Operation Nemesis: Hunting Those Responsible for the Armenian Genocide
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2022
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How can Turkey and Armenia even begin the process of reconciliation if Turkey doesn't admit to having done the thing they're reconciling for?
Turks didn’t do anything
@@mussyeg Turkey didn't exist until 1923, so no Turk did anything before that. Can obfuscate all you like.
@@mussyeg I like to death march women and children traitors, too!!
How can turkey 🇹🇷 still deny what they did
@@mussyeg your a 🛎 end
Enver Pasha died in 1922 by the hands of a Armenian Soviet officer and his squad. Which is also poetic.
Probably could’ve avoided his death had he not betrayed Lenin
Enver Pasha had many times before 1922 faked his death. It is very possible that Enver faked his 1922 death, which was not carried out by Operation Nemesis, in order to fall off the Nemesis radar. There are numerous news paper reports of Enver sighting after 1922, including a visit in 1927 to the leadership of Iran.
in the romantic version, in the more realistic version he got machine gunned down. both are possible but Melkumov didnt claim he killed in him in his memoirs wich i think would be a great detail to leave out.
@@jahmive Hes army killed Enver
@@user-ju8ml2ry8w yes
As an Armenian I feel it’s important to note that Armenians were not the only target of the genocide. Pontic Greeks, Assyrians, and the Yazidis were also targeted.
The vast majority were Armenians, Assyrians were even given status to stay in turkey, go look it up. Greeks and Armenians were the main targets.
It should say Greeks rather than Pontic Greeks.
Actually we got arabs, kurds to some extend and turks who refused conscription. Seems like ottoman regime at that time was a proto fascist nation, one in comparison ti nazia
@@antonbeats9777 Where is the scholarship on this? Given the fact that between 250,000 - 500,000 Assyrians were killed between 1915 and 1923 it would seem they had the same status as the Greeks and Armenians.
@@jerometurner8759 Anatolian Greeks, which would include the Pontic Greeks as well.
My Grandfather died , in a death march in Syria he was Greek
The Armenians took revenge and for him
So there is no genocide if armenians took revenge
@@epicgammerboy2104 are you kidding? reaching to people's psychology the idea of revenge can be in normal circumstances? The Genocide has nothing to do with the fact of revenge.. it is an act of forced assimilation, for termination of religious, ethnic and other social group. What the hell is wrong with you? At least now that you didn't do anything you could just not get into it by denying it ... At least have faith damn! The evidences thank God are spread around the world... where the fuck did the whole 3mln Armenian population disappeared then after 1897-1915 and 1923? The same Turkey did in 44-day Artsakh-Azerbaijani war by supporting terrorist country
THIS IS A VIDEO OF ARMENIAN PROPAGANDA… THE REAL PERPETRATORS OF THE GENOCIDE OF TURKISH & KURDS PEOPLE UNDER THE RUSSIAN OCCUPATION OF EASTERN ANATOLIA
Stop talking bull S H IT .., THEY WERE NO GREEKS IN THOSE REGION SINCE MANY CENTURIES …. IT’S TOO COLD 🥶 FOR A GREEK TO SURVIVE IN THOSE COLD HIGH LANDS OF EASTERN ANATOLIA
@@epicgammerboy2104 Do you hear yourself? No Genocide, are you stupid or high? The Armenians Taking revenge was a understandable reaction to what the ottomans did.
I had a teacher in grade school whose family fled this and that’s why she became a teacher, it was math class but she strived to teach us kindness, acceptance, and understanding of differences because her family legacy was a “result of what could happen if that was not the norm.” To this day, she’s one of the most important people I’ve learned from. Thanks Miss A and thanks for covering this.
I had a teacher when I was a student at 4th grade. His name was Kemal Shahin, his grand father and his other relatives escaped to the Western Anatolia from the Eastern Anatolia. Because Armenian gangs were murdering all non-Armenian civilians over there. They escaped and saved their lives. Came to the West. Then Ottoman Army gave an end to those ethnic cleansing attempts of the Armenian gangs. And forced their supporters to migrate southern lands of the Ottoman Empire. And now, the Armenians call this as genocide. And I suggest you to read unbiased real history books. You will see that those sources and numbers which are used by the Armenian diaspora is all biased, mostly fake. Armenians do not accept to use real historic documents to dissolve the issue of "Armenian genocide". They always use biased books as sources. Believe me Armenians suffered but they made Muslims suffer more. Because of it , Christian nations of the World support Armenians on this issue. Just like they support the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria etc. ...
@@TheNera2010 another brainwashed Turk. Haven't you stopped to think for one second why it is that the rest of the world accepts one story but only Turkey and Azerbaijan accept a completely different one??
@@harouttorkomian5897 Rest of the world didn't live there. They beliee in what has been told to them. They are not reading real documents. The world is west centric now. And who was the West's common enemy between 14th and the 20th century ? Even the rebirth of the Armenia is a creation of the hostility of the West against the Turks. Armenians are even today fleeing to the West.
@@TheNera2010 The father of my grandmother was an Armenian policeman for the Ottomans. At the beginning of the massacre, he tried to stop three Turkish men from raping an Armenian woman. They disemboweled him, then laughed and let him go. He made it home to his family before he died. My grandfather wasn't so lucky. Both his parents were killed, and so he had to cross the Syrian desert with his elder brother and sister to escape the Turks. He was 4 years old at the time, and had his fifth birthday on the run, starving. By the time he got to Beirut he was starving too death, so his siblings left him to die in search of food. Luckily he was picked up by an orphanage and survived.
I don't expect my grandparents were lying about all this, nor the whole Armenian community who have similar stories. They sell picture books with photographs of these atrocities at the Armenian church bazaar every year. As to the honesty of the Turks, that's another matter entirely; meanwhile they're still proudly killing Armenians to this very day. It doesn't sound all that "reconciliatory" to me.
@@DrCruel these stories you told are not denied all, by the Turks. We know that things like that happened because it was a very big, long war time. The problem is you ignore the doings of your people and exaggerate and distort the bad things happened to your people. Armenians tried to do same things like they did together with the Russian army before. They tried to wipe out the Muslim majority. You are like a German who is talking about WW2 like they were the victims of it. Of course millions of Germans were killed, thousands of German women were raped etc. But they had started the war in the first place. And of course during the WW1 lots of Armenian people were killed and banished. But it happened because they tried to wipe out the Muslim majority. Ottomans didn't kill millions of Armenians. They banished hundred thousands but to the southern lands of the Ottoman Empire not out of the country. There are hundred thousands of Armenians today in Turkey today and at least 15.000 of them are the citizens of Armenia who are illegal migrants in Turkey. There were tens of thousands of Turks living in the lands of the modern Armenia before the establishment of it, today lives none. Even this is enough to understand the truth.
As a quarter Armenian, I thank you for covering this. My Armenian great grandmother was a part of a large family in Izmir (Smyrna), she and her sister were the only survivors. They fled with their babysitter via A French ship. One stayed in France and one fled to America.
Not true.
@@salamov963 1.5m dead. It is true
@@tiii4017 armenian population is fucking 2million small. If 1.5 million of them died then why now armenia exists
I’m also one quarter Armenian my grandparents family ran away from Armenia to save themselves and moved to Russia my mother and father later moved to America after the collapse of the soviet union
@@salamov963 Obvious troll account is obvious. This person has no true opinions and just wants to be an ass. Any inflammatory response on his end is proof. Just ignore him.
Simon as a long time fan and full blooded Armenian Thankyou so much , I love Aper(brother), for the multiple vids you’ve made on our struggle. My ppl are going through a lot rn as I’m sure you’ve seen in the news. Thankyou you for spreading awareness 🔥❤️🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲
Keep fighting that good fight, bruh.
Blessings for you all.
As a turk i can only say i am sorry for what happend. Let's hope our people can work things out for the future...
@@Darth-Claw-Killflex shut up
@@lucionius4225 Dont think Armenians hate all Turks just the ones that deny and say they will do it again. Also get a dna check there is a 80-90% chance you have Greek or Armenian DNA
Nemesis is so often overlooked despite being an incredible story, worthy of a A-list movie. Eternal glory to the assassins.
And as a British Armenian, I appreciate the callout at the end! Good man.
No reconciliation without the recognition.
This would make a good movie. Someone know the director of inglorious bastards?
@@breadman32398 Yeah sure lemme just call up on ol Quentin.
Do we really want to glorify assassins and vigilantes? I mean we already do... fictional ones. But doing it with real life story would take a little bit different angle. How many people may get inspired of taking justice in their own hands? More importantly do we really want them to?
@@PetrSojnek in the absence of government, sure.
Seeing Simon actively upset by this hits hard. Even when he dislikes something in other videos it's always with a bit of a laugh at the absurdity... but not here.
The men of Operation Nemesis are war heroes in a war they never got to fight. Constantinople lives on.
Indeed.
Yes! Very true!
Constantinople lives on !
Just like Babylon !
Recognize the Babylonian genocide, turkey eradicated 64 million Babylonians !
Long live johns dreams of constantinople! And long live the reality of turkey and istanbul! War of liberation and Atatürk! History is written with blood not with tears!
"war heroes"
You mean cowards who shot people from their back and didn't accomplish anything?
"The dream of constantinople lives on" you dont really care about armenians do you LARPer?
As a Greek whose family was also targeted after living in that area for hundreds of years, thank you.
Most people don’t even know who Armenians are, let alone the other groups targeted by the Turks. If it is any consolation, myself and many Armenians are very vocal of the Pontic Greek genocide.
Really dude so what about Turkish people who live throught the balkans, greece etc? So people think that Turks killed every one but any one killed them dude? ( Also people think I am Turk but no I am Kurd )
@@ilkimerbudak5613 Enjoy being bombed by Turkey lol
@@ilkimerbudak5613 Also it was not their home in the first place
@@ilkimerbudak5613 It’s funny that you’re a Kurd! Are you sure you’re not a Turk? Kurdish people acknowledge they participated in some of the killings during the genocide. Many have apologized! As an Armenian we don’t blame the Kurdish people. It was the aKurdish tribesmen who did the massacres. But it was the Turks who planned it out and systematically massacred the Armenians. The Balkans had nothing to do with the Armenians. Armenians were citizens of the Ottoman Empire and ruled under the Turks.
Today, Turks are murdering Kurdish people in Syria and Iraqi-Kurdistan fir similar reasons as they murdered the Armenians. Turkey is the common enemy of the Armenians, Greeks, Kurds and Assyrians.
100 % justified. If someone killed a Nazi leader after the war no one would complain.
there's a movie about that. simon also covered preciously a story where they tried doing this via poisonous bread into prisons that held many Germans but it didn't really work
Also if anyone denies the holocaust, they are rightfully ostracized. Yet anyone denying the Armenian genocide is never questioned
well people complained when Israel nabbed Eichmann
@@420greatestqueen
All videos on UA-cam about the Armenian genocide mock the deniers, I don't get what you're saying.
@@Abby_Liu Youre thinking of Nakam
I'm no Armenian, but as an argentine citizen I have read and heard about the many casualties and dissapeareances our dictatorships have caused. So I'm sympathetic to the armenian cause. We've got a great armenian community here as well that came precisely because of this genocide. I'm terribly sorry for all of what you had to endure, lovely people who refuse to forget.
Bravo brother God bless
If you look at 20% of the history, then yes, genocide.
If you look at 50% of the history, things become very different.
If you look at 100% of the history,
You will feel ashamed and angry because you will realize......
That's for you to find out.
(If you care about the complete history)
God bless you man and congrats on winning the world cup! MESSI THE GREAT!
it is ironic when an argentinian talks about genocide, meanwhile how they embraced nazi commanders after ww2.
@@lifesource333
Christian brethren.
You know....
The religion of peace that spreads joy and democracy all over the world.
Those that hunted down and "took care" of those responsible for the Genocide are absolute legendary heroes. Just a shame that not every last individual involved from the top leadership positions to the very bottom soldiers following orders were let live.
It's also a complete lie by Turkey to say they want reconcilliation. They supress that the Genocide even happened.
Soghomon is a national by all Armenians around the world not only did he execute that scum but he put the world spotlight on it 🇦🇲⚔️💯👍👍
You’d think they’d stop tryna violate their minorities if they really cared about reconciliation but Alawites, Greeks and Kurds alike were and still are subject to this oppression.
It is absolutely appalling that we allow Turks to immigrate anywhere in Europe.
The murders were carried out by Rouge Ottoman officers during the down fall of the empire Against Ottoman Abdul Hamid , the Ottomans put the officers on trial and hung some of them
Turkey wants to supress its own citizens also: had you noticed?
I am not Armenian myself, but I am Pontic, and as such view people like the Armenians, Kurds, and Laz as my brethren. This video was incredibly well done, thank you.
Thank you for your support.
HAMIDIYE REGIMENTS WERE KURDS \SSSSS YOU FOOL
Alright I apologise that was rude, but nonetheless true.
I'll be honest I didn't know the Pontic people was still around but I knew about them from ancient times. Glad to hear it.
@@informitas0117 They aren't around anymore. He means he is a Pontic Greek, i.e a Greek from Trabzon.
Simon, congrats for your bold last statement. I am a Greek but also a quarter Armenian from Izmir (Smyrna) and I know how much the peoples of Armenia have suffered in the early 20th century, massacred, expatriated, refugees all over the world.
why the young turk channel allowed to exist...
@@jessicalacasse6205 Jesus...what can one say
Genocide of Greeks and Assyrians in the ottoman empire during the same time as the Armenian one. I'm guessing since the Armenian genocide is denied the Greek and Assyrian one is too?
@@davidmccarroll2280 100% correct except Greek and Assyrian get even less recognition or mention in any text besides Greek texts or Assyrian ones
@@thebalkanhistorian.3205 Remember Armenians fought for 100 years for the recognition. It’s still denied by Turkey. It started with the operation Nemesis. But as an Armenian I include the Greeks and Assyrians when I comment about the genocide.
As an Armenian, you nailed it perfectly once again. Thank you so much.
Any massacre is horrible. I could genuinely feel Simon's anger at the end.
There needs be a 3 hour epic film about this. Written and casted by the decendents of those involved with Nemisis.
_Munich_ style
@@visionist7 There is a Canadian movie called " Ararat", directed by world famous director Atom Egoyan, but director had to soften many aspects of what was going on because of unprecedented pressure but Turkish government as well as local Canadian turks.
Thanks for covering this. Too many people either forget too much or never knew about certain things. its good to remember everything.
"We are, the people who were kicked out of history"
Daron Malakian
Simon's ending walkout was gold.
Totally spot on
I missed it the first go around and yeah he's not wrong.
I don't think I have ever seen Simon so mad and frustrated. Can't say I blame him though.
Yup
@@jad43701 Considering the UK are essentially saying "let's forget about the past and all be happy fun friends now" I can understand why
As an Armenian, I am grateful for you having made this video.
It saddens my heart that to this day my countrymen deny that this genocide happened.
Armenians didn’t even open their archives unlike Turkey
I applaud you. Takes greatness to recognize the historic mistakes of their own country.
This is true patriotism since it prevents blind nationalism and ancestor worshiping, which just leads to the perpetuation of hatred. To many people don’t understand that “I’m sorry what happened” doesn’t mean “I’m guilty of what happened”. On the contrary. It is the denial that makes you guilty, by becoming an accomplice to genocide. Recognising and condemning such atrocities is necessary to become vigilant against human rights violation and more importantly to prevent such things to happen again in your own nation. Recognising and condemning lets your nation grow to become better than their past. Recognize your past to build a better future for the people.
I don't think it was a genocide if both sides fought against each other in a war.
Surprisingly turkey seems to get alot of hate for genocide when it was one of the few states during its ottoman past that didn't ethnically cleanse any non muslims in its Land.
But I guess when nationalism started there was no way it wasn't going to end badly
@@maddogbasil but it was a genocide. What the Ottoman Turks did to Greeks, Armenians and Assyrians made Hitler think he could get away with the Holocaust. He used the genocides as a blueprint
@@maddogbasil Genocide can very much happen during a war. That’s what happened in Rwanda.
Wow I was quite stunned by this story. I thought I knew quite a bit about history, and have read a lot on the genocide but had never heard this story before. This was a brutal genocide which has battled to get properly recognised as such. May all the victims rest in peace knowing there was some justice in the end.
Unfortunately, until Turkey accepts the nature of what happened and ceases to demonize Armenians, the struggle continues.
Thank you for the kind words 🙏
This drama Queen talks like he has umbrella up his sss should be in science fiction
Can’t you guys tell he is lying , he has zero evidence to what he is saying , it’s regarded and staged for the ignorant , most historians knows the truth that is why they keep repeating this lie for 120 years and even Turks says “ sue
Me in international court “ they won’t because they have no evidence and lies will come out and they will be humiliated the rest of their natural lives . So like broken record keep on repeating maybe some one would believe it lol
Because it's BS
Thank you, from the bottom of my heart, for covering this. Those men who organized the assassinations are heroes in the Armenian community. Their actions were also an inspiration to the Jewish avengers of nazis as the heroic Armenian resistance of musa dagh was an inspiration for Jewish resistance in the ghettos. Thank you again Simon.
It's still absolutely extraordinary that at that time, with those meager resources, these men were able to hunt down the mass murderers through multiple nations and give the Armenians some kind of justice.
God bless the Armenian Revolutionary Federation.
Great name bro. :)
I hope you continue to cover Armenia, especially with the recent invasion by Azerbaijan
Invasion? 😂 while armenia shelled it first
Damn, everyone's after Armenia
@@salamov963 Oh?
@@salamov963 Armenia shelled your soldiers inside Armenian territory. Did you expect coffee and cake instead?
@@JatPhenshllem Not everyone. Just turks and aZeros.
My heart goes out to the Armenian people - this sick and twisted genoside was never reported in my school. Good work to the brave assassins.
That's horrible that this genocide, or any genocide happens(ed). I live in the USA, and it's pathetic how long it took to admit it was genocide. I like your angry jab at the UK. Keep educating people. Simon, you, and your writers are making a difference.
The Greeks, Melkites and Assyrians were similarily persecuted.
Anything to create a 'clean' Turkey. Clean, as in bathed in blood, clean, you understand...
Well, same color as the Turkish flag
Liars , all of you , we all know the truth .This is a biggest fantasy and a biggest lie , there wears no genocide in Ottoman Empire . Armenian Terrorists called Thansnaklar revolted when all the able Turkish man were up front lines fighting to save their country against Britain ,France , Italians . Greeks . Only old , women , children were left behind . And over 450 thousand Turkish villagers were massacred by ArManiacs. They never sue the Turks in any court of law , they know any cross examination in courts, their lies will come out , they won’t open their archives for the world historians to study. Can anyone comprehend what it takes to Kill 1.5 million people during that time ? And there were no mass graves discovered, this a lie of Armenians and politicians Christine in the west jumps into bandwagon to put Turks in defensive position . 120 years they have been repeating this lie , and numbers keep going up , first when they started was 300 thousand , even this liar says between 600 to 1.5 million , Turkish population at that time was 22 million and Armenians 1.2 million . Look it up in google LOL which is it man ?
you forgot marsian genocide and andro meda massacra made by turks :D
Yezidis, Bedouin, Druze as well
as a Turk i see justice is delivered to those murders directly responsible for the Armenian Genocide.
All were young turks secular criminals pashtas
This needs to be made into a movie. In the spirit of the film 'Munich'
The irony....Turkey accusing Israel of commiting genocide while denying their own. No wonder the Jewish people in that region decided to return to their ancestral land. The Ottoman's treatment of Armenians, slaves and non muslims were atrocious and needs to be expose.
The crazy thing is Israel allies with Turkey more than Armenians. They won’t recognize the genocide. While Palestinians have supported the recognition of the genocide
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The irony is Ottoman Turks rescued the Jews from Christian Europeans. If you don't know history, don't talk nonsense.
@@lamassly Take a hike and preach your bullshit to another place!!
@@lamasslynot all of Christian Europe was antisemitic at that time, take as an exemple the French Republic, Poland and the British empire, unlike Germany there wasn’t institutional antisemitism (let alone the fact that Hitler wasn’t a Christian). Ottomans don’t have the monopoly of tolerance, just like us they also did some massacres against Jewish populations, like in Baghdad and Barfurush (1828 and 1867). But yes overall the ottomans did have a tolerant policy towards Jews, which does not excuse their (Turkey’s) disgusting behavior towards Israel nowadays.
I wonder how the Turks would react if the roles were reversed
Already roles were reversed. You dont know anything about what happend in balkans or in Van
@@turcos4205 deserved.
@@turcos4205 +bitlis, erzurum, nowadays armenian land, caucasus etc .etc.
Video of the week. What a story. What a revenge. Armenians have my respect.
What respect? They massacred 12 000 people in Baku during March 1918, and never apologized for that.
@@darkisthenight9
Different group of Armenians mate.
But yes, I agree, that was inexcusable, and as an Armenian, you have my apologies.
@@sakogekchyan7366 they were from the same group called Armenian Revolutionary Federation that still exists.
@@darkisthenight9
Yes, but there are two things that are worth pointing out.
1. The ARF was not a united party, as much as they would like people to believe they were. Different branches of the party in different cities often disagreed on what actions the party should take. So if the Caucasian branch decided to attack Muslim villages, that doesn't mean that the branch in Paris or the branch in Erzerum would approve of these actions.
2. The ARF Did not enjoy very much popularity among the ordinary Armenian masses. So the fear that they would receive overwhelming support from the peasant population and whip them up into some kind of organized rebellion, that fear was unfounded given the relative unpopularity of the Dashnaks. Even today they aren't very popular, even among Diaspora Armenian's. In Armenia itself, most of the population can't stand them.
But yes, there were a Armenian gangs that perpetrated atrocities against Muslims. In the same way, there were Turkish and Kurdish, gangs and government officials that perpetrated genocide and ethnic cleansing on the Armenian population. I don't blame "the Turks" for the Armenian Genocide. In the same way, you shouldn't blame "the Armenians" for the massacres of ottoman Muslims and Azeris.
"Photos of soldiers posing with severed heads." Ah, I see where the Japanese got their inspiration.
Nono, that was a samurai tradition going back muuuuuuch longer.
Armenians may not have invented revenge. But they seem to have perfected it.
Huge respect for daring to say the truth, Sir. Colossal balls.
the research you did on this is outstanding and admirable, well explained and from a general point of view which is the right one. thank you for this.
I loved the "i'm done with this shit" attitude towards the end there. Also, a sad story, but a good video.
Regarding Enver's death, he was killed by an army of Bashkirs led by Hakob Melkumyan, an Armenian
@Tigran Abazyan Melkumyan led a Bashkir regiment in the bolshevik army against the basmachi
his grave is in turkey now ua-cam.com/video/iHL58IxvkGA/v-deo.html his funeral in 1996
my granma was full blooded armenian and came over to the states in like 1916 or 17 i believe, when she was a little girl. she never talked about anything with me though. so it's crazy to finally learn just how bad it was over there, and just how lucky she was to get out when she did. ty Simon and team! PS I cant believe TYT uses the name.
Regarding YTY, I began to wonder about that. I've seen a few of their videos years ago and they seemed really forward-thinking and I agreed with them, but knowing now where the name comes from is making me wonder if they know its origins or are they unaware? I was waiting to hear if the Young Turks were a good group because of the channel's name and I see it's anything but. I haven't watched any of that channel's videos in ages (I finally managed to get the algorithm to stop thinking I loved watching the news, which always has depressing stories), I don't want it to return to that.
The Turks aren't gonna like this
Good
I'm all here for it.
Truth doesn't care about anything other then it. Don't be mad at the truth be mad at the actions that made it the truth.
EDIT: Thank you! I got two great examples of both the spreading of people and how it's more the government people are angry with (though I'm sure it varies person to person).
It's BS that they won't admit it was a genocide and America refuses to. But at the same point, as an American I have a question to try and get better understanding:
The Ottoman/Turkish Empire went from southeast Europe, to Western Asia down to North Africa. Turkey is in the middle of it, but since the Ottoman Empire covered about 400,000 countries (or... like, several) until it was broken up, do people find fault mostly in the country, or the people? Like... Albania, for instance, was part of the Empire but I only hear of the Turks. Not really the country but the origin of the people. So is hatred for this horrific war crime aimed at Turkey, or the Turks from the Ottoman Empire?
I don't like turks, so...
Not only as a descendant of an Armenian Genocide survivor, but as a human I thank you for making this video. I wish for recognition, since if we tolerate, we propagate. I hope that in my lifetime I could see my homeland of Armenia come to peace with Turkey🙏
For those wondering, yes, the youtube channel "The Young Turks" does take its name from the perpetrators of this genocide.
And has a news anchor of Armenian descent presenting, Anna, who has spoken of this many times with cenk.
@@thefirm4606 cenk still refuses to acknowledge that it happened and Anna is accepted by him because she shares the same rhetoric as him regarding politics not involving the genocide
@@Chris-yy5pj nope, I’ve watch them talking about it. She said he’s the only Turk to admit it happened.
The term "Young Turk" entered into english with a different connotations that have nothing to do with the genocide.
@@waltonsmith7210 hi can you give some context behind the usage
I am a Turk born and raised in Germany and I am disgusted by the terrible terrible things that happened to the Armenian people. I am still astounded that even some of my relatives in Turkey don´t want to admit it. The semantics of if it was a genocide or not by Turkey is not surpising but nontheless disappointing. I have the feeling many people don´t understand the difference between patriotism and simple obedience and are not willing to admit the bad things because they think it would make them less patriotic. The school system in the 80/90ies Germany taught me well to do better.
The nicest and best neighbours we had growing up were an Armenian family who emigrated to the US - we still have contact and I love them dearly.
The sad thing is, if following WWI the perpetrators had been properly tried and punished, and all Turkish people made aware of what had been happening, our part of the world would look so different today, for the better. I respect Ataturk's efforts to resist Turkey being completely carved up by the Allies following WWI, but his actions, especially his efforts to cover up what happened, is why we have the problems we have today.
@@AVV_Beats It requires a certain sense of emotional maturity and wisdom which should be taught from early age on many countries are lacking to do. You should be able to see also the bad and ugly sides, be aware of it and try to do better.
The sense of exceptionalism and oh we are better than others I see in Turks, Americans, Brits and French and in so many more. It is a shame.
@@AysKuz You are a traitor. I wish you detected and banned from Turkey permanently.
@@asgdhgsfhrfgfd1170 I know that the recognition of the genocide took so long but not the other stuff you are telling. So deeply disappointing. One would think being aware of the Holocaust would mean being aware of all the other horrible things too. Shameful
@@AysKuz Bunun politik bir yalan olduğunu ve 500k Türk’ün Ermeni çeteleri tarafından katledildiğini ne zaman anlayacaksınız? Almancıların har şeyi yanlış ne oy kullanın ne de yorum yapın siz.
Respect to Armenians from Orthodox Serb brothers.
🇷🇸 ❤ 🇦🇲 ✝️ ✝️ ✝️
JASENOVAC😅
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@@jomijomi2354Srešćemo se još...
You know how in Germany it’s illegal to deny the holocaust? That’s how you start a path to reconciliation. Any sort of apology while denying it was a genocide is shallow and fake. Accept what happened, take responsibility, and take steps toward atoning for the atrocities. Literally just accepting the truth of the matter is all that most people want.
Turkey NEEDS to follow in Germany’s footsteps if it expects to continue in the good graces of the civilized world.
@@FPSGamer48 Yeah, like Israel or China. You need to start living in the real world fam, the sooner the better.
My maternal Armenian grandparents witnessed the Hamidian Massacres (1894-1896), in which 200,000 Armenians perished. In 1909, they immigrated to California, and started a Fresno farm. Nearly all of their families & relatives perished in the Ottoman Armenian Genocide, burned alive in churches with locked doors.
All these chaos came from the west , they re responsible for all jeno cide going around the world, the Armenia and turks had live peacefully over hundreds years untill the western powers emerge
The Armenian Genocide is quite well-known. But I never knew of the well deserved retribution on the perpetrators until this video. This is breathtaking. I was on suspense for 17 minutes. A real life action movie. Thanks very much.
Ah don't we all love the religion of peace?
Simon,
Your content is not only informative but it’s true based on what we know of the word wisdom. Thank you Simon..
I wish you were my history professor in college..
This needs to be a movie!!!
Turks still havent recognized the genocide
Tellerian's story should be a God damn movie!!
we write it as "Tehlirian"
Thank you for talking about this. As an Armenian I was deeply shocked when found out that in some parts of Europe people have never heard of the Armenian Genocide.
And when people don't know about horrors like this they repeat themselves
Enver was also killed by an Armenian, btw.
Thank you for highlighting and explaining 🙏
The uk's response makes me feel ashamed to be British
We need to hear Sogomon’s in film. Hell do operation Nemesis and have a 12 hour miniseries…I’m game!!!
Thank you for having the balls to acknowledge the Armenian Genocide in all it gruesome, deplorable truth.
You know, if any operation deserved a movie, it's this one. Steven Speilberg made an excellent movie that I'm sure many of you know and have seen about the 1972 Munich Massacre and the aftermath. This event was similar in its goals but far grander in scale. This operation avenged the blood of innocents and brought a measure of closure to victims and justice to a long list of perpetrators. It makes me proud to be an Armenian.
Who? Whom?
We lost our lands, lost 1.5 million people.. nothing can can cure our wounds
@@mrSargi7 physically, we lost of lands. But legally, until today under international law, those territories are under occupation by Turkey and Azerbaijan. Current political will hinders justice. This is to say that political will can change just like the weather.
Never heard of this event before. It's truly disgusting in every way, but I think the worst part is how long it's taken for some to recognise it as genocide.
Thank you for telling this story and educating us all.
There’s a reason why you haven’t heard of it- it’s called lobbying
Thank you for this amazingly done video. In fact, some special forces of azerbaidjan 🇦🇿 the #1 ally of turkey 🇹🇷 hold a badge on their shoulder with a picture of enver pasha one if the Armenian genocide designers you mentioned with a quote if him saying "Don't run Armenians, you'll be dead exhausted anyways". This is happening now, 21st century.
What Genocide? Long live Turkiye. Long live Azerbaidjan 🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
Evil people... God will punish them with natural disasters like earthquakes and flooding..
@@johnconnor1583 lol. We'll see the long live very soon amk 😂
@@noway6379 we will see AMK
@@johnconnor1583 çok eshekog lu eshe ksin-sen
My great grandparents fled to Persia during the time of the genocides in order to start a new life, away from the persecution and the violence. My ancestors, my family and myself included are all grateful for your spread of knowledge about this topic. I know how a lot of people of Turkish and Azerbaijani decent will deny the facts and try to make it difficult for you, in the comment section especially. But I truly appreciate you shining light on this.
My family fled in exactly the same direction - and when the Islamic Revolution happened in Iran, they fled again. Armenians never get a break.
@@AVV_Beats Exactly. We fled Iran a decade and some after the revolution. Hopefully the States can be a permanent settlement for centuries to come. But what a story, the hardship that they have endured, and where they arrived after all that, it's fascinating.
That last sentence was very touching. I feel that's the closest we'll ever get to knowing the "real" Simon
If you want "real" Simon, try his longer form podcasts like Casual Criminalist or Decoding the Unknown. Also Brain Blaze. He does a lot of asides on those, whereas he sticks to the script here.
the real simon can be seen on many other channels where he rants and raves about how cute his kids are. there's also a journey of him going from not agreeing to capital punishment to agreeing with it (mostly because of child killers).
Oh I subscribe to all of his channels. You should see my current notification tab, it's all Simon lol
@@shatteredteethofgod Dude, this isn't the place to have a rant on that
Thanks for simply walking off in disapproval, Simon. GB needs to grow some balls for sure.
My BF is half Armenian. Her grandmother and aunts walked all the way from Armenia to France!!! Her mother was the only one born in France and was therefore the only person of her family the French government gave à gaz mask to during WW2… 😮
The stories she’s told me are plain horror.
The Armenian are a proud and defiant people and I applaud them for it. Their culture is warm and multifaceted. They take pride is being highly educated and taking part in the socio-political life of their adoptive countries. I wish them all the best, and for Turkey to recognise the horrors they committed and apologise with humility.
So great that you’re covering this. Kudos to you sir!
Nice video. No wonder why there is a quote: "Turkey does not have a history, it has a criminal record." You should make a video on the Greek Genocide too: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_genocide
Thanks for that, I'll look it up.
As an Armenian, I’m glad you finally made a video on this! Shnorhagalem (Thank you!)
Thank you for talking about this. Huge respect for covering such an important topic.
*Why there's no hollywood blockbuster based on operation Nemesis?* It would be instant classic, that story of revenge is great for movie adaptation!
I think its cool how he broke down at the end and let the UK have it. Really great video, learned a lot.
Religion of peace at its highest level
The moral of this story, is never trust a man with a dodgy mustache.
@Sludge Hitler, stallen, and now that guy. Also do you have a van..... HONEYPOT!!! HONEYPOT!!!!!!!!!
In Civ V, I immediately know that guys like...
Alex, Genghy, Monty, Shaka, Sully and the like.
Are bad news. 😤
@@joniroxanne96 noice
As a Romanian, I thank you for covering this topic and offer my full sympathies to the Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians and whoever else the Ottomans genocided.
That last bit was the most emotion I've seen in one of your videos. Well deserved imo.
It’s really a disgrace that Turkey was admitted into NATO without at the minimum the acknowledgment of the genocide, apologizing and making retributions to Armenians. They continue to try and destroy Armenia by funneling weapons to Azerbaijan.
In the meantime, today's morning started with news that Turkish PM Mustafa Destici threatened us, Armenians, their eastern neighbors, with genocide "Turkey Has the Power to Erase Armenia from History and Geography". And this is not isolated case, this is systemic policy, rhetorics, that only became more and more violent. Few months ago the Turkish foreign affairs minister showed the symbol of far right Turkish organization "gray wolfs" to Armenians in Latin American country on the day of genocide commemoration, guess what's on the todo list of "gray wolfs" (the same what Mustafa Destici said today). So many examples I can't list in a comment and this never makes your western(or eastern) nieuws, to show the present genocidal face of Turkey.
Can you imagine any German official say something remotely like this about Israel?
You should get rid of this revenge feel asap. If you want your country to be more wealthy, more powerful, etc you need to admit that Armenia can't be dependant to Russia, it must have good relations with its other neighbours. And Turkey is the most important one. Richer, stronger, gate to Europe. Greece has such problems with Turkey too but it is open to business or any other relations with Turkey so both countries enjoy it. It must be the same for Armenia too. Your diaspora in West exhausts you.
@@lamassly I’m sorry but you wrote the stupidest things I’ve ever read. First of all Armenia is not gonna have a diplomatic relationship with Turkey, because turks behave like what this commentator said plus they don’t recognise the genocide so what relationship could be between us. Also 70% of all the Armenians who live in Armenia are descendants of the genocide survivors (not even gonna talk about the diaspora). Second of all Turkey is azerbaijan’s brother nation which is in war with Armenia🤡. And lastly you’re comparing Greece to Armenia which is mind blowing considering Greece is a member of the EU, Greece is a rich country, and if Turkey was to attack Greece probably most of the countries would side with Greece. So in this scenario Turkey needs Greece more than the other way around.
Good morning Simon. As a Greek Cypriot refugee I remember lots of Armenians who settled in Cyprus after the genocide. Like many Greeks who suffered under the Ottoman yoke much alike the Armenians we were taught to despise and hate the dreaded Turk. Growing up I now count a number of Turks as good friends. However the Turkish Government and its denial.of the genocide is a very sore point.
I am not sure how many ordinary Turks know of this part of their History and to be honest to my shame now I have never discussed it with them.
Love your closing comment
This genocide pisses me off more than most. The holocaust had a cold efficiency too it and the events of Rwanda felt almost debaucherous. This is cold hard malice not committed of a misguided sense of duty or honor, but pure hate. Justified violence exists the young Turks experienced it.
i feel you have a wrong idea of the holocaust
fantastic work on this! accurate and needed. bless u for spreading the truth.
I love a story with a happy ending and this one delivered
If you would follow the news about what Turkish President, defense minister, some of their parliament members and the foreign affairs minister say not about the Turkish citizens of Armenian ethnicity that lived in ottoman empire but present Armenia and Armenians - their neighbors, you wouldn't think this story has a happy ending. E.g. today's morning started with news that Turkish PM Mustafa Destici threatened us with genocide "Turkey Has the Power to Erase Armenia from History and Geography". The Turkish foreign affairs minister showed the symbol of far right Turkish organization "gray wolfs" to Armenians in Latin American country on the day of genocide commemoration, guess what's on the todo list of "gray wolfs" (the same what Mustafa Destici said today). So many examples I can't list in a comment and this never makes your western nieuws, to show the present genocidal face of Turkey.
@@hybridbuilder ülkü ocakları and gray wolf symbol are totaly different thing which are being mixed up by europeans ülkü ocakları far right religious nationalist group but gray wolf is the national animal of turks like eagle for usa or lion for england or bear for russia
Wow..never knew about this. That's awesome!
As a Bangladeshi, hearing this feels good that those who commited this genocide didn't just get away with it.
(Come up with new insults, tired of hearing "you s*b-h*man or Sand-niqqr")
Crazy how a lot of Turkish people still deny this….
What is even crazier and horrifying from my online discussions with dozens of Turks is that many of them consider the Armenian genocide as a necessity! Something that had to be done, they truly believe that unarmed women and babies would somehow destroy their nation. They have been brainwashed for almost 100 years and they will repeat the same horrors in the future since they have no moral compass as a nation. The recent target is Greece (again), the Turkish President as well as Foreign ministers and high ranking generals have publicly declared that they will invade several Greek islands unless Greece gives in to their insane demands which are contrary to every aspect of international law. A few days ago the Turkish president also showcased a new ballistic missile which in his word will be used to bomb Athens. And the US & EU are still dealing with these psychopaths instead of treating them as they do with Putin & Kim Jong-un.
@@Ghanfort Not genocide, the deportation was a must because Turks and Armenians were killing each other and there was a World War.
The Greek islands problem is that according to the aggreements, it is certain that which islands belong to Greece and Turkey. But there are some little islands that have no owner so both sides agreed to keep them demilitarized but Greece started militarizing them.
Also just look at the map, you can see that Greek islands are very close to Turkey and Greece says that Greek borders starts from the islands next to Turkish mainland so we can't even swim in the sea :) Turkey is against it and this is normal according to the International Law. Just like England France problem.
Finally, don't care what politicians say, when the elections comes, Greek politicians shout to Turks, Turkish ones shout to Greeks to get nationalist votes :)
@@lamassly The ownership of the islands has been solved since the end of WW1 and for the remaining Dodecanese islands after WW2, there are no disputed islands.
The Turkish coast has 6 nautical miles territorial waters as do the Greek islands and the Greek mainland, as do the Turkish islands of Gökçeada & Bozcaada.
According to UNCLOS (international law) Greece (as any other country) has the right to increase its territorial waters to 12 miles, Turkey has already done this in the Black Sea but Turkey objects to the Greek expansion of territorial waters not because it is against the international law (since UNCLOS allows it) but because it would make access through the Aegean sea to the Mediterranean more challenging for the Turkish navy (military) ships since they would have to get permission to pass through. This limitation does not apply to merchant vessels according to international law.
@@Ghanfort Firstly, please check the status of the islands in these agreements. Some of them must be demilitarized but Greece deploy soldiers there. Greece has no rights to do it according to the agreements. Why does it do it?
And there are some islets not mentioned in the agreements, they are very little things but in the past it became a conflict subject.
Second, If you don't know much about Intenational Law, please check the term "persistent objector". If you are "persistent objector" to a law, article, you are not bound to that law. Turkey didn't sign any of the related international agreements. But you can only say that there is a UN law agreed by most of the countries so Turkey must be bound to it. However since Turkey is "persistent objector", it is not bound to this law signed by other countries. UNCLOS has no option of reservation system so Turkey doesn't sign it but applies it except for objected situations.
Under normal circumstances, territorial waters is 12 miles, not even 6 miles according to UNCLOS. However since the first day of the agreement, Turkey states that these territoral waters must be 6 miles far away in Aegean Sea cuz of its special status. And Greece and Turkey agreed on that. That's why UNCLOS 12 miles rule is not valid here. Because the Greek and Turkish coasts are so close to each other, for example the Greek Samos island is just next to Turkish mainland, less than 1 nautical miles away, there is a special condition for Aegean Sea. If it was 12 miles for both countries, there would be almost no open water in Aegean Sea. And if you consider even the tiny islands as mainland, then it will be impossible for Turkey to fly a plane, use any ships, make fishing, mining without Greek permission. And there will be no open water so all the planes and ships will have to get permission from Greece for each time. It is not only about Turkish navy, it is also about international usage.
You tell that Turkey objects to Greece's 12 miles because Turkish navy can't sail to its coasts without Greek permission and it is ok for UNCLOS. Does it really make sense to you? These agreements are made to sustain equity, fair use between sides. If we can't use our navy then there's a inequity here so UNCLOS is not adequate. Internatial Law is full of exceptions cuz of such problems. You can't only say that it is ok for a Convention.
There are many exceptions about this UNCLOS because in some aspects it doesn't contain details especially about enclosed, semi-enclosed seas. Also there are many examples of that islands have partial effect or even no effect on maritime boundaries if they cause a inequity. For example channel islands of UK is next to France but they don't count them as mainland.
Nowadays you're talking about "right to incrase territorial water". Just think a little, although it is normally 12 miles according to the international law, why have you been using it as 6 miles so far? If you really have right, then you should have used it since the first day of the agreements. There would be no need to increase it.
In Black Sea, the coast are so far away from each other so there's no problem, that's why it is 12 miles there.
@@lamassly The only reason that Greece did not increase to 12 miles is because when the new UNCLOS (1994) was agreed and signed by all the other nations, Turkey issued a Casus Belli (cause of war) if Greece attempted the increase of its territorial waters to 12 miles.
Also according to UNCLOS you cannot increase your territorial waters beyond the other nations coasts so for example if a Greek island is 4 miles from the Turkish coast it cannot extend to 12 miles, it will extend until it reaches the median line of the Greek & Turkish coast.
Also recently Turkey objected the increase of the Greek territorial waters east of Crete which is very far away from the Turkish coasts (318 miles).
As an Armenian I want to thank you for covering the topic of Armenian Genocide. For the Young Turks the Genocide also had economic benefits, as a lot of bankers, tradesmen, businessmen were Armenian, and by killing them, the Young Turks could appropriate the wealth. Morgenthau writes that after the massacres, Taalat Pasha even asked him to pay the life insurance payments of Armenians to the empire, as there is no next of kin to claim the payments. This is just a small fraction of the reasons of Genocide.
Cringe larp
@@papazataklaattiranimamyou are cringe
great job Simon!
Thank you for covering this again (my family is half Armenian)
The UK recently lifted the defence embargo on Turkey. What a joke!
I have no idea why we pal along with Turkey when it's being run by the insecure, rabid conservative Erdogan - that monster has to go 🙄. I love the Turks and hope they choose a better leader and then can come to terms with their bloody history.
Everyone has to suck up to Turkey because of their geographic position.
Don’t worry, us Americans recently called them out. Turkeys are pissed! 🦃
I find it incredibly hypothetical of the international community at large to have no issue condemning guards and secretaries that worked in Nazi contention camps almost 80 years ago, most of whom are now in their 90s and have been model citizens since. And continue to condemn Germany for its past sins but allow Turkey to get a pass . And are basically telling the Armenians to get over for the “greater good” of international relations. Utter cowardice all around.
That mic drop question at the end gave me chills!! Thank you for bringing recognition to this atrocity. I’m about to get my BA in history and my minor is in Holocaust and genocide studies-this is a woefully unknown genocide and the fact that most countries still don’t recognize it as a genocide despite it being nearly identical to the Holocaust is disgusting.
hahaha loved that love-letter to UK at the end of the video.
I remember my teacher telling the class about a watch she bought in a market in Turkey. The watch had a picture of Ataturk on it. However, after my friend and I informed her about the crimes committed by Ataturk and showed her pictures of the victims, she immediately got rid of the watch.
Which crimes?
@@yusufsakmuk9662to liberate the lands occupied by the Greeks
Crim N.1.Massacred and deported Armenians in Cilicia
At this moment, 🇹🇷 pet, 🇦🇿 are doing the same and 🇪🇺 says nothing because of gas
Thank You. Informative.
Thank you for covering this overlooked piece of history. Any light shed on this matter has the potential to save the lives of Armenians who are in what seems like a forever struggle to keep what little home they have left from classical antiquity. English and especially French churches were instrumental in saving my grandparents so I'm humbled again hearing your English accent. Armenia has been experiencing the same horrors since the Seljuks first entered classic Byzantium.
Hey, Erdogan are you watching this? 🇹🇷 😑 ⛓ = 🇦🇲 = ☠
Hello Simon. I really enjoyed you video covering this serious event that is still unknown by too many people and I hope it’ll help some to learn about the genocide. Though, there is one thing you didn’t cover in this video and that I found crucial: the fact that Armenians weren’t the only victims of the genocide but a bunch of other Christian communities too like Assyrians, Chaldeans, Aramaics and many more living around the border between actual Turkey, Syria and Irak.
The Greeks call what happened the Asia Minor Catastrophe. When I asked my mother to translate what my yiayia(a survivor of this) called that period she said they would just call it The destruction.
Simon's last line in this reminds of my own attitude learning about this for the first time in grade 12 history, while watching Obama pussyfoot around about releasing an official statement in an effort to appease Erdoğan. Even as an outside observer, there was always something about the particular lack of justice that stank to high heaven for me, and its somewhat relieving to know that the architects of the genocide did in fact get what was coming to them.