understandable, really. None could judge these people, having witnessed what they have ..
@@georgezachos7322 exactly. My maternal grandfather’s family came from Smyrna. Present day Izmir. They left in 1909, though, after having lost most of the family, all of the men, leaving only 2 members alive after an execution on their farm. They successfully escaped to a French vessel. I have heard of some neighbors feigning being Turkish though.
My broher in law (Allah rest his soul) came from a Kurdish majority province in South Eastern Turkey, he told me a story bout a man who said he's also "Kurdish" but once he mentioned the village, he told him he's actually Armenian. The man wouldn't believe it untill he talked to his parents.
@@hakanozaslan9571 so sorry for your loss. I feel like that’s so common in those kinds of villages especially in eastern Turkey.
@@anonymoose9315 let's say it's more Common than ppl think. I think the Armenian Patriarch of Istanbul once alleged that the province of Tunceli( Dersim, as called by its Zaza majority) is like 70% Armenian, live on Turkish TV.
There are many Turkish ppl like me who know the facts, especially when Our elders were talking about it behind closed doors. But as you may know, Turkey is a fiercely divided country. It makes it difficult to talk about it, even if you live in the overseas communities in Europe.
Fantastic video, thank you for doing this.
How many channels does he have again?
Seriously. No one takes Turkey's denial counter seriously, since even when Turks discuss the genocide, they call them traitors or hidden Armenians. So it would be redundant--no matter the evidence, even if Talaat was resurrected and admitted he planned the extermination, racist Turks would call him Armenian at that point. Telling, that the Turkish nation uses an ethnicity as an insult. You can Google Turkish officials suing for slander when it is implied they have Armenian heritage. There used to be a law for insulting “Turkishness” for just saying the word genocide.
If you want information, besides the International Association of Genocide Scholars that calls this a genocide, I'll name a few to answer all of your points.
Turkish historians who have recognized the Armenian Genocide. It includes Halil Berktay , Taner Akçam , Murat Belge, Ahmet Insel , Bulent Peker , Salim Deringil, Ali Ertem, Fatma Muge Gocek , Koray Caliskan.
A small portion of Non-Armenian scholars Roger W. Smith (College of William & Mary; President of AGS); Israel Charny (Hebrew University, Jerusalem); Helen Fein (Past President AGS); Frank Chalk (Concordia University, Montreal); Ben Kiernan (Yale University); Anthony Oberschall (University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill); Mark Levene (Warwick University, UK); Rhoda Howard (McMaster University, Canada), Michael Freeman (Essex University, UK), Gunnar Heinsohn (Bremen University, Germany)
Kurds even are apologizing for their role to this day. And Turkish historians also made the “I apologize” movement. Is everyone in the world a liar?
Turkey still honors the leaders who organized the murders of millions in total civilians--and tortured millions of non-combatants. Greeks, Assyrians, the Balkans, Armenians, and Arabs all know this to be true. Don't you remember one of the three Pashas said he'd do to Lebanese by hunger as he did to Armenians by sword? 200,000 Lebanese starved to death as Turkey blockaded food from the region during a famine, and confiscated our stored grains. Turkey is the America of the Middle East (in regards to Native Americans)--killing indigenous for land or resources everywhere they tread. Except at least America owns up to some of her crimes--Japnese internment camps America herself called unjustifiable war crimes and apologizes almost every year for the anniversary. Even presidents apologize for Hiroshima and Nagasaki because despite it being war, nuclear weapons were not justifiable for what happened to civilians. And America teaches the massacres of natives in books--I think it needs to be more extensive--but they aren't so shame faced or two faced to deny what they have done. Turks justify every single one of their crimes against humanity, because their government does not recognize humanity.
Genocide supporters (trying to justify the genocide crimes) sound like Hutus who deny the Rwandan Genocide, Indonesians who deny East Timor Genocide, and Russians who deny the Circassian or Holodomor Genocide, and Holocaust deniers, who say a) don't trust the victim group b) numbers wete exaggerated and c) only the country who did the genocide knows the "true" history while d) discounting international accountant photographs and evidence as some blind conspiracy, and e) blaming the victims for starting the conflict. You all use the same flawed arguments almost word for word. Your evil is not very creative, because there are too many facts to hide. And most genocides occur during war. That's how the Holocaust, Circassian, East Timor, and Bangladesh Genocide are excused by denialists who are trying to justify their hatred.
Turks today are not their grandparents who performed genocide, so their sins aren't for this generation, but the Orwellian styled denial of the genocide makes that country appear to be full of obnoxious vulgar chauvinistic egotistical cretins. I would expect Turkey wishes to move away from such an image.
One of these countries
(Turkey or Armenia)
Wants an international tribunal about these events.
One of these countries
(Turkey or Armenia)
Doesn't want an international tribunal about these events.
Could you answer me which is which and why?
We need first hand evidence for genocides. Not anectodal like "oo my grandpa said they killed everyone they killed everyone😢😢😢" or documents created after years have passed or a fucking movie done by lobbyists after 10 years
@@James-rf1wn Because Turkey again, refuses to accept facts. It's the same reason why no one seriously debates flat earthers in the scientific community.
@@James-rf1wnArmenia wants (to finally heal wounds,and get reparations), Turkey don't wants (because it fears that it's lies would be exposed, and because it would be forced to pay reparations and to return occupied lands)!!! ♥️💙🧡
@@James-rf1wn Because Turkey already uses its cognitive dissonance. It would be as useless as discussing with a flat earther all the evidence that the Earth is spherical, and the flat earther would decry everything as a conspiracy. That is the level of intellectual dishonesty of Turkey.
Thank you so much for calling it what it is - genocide.
It's getting harder and harder to find channels on youtube that AREN'T hosted by simon
Thank you for posting this. It heals us with every voice heard.
You should do trail of tears on this Channel. It is a perfect fit.