The Ending of Tag Der Toten is Better Than you Think
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This video breakdown the ending of Tag Der Toten where the Victis crew recovers the Argathan device, elemental shard, and Apothicon Blood to give to Primis and Ultimis to end the storyline. Samantha and Eddie are the only survivors of the aether world due the sacrifices of Nikolai and Richtofen. It is a heartbreaking ending to the series that deals with interpersonal and self-actuated problems instead of physical ones. It is an interesting way to end Call of Duty Zombies.
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Quick Summary of the story so far:
Vicits is back for the END GAME of Black Ops 4 zombies on the suspected Call of the Dead Remake map where they will confront Dr. Monty, The Shadowman, and the Apothicons one final time. This is what we have waited for all these years. The conclusion to our zombie saga.
Inside Call of Duty Black Ops 4's DLC 3 Alpha Omega Zombies Primis and Ultimis team up to recover the elemental shard. They travel to Camp Edward, a broken Arrow base, to remove the shard from inside the APD or American pyramid Device. To open the APD Primis and Ultimis must win the trust of an AI called Rushmore inside Alpha Omega.
The crew completes many tasks like reviving Peter McCain and fighting the Avagodro. Then the save Sam to start their final quest to fight Dr. Monty in the Aether or Agartha in the hopes of destroying element 115 once and for all. That is where these teasers lead into for DLC 4.
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this made me feel so much better about the ending holy crap
Right.. he makes endings better than how they are , thanks rad
Can we get one last "The Entire Zombies Storyline Explained" video? It would be nice to see it all again.
It's very pleasing to understand, that my childhood's most loved and the very fist game I've played, turned into a drama filled game. It used to be just a gameplay, now it's a great gameplay and an awesome storytelling. I can't tell that 100% understand the whole ww2 bo4 zombies storyline but still, it's an awesome game.
a game mode about surviving forever ended by our characters dying once and for all. it was a fun journey.
Agreed
The thing I love about Richthofen and Monty as characters is about how relatable they are. Even though both characters have these powers that almost rival those of a god or other invincible divine beings, they both fear one thing.
The fear of death. both of them are scared of dying and wanted a cycle in the first place so they wouldn't fear death because they would always come back no matter what happens. This is why Richthofen couldn't face the truth. He didn't have the heart nor the courage to do the right thing, The thing he told the others what he was trying to do all along. " He was trying very hard to do the right thing." But Nikolai knew the sacrifice and pain he would go through but he still did it. He did it because he knew it was the right thing to do and how he secured a better tomorrow for a world he wouldn't be able to live in, and it's heart wrenching and a scary thought. To come with grips that your death is inevitable. I’m so glad you made this video because it really shows how there is no great evil, it’s just everyone desperately fighting and m trying to hold on so they don’t have to die and be forgotten.
Thanks for everything
I just realised. The elemental shard is what binds the four characters to the universe. It was split into two pieces by Broken Arrow - which caused the paradox creating Primis and Ultimis as two different entities. It makes so much sense now.
That's super cool
The sadness in your voice makes this decade journey so worth it. Not that I love your pain but you have been with us from the beginning and I love you for that.
Thanous would be proud of Nikolai the hardest decision's in life have always required the strongest of wills.
No Reed, YOU are better than you think!
awwwww
You're breathtaking!
RADAUSTIN27 thank you for everything!
It’s crazy because of the way blood was set up we could have guessed this. Edward being so afraid to die and chasing after godhood constantly in the story could easily have been foreshadowing he was never going to be the one to break the cycle. Nikolai has suffered the most loss and tragedy through his life which makes it easier to understand why it had to be him. I’ve been around since WaW and this conclusion was very satisfying. Thank you Treyarch for years of fun and laughter.
Pretty interesting take on the ending of this map. I know it rubbed some people the wrong way, but you were able to see something more in it.
Out of everything that went wrong with Bo4 I'm surprisingly ok with the ending. It does have its problems with feeling rushed, but with how the development of zombies went this season I'm glad we at least got an ending, a bit of closure. Lex described the Aether storyline as being this convoluted, mistake ridden story where the only end is to own up to your mistakes. We've all made bad decisions in our lives and sometimes the hardest thing to do is to face the consequences of our actions. That is something I can relate to.
I've been playing this damn game since 2010 even after most of my friends moved on I still stayed. If this is how Craig wants the end for Nazi Zombies to go, then I can respect that.
Side Note: Hey Reed, is Jeb Brown actually Doc Brown from Back to the Future? If he is, that would be cool!
I do love how the last word of zombies is "Ass" pretty much sums it all up. (Love zombies)
Bet you all were not prepare for that ending! Yes, Reed, it's a *REBOOT TIME*
Yess blundell 😁
Fog rolling in
I love medieval castles
Did you tell about robot
We shall call this A New Dawn
Personally I still would've enjoyed a epic battle ending, but after watching this, I feel like the symbolism made it so much better
We could’ve had both
@@callofdutywii1 if they held off on chaos and dedicated the whole budget to Aether then I think we could have too. I like tag a lot, but it feels like it should have been DLC 3 or one half of the map and after that section of the EE we would have went to the frozen forest or Agartha to fight off Monty while the Primus/ Ultimus crew conduct their plan
My favourite part of the ending was the symbolism with Sam and Eddy walking towards the light. Nice touching moment with our characters talking about their final wishes
Saying goodbye. That's a good way to put it.
While a Great War would have been awesome, they just didn’t have the budget to do that. Honestly couldn’t have been a better ending with the budget that they had
The great war had already been fought. We were just never in it in gameplay. I can go further into detail but I am working on an online exam rn and saw a new video haha
Yeah the Great War was fought by our characters, multiple time actually, but no matter the outcome we always ended up still stuck in the cycles. That’s why our characters had to die, they couldn’t survive and break out of the cycle, only one or the other.
However I do hope in the next game we get to play the Great War as a map. Not that it would change the story, but just to experience what happens in the war as a map would be awesome.
A great war map would have been a Origins remake anyways.
Dairy -uh I think a similar vibe yeah, definitely not just a remake of origins though. The war took place in a different location and with many different enemy’s to face.
Jesus Christ Reed. This left me absolutely speechless. I found you as a zombies youtuber very late in the cycle (hah) but your take is thus far the most poignant one yet. Absolutely love your analysis, the human condition, philosophical implications, and appreciation for symbolism.
I remember agreeing with you and just fucking *groaning* that treyarch chose to use Victis as the sole playable characters. And being generally NOT a fan of bo4 zombies, I recognize treyarch had an impossible job-- to make everyone happy-- but despite my persistent negativity I am just awestruck at what a good job they did, despite* all the flaws.
Sorry everyone for the long ass post. I tried to hold out until it released on xbox but just couldnt do it. I havent seen them all but so far this is my very favorite Tag end video.
Cheers
Scott
I'm glad you liked the video. There was tons of room for improvement this season, but they did a solid job with what they had. I plan to make "thoughts on tag der toten video" to suggest some the alternate methods they could have explored that might have gathered a better reaction to the end.
This video will serve really well for people who were flabbergasted at this conclusion to realize how powerful the storytelling was.
I mean, from the very start, the only Player's goal was to last forever, to never have the zombies win and reach the max round. In a way, we as the players pushed for the exact same thing as Richtofen was; Eternal Life, or a neverending cycle of zombie waves we wanted to outlast.
And now we can say "It has been enough, you may rest." That's beautiful.
Here's a headcanon
The new universe Nikolai creates is the Chaos storyline
Like the Idea allot ! Then Chaos would be finally really interresting.
I do not hate the chaos crew , not even the story , but the story isn t that interresting until its importent for saving the Bois
@Adolf Hitler Sure they are not the BEST but what is your point? why are u telling this to me now?
@Adolf Hitler I Never said the story is not good or that the mapps are the best mapps they have ever done wiht 50% remakes
Every time I watch the ending I can’t help but be so sad for the victus crew
"The hardest choices require the strongest will"
I don't mind that they died. The excetuction was just very weak. We didn't even play as the primis crew, on THEIR final map. They died so suddenly and due to poison. It wasn't emotional. They could have had a cinematic 3D cutscene where the characters are shown accepting their fate and saying goodbye to each other, not dying bloodily in their sleep in a 2D cutscene
This was a good ending
I agree it should have been a 3d cinematic but while your playing the primis and ultimas characters are enjoying their time in a beautiful way and then died thinking of what they wanted most in their life, this is what's called a bittersweet ending, also hi exo ghost I never knew you were interested in zombies
I feel like the fact that they died in such an undignified way kind of adds to the ending. Throughout all these years they’ve been slashing and shooting all these zombies in gory bloody ways and their actions costed many peoples lives, entire dimensions even. The Ultimis crew for one were all flawed people and while Primis meant well their meddling in the fabric of space-time led to more death in other realities. They all have ocean worths of blood on their hands and yet for so long they have cheated death. It’s only fitting that their final end was enveloped by the same brutality that they bestowed on their enemies. It’s symbolic really.
I still remember playing nact with my dad as a little kid.... damn its been 10 years
Excellent video as always Reed. Kudos to you for finding some good in this ending.
But personally, some of the problems I just can’t over look
1.) Victis
First off, it should have been Primis and Ultimus for the finale there was no reason they couldn’t have done it or at the very least, together with Victis. Then in the end, Vicits gets completely shafted. You can make some argument that life’s not fair or something;but if they were all gonna die anyway would it have really been that hard for them to make Vicits appear at the campfire after the EE with the Argarthan Device in hand? Or if Treyarch were so bent on Vicits being denied that ending, why didn’t they just make Vicits the crew on Alpha Omega and make Ultimus and Primis the crew on Tag? Nothing would be lost. Vicits gets the Elemental Shard and sends it to Primis/ Ultimus then Nikolai makes some BS excuse why Victis can’t be saved then leave them. Then we get the finale with Primis and Ultimus. Done.
As an aside, Russman could have played a huge role in the Alpha Omega since he worked for Broken Arrow, Marlton was there before (and also appears in the EE), and how cool would it have been for Vicits to fight the Avogadro for their final boss since it was their first?? Full circle right there. Just a real big missed opportunity there.
2.) No Monty,shadowman,Great War, etc and other dropped storyline threads
Absolutely none of the big antagonists we’ve been building up to come to pass in this map. This whole game we’ve been building up to Monty being the antagonist we have to defeat to secure that better tomorrow to just... nothing. In the map just PRIOR to this he killed one of the most important characters: Maxis. And this map... nothing. Nikolai mentions that Monty along with everything else influenced by 115 is banished to the Dark Aether and that’s a wrap. As for the Great War, same boat! Teased and talked about and then NOTHING. The intro to Alpha Omega was ALL ABOUT this Great War! Like you said we didn’t need a super big avengers style boss fight or anything... but it’s just weird. Like they changed all their plans and rewrote everything right before development on Tag started. Also what the hell happened to the Shadowman? With Monty you can tell they couldn’t get Malcom McDowell (his voice actor) this time around to do any voice work but with the Shadowman... his voice actor is already in the game!!! (He also voices Robert McNamara) So why not do anything with him if you could already get him??
Also what was with Zombie Richtofen? Like why was he even there? Why was he even guiding Stuhlinger? He didn’t do anything!!! Nikolai was the one guiding them throughout Tag. The only reason I can think of is that Richtofen was the only one who guide them out of BOTD (as shown in the cutscene). But the minute the power is turned on in Tag, he serves no purpose. Also did he know what Nikolai’s plan was? Why else does he say “I’m sorry” to Stuhlinger?
3.) The choice Nikolai makes for the crew
The whole crew choosing to kill themselves to save the universe? I can get behind that. In fact I was expecting an “sacrifice for the greater good” ending like this for some time. But the problem is that they don’t choose to do it. Nikolai does. Now as you said in the video, he was the only one strong enough to do it, hence why he became the leader of the group after BOTD. But even then, it still feels wrong that these bad ass zombie slaying soldiers who have survived and endured sooo much went out like that. This especially hurts since we don’t play as them this map. So as players we really don’t get that proper goodbye.
Plasmabolt64 I personally believe that playing as Victus is proper given that they are putting Primis and Ultimis to rest; however I agree that the characters should have been able to choose, even if Nikolai asked after poisoning them. I find it hard to believe that the characters weren’t strong enough because in Black Ops 3 they ALL choose to kill themselves for the greater good. That’s why I am upset with that decision because we only know that Richtofen wasn’t strong enough to do it on his own. Nothing would’ve been more touching than the characters being in it together one last time. Instead Nikolai feels alone, cold, and disconnected from the group.
Well said and well done my friend. The best conclusion by the best YTer
This video needs to have more views, the content and quality of editing is seamless. This video by itself taught me more about the small interesting bits that I love about the zombies storyline (in b04) than any other. I only want one more video from this story, I want a video that explains every single little detail, tie in, story loop that Aether has brought us. All the content, the conspiracies that were settled, the speculation, and the truth in the end about everything. I think it would be amazing send off to the story if every zombies youtuber came together and talked about a piece of the story, split it up evenly so such a task would be able to be accomplished and done with the content creators we love. The zombies community has always been above and beyond, the video (or videos) of the whole entire story would be nothing short amazing.
Austin I've been watching your channel since bo1. I was just a kid when this all started. It feels. Crazy watching your videos still all this time later. Thank you for doing all this. 😊 not a lot of the explanations from other UA-cam's would sit well with me
My knee jerk reaction to this ending was that of hate. I couldn't except the fact that this was the ending they went with. But with your perspective of the ending after finishing the EE the first time, I really liked the ending message. I would be 100% behind this ending but to me, it felt rushed.
It felt like I was missing 3 to 4 maps of context and buildup to this conclusion. I also didn't like the treatment of Victis. I just hope they are brought back so they can go to the new world. I hope they learn to think for themselves, instead of taking orders from someone only to be used.
Thank you Reed for this video, but most importantly this journey
This is why I love art, when someone is devoted to their craft they will create a story that truly resonates with their initial vision, there doesnt have to be some grand battle of the century to create a finale, a true ending is one that understands the complexities and resolve of the characters
Um... What about Eddie? He’s a version of Richtofen, so does Richtofen’s soul live on?
@Redfield XIII Eddie was a separate get connected soul. In a sense, he was the physical representation of the cycle. The soul of Richthofen bound to Monty while Richthofen’s soul still technically existed elsewhere. Freeing his shackles of the house basically makes him a pure wildcard that no force could control, however Samantha, someone who’s in a very similar situation, does so. Samantha and Eddie are the only souls not bound by creation or anything, and when they exit the tunnel, they most likely become the Adam and Eve of the new world, or something akin to it.
@Christian Santamaria Nikolai still had his soul, so the other two... well they were in the key. Their souls died with its destruction. Considering Nikolai poisoned the drinks, leaving only Ultimus Richthofen left to complete the plan, both versions of Dempsey and Takeo died peacefully before the poison could even kill their bodies in their sleep. The only ones that died to the poison fully were Ultimus Nikolai and Primis Richthofen, and I surely don’t need to reiterate what happened to his Ultimus counterpart.
Regardless of what people think of this ending, it’s definitely good to have a proper conclusion to this massive story.
Let’s just hope they continue Chaos 😂
Andrew Wicks i hope so too but it’s looking highly unlikely
Nah Chaos will always try to do something new and try to outdo aether and the fans wont like it. They didn’t before
Andrew Wicks richtofen lives
😴
Bruh, chaos is not only mentioned this year, but they’re now connected to aether
*agarthan device - grants wishes*
*cold war: the aether isnt gone, just shut away*
*samantha maxis: in the aether - working for "requiem"*
This is the greatest storyline of all time! Thank you Treyarch! Thank you Reed! It's been an incredibly fun ride!
Eloquently put. Thank you. Felt the same way but, could never express it.
Its actually crazy how much work they put into blood of the dead then seeing tag der toten. The cutscenes in BOTD with the warden keeping you prisoner, Richtofen breaking out of the pod and opening the shutters. Seeing this easter egg made me think all BO5 DLC’s were going to be a massive step up but its so sad to see the budget cuts etc.
Great video Reed, I hope to see you go into story writing one day. It's also so nice to hear our characters say one line each showing how in the end they really didn't change.
That was beautiful. Legit made me tear up. But damn. Anyway. Can we get a shoutout back to "Lullaby of a Deadman" i think its a perfect way to end the finale of the greatest video game characters ever
The problem with this ending is it is a massive middle finger to Victist and Ultimis fans IMO. Those two groups got unfairly screwed both in lore and in writing. Hopefully a new story could emerge with History repeating itself with victist escaping and bring 115 to the new world by accident.
I do have a darker theory. The frozen forest is mentioned in Black Ops 3 Campaign... what if the new world is the single player of black ops and that the black Ops 3 campaign foreshadow the victist crew bringing back the Aether? Makes you think now doesn’t it?
That was great Reed! You got this 40 year old biker, ex convict having feelings. It was a good run the past 11 years. Now if they can make the Chaos storyline link up, everyone will be happy.
I ordered a poster! Can’t wait for its arrival.
You know it’s funny, I enjoyed this ending more than the Origins and Revelations ending, and I couldn’t figure out why until now. Exploring Tag Der Toten, everything is quiet, small scale, it gives you time to contemplate what you find and the mystery surrounding the map. This reminds me of classic BO1 and pre origins BO2 zombies which is my favorite in terms of story. I hated how the story turned into this epic fantasy in BO3 even if the maps looked cool and I loved some of them. But Tag to me feels like a call back to the subtle, mysterious, and simple survival objective of the world at war and black ops 1 era. I don’t think a Great War map would have been fitting to end this story since they are just gonna keep fighting the war again and again. Rather than an epic avengers type story, it ends on a deep emotional punch in the gut, and those type of stories stay with me for a long time.
Hey Reed I know you've been thinking for a while now what you're going to do since the Aether storyline is over. I know you've been told this before but just to reiterate. Most of your subscribers and supporters don't watch your videos for the gameplay or the guides. We watch and support you because we care about you as much as anyone in our dynamic of creator/consumer possibly could. Personally, I really enjoy your perspective on life, media, and most things in general. My hope is that on days you're feeling low and wondering why you continue to make content in the future that you remember the impact you have on people's lives for the better. Remember that people will give you money literally just to see your face, hear your voice, and what you have to say. Even if you decide to move on in the future. Know that none of your time here was wasted or was in vain.
I sincerely appreciate the kind message :) THank you.
Bro, I love your explanations. No one explains anything like you in my book. Thank you for being apart of this community.
This made me feel better about the ending, but they still died 😭
Thank you for using my footage Reed, this video perfectly summed up what made the ending special, and why it was the ending we needed!
Thank you reed! For everything brother! Please don’t stop doing what you do. You inspire people without knowing it, one of them being me. I talked to you when SoE first came out an you responded all day to me about every single question I had. You are an ALWAYS will be one of my favorite UA-camrs 😊
Thank you for articulating this all so well
Richtophen still won. He is Eddie, so in the end, he got the last laugh
God I really hope we focus on how victis escapes, if that’s even possible 😢
Thank you for wording this so well. This perfectly describes how i felt about the ending even the first time i saw it. I know others aren't happy with the ending but i understand why it had to end the way it did
I never believed that this end was a bad ending. It closes almost everything with a neat little bow and finally closes the lid of the soup that's been cooking since WaW.
Story wise, it's bitter sweet. But when I think about what other ways the story could've ended, I know that this isn't the ending the characters wanted, but the one they deserved. Not because they were "betrayed" but because they can finally rest.
This *is* the happy ending..
..and I'm glad it ended this way.
My soul hurts :'( relieved tho from the explanation R.I.P Aether legends Ultimis, Primis, Victis
Reed, thank you, genuinely for all the videos on zombies it’s been such an entertaining journey. And thank you for this video, nothing is more fascinating than all this crazy zombie lore. So thank you for putting the work and effort in to compiling it all into a simple explanation
idk why many people didnt like the ending. this is the way it has to end, it wasnt just richtofens body/mind that was keeping the cycle from breaking but everyone involved
Kevin Barajas ikr milo on his channel is turning everyone to hate the endind thats so stupid and all the 12 year olds follow him
@@lukaslipovsky340 im 29, havent watched anything milo has said on it, and i hate the ending. idk why you think age has anything to do with liking it or not. it was a cliche, rushed, anticlimactic ending imo. Its cool if you like it, but that doesnt mean everyone has to.
Ronnie 12 year olds are easier to manipulate thats why and yes i like the ending because its not one of those classic american happy ends and its not a marvel style one with a big war and thats why all the people hate it and thats kind of stupid
Lukas Lipovsky it didn’t have to be a war like marvel. No. What he said was it was rushed and anticlimactic. Which it was.
@@lukaslipovsky340 you make a lot of assumptions. first "classic American ending" is a pretty asinine statement that really makes no sense at all.
The ending didnt need to be an all out war....but since they have literally been teasing one for the past year its not unfair for alot of people to expect one.
The ending was just a rushed cliche imo. Self sacrifice is not a rare thing in alot of media. and this ending was really flat when it comes to self sacrifice. They had nothing to live for. if you have a golden carrot dangling in front of your face and you choice to be selfless and die to save others then thats a noble sacrifice. Having to choose between fighting zombies in hell for eternity or dying and saving the world....thats not a hard decision. in fact id say they chose the easy path in that sense.
And then you had Nikolai who poisoned all his friends. then had a little girl shoot him in the head? what sense does that make? why would you put a little girl through that sort of trauma when you could easily of just pulled the trigger yourself and got the same results.
And it also doesnt help that we didnt get a new map at all in the aether storyline. and after over a decade we end the story playing as anyone besides the four that we love.
in general everything about the aether storyline in BO4 has just been crap imo. It seems like they gave up and just wanted to get it done and over with.
The paralyzer and time bomb = artefacts of the buried underground
VR11=siberian facility group935 / ascension group (blood elder god+ elemental shard)
Its been 5 years since ive started watching zombies with Lex and JC. Ive never played a single match of zombies in my life because i didnt have the software or the hardware to run it. Yet still i carried on, watching, seeing how this once simple mode im World at war became something really grand. Ive found Reed's channel at recommendation of JC and im realy glad that i stuck with the chanel because you Reed make such magnificant content looking at the deeper meaning of all of this. While i wish i had been playing along with everyone playing the new maps, i loved spending time watching zombies youtubers making theories about the story and the minute details that in the end led to nowhere. Im really sad that its over but as you said things must come to an end. Im not the crying type but this ending got me good crying for good 10 minutes. I dont know what the future holds but lets hope it is as good as this was. Lets not forget what has led us to this, through the shit and the great times the community has pushed through and i am glad i was here to experience it. Thank you Reed for everything
To good times ahead :)
I also think it's important for people to note - It's not the end of Zombies. The end of many childhoods and the end of an emotional attachment we've had for ten/eleven years, yes. But Zombies? No. I'm very interested in the directions Chaos can go. They wouldn't set up exposition for a new storyline and characters, and end 4 maps in on and on a cliffhanger for an entire zombies mode to end. If Zombies itself were ending, it'd be in their best interest to save their budget and just wrap up the Aether storyline. Then we'd get all DLC Aether maps, and, potentially, still have 3 maps on disc connected to Aether.
I know a lot of old school Zombies players like me feel a bit disinterested in Chaos, but honestly I'm excited for how it can go. Maybe because they are original maps, but I think that Chaos versus Aether MAP wise and GAMEPLAY wise(not story) easily beats out Aether. I think IX and Ancient Evil are absolutely fantastic, I think Dead of the Night is absolutely awful, and Voyage is okay. But aside from Alpha Omega and Classified, most Aether maps in Black Ops 4 for me chalk out at a solid "Meh" across the board.
It’s not even the end for the aether storyline, if anything it’s the end of ultimis and primis. Unless every single versions of their consciousness went through with this plan, then any realities that remain would cause fractures that create a whole new multiverse.
Reed, this video didn't just change my view on the map's story - it changed my whole perspective of the entire story; what this really was about, who (or what) the main atagonist truly is. And I love it. I love that it isn't a "heroes VS bad guys" tale which can be epic but unrealistic. Zombies was grounded in reality in the beginning, but I fell off in BO3. Not because of souls, Keepers, and such, but because the whole theme seemed to change to evil VS good. And nothing in the world is pure evil. It's not black and white. And any good story has antagonists and protagonists that both have sides you can understand. This made me realise that it isn't a battle between angels and demons, but rather a tale of an element creating chaos out of greed, and everyone affected by it so what they do out of fear, not out of heroism and bad-guy-do-evil-stuff.
So if I understood correctly, the whole thing really does start in the original dimension with Group 935 and their lust for power? That's where the elemental shard was made, that's where Sam got into the Dark Aether, and all chaos slowly unfolded?
I still don’t understand one thing: Why was it Nikolai?
Specifically, during the end of Blood of the Dead Rictofen mentions that Nikolai will need his soul, not only that but that he would need it to defeat Dr.Monty.
But none of that happened?
we originally were going to get more aether maps but budget cuts stopped that
He needed his soul in order to make the decision.
I know the aether story has come to a close, but it would be nice to have just one last map in the future Treyarch game that takes place at the "start" of the cycle during the great war. It would be a map that doesn't even push the story further, rather just a retelling of the great war. Nikolai said "... even if no one cared to see." but gosh darn it we all wanted to see it first hand in game after being teased over the course of Black ops 3-4. I know I know, budgeting issues but it's a fresh start for CoD 2020 zombies, maybe a newer engine, new gameplay mechanics, generating more memory and more spawns to give the impression of a large battle, just a side story bonus map that'll go along with the base game's zombies maps launch of a chaos map and a new story's map. The Easter Egg would just end with Primis failing, but will give us insight to how they died and began anew reborn in the cycle in Origins. Maybe call the map, Genesis, but it all seems to be a far fetch at this point. A fan could only hope.
Damn reed this was the best explanation I’ve heard and I fucking love it, it was such a good ending and an emotional one too. Much love man!
Thank you for the video, Reed. I feel similarly about the end, but no one has gone over the symbolism in this much depth and I found it hard to relate to a lot of the community. Everyone is sad to see the characters go, but this end is the closure that the studio and the fans all needed and it really helps me personally connect to the characters and their plight. R.I.P. Ultimis and Primis.
Thank you for making this. I, as for MANY fans, were frustrated with the ending. This put a different perspective on things. I was hoping for the Great War as the our Big Bang of ending the Aether story but I finally understand it had to be this way. Hopefully we get Vitcis to see escape the Dark Aether after all the crap they’ve been through. It would make sense since there’s still that radio of Stu in Classified that hasn’t been answered yet. It seems really important, especially now.
I'm more curious with the disappearing wall outside Samanthas room in the matter of moments between Origins and Revelations, and now nazi Samantha compared to sweet non accent Samantha
I thought the ending was touching. It reminds a lot of us about where we might go in our lives, and how we might live our lives. Like the characters, if they didn't have to die. But at the end of the day, they got true victory, and can finally rest knowing the world is saved. At long last. They closed the loop, and it hits our feelings, and our childhoods in a good way. Rest in peace Ultimis, Primis, and Victis. Thank you.
If they had a big enough budget, they should've ended it in a way like gears of war 3 with nikolai killing monty. I like the emotional ending but it doesnt feel filling enough.
REED! Love the video (as always)! The way you synthetize this ending is really beautifull, it made me love it even more. Three side notes. First, you said Jebediah Smith instead of Brown. Second, the coordinates of the Apothicon Leviathan werent given by the reporter, but by a radio transmition from Pablo. Thats why the Ascension group goes back to Siberia with the blood, to give it to pablo so that he can build the seal of duality for them, to win the cold war (this is all in a radio). Third, would you consider making a video on the. dying dempsey cypher from Revelations with our new knowledge?
Thanks, that's right, and sure
I hope if there is a dlc 5 victis chronicles I hope its them revisiting their horrific journey through Tranzit, Die Rise and Buried within the dark aether and then ultimately escaping to the new world as Sam and Eddie did. Say what you want about Victis, but they earned their freedom.
It would be really cool to see that.
Thanks, really enjoyed this. Brings peace to all the stuff we have been through.
Genuinely don't think there is much missing from this ending. Thank you Treyarch for all the friends and countless memories
Maybe it's because I've been playing since WaW, but I came to the same conclusions when I watched the cutscene the first time. I think it was a great ending, and when the characters started saying what theyd like to do, I was a puddle of tears.
Man reed you are the goat. Not only your knowledge of the story we all now but your writing is fantastic. This video is so good
Thanks!
6:14 Smith? SMITH?!? IT’S BROWN! ALL YOUR STORY EXPLANATIONS ARE NOW INVALID AND NOW NO ONE SHOULD EVER BUY YOUR POSTERS!!!
Victis will most definitely return.. they were banished but not killed.
Thanks man very well done ,I needed that to be said like that.
Great overview of the entire story Reed!
Dlc 5 victous escapes the dark ether from the remastered maps
Thematically, having the final conflict be the characters deciding to stop trying to survive is actually *really* fitting for a mode that's all about survival, all about fighting to survive.
Reed Austin: main characters die in the frozen forest.
Me: THE FROZEN FOREST!?
"Me saluting COD Zombies as my friends and fellow slayers do the same" Rest well Zombies Crew. You earned this after so long.
Imagine same outcome but before we do it we have to kill Dr. Monty and fight in the middle of the great war with ultimate staffs and 115 playing in the background.
Could have been a cool addition
This game seemed to be a part of people's childhood so it holds a special in their heart, but I was in my early 20s when zombies came out, and it is still sad to see it end. But after 11 seasons the series finale happens. Good stuff. Feel bad for victous though, they got screwed. But they were doomed regardless. Either they lived in 2035 and eventually would die after the entire world became zombies, or when maxis destroys Earth. They never had a chance. Rictofen did try to give them a better life, but couldn't keep that promise. DLC 5 should be a victous map pack that includes the comics as maps. They deserve it
Hey Reed just got the posters in the mail
They are awesome
Thank you so much
Keep up with awesome videos
That's wonderful! Enjoy! I will
First? Hey, Reed. Thank you for showing us your interpretation of the ending. I thought it was pretty good and it could've been worse.
Its not the ending we wanted but its the ending that was NEEDED.
This ending hit me so hard. I love you treyarch🖤 I love you Reed🖤. I couldn’t have asked for a better ending. 💔💔💔
After all this, I'd love to see a proper video series retelling the story of the mode. No, not the chronological start with the Apothicons and the Keepers, but instead the journey _we_ as the players took; map-release order, all the pieces of the story coming together as it was developed.
I never got the impression from Tank, Nikolai, or Takeo that they were 'running' from anything. Richtofen, sure (although HE gets to live on through Eddie... weird...), but not the others. They were taken against their will, put through horrible experiments and torture, and were thrown into this mess as mind-wiped pawns for WaW and Bo1. The rest of their story (or that specifically of Primis) is trying to set right the universe that "they" (Richtofen) fractured. There's an argument that Nikolai was running from pain, but that's not a result of 115 or the multiverse stuff.
I dunno, I find it a bit off-putting that those who were forced to suffer were the ones who were forced to sacrifice themselves (well, when I say sacrifice, I mean 'get murdered') while the one who actually kicked off this mess out of pure greed and megalomania, who selfishly ran from death and restarted the cycle time and time again, gets to see the world restored in Eddie while the others are just left in darkness.
I know how old this is but I think I finally have a reason for why Nikolai had sam shoot him, and that is a final act of forgiveness from Sam a child who they put through so much hell, and he gave her the power to either continue this hell punishing them for all eternity or to kill them and end it all
ooo havent watched yet but i been waiting for this :)
just finished watching and wow is all i have to say you almost made me cry again xD but i'm glad i wasn't the only one who felt how u did reed just know whatever content you got coming up we'll support it
alright so lets break this down
Normal Shang=Himalayans
Eclipse Shang=Mars
in BO3 the Shang moon looks like Phobos
in Shang during the Eclipse Brock and Gary are stuck in a cycle
in black ops CotD takes place in siberia
in BO4 Tag takes place in a cycle that Pablo can not escape
in Tag you see the sun unlike in CotD
in Tag you can see mars VERY closely
so does Tag Der Toten take place on Phobos During the Eclipse? and is this why Pablo is stuck in a similar cycle to Brock and Gary?|
Does any of this matter?
probably not but who cares its fun
LOL mate you got it, good point. I was wondering why they put this mars easter egg when they've already confirmed in classified radios that shang is on the himalayas. It all makes sense now! Shang is on the himalayas but the eclipse-loop takes place in mars, so does tag. 👍👍👍👍
It is very possible Tag is on Phobos
@@Radaustin27 could you imagine if you went back in time 8 years ago fresh off of Moon and told yourself that zombies would end on CotD on the Shang Moon
P.S. kinda a disappointing thing i wanna point out
the Pareidolia audio for the Tag secret is actually from Revelations when you go to the Shang part
i know this because as i write this im playing Rev for some reason
@@D1andOnly It's the Shangri La loading music to be specific. Which you hear if you play the map on solo mode.
I love the ending of Zombies, and it has been bothering that there has been nobody talking about how terrific it really is. Nobody seems to be able to see through the surface waters into what lies beneath. Like you said that you were, I love these types of endings -- they're the ones that sit in our minds the heaviest. I agree that Victus -- and even the SoE crews have a chance to return through the Dark Aether.
Maybe the story will be about THEIR story of fighting the constant instructions given by the voices in their head. Maybe they will fight their own Great War within the Dark Aether under the banners of Monty (SoE gang who fought the Shadowman) and the Shadowman (Victus who were convinced that Monty is on the side that Edward -- the one who abandoned them -- was on)
I would personally be fine with whatever they did. Honestly, focusing on the Chaos story might be interesting because there seems to be a lot more flexibility with how they've been implementing different ancient myths. Think of it like the Rick Riordan Universe that has included Greece, Rome, Egypt, and whatever else they've included since then. Maps would no longer be binded by Aether's dark history + sci-fi that they have done for so many years
3 years later with a response, but the SoE crew was killed by the Apothicons. Since Richtofen had taken the Summoning Key and escaped leaving them with no need for Dimension 63 anymore, the Apothicons destroyed it which in turn destroyed the SoE characters.
What a dramatic ending good vid man
Nicely written Reed
Thank you!
The small details such as Shang being on mars are what make me love this mode even if I may have not enjoyed the bo4 gameplay. The subtle inclusions of details like that are beautiful
Agreed
I cried ok shut up especially when tank says no matter where I go I'll be kicking ass
Where ever I go, I'll always be watching RadAustin27!!!
Not the ending we needed, but the ending we deserved